@@andrewtiwari5728 OnePlus -Faster charging and better battery -bigger storage and more ram for the price -Camera I would say it's not much of a difference, maybe on zoom level between the two -Samsung would have 1 or 2 years much software update but 90% of both of them are going to ask for change long before that anyway. -Display and sound even. -Build quality a bit better for Samsung for the extra IP rating and cleaner looks but a case would cover it anyway. So I would choose OnePlus just for the battery and charging speed, which for me at least are more important than the camera which it's not much of a difference lately between devices.
hey man I'd rather have these over pulling an Oppo on us and not releasing the phone globally, they're doing the whole smartphone world a favor with this phone, should pressurize Samsung, Google and Apple to innovate further or reduce prices. AI features are great and all but even Oneplus phones will have em with software update after a year or so. BBK companies have been on a roll lately, releasing banger after banger
@@marcochavanneI mean, it kinda ruins the point of cheap oneplus with the expensive 1tb option. Not to mention, the only reason you need that much is if you are an insane filmmaker or emulation user, and if you need that much, just get a proper camera or pc.
The only thing I know where wireless charging saved me from chunking one of my phones in the garbage was my USB c port stopped working on a phone so it wouldn't charge that way but the wireless charging allowed the phone to still be charged so I could still use it, so basically wireless charging to me is a great backup or a just in case scenario if something happens to a charging port. Great video as always Juan.
Same exact thing happened to me with a Nexus 5. I had cheapo wireless chargers everywhere. At home, work, even velcro'd to the center console in my car.
I went from the 10 Pro to the 11 and now im getting the 12. The battery life alone is worth the jump to either phone but the 12 gives u the features u have now like wireless charging and a bigger battery
The 10 pro is one of my favorite OnePlus phones. It has justad good camera hardware as the 12. Only thing you miss is the new cpu. If yoy have battery problems it costs like $20-$50 to replace it.
U have no idea how relatable i felt when u mentioned reg. that accidental screenshot when locking the op11. Oneplus really tried to polish these little things HW/SW wise in op12 this time❤
Just so damn hard to screenshot with the new layout. You can't take a screenshot with the buttons holding your phone with your right hand which I do 97% of the time
About charging cable / wireless: oh, yeah, totally agree. My Motorola Edge 30 Ultra charges from 0 to 100% in 23 minutes - to 85% in about 15 minutes (125w charger). I couldn't care less for wireless charging. PS: he can change wireless a lot fast if I ever use it (50w).
Video out 😮. Enough said. I really like what OnePlus is doing. They are the epitome of refinement of their product to fit specific solutions. The tweaks and refinement to the OS in multi-tasking really make "using the phone" better. Not enough OEMs focus on that (including that fruit company).
I've been languishing with a 6t thats on its last legs after years of very heavy use and abuse. The battery lasts about 2 hours, it constant freezes and suffers from app crashes, opening the camera takes up to a minute, and it's permanently stuck in silent mode. They are shipping in my country again so I finally ordered a 12 which should be arriving in 3 weeks or so. I can't wait!!
@@SomeGadgetGuy it arrived three weeks quicker than the delivery estimate said. It's fantastic! A huge upgrade over my 6t. Had to fiddle with settings to get it looking how I like, but now it's all set up it's an absolute dream to use. The battery is unreal. I'm still on 75% 14 hours after I unplugged it!
OP 11 over 12R. I had the 10. Loved the flat panel! Loved it! But the cameras were eh at best. The Hasselblad color science is worth it! If you're the type that doesn't take many pictures, then the 12R is going to be great!
I preordered the OnePlus 12 and I think I'm going to be absolutely bonkers for awhile. But I wish the back glass was Gorilla Glass Victus 2 like the front. Gorilla Glass 5 is getting old but it's fine. I do think the OnePlus 13 should copy the Samsung S24 Ultra and get a antiglare coating on the screen. Also, excellent video dude. You keep cranking out the best OnePlus content of all.
lol... damn it, this made me finally pull the trigger on a OnePlus 12. I've been with Samsung since 2018 (but my OnePlus 5T is what got me into the Android world) Thanks for not chasing the algorithm, your true, unfiltered opinions are what keep me coming back to your channel!
Is browsing the youtube app and some other apps still limited to only 60hz on the oneplus 12? Not smooth at all. I have a oneplus 11 and this has been a never ending issue.
At 9:14, how is that comparable to anything a pixel can do? Can you add a bokeh effect afterwards? Or move the subject of the image or even delete unwanted things from it and have AI auto fill the empty space? If not, its definitely an area that OP cant even hold a candle to Samsung or Google.
The best thing about these Chinese phones now is that they have everything but with a cheaper price and if you think that this is cheap now, wait next year I promise a lot of people will still consider this.
curious if the 12 has the same pixel stacking as the Open. Yes it may be the same kind of sensor with the 12 being 2mp higher.. but nowhere on Oneplus's website do they mention the 12 having pixel stacking capabilities like the Open does. Curious if the extra 2mp makes up for it not having the pixel stacking, or if it actually does have it. Not sure how that can be checked/tested, no info about it online.
The open and 12 don't use the same sensor, open uses LYT-T808, while the oneplus 12 uses LYT-808 (without the T). that means the open has a stacked sensor while OP12 doesn't
Hi Juan, did you enable the high performance setting in the battery area on the oneplus 12? The performance is restricted unless you update that setting, which allows the phone to fire on all cylinders.
The oneplus 7 pro is outdated now in a lot of ways, but if they made a spiritual successor I would buy it in a heartbeat. The pop up camera is the best thing they ever did and they dropped it the very next generation.
That's the situation though. I would MUCH rather have higher performing other parts, and I'll deal with the screen holepunch, than put those costs towards a motorized selfie I RARELY ever use outside video calls. It's a shame we can't support niche consumers better, as we'd have a LOT of other nice options for things like pop up selfie, and hardware keyboards, and gaming/multimedia features, but our phone tech review commentary always seems to dig directly to the lowest common denominator.
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Finally switching from OP7Pro (mentioned, i've smiled holding that 7Pro) i was searching when it comes to smartphones for a year now. And oneplus 12 did it for me. Finally
Random question: what does the back of the phone feel like? Is it anything like the black OP11? Or I wonder if the black version of the 12 will be like the 11 in that regard. I love how the back of the black OP11 feels, and was curious if the green 12 was a different texture or something similar. That's the one bit of information I can't seem to find anywhere. Excellent video, btw
Thank you for a wonderfully honest and logical review. I just suffered through a different reviewers "opinion" of the OnePlus 12 that took ALL of my patience just to watch to the end. I truly enjoy your logic and down-to-Earth sense of humor. 👍 I bought a OnePlus 12, even though I'm writing this on my beloved OnePlus 11, which I am keeping.. not trading in. 👍
I think more folks should keep a second phone as a back up and then use the older phone for trade ins. Just don't be like.me collecting a phone museum 😅
@@SomeGadgetGuy Yeah, me too! Nothing wrong with a phone museum either, my friend. I used my Motorola Edge Plus 2022 as a trade-in and received $170 for it at OnePlus. It was a gorgeous phone but it has lousy antennas so it didn't bother me a bit to give it up. I won't let go of my OP 11 though. I will keep it in the safe, wrapped in aluminum foil, in case of a CME.. or whatever. 😀
How does OP12 perform when taking pictures of twitchy people indoors? Like, little children? I feel I'm stuck with Pixel phones right now because I have a toddler and no other phones I've seen takes pictures of moving little humans as well as Pixels do. The way pixel boosts shutter speed when detecting humans moving has saved a lot of otherwise blurry photos for me. I have OP12 pre-ordered after seeing your impression on it, but I'm a bit wary on the little human photos
OP has a function of continuous shots when you hold the camera trigger, OP7 also has it If you want a new phone with a fast shutter, buy the Magic 6 PRO because it supposedly has the sharpest photos in motion already in the basic settings.
its interesting to hear you say that about software being heavy but still being palatable. so why did the public hate LG so much?? They had that issue for a while where the software bogged the phone now but by the Velvet I felt they really improved even from the G8 really
Honestly the SD8 gen 2 feels like the actual true successor to the SD865, what i felt to be the most stable and performant all rounder soc. I heard some reviewers mention the 8 gen 3 is indeed more powerful but draws more power and actually throttles down pretty hard. Reminds me of the apple bionic soc's that crush benchmarks but suck at sustained performance.
@@Drakewyrm right?? Could be 3 years even! The duds that i can recall were the 808 (did anyone say bootloops?) 810 (this thing ran HOT), 820/821 (half decent but ran pretty hot), 888, 8 gen 1 (iffy battery life due to Samsung foundry). Though in their defence the 835/845/855/865 were pretty okay ...
865 was just brilliant. Sustaining it's gpu workload without throttling was a sight to behold. The 8 gen 2 did actually live up. My all time favorite chip would be the 845 though. I still have my oneplus 6 with it. The 8 gen 3 looks to me that Qualcomm did not learn jack shit with the 888 and the 8 gen 1
@@jarjarbinks8954 totally agree. 8 gen 2 seems to be the true successor to the 865 and the 8 gen 3 seems to be a step backwards.. lets see how qc adjusts to apple's innovation coz qc has not been great at implementing new stuff. SD808/810 was their first leap to 64 bit cpu which was an utter failure. SD888/8 gen 1 was on a 4nm process on samsung coz apparently tsmc was fully booked for bionic. Also quite a failure. Based on previous patterns, QC will completely mess up the move to 3nm to compete with the A17 pro bionic.
I just recently got the 11th about a month almost before the 12th and I definitely agree the wireless charging thing while it is fast on the OnePlus is nowhere near as fast as popping the phone on a charging cable for literally 10 minutes to the point where I really don't miss the future all that much. I get all of the features out of my buds Pro 2 with the 11 and the phone handles gaming on stuff like genshin impact and star rail on Mac settings beautifully but it's still makes me wonder, would it be worth trading in the 11 and getting the 12 right now? Like do you think it would be worth spending the 400 bucks that I would still owe to upgrade to the 12 or do you honestly think the 11th is going to be perfectly fine, the temptation of getting the device during this limited window with 500 plus gigabytes of storage for the price of the 256 is very tempting but I just don't know if it's worth upgrading to the 12 if I would honestly never use wireless charging and I don't take photos that often.
My last OnePlus phone was the OP7P and I loved it! Only issue I had was the screen burnin I had after 2 years so upgraded to an oppo find X5 pro..... The OnePlus 12 looks like a good upgrade but the Vivo x100 pro also looks intriguing to me🤞I'm so stuck
I am going to continue to watch what OnePlus does with their phones, even though I retired my OP 7T Pro. I would love to learn OnePlus delivers better updates (and a lot more frequently). If they don't artificially keep the latest tools on the latest phones only and do better overall, I may give them another chance when I will change my current phone in 5 years time.
Sweet, thanks for the heads up Juan, that looks nice. For what it is my One+ Nord N200 5g has been a great Workhorse phone and I like it but I didn't realize I was going to be stuck with Android 12 and only security updates even though I bought it new @ T-Mobile / Metro PCS & I'm feeling like it's time to upgrade into something a bit nicer 😋 ..
I use my OnePlus 6T as a daily driver since it launched, so 5 years and a few months. The battery is not great anymore and so is the performance... so I'm totally gonna swap it for this OnePlus 12... the only thing I hate are the color options... like wtf is that? :D at least give us the white...
I have my S23 Ultra and other phones. I actually find that I’m more interested in the OnePlus 12 over the Galaxy S24 Ultra. I’m seriously considering getting the 12 over the S24U since unlike a lot of reviewers, I’ve seen nothing with the S24 Ultra to gush over.
@@fraghead9813 I've owned every Galaxy S flagship and Note flagship from inception and still have the S22 Ultra and S23 Ultra. I never said the OP 12 is better buddy. I said I'm more interested in it. My choice. You sir, are crazy 🤣
Same here. I will keep my S23 Ultra, and I'm certainly more interested in the OP 12 than the S24 Ultra. Specifically, since a lot of the S24 Ultra features will be available on the S23 Ultra at some point
So i recently bought the OnePlus 11.... Kinda wishing id waited for the 12 but overall ive veen happy. I had the 9pro abd the 11 is definitely an upgrade especially in the camera department
Just got the OP12 and I am blown away by its features! The IR blaster... awesome! The camera... awesome. The camera zoom...OUT OF THIS WORLD! I MEAN 120X!!!
I bought a pixel 8 pro, and amsatisfied with it. However, OP price point and storage. That alone is swaying me. I recently went on vacation to Nepal, did paragliding etc etc, took videos with my base 128gb model. I had delete old stuff to make room for the new. plus the cameras look great, might be saying goodbye to google really soon. Google followed the big two and might give up market share doing so.
Apple didn't condition people into having to charge their phone. What made me love wireless charging was when I got my galaxy s7 as my previous phone HTC m8 USB port stopped working so couldn't charge it. It's nice to have two ways to charge it. Be nicer if they went removable battery route but maybe the EU will make that happen one day.
I can relate for refusing to use a phone that doesn't have wireless charging, but it's not for battery anxiety. It's more for versatility. Since there is only one port, you can't use the port and charge without a lousy dongle.
The idea with OnePlus is that you aren't always charging. Just plug your headphones in and relax. You charged at home just before leaving as you were gathering your keys and stuff. That ten or fifteen minutes gives such a boost that it makes no sense to always be plugged in. I've had 3 OnePlus phones that quick charge. It's a game changer.
@@gmosc but having a wireless charger at my desk ensures I don't have to worry about topping up before I leave the house. Fast charging for me is only good on those rare occasions my phone was not charging and I need to leave my house soon. The past year there were two times when I needed fast charging. The 45watt I used for my s23u while not great got the job done.
@@ChristopherPoitras so you've never tried OnePlus charging? Samsung fast charging is not the same. I hope you try it some time. It also helps to know how they keep heat low (lower than wireless charging.) Heat is a major killer of battery life.
Op 12 is a great phone. The changes are really noticeable! But I bought OP 11 only 2 months ago, so I'll wate for op 13 or 14. I agree about the cameras. These days it is possible to hear lots of funny things...
It's funny I slow charge my OnePlus 11 on a older 5v charger. But somehow OnePlus manages to suck every drop of power from that slow charger and still charges it really fast. I do have the 80w charger, but I find, when I charge it fast, it drains faster, on slow charge it will stay at 100% most of the day. Like an iPhone.
Great video! Awesome phone but I really dislike the look of the phone. Looks like a counter top with a huge camera bump. Ended up getting the s24 ultra.
I just upgraded from my OP7 Pro to the OP Open and I'm really enjoying it so far. The OP12 is probably worth the upgrade IMO coming from the 7pro myself. Love the 7pro but it's dated enough to where if you're on the fence I'd do it.
Been following you for a decade and your unchanged advocacy for treating technology and advancements fairly by not blindly joining the marketing bandwagon is commendable! However despite your best efforts, we have lost gem of manufacturers like LG and HTC as a result of poor marketing and reviewing. The industry is no longer welcoming radical ideas and is dictated by two or 3 major players who control the marketplace and the media! Is this the end of an open marketplace?
I paid more for OnePlus 11 5G than I did on my preorder on OnePlus 12 with the Free upgrade to 16gb and 512gb. PLus 10% discount and OnePLus 11 Trade in.
"It doesn't feel like a compromise to reach a lower price". In Europe the phone costs 950 or 1000 Euros. Those are flagship prices and they come with flagship expectations.
OP totally dropped the ball on it's European pricing while simultaneously pricing the phone ridiculously low in North America and it's perplexing. The phone is still overpriced in Europe but would be fair if it had ip68 resistance. But if it were 799 euro it would be the greatest deal in phone history. Such a shame what could've been...
Having the ability to have separate work and personal with something like secure folder is the best implementation IMO. I don't want to have to make separate profiles and switch between them. That's keeping me on Samsung. Yes go ahead, make the jokes 😂
This was the review that finally convinced me to trade in my 14pro for the 12. I got 680 for it from Oneplus. Seems generous. No longer impressed with iphones.
Your enthusiasm backed by facts is gonna try to put some hurt on my wallet. This phone crosses a line. (Or two!) It will be the most expensive phone I have ever purchased (but my finances are up to it and I can afford a luxury purchase for myself). Also it will come before I've worn out my present phone. (I hate crossing that line :( though)
Yep, OP cameras have been really good for years and I would say in most scenarios it can beat Samsung and Apple by a mile. Most of the people are just lazy and camera should work just by point and click...
Oh no Juan. You're really selling the Oneplus 12 to me... As a long time Oneplus user who just jumped to a Pixel. I do agree, I miss A LOT of features that matters to me more than what this Pixel offers. It actually angers me that 5g is still blocked in my country. Even the cheapest low end Chinese brands have that on the get go... I dont really want to spend on a phone soon though, so I really hope Oneplus is in this sweet spot one or two years more so i can jump back.
Thank you on the charging portion. My open does adaptive charging so at night before i pass out so battery health stays great on that regard and my open lasts on battery life...in the rare instance i need a top up if im going out with my lady or the homies? I'd rather have 67 watt charging/super fast charging over wireless charging. I've heard the "but i dont have to plug anything up!" Or "my phone stays at a high level while working!" First of all...how lazy are y'all? And second of all? these folks are wondering why their battery health is at 87% after a year...probably because it's always sitting on a wireless charger.
@@DavidNgo86it doesn't, my OnePlus 9 pro after 3 years has 80% battery health and that's with constant fast charging, however I do use a qc charger as my bed side charger, but the dual cells ever since protects from the drawbacks of fast charging, infact it's the higher voltage charging from power delivery that hurts batteries, not the charging that OnePlus does which is pushing more amps at lower voltages, which contributes to lower battery and system heat.
@@DavidNgo86 it doesn't. Heat is what can wear a battery out. One plus puts all the heat in the cable and the brick itself. Couple that with adaptive charging and you have a battery that lasts longer. Touch the back of your phone after you wirelessly charge it and what do you feel? Heat. From a coil that takes up more space and rests on top of the battery.
The Oneplus 12 would be the perfect cheap flagship in the market if they used a great screen, no this shit of BOE, the screens of this brand are absolutely bad cause it changes the colors in high brigthness and the screen can get burned very fast, or can get purple and green lines
I notice alot of reviewers comparing the One Plus 12 to the S24 Ultra and not comparing it to the Plus.
If they compare it to the Samsung s24 plus it's a lost fight from start that's all .
@@kedvesionutmarian8593 for the Samsung or OP?
@@andrewtiwari5728 OnePlus -Faster charging and better battery
-bigger storage and more ram
for the price
-Camera I would say it's not much of a difference, maybe on zoom level between the two
-Samsung would have 1 or 2 years much software update but 90% of both of them are going to ask for change long before that anyway.
-Display and sound even.
-Build quality a bit better for Samsung for the extra IP rating and cleaner looks but a case would cover it anyway.
So I would choose OnePlus just for the battery and charging speed, which for me at least are more important than the camera which it's not much of a difference lately between devices.
@@kedvesionutmarian8593 OnePlus has a much better tele camera, btw
@@borshisme That's what I presume as well cuz not to much reviews on s24 plus to be shure
Its criminal they didnt bring the white oneplus 12 to international market
hey man I'd rather have these over pulling an Oppo on us and not releasing the phone globally, they're doing the whole smartphone world a favor with this phone, should pressurize Samsung, Google and Apple to innovate further or reduce prices. AI features are great and all but even Oneplus phones will have em with software update after a year or so.
BBK companies have been on a roll lately, releasing banger after banger
I'd be okay with it if we had the 1TB option.
That's my only complaint.
I completely agree I would have totally bought it in white.
@@marcochavanneI mean, it kinda ruins the point of cheap oneplus with the expensive 1tb option. Not to mention, the only reason you need that much is if you are an insane filmmaker or emulation user, and if you need that much, just get a proper camera or pc.
I sure D-Brand will have something to make OnePlus 12 white.
Still rocking my One+ 7 Pro with 100% screen for one more year.
What about cameras?
If you are not a power user then 5 years old phone is OK
I'm still uaing my oneplus 5, it was the lastest version when I bought it lol
2 days ago just exchanged my one plus 7 pro with one plus 12.
The only thing I know where wireless charging saved me from chunking one of my phones in the garbage was my USB c port stopped working on a phone so it wouldn't charge that way but the wireless charging allowed the phone to still be charged so I could still use it, so basically wireless charging to me is a great backup or a just in case scenario if something happens to a charging port. Great video as always Juan.
Same exact thing happened to me with a Nexus 5. I had cheapo wireless chargers everywhere. At home, work, even velcro'd to the center console in my car.
Juan, you are not helping me stay away from snagging a OP12 by sacrificing my 10Pro. Thank you for the amazing content.
I went from the 10 Pro to the 11 and now im getting the 12. The battery life alone is worth the jump to either phone but the 12 gives u the features u have now like wireless charging and a bigger battery
DUMP THAT 8GEN1!!! 😄
@@Sedp23 Getting a new phone every year is kinda stupid.
@@Sedp23 and next year there is a 13 that are bigger again..
The 10 pro is one of my favorite OnePlus phones. It has justad good camera hardware as the 12. Only thing you miss is the new cpu. If yoy have battery problems it costs like $20-$50 to replace it.
U have no idea how relatable i felt when u mentioned reg. that accidental screenshot when locking the op11. Oneplus really tried to polish these little things HW/SW wise in op12 this time❤
Just so damn hard to screenshot with the new layout. You can't take a screenshot with the buttons holding your phone with your right hand which I do 97% of the time
@@DRcatscratch yeah u need two hands if u want to get it with right hand.. but u also have Side bar to help
Yes. OnePlus 8 pro had no such issues. Why couldn't they do the same in op 11
How its compared the 11 with the 12R? That could be interesting?
About charging cable / wireless: oh, yeah, totally agree. My Motorola Edge 30 Ultra charges from 0 to 100% in 23 minutes - to 85% in about 15 minutes (125w charger). I couldn't care less for wireless charging.
PS: he can change wireless a lot fast if I ever use it (50w).
Video out 😮. Enough said. I really like what OnePlus is doing. They are the epitome of refinement of their product to fit specific solutions. The tweaks and refinement to the OS in multi-tasking really make "using the phone" better. Not enough OEMs focus on that (including that fruit company).
Wireless charging is a god send. I have had two phones where the usb port failed but I could keep using the phone via wireless charging!
I've been languishing with a 6t thats on its last legs after years of very heavy use and abuse. The battery lasts about 2 hours, it constant freezes and suffers from app crashes, opening the camera takes up to a minute, and it's permanently stuck in silent mode. They are shipping in my country again so I finally ordered a 12 which should be arriving in 3 weeks or so. I can't wait!!
Congrats on the new phone! My mom is on the 6T also. It might be time to upgrade her too 😁
@@SomeGadgetGuy it arrived three weeks quicker than the delivery estimate said.
It's fantastic! A huge upgrade over my 6t. Had to fiddle with settings to get it looking how I like, but now it's all set up it's an absolute dream to use. The battery is unreal. I'm still on 75% 14 hours after I unplugged it!
OP 11 over 12R. I had the 10. Loved the flat panel! Loved it! But the cameras were eh at best. The Hasselblad color science is worth it! If you're the type that doesn't take many pictures, then the 12R is going to be great!
I preordered the OnePlus 12 and I think I'm going to be absolutely bonkers for awhile. But I wish the back glass was Gorilla Glass Victus 2 like the front. Gorilla Glass 5 is getting old but it's fine. I do think the OnePlus 13 should copy the Samsung S24 Ultra and get a antiglare coating on the screen.
Also, excellent video dude. You keep cranking out the best OnePlus content of all.
Now, the question is, do I get the gen 2 in the 11 or in the 12r 🤔
You gotta do that comparison!
lol... damn it, this made me finally pull the trigger on a OnePlus 12.
I've been with Samsung since 2018 (but my OnePlus 5T is what got me into the Android world)
Thanks for not chasing the algorithm, your true, unfiltered opinions are what keep me coming back to your channel!
Is browsing the youtube app and some other apps still limited to only 60hz on the oneplus 12? Not smooth at all. I have a oneplus 11 and this has been a never ending issue.
It's true. I suffer with the same issue. It's not smooth on UA-cam. High performance mode fixes that but battery 🔋 life will drain faster.
You can go to screen HZ settings and you can specific choose which app to which HZ.
@@AliXalted Thanks man that fixed it.
At 9:14, how is that comparable to anything a pixel can do? Can you add a bokeh effect afterwards? Or move the subject of the image or even delete unwanted things from it and have AI auto fill the empty space? If not, its definitely an area that OP cant even hold a candle to Samsung or Google.
The best thing about these Chinese phones now is that they have everything but with a cheaper price and if you think that this is cheap now, wait next year I promise a lot of people will still consider this.
Noticeable improvements!
The only OP 11 vs 12 video I or you need to watch!
curious if the 12 has the same pixel stacking as the Open. Yes it may be the same kind of sensor with the 12 being 2mp higher.. but nowhere on Oneplus's website do they mention the 12 having pixel stacking capabilities like the Open does. Curious if the extra 2mp makes up for it not having the pixel stacking, or if it actually does have it. Not sure how that can be checked/tested, no info about it online.
The open and 12 don't use the same sensor, open uses LYT-T808, while the oneplus 12 uses LYT-808 (without the T). that means the open has a stacked sensor while OP12 doesn't
i like wireless charging because my oneplus 7 pro didnt have it, and evuntally my cord couldnt fit in the port.
Hi Juan, did you enable the high performance setting in the battery area on the oneplus 12? The performance is restricted unless you update that setting, which allows the phone to fire on all cylinders.
The oneplus 7 pro is outdated now in a lot of ways, but if they made a spiritual successor I would buy it in a heartbeat. The pop up camera is the best thing they ever did and they dropped it the very next generation.
If you make every component on the phone better, but you need to keep costs in check, the first thing to go would be motorized parts.
@@SomeGadgetGuy I understand that, and I get it's not easy. But it was just so good that I would that compromises elsewhere to keep the pop up camera.
That's the situation though. I would MUCH rather have higher performing other parts, and I'll deal with the screen holepunch, than put those costs towards a motorized selfie I RARELY ever use outside video calls.
It's a shame we can't support niche consumers better, as we'd have a LOT of other nice options for things like pop up selfie, and hardware keyboards, and gaming/multimedia features, but our phone tech review commentary always seems to dig directly to the lowest common denominator.
Finally switching from OP7Pro (mentioned, i've smiled holding that 7Pro) i was searching when it comes to smartphones for a year now. And oneplus 12 did it for me. Finally
Me also enjoy
Random question: what does the back of the phone feel like? Is it anything like the black OP11? Or I wonder if the black version of the 12 will be like the 11 in that regard.
I love how the back of the black OP11 feels, and was curious if the green 12 was a different texture or something similar. That's the one bit of information I can't seem to find anywhere.
Excellent video, btw
Thank you for a wonderfully honest and logical review. I just suffered through a different reviewers "opinion" of the OnePlus 12 that took ALL of my patience just to watch to the end. I truly enjoy your logic and down-to-Earth sense of humor. 👍 I bought a OnePlus 12, even though I'm writing this on my beloved OnePlus 11, which I am keeping.. not trading in. 👍
I think more folks should keep a second phone as a back up and then use the older phone for trade ins.
Just don't be like.me collecting a phone museum 😅
@@SomeGadgetGuy
Yeah, me too! Nothing wrong with a phone museum either, my friend. I used my Motorola Edge Plus 2022 as a trade-in and received $170 for it at OnePlus. It was a gorgeous phone but it has lousy antennas so it didn't bother me a bit to give it up. I won't let go of my OP 11 though. I will keep it in the safe, wrapped in aluminum foil, in case of a CME.. or whatever. 😀
Excellent video Juan. I have been impressed with the Open's cameras so I know I will enjoy the 12.
Do they send the wireless charger in the same package with the phone????
No company does that in the whole world. But you do get the wired 100W charger.
No, you have to purchase it separately.
Keep on rocking that Firefox browser!!!
I see no reason to stop now 😁
How does OP12 perform when taking pictures of twitchy people indoors? Like, little children? I feel I'm stuck with Pixel phones right now because I have a toddler and no other phones I've seen takes pictures of moving little humans as well as Pixels do. The way pixel boosts shutter speed when detecting humans moving has saved a lot of otherwise blurry photos for me. I have OP12 pre-ordered after seeing your impression on it, but I'm a bit wary on the little human photos
I just saw that there is an option to adjust the shutter speed on the 12. So it should be fine.
OP has a function of continuous shots when you hold the camera trigger, OP7 also has it
If you want a new phone with a fast shutter, buy the Magic 6 PRO because it supposedly has the sharpest photos in motion already in the basic settings.
its interesting to hear you say that about software being heavy but still being palatable. so why did the public hate LG so much?? They had that issue for a while where the software bogged the phone now but by the Velvet I felt they really improved even from the G8 really
Honestly the SD8 gen 2 feels like the actual true successor to the SD865, what i felt to be the most stable and performant all rounder soc. I heard some reviewers mention the 8 gen 3 is indeed more powerful but draws more power and actually throttles down pretty hard. Reminds me of the apple bionic soc's that crush benchmarks but suck at sustained performance.
Unfortunately it looks like Qualcomm only gets it right once every two years indeed...
@@Drakewyrm right?? Could be 3 years even! The duds that i can recall were the 808 (did anyone say bootloops?) 810 (this thing ran HOT), 820/821 (half decent but ran pretty hot), 888, 8 gen 1 (iffy battery life due to Samsung foundry). Though in their defence the 835/845/855/865 were pretty okay ...
@@Ezzy1989 not to mention Oreo is terrible on the 2016 flagships
865 was just brilliant. Sustaining it's gpu workload without throttling was a sight to behold. The 8 gen 2 did actually live up. My all time favorite chip would be the 845 though. I still have my oneplus 6 with it. The 8 gen 3 looks to me that Qualcomm did not learn jack shit with the 888 and the 8 gen 1
@@jarjarbinks8954 totally agree. 8 gen 2 seems to be the true successor to the 865 and the 8 gen 3 seems to be a step backwards.. lets see how qc adjusts to apple's innovation coz qc has not been great at implementing new stuff. SD808/810 was their first leap to 64 bit cpu which was an utter failure. SD888/8 gen 1 was on a 4nm process on samsung coz apparently tsmc was fully booked for bionic. Also quite a failure. Based on previous patterns, QC will completely mess up the move to 3nm to compete with the A17 pro bionic.
I just recently got the 11th about a month almost before the 12th and I definitely agree the wireless charging thing while it is fast on the OnePlus is nowhere near as fast as popping the phone on a charging cable for literally 10 minutes to the point where I really don't miss the future all that much. I get all of the features out of my buds Pro 2 with the 11 and the phone handles gaming on stuff like genshin impact and star rail on Mac settings beautifully but it's still makes me wonder, would it be worth trading in the 11 and getting the 12 right now? Like do you think it would be worth spending the 400 bucks that I would still owe to upgrade to the 12 or do you honestly think the 11th is going to be perfectly fine, the temptation of getting the device during this limited window with 500 plus gigabytes of storage for the price of the 256 is very tempting but I just don't know if it's worth upgrading to the 12 if I would honestly never use wireless charging and I don't take photos that often.
Stay with that bro, better wait for 13
WIll you be doing any reviews on the OnePlus 12R? How does that compare against the 11 or the 12? Thanks
if you want better features..go to op12..
if you wanna save money..op12r.
as simple as that😂
It’s basically the base version of the 12. You know, the same with Apple, Google, & Samsung.
My guess is the 12r is like an upgraded version of the one plus 11 and a notch below the oneplus 12
The 12r will have lower specs than the OP 11. Go with the 11.
Well I checked the specs and the OP11 has better specs than 12R
My last OnePlus phone was the OP7P and I loved it! Only issue I had was the screen burnin I had after 2 years so upgraded to an oppo find X5 pro..... The OnePlus 12 looks like a good upgrade but the Vivo x100 pro also looks intriguing to me🤞I'm so stuck
I am going to continue to watch what OnePlus does with their phones, even though I retired my OP 7T Pro. I would love to learn OnePlus delivers better updates (and a lot more frequently). If they don't artificially keep the latest tools on the latest phones only and do better overall, I may give them another chance when I will change my current phone in 5 years time.
I can create great photos in my LG G8...it's not the phone, it's the photographer's skill. Albeit lighting is always the key to good or bad photos.
For me, the return of USB3 with wired video out is enough for me to take the 12.
Just pre-ordered mine 8n the marble. Current phone is a pixel 7a
You are the goat my friend, the best detailed breakdown's in the game...👏🙌
Suprised you have Android 13 still on your OnePlus 11?
Sweet, thanks for the heads up Juan, that looks nice. For what it is my One+ Nord N200 5g has been a great Workhorse phone and I like it but I didn't realize I was going to be stuck with Android 12 and only security updates even though I bought it new @ T-Mobile / Metro PCS & I'm feeling like it's time to upgrade into something a bit nicer 😋 ..
I use my OnePlus 6T as a daily driver since it launched, so 5 years and a few months. The battery is not great anymore and so is the performance... so I'm totally gonna swap it for this OnePlus 12... the only thing I hate are the color options... like wtf is that? :D at least give us the white...
I find wireless charging on phones only useful to reverse-wireless charge bluetooth headphones
I really like what I have seen from Oneplus this go around, but I am having a hard time separating from my Xperia 1 V...
I have my S23 Ultra and other phones. I actually find that I’m more interested in the OnePlus 12 over the Galaxy S24 Ultra. I’m seriously considering getting the 12 over the S24U since unlike a lot of reviewers, I’ve seen nothing with the S24 Ultra to gush over.
You sir, are crazy
@@fraghead9813 I've owned every Galaxy S flagship and Note flagship from inception and still have the S22 Ultra and S23 Ultra. I never said the OP 12 is better buddy. I said I'm more interested in it. My choice. You sir, are crazy 🤣
Same here. I will keep my S23 Ultra, and I'm certainly more interested in the OP 12 than the S24 Ultra. Specifically, since a lot of the S24 Ultra features will be available on the S23 Ultra at some point
@@DeAtHvAnGeL you sirs are both crazy
@@fraghead9813 🤣🤣
So i recently bought the OnePlus 11.... Kinda wishing id waited for the 12 but overall ive veen happy. I had the 9pro abd the 11 is definitely an upgrade especially in the camera department
Just got the OP12 and I am blown away by its features! The IR blaster... awesome! The camera... awesome. The camera zoom...OUT OF THIS WORLD! I MEAN 120X!!!
I bought the black OnePlus 12. But I'd like to see a dark blue or even a burgundy option.
Bring back Thunder Purple!!!
I bought a pixel 8 pro, and amsatisfied with it. However, OP price point and storage. That alone is swaying me. I recently went on vacation to Nepal, did paragliding etc etc, took videos with my base 128gb model. I had delete old stuff to make room for the new. plus the cameras look great, might be saying goodbye to google really soon. Google followed the big two and might give up market share doing so.
Apple didn't condition people into having to charge their phone. What made me love wireless charging was when I got my galaxy s7 as my previous phone HTC m8 USB port stopped working so couldn't charge it. It's nice to have two ways to charge it. Be nicer if they went removable battery route but maybe the EU will make that happen one day.
Yeah not to mention it's better for your battery
I can relate for refusing to use a phone that doesn't have wireless charging, but it's not for battery anxiety. It's more for versatility. Since there is only one port, you can't use the port and charge without a lousy dongle.
The idea with OnePlus is that you aren't always charging. Just plug your headphones in and relax. You charged at home just before leaving as you were gathering your keys and stuff. That ten or fifteen minutes gives such a boost that it makes no sense to always be plugged in. I've had 3 OnePlus phones that quick charge. It's a game changer.
@@gmosc but having a wireless charger at my desk ensures I don't have to worry about topping up before I leave the house. Fast charging for me is only good on those rare occasions my phone was not charging and I need to leave my house soon.
The past year there were two times when I needed fast charging. The 45watt I used for my s23u while not great got the job done.
@@ChristopherPoitras so you've never tried OnePlus charging? Samsung fast charging is not the same. I hope you try it some time. It also helps to know how they keep heat low (lower than wireless charging.) Heat is a major killer of battery life.
The one plus 12 already looks like phone of the year, looks much better than the S24 ultra.
You sir are drunk as can be. That phone has a LOT of weird shortcomings and issues
Only thing with shortcomings here is your brain@@fraghead9813
It's a nice phone yet the S24 ultra shits all over it besides in gaming
@@zachmasters7397I hear dat super duper fast charging and battery capacity on those Samsung S24 Ultras is the best on the market.
So many Samsung knights in my thread LOL
Will you get the Oppo Find X7 Ultra?
You know. I had wireless charging on my lumia 920 in 2012. You know when nobody cared....its NOT a feature i use alot today.
Op 12 is a great phone. The changes are really noticeable! But I bought OP 11 only 2 months ago, so I'll wate for op 13 or 14. I agree about the cameras. These days it is possible to hear lots of funny things...
I was actually wrong.
It's funny I slow charge my OnePlus 11 on a older 5v charger. But somehow OnePlus manages to suck every drop of power from that slow charger and still charges it really fast. I do have the 80w charger, but I find, when I charge it fast, it drains faster, on slow charge it will stay at 100% most of the day. Like an iPhone.
using 1+ 11 and safe to say it's not worth the upgrade considering i don't game on the phone as well
Well, op11 is like a cheap midrange phone in comparison
I can't wait to get mine next week!!🔥👍💯
Congrats on the new phone!
OP12 is such a good deal. Not a “good for the price” no it’s a real flagship at a bargain price
Juan has me in an arm bar. If I was the fence before; I'm not anymore.
I need oneplus to fix do not disturb, other that been loving my OnePlus 12. Having regrets on not getting the green one after seeing more of it.
Juan has the Rec trilogy?! 👀👀⚡
I have all four. 👍
Always a brilliant take on any review.
Good review thanks
Great video! Awesome phone but I really dislike the look of the phone. Looks like a counter top with a huge camera bump. Ended up getting the s24 ultra.
The only thing stopping me from trading in my OP7 Pro for $160-ish is that I am outside the US. This looks really good but I don't need it.
I just upgraded from my OP7 Pro to the OP Open and I'm really enjoying it so far. The OP12 is probably worth the upgrade IMO coming from the 7pro myself. Love the 7pro but it's dated enough to where if you're on the fence I'd do it.
How do you manage the lack of SD card?
🔥🔥🔥. Thank you.
Been following you for a decade and your unchanged advocacy for treating technology and advancements fairly by not blindly joining the marketing bandwagon is commendable!
However despite your best efforts, we have lost gem of manufacturers like LG and HTC as a result of poor marketing and reviewing. The industry is no longer welcoming radical ideas and is dictated by two or 3 major players who control the marketplace and the media! Is this the end of an open marketplace?
Motorola is basically dead after Google ransacked them for patents.
Yes
Going from my OnePlus 9 to the 12 so looking forward to it 😅
I paid more for OnePlus 11 5G than I did on my preorder on OnePlus 12 with the Free upgrade to 16gb and 512gb. PLus 10% discount and OnePLus 11 Trade in.
"It doesn't feel like a compromise to reach a lower price". In Europe the phone costs 950 or 1000 Euros. Those are flagship prices and they come with flagship expectations.
OP totally dropped the ball on it's European pricing while simultaneously pricing the phone ridiculously low in North America and it's perplexing. The phone is still overpriced in Europe but would be fair if it had ip68 resistance. But if it were 799 euro it would be the greatest deal in phone history. Such a shame what could've been...
@@Mo-pt7bwit has ip68, but not officially. I saw the man was washing it under review and op12 was working great after)
Its rebranded to hyperOS now, no longer miui
I actually shot this BEFORE that update went live, but I covered it here ua-cam.com/video/tkS2w4otYSA/v-deo.html
Its different OS, not Rebranding)
Excellent review.
I actually like the Corning glass but I see your point
Finally had enough of my one plus 5t. It did a good job but the battery is now at the end of its lifetime. So excited for my New one plus 12
You're in for a NICE upgrade. 👍
@@SomeGadgetGuy thanks, your videos helped a lot with the decision
Having the ability to have separate work and personal with something like secure folder is the best implementation IMO. I don't want to have to make separate profiles and switch between them. That's keeping me on Samsung. Yes go ahead, make the jokes 😂
This was the review that finally convinced me to trade in my 14pro for the 12. I got 680 for it from Oneplus. Seems generous. No longer impressed with iphones.
Your enthusiasm backed by facts is gonna try to put some hurt on my wallet.
This phone crosses a line. (Or two!)
It will be the most expensive phone I have ever purchased (but my finances are up to it and I can afford a luxury purchase for myself). Also it will come before I've worn out my present phone. (I hate crossing that line :( though)
Fantastic Review
I really like the OP12, personally feel like that it's the next best phone by OP after the 7 series.
There, I said it.
Glad to see this video via OnePlus 12😊❤
I can't wait for my OP 12. My 8T is just done.
Can't wait to buy my 12 in 2-3 months time when price comes down😩
Yep, OP cameras have been really good for years and I would say in most scenarios it can beat Samsung and Apple by a mile. Most of the people are just lazy and camera should work just by point and click...
Ordered oneplus 12 in 16/512 black. Current phone is pixel 8pro
Literally in the same boat. I go back and forth on whether or not I should keep my order.
I just switch from my 7pro to the open, love it so far so I know the 12 is going to be killer
Battery life alone will make u forget about Pixel
Going from the 14 pro max to the same 16/512 Black !
@brianmiranda6262 welcome to the dark side my friend 🙌
I legit don't know what Samsung is offering besides dex anymore
AI voodoo
Nothing
The best features a phone can offer, that's what.
I'm watching this from my 7t pro
I'm going for the 12
1+12 is significantly better than the 11
especially the camera
but for $200 less I went for the 11
Oh no Juan. You're really selling the Oneplus 12 to me...
As a long time Oneplus user who just jumped to a Pixel. I do agree, I miss A LOT of features that matters to me more than what this Pixel offers.
It actually angers me that 5g is still blocked in my country. Even the cheapest low end Chinese brands have that on the get go...
I dont really want to spend on a phone soon though, so I really hope Oneplus is in this sweet spot one or two years more so i can jump back.
Think i may be trading my P8P in for this phone.. I've always been a fan of OnePlus phones and software
The 8pro is 3 months old! Why did you decide to buy a new phone instead of waiting 3 months more ? Looks to me that you are just following the hype...
No way i would give up a p8p for OnePlus
Thank you on the charging portion. My open does adaptive charging so at night before i pass out so battery health stays great on that regard and my open lasts on battery life...in the rare instance i need a top up if im going out with my lady or the homies? I'd rather have 67 watt charging/super fast charging over wireless charging. I've heard the "but i dont have to plug anything up!" Or "my phone stays at a high level while working!" First of all...how lazy are y'all? And second of all? these folks are wondering why their battery health is at 87% after a year...probably because it's always sitting on a wireless charger.
Not really. Fast charging actually kills your battery
@@DavidNgo86it doesn't, my OnePlus 9 pro after 3 years has 80% battery health and that's with constant fast charging, however I do use a qc charger as my bed side charger, but the dual cells ever since protects from the drawbacks of fast charging, infact it's the higher voltage charging from power delivery that hurts batteries, not the charging that OnePlus does which is pushing more amps at lower voltages, which contributes to lower battery and system heat.
@@DavidNgo86 it doesn't. Heat is what can wear a battery out. One plus puts all the heat in the cable and the brick itself. Couple that with adaptive charging and you have a battery that lasts longer. Touch the back of your phone after you wirelessly charge it and what do you feel? Heat. From a coil that takes up more space and rests on top of the battery.
@@majtechtings trust me fast charging is bad .
@@alpha-gs2uz my S6 Edge bad battery due to fast charging
The Oneplus 12 would be the perfect cheap flagship in the market if they used a great screen, no this shit of BOE, the screens of this brand are absolutely bad cause it changes the colors in high brigthness and the screen can get burned very fast, or can get purple and green lines
review nord 3!
Tech reviewers on UA-cam act like they're frightened to do Pixel 8 Pro vs OnePlus 12 videos for some reason🤷
Wireless charging is so useless. Lets keep saying it until people understand.
The OnePlus 12r is more like a Nord 3 then it is an 11
Only apple has the gooder ux juan. Apple magic or something