I think Ange saying that the foundations of the club are fragile everywhere is absolute rubbish. If things are fragile everywhere then Ange should look at himself. After the initial 10 game run Ange has been insistent on playing his football even when we had all those injuries and suspensions it was the so called 2nd tier players like Davies and Royale who got us through many a tricky period. He didn't do them any favours by not adjusting his bloody - minded match set-up, leaving gaping holes at the back. We then waited patiently for our first team to heal and get back. Then everything was going to be alright. He got his favourites /prefered's back, but what happened, bugger all. In fact they played like shit. Apart from some individual brilliance there was no cohesion or anything resembling what the first 10 games showed us. Yet he still refused to help get results by setting up still with gaping holes at the back and saying all results were on him, and top 4 didn't matter, whilst we got smashed losing 4 games an a row. Now all of a sudden results do matter because he was being out coached by Pep. So it's nothing to do with his crap management, but the problems are systemic throughout the club. Throw the players and the fans under the bus. Ange is a bit slow on the uptake for me. Easy to be a hypocrite isn't it. Our forward line isn't working because he squeezes them up so tight, that they have nowhere to create. They have to play frantically, snatching at anything that comes their way. Also playing the daft halfway line defence is suicide. Ceding all the space to the opposition attackers. If it wasn't for our brilliant start and VDV. Cuti, and Vicario we would have been fighting off relegation. If ange was a good manager, using our player's strengths, and considering what the opposition's bring to the table we would have made top 4 easy. Never mind our now ridiculous goal difference. Look what Poch. is starting to do at Chelsea. Now there is a proper manager. COYS.
Very well said mate and a lot of good points made,personally I like ange and fans like me stuck by him when things weren't working out against liverpool,arsenal,Chelsea etc,after those games he talked about performances over wins,then gets frustrated when we play well but fans don't want us to win due to giving arsenal the league when were not really fighting for anything,I think we can be successful under him but he ends up contradicting himself a lot
As a Liverpool fan i agree the last time they won the league we heard "invincibles" like they were avengers for 10 years. Some still go on about it. If they won this year we would of been told about the win for another decade. Gunners are like the worst kind of football fans, half of them bloody support palace. Baffles me 😅lool
Yeah sort of like Liverpool's one league title in 30+ years. You'd think they won it 10 times in that time when you hear some Liverpool fans. Baffling. 😃 lool
For my two bobs worth, the dressing room has not been right for a few months, Madders and Son's body language has not been great. Much of the things that seem to upset him has been banter and gallows humour - that is football fans I am afraid. I think he has heard some of that humour from within the camp and outside the camp. He is a fine one to talk about wanting to win, with his comments on not that bothered about top 4 or champions league football, you can't have it both ways Ange !
Ange is 100% right..... u got your priorities wrong when you want your team to lose so that Arsenal couldn't be champ.......as a Spurs fans you always want your team to win no matter who you meet and beating Man City the top team is an achievement.....Arsenal has got to your brains and blood, a rivalry that leads to you happily losing your priority.
@@LilywhiteLane ....we miss CL by 2 points....if we had won against Man City which was a very close competitive match (by the way our fans did not back us up), we could have be in CL getting top 4.....it's ridiculous and absurd that a big portion of our fans put more priority in bragging rights and rivalry than winning a match against the best team in the world.....we should play to win no matter what the circumstances....Ange said "if you want to stop Arsenal winning trophy, then win it yourself". Now you may say what is the point of being in the champions league if we are not going to win......well, you never know who do we sign and how our team progress, there is always a chance, and a chance is better than no chance.
@@miktoh top 4 means nothing mate,got it a few few years ago and arsenal didn't,since then they've been fighting for titles and we've been finishing 8th and 5th,if we beat man city we mabye get ucl for a season and get knocked out early whilst arsenal rave on about us handing them the title for the next 20 years
@@LilywhiteLane ....that is a small or mid club mentality and mindset, hope you are happy staying there cause this is not me.....as long as we are in CL there is a chance that we may win it (Liverpool had tried many times there and at last they won it, Chelsea had tried every year and they finally won it, so is Man City and Man u).....Spurs should think and be like these big clubs cause we belong there....F__k Arsenal we will leave them behind....who knows, we may make big progress after this summer....but now no chance of winning CL cause we are not there. It may come to haunt us.
Putting riverally to one side, There's always Pride and progression, when you fight to win every game 🤔
Well said mate 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Yes Ange is right and should run as far away from Tottenham as he can.
I think Ange saying that the foundations of the club are fragile everywhere is absolute rubbish.
If things are fragile everywhere then Ange should look at himself. After the initial 10 game run Ange has been insistent on playing his football even when we had all those injuries and suspensions it was the so called 2nd tier players like Davies and Royale who got us through many a tricky period. He didn't do them any favours by not adjusting his bloody - minded match set-up, leaving gaping holes at the back.
We then waited patiently for our first team to heal and get back. Then everything was going to be alright.
He got his favourites /prefered's back, but what happened, bugger all. In fact they played like shit. Apart from some individual brilliance there was no cohesion or anything resembling what the first 10 games showed us. Yet he still refused to help get results by setting up still with gaping holes at the back and saying all results were on him, and top 4 didn't matter, whilst we got smashed losing 4 games an a row.
Now all of a sudden results do matter because he was being out coached by Pep.
So it's nothing to do with his crap management, but the problems are systemic throughout the club.
Throw the players and the fans under the bus. Ange is a bit slow on the uptake for me.
Easy to be a hypocrite isn't it.
Our forward line isn't working because he squeezes them up so tight, that they have nowhere to create. They have to play frantically, snatching at anything that comes their way.
Also playing the daft halfway line defence is suicide. Ceding all the space to the opposition attackers.
If it wasn't for our brilliant start and VDV. Cuti, and Vicario we would have been fighting off relegation.
If ange was a good manager, using our player's strengths, and considering what the opposition's bring to the table we would have made top 4 easy. Never mind our now ridiculous goal difference.
Look what Poch. is starting to do at Chelsea. Now there is a proper manager. COYS.
Very well said mate and a lot of good points made,personally I like ange and fans like me stuck by him when things weren't working out against liverpool,arsenal,Chelsea etc,after those games he talked about performances over wins,then gets frustrated when we play well but fans don't want us to win due to giving arsenal the league when were not really fighting for anything,I think we can be successful under him but he ends up contradicting himself a lot
More to it I think, mate. "Inside and outside" the club? "Last 48 hours"? Something's up with the board IMO.
As a Liverpool fan i agree the last time they won the league we heard "invincibles" like they were avengers for 10 years. Some still go on about it. If they won this year we would of been told about the win for another decade. Gunners are like the worst kind of football fans, half of them bloody support palace. Baffles me 😅lool
They are mate,glad they didn't do it,never would have hears the end of it😂
Yeah sort of like Liverpool's one league title in 30+ years.
You'd think they won it 10 times in that time when you hear some Liverpool fans.
Baffling. 😃 lool
When I read a brainless comment like that ,I could say it represents all Liverpool fans ,but that would be just as idiotic
For my two bobs worth, the dressing room has not been right for a few months, Madders and Son's body language has not been great. Much of the things that seem to upset him has been banter and gallows humour - that is football fans I am afraid. I think he has heard some of that humour from within the camp and outside the camp.
He is a fine one to talk about wanting to win, with his comments on not that bothered about top 4 or champions league football, you can't have it both ways Ange !
Ange is 100% right..... u got your priorities wrong when you want your team to lose so that Arsenal couldn't be champ.......as a Spurs fans you always want your team to win no matter who you meet and beating Man City the top team is an achievement.....Arsenal has got to your brains and blood, a rivalry that leads to you happily losing your priority.
We weren't fighting for anything mate
@@LilywhiteLane ....we miss CL by 2 points....if we had won against Man City which was a very close competitive match (by the way our fans did not back us up), we could have be in CL getting top 4.....it's ridiculous and absurd that a big portion of our fans put more priority in bragging rights and rivalry than winning a match against the best team in the world.....we should play to win no matter what the circumstances....Ange said "if you want to stop Arsenal winning trophy, then win it yourself".
Now you may say what is the point of being in the champions league if we are not going to win......well, you never know who do we sign and how our team progress, there is always a chance, and a chance is better than no chance.
@@miktoh top 4 means nothing mate,got it a few few years ago and arsenal didn't,since then they've been fighting for titles and we've been finishing 8th and 5th,if we beat man city we mabye get ucl for a season and get knocked out early whilst arsenal rave on about us handing them the title for the next 20 years
@miktoh plus got much more of a chance of winning europa and developing our youngsters
@@LilywhiteLane ....that is a small or mid club mentality and mindset, hope you are happy staying there cause this is not me.....as long as we are in CL there is a chance that we may win it (Liverpool had tried many times there and at last they won it, Chelsea had tried every year and they finally won it, so is Man City and Man u).....Spurs should think and be like these big clubs cause we belong there....F__k Arsenal we will leave them behind....who knows, we may make big progress after this summer....but now no chance of winning CL cause we are not there. It may come to haunt us.