Love it! Looking forward to November symposium. That De Vere is the author actually makes the plays even more lovely and profound, not less! Great stuff!
How many of the plays were presented first for the general public and how many were first presented for a noble house or royalty? That may shed some light.
What stood out to me is that Shakespeare penned the line, “Neither borrower nor lender be for loan oft loses both itself and friend.” yet one of Shaksper’s vocations was money lender.
Fascinating presentations, that was a great symposium. Would it be possible to get a separate upload of Robert Prechter's presentation on Thomas Nashe? I would like to share this with some people.
Small point: I think when we are laying out facts on Shaksper, we should state clearly and upfront that he was in the theater company most associated with Shakespeare’s plays.
Pretty hard evidence, like a tual legal documents about 10 individual ones between 1599 and 1632 naming him as a leaseholder of the globe and blackfriars. You can see the original docs on shakespeare documented. Evidence somewhat harder than counting numbers along a page or reading some idiotic book recently published
In addition he was named as a player to be paid in red cloth along with other players for a procession for king james. It is absurd that this ws was a noble devere being listed second as a player in which case you will have to invenf a third person. 1,the stratford man, almost always called william shakespeare in london, whose brother edmund was an a tor in london. 2, an actor almost always called william shakespeare in london, abouf which we know nothing about. 3, a writer almost always known as william shakespeare. Alternatively you could refer to william shakespeare of stratford upon avon, actor, theatre share owner, and the greatest writer of all time. Oh but hes an Englishman, we cant have that, he must be evil, gay, or both and definately not a hero from English history
Wow. Mr. McNeal's presentation was a masterful summary -- I had never known about Rosencrantz and Guildenstern being actual people's names! Overall I really wish I could have been there!
Yes, that "first heire of my invention" is a key phrase; I like to think the writer's "how the world will censure me for choosing so strong a proppe" is another revealing phrase; what business would a Stratford merchant have "choosing" the young earl Southampton as a mere "proppe?" The passage would be an impudence from a commoner who might rather beg the favor of Southampton's patronage on bended knee. (But Oxford referred to Cecil, Lord Burghley as a "prop" of the realm in a private letter to Burghley--who was Oxford's inferior in rank.)
After all these Oxfordian videos, I have this question--What is the REAL WORLD derivation of the "Shaksper/Shakespere/Shaxper" surname? How many families shared this real world version surname during the renaissance?
I dont know how anyone could look at Shaksper and think he wrote the plays. I mean, it's just so absurd. He took no credit for them? The whole thing is an absurd completely untenable farce.
Wait... don't you support a guy who never took credit for the works of Shakespeare? And when he signed his name to the dedication of Venus and Adonis, printed by a guy he grew up with, that's him taking credit.
i am suggesting he is not the author. he had co writers and ghost writers. RE : A CHRISTMAS CAROL. How could he have concieved, written, had illustrated and set up for print, had printed and delivered to the shops IN SIX WEEKS
Great work. The mountain keeps growing .
Love it! Looking forward to November symposium. That De Vere is the author actually makes the plays even more lovely and profound, not less! Great stuff!
Yes Lear and Macbeth, lovely
Thanks to all the contributors. This was wonderful.
How many of the plays were presented first for the general public and how many were first presented for a noble house or royalty? That may shed some light.
They were all shown at Court first. Many were not published until decades later.
Excellent job!
Well-paced, succinct summary of the contrasting cases for Shaksper and Edward de Vere, by Alex McNeil.
What stood out to me is that Shakespeare penned the line, “Neither borrower nor lender be for loan oft loses both itself and friend.” yet one of Shaksper’s vocations was money lender.
Well spotted.
Which character did he have say that?
@@Jeffhowardmeade Polonius, who was later killed hahhaah
Fascinating presentations, that was a great symposium.
Would it be possible to get a separate upload of Robert Prechter's presentation on Thomas Nashe? I would like to share this with some people.
Thank you for watching! Individual videos will be available over the next couple of days.
Small point: I think when we are laying out facts on Shaksper, we should state clearly and upfront that he was in the theater company most associated with Shakespeare’s plays.
Is there actually any hard evidence that Shaksper was actually a member of the the theater company that is most associated with Shake-speare's plays?
@@stevenhershkowitz2265Yes. Lots of it.
Pretty hard evidence, like a tual legal documents about 10 individual ones between 1599 and 1632 naming him as a leaseholder of the globe and blackfriars. You can see the original docs on shakespeare documented. Evidence somewhat harder than counting numbers along a page or reading some idiotic book recently published
In addition he was named as a player to be paid in red cloth along with other players for a procession for king james. It is absurd that this ws was a noble devere being listed second as a player in which case you will have to invenf a third person. 1,the stratford man, almost always called william shakespeare in london, whose brother edmund was an a tor in london. 2, an actor almost always called william shakespeare in london, abouf which we know nothing about. 3, a writer almost always known as william shakespeare. Alternatively you could refer to william shakespeare of stratford upon avon, actor, theatre share owner, and the greatest writer of all time. Oh but hes an Englishman, we cant have that, he must be evil, gay, or both and definately not a hero from English history
Wow. Mr. McNeal's presentation was a masterful summary -- I had never known about Rosencrantz and Guildenstern being actual people's names! Overall I really wish I could have been there!
If the attribution to William Shaksper was accepted and legal, wouldn't Shaksper's heirs received continued compensation?
No.
They didn't even get a copy of the folio.
Yes, that "first heire of my invention" is a key phrase; I like to think the writer's "how the world will censure me for choosing so strong a proppe" is another revealing phrase; what business would a Stratford merchant have "choosing" the young earl Southampton as a mere "proppe?" The passage would be an impudence from a commoner who might rather beg the favor of Southampton's patronage on bended knee. (But Oxford referred to Cecil, Lord Burghley as a "prop" of the realm in a private letter to Burghley--who was Oxford's inferior in rank.)
Do we know why Drayton was in Stratford?
He was from Warwickshire. Shakespeare's son-in-law was his physician.
After all these Oxfordian videos, I have this question--What is the REAL WORLD derivation of the "Shaksper/Shakespere/Shaxper" surname? How many families shared this real world version surname during the renaissance?
I dont know how anyone could look at Shaksper and think he wrote the plays. I mean, it's just so absurd. He took no credit for them? The whole thing is an absurd completely untenable farce.
Wait... don't you support a guy who never took credit for the works of Shakespeare?
And when he signed his name to the dedication of Venus and Adonis, printed by a guy he grew up with, that's him taking credit.
i am suggesting he is not the author. he had co writers and ghost writers. RE : A CHRISTMAS CAROL. How could he have concieved, written, had illustrated and set up for print, had printed and delivered to the shops IN SIX WEEKS