Those two need to lose their license. Putting themselves at risk. Passengers at risk. Other road users at risk and possibly causing massive disruption to a major road. Pathetic that grown adults behave in such fashion.
@@fburton8 generally they would if the footage got sent to them within 10 days of the incident. Was quite bad though especially when the Audi guy swerved in front of the Corsa. I think the passenger in the golf was just stirring up the driver to continue behaving horrible
@@fburton8 Most likely just a default date. They were also apparently cruising along at 0mph... I know UK motorways can be carparks sometimes, but I don't think they were stationary in this clip.
Happened to me once on a road in Ireland. Slow driver holding up a long line of traffic by driving too close to a truck but not letting anyone else overtake from behind. Not able to overtake himself because of an underpowered car. I had to pull into to a service station for 20 minutes to calm down rather than continue in the traffic line from hell. Always good to recognise pressure limitations in the driver as well as other limitations in your car or abilities. I believe taking the break to calm down saved my bacon that day.
True - most people are Apes with a thin veneer of civilisation. Imagine the water, electric and gas being turned off -people would be killing each other within hours
To me it's simple: both drivers should have been reported to the police and they both should lose their licenses. A nice, long anger management programme should be put in place for both of them upon successful completion of which they should be allowed to pass their driving tests again. What is worrying is that there are more and more 'drivers' like that on our roads.
Cocaine. I was told this by a policeman when a victim of such loutish behaviour. I speculated that the driver might have been drunk but the policeman thought it more likely coke or amphetamines or some other drug some men take when body building...causes irrational anger, paranoia and reactions like this. Avoid like the plague.
Good driving the avoid that without adding more danger to anyone else. Probably should have been hanging further back in hindsight, but hindsight is a wonderful thing
Some people drive audis by choice...(I didnt) I have owned two audis one in 1997 and one from 2014-16... I had to purchase those because it was the only car i could find with the finances i had available to me at the time and I needed transport quickly .and both were purchased from people I knew well... I suppose Audi drivers get a lot of bad press. .but then so do BMW drivers and the optional indicators 😀 ...in the 80s the joke amongst motorcycle riders were Volvo drivers...I treat a car as a domestic appliance ..its there to do a job not as a status symbol or fashion accessory..so my point is one shouldn't judge a person by the mode of transport ...there are good and bad in all forms of road transport
I've owned three Audis with no accidents, no points, no court appearances and no road rage whilst driving in a kind and considerate manner. I did encounter prejudicial behaviour towards me though. I think more people should find Ashley's video about the social hierarchy of what car you drive and take careful note.
There are bad drivers with every car, BMW, Audi, Ferrari you name it. Believe it or not the Audi drivers around my area are some of the calmest and smartest, for me its the Prius drivers, the amount of times I've had to slam my brakes because of them is ridiculous
Absolutely pathetic and juvenile behavior by both drivers. I've often wondered, if two drivers get into an accident due to this kind of road rage behavior, how on earth do they explain it to the police and insurance companies? I can only imagine how the police and insurance companies would react. As serious as this incident was I did get a bit of a chuckle when Ashley said "I'll speed it up to get to the juicy bit". You certainly have a way with words Ash! Stay safe everyone...and don't engauge in this type of behavior.
If everyone who acted like a fool on a motorway got a 10 year ban it'd certainly solve any and all congestion problems. I'll stick my neck out here and suggest you yourself might be grounded.
Even driving bans don't keep nutters off the road. They just flout the law and drive anyway then get caught up in high speed pursuits that endanger everyone again. There's just no respect from certain elements of society.
Because of the increased use of cocaine in Dublin I have learned to keep distances and NOT use the horn when being involved in near misses or stupid driving like this. People have been pulled from the cars and beaten up or rammed by angry drivers with criminal backgrounds and drugs either in their cars or having been taken by the driver. Cocaine makes a drunk driver look good in comparison. People get very psychotic and angry on the stuff.
I reckon they clipped the barrier getting back onto the motorway. Hopefully they did some damage too to pay for their idiocy. Both drivers should be banned for dangerous driving, period. Endangering the road for everyone around them.
I think it's about time judges were able to revoke driving licenses for life. No retest, no ban, just people who have comitted certain sorts of offences that demonstrate they cannot be trusted no longer being able to hold or obtain any valid driving license for any sort of vehicle. They should also be unable to purchase, register (as keeper), or insure any roadgoing vehicles.
That bridge has such a great view of the city. Feels like you’re driving on top of the world when you go over it. Shame it was spoiled by a pair of plonkers who are unable to appreciate the beauty.
Thanks Ashley, that was interesting to watch. I've always found driving on the M60 to be quite stressful, because of high traffic volumes and because of the number of junctions, including some that don't give much time for you to get into the required lane. Before the M60 was completed, I sometimes used to drive across the SE corner of Manchester, often filtering on my motorbike. Doing that sometimes seemed to trigger bad behaviour from the drivers that I was passing.
In my youth I confess that I have been involved in a fair few stupid Road Rages. Never on a multi lane carriageway though. Decades ago I stupidly went for a ride on someone's car bonnet in an attempt to stop them driving away having rammed my motorcycle...whilst I was still on it! The Police and the magistrate took a very dim view with regard the other driver. He wanted his case heard in Crown Court, he represented himself and got himself 12mnths jail for dangerous driving, 3mnths for criminal damage and 3mnths for common assault! I'm a bit more grown up now (read too old to fight) so I try not to get involved...usually!
Absolute insanity! That's well said about it being good to see other drivers having an awareness of it and reacting well. Something I've told my daughter on many occasions is that it's not enough to concentrate on your own performance, it's vital that you're focused on everyone else's in the vicinity because you just never know!
Tailgating is also classed as roadrage, the amount of people i see doing this on a daily basis is staggering. I travelled back home from work the other morning at 3am, me and 1 other vehicle on an A road 30mph speed limit with numerous speed cameras along the way, tailgating me, what a pillock.
Both new in 2016. Some owners of new German cars certainly seem to think the cash they spent means they own the road? Ash proves there are exceptions to the rule though, so we must not generalise too much!
@@SlaveToMyStomachI read somewhere on a force website that and footage submitted to police with intent of a possible prosecution must not have been previously shared on social media and must have a set amount of footage before and after the alleged incident... having never submitted footage myself I don't know the precise ruling on it ...I expect different forces have different rules
I remember a short while back I was at a merge point and began the zipper merging as I was taught. I merged in front of someone, I thought that was that. A little while later I’m going right at a mini round about when all of a sudden I see some lady darting across the centre of the round about trying to pull in front of me and nearly hitting my door. I slow down but she suddenly stops, as she realises she’s about to hit me. I think to myself perhaps she didn’t see me indicating, carry on. Then I realise she’s tailgating. I slow down as instructed to do to increase my gap from the car in front. Then I suddenly see her go for an overtake in a 20mph road, and pull back when she realises she’s heading straight towards somebody. After that I chose to just indicate to the side of the road and let her pass. I give her a round of applause and bid her fair well. She’s probably content that she got her own back and has shown me how boss like she is, I was content that myself and others didn’t die that day. The following week I bought a dash cam
That was utterly pathetic. Both drivers should have their license suspended, indefinitely. We do not need people like that on the road putting others at risk.
I don't understand why people drive like that. Relax, slowdown and we all get home alive and quicker. This is just a reflection of society today in the UK. It could well have been two people who support different sports teams wanting to fight each other for no other reason than a difference of opinion. So sad.
Lets be honest most of us have or will react badly to a road incident be it a minor one or a down right dangerous one. No one is perfect and we all have our tolerances and hence I moved closer to work so now am able to walk rather than taking my pride and joy up against the constant battles
If they’re both that angry with each other they should find somewhere to pull over and have a scrap. Sadly, it’s much easier to pretend you’re tough and stay in your car driving like a bellend.
Something to note about this pair - Based on the cammer's timestamp The VW is only 4 months old at this point and the Audi is 6 months old! These two are duelling with basically brand new cars at this point! It must be nice to have that much money to throw away.
You described the situation perfectly Ashley , Pathetic in every way and both drivers should be arrested for causing an obstruction and putting other motorists in danger.
@@clickrick From 1:43 to 2:45 he/she never overtook another vehicle. A fail in a driving test on any multi lane road. Is there an exception for cammers to hog the middle lane?
@@Seanmcdhuibhne Depends if they were alongside another vehicle at the time. Speed signs said 50, probably average speed zone so might have been travelling alongside another car with both at constant speeds
@@dopiaza2006 but not recommended to lane hog. @Robinho's Left Foot When camera switched around there were no vehicles in the driving lane to stop cammer from using it. People can look at it whatever way they want but the fact is from the time he moved into lane two he was lane hogging. Why did he move to lane two in the first place?
That’s gotta be illegal surly to create a rolling road block when not a member of the Police Service never mind their antics absolutely disgraceful to the both of them
Yep. According to the Highways Act (1980) "If a person, without lawful authority or excuse, in any way wilfully obstructs the free passage along a highway he is guilty of an offence and liable to a fine".
I see this all the time as I am an HGV driver! They are just total idiots!! It's amazing the amount of times I have been 'Brake Checked' by idiots like this! If they only thought what 44 tons of truck can do they might think twice!
Interesting, but something we see on a fairly regular basis. I always used to talk to clients about these types of situations and how to avoid them, because if you don't, you could end up the worst off!
I think, unfortunately, this is just a symptom of where society is at now. People must win their pyrrhic victory, whatever the cost. In the UK we have Brexiteers who just want Brexit whatever the cost or harm done to prove themselves right. We have those who preferred to remain who want Brexit to be disastrous simply to prove we should not have left. In the US, we all know what happened in Washington DC last week. Sometimes we need to recognise that life is too short to waste on such point scoring - and if we carry on like this, life is likely to end up being even shorter!
It's that merge that triggers everyone prior to the start of this video where it probably started I can't think right now but it's either the 61 Merge or the 602, probably the latter, but if people go that way, which loads do then the absolute carnage as the lanes all merge onto this stretch of the motorway and nobody can get in the correct lane, especially those who want to get on the 602 towards Salford and those coming over to go to the Trafford Centre
All the different causes of road rage tend to make the term itself an understatement most of the time. Because it's always the drivers who bend the rules that start it in the first place.
Both drivers need their licences revoked. Absolutely disgusting behaviour that cause a significant delay and risk to other drivers, especially the silver Vauxhall at 1:15. My guess is that they agreed to leave the motorway and settle their differences, but the white one had no intention of doing so and rejoined the motorway at the last second to make sure the red car was definitely committed to leaving the motorway.
That's why I haven't been driving on motorway, I still abit clumsy drive as I am new driver I get so much pressure I don't enjoy driving anymore because of road rage, but then since I put P pass plate things changed abit to better they just overtake me or wait behind me without them going crazy at me
I remember quite a few years ago, driving from Warrington to Leeds which took me along the M60, a little bit north of the junction with the M62. It was early in the morning on Christmas Day so the motorway was very quiet, almost empty in fact. There was a section where there's one of those long slip lanes that goes on to the motorway then off again after a mile or so. Naturally I stayed in the second lane because was the leftmost lane that wasn't the slip lane. I was doing a steady 70mph and a lady joined the motorway to my left who was also doing a steady 70mph indicating right trying to get into my lane. She was yelling at me, gesticulating and all sorts. Why she couldn't have slowed down a bit and joined behind me I do not know. She was eventually forced to do this when her lane started to run out, but she was really not happy. The way she was behaving was exactly as though I was deliberately speeding up and slowing down, stopping her joining the motorway, except of course I was not doing this.
There are some people who believe their car will blow up if they go one jot above 70mph. These creatures do not realise that we live in an approximate world and a variation of a few mph with good reason will be tolerated by the police. 2 options exist as you said: slow down and move in behind the car on the main stream lane. Speed up and get in ahead of the car on the main stream lane. Some people cannot make binary decisions and end up merging into the car causing it to brake suddenly to avoid a collision Also you have be aware of the type who will attempt to block you by speeding up suddenly to stop you merging ahead of them. Also it is preferable to drive briefly on the hard shoulder or buslane if the alternative is that you hit someone by coming out suddenly in blind panic at the end of an acceleration lane. I see clowns doing this everyday in rush hour traffic, more afraid of a bit of white paint and a minor rule than being hit by a car in the main roadway. This is especially dangerous with HGV's. People have been killed on Irish roads by pulling out in panic from hard shoulders into the path of a HGV.
I was once involved in an M4 altercation, and drove into a Bangladeshi fellow at Slough central, luckily I was in an old Land Rover, so no damage done.
Ah yes, as I say to my son, be careful, you never know who is driving next to you could be an Axe murderer, drug dealer, banned driver, no insurance, and the list goes on.
@@notroll1279 There seems to be a far higher percentage of aggressive drivers in VWs and Audis than any other brand (apart from maybe Kia, Land Rover and SEAT). I wouldn't say there's an even spread but that's just my experience
@@bluwusky5167 When I grew up in 1970s and 1980s Germany, BMW was the motoring idiot's favourite choice, mainly for lack of alternatives... Mercs were deemed too old fashioned and VW/Audi hadn't really made it to the circle of aspirational brands yet. I think now all of them try appeal to every type of driver - so the suicide squad can choose from the GTIs, S3/S4, Cupras, M badged beamers, AMGs ... just naming the German made or controlled options but not limiting it to them. I'm not grumbling or nostalgic - today, used car options are infinitely better than they were back then. Just saying that this scene could have been between lots of other car models as well....
At 1:18 looks like the Audi might have clipped the cammer too. I suspect (obvs this is conjecture so pinch of salt etc) the VW's junction switcheroo at the end was just to get rid of the Audi. Convince them they were going down the junction until it was too late for the Audi to follow them. A deescelation so they could check the damage, get their heads in order, etc. Pair of wham bars either way.
I had someone follow me for about 5 miles for a reasonI don't know!. He was tailgating me and driving dangerous. He was all over the road behind me. I was so scared and I had my 2 year old son in the back. My car had stickers on to say I have a baby on board but he wasn't bothered. I just hope one day Karma will get these people in shape of the police!
I myself have been I a situation a bit like this where I actually stopped on the hard shoulder and let the other car go on only to have them reverse there car about half a mile back towards us to carry on the argument and only drove off when we started recording them on my wife's mobile
Even when other drivers are in the wrong now if you flash them or beep your horn they react with extreme aggression, male and female, I've experienced this with a wide range of age groups as well and it's got to the point where I just accept other road users bad driving as much as I can because the consequences of reacting are not worth it. Roads Policing is an issue, forces have systematically withdrawn resources from Traffic over the years, they will always cite budget cuts but at the same time the Police have also relinquished many other duties that they used to perform, they no longer deal with parking, wide loads and many other issues that are now undertaken by civilian traffic officers. This all has an impact on the way in which people are behaving on the roads, just on an observational point I have seen local Police units completely ignore issues when driving in traffic, some times it's the Police themselves that are the worst drivers on the road.
I remember the days when if the polis saw you riding your pushbike on a pavement they'd stop you. One night a copper stopped me at 23.45 and reprimanded me citing the fact at if a child ran out onto the pavement I might hit them. Being on the backfoot I didn't want to point out the fact that you don't often find kids running out of their houses at a quarter to midnight and took it on the chin. I think that when society sees that it's perfectly okay to break lesser rules, they become more inclined to think it's okay to commit bigger crimes as they "grow" older
Judging by the video date (before anybody goes off about this - dashcam date stamps are normally wildly inaccurate) and the reg of the cars on the motorway, this did actually happen in 2016 which means that these two goons were both chancing ruining their new cars just because of (I'm going to guess) some minor incident. Ridiculous.
i think at least a driver awareness course for both maybe an extended retest especially VW driver, brake checking is very reckless not to mention stupid. also some anger management for both people in the VW
Brake check gone wrong, I suspect. Spot on analysis, something had definitely provoked this before we see the Audi for the first time. I wonder if any of your viewers has footage from earlier and further back.
That particular stretch seems to bring the red mist down on a lot of people; I don't know if it's the weird lanes for the Trafford Centre or maybe they're just plebs but I see a lot of craziness in them there parts.
Strange how people who are unwilling to damage their car posture as if with intent to do so, absolutely ridiculous. I have met 3 people in my life of 45 years of driving doing the same manoeuvres towards me, ended up the same in all incidents, both vehicles collide, I have no claims bonus protection, a £100 excess, a second vehicle to use, insurance rules equal fault, my car gets taken and repaired, has a complete valet and is delivered back to me looking better than before the incident, a result that I am quite happy with for £100 against someone who thought they could bully with their pride and joy and paid the price, their faces were a peach.
road rage just makes everything way more dangerous. If someone is feeling angry at all, the best and safest thing to do is to find a safe place to stop and just calm down
it's these type of people that would cause an accident and seriously hurt someone or worse but they would walk away without a scratch! what is this type of behaviour really worth! they should be reported for wreck less driving and hit with bans just by the fact that they put people's life's in danger!
I use that motorway all the time for work and its people who keep jumping lanes cutting people up that causes that. I have nearly been took out a few times because of it. I drive a coach and someone kept brake checking me because I undertook when they was lane hogging, which another guy got annoyed at the lane hogger and it got like this clip. All I done was back off put the hazards on to warn people and left them to it.
I would hope one of those drivers at the head of the rolling roadblock, had the sense to call the police (Hands Free, Of Course) to report the circumstances together with Reg numbers, Date, Time and approx location. Apparently, the police are acting on downloaded dashcam footage and the courts are dishing out heavy penalties for endangering other motorists on high speed carriageways.
I do not know the situation with illegal guns in the UK but in Dublin, Ireland drug use and dealing while driving is becoming quite common. I make it an iron rule not to get involved with any incident on the roads. Many people have had encounters with armed gang members and things can quickly escalate to a fight where knives or guns are used. Do not react to aggressive behaviour in such cases but in an extreme case get to the nearest police station for safety. There have been cases of thieves masquerading as plain clothes police who have stopped motorists and driven off in their cars, one such thief stopped a real cop and got done for his crime.
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Those two need to lose their license. Putting themselves at risk. Passengers at risk. Other road users at risk and possibly causing massive disruption to a major road.
Pathetic that grown adults behave in such fashion.
Would the police investigate and could they still be prosecuted after 4 years (assuming the timestamp on the dash cam recording is correct)?
@@fburton8 generally they would if the footage got sent to them within 10 days of the incident. Was quite bad though especially when the Audi guy swerved in front of the Corsa. I think the passenger in the golf was just stirring up the driver to continue behaving horrible
@@fburton8
Most likely just a default date. They were also apparently cruising along at 0mph... I know UK motorways can be carparks sometimes, but I don't think they were stationary in this clip.
@@fburton8 date is probably correct as it was when the smart motorway was being constructed there.
I firmly believe that if you are part of and contribute to a road rage incident you lose your licence, full stop.
'M60 Road Rage' is a much more serious problem in America
Is there an M60 in America? I thought guns kept road rage down in United States.
Brrrrrrap
@@keith6400 en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/M60_machine_gun
In case you really didn't know what an M60 was...
@@keith6400 an M60 is an American Machine gun
The gun or the battle tank?
This video reinforces a statement I came across back in the 1970s - Never underestimate the power of human stupidity.
Happened to me once on a road in Ireland. Slow driver holding up a long line of traffic by driving too close to a truck but not letting anyone else overtake from behind. Not able to overtake himself because of an underpowered car. I had to pull into to a service station for 20 minutes to calm down rather than continue in the traffic line from hell. Always good to recognise pressure limitations in the driver as well as other limitations in your car or abilities. I believe taking the break to calm down saved my bacon that day.
Interesting how we can be back in the jungle on a moments notice.
Well only one or two generations ago we were shooting at each other from trenches. So shouldn't come as a surprise. I do prefer the roadrage haha.
@@VlerkeDamne we were shooting back...
We are just animals with more technology JC Denton
Back in the jungle we never left lol
True - most people are Apes with a thin veneer of civilisation.
Imagine the water, electric and gas being turned off -people would be killing each other within hours
To me it's simple: both drivers should have been reported to the police and they both should lose their licenses. A nice, long anger management programme should be put in place for both of them upon successful completion of which they should be allowed to pass their driving tests again. What is worrying is that there are more and more 'drivers' like that on our roads.
Cocaine. I was told this by a policeman when a victim of such loutish behaviour. I speculated that the driver might have been drunk but the policeman thought it more likely coke or amphetamines or some other drug some men take when body building...causes irrational anger, paranoia and reactions like this. Avoid like the plague.
@@gszell91 In an ideal world that sh*t would never have happened in the first place.
Just 2 absolute idiots. What a save by the Vauxhall @1:16
And well done to all the other road users there for seeing the danger and hanging back.
Good driving the avoid that without adding more danger to anyone else. Probably should have been hanging further back in hindsight, but hindsight is a wonderful thing
I always hang back... Not to avoid the danger but to have a good laugh, and get it on video for the tube.
Amazing how dangerous situations can arise from acting like children
They are children.
"The first car involved in this incident is the red Audi"
Yep, sounds about right ✅
Not wrong there....... What do you call an AUDI driver in Court - "the accused"!....
@@makiwa “Guilty by default” maybe
Some people drive audis by choice...(I didnt)
I have owned two audis one in 1997 and one from 2014-16... I had to purchase those because it was the only car i could find with the finances i had available to me at the time and I needed transport quickly .and both were purchased from people I knew well... I suppose Audi drivers get a lot of bad press. .but then so do BMW drivers and the optional indicators 😀 ...in the 80s the joke amongst motorcycle riders were Volvo drivers...I treat a car as a domestic appliance ..its there to do a job not as a status symbol or fashion accessory..so my point is one shouldn't judge a person by the mode of transport ...there are good and bad in all forms of road transport
I've owned three Audis with no accidents, no points, no court appearances and no road rage whilst driving in a kind and considerate manner. I did encounter prejudicial behaviour towards me though. I think more people should find Ashley's video about the social hierarchy of what car you drive and take careful note.
There are bad drivers with every car, BMW, Audi, Ferrari you name it. Believe it or not the Audi drivers around my area are some of the calmest and smartest, for me its the Prius drivers, the amount of times I've had to slam my brakes because of them is ridiculous
0:29 “The Audi acts in a strange way”
Just a typical day then, nothing new here.
Absolutely pathetic and juvenile behavior by both drivers. I've often wondered, if two drivers get into an accident due to this kind of road rage behavior, how on earth do they explain it to the police and insurance companies? I can only imagine how the police and insurance companies would react.
As serious as this incident was I did get a bit of a chuckle when Ashley said "I'll speed it up to get to the juicy bit". You certainly have a way with words Ash!
Stay safe everyone...and don't engauge in this type of behavior.
100% agreed.
I think a 10 year ban on driving for both drivers and 100 hour community service clearing motorway rubbish for the golf passenger...
Yeah preferably starting by clearing rubbish in lane 3 !
If everyone who acted like a fool on a motorway got a 10 year ban it'd certainly solve any and all congestion problems. I'll stick my neck out here and suggest you yourself might be grounded.
Even driving bans don't keep nutters off the road. They just flout the law and drive anyway then get caught up in high speed pursuits that endanger everyone again. There's just no respect from certain elements of society.
I think they may be checking the front of the car after hitting the railing seen at 3:37 trying to get back onto the motorway.
Yep, it looks like they clipped the part of the barrier where it begins to slope up to its normal height.
Good spot, 3:23 you see him swerve sharply or glance off it.
Hopefully he or she did lots of damage and it costs them big time. It's the least they deserve.
Well spotted
Who angers you, Conquers you. Rule your mind or it will rule you.
Drivers like this are usually in the wrong mood before they even started their journeys.
Think it's called having a chip on your shoulder at the world!
Music also plays a massive part but it’s rarely considered.
@@amcv5407 music is like drugs
Because of the increased use of cocaine in Dublin I have learned to keep distances and NOT use the horn when being involved in near misses or stupid driving like this. People have been pulled from the cars and beaten up or rammed by angry drivers with criminal backgrounds and drugs either in their cars or having been taken by the driver. Cocaine makes a drunk driver look good in comparison. People get very psychotic and angry on the stuff.
@@jgdooley2003 Thats why I feel much more contented driving a large old jalopy.
I reckon they clipped the barrier getting back onto the motorway. Hopefully they did some damage too to pay for their idiocy. Both drivers should be banned for dangerous driving, period. Endangering the road for everyone around them.
I think it's about time judges were able to revoke driving licenses for life. No retest, no ban, just people who have comitted certain sorts of offences that demonstrate they cannot be trusted no longer being able to hold or obtain any valid driving license for any sort of vehicle.
They should also be unable to purchase, register (as keeper), or insure any roadgoing vehicles.
I really hope the driver of the video car reported it to the police who can take action and charge these 2 idiots with every available offence.
That bridge has such a great view of the city. Feels like you’re driving on top of the world when you go over it. Shame it was spoiled by a pair of plonkers who are unable to appreciate the beauty.
Thanks Ashley, that was interesting to watch. I've always found driving on the M60 to be quite stressful, because of high traffic volumes and because of the number of junctions, including some that don't give much time for you to get into the required lane.
Before the M60 was completed, I sometimes used to drive across the SE corner of Manchester, often filtering on my motorbike. Doing that sometimes seemed to trigger bad behaviour from the drivers that I was passing.
It's amazing how many cagers don't know that filtering is legal and safer for the rider.
It's almost one of the main reasons to commute on a bike!
There's never a copper when you want one.
In my youth I confess that I have been involved in a fair few stupid Road Rages. Never on a multi lane carriageway though.
Decades ago I stupidly went for a ride on someone's car bonnet in an attempt to stop them driving away having rammed my motorcycle...whilst I was still on it! The Police and the magistrate took a very dim view with regard the other driver. He wanted his case heard in Crown Court, he represented himself and got himself 12mnths jail for dangerous driving, 3mnths for criminal damage and 3mnths for common assault!
I'm a bit more grown up now (read too old to fight) so I try not to get involved...usually!
Absolute insanity! That's well said about it being good to see other drivers having an awareness of it and reacting well. Something I've told my daughter on many occasions is that it's not enough to concentrate on your own performance, it's vital that you're focused on everyone else's in the vicinity because you just never know!
Tailgating is also classed as roadrage, the amount of people i see doing this on a daily basis is staggering. I travelled back home from work the other morning at 3am, me and 1 other vehicle on an A road 30mph speed limit with numerous speed cameras along the way, tailgating me, what a pillock.
I always try to find a spot to pull over and let them go. I don't want them behind me at all if i can avoid it.
Curious how it’s two similar cars which lead me to think they have similar personalities
Yep. Both medium size German cars with small wieners driving them.
Good point.
Both new in 2016. Some owners of new German cars certainly seem to think the cash they spent means they own the road? Ash proves there are exceptions to the rule though, so we must not generalise too much!
Do you need to take a personality test before being allowed to buy a car
I think this is one of this things in life that I will never understand
I chuckled when you say 'numpties' lol. That's usually my reaction when I see road rage like this happening in front or behind me.
“Let us know what you think in the comments”
- I think this video needs sending to the police who may choose to prosecute them both.
Problem is now it's been on social media they may not peruse it ..I know our local force won't prosecute if it's been shared
@@colinclarke4285 I think they would prosecute in this case
@@colinclarke4285 Why would that be? Does sharing invalidate the video? Just curious.
@@SlaveToMyStomachI read somewhere on a force website that and footage submitted to police with intent of a possible prosecution must not have been previously shared on social media and must have a set amount of footage before and after the alleged incident... having never submitted footage myself I don't know the precise ruling on it ...I expect different forces have different rules
Mind you, the owner of the video, doesn't come out of it smelling of roses as he/she drives needlessly in the middle lane for no apparent reason.
I remember a short while back I was at a merge point and began the zipper merging as I was taught. I merged in front of someone, I thought that was that. A little while later I’m going right at a mini round about when all of a sudden I see some lady darting across the centre of the round about trying to pull in front of me and nearly hitting my door. I slow down but she suddenly stops, as she realises she’s about to hit me. I think to myself perhaps she didn’t see me indicating, carry on. Then I realise she’s tailgating. I slow down as instructed to do to increase my gap from the car in front. Then I suddenly see her go for an overtake in a 20mph road, and pull back when she realises she’s heading straight towards somebody. After that I chose to just indicate to the side of the road and let her pass. I give her a round of applause and bid her fair well. She’s probably content that she got her own back and has shown me how boss like she is, I was content that myself and others didn’t die that day. The following week I bought a dash cam
That was utterly pathetic. Both drivers should have their license suspended, indefinitely. We do not need people like that on the road putting others at risk.
I don't understand why people drive like that. Relax, slowdown and we all get home alive and quicker. This is just a reflection of society today in the UK. It could well have been two people who support different sports teams wanting to fight each other for no other reason than a difference of opinion. So sad.
Audi and Golf. No surprise there. Its always the same cars. BMWs, Mercedes, VW Golf, SEAT Leon is another one.
Add Ford boy racers
SEAT Leon? Are you kidding us?!
It's always the same cars [list of most car manufacturers on the road] 🤣
Just looks like a normal everyday trip down the M60.
I am sure there will have been calls to the plod, possibly dashcam footage sent in too. If anyone hears of action taken please post it here.
I’ve driven on that section of road many times. It’s a nightmare for traffic at the best of times without this sort of carry-on lol.
Lets be honest most of us have or will react badly to a road incident be it a minor one or a down right dangerous one.
No one is perfect and we all have our tolerances and hence I moved closer to work so now am able to walk rather than taking my pride and joy up against the constant battles
If they’re both that angry with each other they should find somewhere to pull over and have a scrap. Sadly, it’s much easier to pretend you’re tough and stay in your car driving like a bellend.
Ashley summed it up perfectly in two words 'two numpties'
(Sorry in advance to the spelling cops if I spelt numpties wrong)
Didn’t know toddlers were allowed to drive
Self driving cars will correct this human defect. I am looking forward to the future.
Something to note about this pair - Based on the cammer's timestamp The VW is only 4 months old at this point and the Audi is 6 months old! These two are duelling with basically brand new cars at this point! It must be nice to have that much money to throw away.
You described the situation perfectly Ashley , Pathetic in every way and both drivers should be arrested for causing an obstruction and putting other motorists in danger.
The cammer took up a nice positions, in the middle lane.😅
As we can tell further on, that was appropriate for the traffic that was ahead.
@@clickrick From 1:43 to 2:45 he/she never overtook another vehicle. A fail in a driving test on any multi lane road. Is there an exception for cammers to hog the middle lane?
@@Seanmcdhuibhne Depends if they were alongside another vehicle at the time. Speed signs said 50, probably average speed zone so might have been travelling alongside another car with both at constant speeds
@@Seanmcdhuibhne Average speed zone, it's recommended to stay in lane
@@dopiaza2006 but not recommended to lane hog.
@Robinho's Left Foot When camera switched around there were no vehicles in the driving lane to stop cammer from using it. People can look at it whatever way they want but the fact is from the time he moved into lane two he was lane hogging. Why did he move to lane two in the first place?
That’s gotta be illegal surly to create a rolling road block when not a member of the Police Service never mind their antics absolutely disgraceful to the both of them
Yep. According to the Highways Act (1980) "If a person, without lawful authority or excuse, in any way wilfully obstructs the free passage along a highway he is guilty of an offence and liable to a fine".
I see this all the time as I am an HGV driver! They are just total idiots!! It's amazing the amount of times I have been 'Brake Checked' by idiots like this! If they only thought what 44 tons of truck can do they might think twice!
btw. it's funny as essentially it's a red Golf vs a white Golf 🙃
Red golf is nicer though, white golf is poor mans red golf 😂 great comment👍🏾
LOL, or a red Skoda v a white Skoda!
Perhaps that was what the beef was about.
More like red vw v white vw. My claim for my audi’s emissions is against the VW group
The cars are cousins essentially both VAG so they should be supporting each other 🤣
Interesting, but something we see on a fairly regular basis. I always used to talk to clients about these types of situations and how to avoid them, because if you don't, you could end up the worst off!
Looks like both drivers injected too much testosterone that morning!
Both are victims of SPS (small penis syndrome)
Looked more like oestrogen to me...
@@donkmeister Agreed.
Real fighting men don't call each other names out of the windows, from the safety of their cars.
Pair of children.
An Audi driver exhibiting road rage, Who would have thought it!
We've all seen road rage but to create that scene in front of all the other cars is pretty remarkable!
I'd be surprised if there wasn't 30 cars behind them leaning on their horns. I don't care about your tantrums, I got shit to do
@@20thcenturygamer22 Yeah, it's surprising they didn't cause a chain reaction of rage...
WOW all those witnesses! Was this video shown to the police! I wonder how violent this would have been on a quiet road?
And show to their insurance companies.
I think, unfortunately, this is just a symptom of where society is at now. People must win their pyrrhic victory, whatever the cost.
In the UK we have Brexiteers who just want Brexit whatever the cost or harm done to prove themselves right.
We have those who preferred to remain who want Brexit to be disastrous simply to prove we should not have left.
In the US, we all know what happened in Washington DC last week.
Sometimes we need to recognise that life is too short to waste on such point scoring - and if we carry on like this, life is likely to end up being even shorter!
As the reg plates seem legible a prosecution for both drivers could be brought. But knowing GMP I doubt very much if they would bother.
Fantastic use of the word "numpties" 👏 😂😂
This was shown in the Manchester evening news in 2016.
It's that merge that triggers everyone prior to the start of this video where it probably started I can't think right now but it's either the 61 Merge or the 602, probably the latter, but if people go that way, which loads do then the absolute carnage as the lanes all merge onto this stretch of the motorway and nobody can get in the correct lane, especially those who want to get on the 602 towards Salford and those coming over to go to the Trafford Centre
I'd pass the footage on to the Police - and let them follow it up.
Far more educational would be for you to explain why the camera car is in lane two when the nearside is free.
Does make you think how silly we can be when we lose it and don’t think of the big picture! Better to lose the argument, far less stressful!
1:16
''wow can't see for sure''
The passenger in the grey Vauxhall suddenly looks to the right beyond the Audi.
All the different causes of road rage tend to make the term itself an understatement most of the time. Because it's always the drivers who bend the rules that start it in the first place.
Both drivers need their licences revoked. Absolutely disgusting behaviour that cause a significant delay and risk to other drivers, especially the silver Vauxhall at 1:15.
My guess is that they agreed to leave the motorway and settle their differences, but the white one had no intention of doing so and rejoined the motorway at the last second to make sure the red car was definitely committed to leaving the motorway.
That's why I haven't been driving on motorway, I still abit clumsy drive as I am new driver I get so much pressure I don't enjoy driving anymore because of road rage, but then since I put P pass plate things changed abit to better they just overtake me or wait behind me without them going crazy at me
They are probably late for their own funeral. Morons.
I remember quite a few years ago, driving from Warrington to Leeds which took me along the M60, a little bit north of the junction with the M62. It was early in the morning on Christmas Day so the motorway was very quiet, almost empty in fact. There was a section where there's one of those long slip lanes that goes on to the motorway then off again after a mile or so. Naturally I stayed in the second lane because was the leftmost lane that wasn't the slip lane. I was doing a steady 70mph and a lady joined the motorway to my left who was also doing a steady 70mph indicating right trying to get into my lane. She was yelling at me, gesticulating and all sorts. Why she couldn't have slowed down a bit and joined behind me I do not know. She was eventually forced to do this when her lane started to run out, but she was really not happy.
The way she was behaving was exactly as though I was deliberately speeding up and slowing down, stopping her joining the motorway, except of course I was not doing this.
There are some people who believe their car will blow up if they go one jot above 70mph. These creatures do not realise that we live in an approximate world and a variation of a few mph with good reason will be tolerated by the police.
2 options exist as you said: slow down and move in behind the car on the main stream lane. Speed up and get in ahead of the car on the main stream lane.
Some people cannot make binary decisions and end up merging into the car causing it to brake suddenly to avoid a collision
Also you have be aware of the type who will attempt to block you by speeding up suddenly to stop you merging ahead of them.
Also it is preferable to drive briefly on the hard shoulder or buslane if the alternative is that you hit someone by coming out suddenly in blind panic at the end of an acceleration lane. I see clowns doing this everyday in rush hour traffic, more afraid of a bit of white paint and a minor rule than being hit by a car in the main roadway. This is especially dangerous with HGV's. People have been killed on Irish roads by pulling out in panic from hard shoulders into the path of a HGV.
Clash of the ego's. Nothing to be gained but plenty to be lost when you can't curb your ego.
Im at the point where I just lile your videos before I've even watched 2 seconds of it 😂 love the content
I was once involved in an M4 altercation, and drove into a Bangladeshi fellow at Slough central, luckily I was in an old Land Rover, so no damage done.
Ah yes, as I say to my son, be careful, you never know who is driving next to you could be an Axe murderer, drug dealer, banned driver, no insurance, and the list goes on.
And Audi and a Golf having a fight... yeah, that sounds about right.
Why is that? I'm not into Volkswagen group myself - but aren't idiots spread across all brands (except for SAAB, of course 🤪) pretty evenly?
@@notroll1279 There seems to be a far higher percentage of aggressive drivers in VWs and Audis than any other brand (apart from maybe Kia, Land Rover and SEAT). I wouldn't say there's an even spread but that's just my experience
@@bluwusky5167 When I grew up in 1970s and 1980s Germany, BMW was the motoring idiot's favourite choice, mainly for lack of alternatives...
Mercs were deemed too old fashioned and VW/Audi hadn't really made it to the circle of aspirational brands yet.
I think now all of them try appeal to every type of driver - so the suicide squad can choose from the GTIs, S3/S4, Cupras, M badged beamers, AMGs ... just naming the German made or controlled options but not limiting it to them.
I'm not grumbling or nostalgic - today, used car options are infinitely better than they were back then. Just saying that this scene could have been between lots of other car models as well....
Still wondering why camera car is pissing about in the middle overtaking lane instead of being in lane one which is empty.
The passenger always make the situation worse than it already is
That clip was filmed in 2016 just so ppl know!...... I actually think he clips the metal barrier
perhaps they clipped the barrier as they went across the markings and that why they were looking at their front bumper.
This needs showing to the police with close ups of the registration plates. Both driving without due care to other road users
Drivers here in England always seem so argumentative. I love driving in Italy as everything is just so much more laid-back
Are you joking?! Italy is by far the worst place I have ever driven. It's like full-blown Mario Kart on those roads. Take your life into your hands.
@@skatanic76 Very true, they're lunatics. The French are the most considerate drivers in my opinion, from a bikers perspective.
You can't even use a pedestrian crossing in Italy. Naples anyway . . .
At 1:18 looks like the Audi might have clipped the cammer too.
I suspect (obvs this is conjecture so pinch of salt etc) the VW's junction switcheroo at the end was just to get rid of the Audi. Convince them they were going down the junction until it was too late for the Audi to follow them. A deescelation so they could check the damage, get their heads in order, etc.
Pair of wham bars either way.
I had someone follow me for about 5 miles for a reasonI don't know!. He was tailgating me and driving dangerous. He was all over the road behind me. I was so scared and I had my 2 year old son in the back. My car had stickers on to say I have a baby on board but he wasn't bothered. I just hope one day Karma will get these people in shape of the police!
I would like to know what the traffic police think...
“Oh look a donut” nom nom nom
Proves we are just animals with basic instincts when stress takes over.
AUDI tv advert, "send in the clowns, don't worry they're here".
Just seen this. I know it was 18 months ago but does anyone know if anyone was prosecuted or if the police were involved?
If ever a video needed to be sent to the road policing unit - this is it .
Know this area very well. Unfortunately this is far too common
I myself have been I a situation a bit like this where I actually stopped on the hard shoulder and let the other car go on only to have them reverse there car about half a mile back towards us to carry on the argument and only drove off when we started recording them on my wife's mobile
Even when other drivers are in the wrong now if you flash them or beep your horn they react with extreme aggression, male and female, I've experienced this with a wide range of age groups as well and it's got to the point where I just accept other road users bad driving as much as I can because the consequences of reacting are not worth it. Roads Policing is an issue, forces have systematically withdrawn resources from Traffic over the years, they will always cite budget cuts but at the same time the Police have also relinquished many other duties that they used to perform, they no longer deal with parking, wide loads and many other issues that are now undertaken by civilian traffic officers. This all has an impact on the way in which people are behaving on the roads, just on an observational point I have seen local Police units completely ignore issues when driving in traffic, some times it's the Police themselves that are the worst drivers on the road.
I remember the days when if the polis saw you riding your pushbike on a pavement they'd stop you. One night a copper stopped me at 23.45 and reprimanded me citing the fact at if a child ran out onto the pavement I might hit them.
Being on the backfoot I didn't want to point out the fact that you don't often find kids running out of their houses at a quarter to midnight and took it on the chin.
I think that when society sees that it's perfectly okay to break lesser rules, they become more inclined to think it's okay to commit bigger crimes as they "grow" older
Judging by the video date (before anybody goes off about this - dashcam date stamps are normally wildly inaccurate) and the reg of the cars on the motorway, this did actually happen in 2016 which means that these two goons were both chancing ruining their new cars just because of (I'm going to guess) some minor incident. Ridiculous.
Unbelievable behaviour from both drivers. Yet I know it happens. Impossible to overestimate driver stupidity.
i think at least a driver awareness course for both maybe an extended retest especially VW driver, brake checking is very reckless not to mention stupid. also some anger management for both people in the VW
That part of the M60 always has some sort of road rage as impatient people hate queuing so get mad if someone queue jumps even slightly
Brake check gone wrong, I suspect. Spot on analysis, something had definitely provoked this before we see the Audi for the first time. I wonder if any of your viewers has footage from earlier and further back.
That particular stretch seems to bring the red mist down on a lot of people; I don't know if it's the weird lanes for the Trafford Centre or maybe they're just plebs but I see a lot of craziness in them there parts.
This is just stupid, both driver's should get 6 penalty points and a £200 fine, minimum!
Both drivers should be suspended from driving.
It’s up to 11 points for dangerous driving
Strange how people who are unwilling to damage their car posture as if with intent to do so, absolutely ridiculous. I have met 3 people in my life of 45 years of driving doing the same manoeuvres towards me, ended up the same in all incidents, both vehicles collide, I have no claims bonus protection, a £100 excess, a second vehicle to use, insurance rules equal fault, my car gets taken and repaired, has a complete valet and is delivered back to me looking better than before the incident, a result that I am quite happy with for £100 against someone who thought they could bully with their pride and joy and paid the price, their faces were a peach.
road rage just makes everything way more dangerous. If someone is feeling angry at all, the best and safest thing to do is to find a safe place to stop and just calm down
You're totally right. The thing is, though, that angry people have lost their reason and don't identify that THEY have a problem.
Their road rage gives me road rage.
it's these type of people that would cause an accident and seriously hurt someone or worse but they would walk away without a scratch! what is this type of behaviour really worth! they should be reported for wreck less driving and hit with bans just by the fact that they put people's life's in danger!
I use that motorway all the time for work and its people who keep jumping lanes cutting people up that causes that.
I have nearly been took out a few times because of it.
I drive a coach and someone kept brake checking me because I undertook when they was lane hogging, which another guy got annoyed at the lane hogger and it got like this clip. All I done was back off put the hazards on to warn people and left them to it.
I call it the TEACHER OUT OF THE CLASS SYNDROME. No teacher in the class results in disorder. Equal's no police of the roads results in disorder.
I would hope one of those drivers at the head of the rolling roadblock, had the sense to call the police (Hands Free, Of Course) to report the circumstances together with Reg numbers, Date, Time and approx location. Apparently, the police are acting on downloaded dashcam footage and the courts are dishing out heavy penalties for endangering other motorists on high speed carriageways.
Irresponsibility to other road users safety should always be reported to the authorities.
Well spotted - being a pacifist with road rage is usually the best policy. Good commentary.
I do not know the situation with illegal guns in the UK but in Dublin, Ireland drug use and dealing while driving is becoming quite common. I make it an iron rule not to get involved with any incident on the roads. Many people have had encounters with armed gang members and things can quickly escalate to a fight where knives or guns are used. Do not react to aggressive behaviour in such cases but in an extreme case get to the nearest police station for safety.
There have been cases of thieves masquerading as plain clothes police who have stopped motorists and driven off in their cars, one such thief stopped a real cop and got done for his crime.