I'm a business analyst with no professional experience but was a new grad. I had 63k starting out then I got a raise to 65k. This year I should be getting another raise to 70k.
@@mindfulmelaninI do want to make it clear that there are business analysts in all fields. My specific title is business systems analyst, so I'm a bit more technical. Without so much detail (unless you want that), I'm the person who tells developers what to do based off of approval from a project manager or product manager.
How did you land your job if you don’t mind me asking? I am in the process of leaving healthcare to transition to IT. Seems like most job postings I come across want tons of years of experience & certifications.
@BlackGoddess_ Before I graduated with an IT degree, I immediately applied to all business analyst positions in my area. It doesn't matter when it says 2-5yrs experience cause you should apply anyway. My current job said they wanted 3-5yrs and I still got a chance. I did have an internship and some other projects to be competitive. If you don't have a degree, it isn't necessarily required either in some job applications. For instance, focus on an industry and get an entry job in there like coordinator, assistant, etc. You can internally move to a business analyst position that way cause they care about domain knowledge. A healthcare business analyst position would be great for you! I also want you to listen to me when I say never pay for a certification on your own. Businesses pay for that for you. My boss wants me to be certified in Salesforce, so he had the company pay for all of it. Hiring managers are skeptical over people with certifications who lack experience. Also, the only business analyst certification that matters is the CBAP, but it isn't even listed as a requirement in my area. It's mostly focused in Canada and the UK and requires experience to even take the exam.
@BlackGoddess_ Before I graduated with an IT degree, I applied to all business analyst positions in my area. It doesn't matter when it says 2-5yrs experience cause you should apply anyway. My current job said they wanted 3-5yrs and I still got a chance. I did have an internship and some other projects to be competitive. If you don't have a degree, it isn't required either in some job applications. For instance, focus on an industry and get an entry job in there like coordinator, assistant, etc. You can internally move to a business analyst position that way cause they care about domain knowledge. A healthcare business analyst position would be great for you cause you have that domain knowledge! Also, never pay for a certification on your own. Businesses pay for that for you. My boss wants me to be certified in Salesforce, so he had the company pay for all of it. Hiring managers are skeptical over people with certifications who lack experience anyway. The only business analyst certification that matters is the CBAP, but it isn't even listed as a requirement in my area. It's mostly focused in Canada and the UK and requires experience to even take the exam.
A federal job may pay $60k’ish but the job stability, opportunities to relocated and total compensation package for a young person is very difficult to beat in the civilian workforce. The matching on TSP and retirement pension alone are huge plus
Its easy to beat, just that public sector jobs are much more common than private sector. Before 2020, the government was paying out one third of GDP, imagine what it is now. They print/borrow the money, they can deficit spend eternally, thats why theyre the only ones who still have pensions. the problem is lower pay comparatively, raises do not keep up with inflation, and most of those benefits are worthless to people like me who have read "Who stole my pension?" by Robert Kiyosaki
I graduated with BS Econ degree back in 2021 at the tail end of my first enlistment in the Air Force. Interviewed for jobs as an Economist in the DMV and got decent offers. Decided to stay enlisted and extend my contract since the compensation package and benefits ($3,700+ per 1st and 15th of the month after deductions and 6% TSP) are still better. Plus, I’m working on my Masters for free right now, and my PhD will be free as well and all with zero debt. BS Econ is such a great field, yet you really have to be a good trailblazer in creatively navigating your career path.
Honestly, if they contract now and get a GS-13 or some type of clearance later, they would be in good positions. Contracting sucks, but it can be a real setup for bigger and better things.
he looks like he does everything he thinks he's supposed to do. Like go to college, go to college again for masters. take the unpaid internship. take the low paying job. say "you feel well compensated" and be all like "its fed gov i couldnt negotiate i understand", and then cap it all with saying make sure you look for another job with job notifications. guy is sad. He listened to poor dad from rich dad poor dad
Economist guy looks like he does everything he thinks he's supposed to do. Like go to college, go to college again for masters. take the unpaid internship. take the low paying job. say "you feel well compensated" and be all like "its fed gov i couldnt negotiate i understand", and then cap it all with saying make sure you look for another job with job notifications. guy is sad. He listened to poor dad from rich dad poor dad
Most of these comments are so delusional. They are doing Government Contracting for security reasons. It’s not about the money. Of course they are making more on the side.
Bro.... thats all they make...? I have no degree.. dropped out of college after realizing it was a scam. I work construction type jobs. I do not own my own business and i make more money than them. I was expecting at least 6 figure income for how much they were hyping themselves up.
@@darthjarjar3152 also to be fair, 1. they are also getting at least $30k in benefits per year that you likely are not getting in your construction job. 2. The livable wage for the DMV that both of them live in is $46k, per MIT's living wage calculator, so no idea where you are getting living wage assertion. 3. Maybe the disconnect between what you think white collar careers make and what the majority actually make is a significant factor in class bias. 4. Of course they are hyped. They are recent grads that are making great entry level money without risk of losing a finger or herniated disc.
@TravisBrown42 I think you'd be surprised with the benefits I and most construction workers I know receive. The average rent where I live is 1900-2200 alone notincluding utilities to cheaper rent you have to move an hour or further away from the suburbs. It's not liveable if you have to rely on other people to survive. Meanwhile they're likely in debt from school and so it doesn't seem like nearly enough to get by. I also don't think 99% of white collar people actually deserve more money honeslty and deserve even less than the blue collar workers whose labor is necessary for them to even attempt to have a white collar job. So 68k isn't that much. Especially when buccees regular gas station employees earn +20 an hour. Mailman make +30 an hour. Oil field workers make 70k-90k Cable technicians where I live make 48k starting after a 3 years most of them are making over +40 an hour . Almost all of them provide full coverage insurance some form of retirement. And all kinds of other benefits if you have chidlren or are married. Tons of time off. Annual raises, bonuses. I know a ranch hands who make more than that. I know people who dig trenches who make more than that. They're pay doesn't seem high enough to be happy about considering. That's my point.
What...You mean on day 1 after getting my Master's I won't automatically get $200k a year? I need to get experience by working for cheap or intern somewhere? Wow, this world is so weird. World's not perfect and neother are you, learn to navigate and moat things can make sense. Have positive outlook hwlps tremendously. I loathe people who stay complaining saying, "Help it make sense."
These people look like they are happy with what they have. They are content. They brought me inner peace
Unpaid internships are the biggest scam running.
How are they a scam?
I did it for 3 years during undergrad. Got experience on resume but sucks no money
@@shinycitylights I did one unpaid and one paid during under grad and I always felt so grateful bc it was free technical training and experience
@@thomasnook118 my buddy did an internship for $40/hr, starting pay was much higher
How if its a choice?
The responses are so real! I love it.
I'm a business analyst with no professional experience but was a new grad. I had 63k starting out then I got a raise to 65k. This year I should be getting another raise to 70k.
What do you do day to day?
@@mindfulmelaninI do want to make it clear that there are business analysts in all fields. My specific title is business systems analyst, so I'm a bit more technical. Without so much detail (unless you want that), I'm the person who tells developers what to do based off of approval from a project manager or product manager.
How did you land your job if you don’t mind me asking? I am in the process of leaving healthcare to transition to IT. Seems like most job postings I come across want tons of years of experience & certifications.
@BlackGoddess_ Before I graduated with an IT degree, I immediately applied to all business analyst positions in my area. It doesn't matter when it says 2-5yrs experience cause you should apply anyway. My current job said they wanted 3-5yrs and I still got a chance. I did have an internship and some other projects to be competitive.
If you don't have a degree, it isn't necessarily required either in some job applications. For instance, focus on an industry and get an entry job in there like coordinator, assistant, etc. You can internally move to a business analyst position that way cause they care about domain knowledge. A healthcare business analyst position would be great for you!
I also want you to listen to me when I say never pay for a certification on your own. Businesses pay for that for you. My boss wants me to be certified in Salesforce, so he had the company pay for all of it. Hiring managers are skeptical over people with certifications who lack experience. Also, the only business analyst certification that matters is the CBAP, but it isn't even listed as a requirement in my area. It's mostly focused in Canada and the UK and requires experience to even take the exam.
@BlackGoddess_ Before I graduated with an IT degree, I applied to all business analyst positions in my area. It doesn't matter when it says 2-5yrs experience cause you should apply anyway. My current job said they wanted 3-5yrs and I still got a chance. I did have an internship and some other projects to be competitive.
If you don't have a degree, it isn't required either in some job applications. For instance, focus on an industry and get an entry job in there like coordinator, assistant, etc. You can internally move to a business analyst position that way cause they care about domain knowledge. A healthcare business analyst position would be great for you cause you have that domain knowledge!
Also, never pay for a certification on your own. Businesses pay for that for you. My boss wants me to be certified in Salesforce, so he had the company pay for all of it. Hiring managers are skeptical over people with certifications who lack experience anyway. The only business analyst certification that matters is the CBAP, but it isn't even listed as a requirement in my area. It's mostly focused in Canada and the UK and requires experience to even take the exam.
A federal job may pay $60k’ish but the job stability, opportunities to relocated and total compensation package for a young person is very difficult to beat in the civilian workforce. The matching on TSP and retirement pension alone are huge plus
Its easy to beat, just that public sector jobs are much more common than private sector. Before 2020, the government was paying out one third of GDP, imagine what it is now. They print/borrow the money, they can deficit spend eternally, thats why theyre the only ones who still have pensions. the problem is lower pay comparatively, raises do not keep up with inflation, and most of those benefits are worthless to people like me who have read "Who stole my pension?" by Robert Kiyosaki
shout out your business FOOL!!!!!!!!!###
I graduated with BS Econ degree back in 2021 at the tail end of my first enlistment in the Air Force. Interviewed for jobs as an Economist in the DMV and got decent offers. Decided to stay enlisted and extend my contract since the compensation package and benefits ($3,700+ per 1st and 15th of the month after deductions and 6% TSP) are still better. Plus, I’m working on my Masters for free right now, and my PhD will be free as well and all with zero debt.
BS Econ is such a great field, yet you really have to be a good trailblazer in creatively navigating your career path.
white collar work depends on experience. Sr BAs or economist make well over 100k
Sr Business Systems Analyst here in Tampa Florida I’m at $125k private sector > 15 yrs experience
Private sector ding ding ding. this is most of what the comments dont realize is key
@@xsw882could you be more detailed?
Honestly, if they contract now and get a GS-13 or some type of clearance later, they would be in good positions. Contracting sucks, but it can be a real setup for bigger and better things.
Like that they are honest and have likeable characters. Seeing more buffoons nowadays claiming 6 figure careers which clearly doesn't sound like it.
Good luck guys
basic less than $70k is alot less than market, isn't it ?
Somebody needs to check the economists basement
he looks like he does everything he thinks he's supposed to do. Like go to college, go to college again for masters. take the unpaid internship. take the low paying job. say "you feel well compensated" and be all like "its fed gov i couldnt negotiate i understand", and then cap it all with saying make sure you look for another job with job notifications.
guy is sad. He listened to poor dad from rich dad poor dad
Thought that was Lebron 🤣
Economist guy looks like he does everything he thinks he's supposed to do. Like go to college, go to college again for masters. take the unpaid internship. take the low paying job. say "you feel well compensated" and be all like "its fed gov i couldnt negotiate i understand", and then cap it all with saying make sure you look for another job with job notifications.
guy is sad. He listened to poor dad from rich dad poor dad
You don't really know him to judge that much.
@@emilyau8023yea i know i just wanted to test my ability to read people
I think he looks so cheerful and he's proud of his accomplishments! I'm happy for him
Also his salary is not low. It's more medium
No you don’t just wait for job notifications, you hunt for it.
Most of these comments are so delusional. They are doing Government Contracting for security reasons. It’s not about the money. Of course they are making more on the side.
Government contractors are full time employees, it’s not something they do ‘on the side’.
- Signed, two former government contractors. 😶
no college and i make same ballpark as these guys working like 6-8months out of the year
Blue collar?
@@rachla yep, literally. yeah it requires effort but anything worth doing does
Good for you, but there are many people who can't do blue collar or simply don't want to.
Bro.... thats all they make...? I have no degree.. dropped out of college after realizing it was a scam. I work construction type jobs. I do not own my own business and i make more money than them. I was expecting at least 6 figure income for how much they were hyping themselves up.
You expect an entry level position to make 6 figures? They both literally just started.
Bro 68k for a start is pretty decent.
They're starting with debt and at a barely liveable wage for most urban places. Especially with the cost of living spike
@@darthjarjar3152 also to be fair, 1. they are also getting at least $30k in benefits per year that you likely are not getting in your construction job. 2. The livable wage for the DMV that both of them live in is $46k, per MIT's living wage calculator, so no idea where you are getting living wage assertion. 3. Maybe the disconnect between what you think white collar careers make and what the majority actually make is a significant factor in class bias. 4. Of course they are hyped. They are recent grads that are making great entry level money without risk of losing a finger or herniated disc.
@TravisBrown42 I think you'd be surprised with the benefits I and most construction workers I know receive. The average rent where I live is 1900-2200 alone notincluding utilities to cheaper rent you have to move an hour or further away from the suburbs. It's not liveable if you have to rely on other people to survive. Meanwhile they're likely in debt from school and so it doesn't seem like nearly enough to get by. I also don't think 99% of white collar people actually deserve more money honeslty and deserve even less than the blue collar workers whose labor is necessary for them to even attempt to have a white collar job. So 68k isn't that much. Especially when buccees regular gas station employees earn +20 an hour. Mailman make +30 an hour.
Oil field workers make 70k-90k
Cable technicians where I live make 48k starting after a 3 years most of them are making over +40 an hour .
Almost all of them provide full coverage insurance some form of retirement. And all kinds of other benefits if you have chidlren or are married. Tons of time off. Annual raises, bonuses. I know a ranch hands who make more than that. I know people who dig trenches who make more than that. They're pay doesn't seem high enough to be happy about considering. That's my point.
What...You mean on day 1 after getting my Master's I won't automatically get $200k a year? I need to get experience by working for cheap or intern somewhere? Wow, this world is so weird. World's not perfect and neother are you, learn to navigate and moat things can make sense. Have positive outlook hwlps tremendously. I loathe people who stay complaining saying, "Help it make sense."