What is the purpose of having a kid, when both are working 40+ hours a week, just to stay afloat. Our society focused on productivity, efficiency and money. This is exactly what we got. Now we are simply paying the price for it.
We didn't make the system like this and no we don't have to live with it, hopefully soon people will decide to come together. Together we are strong,you already know we are the numbers, that's why they want us so low and occupied
More leisure time would probably be the best thing for kids. Kids need constant supervision to be safe and to learn, but society says to just pay some shady company a boatload of money to handle that critical part for you.
@@IamAWESOME3980 not true, in medieval they had winter break and worked 150 days a year. Its nonsense and propaganda trying to convince you "you have better than them and live in best time of history" while pandemic happen and it was shown how much governments and corpos dont care about you. Its worse than in 2000 and people still shamelessly say its better? No its not its not even better than in history its actually the worst time in history to work and you dont anything to show for even though how much "more advanced" the world is right? Theres only poor the slaves and rich the slave owners and middle class is basically nonexistent.
@hallhv01 then why are they also looking to outlaw IVF fertilization treatments? I'd argue it's more about control and causing division amongst the masses based on cultural battles so we have no time to unite under the fact the oligarchy of America has created a class division that effects every single person outside thoughs who own capital.
One income is not enough to support a family anymore. People can't afford to stay home to take care of their children nor can they afford daycare. What did all these governments expect to happen?
@@samuelboucher1454The difference between then and now is the fact that newer generations have access to more education… We also live under a government that will harass parents in poverty with CPS. People also don’t have the freedom to be parents while slaving away at work to live paycheck to paycheck. And childcare eats away at most of your income. Oh yeah, and the government overturned Roe V Wade, so now women are afraid to get pregnant because healthcare providers can’t really help pregnant women in the case of complications and/pr emergencies… Basically, I bring all of this up to say that declining birth rates are a direct consequence of poor policies. Why would anyone want to raise a child into a system of wage slavery?
@@samuelboucher1454the difference is that having kids in the past improved their parents lives, either thru helping on the farm or having more time to enjoy together. Modern times, people just have to work and work to support their kids. There’s not much benefit for people of our time in first world countries, studies show it lowers happiness and definitely income, affecting life quality. Fix these issues and people will have more kids.
I grew up in a low-income household. While we never went without, we often struggled to keep a roof over our heads. That experience, along with being bullied for not having fancy things / clothes and mocked for our very poor house throughout my school years, shaped my belief that financial stability should come first before considering having children. Personal responsibility should be the top priority before bringing a child into the world. However, society is structured around ideas of 'productivity,' 'high performance,' and 'efficiency' - terms that drive people into a cycle of servitude. This system can trap those who might want children but have the foresight to understand they can't afford them. It's a harsh, inescapable cycle.
It’s the fault of the Federal Reserve banking cartels around the world that have effectively destroyed currencies across the globe. The masses in the world as a whole are getting poorer. If we lived in a more prosperous world more children would be able to be born. Stable money would lead to a general prosperity but the powers to be want to destroy the common man and push the world back into a neofeudal society.
It's been like that since the dawn of mankind. You're either pro or anti-human. Refusing to have children because "life's hard" seems pretty anti-human. I'd rather be alive than dead. Most people would agree.
@@Eddy_Stylez Wrong, it's the lack of true human connection that drives this. Japanese salarymen are one of the the best examples. They have to stay out way way past normal 9-5 workdays and between their insane overtime and abusing of caffeine they have a special word for "unaliving from overwork". Because of this they very little connection to their spouses and even less with their children. This made them realize that a family they never see isn't worth it. So they stopped marrying and many use AI Girlfriends Aps to give them a sense of connection. Is it incredibly sad? Yeah, and it is a warning sign of things to come? Also yeah, but it is anti-human? No, this feels much more human than most of the finger pointing I hear from Boomers and politicians.
@@Arc3752 Point taken. That's another contributing factor. In all honesty humans will always be having children, the birth rate will always fluctuate depending on environmental factors. It just seems bad now because social media allows us to hear about the reasons why people are choosing not to have children. Imagine what people thought back in the middle ages when quality of life was dramatically worse than it is today.
The ownership class in this country is shooting themselves in the foot by paying people such low wages. There is plenty of money for raising kids here in the US, but the rich would rather have a second yacht. This is the revenge of the working class refusing to bring another life into this world only to live paycheck to paycheck.
The ownership class doesn't need us. We're nothing to them. When they need new employees they bring in skilled programmers from India, nurses from the Philippines, manual labor from South America, etc...
It's not about the money it's about population control if it was actually about the money if it was actually about developing capital and Industry they wouldn't implement policies that directly hinder workplace productivity like discouraging remote work when statistically remote workers have higher rates of productivity relative to the amount of hours they work. They're trying to kill off as many people as possible because everyone's brainwashed into a cult and they don't even realize they're a part of it this cult believes that the world is going to end any day now this cult believes that the Earth will somehow end up a dead Planet because of human beings which is deeply narcissistic of us to think as a species that we're in some way inherently separate from nature in any way and it's even more ridiculously arrogant to think that we as a species can destroy the ecosystem of the entire planet when several mass extinctions couldn't even do that.
They’re already one step ahead of you I’m afraid, this is being solved by large amounts of migration to offset the birth rate decline. It’s a short term solution but it’s working.
Aside from financial reasons, we're living in an age where you can't just let your kids play outside or walk to a friend's house alone or even sit in the car while you pop into a grocery store for a minute or someone will call the cops. Kids don't get to stretch their wings, they're not socializing or functioning the way they used to, and parents are EXHAUSTED.
You can´t educate your unruly child in public without some childless adult filming and exposing you in social media calling juvenile officials to remove the children from you.
Nope. It's the lack of workforce competitors. They want 400 applicants to a job so they dont have to pay..... they also NEED consumers as well as war soilders. Military sign up is low as well.
As a younger female millennial, I can barely afford myself these days. Idk why anyone is shocked the birth rate is so low. Can't even go outside without spending $100. They've made it to where many women have to quit their jobs just because their whole check goes to childcare. I won't put myself in that situation.
@@Sabiqoon-w8y on beans and veggies only no. Vegan diets are expensive because you are going to run into nutrient deficiencies. Beans and veggies are not enough. Also your comment sounds like you are recommending that as a regular thing. You also have to eat so much more just to get enough calories. Do you know how much of veggies and beans you have to eat just to get enough calories? A cup of cooked pinto beans is 235 calories. You need 8.5 cups of beans dude. That is going to be the most calorie dense food you suggested
Poor people have kids all the time. It is interesting that the middle class chose not to have kids. (I am child free by choice and middle class) maybe humans don’t like to breed in captivity… and middle class is a nice way of saying “wage slave”.
@@CedarCream Yes, this is why I have chosen to not pursue parenthood. Current projections for our society aren't looking very hopeful. I don't feel comfortable having a child who's just going to suffer worse than myself because they'll have less than I do. I would have to better than even my parents in order to make parenthood work. Having children right now just doesn't feel like a priority. Not when we have massive environmental, political, and social issues that must be resolved first.
they also had to pay less, besides why hope when there is just despair for your children. I wouldn't want to live in the future, so why should I selfishly bring them into this world.
@@CedarCreamkids were also made to work from a young age. They did a basic education and could move out by the age of 18. Nowadays you HAVE to dupport xour kid through uni if they are supposed to have ANY chance of surviving. Being a carpenter isn't enough now.
Adults were adamant that irresponsible people having kids were ruining everything when i was growing up. They told us we'd ruin our lives by getting married too early and not focusing on school and career. I don't understand how people find anything about declining birth rates surprising.
Exactly. I was always brought up with the sentiment “Don’t be like [insert family friend name here]. She settled and punched out kids and that’s her life now. Go to university, get a profession and travel the world.” When I was younger, I totally didn’t see the beauty or joy in a simple life. Now, that is what I crave… funnily enough, having a family and a home is just as impossible as travelling the world on a low-wage profession haha. What have we done.
This! I wish more people would talk about this. I was raised hearing that all day long, and not even necessarily from my parents. From society at large, and just by the way girls in my high school were treated when they got pregnant or married really young. If we as a generation grew up internalizing this ofc there's less kids in the world 10-20 years later.
And if you do have a child, everyone around you will criticize your parenting, no matter what you do.. Also many neighborhoods aren't child friendly at all.
Not to mention, because bills, rent, and mortgages are crazy expensive, we barely have enough money to keep food on the table. Even multiple young adults are still living with their parents because they can not afford to buy a house because prices have skyrocketed, and yet the amount of money people get paid from their jobs is not even half the amount that is needed to keep a roof over their heads.
@@evanhughes1510 maybe you want to live the one life you have on this planet at the behest of others, but it’s not for everyone. Personally, I just want peace and quiet. And that will be impossible with kids.
@evanhughes1510 If you want to be stressed out with nagging annoying kids then do that, but don’t be rude towards those of us that don’t want that for our lives
@@evanhughes1510you are acting like having children isn't also instinctual and impulsive. We are all animals, having or not having children doesn't make anyone better
Cyberpunks corpos ruin everything. They expect all the benefits of a new batch of laborers, as parents pay the price to make them. Profiteering of externatalities.
What's the point of having kids anymore? That's a genuine question that I have. Bots and A.I are gonna be running everything in the future. So there's no gonna be any jobs 10 years from now. What's the point of having kids anymore? 🤔❓
@@Draconiangemyes and men are not just sperm donors. We live in a time when people have realized that they do not have to blindly follow tradition they can live their own way. Besides the cost of living is absurdly expensive couples cannot afford for one parent to stay at home to take care of the child
Exactly this! Finally someone said it too. We can choose not dedicating at least 18 yrs of taking care of others from our life and live and enjoy it the way we want. Selfish? Maybe? Is this my one and only life? Most certainly.
I have two sons, one is 24 and one is 17. They are the apples of my eye, I love them to the moon and back and I will never let them down. With that said, if I were to go back in time I would not have chosen to have children. The future is just so dark. If the climate crisis don’t kill you then the rise of fascism coupled with the threat of a third world war will. That’s how it feels. Who wants to bring a child into this world? It’s irresponsible. In my country costs is not the big factor. Going to college or university is free. Childcare is free. We have paid parental leave for 480 days per child.
Another factor not mentioned is the rising struggle with mental health and lack of resources for support. Sometimes it takes all the energy you have to just to emotionally survive the day.
That and they’ll just put you on ssri or hand out some other harmful pills that shorten your lifespan and make you unhealthy and unhappy and not ever actually listen to your problems and solve them
We can't even afoard a good house, how can we have children.. Working 60 hours a week, being tired and frustrated all the time.. yeah society is great these days
That's a pipe dream. Never going to happen. You need to be powerful to change the way things are. You need money to be powerful. The rich and powerful control the world. Of course they don't want to change anything. This is how the world has always been.
@@19Marksman79 true. Just the money goes to the top anyways. So make sense to have it flow from the bottom to the top. Instead of straight to the top and screw us over right away
For all the kids without parents out there, just so ya know -- they aren't necessary. I grew up without parents and I'm just fine. Yeah, sometimes I'm sad I don't have parents, but life's good. Got a wife and a cat and I'm working on a good career. Wife's great, cat's great. Career's up and coming. Remember that life is what you make it.
I think it is a men issue. Someone made a good observation. We have less romantic comedies nowadays because many young men are "hiding in their rooms" rather than experience the outside world. So they don't have the social skills to deal with women which resulted in few romantic comedies.
Infinite growth capitalism had squeezed people so hard that society is breaking, no one has any quality of life, children are suicide, mental health issues skyrocketing, failing infrastructure, decline in relationships, abolishment of family structures and community. In a world of chasing infinite growth for investment yield society pays the price, not investors.
the capitalist system must grow forever or it collapses. it extracts as much as it can, forever, from people and the planet. that’s why it’s not sustainable and needs to be replaced.
I'm married, no kids, dual income. Its far too expensive right now to have kids. We can barely afford living just us two. My wife would like to stay home with the kids (if we ever have them), so she would no longer be working. Lowering our income even more. Its just not feasible. Growing up, my Father worked and my Mother was a stay at home Mom. Thats no longer feasible either. So you have to choose...live somewhat "comfortably" with no kids OR Have kids and struggle to get by financially
@@kfed8599 Have one car, small house, stop eating fast food and junk food. You can make healthy delicious homemade meals for cheap with beans, rice, and lentils. Stop buying crap you don't need. It's doable if you save and budget for it. Don't give up and say "I can't do it" that's how they win. We have to try harder.
I’m debt free, single no kids. My life is stress free. Own my own house, car, etc. I can afford to have kids. I choose to not have kids. I can’t stand the current ones that scream in shopping malls, and grocery stores; let alone in my own house!
I don't want kids because I don't have the desire. I really do not want the responsibility of children. In this world, it's hard to raise children. I don't want the guilt of feeling that I failed as a parent. It's just too much. You can have perfect parents and still turn out as a menace to society. No thanks
My parents had three kids and all the help in the world they could get. My wife and I had a child and within a day my dad said “my diaper changing days are over”. My wife and I have to do everything ourselves. We are stressed all the time and always tired. Raising a kid is exhausting and the financial strain is real.
@@marcvslicinivscrassvs7536 oh 😂, but it kind of sucks when grand parents don't want to help. Not all the time at least every couple of weeks they take the grand kids. It helps them bond together. Also having kids around is good for the aging minds.
I hear a lot of younger people, who's parents were atrocious, stating they're never having kids. This last 10-15 years of parenting style has turned off a lot of their own kids to having kids
For sure our parents were probably not aware back in the day that you should probably heal your trauma before being a parent so you don't pass it down. A lot of people nowadays are realizing that, at least.
Depends, give them milk, candy and a pickaxe, you have a new worker you can pay an amount they don't understand as being fair or unfair! The children yearn for the mines...
I don't have a maternal instinct - I don't want to ever get pregnant. No one seems to talk about that - everyone just assumes we're choosing not to have kids for every other reason other than simply not liking the idea of being pregnant/giving birth and being in the presence of a child non-stop for 18 years (plus another 10 because most kids can't afford to leave home at 18 any more). I just have no wish to procreate, simple.
@@agnediciuniene9861 it's unsafe for many women and girls to give birth, especially in red states like TX with effective abortion bans and limited healthcare options
Same. I can’t stand the sound of kids yelling or crying. I can’t stand looking at diapers or strollers. The thought of taking care of a little helpless human is just repulsive. I’ve taken care of elderly people and I don’t mind it, but babies I just can’t.
@@hallhv01 Just in time to what? Fix everything? Make more workers obsolete in their jobs? I am torn between thinking AI is incredible and AI is just a sophisticated Mad Lib generator.
All our policies are based on increases growth rate from the populace. We are in a world of hurt if that doesnt happen. Only thing that may help is true automation.
I don’t think we need to do anything about it. Having or not having a kid is a personal choice. Rich countries will simply import more people from poorer countries(immigration) with higher birthrates. Currently it’s Asia, eventually it will be Africa.
@@DonesdeMotivacionA pet costs as much as child? Where? Does the dog or cat need school supplies, clothes, food and go to college? No. You're crazy wrong.
@@didi7074 Per month, per pound body weight, no subsidies, all cost are on the pet caretaker. No free daycare (public school). Potentially average 15+ year commitment. May need to hire for various daily duties. May need boarding or pet sitting. No Medicare (any kid gets healthcare). Vet cost are not subsidized. You just happen to be completely ignorant about the expenses for responsible pet care. Yes, they can cost MORE than a pet child. Care costs $$$$ and pets involve a lot of daily TIME to manage.
I never wanted kids since I was 18, not even because of money, just really no general desire. Why do something with so much responsibility, and so expensive that I didn’t even want from the beginning
I’m 29, married with two kids, one household income. It’s extremely hard not only because of financial but also to your mental health. I feel like the system is not setup for parents to thrive. We had to make so much sacrifices to make sure our kids are good. Also there’s no one there to help you compared to having kids 20/30 years ago. Plus all the responsibility increases because there is just so much to worry about now.
@@tacsmithAgreed. I am basically poor, but I love taking my kids camping and to do fun stuff that we can afford. Watching them grow up and enjoy life is the best part! I love teaching them life skills and see them put into play. However, I understand parenting isn't for everyone!
Sounds like a major crisis coming for our future generations. Humans rapidly overpopulated the Earth 70 years ago. Humans weren't ready for those repercussions
It takes a village to raise a child, and that village isn’t around anymore. Everyone is broke and exhausted. We chose the DINK life for us, and it’s been great so far!
Communities used to raise children. Now it's single parent mothers that want nothing to do with anyone's opinion about how they should raise their children.
@@Ninjagurl24Sure, but traditionally that is what a village was. You worked together to build things for your family line and pass it on and teach them to maintain it.
Probably because he’s actually educated on the issue. That 50% numbers is the total number regardless or age race or economic status. The actual percentage rate changes depending on several factors. For example partners who marry at an earlier age have a higher rate of success than partners who marry very young.
@@CordeliaWagner1999 hahaha he was referring to house in general. A roof to leave. That's for sure now it's very difficult to afford. And most of the people that want to have kids want to have at least the basic covered.
Yet they like to tell us their parents helped them profusely, we had fantastic relationships with our grandparents; I have no idea how our parents got like this. Also, they are just watching us struggle financially! No grip on how it was easier to get by and invest in bricks and mortar, it's gone! It is baffling, this won't be the same for my daughter.
The greatest generation was the greatest indeed even after surviving the war and working hard, they still had morivation to help around with grandchildren in their elderly age.
My parents raised us without the help of grandparents or relatives. Then again, this was in the 80s-90s when families were able to live on one income. Mom stayed at home to take care of us.😆 The times have changed.
The idea that having children is a must in women is finally being lifted and a lot of us are taking breather and realizing we don’t need to go through all of that. I’m glad. Those companies are evil and can go to the can.
@@Jose04537You should check out the robots they got.There's really no need for so many people.Anymore, with the quantity and quality of robots about to hit the marketplace. The world is ready and waiting for them to start shipping. Wars were fought over less.
Kids are too expensive and most men are not worthy of being husbands/fathers. Dating is a nightmare, I’m too busy working to willingly put myself through that type of unnecessary stress.
@armorbearer9702, Some people are not meant to be parents. There are parents that abuse and or neglect their children. Economy is not the only reason for not having children.
Or a lot of us just simply don't want to give birth? Did you ever stop and think about that? Did you ever stop and think that maybe women get to make their own decisions for their own bodies?
We have entered a spiral. The more double income no kids, the more things are priced for them, houses, cars, etc. If you have kids, you are falling behind very fast. We are fast approaching the event horizon where having kids is 100% disadvantage and not having kids is 300% advantage.
@@UlexiteTVStoneLexite 🧐 women making as much or more than men is historically unique. The only pay gap that persists is for women with children. Most boomer families were single income for much of their early house buying and child rearing years. And this was affordable. This is not feasible today. Wow, your comment is breathtakingly nonsensical. 😧
Like it hasn't been there already 😏🙄 In my **unpopular** opinion, its a good thing, and we should focus more on AI and automation instead of pushing more immigration.
I’m sorry, but I view this as a good thing. It’s like a more gradual Thanos snap. Plus, I don’t want to have children. I’m scared of the process. It’s like having a Xenomorph inside your body.
@@kingrobotnik6950 no in cels like y0u is why things are starting to suck. Why do you think you get to tell people what to do? Your life is that bad that you have to try to shame other people?
@@kingrobotnik6950It’s true, though. Treating humans like livestock is unethical. Better to focus on encouraging people who have already chosen to have at least one child to have one more. Don’t reduce benefits of any kind per child until at least the fourth one. 🤔
Whenever there is a talk about having or not having kids, there is always some selfish person saying, "having kids is the most rewarding experience". This kind of people see the world only from their point of view and not from the kid's.
Dating apps are not "tools that are meant to bring us closer together". They are tools that are meant to extract value from users by preying on their fundamental needs and deepest insecurities
The expenses are outrages, I’m an engineer and my wife is pediatric resident. We live frugally and save a lot, live in an affordable place and we see all the expenses for just one baby and it’s astronomical.
@@mortenovergaard7397 hi of course, while we registered we are getting the large item ourselves. Stroller, car seat, cameras, furniture, so forth. This has been a couple of thousand, mind you we are getting affordable to at best mid range brands. Getting the baby on my insurance is an extra $200 a month. Next the every week expenses from food, diapers, and the worse of all child care, for my area it’s a minimum of $1200 a month, for again not the best. There’s other areas, I broke it down for first two years of total cost/month for my situation and it was around an extra $2089 a month.
@genkiferal7178 why does the wife need to stay home? Why can't the husband? Also last time I checked, an engineering degree is also quite costly, Why aren't you asking this man if he also has student loan debt? Your comment wreaks of sexism
@@mortenovergaard7397 Food. Rent/mortgage. Transportation to work. Health insurance. Debt payments from education required to get good jobs. These things alone break most people.
@chronometer9931 explain why wages haven't kept up with inflation or housing costs then, oh dear people don't want to live pay check to pay check to have kids and still not able to send them to college, having kids is for the rich now or the poor who dgaf abt their kids future
yea infinite growth is embarrassing to even think about. Sustaining the exact same input / output is peak efficiency. we need a static population and to sustain everything. At that point human progression can be the main focus, science and going to other planets etc
This isn’t about infinite growth, it’s about at least keeping the same number of people, thus replacement rate of 2.1 births per couple requirement. Now, if you want a scheme, look at corporate growth expectations. There’s a finite amount of people to sell to. Eventually the corporation cannot grow further and they need to learn to be satisfied with a company that doesn’t change in size.
As someone who has one baby, it’s exhausting. We live in a a modern world where we can stimulate our brains and have so many interests and hobbies, I can see how it’s difficult convincing (especially women) people to give up a cushy live we are barely affording to decades of stress when it comes to having children. I think perspectives have changed and the reality of what it’s like having children has come to light. I love my child to death and he is my entire world, but I’m not going to lie, I am the most exhausted/stressed I’ve ever been in my entire life. You can love your child unconditionally and still be so tired to drag yourself out of bed. Two things can be true at the same time.
As a woman in Texas, it’s terrifying to become pregnant. I WANT to be a mother, but so many pregnant people in states with abortion bans have been denied life saving care, causing them to have permanent medical damage or even die.
This. Even before the repeal of Roe, the maternity death rate in the US was on par with 3rd world countries. It's now guaranteed to be even higher. Besides the financial strain, who really wants to gamble their long term health or entire life? Especially knowing the life-saving care you need is possible but just not for you, not in this country. And it's not like adoption is an easy or cheap process either. Better for most to just not have kids at all.
@@MPisme33 not to mention if either you or your child are disabled, there's very little protections in place for either of you whether that's at home, work, school, etc. 😭 Makes no sense to take any of these risks.
I think a part of it is a cultural mindset shift where my generation uses more critical thinking and starts realizing, I don’t have to live the same way our parents lived, we don’t have to conform to their aspirations, we actually consider the risks and benefits of what creating a whole new human being entails.
I can afford to have kids, but I don’t want to be a slave to corporate America for another 20 years so my kids can eat. I wanna retire early and enjoy this earthly experience.
the point is that in time people with no kids will become history and people who succesfuly rise kids will build the history. The system will auto-regulate itself.
@@Chris-pq3wpTbh this argument just sounds like you're a boring person who couldn't have a worthy life rather than makes one feel excited for a kiddo. And I'm someone who wants kids. xD
My father who bought the house i live in, in 1985 was 2.5 times his wages to afford, now its bloody 50 years to pay off hence back then having more kids was easily doable
NOW let's be HONEST, it's not just economy. The poorest and least educated people have many more kids. Previous generarions were starving and yet... they still had kids to help them with work. Fortunately, women can choose now and many people just don't want them 🤷♂️ Smart people realize it's not worth the stress, all the sacrifices and financial burden. We have different goals nowadays and that's not inherently bad, but it may be difficult to solve and sustain in future.
Agreed. I think one of the things this guy is not talking about is that a lot of people don't want kids because they don't like children and don't want their lifestyle changed. Most people don't want to change diapers, be stuck at home, have to do drive back and forth to schools, kids sports or become soccer moms or soccer dads. There are studies that show that people who have kids are miserable. Not saying they don't love their kids but they will tell you they don't like their children. They envy their childless and single friends.
@@9395gb Exactly! I also think this is very overlooked factor. There don’t even have to be large scale studies for seeing this. If you compare what can childless person do and afford in their free time vs hectic and stresfull life of parents it’s quite obvious. Some might enjoy raising kids, but many don’t want to and it’s very understandable.
its not difficult to understand.. . cost of living has gone up.. but wages down...so realistically speaking why would anyone bring a child into this failing society just to have them struggle more than we did. Just because someone wants to pass on their name?
@@ellenaivanovych4916 you don't get to make decisions for other people. You don't get to criticize other people's personal decisions for their own lives because it's not your life buddy.
@@UlexiteTVStoneLexite you understand that if everybody stops having kids that leads to extinction, right? It’s everyone’s right to have or not have their lifestyle. But that by no means that people are free from criticism. Stop being so damn soft.
Love how people like to say things like “sometime later in your life you may change your priorities about what you want in life”… as if the choice to be childfree has some impending doom. No my priorities are to have a peaceful, stress-free, simple life and those priorities aren’t changing.
Shouldn't live life worrying about what you might regret anyway. You don't know what you might regret so just make the best decision you can right now.
@@txdmskthe world was evil then too, now there’s more knowledge out there to see what it is really(no religion, corruption, etc). I think it’s realization of what humans are and the loss of hope in change of our base nature
@@txdmsk Yeah it was better, because the point of view is worldwide, not limited to specific periods of time, because I can take all the bad things that happened in the entire human history and say "oh, it was so bad".
Most men dont help, others just bail all together. Moms are advising their daughters to really think it through and opening their eyes to how it really is to raise children without support. Married single mom syndrome is real.
Because of today's social media, the average young woman is far more entitled than her grandma was. Young men have to work 10x as hard as their grandpa did, just to "win" the affections of young women who aren't even HALF as good as their grandma was. Hoe-flation.
I don't envy anyone in the world of dating, either, and I day that as someone who's been a married single mom. I don't think either scenario is good. 😮
@@BoatMurderedDFtheir Grandmas couldn’t even open bank accounts or own property. Their only choice for survival was to get married. And your idea of a good woman is one who puts the needs of her husband and kid first and is practically a servant. It was our grandmothers who told us to get educations and jobs so we wouldn’t have to live the way they did. The “extra” effort guys have to put in now is proving they can provide more than just money. Women can do that on their own. Now we want a partner who can put in an equal amount of child rearing, housework, emotional maintenance…etc. meanwhile some guys are still stuck on the idea that all they have to do is bring in money, take out the trash and make occasional repairs around the house. Single women are statistically happier than single men and married women. It says something when married men and single women are the happiest groups
@@pattykake7195that’s such an ignorant and unnecessary comment. So many elderly in the nursing homes are lonely because their kids don’t visit them. You know those kids will also have to work and maintain a family, will have hobbies, might live on the other side of the country for work, etc. If you are child free and you know that’s what you want from a young age, then you cultivate friendships that will last a lifetime and be there for you even when you are old. Also there is no guarantee that your kid is born healthy to be able to take care of you, or doesn’t mingle with the wrong crowds and become a substance dependent adult, or even survives until you are old, since accidents happen. And last but not least… bringing a child to this world only so that you are potentially not lonely when you are old is beyond selfish. But sure, go off…
@@necessarydrama No guarantees your cultivated friends won’t get something terminal either, start smoking pot, or find a hobby more interesting than you. Life is a lottery isn’t it…we all have to roll the dice, hope for the best, and teach our kids to stay away from ignorant unnecessary people…🎲.
My mom doesn’t want to help my husband and I raise kids so I’m not having any. If I had a better support system then maybe. But my dad, brother suffers from addiction . My sister feels stressed with life. I was a parentified child…. I don’t have time for dysfunction
@@Ben-CatGray-StultzI hate to say it but as an American, school shootings are very normalized at this point to where nobody is surprised when they happen anymore. Yes they are tragedies and no child deserves to grow up with that fear but people don’t take them as seriously or else we’d do something about them by now.
@@pumpkinpai1725 if it was truly normalized then it wouldn’t be reported in the news anymore. It’s constantly in the news. Meaning it’s still devastating
@@pumpkinpai1725 Nah it’s just every country is on our meat about it even though kids are murdered in school in many other countries as well. It’s just not with a gun.
Even if i had a home, large income and lived in a safe neighborhood, met the love of my life. Good schools. Green sustainable environment, etc. I still don’t want kids.
I had a kid at 23 years old. New generations are rethinking priorities-focusing on financial stability, and personal freedom before considering kids, if at all.
@@ageless1003 Why is that how it should be? What is the ethically objective reason for finances and personal freedom being inherently more important than having children?
Honestly is it so bad that we might change our nature as the world itself grows and shifts? We know these lifestyles are ultimately unsustainable and with more people comes more cost. Why have children if we only drag them to the same depressing fate as our own. Children should be cherished and loved not used as labour mules for a broken system.
@@LordDRockMusic having children is a long term commitment and should be thought through at every levels. With changing world order, increased competition for basic things like food, water and clean air, exhausting yourself to bring an innocent soul in this world should be worth it. As it stands, when you look at macro level - it ain't worth it !!!
Having kids is sooooo horribly overrated and I'm so glad people are now waking up to this fact and that other lifestyles exist and pursuing their OWN happiness and not remain in this mold that traditional society wanted us all to fit in.
@@HereToSuffer247 having kids is selfish?? Hahahaha yeah to bring another life into this world and doing everything for them until they become adults is the most non selfish thing you can do. I have kids I have a great life and so do they. Just because you’re miserable doesn’t mean the rest of us are.
If you're so happy being a parent then why are you here judging us? Don't you want to spend time with your kids instead of hassling people who didn't make the same choice as you. We are not miserable either because if we were miserable without kids then we would have them. People can still have a fulfilling life without children. I'm sorry if that comes as a shock to you.
I want the same thing I have started to try to find a friend to be with. My goal is to be with someone but no kids. Instead, pets. But it's hard to find someone in my age range. I'm 23
20 years ago my daughter was born, we decided my wife would give up her well paid city job, which cut our income by half. I'm in a well paid career so I carried the burden. My wife never went back to the same job, they even begged her to come back but she refused. She stayed home until our daughter started school and then retrained a nursery school assistant as the hours and light workload meant she could be home when same time as our daughter. We know it hit our pensions and savings, we couldn't have nice vacations and we have to make do with things but it make us more frugal with our money but we made sacrifices we didn't expect in order to have a child. With social media and informtion younger generations are very much aware of the sacrifices I wasn't when I was their age and I can fully understand why they dont' want to give up the money , vacations, etc.
Right and that was for one child, the problem now is that you have to invest so much into each kid for them to have a chance in this competitive society just look at south korea with their insane tuition system
Some people just don’t want kids. It could be that we were just in a big population boom for the last hundred years and now it’s starting to stabilize. Either way everything will be fine. This isn’t the end of humanity.
Yes people are living longer - Boomers in particular… this is putting economic pressure on the younger generations. Housing supply not keeping up with demand, older people refuse to retire so younger people aren’t moving up in our careers as quickly. Etc etc. it will be okay. Eventually the Boomers will all retire and pass away. There will be a wealth transfer back but unfortunately, in the meantime the elderly extract wealth from us younger poorer workers through social security taxes. That’s a drain on working family age.
What is the purpose of having a kid, when both are working 40+ hours a week, just to stay afloat. Our society focused on productivity, efficiency and money. This is exactly what we got. Now we are simply paying the price for it.
We didn't make the system like this and no we don't have to live with it, hopefully soon people will decide to come together. Together we are strong,you already know we are the numbers, that's why they want us so low and occupied
More leisure time would probably be the best thing for kids. Kids need constant supervision to be safe and to learn, but society says to just pay some shady company a boatload of money to handle that critical part for you.
Notice how they spin it as our responsibility to have them but it's for the benefit of the system.
Didn't people work the same if not more hours hundreds of years ago? How were they able to have so many kids?
@@IamAWESOME3980 not true, in medieval they had winter break and worked 150 days a year. Its nonsense and propaganda trying to convince you "you have better than them and live in best time of history" while pandemic happen and it was shown how much governments and corpos dont care about you. Its worse than in 2000 and people still shamelessly say its better? No its not its not even better than in history its actually the worst time in history to work and you dont anything to show for even though how much "more advanced" the world is right? Theres only poor the slaves and rich the slave owners and middle class is basically nonexistent.
Funny thing is, the wolves are now crying because the sheep aren’t breeding
Beautifully stated. ❤
That's why they killed row v wade. They want us breeding
The billionaires got mad that we wanted better wages so they increased everything else along with it. Now they’re paying the price.
@hallhv01 then why are they also looking to outlaw IVF fertilization treatments?
I'd argue it's more about control and causing division amongst the masses based on cultural battles so we have no time to unite under the fact the oligarchy of America has created a class division that effects every single person outside thoughs who own capital.
The Chinese civilian society phrased it. The sheep are disappearing in the wolves are getting scared.
One income is not enough to support a family anymore. People can't afford to stay home to take care of their children nor can they afford daycare. What did all these governments expect to happen?
This is what they want.
We live in, quite literally, the richest time in human history. Poverty never stopped humanity before. There is no reason it should now.
@@samuelboucher1454The difference between then and now is the fact that newer generations have access to more education… We also live under a government that will harass parents in poverty with CPS. People also don’t have the freedom to be parents while slaving away at work to live paycheck to paycheck. And childcare eats away at most of your income. Oh yeah, and the government overturned Roe V Wade, so now women are afraid to get pregnant because healthcare providers can’t really help pregnant women in the case of complications and/pr emergencies… Basically, I bring all of this up to say that declining birth rates are a direct consequence of poor policies. Why would anyone want to raise a child into a system of wage slavery?
@@samuelboucher1454the difference is that having kids in the past improved their parents lives, either thru helping on the farm or having more time to enjoy together.
Modern times, people just have to work and work to support their kids. There’s not much benefit for people of our time in first world countries, studies show it lowers happiness and definitely income, affecting life quality.
Fix these issues and people will have more kids.
No. Biggest thing best thing. Having kids was it.
I grew up in a low-income household. While we never went without, we often struggled to keep a roof over our heads. That experience, along with being bullied for not having fancy things / clothes and mocked for our very poor house throughout my school years, shaped my belief that financial stability should come first before considering having children. Personal responsibility should be the top priority before bringing a child into the world. However, society is structured around ideas of 'productivity,' 'high performance,' and 'efficiency' - terms that drive people into a cycle of servitude. This system can trap those who might want children but have the foresight to understand they can't afford them. It's a harsh, inescapable cycle.
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🎯 !!!! 🙏
Atleast I’m not the only one who thinks like this
Can’t afford a house, can’t afford children, can’t afford medical care, etc.
This combined with everyone scared about the future (constant fear mongering of war, crisis, weather events, etc)
@@dognextdoor REMEMBER THAT AT AGE 80 WHEN YOUR ALONE.
@@demetri6323 Most of the people with kids still die alone in nursing homes.
@@demetri6323 I know plenty of elder people who are already estranged from their ungrateful kids.
@@demetri6323someone’s insecure with themselves and is afraid of being in solitude with their own mind 👀👀👀
No one can afford to have kids.We can't even afford to buy a home
It’s the fault of the Federal Reserve banking cartels around the world that have effectively destroyed currencies across the globe. The masses in the world as a whole are getting poorer. If we lived in a more prosperous world more children would be able to be born. Stable money would lead to a general prosperity but the powers to be want to destroy the common man and push the world back into a neofeudal society.
Exactly and that’s why they want to ban abortions
Depends where you want to buy a home
Maybe the housing bubble will burst and home will be cheaper
@@DelibngOr live in West Virginia or in some places in Michigan like Detroit.
Also, choosing the wrong person to have a child with can absolutely ruin your life. And you may not know they're wrong until its too late.
living this tragedy right now 🥲
hate to break it but EVERYONE is the wrong person. Literally no one is the right. Everyone finds this out. Difference is making it work vs giving up
@@teru797 wrong; sometimes you just can't. It ain't "giving up" it's refusing to live in delusion, something people aren't familiar with these days.
@@d011p4rtz Cant what? Sorry not sure which comment or thing is being replied to.
Use your hand...
Have a kid so that they can become another wage slave in a capitalist labour market? That’s cruel.
i think like that also
Amen
It's been like that since the dawn of mankind. You're either pro or anti-human. Refusing to have children because "life's hard" seems pretty anti-human. I'd rather be alive than dead. Most people would agree.
@@Eddy_Stylez Wrong, it's the lack of true human connection that drives this. Japanese salarymen are one of the the best examples. They have to stay out way way past normal 9-5 workdays and between their insane overtime and abusing of caffeine they have a special word for "unaliving from overwork". Because of this they very little connection to their spouses and even less with their children. This made them realize that a family they never see isn't worth it. So they stopped marrying and many use AI Girlfriends Aps to give them a sense of connection.
Is it incredibly sad? Yeah, and it is a warning sign of things to come? Also yeah, but it is anti-human? No, this feels much more human than most of the finger pointing I hear from Boomers and politicians.
@@Arc3752 Point taken. That's another contributing factor. In all honesty humans will always be having children, the birth rate will always fluctuate depending on environmental factors. It just seems bad now because social media allows us to hear about the reasons why people are choosing not to have children. Imagine what people thought back in the middle ages when quality of life was dramatically worse than it is today.
Humans don't like to breed in captivity
based
That is a fantastic observation.
Exactly
When everything is about money, consumerism and materialism, life becomes depressing. There is more to life then just work and money.
😂
As Michael Jackson once said " can't feed the babies, don't have the babies " in short we listened.
Mike knew what was up 😂
He also said "They don't really care about us"
@@Bittersweet721 👍🏼
From “Wanna be Starting Something”
The ownership class in this country is shooting themselves in the foot by paying people such low wages. There is plenty of money for raising kids here in the US, but the rich would rather have a second yacht. This is the revenge of the working class refusing to bring another life into this world only to live paycheck to paycheck.
The “captains of industry” will be shocked when no one can buy their products.
Lol revenge.. they want less people. You can't be that lost.
The ownership class doesn't need us. We're nothing to them. When they need new employees they bring in skilled programmers from India, nurses from the Philippines, manual labor from South America, etc...
It's not about the money it's about population control if it was actually about the money if it was actually about developing capital and Industry they wouldn't implement policies that directly hinder workplace productivity like discouraging remote work when statistically remote workers have higher rates of productivity relative to the amount of hours they work. They're trying to kill off as many people as possible because everyone's brainwashed into a cult and they don't even realize they're a part of it this cult believes that the world is going to end any day now this cult believes that the Earth will somehow end up a dead Planet because of human beings which is deeply narcissistic of us to think as a species that we're in some way inherently separate from nature in any way and it's even more ridiculously arrogant to think that we as a species can destroy the ecosystem of the entire planet when several mass extinctions couldn't even do that.
They’re already one step ahead of you I’m afraid, this is being solved by large amounts of migration to offset the birth rate decline. It’s a short term solution but it’s working.
Aside from financial reasons, we're living in an age where you can't just let your kids play outside or walk to a friend's house alone or even sit in the car while you pop into a grocery store for a minute or someone will call the cops. Kids don't get to stretch their wings, they're not socializing or functioning the way they used to, and parents are EXHAUSTED.
I agree with this completely.
that is a good thing that ppl call the cops
You can´t educate your unruly child in public without some childless adult filming and exposing you in social media calling juvenile officials to remove the children from you.
It's not low birth rate that concerns the governments, it's the lack of workforce.
Nope. It's the lack of workforce competitors. They want 400 applicants to a job so they dont have to pay..... they also NEED consumers as well as war soilders. Military sign up is low as well.
Low pay, Low birth rate..
..raise workers wages!!!
Which is why it's a better time than ever to invest in ai robots when labor shortages hit corporations. Also ai companions
Aah, thats the same thing.
no worries. they're going to replace us with robots or immigrants
As a younger female millennial, I can barely afford myself these days. Idk why anyone is shocked the birth rate is so low. Can't even go outside without spending $100. They've made it to where many women have to quit their jobs just because their whole check goes to childcare. I won't put myself in that situation.
You can afford a decent meal for $5
Veggie pack and can of beans
You all have high expectations
@@Sabiqoon-w8y lol and that does not have enough nutrients to survive on buddy. You can't live on just veggies and beans.
@@UlexiteTVStoneLexite yes you can
Don’t need meat every day
@@Sabiqoon-w8y on beans and veggies only no. Vegan diets are expensive because you are going to run into nutrient deficiencies. Beans and veggies are not enough.
Also your comment sounds like you are recommending that as a regular thing.
You also have to eat so much more just to get enough calories. Do you know how much of veggies and beans you have to eat just to get enough calories?
A cup of cooked pinto beans is 235 calories. You need 8.5 cups of beans dude. That is going to be the most calorie dense food you suggested
@@Sabiqoon-w8yIf you have to eat this way to have kids, then you can't afford them.
Because life is unaffordable. That is the only answer. The middle class can’t afford to retire or buy a home so why the hell would they have kids?
Poor people have kids all the time. It is interesting that the middle class chose not to have kids. (I am child free by choice and middle class) maybe humans don’t like to breed in captivity… and middle class is a nice way of saying “wage slave”.
The affluent are having more kids sure, but just barely. Not discounting what you are saying but theres more to it than this.
@@CedarCream Yes, this is why I have chosen to not pursue parenthood. Current projections for our society aren't looking very hopeful. I don't feel comfortable having a child who's just going to suffer worse than myself because they'll have less than I do. I would have to better than even my parents in order to make parenthood work. Having children right now just doesn't feel like a priority. Not when we have massive environmental, political, and social issues that must be resolved first.
they also had to pay less, besides why hope when there is just despair for your children. I wouldn't want to live in the future, so why should I selfishly bring them into this world.
@@CedarCreamkids were also made to work from a young age. They did a basic education and could move out by the age of 18. Nowadays you HAVE to dupport xour kid through uni if they are supposed to have ANY chance of surviving. Being a carpenter isn't enough now.
Why would I want to force someone to be born into a world that hates them?
AMEN TO THAT, REAL TALK 👍🏾
Adults were adamant that irresponsible people having kids were ruining everything when i was growing up. They told us we'd ruin our lives by getting married too early and not focusing on school and career. I don't understand how people find anything about declining birth rates surprising.
Everything about modern culture and society discourages getting married and having kids.
This is so true to what I experienced. I am 47 now.
Exactly. I was always brought up with the sentiment “Don’t be like [insert family friend name here]. She settled and punched out kids and that’s her life now. Go to university, get a profession and travel the world.” When I was younger, I totally didn’t see the beauty or joy in a simple life. Now, that is what I crave… funnily enough, having a family and a home is just as impossible as travelling the world on a low-wage profession haha. What have we done.
This! I wish more people would talk about this. I was raised hearing that all day long, and not even necessarily from my parents. From society at large, and just by the way girls in my high school were treated when they got pregnant or married really young. If we as a generation grew up internalizing this ofc there's less kids in the world 10-20 years later.
And if you do have a child, everyone around you will criticize your parenting, no matter what you do..
Also many neighborhoods aren't child friendly at all.
If I had to guess, I'd characterize it as people losing faith in society's institutions. All of them. The trust is broken
Haha, the little baby hand 😅
How do you think of these things ! 😅
You are right
Or we just don't want to have kids. Not everyone wants kids.
@UlexiteTVStoneLexite no, that doesn't explain why birthrates are declining universally.
@@jackattackhissnack yes it absolutely does. Lots of people don't want kids today.
Wow... Isn't this apparent? Lack of stability, no faith in what the future brings, mortgages are insanely pricey and wages are garbage.
@@craigedwards2411 Bro's loaded. This stuff is news to him
Anyone in their right mind would not have kids right now. This current state only the wealthy should be having kids.
the social contract is dead
Which is why they wanna ban abortions lol
Not to mention, because bills, rent, and mortgages are crazy expensive, we barely have enough money to keep food on the table. Even multiple young adults are still living with their parents because they can not afford to buy a house because prices have skyrocketed, and yet the amount of money people get paid from their jobs is not even half the amount that is needed to keep a roof over their heads.
People are simply realizing that there is more to life, than having a baby
That’s so stupid
@@Jaanikins not exactly! Kids are expensive and stressful, and there are other reasons why people don't want to have kids!
@@evanhughes1510 maybe you want to live the one life you have on this planet at the behest of others, but it’s not for everyone.
Personally, I just want peace and quiet. And that will be impossible with kids.
@evanhughes1510 If you want to be stressed out with nagging annoying kids then do that, but don’t be rude towards those of us that don’t want that for our lives
@@evanhughes1510you are acting like having children isn't also instinctual and impulsive. We are all animals, having or not having children doesn't make anyone better
People stopped wanting to bring new life into this wage-slavery when it became
“of the corporations, by the corporations, for the corporations”
Cyberpunks corpos ruin everything. They expect all the benefits of a new batch of laborers, as parents pay the price to make them. Profiteering of externatalities.
What's the point of having kids anymore? That's a genuine question that I have. Bots and A.I are gonna be running everything in the future. So there's no gonna be any jobs 10 years from now. What's the point of having kids anymore? 🤔❓
🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯
CORPORATIONS HAVE RIGHTS LIKE HUMAN BEINGS 🤔
People simply realizing you can choose to not have kids
People had no idea about this option before.
And this is great.🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
lol yes! Women are not just baby factories. 😂
@@Draconiangemyes and men are not just sperm donors.
We live in a time when people have realized that they do not have to blindly follow tradition they can live their own way.
Besides the cost of living is absurdly expensive couples cannot afford for one parent to stay at home to take care of the child
Exactly this! Finally someone said it too. We can choose not dedicating at least 18 yrs of taking care of others from our life and live and enjoy it the way we want. Selfish? Maybe? Is this my one and only life? Most certainly.
Easy cause we broke . I can’t afford to eat . Done
I have two sons, one is 24 and one is 17. They are the apples of my eye, I love them to the moon and back and I will never let them down. With that said, if I were to go back in time I would not have chosen to have children. The future is just so dark. If the climate crisis don’t kill you then the rise of fascism coupled with the threat of a third world war will. That’s how it feels. Who wants to bring a child into this world? It’s irresponsible.
In my country costs is not the big factor. Going to college or university is free. Childcare is free. We have paid parental leave for 480 days per child.
AI/science will solve the climate crisis sooner than you think...
Sweden?
Poland?
I was thinking Poland as well. I'm eligible for a green card based on ancestry. But at my age it would be for retirement.
and males can be killers too and end up in prison
Another factor not mentioned is the rising struggle with mental health and lack of resources for support. Sometimes it takes all the energy you have to just to emotionally survive the day.
This needs more upvotes
so true
Stop taking your meds and go out
That and they’ll just put you on ssri or hand out some other harmful pills that shorten your lifespan and make you unhealthy and unhappy and not ever actually listen to your problems and solve them
"Stop taking meds" is bad advice
We can't even afoard a good house, how can we have children.. Working 60 hours a week, being tired and frustrated all the time.. yeah society is great these days
You are right its so stressful..
Can we start to put people 1st instead of corporations?
But what about the shareholders 😢
@@obokengm788Those are people too.
Companies are people though. Legally they are ‘individuals’. That is how the west treats them.
That's a pipe dream. Never going to happen. You need to be powerful to change the way things are. You need money to be powerful. The rich and powerful control the world. Of course they don't want to change anything. This is how the world has always been.
@@19Marksman79 true. Just the money goes to the top anyways. So make sense to have it flow from the bottom to the top. Instead of straight to the top and screw us over right away
People are opting out of relationships as well. No relationship? No kids.
Eeeeeehhh....duuuuuude....someone with the same parts?!🤑😱😵
Not every parent deserves kids but every kid deserves parents.
Exactly ! Sometime feel very sorry for some kids
For all the kids without parents out there, just so ya know -- they aren't necessary. I grew up without parents and I'm just fine. Yeah, sometimes I'm sad I don't have parents, but life's good. Got a wife and a cat and I'm working on a good career. Wife's great, cat's great. Career's up and coming. Remember that life is what you make it.
Some parent are downright evil and abusive.
With the A.I. boom, we won't need as many kids. Hopefully, the world population peaked and declines a bit.
I think it is a men issue. Someone made a good observation. We have less romantic comedies nowadays because many young men are "hiding in their rooms" rather than experience the outside world. So they don't have the social skills to deal with women which resulted in few romantic comedies.
Infinite growth capitalism had squeezed people so hard that society is breaking, no one has any quality of life, children are suicide, mental health issues skyrocketing, failing infrastructure, decline in relationships, abolishment of family structures and community. In a world of chasing infinite growth for investment yield society pays the price, not investors.
Line go up next fiscal quarter thinking has cost the system future kids.
Yeah seriously, why do companies and the economy have to constantly grow instead of sustain?
@@AdmiringObserverR No the corporations grow while we all shrink.
Corporations need to be regulated back down to earth.
the capitalist system must grow forever or it collapses. it extracts as much as it can, forever, from people and the planet. that’s why it’s not sustainable and needs to be replaced.
I'm married, no kids, dual income.
Its far too expensive right now to have kids. We can barely afford living just us two.
My wife would like to stay home with the kids (if we ever have them), so she would no longer be working. Lowering our income even more.
Its just not feasible.
Growing up, my Father worked and my Mother was a stay at home Mom.
Thats no longer feasible either.
So you have to choose...live somewhat "comfortably" with no kids
OR
Have kids and struggle to get by financially
Do you have a lot of debt?
@@glitterstarbeau student loan debt. That’s about it
@@kfed8599 Have one car, small house, stop eating fast food and junk food. You can make healthy delicious homemade meals for cheap with beans, rice, and lentils. Stop buying crap you don't need. It's doable if you save and budget for it. Don't give up and say "I can't do it" that's how they win. We have to try harder.
@@kfed8599 I don't have that... yet. Is that a bad thing?
I’m debt free, single no kids. My life is stress free. Own my own house, car, etc. I can afford to have kids. I choose to not have kids. I can’t stand the current ones that scream in shopping malls, and grocery stores; let alone in my own house!
I don't want kids because I don't have the desire. I really do not want the responsibility of children. In this world, it's hard to raise children. I don't want the guilt of feeling that I failed as a parent. It's just too much. You can have perfect parents and still turn out as a menace to society. No thanks
My parents had three kids and all the help in the world they could get. My wife and I had a child and within a day my dad said “my diaper changing days are over”. My wife and I have to do everything ourselves. We are stressed all the time and always tired. Raising a kid is exhausting and the financial strain is real.
super funny
@@cindyjolly9114how is this funny?
@@SweetVany13The dad's reaction
@@marcvslicinivscrassvs7536 oh 😂, but it kind of sucks when grand parents don't want to help. Not all the time at least every couple of weeks they take the grand kids. It helps them bond together. Also having kids around is good for the aging minds.
Raising a child is easy.. try raising two kids about the same age 😂
I hear a lot of younger people, who's parents were atrocious, stating they're never having kids. This last 10-15 years of parenting style has turned off a lot of their own kids to having kids
@@AdornamentDesigns bingo. Lots of parents were poorly parented themselves. They don't have good role models...
@@AdornamentDesigns it's not the past decade, it's the abuse that many boomers etc. were exposed to that they in turn inflicted on their children
My parents were stressed constantly, i dont want to bring kids into an environment like that.
@@jayc342009the children create the stress
For sure our parents were probably not aware back in the day that you should probably heal your trauma before being a parent so you don't pass it down. A lot of people nowadays are realizing that, at least.
No thanks. If I have kid I'm forfeiting the small bit of mental and financial freedom I do have.
Emphasis on small
In a competitive society, children are deadweight and a burden. It’s as simple as that.
Bingo
Depends, give them milk, candy and a pickaxe, you have a new worker you can pay an amount they don't understand as being fair or unfair! The children yearn for the mines...
@@ChefBuckeye😂😂😂
definitely burdens
WOW 😳🫢
I don't have a maternal instinct - I don't want to ever get pregnant. No one seems to talk about that - everyone just assumes we're choosing not to have kids for every other reason other than simply not liking the idea of being pregnant/giving birth and being in the presence of a child non-stop for 18 years (plus another 10 because most kids can't afford to leave home at 18 any more). I just have no wish to procreate, simple.
And thats ok
Thank you. Unsure why that's so hard for normies to grasp this concept.
The question still stays. Why did people stop wanting to have kids?
To want kids is biological.
Why are people stopping?
@@agnediciuniene9861 it's unsafe for many women and girls to give birth, especially in red states like TX with effective abortion bans and limited healthcare options
Same. I can’t stand the sound of kids yelling or crying. I can’t stand looking at diapers or strollers. The thought of taking care of a little helpless human is just repulsive. I’ve taken care of elderly people and I don’t mind it, but babies I just can’t.
Having a shrinking population is only worrisome because our economy is dependent on infinite growth.
Yup the market doesn’t care about population growth - there’s a natural ebb and flow to things. Individuals have our own needs and desires.
AI is here. Just in time.
@@hallhv01 Just in time to what? Fix everything? Make more workers obsolete in their jobs? I am torn between thinking AI is incredible and AI is just a sophisticated Mad Lib generator.
Which is why it's a better time than ever to invest in ai robots to replace labor shortages
All our policies are based on increases growth rate from the populace. We are in a world of hurt if that doesnt happen. Only thing that may help is true automation.
I can barely afford a pet with skyrocketing food and vet prices, let alone a kid.
don't have no pet, get some friends or involve in community, Pets are an expense as much as a child and there's no Tax benefit
@@DonesdeMotivacion I like the idea of making more friends, and getting a few plants (which are cheaper than pets).
I don’t think we need to do anything about it. Having or not having a kid is a personal choice. Rich countries will simply import more people from poorer countries(immigration) with higher birthrates. Currently it’s Asia, eventually it will be Africa.
@@DonesdeMotivacionA pet costs as much as child? Where? Does the dog or cat need school supplies, clothes, food and go to college? No. You're crazy wrong.
@@didi7074 Per month, per pound body weight, no subsidies, all cost are on the pet caretaker. No free daycare (public school). Potentially average 15+ year commitment. May need to hire for various daily duties. May need boarding or pet sitting. No Medicare (any kid gets healthcare). Vet cost are not subsidized. You just happen to be completely ignorant about the expenses for responsible pet care. Yes, they can cost MORE than a pet child. Care costs $$$$ and pets involve a lot of daily TIME to manage.
I never wanted kids since I was 18, not even because of money, just really no general desire. Why do something with so much responsibility, and so expensive that I didn’t even want from the beginning
Sounds like buying a Ferrari with a low class salary. Hehe.
exactly, birth control is so much better now
I’m 29, married with two kids, one household income. It’s extremely hard not only because of financial but also to your mental health. I feel like the system is not setup for parents to thrive.
We had to make so much sacrifices to make sure our kids are good. Also there’s no one there to help you compared to having kids 20/30 years ago. Plus all the responsibility increases because there is just so much to worry about now.
The system is set up to turn your child into a state employee. Parents are disposable. The state will do the rest of the job.
About the same for us. Mindset shift though. Sacrificing things so your kids are good is partially the point.
@@tacsmithAgreed. I am basically poor, but I love taking my kids camping and to do fun stuff that we can afford. Watching them grow up and enjoy life is the best part! I love teaching them life skills and see them put into play. However, I understand parenting isn't for everyone!
20 30 years ago no one helped unless you have family or friends who can help.
Sounds like a major crisis coming for our future generations. Humans rapidly overpopulated the Earth 70 years ago. Humans weren't ready for those repercussions
Why would you want to bring more kids into this miserable world
Yeah I agree if we had a better society and new earth I would consider.
How does it get better if you don't have kids
@@vsperatos Ever heard of VHEMT? Look it up.
Says a super miserable person.
By not having to worry about taking care of kids? @@vsperatos
It takes a village to raise a child, and that village isn’t around anymore. Everyone is broke and exhausted.
We chose the DINK life for us, and it’s been great so far!
I think this is the real reason for decline in birth rates for sure
You create the village. It isn’t just there waiting for u.
Communities used to raise children. Now it's single parent mothers that want nothing to do with anyone's opinion about how they should raise their children.
@@Ninjagurl24Sure, but traditionally that is what a village was. You worked together to build things for your family line and pass it on and teach them to maintain it.
@@Ninjagurl24 Pay the village for their services.
“Fewer people” (not “less”), “fewer consumers”, (not “less”), “fewer kids” (not “less”), etc.
Right?
Hehe, it seems that fewer people actually know correct grammar these days... 🙂
You forgot to mention a 50% divorce rate, this is SUCH a critical factor to consider.
yeah but you don't divorce your children
Feminism (the propaganda of B S that it is) has ended America 😅
@@DonesdeMotivacion but they usually have less education
Probably because he’s actually educated on the issue. That 50% numbers is the total number regardless or age race or economic status. The actual percentage rate changes depending on several factors. For example partners who marry at an earlier age have a higher rate of success than partners who marry very young.
And Y T just deleted a bunch of comments from this thread
Houses: Cost 1/2 a million dollars
The Government: No idea, man
Houses sky high
realtors: You young people would afford it if you didn't buy avocado toast.
Some people have kids in appartements
@@CordeliaWagner1999 Yes, and masses have decided that if renting is going to keep exploding, no more serfs for the lords of Blackrock and Vanguard.
@@CordeliaWagner1999 Expensive houses mean expensive rents...
@@CordeliaWagner1999 hahaha he was referring to house in general. A roof to leave. That's for sure now it's very difficult to afford. And most of the people that want to have kids want to have at least the basic covered.
Grandparents said they wouldn’t help at all, also asked why we weren’t having a second. 😂
Yet they like to tell us their parents helped them profusely, we had fantastic relationships with our grandparents; I have no idea how our parents got like this. Also, they are just watching us struggle financially! No grip on how it was easier to get by and invest in bricks and mortar, it's gone! It is baffling, this won't be the same for my daughter.
The greatest generation was the greatest indeed even after surviving the war and working hard, they still had morivation to help around with grandchildren in their elderly age.
My parents raised us without the help of grandparents or relatives. Then again, this was in the 80s-90s when families were able to live on one income. Mom stayed at home to take care of us.😆 The times have changed.
My mom is still working at 63 and can't afford to retire by 65, so as a childless 41yr old I can't rely on her help for that simple fact
@@andromeda_25 omg the cruise thing is so real. Polluting our oceans 😂
F*** yeah I support and respect for anyone who choose not to have kids!
The idea that having children is a must in women is finally being lifted and a lot of us are taking breather and realizing we don’t need to go through all of that. I’m glad. Those companies are evil and can go to the can.
It was lifted a long time ago, you just lived in a bubble and are only realizing now what's happened...
You mean tin can robot and AI. We don’t need more workers when we’re losing jobs to robots and AI.
Problem is that when we are old there won’t be anyone to staff our nursing homes .. ☹️
@@justsomenobody889 Or there will be robots.
@@nightmareTomek Who do you think makes those Robots ? Santa ?
Didn't want to bring kids in this crap world
Exactly my thoughts. It’s not going to get any better for us peasants.
I am not ripping someone out of perfect nonexistence and sticking them in the dumpster fire.
Kind of you. Thoughtful.
Newsflash: it has always been a crap world. Didn’t stop humanity from having kids for all of human history
Government is gonna miss kids pulling out student loans
Nah, they'll just tax people. It'll get worse.
Here's an idea, stop sending your kids to these schools that scalp you for your money.
Nope. They will import and tax us to pay for them. It’s happening right now.
@@stevenknight6756Well, no more humans, no more slaves.
@@Jose04537You should check out the robots they got.There's really no need for so many people.Anymore, with the quantity and quality of robots about to hit the marketplace. The world is ready and waiting for them to start shipping.
Wars were fought over less.
Kids are too expensive and most men are not worthy of being husbands/fathers. Dating is a nightmare, I’m too busy working to willingly put myself through that type of unnecessary stress.
If you stop going for the top 10% of men who have all the options and just date a normal guy then maybe things will improve for you
Girl I feel this too. Lots of guys are still playing videogames in their 30s, can't keep a house clean.
........
I'm sure you believe that.
@@user-sm7pm1df3eLOL. Exactly... I literally can't deal with those type of guys. 😅
@@lau77771hh And you just weeded out a huge number of guys right then and there. There's a reason why you are single.
It sounds like most of the problems can be summed up as people having no confidence in the future.
@armorbearer9702,
Some people are not meant to be parents. There are parents that abuse and or neglect their children. Economy is not the only reason for not having children.
@@TheKhaliphaimaginary friends are not real buddy. Time to grow up and be an adult
Or a lot of us just simply don't want to give birth? Did you ever stop and think about that? Did you ever stop and think that maybe women get to make their own decisions for their own bodies?
@@UlexiteTVStoneLexite lol you sound SOO western. I thought feminism ended years ago man, move on
imagine how stupid someone has to be to think imaginary friends are real.
We have entered a spiral. The more double income no kids, the more things are priced for them, houses, cars, etc. If you have kids, you are falling behind very fast. We are fast approaching the event horizon where having kids is 100% disadvantage and not having kids is 300% advantage.
@@zwatwashdc inflation is not because of more people joining the workforce. Women have always worked.
@@UlexiteTVStoneLexite 🧐 women making as much or more than men is historically unique. The only pay gap that persists is for women with children. Most boomer families were single income for much of their early house buying and child rearing years. And this was affordable. This is not feasible today. Wow, your comment is breathtakingly nonsensical. 😧
Like it hasn't been there already 😏🙄
In my **unpopular** opinion, its a good thing, and we should focus more on AI and automation instead of pushing more immigration.
@@UlexiteTVStoneLexite in the 1950’s only about 15% of women worked, now only about 15% of women don’t work.
@@gadflyofhumanity_6847 agreed. we don't need more people, but better quality - of everything.
Turns out idiocracy wasn't just a fictional movie
@@NickWhite630 yeah that's why I haven't watched that movie, I don't like horror movies
I’ve been saying this for years LOL. The concept itself is scary because it’s true.
@@UlexiteTVStoneLexite From your other comments, I'd say you're more afraid to find out that you fit right in with the movie characters...
@@chronometer9931 then I would have to say that your reading comprehension skills are pretty bad.
I thought the movie wasn't very good, but it definitely resonated.
I’m sorry, but I view this as a good thing. It’s like a more gradual Thanos snap. Plus, I don’t want to have children. I’m scared of the process. It’s like having a Xenomorph inside your body.
Why are we going over this over and over? You can't force people to have kids to feed the machine. It's a personal choice, get over it.
Did you even watch the video? He wasn't even forcing anyone or telling people to have kids, he just showed why most people don't want kids
That nihilistic black pill of a take is why everything is starting to suck now
@@kingrobotnik6950 no in cels like y0u is why things are starting to suck.
Why do you think you get to tell people what to do? Your life is that bad that you have to try to shame other people?
@@kingrobotnik6950It’s true, though. Treating humans like livestock is unethical. Better to focus on encouraging people who have already chosen to have at least one child to have one more. Don’t reduce benefits of any kind per child until at least the fourth one. 🤔
@@kingrobotnik6950 He's not wrong. Why did his comment upset you so much? You can't deny reality.
80% of this problem is purely financial. Most people arent well off. Most people are paycheck to paycheck. This is just life now.
Very underrated comment
100%
I don't know why this is so hard for people to understand. Who wants to raise a kid in poverty AND isolation. We don't have a village like we used to.
Yeah, also healthcare is pretty pathetic in many places. You have to wait months for every appointment.
The wolves are mad that the sheep are not breeding.
Whenever there is a talk about having or not having kids, there is always some selfish person saying, "having kids is the most rewarding experience". This kind of people see the world only from their point of view and not from the kid's.
very true
Dating apps are not "tools that are meant to bring us closer together". They are tools that are meant to extract value from users by preying on their fundamental needs and deepest insecurities
@@frmcf yes & then take that data & sell it to the highest bidder for control & Ai human learning.
@@frmcf four of my cousins found their partners on dating apps. I found my husband online.
🙌🏾
Fr. People who seriously still believe that dating apps are "meant to bring people together" are extremely delulu.
@@frmcf just because they haven't worked for you doesn't mean they don't work for anyone else
The world has a problem: it’s running out of meat for the grinder
💯💯 how dare we exercise our freedom in a so called free country that claims some creator gave us free will as well. How dare we use it!!!
💥Bingo 💥Keno 💥Uno
That's positive.
The real reason is Governments around the world that is making it harder for ppl to live while they live luxurious lives.
This is so true. They are the ones who make us miserable with financial laws they put just to enrich themselves.
Yea I'd be a fool to have a kid living in poverty
The expenses are outrages, I’m an engineer and my wife is pediatric resident. We live frugally and save a lot, live in an affordable place and we see all the expenses for just one baby and it’s astronomical.
the wife staying home and even having the baby at home used to be affordable. But, your wife must high sky-high education debt.
@andylopez just out of interest, can you mention what some of the expenses are?
@@mortenovergaard7397 hi of course, while we registered we are getting the large item ourselves. Stroller, car seat, cameras, furniture, so forth. This has been a couple of thousand, mind you we are getting affordable to at best mid range brands. Getting the baby on my insurance is an extra $200 a month. Next the every week expenses from food, diapers, and the worse of all child care, for my area it’s a minimum of $1200 a month, for again not the best. There’s other areas, I broke it down for first two years of total cost/month for my situation and it was around an extra $2089 a month.
@genkiferal7178 why does the wife need to stay home? Why can't the husband? Also last time I checked, an engineering degree is also quite costly, Why aren't you asking this man if he also has student loan debt? Your comment wreaks of sexism
@@mortenovergaard7397 Food. Rent/mortgage. Transportation to work. Health insurance. Debt payments from education required to get good jobs. These things alone break most people.
if an economic system needs infinite growth of participants to sustain itself its called a pyramid scheme
Oooh excellent point!!
No you just don't understand basic economics...
@chronometer9931 explain why wages haven't kept up with inflation or housing costs then, oh dear people don't want to live pay check to pay check to have kids and still not able to send them to college, having kids is for the rich now or the poor who dgaf abt their kids future
yea infinite growth is embarrassing to even think about. Sustaining the exact same input / output is peak efficiency. we need a static population and to sustain everything.
At that point human progression can be the main focus, science and going to other planets etc
This isn’t about infinite growth, it’s about at least keeping the same number of people, thus replacement rate of 2.1 births per couple requirement. Now, if you want a scheme, look at corporate growth expectations. There’s a finite amount of people to sell to. Eventually the corporation cannot grow further and they need to learn to be satisfied with a company that doesn’t change in size.
As someone who has one baby, it’s exhausting. We live in a a modern world where we can stimulate our brains and have so many interests and hobbies, I can see how it’s difficult convincing (especially women) people to give up a cushy live we are barely affording to decades of stress when it comes to having children. I think perspectives have changed and the reality of what it’s like having children has come to light. I love my child to death and he is my entire world, but I’m not going to lie, I am the most exhausted/stressed I’ve ever been in my entire life. You can love your child unconditionally and still be so tired to drag yourself out of bed. Two things can be true at the same time.
Too many deadbeats, and maybe women are realizing it's not worth it to go through all that alone.
The title of deadbeats isn't just exclusive to just fathers you know
>"as someone who wants to be a parent"
>"how much is it going to cost our future if we stop becoming parents"
Sounds like a ponzi scheme
Idk, watching capitalism slowly implode because I wanna be child free right now is somewhat satisfying. Bring on Swedish and Norway Socialism.
Crony capitalism?
Not doable in the US .
Scandinavian ''socialism'' is actually just capitalism that is heavily taxed and used to take care of the average citizen.
As a woman in Texas, it’s terrifying to become pregnant. I WANT to be a mother, but so many pregnant people in states with abortion bans have been denied life saving care, causing them to have permanent medical damage or even die.
This. Even before the repeal of Roe, the maternity death rate in the US was on par with 3rd world countries. It's now guaranteed to be even higher. Besides the financial strain, who really wants to gamble their long term health or entire life? Especially knowing the life-saving care you need is possible but just not for you, not in this country. And it's not like adoption is an easy or cheap process either. Better for most to just not have kids at all.
This. Can't believe it wasn't mentioned even once in this video.
@@MPisme33 not to mention if either you or your child are disabled, there's very little protections in place for either of you whether that's at home, work, school, etc. 😭 Makes no sense to take any of these risks.
Bullshit. Korea allowed abortion recently and the number of birth are falling even faster.
SAME. I’m in Florida.
I would never bring a child into this world
Same here 👋
I think a part of it is a cultural mindset shift where my generation uses more critical thinking and starts realizing, I don’t have to live the same way our parents lived, we don’t have to conform to their aspirations, we actually consider the risks and benefits of what creating a whole new human being entails.
Well said
Do the boomers even really care? They seem so incredibly self centered...
exactly critical thinkiing
Less people means more resources. That's good.
More resources for who ?
@@lcc6149 Those who are left. duh
@@OldManGameTrolling You really think we could get more resources ? What a shame the same elite will take these resources.
I can afford to have kids, but I don’t want to be a slave to corporate America for another 20 years so my kids can eat. I wanna retire early and enjoy this earthly experience.
Mistake of a lifetime. When you are old you will regret it.
Having a wife and children create a testament to who you are and your experiences which will continue to live on for many generations.
You took the words .......
@@LysanderSA"You will regret not working yourself to the bone" isn't the gotcha you think it is lol
@@iwiffitthitotonacc4673 Except he's not wrong. Lasting joy requires sacrifice and effort. Hedonism is easy but ultimately unfulfilling.
I've had months where I couldn't afford food. Why the hell would I want to bring life into my situation?
such a wise person
Many of us simply just don't want kids. It's not something we want to do. My husband and I are 36. We don't want kids.
When u get older you may regret... or not 😅
@@ers-br no I wont. We don't want kids. We have no interest in having kids. Us getting older isn't going to change that
@@UlexiteTVStoneLexite What if your parents had thought like that about having you
@@ellenaivanovych4916weird argument. What’s your point?
the point is that in time people with no kids will become history and people who succesfuly rise kids will build the history. The system will auto-regulate itself.
I'm in the no kid club. As soon as you have kids. You start living for your kids not yourself.
Yes. Also the people who say that is wonderful tend to think that what works for them is a one size fits all.
I just say "Ask communist Romania."
You say this as if living for yourself is the goal.
@@tacsmith its my goal.
I found life before having a kid was really boring. There is nothing on earth that compares to your baby smiling at you
@@Chris-pq3wpTbh this argument just sounds like you're a boring person who couldn't have a worthy life rather than makes one feel excited for a kiddo. And I'm someone who wants kids. xD
The reason is not that tricky, we're not in the 50's anymore and working 9-5s is barely keeping myself survive.
My father who bought the house i live in, in 1985 was 2.5 times his wages to afford, now its bloody 50 years to pay off hence back then having more kids was easily doable
NOW let's be HONEST, it's not just economy. The poorest and least educated people have many more kids. Previous generarions were starving and yet... they still had kids to help them with work. Fortunately, women can choose now and many people just don't want them 🤷♂️ Smart people realize it's not worth the stress, all the sacrifices and financial burden. We have different goals nowadays and that's not inherently bad, but it may be difficult to solve and sustain in future.
Idiocracy was a documentary
Agreed. I think one of the things this guy is not talking about is that a lot of people don't want kids because they don't like children and don't want their lifestyle changed. Most people don't want to change diapers, be stuck at home, have to do drive back and forth to schools, kids sports or become soccer moms or soccer dads.
There are studies that show that people who have kids are miserable. Not saying they don't love their kids but they will tell you they don't like their children. They envy their childless and single friends.
@@9395gb Exactly! I also think this is very overlooked factor. There don’t even have to be large scale studies for seeing this. If you compare what can childless person do and afford in their free time vs hectic and stresfull life of parents it’s quite obvious. Some might enjoy raising kids, but many don’t want to and it’s very understandable.
its not difficult to understand.. . cost of living has gone up.. but wages down...so realistically speaking why would anyone bring a child into this failing society just to have them struggle more than we did. Just because someone wants to pass on their name?
Excuses and more excuses.
@@ellenaivanovych4916 you don't get to make decisions for other people. You don't get to criticize other people's personal decisions for their own lives because it's not your life buddy.
@ellen sound reasons for not doing an irresponsible thing and you call them excuses??? Get a life!
@@jeltoninc.8542 this guy is just an in cel
@@UlexiteTVStoneLexite you understand that if everybody stops having kids that leads to extinction, right? It’s everyone’s right to have or not have their lifestyle. But that by no means that people are free from criticism. Stop being so damn soft.
Love how people like to say things like “sometime later in your life you may change your priorities about what you want in life”… as if the choice to be childfree has some impending doom. No my priorities are to have a peaceful, stress-free, simple life and those priorities aren’t changing.
100%, couldn’t of said it any better
Shouldn't live life worrying about what you might regret anyway. You don't know what you might regret so just make the best decision you can right now.
I mean. People do change their priorities later in life. Nothing wrong with stating so.
@@tacsmithno
The more I understand life, the more I don't want kid. BTW, I love children and happy for those who has and be able to afford having them.
This world is just becoming more problematic every single day. I rather not bring a kid into a world that they may not even have a future.
The world is evil and difficult. That's why we, smart people, are not having kids.
Yeah. It was much better during the cold war, and ww2, and genghis khan, and famines and plagues.
You are not a smart person, do not kid yourself.
@@txdmskthe world was evil then too, now there’s more knowledge out there to see what it is really(no religion, corruption, etc). I think it’s realization of what humans are and the loss of hope in change of our base nature
@@txdmskIt was bad now and now it’s worse now
@@txdmsk Yeah it was better, because the point of view is worldwide, not limited to specific periods of time, because I can take all the bad things that happened in the entire human history and say "oh, it was so bad".
Why has our generation stopped having kids?
Simple. Instability!
Most men dont help, others just bail all together. Moms are advising their daughters to really think it through and opening their eyes to how it really is to raise children without support. Married single mom syndrome is real.
Because of today's social media, the average young woman is far more entitled than her grandma was. Young men have to work 10x as hard as their grandpa did, just to "win" the affections of young women who aren't even HALF as good as their grandma was. Hoe-flation.
I don't envy anyone in the world of dating, either, and I day that as someone who's been a married single mom. I don't think either scenario is good. 😮
@@BoatMurderedDFtheir Grandmas couldn’t even open bank accounts or own property. Their only choice for survival was to get married. And your idea of a good woman is one who puts the needs of her husband and kid first and is practically a servant. It was our grandmothers who told us to get educations and jobs so we wouldn’t have to live the way they did.
The “extra” effort guys have to put in now is proving they can provide more than just money. Women can do that on their own. Now we want a partner who can put in an equal amount of child rearing, housework, emotional maintenance…etc.
meanwhile some guys are still stuck on the idea that all they have to do is bring in money, take out the trash and make occasional repairs around the house.
Single women are statistically happier than single men and married women.
It says something when married men and single women are the happiest groups
@@BoatMurderedDFperfect example of why women choose 4b
Redpilled @@BoatMurderedDF
I never wanted to have children since I was 17 , now I’m 50 and happy that I don’t have any. Love my child free lifestyle.
Yesss!
Same!
And you won’t have to put up with them inviting you over for Christmas…or visiting you when you hit the nursing home…winner…🎉
@@pattykake7195that’s such an ignorant and unnecessary comment. So many elderly in the nursing homes are lonely because their kids don’t visit them. You know those kids will also have to work and maintain a family, will have hobbies, might live on the other side of the country for work, etc. If you are child free and you know that’s what you want from a young age, then you cultivate friendships that will last a lifetime and be there for you even when you are old. Also there is no guarantee that your kid is born healthy to be able to take care of you, or doesn’t mingle with the wrong crowds and become a substance dependent adult, or even survives until you are old, since accidents happen. And last but not least… bringing a child to this world only so that you are potentially not lonely when you are old is beyond selfish. But sure, go off…
@@necessarydrama No guarantees your cultivated friends won’t get something terminal either, start smoking pot, or find a hobby more interesting than you. Life is a lottery isn’t it…we all have to roll the dice, hope for the best, and teach our kids to stay away from ignorant unnecessary people…🎲.
My mom doesn’t want to help my husband and I raise kids so I’m not having any. If I had a better support system then maybe. But my dad, brother suffers from addiction . My sister feels stressed with life. I was a parentified child…. I don’t have time for dysfunction
If children being murdered in school is a "part of life" in america, that's just one more reason not to bring more suffering into the world (america)
It’s not a part of life though? It’s a tragedy every single time. And it’s still shocking.
@@Ben-CatGray-StultzI hate to say it but as an American, school shootings are very normalized at this point to where nobody is surprised when they happen anymore. Yes they are tragedies and no child deserves to grow up with that fear but people don’t take them as seriously or else we’d do something about them by now.
@@pumpkinpai1725 if it was truly normalized then it wouldn’t be reported in the news anymore. It’s constantly in the news. Meaning it’s still devastating
@@pumpkinpai1725 Nah it’s just every country is on our meat about it even though kids are murdered in school in many other countries as well. It’s just not with a gun.
and killers every killer has a parent
Best decision in my life. NO KIDS. And the second best decision is working less. Money they print, time they don' t.
You’re sad and you know it lol
And this is why people like you complain about all these things, it’s cause you don’t try and do you end up living a sad wasteful life.
And our money us worth even less, not to mention it's made up anyway, at least time is real
@@adammoye5978 the opposite
A hedonistic take at best. Time doing nothing of worth quickly makes a man worthless.
I'd rather die than have kids... I enjoy my life
Saaaammees! ❤
Right? And with no more roe v wade you definitely might die giving birth. Why would anyone ever get pregnant on purpose?
I definitely enjoy my life more with a child, but it’s a lot of work!
@@ladyeowyn42and thats also ok too
@@ladyeowyn42To each their own.
Even if i had a home, large income and lived in a safe neighborhood, met the love of my life. Good schools. Green sustainable environment, etc.
I still don’t want kids.
I had a kid at 23 years old. New generations are rethinking priorities-focusing on financial stability, and personal freedom before considering kids, if at all.
That's how it should be. Think before acting.
Children gives purpose and humanity for the majority of people. The future is very bleak.
@@ageless1003 Why is that how it should be? What is the ethically objective reason for finances and personal freedom being inherently more important than having children?
Honestly is it so bad that we might change our nature as the world itself grows and shifts? We know these lifestyles are ultimately unsustainable and with more people comes more cost. Why have children if we only drag them to the same depressing fate as our own. Children should be cherished and loved not used as labour mules for a broken system.
@@LordDRockMusic having children is a long term commitment and should be thought through at every levels. With changing world order, increased competition for basic things like food, water and clean air, exhausting yourself to bring an innocent soul in this world should be worth it. As it stands, when you look at macro level - it ain't worth it !!!
when we used to be in the gold standard we had one man in the work force
now even the dog needs to work just to survive
Dogs selling foot pics on their OnlyPaws.
Yeah my cat now has to pay rent and she doesn’t even hold a job
@@gabakusa no. Women have always worked
@@UlexiteTVStoneLexitenot in America of 1950s all these tradLARPers adore
@@VerminaeSupremacy yes they did. The poor women worked.
Having kids is sooooo horribly overrated and I'm so glad people are now waking up to this fact and that other lifestyles exist and pursuing their OWN happiness and not remain in this mold that traditional society wanted us all to fit in.
You are so wrong. Kids are not over rated you been brainwashed to think this way.
@Jfokes says you, having kids is selfish. My non existent kids are doing fine remaining non existent.
@@HereToSuffer247 having kids is selfish?? Hahahaha yeah to bring another life into this world and doing everything for them until they become adults is the most non selfish thing you can do. I have kids I have a great life and so do they. Just because you’re miserable doesn’t mean the rest of us are.
If you're so happy being a parent then why are you here judging us? Don't you want to spend time with your kids instead of hassling people who didn't make the same choice as you. We are not miserable either because if we were miserable without kids then we would have them. People can still have a fulfilling life without children. I'm sorry if that comes as a shock to you.
@@RC093didnt the op just say having kids is overrated and alternative lifestyles are better? Is this not judgement?
I don't understand why ANY sane person wants kids.
wtf
Yeah. like people don't even question having kids which is actually a active thing. Not having kids is a passive thing.
don't judge all people by your parents
@@mkf628 In my case I judge every parents, even the richest ones as insane.
I don't want a kid, I want a friend or someone in my life. Can't even have that.
😂
Kids become both. And are probably the only ones who are pre disposed to want a good relationship with you.
it’s not your fault, society is broken, capitalism is to blame.
I want the same thing I have started to try to find a friend to be with. My goal is to be with someone but no kids. Instead, pets. But it's hard to find someone in my age range. I'm 23
@@tacsmithnot all of them
20 years ago my daughter was born, we decided my wife would give up her well paid city job, which cut our income by half. I'm in a well paid career so I carried the burden. My wife never went back to the same job, they even begged her to come back but she refused. She stayed home until our daughter started school and then retrained a nursery school assistant as the hours and light workload meant she could be home when same time as our daughter. We know it hit our pensions and savings, we couldn't have nice vacations and we have to make do with things but it make us more frugal with our money but we made sacrifices we didn't expect in order to have a child. With social media and informtion younger generations are very much aware of the sacrifices I wasn't when I was their age and I can fully understand why they dont' want to give up the money , vacations, etc.
Right and that was for one child, the problem now is that you have to invest so much into each kid for them to have a chance in this competitive society just look at south korea with their insane tuition system
What money? What vacations? You were privelaged, truly
gen x here, I knew kids were expensive when I was younger. Women loose their career and education
Some people just don’t want kids. It could be that we were just in a big population boom for the last hundred years and now it’s starting to stabilize. Either way everything will be fine. This isn’t the end of humanity.
Yes people are living longer - Boomers in particular… this is putting economic pressure on the younger generations. Housing supply not keeping up with demand, older people refuse to retire so younger people aren’t moving up in our careers as quickly. Etc etc. it will be okay. Eventually the Boomers will all retire and pass away. There will be a wealth transfer back but unfortunately, in the meantime the elderly extract wealth from us younger poorer workers through social security taxes. That’s a drain on working family age.
As our world is on fire and WW3 is immenent...
Some people just never wanted kids, so we’re NOT doing it.