Any chance you guys take a look at one? It's hard getting people to believe these units are real or even worth a damn, especially since they're from China, ignoring how popular NNVT tubes are. Having someone of your profile in the US/NA community would help to give it some cred
Great video, you explained the latency and distortion effects really well, I've never been able to sum it up very well but you can certainly find it annoying when using older/cheaper digital units.
Thanks! And yeah, it was why I basically never head-mounted any of the older digital units; the latency, rolling shutter and motion blur due to long exposure times make them nauseating to use when worn on the head. I'm really glad that ADNV exists now and has pretty much fixed all of those common issues in digital NV.
I just want to say that I really appreciate what you did with the video editing, to go along with the music. It’s a small thing, but I wanted to let you know that I see what you’re doing, and I like it. 👍
Very Cool! Close to Gen-2 Performance But Not Quite There Yet, Its Really Cool To See That Digital Units Have Made It This Far, Price-wise For Around $2k to $3k Personally I Would Still Get an ok Gen-3 Pvs-14 or Even A Higher End Pvs-7, But as Time Goes on I'm Sure We Will See Sub $2k or Even Sub $1k Digital Units That Can Preform as Good as Gen-2/3 Units Can. Good Review.
@@gregorteply9034 Ebay, Facebook, R/gunaccessoriesforsale, pawn shops, alibaba, Craigslist and so much more, if you are from US then getting a gen 3 tube for under 3k is super easy
You're in Europe ? You do realize that there are tubes manufacturers here too, yes, like photonis ? You can NVGs without violating ITAR. I know L3 is sexy, but you can do without it.
It seems like these digital night vision monoculars will be overtaking the analog ones within the next few years in terms of performance and price. Exciting!
Great video as usual. Thanks for spreading know-how of digital NV to the people! Do you know if there are any news on the GF31 thermal fusion binos? In your last video you mentioned that they are still in early development. I think that one of the biggest drivers for digital NV will be fusion techology combining thermal and NV.
I actually already have a GF31, I recently sent it back in to them to do a hardware refresh and now it's on the latest production-ready hardware. Already have a few shorts on my channel on the GF31 and will be doing a full review on it soon.
Absolutely fantastic review! I’m really excited to try the SE model and hopefully the P2 down the line. I love your testing and filming style. The quality on your videos is always fantastic. Did you say 18 hours with an 18650? Also, does the screen remain square with a standard j arm? I need to take notes on your testing methods and video style I love it so much. Thanks for the video!
Many thanks! Glad you enjoyed the vid! And yup, roughly 18 hours with a high capacity 18650 is the number provided by ADNV, I personally have tested mine to 5 hours with a decent 16340, which is in line with ADNV claims too. On a standard J-arm, the screen does remain correctly oriented for me on the left eye, but with the UI inverted when flipped over to the right eye.
I really don't understand why these manufacturers keep using circular eyepieces on digital units. Just square up the eyepiece so it's easier to see the the whole screen. It'll solve a lot of the issues with eye relief and distortion.
@@aetius9 Yup. Not to mention taking full advantage of the entire imaging area of the sensor instead of just a circular crop. I don't think there are any circular CMOS sensors out there; doesn't make sense to make them either since circular chips will always lead to wasted space on silicon wafers.
From a suburban location with no moon, put a 685nm long pass filter or a 12nm bandwidth hydrogen alpha imaging filter on the front and see what you can see if the nebulae and Milky Way. That’s a hard test for Gen3 and a good mark of how close digital has got.
Thanks for the review under realistic conditions. The performance looks quite good, but the external recorder would be a 'no go' for me. I would prefer internal recording on a micro SD card. And i don't understand why noise should be a problem for the recording, especially at such low resolutions. It should be no problem to record with low compression, or even uncompressed. I would prefer a good quality 50 or 25 fps recording over a crappy 100 fps.
Totally agree. Albeit I have talked with ADNV staff about this and they are working on ways to improve the recording quality of the RS2. Gonna give everyone an update if they manage to do that (hopefully through a firmware update)
Great, could you compare this model and the g14se from the same company? They have some differences such as the pixel size of the sensor, F lens and it is also €1000 cheaper, so it would be nice to see side by side how works.
Thank you for keeping me from buying the Opsin. I have extensive experience with analog and have a few cheap IR units. I was planning on getting a pinnacle gen 3 unit, but I'll save a few grand with this.
wait....... norinco? i have a norinco t-54 9mm pistol with several thousands of rounds from me in it pluss however many previously shot before me. very interesting...
Yup! The GS610A is their foray into the civilian night vision market. Awesome WFOV optics but unfortunately they put the lowest spec tubes made by NNVT into them.
(Im putting this comment here cause you are more likely to see it on a more recent video. Talking about the Gas mask filter video you did a while ago) Hello im not sure if you will see this but is there a reliable seller on ali express/another website that you order these filters from? I have a GP5 and would rather just get these filters if they work. Im mainly using it when shooting suppressed to get less carbon crap/lead fumes inhaled. As long as they engage the GP-5 O-ring and are from a good source I would appreciate knowing exactly who and where to buy them.
@@loganwykstra7922 Basically any A2P3 filter you can find on there will do, especially those for the TF1. They are typically labelled like Z-A-P3-2. You will also find the FMJ series NBC filters on there, make sure they actually have a P3 section as there's a civilian vapor-only version of the filter. Hope this helps.
I am extremely excited about this company. The clip on thermal devices are trash compared to this company's fusion device. I have a lot of experience with analog night vision, and I haven't been this excited about a piece of equipment in over a decade. If this company's fusion device works as well as I suspect it to, then I will be encouraging a lot of people to buy this company's products.
I want a decent digital unit for urban trails with higher lighting i have gen 3 nvg both white and green which work great in rural areas with no lighting but im afraid to use them around higher lighting conditions
If the objective lens of your unit is threaded (it almost certainly is) I recommend picking up a camera iris. No need to use a fancy one marketed for NVGs, a regular thread on camera iris will work for less than 30 bucks. It protects the tube just as well as a pinhole cap with the iris closed all the way, but for medium light conditions like you described you open it somewhere between pinhole and full open. Super helpful for dealing with car headlights, streetlights, your buddy with a 10.3 autogating your tube with flash, etc.
They said they're working on a battery pack for the G14/GF20/GF31 series that hooks up to the aviation connector and can send power, record the video signal and send GPS/BDS positioning overlay data to the unit. But nothing 100% confirmed as of now
@hypemilitaria6447 huh, so the current release model of the P2 already supports power input? I was actually hoping to splice my own connector to use an FMA PVS31 battery pack or similar, but from what I got from ADNV it wasn't yet a feature implemented. E: I guess the GF31 and GF20 already use the external battery pack, but those aren't fully released as of yet
Can the Yunnan, Norinco, Gen 2+ monoculars with PVS-14-ish housings, and this gen3 digital NV monocular be imported and bought through aliepress to the USA?
….. well they are controlled items just not when it comes to importation. American made NV is ITAR controlled which means no exporting them. Some of the really high end, cutting edge units are not even available on the US civilian market, the government doesn’t want it getting into our enemies hands. Nv is the only super power you can buy. IR lasers are the most restricted in the US because of… you’ll lol… the FDA. We are restricted from being able to purchase full power lasers because we might hurt ourselves cause there’s plenty of dumbasses that will shine it in their own or someone else’s eyes. That said there is plenty of grey market stuff you can get. You can also purchase used military IR stuff, however a lot of it is likely stolen and you won’t get any support from the manufacturer. Whew! that got long quick.
Hey HYPE, hows the P2 compare to the original? So far I can only get the P2 at what seems like excessive prices from their Alibaba store. Their email correspondence seems pretty spotty too
The P2 has slightly better performance due to the faster f/1.05 objective lens, but the real benefit is the new aspherical eyepiece, which makes the P2 much nicer to look through compared to the original G14P.
@@dalewoods7308 in the US, land of spare contract tubes maybe. But outside of that, the mark up on new tubes, even cheap NNVT ones, makes this a far more attractive option. And that's not comparing the performance of this device compared to complete units in the same price range.
@dalewoods7308 Not a good gen 3. Look at the details about the tubes. All of the civilian tubes have imperfections. The cheapest analog devices are not even close to military units. A good gen 3 tube costs around 3k just for the tube.
This should be made from a Chinese local CIS with 800x600 pixels (Brigate or Gpixel?) of 18um pitch which is huge ! Could you please compare this one to Sionyx Opsin ? But anyway saying that this digital device has Génial-3 performance is not true.
@@aesthetic8780 it doesn't have the ben-3 performance at all. One of the most important criterion is how fast you can recognize a target, since this is crucial for your survive. From this critical criterion, ALL the digital devices are far behind Gen-3 filmless devices !
The NVG30 DOES NOT STRUGGLE bro curb your shill ! If you have an NVG30 you know that statement is bullshxt. You can spend 3x the price for something that does legit offer gen 3 performance sure.. but the nvg30 is 450$ and is legit gen 2 performance. How much are they paying you to shill lol ...
No shilling here, just presenting objective test results. The NVG30 absolutely struggles when you remove all moonlight and get into low NL4 and stops seeing anything in NL5, the NVG30 you see in the video is my own unit which I've been testing for some time, and I bought all my ADNV units full price. And yes, it would be awesome if the NVG30 could perform this well but we have to accept the reality that cheap off-the-shelf sensors and solutions can only get you so far. Whether or not one can justify spending much more for the analog performance in digital form is up to oneself; me, I'd say it's worth it.
@@ironman8257 Not really true bro... at high light levels Opsin has no lag and much better framerate and at low light levels it sees more. NVG-30 is good but don't expect good performance out of it...
Quite a great breakdown on diginods. Interesting to see the innovation, great testing methodology.
Any chance you guys take a look at one? It's hard getting people to believe these units are real or even worth a damn, especially since they're from China, ignoring how popular NNVT tubes are. Having someone of your profile in the US/NA community would help to give it some cred
Many thanks, man! Hope to see your tests on these units some day too!
Great video, you explained the latency and distortion effects really well, I've never been able to sum it up very well but you can certainly find it annoying when using older/cheaper digital units.
Thanks! And yeah, it was why I basically never head-mounted any of the older digital units; the latency, rolling shutter and motion blur due to long exposure times make them nauseating to use when worn on the head. I'm really glad that ADNV exists now and has pretty much fixed all of those common issues in digital NV.
I just want to say that I really appreciate what you did with the video editing, to go along with the music. It’s a small thing, but I wanted to let you know that I see what you’re doing, and I like it. 👍
Very Cool! Close to Gen-2 Performance But Not Quite There Yet, Its Really Cool To See That Digital Units Have Made It This Far, Price-wise For Around $2k to $3k Personally I Would Still Get an ok Gen-3 Pvs-14 or Even A Higher End Pvs-7, But as Time Goes on I'm Sure We Will See Sub $2k or Even Sub $1k Digital Units That Can Preform as Good as Gen-2/3 Units Can. Good Review.
Hi, where can I get gen 3 for under 3k please?
@@gregorteply9034 Ebay, Facebook, R/gunaccessoriesforsale, pawn shops, alibaba, Craigslist and so much more, if you are from US then getting a gen 3 tube for under 3k is super easy
Love it, I bought one a month ago, really the best option for us ITAR restricted folks
You're in Europe ? You do realize that there are tubes manufacturers here too, yes, like photonis ? You can NVGs without violating ITAR. I know L3 is sexy, but you can do without it.
Where you buy it
It seems like these digital night vision monoculars will be overtaking the analog ones within the next few years in terms of performance and price. Exciting!
awesome video all the concepts are so well explained
Thanks! Glad you liked the vid!
Great video as usual. Thanks for spreading know-how of digital NV to the people!
Do you know if there are any news on the GF31 thermal fusion binos? In your last video you mentioned that they are still in early development. I think that one of the biggest drivers for digital NV will be fusion techology combining thermal and NV.
I actually already have a GF31, I recently sent it back in to them to do a hardware refresh and now it's on the latest production-ready hardware. Already have a few shorts on my channel on the GF31 and will be doing a full review on it soon.
@@hypemilitaria6447Great news, looking forward to it!
Really good and informative video Hype, thank you for doing what you do, can't wait to receive mine in August 👍
Hope you enjoy it!
Absolutely fantastic review! I’m really excited to try the SE model and hopefully the P2 down the line. I love your testing and filming style. The quality on your videos is always fantastic. Did you say 18 hours with an 18650? Also, does the screen remain square with a standard j arm? I need to take notes on your testing methods and video style I love it so much. Thanks for the video!
Many thanks! Glad you enjoyed the vid! And yup, roughly 18 hours with a high capacity 18650 is the number provided by ADNV, I personally have tested mine to 5 hours with a decent 16340, which is in line with ADNV claims too. On a standard J-arm, the screen does remain correctly oriented for me on the left eye, but with the UI inverted when flipped over to the right eye.
I really don't understand why these manufacturers keep using circular eyepieces on digital units. Just square up the eyepiece so it's easier to see the the whole screen. It'll solve a lot of the issues with eye relief and distortion.
@@aetius9 Yup. Not to mention taking full advantage of the entire imaging area of the sensor instead of just a circular crop. I don't think there are any circular CMOS sensors out there; doesn't make sense to make them either since circular chips will always lead to wasted space on silicon wafers.
From a suburban location with no moon, put a 685nm long pass filter or a 12nm bandwidth hydrogen alpha imaging filter on the front and see what you can see if the nebulae and Milky Way. That’s a hard test for Gen3 and a good mark of how close digital has got.
It’s about fucking time I could buy one fuck!!!!!!! been waiting since after the NVG 30 got released
Haha same. I've been waiting for a good digital ever since I nearly got my Omni VIII blemmed
shame about the video on the G14P2 in low light
are there any digital NV devices you would recommend for video recording the night sky?
It's Gen 2 at best, but this stuff is probably the future with how touchy anolog tubes are.
Thanks for the review under realistic conditions. The performance looks quite good, but the external recorder would be a 'no go' for me. I would prefer internal recording on a micro SD card. And i don't understand why noise should be a problem for the recording, especially at such low resolutions. It should be no problem to record with low compression, or even uncompressed. I would prefer a good quality 50 or 25 fps recording over a crappy 100 fps.
Totally agree. Albeit I have talked with ADNV staff about this and they are working on ways to improve the recording quality of the RS2. Gonna give everyone an update if they manage to do that (hopefully through a firmware update)
Great, could you compare this model and the g14se from the same company? They have some differences such as the pixel size of the sensor, F lens and it is also €1000 cheaper, so it would be nice to see side by side how works.
Good idea! I'll try to get my hands on a G14SE
Thank you for keeping me from buying the Opsin. I have extensive experience with analog and have a few cheap IR units. I was planning on getting a pinnacle gen 3 unit, but I'll save a few grand with this.
Brilliant review! Excellent video! Thanks for sharing!
Great video. Even tho digitals came pretty far they just can't beat the cool factor of P43 :)
Very true! Nothing beats that soothing warm green glow.
Nice!
wait....... norinco? i have a norinco t-54 9mm pistol with several thousands of rounds from me in it pluss however many previously shot before me. very interesting...
Yup! The GS610A is their foray into the civilian night vision market. Awesome WFOV optics but unfortunately they put the lowest spec tubes made by NNVT into them.
Can we get a side by side comparison between this and the SiOnyx Opsin? PLEASE! 👍
Urban Survivor just compared the cheaper ADNV-G14SE to the SiOnyx Opsin in his Digital NV tier list video, defo recommend giving that video a watch
(Im putting this comment here cause you are more likely to see it on a more recent video. Talking about the Gas mask filter video you did a while ago)
Hello im not sure if you will see this but is there a reliable seller on ali express/another website that you order these filters from? I have a GP5 and would rather just get these filters if they work. Im mainly using it when shooting suppressed to get less carbon crap/lead fumes inhaled. As long as they engage the GP-5 O-ring and are from a good source I would appreciate knowing exactly who and where to buy them.
@@loganwykstra7922 Basically any A2P3 filter you can find on there will do, especially those for the TF1. They are typically labelled like Z-A-P3-2. You will also find the FMJ series NBC filters on there, make sure they actually have a P3 section as there's a civilian vapor-only version of the filter. Hope this helps.
Any chance of seeing a comparison with the Sionyx Opsin?
Great comparison.
I hope they will fix the video recording and create a binocular with the same tech.
I was sold the second I saw it was gas mask compatible
I am extremely excited about this company. The clip on thermal devices are trash compared to this company's fusion device. I have a lot of experience with analog night vision, and I haven't been this excited about a piece of equipment in over a decade. If this company's fusion device works as well as I suspect it to, then I will be encouraging a lot of people to buy this company's products.
I want a decent digital unit for urban trails with higher lighting i have gen 3 nvg both white and green which work great in rural areas with no lighting but im afraid to use them around higher lighting conditions
If the objective lens of your unit is threaded (it almost certainly is) I recommend picking up a camera iris. No need to use a fancy one marketed for NVGs, a regular thread on camera iris will work for less than 30 bucks. It protects the tube just as well as a pinhole cap with the iris closed all the way, but for medium light conditions like you described you open it somewhere between pinhole and full open. Super helpful for dealing with car headlights, streetlights, your buddy with a 10.3 autogating your tube with flash, etc.
I pray to the lawd that one day i will havea job and be able to afford one of these yewnits
Nice video
Thanks!
When i think about Digital NVGs i think about the IR illumination that brightens you up like a fuckin star 😂😂
And i don't particularly like that
There is no IR illumination here.
It's definitely interesting but I'm not spending a dime on a Chinese product that cost the same as an American pvs14
Damn, apparently there won't be external battery support for the G14P2. Did ADNV talk about adding that feature in the future?
They said they're working on a battery pack for the G14/GF20/GF31 series that hooks up to the aviation connector and can send power, record the video signal and send GPS/BDS positioning overlay data to the unit. But nothing 100% confirmed as of now
@hypemilitaria6447 huh, so the current release model of the P2 already supports power input? I was actually hoping to splice my own connector to use an FMA PVS31 battery pack or similar, but from what I got from ADNV it wasn't yet a feature implemented.
E: I guess the GF31 and GF20 already use the external battery pack, but those aren't fully released as of yet
Can the Yunnan, Norinco, Gen 2+ monoculars with PVS-14-ish housings, and this gen3 digital NV monocular be imported and bought through aliepress to the USA?
No bro of course not
Yup! ADNV now has a Alibaba store where you can buy the unit. There's also now a US retailer stocking it: GoodNiteGear
@@hypemilitaria6447 goodnitegear prices are kinda expensive. How much RMB did you buy your unit for?
@@zokhrozzWoomzy night vision devices aren't a controlled item
….. well they are controlled items just not when it comes to importation. American made NV is ITAR controlled which means no exporting them. Some of the really high end, cutting edge units are not even available on the US civilian market, the government doesn’t want it getting into our enemies hands. Nv is the only super power you can buy.
IR lasers are the most restricted in the US because of… you’ll lol… the FDA. We are restricted from being able to purchase full power lasers because we might hurt ourselves cause there’s plenty of dumbasses that will shine it in their own or someone else’s eyes. That said there is plenty of grey market stuff you can get. You can also purchase used military IR stuff, however a lot of it is likely stolen and you won’t get any support from the manufacturer.
Whew! that got long quick.
800x600 resolution sensor? Finally someone got it right and sacrificed unnecessary resolution for the raw low light performance.
Who did say about sensor resolution ? This is about screen resolution.
@@katsapopidar0:37 lol
@@katsapopidar Also your profile picture sucks ballZ
Nice, also:
Do you still sell GOST gas mask filters?
Can get them for you. Got a discord? Let's hook up there.
@@hypemilitaria6447Yeah I have discord, but how can I add you?
wwouaouwww the prize ... €2.752,95 EUR i can take 5 Binock NVG30 oO'
isnot for me.
Hey HYPE, hows the P2 compare to the original? So far I can only get the P2 at what seems like excessive prices from their Alibaba store. Their email correspondence seems pretty spotty too
The P2 has slightly better performance due to the faster f/1.05 objective lens, but the real benefit is the new aspherical eyepiece, which makes the P2 much nicer to look through compared to the original G14P.
For 3k? Yea I’m just buying a gen 3 pvs14.
Where'd you get the 3K price tag? Goodnitegear? The actual manufacturer sells it for 2.2-2.3K USD
@han6211 that is still expensive when you can get the real version close to the same price
@@dalewoods7308 in the US, land of spare contract tubes maybe. But outside of that, the mark up on new tubes, even cheap NNVT ones, makes this a far more attractive option. And that's not comparing the performance of this device compared to complete units in the same price range.
@dalewoods7308 Not a good gen 3. Look at the details about the tubes. All of the civilian tubes have imperfections. The cheapest analog devices are not even close to military units. A good gen 3 tube costs around 3k just for the tube.
This should be made from a Chinese local CIS with 800x600 pixels (Brigate or Gpixel?) of 18um pitch which is huge ! Could you please compare this one to Sionyx Opsin ? But anyway saying that this digital device has Génial-3 performance is not true.
It has gen3 low light Performance. But youre right. Overall Performance is worse than gen2+ & gen3.
@@aesthetic8780 it doesn't have the ben-3 performance at all. One of the most important criterion is how fast you can recognize a target, since this is crucial for your survive. From this critical criterion, ALL the digital devices are far behind Gen-3 filmless devices !
Yup. The CMOS and ASICs in the unit are fabbed locally in China by ADNV's parent company.
Interesting. Have you tested side-by-side and somehow found detection performance lacking?
digital night vision is supposed to deliver value. hard to deliver it when its in the analog pvs 2+, 3 price range. Would be competitive at $500.
the background music gave me cancer...
besides that, the G14P2 seems interesting.
I feel sorry for the dogs and cats of the world now that they have this technology.
so its basically not that great is it. im very unimpressed.
yup it isn't worth the money. just save another 2 grand for gen 3 binos.
I mean,I’m impressed for digital nods but the price is crazy..you can get a good used gen 3 PVS14 for less..ijs
The music is annoying AF.
How can I add you on discord, because of the gas mask filters
The NVG30 DOES NOT STRUGGLE bro curb your shill ! If you have an NVG30 you know that statement is bullshxt. You can spend 3x the price for something that does legit offer gen 3 performance sure.. but the nvg30 is 450$ and is legit gen 2 performance. How much are they paying you to shill lol ...
No shilling here, just presenting objective test results. The NVG30 absolutely struggles when you remove all moonlight and get into low NL4 and stops seeing anything in NL5, the NVG30 you see in the video is my own unit which I've been testing for some time, and I bought all my ADNV units full price. And yes, it would be awesome if the NVG30 could perform this well but we have to accept the reality that cheap off-the-shelf sensors and solutions can only get you so far. Whether or not one can justify spending much more for the analog performance in digital form is up to oneself; me, I'd say it's worth it.
You're coping. NVG-30 isn't revolutionary. It doesn't even outperform Opsin which is considered to be toe to toe with old Gen 2 devices.
the adnv gp 14 does nothing for value like the sionyx. especially in the price range of thousands of dollars.
@@DjAlonDevil i dont have any devices but nvg 30 is not by much worse then opsin BUT is 4 times cheaper. Easy to make a decision.
@@ironman8257 Not really true bro... at high light levels Opsin has no lag and much better framerate and at low light levels it sees more. NVG-30 is good but don't expect good performance out of it...
i cant get past your presentation man this is so weird