Froskurinn really stepping up the dress up level, looks good. It's nice to see that despite very harsh criticism over the years she has been able to still take it and also respond to it in a very gracious way. GJ!
Don't get me wrong, kingzone was definitely a bigger triumph but EU smashing NA will always feel better to watch. World 2015 week 2 group stage FNC vs Cloud 9, oh its just simply orgasmic.
I'm an FNC fan but let me explain. FNC beating KZ was incredible, but it's also kind of luck - I mean not because they had to do everything perfect to not have KZ retake control, but if KZ was really trying - it wouldn't have happened in the first place. NA vs. EU is much more competitive, there wasn't a lot of lucky/cheese for FNC in the early game like against KZ, this was just straight up FNC being better than TL at every point of the game, in every lane.
I was waiting the upload of this game by LoL Esports to read the comments trash talking about NA. I am not disappointed ! At this rate, NA at Worlds should be restricted to only two spots (one in Group Stage, one in Knockout Stage) ; and LMS and VCS should have one more spot...
Nice for NA to get some salt back though, they have been throwing it at EU since RR, a tournament that is probably no more than a footnote on EU's calendar....
I think most people forget FNC didnt make MSI last year, because they had a new player on the roster and were still learning to play and adapt as a team. TL, while has some veterans is their first time playing internationally as a unit. They made poor judgement calls and bronze mistakes, they were even winning the early game against KZ before blowing it. As an NA fan Im disapointed, but I know they will do better moving forward. I hope FNC does well and represents the west.
Nah fnatic represents EU not "the west". Just like Kz represents korea and not "the east". NA teams are dogshit just like their playerbase. Just funny how NA players switch sides just because they aren't winning.
do you see how bad doublelift's team has been playing these 4 games? he was carrying so hard on jhin the first day but you can't do much when your team is inting
Nathan Houser the whole team is playin for doublelift look how many 4 man ganks he need so plz stop talkin man DL is trash every EU adc is better EU > NA deal with it and be happy that fkn riot is putting so much money on NA and not on EU
TOXIC EU you're obviously trolling if you think that lmao, as much as I love rekless he's been playing like complete dogshit this tournament, while doublelift--excluding the 2nd kz game--has been doing very well
I wish they just relegate NA to a wildcard region for worlds after this terrible performance at MSI. It hurts me to says this because I am a NA player but they are absolutely awful. It seems like they learn from G2 on how to prepare for a big tournament which is do nothing except go on vacation.
Well here you have the only korean team in years that didn't pass worlds quarters so maybe RNG or FW have a chance. I cheer for FNC but I don't see them win :')
I am FW fanboy right now (FW is always knowed as the single team who can beat any korean team with their style), i think they have 30% chance to take it, FNC maybe have a chance to make final (but that means that koreans are in final). PS: it is so funny NA got a bye on play-in this year and LMS not (Riot was scared to demote NA LCS on play-ins cause they will not qualify hahah)
Sakyron Well i watch espoert since season 3 Worlds, i always like FW cause they can shutdown koreans (not my favorites, but still), but as a fan gotta stick to my region (EU). As first comment says: I am happy with any non-korean team to win, but i rather see LMS win than LPL and NA.
2015 When TSM get junked -> send CLG ! 2016 CLG performs but get destroyed by SKT in final -> bruh TSM is better 2017 TSM get smashed by Wildcard and doesn't go in group stages -> pfff next year TL will go and perform 2018 TL starts 0-4 -> fans want C9 without waiting for the end but if TL come back they will be like "yeah I always knew they were our champions :D" RIDICULOUS...
Sakyon it is like an endless cycle for majority of the NA fans, one day I am just hoping one day, they will realise that NA is too bad for a major region, so they keep their hopes low,set their expectations for their teams like Wildcard region fans do, and focus on play-ins from now on
Kelvin Engee I mean, I think he's better than some. But I think Liquid is gonna struggle during summer. The reason they rose to the top was because the meta started to favor them with carry tops becoming irrelevant and it becoming a bottom lane driven contest, where DL hard carried his team. I think if it had stayed carry top, C9/Echo Fox would be at MSI
sauce8342 on a good day, he is 5th best. On his worst, he's one of the worst. Granted, for being a true NA mid, he's not bad. But he's not to the level of one of the best mids in the world or even region
I am TL fan.. their performance in MSI atm is really disappointing me.. so much mistakes that pros just shouldn't do.. it feels sad a bit to watch things like this..
Team Liquid wants to take MSI away from Echo Fox and 100Thieves then feed every team on the group stage and get caught out in the worst ways... so frustrated and disappointed
3 NA spots at worlds even if one of them plays at play in its just stupid. They'r a wildcard level region and jeopardizes the tournament's group stage. Seriously..
If you're cheering EU>NA you're an immature fan who is simply jumping on a bandwagon. Any mature EU or NA fan who has been through the heartache watching this esport for 6+ years have 1 common goal. Beat the east. Doesn't really matter which region does it. As an NA fan, I will be cheering for FNC to win it all.
you got a point, but i myself support NA vs any other region, but as soon as it comes down to EU vs NA, i hope they get rekt hard as per usual :P FNC FTW babyyyyyy and EU > NA
Indeed my first, but we are few, not many started watching at the very first split like us, and unfortunately this is becoming ridiculos with the Fanatism, Im a hardcore fan and since ever have I also supported every NA team that went to international events, East vs West is the real goal rivalry
I hate how TL made it. Fox looked spectacular right after it was impossible for them to get first and even 100 would be WAY better than TL now. TL WAS good, but Fox and 100 ARE good. So sad
TL is full of players who are just collecting a check. Pobelter's play clearly has declined. DL clearly doesn't care about winning.(bjegsen's reflections interview) Impact sold out years ago. Don't even get me started on Xmithie. Other than someone like Apollo, Xmithie takes the cake when it comes to stealing money. This is probably NA's 3rd or 4th best team when it comes competing internationally.
lol, FNC like "No worries"... haha If TL 3-0'd their region and are like this at MSI, doesn't say much about the region... I think NA trolls are going to be a little sheepish and quiet for a while. But there's Rift Rivals right? Like a top region cares too much about that.
NA sent their worst team to MSI. TL is literally the safest team in NA and only plays on enemy mistakes. Little to no proactive plays throughout playoff. What do people expect.
They start the game well..trying to make the plays.....but they eventually make a poor judgement call that normally results in a lead for the opponent.....then its all downhill..
Good or bad wouldn't be right in this case......id say they're just subpar at the moment....its really hard for them to pick up once they lost once....and losing consecutive games even makes it harder on them.....they're definetelly not bad...they just need to find they're own pace and review they're macro game to avoid making these questionable calls that keep them from winning.......
Today we will know who is the 1st, taiwan or korea, kz drop a game to FNC you know, top 4 is very clear but it just day 2 we still dont know who is the best, but RNG is not lol
MSI should be renamed as "Mid-Season Invitatio_ _ l" since NA does not even exist.
Liam860819 Ooo dont be too harsh on them lul
Uuhhhhhhj
Made my day
Oh may gawd...the heat is strong here xD...dude they saltier than the dead seas xDDD
violent
Dear NA, You can't buy international success.
I can smell the smoke from here
Nedda Dr hhhhhhhhhhhhhh luuuuuuuuuuuuuL
Dear Steve*
Gawd im 100% EU fnatic fan but dude chill the fk out...i can feel the heat from here xD
I guess we'll have to be satisfied with having invented the entire MOBA genre and having founded every company that matters in the space?
NA is like a wildcard region
Oh come on, that's an insult to the wildcard regions. :P
Not really, they got beaten by the wildcard regions. They are worse
xD
So we need a new Category for NA?
How about Freecard?
yeah they lose so many time to wild card i bet the only reason they still got direct pass cuz rito is from NA
Froskurinn really stepping up the dress up level, looks good. It's nice to see that despite very harsh criticism over the years she has been able to still take it and also respond to it in a very gracious way. GJ!
I love how many EU fans consider this the biggest victory although FNC just bested KZ OMEGALUL
EU>na
Meanwhile Steve is trying to buy Caps OMEGALUL
Hey look, a bandwagon
We are more hyped about the win over KZ ofourse, but this one is just bragging rights.
Don't get me wrong, kingzone was definitely a bigger triumph but EU smashing NA will always feel better to watch. World 2015 week 2 group stage FNC vs Cloud 9, oh its just simply orgasmic.
I'm an FNC fan but let me explain. FNC beating KZ was incredible, but it's also kind of luck - I mean not because they had to do everything perfect to not have KZ retake control, but if KZ was really trying - it wouldn't have happened in the first place. NA vs. EU is much more competitive, there wasn't a lot of lucky/cheese for FNC in the early game like against KZ, this was just straight up FNC being better than TL at every point of the game, in every lane.
I was waiting the upload of this game by LoL Esports to read the comments trash talking about NA. I am not disappointed !
At this rate, NA at Worlds should be restricted to only two spots (one in Group Stage, one in Knockout Stage) ; and LMS and VCS should have one more spot...
That's a great idea man, but I prefer to not be too cocky (I'm affraid of karma you know)
LMS true but VCS have to prove more
That Rekkles interview was great, so real.
The comment section was everything I was expecting.
Lotsa salt and EU>NA.
life is good
Nice for NA to get some salt back though, they have been throwing it at EU since RR, a tournament that is probably no more than a footnote on EU's calendar....
promezeus bvcc
Rickard Wiberg o
I think most people forget FNC didnt make MSI last year, because they had a new player on the roster and were still learning to play and adapt as a team.
TL, while has some veterans is their first time playing internationally as a unit. They made poor judgement calls and bronze mistakes, they were even winning the early game against KZ before blowing it.
As an NA fan Im disapointed, but I know they will do better moving forward. I hope FNC does well and represents the west.
True finally someone understanfs
Nah fnatic represents EU not "the west". Just like Kz represents korea and not "the east". NA teams are dogshit just like their playerbase. Just funny how NA players switch sides just because they aren't winning.
Arne H. Well calling an entire region and its fans "dogshit" invalidates your opinion. Thanks for stopping by, though
Caps showing pob that this is an international tournament
yes hahaha
he smashed him so hard
OF. Patrickzkie the funny thing was pobelter got so many 3 man ganks and still got smashed hahaha EU > NA
Rekkles so much more humble and down to earth compared the to Doublelift who never performs internationally and is so cocky
Zero De Knowl give me examples please? Apart from the times he properly cries on stage (not excusing that), I've never seen him refuse to shake hands.
do you see how bad doublelift's team has been playing these 4 games? he was carrying so hard on jhin the first day but you can't do much when your team is inting
Nathan Houser the whole team is playin for doublelift look how many 4 man ganks he need so plz stop talkin man DL is trash every EU adc is better EU > NA deal with it and be happy that fkn riot is putting so much money on NA and not on EU
TOXIC EU you're obviously trolling if you think that lmao, as much as I love rekless he's been playing like complete dogshit this tournament, while doublelift--excluding the 2nd kz game--has been doing very well
NA dissapoints once again
You don't think they performed as expected?
Having expectations at all
I wish they just relegate NA to a wildcard region for worlds after this terrible performance at MSI. It hurts me to says this because I am a NA player but they are absolutely awful. It seems like they learn from G2 on how to prepare for a big tournament which is do nothing except go on vacation.
Lan Nguyen at least G2 redeemed themselves at last MSI
but this msi isnt over yet guys
EU>NA
EU>NA ANYDAY
As always
Of course
You must be jocking, QUADRA for Rekkles
NA>EU
Do you even know how much we spend on military ?
Nice refresher course on disappointment before worlds.
I will never stop supporting NA, but I just get more and more disappointed each year.
Rito was so ashamed they didn't want to watch NA's defeat in high quality :'( 360p
Daniel Shih it’s because youtube hasn’t finished processing the 1080 yet
shhhhhhhhhhh i can believe what i want haha
Daniel Shih thats actually true. Rito favours NA anyday.
Beastman Rules my connection is so bad i can only watch in 240p.
Any team that wins msi that is not kr will make me a happy boy :)
Well here you have the only korean team in years that didn't pass worlds quarters so maybe RNG or FW have a chance. I cheer for FNC but I don't see them win :')
Sakyon I hope one of em will win.
I am FW fanboy right now (FW is always knowed as the single team who can beat any korean team with their style), i think they have 30% chance to take it, FNC maybe have a chance to make final (but that means that koreans are in final).
PS: it is so funny NA got a bye on play-in this year and LMS not (Riot was scared to demote NA LCS on play-ins cause they will not qualify hahah)
Hardy Star right now ? Does that mean that you are a bandwagoner ?
Sakyron Well i watch espoert since season 3 Worlds, i always like FW cause they can shutdown koreans (not my favorites, but still), but as a fan gotta stick to my region (EU).
As first comment says: I am happy with any non-korean team to win, but i rather see LMS win than LPL and NA.
FNC stomped TL with YASUO! OMEGALUL
Whats even better is that Pobelter thought he could pull off the same thing and failed awfully
ニクラス Yeah,
They almost defeat rng too with caps yasuo but they just have one misplay. XD
Every region can be the best region ~ Rekkles
Except NA, cause they are overrated every year ~ Me.
Ez for FNC Eu>Na
people are like if you send tsm C9 to msi will be fine, the problem is not TL, NA is just pure trash what are the champions of trash? Still trash
2015 When TSM get junked -> send CLG !
2016 CLG performs but get destroyed by SKT in final -> bruh TSM is better
2017 TSM get smashed by Wildcard and doesn't go in group stages -> pfff next year TL will go and perform
2018 TL starts 0-4 -> fans want C9 without waiting for the end but if TL come back they will be like "yeah I always knew they were our champions :D"
RIDICULOUS...
Sakyon it is like an endless cycle for majority of the NA fans, one day I am just hoping one day, they will realise that NA is too bad for a major region, so they keep their hopes low,set their expectations for their teams like Wildcard region fans do, and focus on play-ins from now on
EU>NA
I love that game came around midlaner again, from a
2015.
RIP NA’s hopes and dreams
Play master yi jungle guys
great interview! Rekkles is way more mature when he was a few years ago.
how did they clean up the arena from team Trash Losers so fast for the next game? wow..
Why no Shen?
NA needs their own worlds lol that way we can actually win a game.
Just like the world series. NA likes to stroke their own ego.
Casters hype up POB way too much. He's good but he's not a Jensen/Bjergsen. He's just pretty average
Jonathan Leake he isnt average either.. in na I would consider him bottom below all the eu and korean mids
Kelvin Engee I mean, I think he's better than some. But I think Liquid is gonna struggle during summer. The reason they rose to the top was because the meta started to favor them with carry tops becoming irrelevant and it becoming a bottom lane driven contest, where DL hard carried his team. I think if it had stayed carry top, C9/Echo Fox would be at MSI
Bjergsen good? You mean this KDA player who chokes every year at Worlds?
He used to be a lot better. Below average now.
sauce8342 on a good day, he is 5th best. On his worst, he's one of the worst. Granted, for being a true NA mid, he's not bad. But he's not to the level of one of the best mids in the world or even region
Why do Na get invited to international events OMEGALUL
that Rekkles interview tho 😍😍😍❤️
How annoying is the captions on the live broadcast
Lol caps and rekkles interactions are always fun to watch
EU>NA that's all
Renault Julien NA means North America right ?
I thought top 3 went to MSI. If I knew only 1st seed went, I would've known that EU TL wouldn't make it far
what headsets are they using ?
Cant forget Flash Wolves are Notorious for taking down the Korean champions, SKT from MSI past
What happened to Doublelift's fam may have took a toll on him and the team.
Is c9 the only team in na that can actually win internationally
Win ? No. Make it out of groups every year ? Yeah they manage to do it pretty well. But it's useless to speculate about them in MSI.
I'm just talking about winning almost as much as they lose. TL is embarrassing na with this performance
Instead of fighting each other for EU > NA, let's all celebrate how classy sjokz is
I am TL fan.. their performance in MSI atm is really disappointing me.. so much mistakes that pros just shouldn't do.. it feels sad a bit to watch things like this..
Man where is Olleh this entire tournament
Umm maybe DL should stop inting?
If they lose another two games they're in serious TroubleLift
Team Liquid = TSM 2.0 on international stage
lmao wait... Xmithie is level 11 @ 23 minutes.......
360 squad where you at?
EU: Learn For A new Strategy, Declare a bootcamp to korea
NA: on vacation
what A different
NAHAHAAHAHAHAAHHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH
Look how Peanut was smiling after they lost to Fanatic. lol..
0-4 starts and RNG KZ match coming, NA is so screwed
Team Liquid wants to take MSI away from Echo Fox and 100Thieves then feed every team on the group stage and get caught out in the worst ways... so frustrated and disappointed
Fox or 100t would've been more hype at msi
Perry Zoch every one of the NA teams would've been stomped.
3 NA spots at worlds even if one of them plays at play in its just stupid. They'r a wildcard level region and jeopardizes the tournament's group stage. Seriously..
Why people still Debating this? cmonn, EU is better an NA, Just realize it broo
Co mon riot... sell these bloddy chairs to yr members dudes.. geez man..
NA fanboys where are u?
If you're cheering EU>NA you're an immature fan who is simply jumping on a bandwagon. Any mature EU or NA fan who has been through the heartache watching this esport for 6+ years have 1 common goal. Beat the east. Doesn't really matter which region does it. As an NA fan, I will be cheering for FNC to win it all.
sauce8342 I can respect that
It's called rivalry. It exists to make the games more interesting. I mean the rivalry is the only reason i even watch these games.
you got a point, but i myself support NA vs any other region, but as soon as it comes down to EU vs NA, i hope they get rekt hard as per usual :P FNC FTW babyyyyyy and EU > NA
Indeed my first, but we are few, not many started watching at the very first split like us, and unfortunately this is becoming ridiculos with the Fanatism, Im a hardcore fan and since ever have I also supported every NA team that went to international events, East vs West is the real goal rivalry
EU>NA!
Rekkles better than Doublelift since everytime + best adc EVER. EU >>> NA.
I main yasuo and Azir and they both got picked mid :D
I hate how TL made it. Fox looked spectacular right after it was impossible for them to get first and even 100 would be WAY better than TL now. TL WAS good, but Fox and 100 ARE good. So sad
Turner Blick fox is just huni but toplane is tank meta so fox is trash.. they ended their season horribly and 100 isnt good either.. na is just a joke
Turner Blick C9 would be the only team better than TL rn.
you know TL trashed C9 right , so i don't think they would've done better maybe even worse
You're right actually, all those teams TL beat would be so much better than TL /s
I never expect fxxking NA
LAS > NA :'v
This is defiant proof that 100t threw the championship
Jordan Mckiver No.. NA is a joke region, this game is the defiant proof
NA Tutorial server OMEGALUL
TL is full of players who are just collecting a check. Pobelter's play clearly has declined. DL clearly doesn't care about winning.(bjegsen's reflections interview) Impact sold out years ago. Don't even get me started on Xmithie. Other than someone like Apollo, Xmithie takes the cake when it comes to stealing money.
This is probably NA's 3rd or 4th best team when it comes competing internationally.
EU > NA :D
NA OMEGALUL
Eu is the best na will hats
Eu > Asia cause that’s what this game actually was
wut lol
sauce8342 everyone on liquid is either Asian or Asian American.
NA < ALL
if only C9 had their old team and won Finals they wouldve made it out of groups
Should've sent TSM lol
Top gap..
And again... EU > NA hehe riot should focus more on EU and stop putting NA over everything
Bye Bye natrash
The comment section becomes ocean...
Caps just claps
We all hoping for the TL come back. But TL looks like Raptors in the playoffs 0-10. 😂😂.
hi
At least TSM wins at least 1 game at MSI lul
It's not over do.
MSI ´s not over
and you think TL can win vs RNG or KZ? lul
Nope but i also didn't think FNC would win vs Kz yet they did. You never know.
FNC is better than TL though......
lol, FNC like "No worries"... haha
If TL 3-0'd their region and are like this at MSI, doesn't say much about the region...
I think NA trolls are going to be a little sheepish and quiet for a while. But there's Rift Rivals right?
Like a top region cares too much about that.
We’ll see what they do on the next two days
Gl TL
did you see the teams they play against in the next 2 days? if TL dont wake up i do not believe they have good chances
TL look so easily tiltable
NA LUL
TL Trashlift
Doubellift is boosted af
team liquid playing like doodoo 100 thieves would've played much better here
timberwolves 4 lyfe tsm too
3.0
Renz o lol no, no they wouldn't they had so many chances and TSM is failed everytime.
timberwolves 4 lyfe The only NA team that coulda beat fnatic is echo fox
StarClay666 Echo Fox is the ULTIMATE team
The immaturity in this rivalry is pathetic
Well Rekkles was quite modest in his interview, it's just the comment section that looks like a war zone
Jani how wrong you are, bud
You sound NA to me
Eu>Na
NA sent their worst team to MSI. TL is literally the safest team in NA and only plays on enemy mistakes. Little to no proactive plays throughout playoff. What do people expect.
they were very proactive in their game vs kz
TSM SHOULDA WONNED LCS, they'd be thrashing right now
tl is winning early games but getting outpushed everytime
Winning early games?
They start the game well..trying to make the plays.....but they eventually make a poor judgement call that normally results in a lead for the opponent.....then its all downhill..
So they're bad basically?
Good or bad wouldn't be right in this case......id say they're just subpar at the moment....its really hard for them to pick up once they lost once....and losing consecutive games even makes it harder on them.....they're definetelly not bad...they just need to find they're own pace and review they're macro game to avoid making these questionable calls that keep them from winning.......
those 2 analyst randos in the middle of the desk are extremely annoying. Hes a Monte Cristo wannabe.
TL pure trash
Lulquid
NA Trash lul...
EU > NA know your place !!!
KOREA>TAIWAN>CHINA>EUROPE>VIETNAM>NORTH america.....
Tan Phan taiwan is on the top
Today we will know who is the 1st, taiwan or korea, kz drop a game to FNC you know, top 4 is very clear but it just day 2 we still dont know who is the best, but RNG is not lol
TAIWAN NO 1 idk why ppl consider FW wildcard region they always performed
If not TL but C9, there will be 4-0 instead
u gona name every na team till they all defeated by eu
xd
If not TL but ________....... blah blah blah
not even Freesm though
EU LCS < NA BRONZE V