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Mehano Camelback Mogul Unboxing & Review
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- Опубліковано 19 сер 2024
- My review of the very interesting Mehano Baltimore & Ohio American mogul Camelback!
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A note to those who are wondering "Why would anyone design a locomotive like that?" It's wooten firebox burned anthracite tailings or "culm". This is the waste from anthracite coal mining. It was like getting free fuel because it could not be sold otherwise. The huge firebox was required because the tailings didn't burn very hot. In turn, the size of the firebox forced the engineer's cabin forward while leaving the fireman to fend for himself in the rear. They were quite a common design on the northeastern US anthracite railroads.They were later outlawed for the reasons Sam outlines in the video.
Thanks very much for this Andrew, that explains a lot about why they looked the way they did! :D
Cheers mate,
Sam :)
Yeah the firebox was too big so the driver had to have a further forward cab.
I think the details you called "condensing equipment" are the compressors for the air brakes.
That looks like a really interesting locomotive, and a very detailed model (despite the inaccurate livery).
Yeah two sets of Westinghouse compressors.
Ahh you might be right John - I'm definitely a novice when it comes to these things!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@@SamsTrains It is called a Cross Compound Air Pump as opposed to the Single Air Pump
The LB&SCR E2 was the odd one out seeing as it was a real livery. But, if it had extended side tanks, that would be inaccurate because that livery was only applied to non-extended side tank variants. The extended side tank variants were painted in a black livery with red lining. Great work Sam and keep it up!
It was indeed - very well spotted mate!! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Camel Backs are one of the most interesting pieces of American Railroading history. They were extremely popular with East Coast railroads in the late 1890s and early 1900s. The opposite was true on the West Coast, Only one existed and operated on a West Coast system and that was Southern Pacific #2282. She was a 4-6-0 and the SP Called Camel Backs "Mother Hubbard's". Great Video Sam!
They certainly are fascinating - I've not read much on them, but what I have was very interesting indeed!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
My first locomotive is a Custom painted G.N. 0-4-0.
I really love the build quality of the Mantua Mikado, Pacific, & Original Switcher but, they're generic locomotives.
I really wish they could of USRA prototypes those were very common on multiple American railroads.
Ahh very awesome! Yeah I've heard great things about them too - I'd love to try them!! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@@SamsTrains Maybe you could get a kit of one. Note these kits are from the 70's and 80's.
I never really understood the design of this engine i knew it had to have problems. But over all good looking engine!!! Great video once again Sam!!!
haha me neither - it's definitely a very strange idea, lol! ;D
Glad you liked it mate,
Sam :)
These locomotives were made to burn very low-quality coal that's why the firebox is huge
Very nice model
Ahh duly noted! I bet they produced a lot of noxious smoke ;)
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@@SamsTrains Actually, counter-intuitively, the anthracite culm these locomotives burned did not produce as much smoke and soot as regular soft coal. The Delaware, Lackawanna and Western (DL&W) Railroad used this fact to their advantage in their marketing, with the creation of "Pheobe Snow," with the slogan: "My gown stays white
from morn 'til night upon the Road of Anthracite."
@@ryano.5149 this ☝
Wooten fireboxes were designed to aid in burning anthricite like the cnj, reading, etc. So actually the wooten fire box was for burning higher quality coal.
@@aarondivel1752 Culm = "Waste from anthracite coal mines, consisting of fine coal, coal dust, and dirt."
The railroads let the higher grades of coal to go to the railroad's customers. This ultimately saved the railroads money. So, to sum it up, it's actually a low grade of a high quality coal that these locomotives burned.
@@ryano.5149 ok man. If you say so.
I initially read this as a mechano! Very nice American model and it really is unique with that cab in the middle. I’m going to research this locomotive a bit more. A great review and video as always Sam, Clint
haha it'd be very different if it was mechano, lol! Definitely worth looking them up - they were interesting things!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
AMAZING SAM IVE NEVER SEEN THIS TRAIN BEFORE BUT NOW I HAVE. You should get the intercity 125 for a suggestion
I think he has 3 older Hornby 125s
THAT'S AWESOME - GLAD TO HAVE SHOWN YOU SOMETHING NEW! Yeah I do have three older HSTs that I've shown! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
It is also important to note that there were camel locos and camelback locos. These are two completely different locomotives. Camelback locomotives had their cabs mounted astride the boiler to accommodate the wooten firebox. Camels had their cabs mounted atop the boiler to put more weight on drivers.
That's very cool Andrew, I didn't know that - I'll have to look into the Camel locos too then! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@@SamsTrains There's one at the B&O museum in Maryland. It' s a mid nineteenth century loco.
I believe, and I could be wrong, but I think the piece at 8:46 is the brake pump. It was a steam cylinder that created air pressure for the air brakes, which remember, on American trains we use positive air pressure not vacuum.
Hey, I think you're right - quite a few people have said so too - duly noted!!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Really late to this video, but I thought I'd mention, I have history with camelbacks!
I worked on an oyster schooner in New Jersey, and back in the 20s, New Jersey was the oyster capital of the world. This coincided with the time where P. R. R. and C. R. R.of N. J. was using camelbacks extensively for freight. All pictures of the railways used in NJ oystering were run by camelbacks.
All this to say, I wanted to model the Maurice River during oystering season, but I couldn't find any camelbacks in HO. The only results I got were extremely rare and expensive brass models. Until I found one of these. Now I see them everywhere 😂
Let's just say, I have a fondness
My understanding is that the Camelback was also used as pushers for passenger coaches crossing the Pennsylvania mountains.
Ahh really?? Yeah I can imagine them taking duties like that!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Great vid and nice review of a Camelback loco. They were used here in the US mostly on East Coast lines and burned low quality coal. Love ur channel and as I have said my grandson loves your Thomas and Friends vids. Thank you Sam
Thanks very much mate - glad you liked it! Yeah I've heard about this low quality coal - I bet they were messy! Tell your grandson hello - really glad he likes the Thomas videos! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
It looks like a 1630 lionel with more elaborate detailing and libery. I love the look of it and from being in pennsylvania and near coal country i can understand the need for such a large firebox. My grandfather told me about these and that there was a brass speaking tube between the cabs and that they mainly relied on whistle signals. These locomotives would be used to haul coal from the mines to the distribution yard. I was told that the fireman would be seen shoveling the tailings into the tender during stops. They had to be careful they were not getting shale or lime stone in the tailings.
Ooh are the Lionel ones more basic then?? That's brill, thanks a lot for all the info!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
I really like how unusual of the model is and the price is great.
Were it the kind of railway I want to model, I'd definitely buy it.
Thanks a lot mate - so do I!! Keep an eye on Ebay, you may be able to find one! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Hey, Sam, those things on the side of the smokebox you thought were condensing units are actually steam powered air compressors used to produce air pressure for the brake system, as American locos use air brakes rather than vacuum brakes. We call them Westinghouse Units, because Westinghouse Air Brake Company, or WABCO, made them for many years, in addition to making horns and whistles for diesel and electric locomotives when they hit the scene. Hope this information helps!
~Mike
Hey Mike, thanks very much for this - duly noted!! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Great review Sam. They do look very unusual, dont they! Also, there is a programme on Channel 5 about the North Yorkshire Moors Railway at 8 o'clock. It is a quite good programme and i wondered wether you had seen it. Well done,
-Dylan
Thanks a lot Dylan, they do indeed! Oh yeah I've seen bits of that - It is very good! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Finally got my hands on one of these at a train show today, though mine's in the classic black and silver livery. Runs like an absolute dream. Has to be my favorite American loco design, second only to the original Camelbacks from the 1850s.
B&O created the camelback and later mother hubbard (this type) in their shops in 1848 through the century.
Likely why Mehano and other model companies made B&O camelback models in various arrangements.
This paint livery looks to be inspired by the B&O museum's #305. Same color scheme, lettering fonts, wheel spoke paint job.
305 is an earlier loco with a massive overboiler cab and 4-3-0 if i recall
I live in Baltimore, so the Baltimore and Ohio is and always has been my favorite railroad. The B&O goes back to the very beginning of American Railroading in the 1820s. And the B&O had Camelbacks - roughly tween 1890 - 1930. They pulled passenger trains and freight. I have a collection of photos of them, including one that looks like this one, so I'm not sure saying the livery is not accurate is correct. The only thing I would say is that it would probably have been painted blue and not maroon. One of the premier B&O Passenger Trains- the ROYAL BLUE - was pulled by a Camelback (check Wiki for a photo) at the turn of the previous century, and they were done up nice. Prior to 1910 the railroads often painted locos in vibrant livery, including the spokes on the drivers. There are period cars for this engine- both passenger and freight- by Athearn, Roundhouse and Mantua. I have a "Train Garden" which models 1910. I have this engine and I love it. I have it pulling period passenger cars.
Thanks a lot for sharing - I love B&O stuff too, particularly the old stuff! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Excellent review of the Camelback mogul Sam 👍😉
I do like to see non British locomotives on your reviews as something different.
I think in today heath & safety that these Camelback locos could be a little dangerous to operate these days, I’m not sure if any of them been preserved in a railroad museum as not that I know of.
I watched a VHS video of the Pennsylvania Railroad which takes place during the 1950s and it showed a Camelback locomotive in action, it was unusual but interesting looking engine during my childhood back in the late 1990s.
I hope you will get the Hornby Union Pacific Big Boy 4014 one day and I look forward for to that as it is one my favorite USA locomotives.
I like to see in your next review of showing a LMS loco which is a tender with six wheels & British roller stock like rail truck wagons & SE&CR bird cage coach.
Thanks very much Joe - yeah I enjoy doing these American locos for a change! I have been looking into the big boy - it is very tempting!!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Great review. If you think this is an unusual locomotive, you should review a model of the Southern Pacific 4-8-8-2 cab forward. AHM/Rivarossi made a model of it before.
I have seen this style engine in the British Columbia Rail Museum, but it did not have the cover for the fireman. There are so many strange looking locos in the North American market. Thanks for sharing and Happy Modelling! Hans ...
Ahh really?? Yeah I've seen loads of really strange looking engines in photos - fascinating really!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Great Video Sam And I Just Watched Your Bachmann James Unboxing Review And It Was Pretty Cool And I Decided To Watch It With My Trackmaster James And We Enjoyed The Video
haha that's awesome - James not too annoyed at seeing another James existing then?!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
The B&O did have a similar type of locomotive called a "Camel" which had slimmer boilers and the cab sits on top, there's 2 of those left.
Ooh really?? I'll have to look those up, thanks for that!! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
This is a great review! I actually bought this model back when I was a kid at my local hobby shop for about $75 when it retailed for $90. (it may or may not have actually retailed for that much, thats just what the price tag on the box says) Mine says it was made by IHC though. Maybe a sister company? She is great though and I love it probably the most dearly of all my old locos.
Thank you! Ooh that's awesome - I think the two companies are linked yeah!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Hi Sam the odd one out is lbsc loco
And the trainset is the Anglian
I am saving up for a hornby duchess class
Very well spotted Lewis, absolutely right!! :D
That's awesome - they are great models!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
I'm glad that Mehano is making affordable trains. When I was young, the high price of the Märklin trains, the only brand I could buy because of the 3 rail AC system I had, made me realize I just couldn't afford the hobby I loved, which frustrated and saddened me and caused me to drop the hobby for some 30 years.
Even today I almost exclusively buy second hand and now have serious plans to drop the 3 rail system altogether because of incompatibility and Märklin's crazy prices (up to € 800 for a four-car DMU)
Me too - it's lovely to get nice affordable engines for a change!! The high prices can indeed be very off-putting :(
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
I find really like American locos I do really like this . I would not have the local I would just have the box really good video Sam nice to see a change and still steam
That's great to hear mate - I really do too actually! Glad you liked it for a change!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
The livery is real. It has a proper B&O livery
Yes it's a real livery, but it's unsuitable for this loco, making it fictional (or so I'm told!)
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
It most assuredly is entirely unsuitable for this locomotive.
I brought a little N-gauge American set when I was in Atlanta :) It’s a Norfolk and Southern set which is accurate to the region :) I’ll be setting it up on a board in the next couple of weeks
Sounds great Richard - sounds like a miracle that you've found something accurate, haha! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Sam today I went on the flying Scotsman and it was super thanks fo the video,
Sam
That's amazing Sam - hope you had a really great time!! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Great vid. It demonstrates what's possible for a low price and that message needs to be heard. I bet that high prices chase many people out of the model shops, as it did to me when I was a kid.
Absolutely - I do love these lower-priced engines!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
...If I remember correctly (correction is welcome), Camelbacks had an excessive coal capacity as compared to typical american steam locomotives, seeing as they were built to satisfy a demand for an engine that could handle low-grade coal. The limiting fuel would not work in conventional fireboxes (comparable to a camp fire), seeing as it failed to produce enough heat, hence the need for a bigger firebox (comparable to a bonfire). And so, the increased demand of fuel required and increased coal capacity...
You may be right Nathan, that certainly sounds reasonable! Thanks a lot for sharing!
Cheers,
Sam :)
I have this exact Mehano loco but in a Pennsylvania 181 livery, i love it because its different
I love a Camelback. You should find a cab forward loco and a shay loco. They're so crazy looking!! I'd also recommend the hinged locos like a Big Boy, they have 2 sets of multiple driving wheels (so do the shays). American tank locos arent common (to my knowledge) so if u could find some more, ud b happy. I'm early in the video, so idk if uve yet 2 get any, but I really recommend American passenger cars, especially the clerestory coaches because they were the most common variant, and if u do get those, you need that observation car at the end, they look so quintessential American, they're beautiful
Thanks mate! Yeah a cab forward would be amazing - they really are crazy! Thanks a lot for the suggestions - I'll look into those! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
I love camelback locomotives. I recently finished putting together a 0-4-0 camelback that was from the Baltimore and Ohio railway
Yeah me too - they're fascinating aren't they? That one sounds awesome! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
If you want boxcars and wooden caboose, look after Walthers. Search terms "wood caboose", "40' gondola" and "40' boxcar" should bring you some good items to put behind your yank steamers. I have a Walthers caboose with the offset cupola and it's an amazing little model. :)
Cool! Thanks very much for this - I'll look at those for sure! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
This model is an interesting one. It is generic by design, but it loosely resembles the U and V class Mogul Camelbacks of the New York, Ontario and Western. It would certainly make a good kitbashing project.
Thanks David - I'll have to look those ones up! :D
Happy New Year,
Sam :)
I know this is an older video, but the North American Great Northern Railway is one of my favorites. It merged into the Burlington Northern 1970. And, we also had a Southern Railway until 1982.
Glad to hear that! Thanks for the info - that does sound great! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
I know that you mostly collect British locos but I have to recommend that you pick up a model of "The General". Bachmann has a nice one. It's a very famous American loco. And not only that, but here in America I'd say about half of non-specific train designs resemble the general. Things like train shaped toy whistles & little battery powered engines you pick up at the dollar store all resemble the general. It's pretty iconic here in America, and I'd love to see you review a model of it!
Thanks for the recommendation - I'll be sure to look into 'The General'! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
That's a beautiful locomotive I have a similar one in brass I don't even run that one anymore it's it's on the Shelf it's an old one but a beautiful engine you did a nice review on the locomotive
Thanks very much mate! Ooh that's nice - I bet it looks amazing in brass!! :O
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Several years late- but, I believe the Great Northern was a Canadian railway, and the Atlantic was a type of theirs. (Although it may have been a general US/Canadian engine as the Baldwin Locomotive works built a lot of engines used on the American continent.)
But I'm pretty sure the paint scheme is Canadian.
Which means technically, this Atlantic is technically British, or more properly part of the commonwealth (whatever that means, I'm an uneducated yank when it comes to how the late stage British empire worked).
Hi Sam. Good video. I like the camelback. The "Gubbins" on the left front footplate are "Westinghouse Air Pumps". I would keep the camelback if you gave it to me and I would even buy one for the right price. It's beautiful. Regards, Alan.
Thanks a lot Alan - and thanks for letting me know what the "Gubbins" was, lol! Glad you liked it anyway - I quite enjoyed this for a change!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
America also had a Southern railway and even a Great Western railway, believe it or not.
There's a few Southern engines in preservation; one is a 2-8-2 Mikado numbered 4501 and another is a 2-8-0 numbered 630. They can be found at the Tennessee Valley Railroad Museum.
There's only one ex-Great Western steam engine left; a 2-10-0 Decapod numbered 90. It can be found in Strasburg, Pennsylvania
Yeah I've heard about those actually - it's pretty cool (and confusing!!) Thanks for sharing! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
I don't much care for American engines myself, but if given one for free I'd probably keep it, even if I'm a bit of what I'd call a "gauge purist" - meaning I don't like mixing engines who were on different track gauges. Different railways and eras I'm totally fine with however. xD
If I ever do get round to restoring my model railway, my overall plan is to modify my engines from different railways under a single livery of my own (likely a Caledonian blue) under a kind of scenario where the railway bought engines from other companies.
That's fair enough Damian! Sounds like a good plan mate - that'll be beautiful!! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
I think those Mehano locos are similar quality to Lima locos, but I still love my Lima locos
Rivarosi big boy review anyone?
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Ooh I would love that!! :D
I prefer Athearn because of the level of detail being higher and more accurate.
The Great Northern was a railroad that ran on the northernmost states here in the U.S. They ran all the way from Minnesota to Washington state through Montana, Idaho, North Dakota etc & they did have 4-4-2's Just google it if your interested in knowing more.
Cool! Thanks very much for the info mate!! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)
8:40 - that's the Westinghouse pump for the air brakes - looks like a cross-compound one as well.
Thanks for this - duly noted! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Wow that actually looks really quite nice. Also you know when you were saying that American locos are very big, well I made two videos on American locos one at worth valley railway and that was absolutely massive! And another one of a miniature version of one in 5inch gauge at the railway I work at and that was massive aswell considering that it was a fairly small gauge!
Thanks a lot mate - I think they look pretty good too! Ooh that's awesome - I'll have to check that out!! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
The E2 is technically in the original livery, even though the E2’s were in the black! Anyways great video as always! And that engine is definitely a keeper, haha
It is indeed - so that's the odd one out! Glad you liked it mate!! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Great Northern merged in 1970 with the Northern Pacific Railroad and Chicago, Burlington and Quincy Railroad (along with a few smaller lines) to form Burlington Northern, which itself merged with the Santa Fe at the end of 1996, becoming what is now BNSF Railway.
Thanks very much for sharing the info! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
The lehigh diamond express was named after “” from wiki: “Anthracite, often referred to as hard coal, is a hard, compact variety of coal that has a submetallic luster. It has the highest carbon content, the fewest impurities, and the highest energy density of all types of coal and is the highest ranking of coals.”
Thanks very much for looking into this - appreciate the info! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
I love the old look on it. It's almost similar to the train off of lone ranger movie
Me too Adrian! haha yeah it is very similar actually, lol! ;D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
hi sam id definitely keep the loco if i had one come up for sale in australia but very few and far between. was very lucky to get a hold of some more of the cheaper mehanos rebuilt those and sold them on to people still using them years on.
I have 2 and they are my favorite r-t-r engines by far…….
Such an iconic design from where I'm from! I live in New Jersey in the States and these locomotives were a staple for the Central Railroad of New Jersey (CNJ). One of these Camelback locomotives was actually preserved CNJ No. 592. The CNJ is also known for the Blue Comet which has a great history and there are a lot of great models to check out!
Great to hear that Daniel - I'd love to visit the USA again, particularly the south! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@@SamsTrains Keep up the great work Sam! As a casual enthusiast I learned so much from your videos! Fantastic content.
Great video Sam! I just picked up an IHC Mehano 4-6-0 Camelback with Erie Railroad markings at a local train show here in the states (Allentown Pennsylvania). I paid $33.00 US. It's a very nice locomotive as you described for its price. I hope to find a few more. Did you happened to check if these locomotives had any smoke ability. I did see one that was part of a set and the box it came in indicated smoke. Thanks again for a great video. Cheers mate!
From an American viewer I talk highly of the camel backs although they were a very labor intensive locomotive to run. At times requiring 2 firemen depending on grades of the route, an engineer and a brakeman in the cab which both him and the engineer could not see each other being the boiler was between them
haha yeah - they don't look fun in real life, that's for sure! I can see why they died out! ;D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
They were dual axels versions and the cans were also on top of the boiler too
Ooh cool - thanks for the info Liz! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)
The handle on the front buffer beam, is actually not a handrail. It was a lifting bar so that the coupler could be disengaged by a person standing at the side of the track
Very interesting David, I didn't know this, good stuff!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Certainly an interesting locomotive. You should check out some of today’s modern work horses from the US. The GE ES44 series are some of the best I’ve ever run, along with EMD SD70’s.
Best regards from a current freight conductor and locomotive engineer.
Thanks a lot mate - I would love to try some of those, thanks for the suggestion!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
I would absolutely keep it, its a wonderful little locomotive and the camelback design is quite cool.
If you look up “B&O R.R camelback, you’ll find their inspection locomotive in this livery. The only difference is that instead of B.&O.R.R on the cab, it’s actually the number of the engine
Ahh I see, thanks very much for the info mate!
Cheers,
Sam :)
these were known as mother hubbards .the extra wide firebox was designed to burn anthracite rough coal .this was a by product from mining
these locos were built specifically to burn anthracite coal.
Wow that is one of the best locos you have shown by design and by how it works
That's great to hear mate - really glad you liked it! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
The livery and design are in the spirit of the B&O Camelbacks. Not dead accurate
but an okay approximation. The large fireboxes were designed to burn low grade
anthracite (hard) coal.
Mantua used to produce a Mikado (2-8-2) Camelback based on a Lehigh Valley R.R.
design.
Thanks for the comment -yeah I'd agree - they're nice models for a bit of fun!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@Sam'sTrains. I am from Ohio and the livery for the B&O is navy blue, black, grey, with gold letters.
Ahh very cool - it does sound like a great looking livery actually! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
11:20 dont forget camel backs were desgined to burn the bottom of the barrel cheapest as possible coal, which is why they do have a large firebox in the first place to be able to burn that type of coal.
Yeah I've heard about this! Poor things - must have been horrible to work on!!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@@SamsTrains could be worse.
I would keep it as I do love this engine. It was a good workhorse when pulling freight back in the day. It is an unusual engine, but wonderful to look at all the same.
Awesome! I definitely would too!! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
i''d keep it cuz i have most of the whole line of Mehano's steamers except the camelback and CadNational :D.... Btw they were all basically the same price here in the states...ty for the review!
That Mantua box is a very nice one! It looks pretty similar to a lot of packaging for higher-end models here in America with a lid with a piece of foam on top of the model.
Quite a few model train companies here in America still make multiple liveries for the same loco tooling, even though it's not truly accurate.
I know!! It's probably the grandest box I've ever seen, haha! I find that really cool and strange - British companies could never do that today... and survive unharmed!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
I'd most certainly buy/keep it, Mehano locos are rather nice, here in the states they've next to never sold under their own flag though, so it's nice to know who exactly made those engine's I've loved for their consistent and smooth running for years
That's good to hear! Yeah I quite like them too - always great runners in my experience too! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
For steam engines in America, they are still called Drivers and Firemen. On diesels in America, they are called engineers
Ahh cool, thanks for confirming that mate! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
There was a 2-6-0+0-6-0 version
Ahh really?! That's very cool!! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Honestly thought this was a Chinese class of steam locomotives but this looks very nice as an engine thanks for the review happy new year
Yeah it does look a bit Chinese doesn't it?! Glad you liked it anyway, Happy New Year,
Sam :)
I'm guessing those are duplex stream pumps on the running board? He pointed them out as condensing equipment. For all people who don't know they're basically a steam cylinder coupled to a pumping cylinder, and they flick back and forth pumping water into the boiler. Please correct me if any of the above is incorrect haha! Nice video!
Duly noted Gregory, thanks for the correction!
Cheers,
Sam :)
The b12 comes from The Anglian train set and it came with 2 clestory coaches.
Absolutely right Joshua, spot on! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
speaking of american locos I saw a big boy at my local model railway it was an older model but my god it had the power of a small moon by how much it was pulling
haha I know - I've heard that they're amazing pullers too!! ;D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
The first Camelback locomotives were invented by Ross Winans! Thee Ross Winans is now preserved at the B&O Railroad Museum!
Awesome - thanks a lot for the info! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)
Great post thanks i bought a mehano camelback today thanks for the info!!
Thanks very much - and awesome, they're really nice! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
The livery seems to be trying to emulate the Baltimore and Ohio's "Winans Camels"/"Camels", which are actually a totally different kind of locomotive, but it looks cool, so it definitely gets a pass for that. I think this particular loco might be based on a Central Railroad of New Jersey (?)/New York, Ontario, & Western(?) example from the 1890s.
I praised this one a lot in the running session you did a while back, but I really do love these old Camelback type locomotives, their boiler design is just so unusual for a railway engine.
A random detail that I think is cool from a model railway aspect - The smoke from these locomotives was apparently pretty clean, since the waste anthracite would usually burn to pretty much nothing, so the soot would be pretty minimal, and because of this, a lot of railroads that had these prioritized them for passenger trains.
Being one of the two fireman on an Atlantic camel-back at close to 100 miles an hour must have been quite a ride!
Yeah! I've seen photos of those too - I wonder if those were their loose inspiration for this? I do too - very lovely and unusual looking machines!
Thanks for the info mate, glad to hear they were good and clean too ;)
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The train set that the B12 came in is called the Anglian train set as I bought one a few years ago fantastic loco
Absolutely right - and lucky you, they are fantastic sets! :D
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It almost looks like a narrow gauge locomotive with that giant snailhouse on it's back, I quite like it for that reason.
haha yeah it does actually - I got quite a narrowgauge vibe from it too!
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The B12 is from the Anglian Train Set from hornby
It was indeed, well spotted! :D
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Oh this is easy for me. The B12 in BR Blue came from a Hornby train set which I'd the Anglian train set. This locomotive also has the same running number as the B12 you've showed. I even saw InterCity82's video back then years ago about the B12 Anglian train set from Hornby.
It was indeed - very well remembered mate! Ooh yeah - I think I may have seen that video too! :D
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The Great Northern 4-4-2 is based on a real locomotive, but not from Great Northern. It is actually extremely accurate for the Southern Pacific Atlantic, which would have run with your daylight. Also if that spins your head, hear in the US we also have a Southern RR.
Duly noted Bryce, I didn't know this - thanks a lot for the info! :D
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@@SamsTrains also highly recommend anything from mantua. Extremely well built locomotives that are relatively detailed for the time and are very affordable
Intresting loco, I can understand why it was band. as I have said British engines but I do like the big boy, who doesn't! Great video sam 👍
haha me too - very dangerous things! Absolutely - good old big boy! ;D
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Sometimes, it’s nice to break away from real locomotives and take a look at something that just runs well. If you think the mantua box is fancy, take a look at the bachmann spectrum ones. I also own an ATSF 4-4-2 from mantua. It’s a nice thing to run. And those little strange things in front of the cab, that’s the air compressor for the brakes. We call them firemen and stokers in the US. Doesn’t that B12 come from the Anglian?
Yeah I agree Nate - I just really enjoyed this for what it was!! :D
It did indeed - well done!!
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That B12 was my first ever set and has cemented the B12's as my favourite locomotive of all time (though I was very sad that that blue livery was fictitious as I very much like it, it rivals the apple-green and I hope Hornby do a sort of commemorative model using the new tooling)
That's fantastic to hear Barry - what a great loco to start off with - they are beautiful things - and I can't help loving the BR blue either, even though it's a bit naughty on the B12 ;)
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Reminds me of Doc Brown's engine in "Back to the Future".
haha yeah I see what you mean!! :D
There was also a camelback design that had an 0-8-8-0 wheel arrangement. They were built by the Erie Railroad and are called L1's
Blimey! That sounds a strange one - I'll have to look that one up! :D
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The train set was called "The Anglian" and it came with the BR Blue B12 and 2 Clerestory coaches in "Blood and Custard" Livery
It was indeed! Very well done! :D
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My answer to keep or sell would depend on coupling. If it had a British style, or was easy to convert to, I'd keep, but if not sell because I'd want it to be able to pull my rolling stock.
Ahh yeah!! These are fairly easy to swap - they're all screwed in place! :D
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@@SamsTrains in which case I'd keep. Can't say no to a free loco😂
I would definitely keep it if that engine was given to me.
Heck, I'd probably run it every day just because it's so unique looking. Lovely livery, false though it may be, and just a one-of-a-kind model all around.
I just wish the model set I ordered from Hatton's would hurry up and get here so I can have some track and power to run said engine. I've been waiting almost a year for it, ordered the darn thing in August of 2018!
Glad to hear that!! Yeah I think the uniqueness counts for something!! That's very cool - which engine did you order?? :D
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@@SamsTrains I ordered that Somerset Belle set you reviewed a while back, through the link in that video's description.
If I remember correctly, these were originally designed with the purpose of burning oil efficiently. I'm American so I get a little bit of a kick out watching of other countries think about us and our Locos
Ahh you might be right there then! Glad you like seeing some of this stuff - hopefully I didn't mess this up too badly ;)
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Great review! Just subscribed. Thank you! 🚂
Thanks so much! Really hope you enjoy the channel!
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the livery is not fictional and there are several engines at the B&O railway museum with the livery. including a Camelback, however, it is very much different in design from the model.
Yeah that's true - I didn't mean the livery didn't exist, only that it was never used on this engine!
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