Hello Sam! As a German steam train enthusiast it’s very easy to tell when a locomotive is a model/ modelled after a German steam loco, all German steam locomotives have red wheels and mostly red body, they are also HUGE locos in real life
haha, guessing this wasn't what you had in mind? I might seriously try a proper German (or Polish) engine one day though! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@@CounterCraftYT German-built, stayed in Poland after WWII. Which was fairly common and got many nations in continental Europe some amount of ex-German vehicles. The Class 24 in particular was built for traffic from Berlin towards East Prussia during the... 1920es I think.
Piko keep this locomotive and the Tank Engine Version in their Hobby Range - I believe the owner stated it is important to have motive power that are affordable to younger modellers - they retail at £31/£36
This Oi2 29 is an absolute enigma. A seemingly German 0-2-2-0 that appears to appears to be an overpowered tank engine eqipped with a tender and no ability to acess the cab. It half resembles some sort of AI creation, naturally made by an AI that has no understanding of trains. At least it's got some nice moulded detail.
I had this exact engine from PIKO, it was packaged in a polystyrene box and cardboard box, and it had a numberplate DB 98003. Out of three engines called BR 98 this reminds none of them and the catalogue has it as "Dampflok mit tender" (Steam engine with tender) and it appears in many start sets. I no longer run it, but it is very fast (and the tender sometimes comes off) This could be just some factory making them for piko and sending some unbranded
It probably only cost 1 pound to make it. Just a plastic molded shape, which probably cost 20 pence and a 50 pence motor. Cheap and nasty. The only reason they can sell it at all is because it is sold as a "model train." If you put wheels and a motor on a dried up dog turd and called it a locomotive, could you sell if for 50 pounds?
6:34: Actually, that would be a 0-2-2-0 “double single” if the front wheels are driven too. The back wheels of an 0-2-2-0 are driven by the coupling rods and outside cylinders. The front wheels are driven by an internal cylinder and internal valve gear. Hope this info is useful!
The real PKP Oi2 class is a DRG design from the 1920s and 1930s, known in Germany as the class 24. This is a small 2-6-0 that survived in west Germany until the 1960s, and until the 70s in East Germany and in Poland.
@@SamsTrains well sam you still could at the tat controller as some things are the same price as a house and are tat and some are so cheap yet so good cheep dosen't automaticly mean tat!
YEEESSS FINALLY PKP LOCO I AM SO PROUD OF YOU. Now you need to buy a good polish loco from PIKO.( Btw. This "model" is a toy from old piko starter sets which where a circle track with this loco and 2 wagons/)
Thanks very much for sharing! I would like to try some proper PIKO stuff - I wonder if they know their gear is on AliExpress?! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@@SamsTrains Modern Piko models are probably price-wise on a par with UK models. They're not generally as eye-wateringly expensive as many of the other continental manufacturers (e.g. Roco). Possibly AliExpress have this model under licence from Piko?
It looks to me like parts of different models that were put together. The boiler, the cab and the tender are those of a German class 24. Some locos of that class remained in Poland after the war where they were reclassified as Oi2. However the chassis comes from something completely different: As you can see in the photo you found, the German 24/Polish Oi2 is a 2-6-0 and the driving wheels are bigger than those of the model. They also made some changes to the loco body. They added water tanks on the sides of the boiler, which doesn‘t make any sense in a tender engine, and unlike the prototype the model doesn‘t have deflectors.
Remember that this is supposed to be little more than a toy train that introduces children into the hobby. It’s not listed as a high quality model, and it isn’t trying to be a high quality model. After all, it’s meant to entertain a child, not an experienced adult model railroader.
I'm 99.99% sure this is old Piko tooling. As a kid in the USSR, this engine came in a starter set that my parents gifted me in the late 1980s. It's a German-based outline, but doesn't match any specific prototype. On the Piko version, the connecting rods, while plastic, were finished in a shiny metal paint, and the cab was open in the back (with the motor showing).
This is a German Steam Engine, this particular model (with and without tender) is sold with German numbering and the "DB" logo around here by a company called piko, which usually makes very good Modell trains (especially the old ones from former East Germany, those things are unkillable, with many of them being 50 to 40 years old and still running today!)
I looked into how PKP classifies their locomotives. The "O" in Oi2 indicates its a passenger locomotive. The "i" indicates that its a 2-6-0 or 0-6-4, which it obviously isn't, and the "2" means it was built in Germany or Prussia. The numbers underneath Oi2 is the serial number. If there was a third letter between the "O" and "i" it would mean that its a tank locomotive.
I love these videos about the cheap locos (manly for Sam’s impressions), Sam it would be great if you could do a vid on how to make these locos look better.
This is the exact same copy of the old PIKO BR98 starter pack stem loco. It's made since the 60's-70's. Usually you can get one used for 7-10 pounds. Fun fact, PIKO still produces cheap analouge starter packs, that are came with this BR98 +2 coaches. And because PIKO produces in China, no wonder, you can get one of theese brand new on eBay or Wish. And for a lot of kids back in the days, this little engine with the coaches was it's first ever model train.
This 'model' does have a prototype, which is the DR class 24. It was produced in Germany since the late 1920s until mid-1930s. After the WWII some of these were used in Poland and were classified as Oi2. The wheel configuration of this locomotive in real life was 2-6-0.
It's from Piko Edit: And it's not based off any real loco Edit2: 44£??? They sell these in start sets with wagons, tracks and controller for the same price
I think its a DRG Class 24 2-6-0 without smoke deflectors and added side tanks and reduced to a 0-4-0. So yeah it is based on a real loco but very big creative liberties taken to make it cheaper to make and more robust
The fact that you said the 1361 developed a spasm and it looked like it was suffering made me laugh so hard! The 1361 is such a comedic loco! Like you said, a re-review of the 1361 would be ace XD Also the odd loco out was the Q1, can i have a signed certificate now please? XD
haha I know - that loco's been comedy gold right from the start... it's actually served me much better than it would have had it been decent! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
As some have said, it is from PIKO. I have two models of this loco. One with tender (the exact same as this "toy") and one without tender a.k.a. tank engine. That may explain the existence of rear buffer slot. They use the exact same chassis.
Hey sam, from what i've seen this loco appears to be based on a german DRG-class 80 tank engine from one of the german manufacturers like pico, roco, or fleischmann, but with the coal bunker chopped off to make room for a tender (hence why the buffers on the back). Don't get the wrong taste of these tho, i've owned one of these little tank engines before and they're actually quite lovely little models, and with insane detail on the newer ones, you should review one in the future, german models are quite different quality wise, this one appears to be a cheap knockoff of one of the ones from the 1990's to early 2000's era
The hidden gem has got to be the Q1. Has to be the best slow crawl I've ever seen. Superb loco, and I love the prototype - always a favourite at the NRM
you know, with a little bit of work (like shaving off the access plastic and opening the back end of the loco) and modding (like switching the motor out and placing it in the tender with a new set of pick ups though leaving the existing on the logo itself for lights/wiring for said lights) you would have a good loco in general for testing wagons and other stuff on the lay out
@@SamsTrains i think you should! It's a nice loco underneath it's rough appearance. Swap the motor and give it some better drivers, maybe from a scrap 0-4-0 like a saddle tank and make the slider functional. Basically just Frankenstein it.
Yeah, those tiny, closely-spaced wheels seem mismatched for the loco size. Seems to me that in the real world, with the loco itself being super heavy, the loco would have a tendency to fall on its 'nose' when not attached to a train. I suppose the tender might prevent that, but it seems a poor design decision nonetheless.
Good Lord, these 3 engines are atrocious 😂 Listening to you berating the devil out of the 1361 and watching the thing itself trying to kill itself on every opportunity was all I needed for my day to be perfect 👌🏽 Also, the Q1 is the answer lol!
The Loco is from Piko in the Starter Set: Starter Set Passenger Train with Steam loco PKP, PIKO A-Track w. Railbed. Item number: 97933. And i have the old Version from this Loco. Greetings from Berlin.
Based on the tender, I'd say Sam found the correct prototype in the DR Class 24, if "prototype" is even the correct word for a loco that is this obviously not interested in being prototypical. At the very least, I am pretty sure the Reichsbahn (whose red/black color scheme is on this model) never had a B / 0-4-0 tender engine.
You do know that this loco is from PIKO, i have it as well and in my opinion its good... but its my first, so i am not the person to say. (The original PIKO model is better quality, more metal and that stuff) but besides that I LOVE YOUR VIDS! You got me in the hobby and i love it.
So fun listening to Sam rightly giving out about theses locos, and man the Heljin 1361 that made me laugh so much. Please do a re-review of the Heljin and let both barrels go on it !
Hi Sam. very amusing video. It performed better than the tango haha. You could soon use it to pull a santa special, pulling some cheap wagons full of presents. You could do with a scrapyard scene on your layout with the 1361 loco being the first victim of the cutters torch. Stay safe and well. Cheers Chris.
I thought I had seen this loco before. I have seen it advertised on Amazon for around the same price and its manufacturer identity is that its a PIKO Hobby basic trainset model, look up PIKO Hobby 0-4-0 locomotive. There is also a tank engine version that also looks delightfully cheap and nasty.
@@bartoszkrawczyk3946 yeah the other locomotives look good I checked them out on the UK retailer Gaugemaster and some of the diesel locomotives were reasonably priced.
This video is simply a barrel of laughs. The loco, it’s coupling ability, the. Just full sending it, the other locos and how they seem to break down on cue. I didn’t stop laughing for the whole second half of the video.
I'm going to say the SR Q1 Class is the odd one out, because while the design is often referred to as "the ugly duckling", it's actually a very functional, low-maintenance loco! Or at least, it will be if it's anything like its real-world counterpart :P.
I actually dont mind the locomotive. If you paint it up, give it a 5 volt motor somehow, and add a hornby or bachmann couplings. And also You really like the " ugly duckling " Q1 the most
This came in a starter set Some older versions came with metal siderods and ruber buffers There is also a tank engine version I own two of the tender Engines one without tender and one tank engine
Polish Model Railroaders appreciate your video 🇵🇱 I was surprised to see you review a fictional Polish engine. I hope you'll do more Polish or even Piko models in the future. Thumbs up coming from Poland :D Greetings and Regards: Adam L
Wikipedia has a nice article on the PKP classification system which just shows how wrong this one has been numbered O means mixed/stopping train traffic i means 2-6-0 or 0-6-2 2 means German or Prussian origin steam engine if they had used "b" instead of "i" then that would have at least meant a 0-4-0 . However I cannot find an Ob2 engine and Wiki doesn't list any either.
My very first locomotive was just like this my dad bought it in the late 80's or early 90's (it's an ancient PIKO design that really hasn't changed a bit through the decades some early ones where made with steel frames and 9V motors also there's an other type made with the exact same frame and running gear that's a tank locomotive without the tender hence the holes for the buffers at the back, older ones where fitted with better quality motors but they're all kinda loud) and ran it a lot then later gifted it to me in 2007 the bearing surfaces in the frame worn out once but we put little seel bushings into them, they might be cheaply made but they are basically indestructible. Also worth mentioning that they where mostly sold in sets and where basically the only models people could afford in the Eastern Block.
Thanks a lot for sharing - yes I'm told this is a PIKO one - I bet yours was much better quality, for sure! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
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@@SamsTrains Hi there, I'm probably very late to the party but I know those fairly well. The piece you have is a sh*ttier version of already sh*tty PIKO 50501 (often marked as DB98 003, but I tend to believe there is no such thing in reality). It shares the same drivetrain with the PIKO 50500, which is loosely based on the real DB80 and here is the history behind that: The series was started in about 1960's, but there was produced the "true" DB80 model with three axles, same body but different drivetrain and also a version for the startset (a toy basically). I don't know when they added the version with tender but in 1980's it already did exist. As the time went on, they simplified the drivetrain more into the one you have now. Nowadays you can only buy the "proper 3-axle" DB80 marketed as the DB80 and I believe those cheap ones do just carry the product code 50500 and 50501, but they are still based on the old DB80 toy 2-axle versions until now. I had the old 2-axle DB80 made in 1970's as a kid and I bought exactly the same recently again, so I actually own the older smaller sister of the loco you have here, but the drivetrain with gears is basically the same. You may see it in my 2021 Xmas layout vlog and I can eventually provide you with some details for comparison. Anyway, best regards form CZ! You do a great job with the cheap loco's reviews!
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Just got my hands on two of the Chinese passenger cars that belong to this set. Interesting to see the difference in quality between the originals and Chinese version.
I would say that this train is inspired by the Polish train you Googled, but very loosely based on it. If you look at some of the "domes" (I don't know the proper name) they resemble those on that loco. If so, the loco it is derived from was originally a German class 24 which stayed in Poland after the war and got renamed. It actually did get that unusual Oi2 classification and number 29 is actually in preservation in Poland. There's even a Wikipedia page about it in English : en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/DRG_Class_24 PS: I'm glad you were able to give El Cheapo something to do during this troubling time.
It looks like a typical PIKO locomotive from a start set (fictitious type). Your model is in Polish State Railways (PKP) version and it has series of a real 2-6-0 tender locomotive (Oi2 ex german BR24). A set with this locomotive, 2 passanger cars and a track oval (PIKO Starterset 97933) at PIKO Webshop costs 78€ (ca. 70£) so I guess 44£ for just the loco isn't a good price. The chassis is the same for the tender version and the tank engine from other PIKO Start sets (thats why there are holes for buffers on the rear). I think the tender is from the german BR55 locomotive (maybe little shortened)
Thank you for changing El Cheapo. As a Latino American myself, while I wasn’t overly offended by the character, it’s nice not to have the stereotype of Latinx individuals on your channel. Well done! :)
hi sam. I think you should be less defensive about this stereotype problem. like i don't think you're a bad person or anything, but it's not a good thing to get defensive about something when people are concerned that you're perpetuating harmful stereotypes. It's a step in the right direction to refit the bit, but it feels kind of hollow with the way you did it.
I’m sorry, I do feel defensive. It’s been an incredibly rough year, and there’s a lot of nasty stuff in the world. When people seek to remove jokes or comedy from context in order to call them offensive or ‘cancel’ them, I do feel defensive, because as the trend continues, everything becomes off-limits, and we’ll find that we can’t laugh at ourselves anymore. This will be (and has already been) disruptive to the entertainment industry that I love. Distinctions must be made between offensive material with dangerous, malicious intent, and harmless entertainment intended purely to amuse. Not everyone has to feel as I do, and that’s a good thing. The fact that I disagree with the criticism here is perfectly acceptable too, though please recognise that I have now removed the character that was objected to.
@@SamsTrains this isn't about cancelling. this is about improving yourself so that you don't make the videos uncomfortable for some people. Comedy doesn't work in a vacuum. It's subjective. So that means what you think is funny might not be what others find funny, and if your audience doesn't like the joke, you're doing a bad job at relating to your audience. the trouble is that you weren't really laughing at *yourself*, you're laughing at another racial/ethnic/national group of people. Regardless of the intent that's how it's perceived. Also, I get it. We're all having a rough year. If you want to feel defensive then you're entitled to that. But we're grown ups here (albeit grown ups who like trains an awful lot, occasionally colorful talking ones), we don't have to show it. The distinction you mention is a useful one, and it's why I don't think you're a bad person. But just because you didn't do something harmful on purpose doesn't mean it wasn't a bad thing to do. I'm not really interested in continuing this back and forth, but I will say one last thing. It would be useful for you to consider why it's such a big deal that racist jokes are "off limits," why it's so important that you be able to make racist stereotypical jokes without criticism.
@@WhirligigGirl It's not about improving. It's about idiots like you trying to force others to capitulate to your evil, manipulative ideology wherein your made-up "offence" must be appeased at all times. Sam wants to have a Mexican character based on the traditional stereotype. He can. And we can all laugh at it. Just as the Japanese laugh as the traditional American stereotype of a blond, war-crazed soldier and Americans frequently laugh at the British stereotype of a hat-wearing, tea-drinking Bond villain. Don't pretend that you're a "grown up" when you're trying to condemn someone for not appealing to your insane, illiberal, authoritarian feelings.
@@stepkneeboi exactly... half of these people would have an aneurysm if they heard half the stuff that came out of my mouth... I wonder how many Hispanics actually watch a British UA-camr whose focus is you trains...
@tiny table wargames Did the killing of George Floyd affect you personally? Probably not. Does that mean you shouldn’t care about systematic racism? Absolutely not. You dont need to be affected by an issue to take issue with it. If everyone thought like that, nothing would ever change.
Oi! This was probably the most HILARIOUS Episode I've watched! Between El Hobo Cheapo, Oi as part of the Running Number, The Death Rattle, and the Thomas the Tank-Like horrid crash at 17:42 the Engine was worth the 44 quid you paid just for the laughs, the Heljan 1361 was the icing on the cake XD "one day folks... one day". The Engine that looks clapped out and junky yet is actually quite good in my opinion would be that Elderly Looking Diecast GWR Mogul at 21:26. Just because she's old and knackered looking doesn't mean she's not a good old girl underneath! I've had many old Brass engines that ran better than they had any right to. Cheers mate, got a good laugh out of this one!
@@SamsTrains Quick question mate, have you considered reviewing any of Hornby's live steam models of the A-3's and A-4's? Or Considered purchasing an O-gauge Live Steam Loco like a Mamod or Accucraft model for your O gauge Branch? Would be interesting to see you review a legit live steam loco, the price of some of these HO Scale Engines is comparable to a Mamod!
It wasnt kids on twitter it was full grown adults who are right. Theres no need to keep pedalling tired out stereotypes in this day and age. Honestly el cheapo annoyed me when it first turned up but Honestly this snarky response has rubbed me up the wrong way even more :( Yes its good to have fun and i love seeing your cheap and nasty reviews but the whole el cheapo thing really doesn't add anything. I normally love your wit and sarcasm especially when roasting companies but the first few mins of this have Honestly left me feeling disappointed. Can we all move forward and just leave the el cheapo character behind us? Full steam ahead and on to more great future vids! ❤
The majority of the accounts I looked at were around 15 years of age. Some of whom persisted in posting irrelevant images out of context in order to falsly push the narrative that I'm racist. The rest, rather than just not watching content they didn’t like, as an adult would, fought to try and ‘cancel’ it. Their age combined with their behaviour led me to the conclusion: children. As for being right, it was a subjective discussion - nobody is right and nobody is wrong. They felt El-cheapo was offensive, I did not. People are allowed to disagree. I approached the response the same way I do anything - through humour - but let it be known that I made changes, even though I didn't think they were necessary, because I do not want to offend people, and that matters to me. I'm sorry if it came across as snarky, but be reminded that I didn't agree with those assertions for reasons I've previously explained. Please don't feel disappointed - like all of my skits, they're designed to be meaningless. Don't waste your energy worrying or getting upset about this - try to read it as it was intended! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
It may look horrible but it runs better than some mainstream very expensive locos but to be honest it was originally made as a kids toy and someone on Ali express is selling them as proper models. So really I thought the score a bit harsh.
El Cheapo was a highly offensive stereotype towards the Hispanic community. Me and other members of this community were rightly outraged by this stereotype. Sure some may be ok with it but no matter how you look at it is a harmful stereotype that Sam refuses to take seriously
@@bigmac342 I disagree, I understand why you would be upset, but you must understand the this is a joke its ment to be humorous. There are stereotypes for all thing living and non living. For Example: there are stereotypes for Chinese products, stereotypes for pitbulls, stereotypes about British people not being able to say Certain Syllables, Just to name a few stereotypes. They exist in everything because that's just the way people are. The thing is at the end of the day I don't get offended by the el cheapo thing because I can take a joke and I can see the humorin it. This channel is about model/toy trains and we are all hear to have fun. But In my opinion the most offensive thing about it is how cringy it is lol Regards Adam
@@adamrivera3327 look I get that but I just hate how Sam doesn’t understand why some would be upset. I would be fine if he just apologized and moved on. Hell I wasn’t even that upset when I first saw el cheapo but the way he handled it is what I had a promotion with. Instead of handling this real issue seriously he just says everyone else is to blame since they can’t take a joke. Also telling someone to take a joke is a bit offensive. Everyone has a right to be offended by something.
El Cheapo seems to have migrated over here to become an English Gentleman! I don't think that the old intro was offensive in any way, I quite enjoyed his exotic character, but the new one is very good too!
This locomotive is from the Piko Hobby range, you can get them from some UK model shops like gaugemaster for £40, with a tank engine version for £35. Pretty cheap for German stuff tbh, this is their equivalent of Hornby's Smokey Joe basically. Seeing as this one is unboxed I'm guessing the seller split it from a train set or it's possibly even direct from factory for some reason given it's Ali Express. Also shows that Aii Express isn't always cheaper.
I wasnt expecting that animated guy talking in a slight Italian voice with a mustache and hat and the fact you make it sound like the funniest stuff ever with the pancho i forgot what you call the hat you cut into a top hat heheh
I have a Hornby Class 08 Diesel from the “Mixed Traffic” DCC set that wobbles like that 1361. I believe it had been dropped at some time before I purchased it as one set of wheels appears to have a slightly miss aligned axle. Mind you, I bought the whole set “new” from a dealer
I actually had this train back when I was high school and I got it as a set with 2 passenger cars and track (no controller) for $30 US but this was almost 20 years ago. It didn’t make near as much noise at that you have there. I also remember the brand being PIKO actually. They make other German style trains that are waaaaaay more realistic than this one I can tell you that. I ended trading it for some other odds and ends at my local railroad museum. From what I remember it didn’t stay long there so someone has it and is enjoying I hope. I have a ROCO 2-10-0 decapod that my dad and I modeled to make it look like a war train with weathering and sandbags on the engine. That one is a much better runner I can say that for a fact.
I'd say that this is a copy of East German Piko Junior locomotive, which also lacked true prototype. I had something like this, except it did not have tender, it was so called tank locomotive, also with two axles. But thos type was also available from Piko in Junior series.
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I heard that too - silly rumours!!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Sam's train won't but sam's trains has
@@therealvbw lol. Yep! XD
The Fat Controller laughed "well they're wrong, and you shouldn't listen to rumors
I heard another rumor that my channel will never reach 1k subscribers
Hello Sam! As a German steam train enthusiast it’s very easy to tell when a locomotive is a model/ modelled after a German steam loco, all German steam locomotives have red wheels and mostly red body, they are also HUGE locos in real life
Same with Polish locomotives.
In particular this is a PKP(Polish Railways) Version of the German(DRG/DR/DB) Class 24 in Poland they called it the Oi2 Class of Locomotives
If you don't mind me asking, did Germany make the marklin engine from the model Thomas show???
@@lrcronk9874yea they did i think its a br 80 class
“It makes the loco look like it’s suffering, and that brings me joy”
That made me laughing
haha!! xD
Where does he say that?
@@jakeandzack5763 near the end, when he runs all 3 locos at the same time
It Is Said that too this day, it still is a horrible model train
My son modifies some cheap train's to run for Hornby tracks by watching you're videos we are proud of you Sam for making my son a little engineer👍👍
Great to hear that!! Well done him for learning those new skills! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
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@@freddyfazbearsgamingymas6722 Usually people get it the other way round.
Me: "I'd really like to see Sam review a German steam engine!"
*finger on the monkey's paw curls*
But this eample is Polish
@@CounterCraftYT If this loco is based on the one Sam Googled it's actually originally a German locomotive that stayed in Poland after the war.
haha, guessing this wasn't what you had in mind? I might seriously try a proper German (or Polish) engine one day though! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@@CounterCraftYT German-built, stayed in Poland after WWII. Which was fairly common and got many nations in continental Europe some amount of ex-German vehicles. The Class 24 in particular was built for traffic from Berlin towards East Prussia during the... 1920es I think.
@Iain Botham Märklin / Trix (depending on if you want AC or DC) would be the market leader.
5:37 it has the Polish eagle on the side of the locomotive and tender so it was definitely used in Poland
Piko keep this locomotive and the Tank Engine Version in their Hobby Range - I believe the owner stated it is important to have motive power that are affordable to younger modellers - they retail at £31/£36
This Oi2 29 is an absolute enigma. A seemingly German 0-2-2-0 that appears to appears to be an overpowered tank engine eqipped with a tender and no ability to acess the cab.
It half resembles some sort of AI creation, naturally made by an AI that has no understanding of trains.
At least it's got some nice moulded detail.
If I asked for a model train for Christmas, this is what my parents would get me...XD
Welp....
haha, you'd better double check that ASAP! ;D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
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I got this exact engine for Christmas when i was a kid.
"That horrible offensive moustache - cut that down!"
Somehow, it became MORE offensive. I did Nazi see that coming.
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haha, fortunately I can't do a good German accent! ;D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@@SamsTrains It was Charlie Chaplin's mustache first
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I had this exact engine from PIKO, it was packaged in a polystyrene box and cardboard box, and it had a numberplate DB 98003. Out of three engines called BR 98 this reminds none of them and the catalogue has it as "Dampflok mit tender" (Steam engine with tender) and it appears in many start sets. I no longer run it, but it is very fast (and the tender sometimes comes off)
This could be just some factory making them for piko and sending some unbranded
if it was £20 id buy it, could make a nice little project , £44 is to much for this loco . great vid sam : )
If you were to buy this loco, buy it from the actual manufacturer, Piko: it's way cheaper, 36,88 pounds and you get the actual packaging
@@allie-873 at thanks for the info : )
Yeah sure, I think £20 would be much better!!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@@allie-873 And there's an even cheaper tank engine option.
It probably only cost 1 pound to make it. Just a plastic molded shape, which probably cost 20 pence and a 50 pence motor. Cheap and nasty. The only reason they can sell it at all is because it is sold as a "model train." If you put wheels and a motor on a dried up dog turd and called it a locomotive, could you sell if for 50 pounds?
1:05 I...I can't believe it. Is...Is that...
Is that the one,, the only hobo cheapo?
I honestly don't know - he just turned up that way - I gave him some money for new clothes!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
He looks like the sheriff or police officer off of postman Pat
Pls dont delete this its actually true
someone has to make a meme out of that
6:34: Actually, that would be a 0-2-2-0 “double single” if the front wheels are driven too. The back wheels of an 0-2-2-0 are driven by the coupling rods and outside cylinders. The front wheels are driven by an internal cylinder and internal valve gear. Hope this info is useful!
There are also other types of “double single” locomotives like the 2-2-2-2 LNWR “Greater Britain” class and 4-2-2-0 LSWR T7 class.
But all the wheels on this loco is powered by gears inside.
Careful - we're getting into Webb 'Problem' country ;-)
The real PKP Oi2 class is a DRG design from the 1920s and 1930s, known in Germany as the class 24. This is a small 2-6-0 that survived in west Germany until the 1960s, and until the 70s in East Germany and in Poland.
Cool stuff Mark, thanks a lot for the info! :D
"we may have _slliiiiiiigghhtly_ left 4 wheels behind..."
-the operator of that locomotive
Maybe you should retire el cheapo, and instead have, the Tat controller, the name goes well with that top hat
haha that'd be nice, but I'd never do that to ElCheapo, he's been a good friend!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@@SamsTrains well sam you still could at the tat controller as some things are the same price as a house and are tat and some are so cheap yet so good cheep dosen't automaticly mean tat!
"It looks like it's suffering, which brings me joy."
I just died.
haha!! xD
YEEESSS FINALLY PKP LOCO I AM SO PROUD OF YOU. Now you need to buy a good polish loco from PIKO.( Btw. This "model" is a toy from old piko starter sets which where a circle track with this loco and 2 wagons/)
You are right. They are from the Startset: Start-Set Dampflok mit Personenwagen PKP.
And i have the old Version from my East Germany Childhood.
Thanks very much for sharing! I would like to try some proper PIKO stuff - I wonder if they know their gear is on AliExpress?!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@@SamsTrains Modern Piko models are probably price-wise on a par with UK models. They're not generally as eye-wateringly expensive as many of the other continental manufacturers (e.g. Roco). Possibly AliExpress have this model under licence from Piko?
I was going to say it looked like it came out of a set, that would explain the styrofoam on the loco and tender.
@@An_Economist_Plays Could well be.
It looks to me like parts of different models that were put together. The boiler, the cab and the tender are those of a German class 24. Some locos of that class remained in Poland after the war where they were reclassified as Oi2. However the chassis comes from something completely different: As you can see in the photo you found, the German 24/Polish Oi2 is a 2-6-0 and the driving wheels are bigger than those of the model. They also made some changes to the loco body. They added water tanks on the sides of the boiler, which doesn‘t make any sense in a tender engine, and unlike the prototype the model doesn‘t have deflectors.
Yes it really does look that way actually - I agree!!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Remember that this is supposed to be little more than a toy train that introduces children into the hobby. It’s not listed as a high quality model, and it isn’t trying to be a high quality model. After all, it’s meant to entertain a child, not an experienced adult model railroader.
I'm 99.99% sure this is old Piko tooling. As a kid in the USSR, this engine came in a starter set that my parents gifted me in the late 1980s. It's a German-based outline, but doesn't match any specific prototype.
On the Piko version, the connecting rods, while plastic, were finished in a shiny metal paint, and the cab was open in the back (with the motor showing).
Yes everyone's said that - I think that right!!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Me: Mom can I get a lner A3
Mom: we have one at home
The lner A3 at home
haha! xD
It’s A German Locomotive
@@totallythomasfan10 makes it even worse.
This is a German Steam Engine, this particular model (with and without tender) is sold with German numbering and the "DB" logo around here by a company called piko, which usually makes very good Modell trains (especially the old ones from former East Germany, those things are unkillable, with many of them being 50 to 40 years old and still running today!)
Thanks very much for sharing this - that clears up some of my questions!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Mom can I have a model train?
No we already have a model train at home
Model train at home:
I looked into how PKP classifies their locomotives. The "O" in Oi2 indicates its a passenger locomotive. The "i" indicates that its a 2-6-0 or 0-6-4, which it obviously isn't, and the "2" means it was built in Germany or Prussia. The numbers underneath Oi2 is the serial number. If there was a third letter between the "O" and "i" it would mean that its a tank locomotive.
Thanks a lot for doing that - others have said the same thing - loco's got to be wrong then hasn't it?! :O
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Spotted it immediately it’s the q1 at the left side of the performance test ‘area’
Also great video as always!
I spotted it immediately as well. I'm like, "Is the theme ugly locos? Nope, it's the odd one out."
haha very well spotted, that's it! ;D
I love these videos about the cheap locos (manly for Sam’s impressions), Sam it would be great if you could do a vid on how to make these locos look better.
Thanks Henry! If I knew how to make them better, I would do that mate, lol! ;D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@@SamsTrains - In this case, all you'd need is a hammer...
@@brianartillery DUDE I WOULD DO THAT TO LOL
That is actually a good idea.
@@brianartillery so true 😂
You made me laugh when you said “Oi2 29”, by the way.
haha glad to hear that! ;D
I automaticly read it as Wee2 29
@@raymondleggs5508 Partly as in the French translation to the word “yes”?
@@SamsTrains same :D
i mean, the *_𝓞𝓘_* 2 29 is a pretty cool locomotive after all.
The old El cheapo is gone. I really miss him
Me too - the new guy is super weird, he kept trying to lick my trains :(
I don't want him coming back... help :(
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@@SamsTrains hahahaha Sam you have to get him a dog muzzle so he can't lick anything
@@SamsTrains He licks some cheap trains, massages them too, it's El Creepooooo
😥😥
@@SamsTrains 😝😁😂
This is the exact same copy of the old PIKO BR98 starter pack stem loco. It's made since the 60's-70's. Usually you can get one used for 7-10 pounds. Fun fact, PIKO still produces cheap analouge starter packs, that are came with this BR98 +2 coaches. And because PIKO produces in China, no wonder, you can get one of theese brand new on eBay or Wish. And for a lot of kids back in the days, this little engine with the coaches was it's first ever model train.
Thanks for sharing - yes that's exactly what others have said too, that must be right! I definitely over-paid too, lol! ;D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
This 'model' does have a prototype, which is the DR class 24. It was produced in Germany since the late 1920s until mid-1930s. After the WWII some of these were used in Poland and were classified as Oi2. The wheel configuration of this locomotive in real life was 2-6-0.
It's from Piko
Edit: And it's not based off any real loco
Edit2: 44£??? They sell these in start sets with wagons, tracks and controller for the same price
Piko was my first thought too !
I think its a DRG Class 24 2-6-0 without smoke deflectors and added side tanks and reduced to a 0-4-0. So yeah it is based on a real loco but very big creative liberties taken to make it cheaper to make and more robust
From the packaging, I'm guessing this one came from one of those sets, that the seller is simply parting out.
Wow!! So I got ripped off?! xD
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@@SamsTrains welcome to aliexpress and a nice oriental tradition we call "raspil"
The fact that you said the 1361 developed a spasm and it looked like it was suffering made me laugh so hard! The 1361 is such a comedic loco! Like you said, a re-review of the 1361 would be ace XD
Also the odd loco out was the Q1,
can i have a signed certificate now please? XD
haha I know - that loco's been comedy gold right from the start... it's actually served me much better than it would have had it been decent! ;D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
As some have said, it is from PIKO. I have two models of this loco. One with tender (the exact same as this "toy") and one without tender a.k.a. tank engine. That may explain the existence of rear buffer slot. They use the exact same chassis.
Thanks mate, yes you're right - that's what others have said!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Hey sam, from what i've seen this loco appears to be based on a german DRG-class 80 tank engine from one of the german manufacturers like pico, roco, or fleischmann, but with the coal bunker chopped off to make room for a tender (hence why the buffers on the back). Don't get the wrong taste of these tho, i've owned one of these little tank engines before and they're actually quite lovely little models, and with insane detail on the newer ones, you should review one in the future, german models are quite different quality wise, this one appears to be a cheap knockoff of one of the ones from the 1990's to early 2000's era
Decent German models make even the best of British outline seem as toys.
I feel bad for the Q1 having to be surrounded by things that are more than lemons.
Me too - it was very shaken at the end of the day!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
5:44 the application of the paintwork actually does look pretty good.
The hidden gem has got to be the Q1. Has to be the best slow crawl I've ever seen. Superb loco, and I love the prototype - always a favourite at the NRM
Well spotted- yes they are wonderful - Email me if you want your certificate!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I think i had this once. Bucle up, Sam, you’re in for a wild ride, because this thing is HELLA FAST!
you know, with a little bit of work (like shaving off the access plastic and opening the back end of the loco) and modding (like switching the motor out and placing it in the tender with a new set of pick ups though leaving the existing on the logo itself for lights/wiring for said lights) you would have a good loco in general for testing wagons and other stuff on the lay out
Yeah that's true - with some work it could be much better! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@@SamsTrains i think you should! It's a nice loco underneath it's rough appearance. Swap the motor and give it some better drivers, maybe from a scrap 0-4-0 like a saddle tank and make the slider functional. Basically just Frankenstein it.
Sam you never fail to make me laugh! You always show the funny side to model railway! I love it!
1:11
haha thanks so much mate - glad you enjoyed it! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Haha i love how this slowly turned into you ripping into the 1361 anyways another great review sam!
haha yeah - I just can't resist it! ;D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
The locomotive looks like it should have more wheels is it also a tank locomotive trying to be a tender locomotive it's a very weird locomotive
Yeah, those tiny, closely-spaced wheels seem mismatched for the loco size. Seems to me that in the real world, with the loco itself being super heavy, the loco would have a tendency to fall on its 'nose' when not attached to a train. I suppose the tender might prevent that, but it seems a poor design decision nonetheless.
Yeah! The real thing had more wheels, not that it's much to go by! ;D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
This train isn’t british class . This polish PKP Gdańsk 0i
This locomotive looks a bit German to me
21:27 Oh man! You got a Martin-Martmartinson Models Dapol GWR 2-6-0! You’re so lucky!
The bullied Q1
Where’s my certificate? 😂😂😂😂
Fun video
Love the top hat
Well done! Send me an email, and I'll reply with your certificate!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@@SamsTrains I emailed you 🤣
Poor Q1, why do those cruel bastards bully him, he's done no evil!
1:19 legendary piko train!
Is it Piko then?!
@@SamsTrains yes
@@SamsTrains yes! Germany campany
@@SamsTrains No. Piko is high end nowadays. But it is former East German, and some people cant forgive them. So it has to be bad.
This junior train
Good Lord, these 3 engines are atrocious 😂
Listening to you berating the devil out of the 1361 and watching the thing itself trying to kill itself on every opportunity was all I needed for my day to be perfect 👌🏽
Also, the Q1 is the answer lol!
haha they certainly are - and glad to hear that! The Q1 is the answer! ;D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
The Loco is from Piko in the Starter Set: Starter Set Passenger Train with Steam loco PKP, PIKO A-Track w. Railbed.
Item number: 97933.
And i have the old Version from this Loco.
Greetings from Berlin.
Thanks very much for sharing - so it's PIKO! :O
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Based on the tender, I'd say Sam found the correct prototype in the DR Class 24, if "prototype" is even the correct word for a loco that is this obviously not interested in being prototypical. At the very least, I am pretty sure the Reichsbahn (whose red/black color scheme is on this model) never had a B / 0-4-0 tender engine.
You do know that this loco is from PIKO, i have it as well and in my opinion its good... but its my first, so i am not the person to say. (The original PIKO model is better quality, more metal and that stuff) but besides that I LOVE YOUR VIDS! You got me in the hobby and i love it.
This is imitation of Polisch State Railways loco! I have never expected Sam'sTrains having Polisch loco! (btw They are nice!) Greetings from poland!
haha you're right - I never expected it either... the listing said it was German! xD
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
So fun listening to Sam rightly giving out about theses locos, and man the Heljin 1361 that made me laugh so much. Please do a re-review of the Heljin and let both barrels go on it !
haha thanks Henry, glad you liked it!! I'll think about that! ;D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Hi Sam. very amusing video. It performed better than the tango haha. You could soon use it to pull a santa special, pulling some cheap wagons full of presents. You could do with a scrapyard scene on your layout with the 1361 loco being the first victim of the cutters torch. Stay safe and well. Cheers Chris.
haha it literally did actually - and good idea, lol! ;D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I thought I had seen this loco before. I have seen it advertised on Amazon for around the same price and its manufacturer identity is that its a PIKO Hobby basic trainset model, look up PIKO Hobby 0-4-0 locomotive. There is also a tank engine version that also looks delightfully cheap and nasty.
It is true, but other PIKO trains are much better, to be honest
@@bartoszkrawczyk3946 yeah the other locomotives look good I checked them out on the UK retailer Gaugemaster and some of the diesel locomotives were reasonably priced.
Oh wow! Are they really on Amazon? Bugger!
@@SamsTrains they are on Gaugemaster's website as well
This video is simply a barrel of laughs. The loco, it’s coupling ability, the. Just full sending it, the other locos and how they seem to break down on cue. I didn’t stop laughing for the whole second half of the video.
haha thanks so much! It was a gift that kept on giving wasn't it?! ;D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I'm going to say the SR Q1 Class is the odd one out, because while the design is often referred to as "the ugly duckling", it's actually a very functional, low-maintenance loco! Or at least, it will be if it's anything like its real-world counterpart :P.
Absolutely right!! Email me if you want your certificate!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I actually dont mind the locomotive. If you paint it up, give it a 5 volt motor somehow, and add a hornby or bachmann couplings.
And also You really like the " ugly duckling " Q1 the most
This came in a starter set
Some older versions came with metal siderods and ruber buffers
There is also a tank engine version
I own two of the tender Engines one without tender and one tank engine
Polish Model Railroaders appreciate your video 🇵🇱
I was surprised to see you review a fictional Polish engine. I hope you'll do more Polish or even Piko models in the future. Thumbs up coming from Poland :D
Greetings and Regards: Adam L
haha yeah - I'm sorry that my first Polish loco wasn't any good - maybe I'll try some better ones next time?! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
At least there's a high voltage warning sign. On a steam engine. Our impressive ability to predict a future appeared here xD
Wikipedia has a nice article on the PKP classification system which just shows how wrong this one has been numbered
O means mixed/stopping train traffic
i means 2-6-0 or 0-6-2
2 means German or Prussian origin steam engine
if they had used "b" instead of "i" then that would have at least meant a 0-4-0 . However I cannot find an Ob2 engine and Wiki doesn't list any either.
That's very interesting - so it's totally wrong then? Although Oi2 matches the loco I googled!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Not a german enthusiast but the loco shell is most likely a BR 80
1:06 you look kinda like a pilgrim from thanksgiving
haha!! xD
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Probably can't say that either🙂
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@@alanlansdell7533 Yeah that's true actually - get away from here Ert, you're cancelled my friend!
When I saw the word cheap I just knew it's time for El cheap o
Correction: the used but improved El cheapo
haha absolutely!! ;D
My very first locomotive was just like this my dad bought it in the late 80's or early 90's (it's an ancient PIKO design that really hasn't changed a bit through the decades some early ones where made with steel frames and 9V motors also there's an other type made with the exact same frame and running gear that's a tank locomotive without the tender hence the holes for the buffers at the back, older ones where fitted with better quality motors but they're all kinda loud) and ran it a lot then later gifted it to me in 2007 the bearing surfaces in the frame worn out once but we put little seel bushings into them, they might be cheaply made but they are basically indestructible. Also worth mentioning that they where mostly sold in sets and where basically the only models people could afford in the Eastern Block.
Thanks a lot for sharing - yes I'm told this is a PIKO one - I bet yours was much better quality, for sure!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@@SamsTrains Hi there, I'm probably very late to the party but I know those fairly well.
The piece you have is a sh*ttier version of already sh*tty PIKO 50501 (often marked as DB98 003, but I tend to believe there is no such thing in reality). It shares the same drivetrain with the PIKO 50500, which is loosely based on the real DB80 and here is the history behind that:
The series was started in about 1960's, but there was produced the "true" DB80 model with three axles, same body but different drivetrain and also a version for the startset (a toy basically). I don't know when they added the version with tender but in 1980's it already did exist. As the time went on, they simplified the drivetrain more into the one you have now. Nowadays you can only buy the "proper 3-axle" DB80 marketed as the DB80 and I believe those cheap ones do just carry the product code 50500 and 50501, but they are still based on the old DB80 toy 2-axle versions until now.
I had the old 2-axle DB80 made in 1970's as a kid and I bought exactly the same recently again, so I actually own the older smaller sister of the loco you have here, but the drivetrain with gears is basically the same. You may see it in my 2021 Xmas layout vlog and I can eventually provide you with some details for comparison.
Anyway, best regards form CZ! You do a great job with the cheap loco's reviews!
Just got my hands on two of the Chinese passenger cars that belong to this set. Interesting to see the difference in quality between the originals and Chinese version.
I would say that this train is inspired by the Polish train you Googled, but very loosely based on it. If you look at some of the "domes" (I don't know the proper name) they resemble those on that loco.
If so, the loco it is derived from was originally a German class 24 which stayed in Poland after the war and got renamed. It actually did get that unusual Oi2 classification and number 29 is actually in preservation in Poland.
There's even a Wikipedia page about it in English :
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/DRG_Class_24
PS: I'm glad you were able to give El Cheapo something to do during this troubling time.
Thanks a lot for the info - yes I bet you're right - there are similarities! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
It looks like a typical PIKO locomotive from a start set (fictitious type). Your model is in Polish State Railways (PKP) version and it has series of a real 2-6-0 tender locomotive (Oi2 ex german BR24). A set with this locomotive, 2 passanger cars and a track oval (PIKO Starterset 97933) at PIKO Webshop costs 78€ (ca. 70£) so I guess 44£ for just the loco isn't a good price.
The chassis is the same for the tender version and the tank engine from other PIKO Start sets (thats why there are holes for buffers on the rear). I think the tender is from the german BR55 locomotive (maybe little shortened)
Yes I think that's exactly right - everyone's been saying that! Thanks for sharing,
Cheers,
Sam :)
The front coupling makes the locomotive look like it's flipping you off. how fitting
The Q1 is the bad but good locomotive where’s my prize 😂
haha well spotted - send me an email, and I'll reply with your certificate! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
My Q1 was really good.
Was second hand but ran really well
The Q1 is my all-time favourite engine. It's big, ugly, and yet looks oddly futuristic. It also was a real workhorse that did everything asked of it.
@@brianartillery You should make it "Steampunk" by gluing some old watch gears to it and then painting it silver
I think he means bad looking locomotive
1:05 I couldn't stop laughing
haha! ;D
Thank you for changing El Cheapo. As a Latino American myself, while I wasn’t overly offended by the character, it’s nice not to have the stereotype of Latinx individuals on your channel. Well done! :)
Thank you! Glad you approve the change! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
A ridiculously shambolic costume slapped together from badly made components is perfect for this series.
haha, I certainly thought so! ;D
hi sam. I think you should be less defensive about this stereotype problem. like i don't think you're a bad person or anything, but it's not a good thing to get defensive about something when people are concerned that you're perpetuating harmful stereotypes. It's a step in the right direction to refit the bit, but it feels kind of hollow with the way you did it.
I’m sorry, I do feel defensive. It’s been an incredibly rough year, and there’s a lot of nasty stuff in the world. When people seek to remove jokes or comedy from context in order to call them offensive or ‘cancel’ them, I do feel defensive, because as the trend continues, everything becomes off-limits, and we’ll find that we can’t laugh at ourselves anymore. This will be (and has already been) disruptive to the entertainment industry that I love. Distinctions must be made between offensive material with dangerous, malicious intent, and harmless entertainment intended purely to amuse.
Not everyone has to feel as I do, and that’s a good thing. The fact that I disagree with the criticism here is perfectly acceptable too, though please recognise that I have now removed the character that was objected to.
@@SamsTrains this isn't about cancelling. this is about improving yourself so that you don't make the videos uncomfortable for some people. Comedy doesn't work in a vacuum. It's subjective. So that means what you think is funny might not be what others find funny, and if your audience doesn't like the joke, you're doing a bad job at relating to your audience.
the trouble is that you weren't really laughing at *yourself*, you're laughing at another racial/ethnic/national group of people. Regardless of the intent that's how it's perceived.
Also, I get it. We're all having a rough year. If you want to feel defensive then you're entitled to that. But we're grown ups here (albeit grown ups who like trains an awful lot, occasionally colorful talking ones), we don't have to show it.
The distinction you mention is a useful one, and it's why I don't think you're a bad person. But just because you didn't do something harmful on purpose doesn't mean it wasn't a bad thing to do.
I'm not really interested in continuing this back and forth, but I will say one last thing. It would be useful for you to consider why it's such a big deal that racist jokes are "off limits," why it's so important that you be able to make racist stereotypical jokes without criticism.
@@WhirligigGirl It's not about improving. It's about idiots like you trying to force others to capitulate to your evil, manipulative ideology wherein your made-up "offence" must be appeased at all times.
Sam wants to have a Mexican character based on the traditional stereotype. He can. And we can all laugh at it. Just as the Japanese laugh as the traditional American stereotype of a blond, war-crazed soldier and Americans frequently laugh at the British stereotype of a hat-wearing, tea-drinking Bond villain.
Don't pretend that you're a "grown up" when you're trying to condemn someone for not appealing to your insane, illiberal, authoritarian feelings.
@@MrJoeyWheeler not a liberal my guy.
imagine arguing in the youtube comments lmao.
Nice review, I’m glad you’ve changed El Cheapo.
Why? Does El Cheapo affect your life and the way you conduct yourself on a day to day basis? No? Didn't think so... shut up
@@insomniacbritgaming1632 well said
@@insomniacbritgaming1632 and everyone who got offended wasnt even mexican so it makes it more dumb
@@stepkneeboi exactly... half of these people would have an aneurysm if they heard half the stuff that came out of my mouth... I wonder how many Hispanics actually watch a British UA-camr whose focus is you trains...
@tiny table wargames Did the killing of George Floyd affect you personally? Probably not. Does that mean you shouldn’t care about systematic racism? Absolutely not. You dont need to be affected by an issue to take issue with it. If everyone thought like that, nothing would ever change.
Funny as always, will miss el cheapo. Could have pulled of Charley Chaplin with the tash and hat sam! :)
haha thanks Ashley, that's true, lol! ;D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
*Charley Cheaplin
0:42 10/10 singing
El Cheapo looks even more of an El Cheapo, we shall calm him El Trasho (Trash Hole)! 😂
1:06 proves my point
haha, how very insensitive of you! I'll have to ask him ;)
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
8:02
Sam:no way for the driver and fireman to get in
Me, an american:DUKES OF HAZARD, GO TIME!
From a distance, it looks like a Marklin or Fleischmann model.
haha yeah... and then you move closer.... ;D
Yeah I was thinking that it was a recast of a proper model but they didn't have any better chassis to put it on...
You absoutely PWNED Twitter. Excellent review, great work.
haha thanks mate! :D
look like somthink from the snowden railway with the cogs lol
haha yeah it does a bit!! xD
@@SamsTrains just as i am watching i though the same as you. would you like a lump hammer lol
Sam to the 1361 class: "It makes the loco look like it's suffering and that brings me joy."
This video is making me laugh left, right and centre.
haha glad to hear that!! I hope it brought you joy too ;)
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Oi! This was probably the most HILARIOUS Episode I've watched! Between El Hobo Cheapo, Oi as part of the Running Number, The Death Rattle, and the Thomas the Tank-Like horrid crash at 17:42 the Engine was worth the 44 quid you paid just for the laughs, the Heljan 1361 was the icing on the cake XD "one day folks... one day". The Engine that looks clapped out and junky yet is actually quite good in my opinion would be that Elderly Looking Diecast GWR Mogul at 21:26. Just because she's old and knackered looking doesn't mean she's not a good old girl underneath! I've had many old Brass engines that ran better than they had any right to. Cheers mate, got a good laugh out of this one!
haha really glad you liked it! Yeah I agree it was definitely worth the money, lol! ;D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@@SamsTrains Quick question mate, have you considered reviewing any of Hornby's live steam models of the A-3's and A-4's? Or Considered purchasing an O-gauge Live Steam Loco like a Mamod or Accucraft model for your O gauge Branch? Would be interesting to see you review a legit live steam loco, the price of some of these HO Scale Engines is comparable to a Mamod!
IT'S THE Q1 IN THE BACKGROUND!!!!
Well spotted - that's the one!! :D
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Good old El Cheapo he brings a smile to my face!
Glad to hear that Jack! :D
It wasnt kids on twitter it was full grown adults who are right. Theres no need to keep pedalling tired out stereotypes in this day and age.
Honestly el cheapo annoyed me when it first turned up but Honestly this snarky response has rubbed me up the wrong way even more :(
Yes its good to have fun and i love seeing your cheap and nasty reviews but the whole el cheapo thing really doesn't add anything.
I normally love your wit and sarcasm especially when roasting companies but the first few mins of this have Honestly left me feeling disappointed.
Can we all move forward and just leave the el cheapo character behind us? Full steam ahead and on to more great future vids! ❤
The majority of the accounts I looked at were around 15 years of age. Some of whom persisted in posting irrelevant images out of context in order to falsly push the narrative that I'm racist. The rest, rather than just not watching content they didn’t like, as an adult would, fought to try and ‘cancel’ it. Their age combined with their behaviour led me to the conclusion: children. As for being right, it was a subjective discussion - nobody is right and nobody is wrong. They felt El-cheapo was offensive, I did not. People are allowed to disagree.
I approached the response the same way I do anything - through humour - but let it be known that I made changes, even though I didn't think they were necessary, because I do not want to offend people, and that matters to me. I'm sorry if it came across as snarky, but be reminded that I didn't agree with those assertions for reasons I've previously explained.
Please don't feel disappointed - like all of my skits, they're designed to be meaningless. Don't waste your energy worrying or getting upset about this - try to read it as it was intended!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
It may look horrible but it runs better than some mainstream very expensive locos but to be honest it was originally made as a kids toy and someone on Ali express is selling them as proper models. So really I thought the score a bit harsh.
Yes, jokes aside that's very true, lol! ;D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
El chepo at its best sam, 40 quid for a tender and 4 quid for a loco 😂
haha thanks Ciaran, absolutely! :D
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I've missed El Cheapo!!!
Me too :(
El Cheapo was a highly offensive stereotype towards the Hispanic community. Me and other members of this community were rightly outraged by this stereotype. Sure some may be ok with it but no matter how you look at it is a harmful stereotype that Sam refuses to take seriously
@@bigmac342 I disagree, I understand why you would be upset, but you must understand the this is a joke its ment to be humorous. There are stereotypes for all thing living and non living. For Example: there are stereotypes for Chinese products, stereotypes for pitbulls, stereotypes about British people not being able to say Certain Syllables, Just to name a few stereotypes. They exist in everything because that's just the way people are. The thing is at the end of the day I don't get offended by the el cheapo thing because I can take a joke and I can see the humorin it. This channel is about model/toy trains and we are all hear to have fun. But In my opinion the most offensive thing about it is how cringy it is lol
Regards
Adam
@@adamrivera3327 look I get that but I just hate how Sam doesn’t understand why some would be upset. I would be fine if he just apologized and moved on. Hell I wasn’t even that upset when I first saw el cheapo but the way he handled it is what I had a promotion with. Instead of handling this real issue seriously he just says everyone else is to blame since they can’t take a joke. Also telling someone to take a joke is a bit offensive. Everyone has a right to be offended by something.
@@bigmac342 Shut up you bloody idiot.
El Cheapo seems to have migrated over here to become an English Gentleman!
I don't think that the old intro was offensive in any way, I quite enjoyed his exotic character, but the new one is very good too!
Yes - I was very surprised when he arrived! Of course it wasn't - but I don't want to upset anyone! ;D
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Heljan seem like they make actually good locomotives compared to this on also Like El cheapo-Ben
haha that's true actually!! ;D
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Between Sam's funny quips and the kooky cheap trains all I can say is...😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣😅 Entertaining as always!
haha very glad you enjoyed it! :D
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It looks pretty much like one of the piko starterset locos, but mine is a tank engine, has a running number and is from the reichsbahn.
Yes I think you're right - if you google Piko 0-4-0, this comes up! :D
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Please bring back old el cheapo he was more funny
haha, I wish I could - the new guy is a real weirdo :/
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This locomotive is from the Piko Hobby range, you can get them from some UK model shops like gaugemaster for £40, with a tank engine version for £35. Pretty cheap for German stuff tbh, this is their equivalent of Hornby's Smokey Joe basically. Seeing as this one is unboxed I'm guessing the seller split it from a train set or it's possibly even direct from factory for some reason given it's Ali Express. Also shows that Aii Express isn't always cheaper.
Thanks Scott - uh oh, so I overpaid then? lol! ;D
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I wasnt expecting that animated guy talking in a slight Italian voice with a mustache and hat and the fact you make it sound like the funniest stuff ever with the pancho i forgot what you call the hat you cut into a top hat heheh
I showed my young son this train and told him if he doesn't behave this is what he will be getting for Xmas. . . .Lol.
haha perfect!! So this does have a purpose after all! xD
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It's from a Piko start set . I have the same Lokomotive as a tank engine since i was 5. And it's still running after 15 years
Yeah I've heard that - thanks a lot for the info! :D
Merry Christmas,
Sam :)
I have a Hornby Class 08 Diesel from the “Mixed Traffic” DCC set that wobbles like that 1361. I believe it had been dropped at some time before I purchased it as one set of wheels appears to have a slightly miss aligned axle. Mind you, I bought the whole set “new” from a dealer
Oh really?? I reckon you're right - got to have been dropped!
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Sam, you made me laugh for almost the whole video.
haha glad to hear that! ;D
I actually had this train back when I was high school and I got it as a set with 2 passenger cars and track (no controller) for $30 US but this was almost 20 years ago. It didn’t make near as much noise at that you have there. I also remember the brand being PIKO actually. They make other German style trains that are waaaaaay more realistic than this one I can tell you that. I ended trading it for some other odds and ends at my local railroad museum. From what I remember it didn’t stay long there so someone has it and is enjoying I hope. I have a ROCO 2-10-0 decapod that my dad and I modeled to make it look like a war train with weathering and sandbags on the engine. That one is a much better runner I can say that for a fact.
Very cool!! That's what others have said - this is PIKO apparently!
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Aliexpress: our models are noice and have a good price
Us: YOU DONE THE VERY THING YOU SWORE TO NOT DO
haha!! xD
I'd say that this is a copy of East German Piko Junior locomotive, which also lacked true prototype. I had something like this, except it did not have tender, it was so called tank locomotive, also with two axles. But thos type was also available from Piko in Junior series.