Thank you you brother Joel for this clear and sensible handling of a subject that I could never get my head around when listening to pre-trib teachers. At last it fits together for me. May the Lord's blessing be on your ministry as you lead the deceived believers into the light of biblical truth🙌
simply. thank you Joel. I read my bible years ago and this is what I believed. then I heard about 'pre-trib rapture', so I read it again and I couldn't see it anywhere. so I began reading it again and got as far as Exodus and realised, it's not in the bible. I found FAI Studios and this channel by researching as much as I could, to find people who explained what/where/who pre-trib came from and to try and find the truth of the matter. so again, thank you and your team for all you do. God bless.
Joel. I have to say how this is presented instills the beauty of the love in a True marriage covenant. Most people get lost in doctrine arguments and completely forget their first love. Well done
THE only one who thought me this was drawing close to Jesus by reading The Phophets I always thought that the New City of Jerusalem is the wedding gift of an eternal home for his bride Israel and we who believe and our Redeemed by the blood of Jesus Our grafted into the olive tree. JESUS said he would not return untill he heard Barucha ha ba ba shem Adonai
Joel, Im so thankful for what you pointed out at 16:20. I’ve heard exactly word for word when you said Israel is the bride of God and the church is the bride of Jesus. Exactly!! I am looking forward to when we get to be together and I can thank you for your ministry. God bless you Joel and may the peace of our Lord Jesus Christ always be upon you and your loved ones.
If I'm not mistaken, Joel only says that when quoting others in that error. He's saying in this episode that there is only one bride, and we are grafted in to her. Much scriptural support for this throughout the Bible
I’m just watching this teaching now…. I’ve gone back and forth between pre/mid/post Trib for the past 40 years, and after every encounter ( for the most part), the argument has been so well presented that at that moment, I am firmly in that camp ( UNTIL I watch/ read/listen to another fantastically presented opposing view)…..Bottom line is I’m Praying daily that the Lord comes for us now….. but I’m preparing for a much longer and much more difficult time here. None of us have an exclusive handle on Gods mighty plan. Maranatha. 🙏♥️🙏
The items that provide more for clarity is the fact that every reference to the return of Christ indicate that it is one event and it is visible to all the tribes, nations, & tongues. With that defined the other defining item is that it is just prior to Gods wrath being poured out on the rebellious people. Since we do not know when the wrath begins (except some time after the abomination of desolation takes place @ mid tribulation) and we do not know the time duration of Gods wrath, it could be anytime after the “mid tribulation” events & prior to Gods wrath.
I loved your presentation and explanations. I have a little different take. I could never present it as well as you do. Matt 24:3 the apostles asked three questions. History seems to repeat itself as all three different events have similar signs. The three events are 1) destruction of the Temple they are looking at. 2) The return of Jesus to start his 1000 year millennial reign. And 3) the end of the world or age judgement after the 1000 years is over.
This teaching has reminded ne so much of the Jesus who I fell in love with when zi read the phophets and realised that God is a person who loves and we have enter into a love relationship with him as our Bridegroom who was willing to die for his Bride to Eternally save her and make her his pure distress virgin Bride even after she was Rebellious and turned to other gods .He made away to bring us all back to him Israel and the other nations wh are born again of his Holy Spirit and made one in Jesus Christ of Nazareth.
Before I ever heard of any trib pre mid or post this is what I beleived .zThankypu for reminding me of what zi bekeived when Jesus brought me to Israel in year 2000
I am one who believes that Jesus is coming back in the Clouds to snatch up out of harms way HIS Believers ✓all nations/propls that believe Jesus is the One GOD sent to be The Redeemer = harposo (Gr. ?) ... The dispensations are not ment to be difficult, that was how GOD chose to Tell us how much HE loves us, ... You are blessed brother &sisters= you believe Jesus is the Messiah. GOD be Praised Glory GloryGlory Allelu'jah HeavenlyFather 🙏🛐 Joy-Full Prayers Continuing for you in Jesus Mighty Faithful Healing Name 🛐🙏
Well then Joel I hope you find time to explain Rev. 19:1-16. It seems to say a great multitude in Heaven rejoice because the wedding of the Lamb has come. And blessed are those who are invited to the wedding supper. Then Heaven opened and the LORD comes riding a white horse with all His heavenly host with Him. Does this mean those in heaven are simply told to come with the Lord to celebrate on earth the marriage supper of the LAMB. Returning with Him to be joined with their resurrection bodies and thus glorified like Christ? Then how do you explain that in V:8 they were given white, bright, clean linen to wear ["her, the bride, to wear"] ?
@@JoelRichardson yes i 'see' it now. It doesnt really say the feast is in heaven it simply says they are preparing for it and getting ready to return with Christ to a 'feast' or celebration supper on earth. Like the 'last supper' was on earth He returns to have a marriage supper and celebrating his return to the place of His 'last supper' with His Bride.
@@JoelRichardson That refers to the multitude in Heaven. They get their reward, the righteousness of the Saints. Then the Wedding is after (end) of the tribulation, that is right. Verse 19:7 says, has come, an Aorist Active, present tense. The Wedding is in the Father's house in the New Jerusalem on the mount of Zion, the heavenly Jerusalem, the bride and wife of the Lord. There will be a wedding feast on earth with the guests, but that is not the marriage supper, where only His Saints are called, the multitude of Rev 19:1.
Joel, how can we deal with this Chaos? I have heard you say the pre-trib camp should be held as brothers and sisters of the faith. However, I find their rhetoric weighs heavy on the Spirit within me. I pray for them, as I do for all, that they would come to the truth. I also pray that our Lord keep me in His truth. But, as I frequently hear their blatant disregard of clear teachings from the scriptures, I feel enraged more and more with them. Is isolation the only safe answer in these last days? How are we to deal with it? All the churches in my area are so confused that they are dangerous! Any clarity will be greatly appreciated.
There are at least 4 beliefs in end-time timelines. 1. Pre-Trib second coming. 2. Mid-Trib second coming. 3. Pre-wrath second coming (sometime during the Great Tribulation) 4. Post-Tribulation, after the Tribulation as stated in Matthew 24 by Jesus. However endtime beliefs have nothing to do with salvation other then it is possible to be deceived, however any of these groups could be deceived and some already are not just in their endtime beliefs. Any born again Spirit believer it is not a reason not to fellowship with. I agree it is hard to listen too but the Word will eventually speak for itself and as the Body of Christ we have to be there to guide, teach and preach to saint and sinner alike. The Great Commission don’t end until the END.
I get a little nervous when you read a verse "he sprinkled blood on the people" and then say you believe that it was on the pillars. That's not what it says. We cant just choose to believe something other than what it says. You come across as believing what you want and not what it says? I don't think you ignore scripture at all. You need to qualify your belief when you disagree with the word. One may wonder what else you may believe that is not written. I personally agree with 95% of your teaching but who am I. Like I said it makes me nervous changing one dot or one tittle.
Roger, do you take the following passage literally or is it an expression? “You will also suck the milk of nations and suck the breast of kings; Then you will know that I, the LORD, am your Savior" ( Is 60:16)
@@JoelRichardson There's nothing wrong with what Joel said. When we consider how many of the children of Israel came out of Egypt, possibly over 3 million, it is more probable to conclude that Moses may have sprinkled their representatives, such as the 70 elders, or the father of each family, unless he had servants to perform the task. I don't know how any man 80 years old could sprinkle over 3 million people without wearing out his rotator cuffs, or damaging tendons in his arms, not to mention it would take a very long time to accomplish that feat. Also, consider the passage of Moses grinding to "powder" the golden calf and forcing the children of Israel to drink it mixed with water. There wouldn't have been nearly enough gold dust for that entire company to drink of it, for the calf was likely very small, because they made it in haste at the wanton behest of the rebels.
@@JoelRichardsonno other explanation it would be impossible to sprinkle thousands if not millions of people. Some things are pretty much common sense that GOD didn’t think HE needed to explain it?
Thank you for the clarification on Ezekiel. I read it about the baby on the side of the road, and couldn't understand it. This is the first time I heard of the explanation. My heart weap for our Father every time I read Ezekiel.
Are you saying that the nation of Israel, whether they believe on Jesus or not, will be at the marriage supper of the Lamb? Or are you speaking about Messianic Jews and Beliving gentiles being the one new man?
Brother Joel, thank you so much for teaching. I actually believe that when Yeshua said he came for the lost sheep of Israel... the lost sheep of Israel are actually the true members of the church and we just don't know our heritage. Even 1% of a drop of Hebrew blood makes you a great x 1000s grandchild of Abraham.
And it bo longer matters (the genetics), as we are grafted in and adopted into the nation, commonwealth, the covenants by the blood of our Kinsman Redeemer. See the end of Ezekiel when the lands are repossessed by the tribes of Israel, and gerim (strangers)/ goyim attach themselves to the covenants and are then considered as native-born, inheriting the land with them, settling where we desire among the tribes. Beautiful. And the rules of God's Kingdom is his Torah. It doesn't hurt to practice now.
Mid act Dispensationalists don’t teach there are two weddings. They believe Israel is the Bride of Christ and the Gentiles are the Body of Christ. How do you explain Ephesians 3 (all of it)?
By Faith We are the Seed of Abraham and the Promise of God. Who is Israel ? Daniel 9 Say's your people and your City named after the Lord, Israel. Jesus Christ is Israel and the Tribe's of Israel are the Natural Branches and Christian's are the Wild Branches both Grafted into Israel Jesus Christ, All One in Jesus Christ Israel, as scripture says there is neither Jew nor Gentile all One in Israel Jesus Christ.
No difference between Israel and the Christian's, they are both Israel. When scripture speaking of Israel, it's speaking to both Jew's and Christian's Israel.
@@scott596 Absolutely they are, or the apostles wouldn't be. How dumb is that? Jesus said that He had "other" sheep which He must bring into "this" fold. The "other" sheep are Gentiles. One Fold, One Shepherd. Rev. 22:3, 4 sheds light on the BODY of Christ in New Jerusalem, "And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and HIS [singular, meaning the Father and the Lamb are One] SERVANTS [not specific divisions, such as the Gentile Church, the Jews, the pre-law saints, and the Tribulation saints] shall serve Him. And THEY [each and every one whose names were written in the Lamb's book of life (His wedding list) before the foundation of the world] shall see His face; and His name shall be in THEIR [all the elect which comprise the Bride] foreheads."
@@scott596 wrong, Legalism which Yeshua nailed to the tree is a curse Rav Sha ul the Torah observant Pharisee of Pharisee's tells you plainly that Faith has not made the Torah of no effect He positively established the Torah. YHVH Torah is the rain that causes the seed to grow fruit Rav Sha ul plainly teaches you Rom 7:12 Besides the other facts like psalm 119:142 And it's a fact that He YHVH writes His Torah on the Heart of man those who comes into covenant with YHVH by Grace thru Faith are His First Born - Israel And if you don't know it The Torah is the very Heart of GOD. And He proves that to all Humanity So you can roll the Dice with hath god said or rather Believe Do & Be Blessed rather than cursed for those who are without the works of the Torah not for salvation but because they Hear & Obey their Fathers Words.
@@scott596 you should search for the removed language from the sefer of the Gimel lamed written back in the 1st century to those who tried to keep you under there legalistic observation of Takenot & Mahazim's Church Dogma used 3 times in Scripture ( dogma)
@@rocdajacable Galatians 2 and 3, the purpose of the Law, which has never saved anyone, only through Faith We are Saved as since the very Begining, as even Abraham was Saved through Faith, as We are the Seed of Abraham and the Promise of God through Faith. And like Abraham Our work's are Accounted for Righteousness. God Bless you
How about all the youth who will be under the age of accountability (which nobody ever thinks about. Pre-tribs pridefully use this argument to their advantage, as if there is no other way to have people on earth during the millennium apart from the living tribulation saints. We're such "surface" thinkers, aren't we?), and all the children in the wombs of their mothers (yes, the lost mothers who have received the mark of Antichrist, who will be cast away by the angels with all the others upon the parousia of Christ. I seriously doubt Jesus will send pregnant women to hell with their innocent pre-born in their wombs). God bless you.
So why does exodus also call Isreal God's firstborn son (Exodus4:22)? When first born is used in the Bible it denotes a position of prominence and someone that is special and one who will receive the inheritance of the father.
there is only one vine. gentiles are grafted into that vine. that vine is Israel. we are grafted into Israel. Keep studying. Praise The Lord. All Glory to God. God bless you and keep you.
Who is Israel ? Daniel 9 Say's your people and your City named after the Lord, Israel. So Jesus Christ is Israel, and the Tribe's of Israel are the Natural Branches and Christian's are the Wild Branches both Grafted into Israel, Jesus Christ. As scripture says there is neither Jew nor Gentile, all One in Jesus Christ Israel. By Faith We are the Seed of Abraham and the Promise of God, so what happens to Israel also Happens to Christian's.
Im willing to listen to both sides, and then study Gods word myself. Why do you have to say Schizophrenic? I didnt need to go through all of that to understand it. Its not that difficult.
I did not call pre-tribbers schizophrenic. I was simply making fun of confusing Dispensational time-line charts and saying they are crazy complicated and confusing. Nothing more.
Jew's and Christian's believe in the Holy Messiah Yeshua Hamashiac, Jesus Christ. But most Jew's don't believe he came Yet, they are still waiting for Him ! And Eventually they will believe he came and will Return ! When does Jesus Christ Return ? When the Tribe's of Israel call upon the name of the Holy Messiah Yeshua Hamashiac Jesus Christ and then they shall look upon Him whom they Pierced and be Saved, through Faith in Jesus Christ and the Word of God.
Who is Israel ? Daniel 9 says your people and your City named after the Lord, Israel. Jesus Christ is Israel, and the Tribe's of Israel are the Natural Branches and Christian's are the Wild Branches both Grafted into Israel Jesus Christ. There is neither Jew nor Gentile all One in Israel Jesus Christ. Roman's 11 when all Israel will be Saved.
You know, I don't have a problem in my thinking of God as my father and creator. Jesus is Lord, and King of Creation. Got it. I do have trouble however, and feel quite uncomfortable when I hear references to being part of the "Bride of Christ". Is that quite necessary for people to talk like that? Why can't people speak of their creator without the homoerotic imagery? Why am I the only person who says this? Is there something wrong with me?
Humans who hear and agree and do the ketubah (Torah), which includes Yeshua being our exclusive, one and only groom and kinsman redeemer,, are the bride. God is the Father and the Creator of both the heavenly and earthly order of "family." Adoption in the Bible is full and complete. Learn the rules of the household, and how beautiful, natural, and full of blessing they are, because we have a good Father. Do what pleases HIM, not ourselves or the world. We will end up pleased for real if we do. Work out your salvation in...😮...ah, awe...What is sin? He gave us the manual, the ketubah. Psalm 119.
@32:13 you make an error in your interpretation and/or in your reading of scripture. You say Ezekiel 16 is about Israel. But the scripture specifically says it is Jerusalem. Now we can argue about the interpretation of what Jerusalem stands for in this passage but for you to just say it is about Israel is a little misleading for those that are listening and do not know that in that passage it is specifically about the city of Jerusalem. I’m not saying you are being misleading on purpose. But by putting your interpretation on the passage without acknowledging the that it doesn’t actually say Jerusalem is not fair to your listeners. And actually hearing you take this view on this particular chapter explains to me how you misunderstand, in my opinion, who the harlot is. And why you think if someone say’s Jerusalem is the harlot you automatically think they are saying Israel is the harlot so they are just antisemitic. Jerusalem does not necessarily symbolize “all of Israel” every time you see it used.
@@JoelRichardson From my understanding in the Old Testament there is the northern kingdom, the 10 tribes specifically called Israel and the southern kingdom called Judah where Jerusalem is located. There are numerous passages that speak to these two kingdoms separately. It would seem there would be times when we read about Jerusalem that it is not referring to Israel but to the southern kingdom. There are also passages where God addresses the “men of Judah and the residents of Jerusalem”.
I have to disagree with you Joel, dispensationalism isn't wild or crazy as you depict. And what you mentioned isn't accurate on the pre-tribulational rapture view. Respectfully, I would say you teach a leaky form of dispensationalism. Also, I don't appreciate nor do I think it is correct to make dispensationalist out to be heretics, false teachers, etc. Great pastors, scholars, and even the majority of the early church fathers (prior to the persecution and 300 AD) are/were pre-tribulational/pre-millennial. Christians who teach on eschatology should be non-bias in their approach and cover all popular views. However, it is normal for every teacher to have their own biased and a personal view (as they should). But their bias should be withheld from their teaching, otherwise you run the risk of creating divisions in the body of Christ like you normally do. You make pre-tribulationalist out to not understand the scriptures or twist it. Let's not divide over this issue.
@@JoelRichardson - you didn't say heretic specifically but you did call those that believe in pretribulationism "crazy, schizophrenic, and implied that they don't properly teach the word." See the 7:00-8:00 mark. I appreciate your boldness and your teachings - even when I disagree with you. However, if you are honest, pretribulationism has been well defended by many great scholars and leaders - one of my favorites being Chuck Missler. Are you saying Chuck Missler was schizophrenic? Do you think he wasn't a good bible teacher? It is okay to disagree on some doctrines and people's personal views on hermeneutics have a big role on your views on eschatology. I appreciate you but I do believe you are creating unnecessary divisions in the body over your view on the rapture.
@@thephoenix0494 I did not call dispensationalists schizophrenic. Listen again. I was making fun of dispensational wall charts that are so chaotic and confusing. I jokingly compared them to the "crazy wall" in the movie Beautiful Mind wherein the main character is schizophrenic. That's it. Even Dispensationalists make fun of the wall charts.
Israel is the Bride but the groom is those that are obedient to God's Biblical Torah ( teaching and instruction ) Exodus coming out of the Nations,.. Blessings brother's and sister's Prepare...
the groom is those that are obedient to the 'Torah'? Jesus is the groom. I'm sure everyone is in agreement with Jesus being the groom, but I might be wrong
Humans who hear and agree and do the ketubah (Torah), which includes Yeshua being our exclusive, one and only groom and kinsman redeemer,, are the bride. God is the Father and the Creator of both the heavenly and earthly order of "family." Adoption in the Bible is full and complete. Learn the rules of the household, and how beautiful, natural, and full of blessing they are, because we have a good Father. Do what pleases HIM, not ourselves or the world. We will end up pleased for real if we do. Work out your salvation in...😮... ah, what IS sin? He gave us the manual, the ketubah. Psalm 119.
Great teaching Joel. Nice to have someone clearly address distorted biblical teaching about the pre trib marriage supper etc.
Great Job Joel.
Thank you Joel. Subscriber here from South Australia 🇦🇺. Your teaching is always simple and clear to follow. Blessings to all.
This teaching just so good! Third time listening just so I can have in me to share! Bless you Joel, your family and ministry!
MARANATHA!
Thank you you brother Joel for this clear and sensible handling of a subject that I could never get my head around when listening to pre-trib teachers. At last it fits together for me. May the Lord's blessing be on your ministry as you lead the deceived believers into the light of biblical truth🙌
Profound teaching.. Excellent exposition
Thank you Joel for the lovely teaching
simply. thank you Joel. I read my bible years ago and this is what I believed. then I heard about 'pre-trib rapture', so I read it again and I couldn't see it anywhere. so I began reading it again and got as far as Exodus and realised, it's not in the bible. I found FAI Studios and this channel by researching as much as I could, to find people who explained what/where/who pre-trib came from and to try and find the truth of the matter. so again, thank you and your team for all you do. God bless.
That’s what happened to me .
Joel. I have to say how this is presented instills the beauty of the love in a True marriage covenant. Most people get lost in doctrine arguments and completely forget their first love. Well done
Known for awhile not to look to those teachers for truth
THE only one who thought me this was drawing close to Jesus by reading The Phophets I always thought that the New City of Jerusalem is the wedding gift of an eternal home for his bride Israel and we who believe and our Redeemed by the blood of Jesus Our grafted into the olive tree. JESUS said he would not return untill he heard Barucha ha ba ba shem Adonai
Let’s remember that we stopped been gentiles when we enter to the covenant with God through Yeshua… and his commandments
Not true. Paul refers to believers as still presently gentiles.
@@JoelRichardson Ephesians 2:11-21
Thank you Joel. So important that we know the truth. Peel it like an onion.
John 10:16 … and there will be ONE flock and one Shepherd
By Faith We are the Seed of Abraham and the Promise of God.
Joel, Im so thankful for what you pointed out at 16:20. I’ve heard exactly word for word when you said Israel is the bride of God and the church is the bride of Jesus. Exactly!! I am looking forward to when we get to be together and I can thank you for your ministry. God bless you Joel and may the peace of our Lord Jesus Christ always be upon you and your loved ones.
If I'm not mistaken, Joel only says that when quoting others in that error. He's saying in this episode that there is only one bride, and we are grafted in to her. Much scriptural support for this throughout the Bible
Thomas that's what the dispensationalists teach we are One! Not 2
Oi vey!
@@Sandra-wh2tw Dispensationalism teaches that there are two people of God. Three if we include the tribulation saints.
@@JoelRichardson I stand corrected..thank you for your ministry
I’m just watching this teaching now…. I’ve gone back and forth between pre/mid/post
Trib for the past 40 years, and after every encounter ( for the most part), the argument has been so well presented that at that moment, I am firmly in that camp ( UNTIL I watch/ read/listen to another fantastically presented opposing view)…..Bottom line is I’m Praying daily that the Lord comes for us now….. but I’m preparing for a much longer and much more difficult time here. None of us have an exclusive handle on Gods mighty plan. Maranatha. 🙏♥️🙏
The items that provide more for clarity is the fact that every reference to the return of Christ indicate that it is one event and it is visible to all the tribes, nations, & tongues. With that defined the other defining item is that it is just prior to Gods wrath being poured out on the rebellious people.
Since we do not know when the wrath begins (except some time after the abomination of desolation takes place @ mid tribulation) and we do not know the time duration of Gods wrath, it could be anytime after the “mid tribulation” events & prior to Gods wrath.
Most helpful, and oh so hopeful!
Thank you for the clarification on this subject. Great teaching.
I’m my beloved and my beloved is mine, eternally
Thank you 🙏
So Beautifully put
Thank you Joel. I agree with you on all points.
There is only ONE TRUE GOD, who IS TRUTH!
Praise the Lord! All glory be to God now and forever!
I loved your presentation and explanations. I have a little different take. I could never present it as well as you do. Matt 24:3 the apostles asked three questions. History seems to repeat itself as all three different events have similar signs. The three events are 1) destruction of the Temple they are looking at. 2) The return of Jesus to start his 1000 year millennial reign. And 3) the end of the world or age judgement after the 1000 years is over.
This teaching has reminded ne so much of the Jesus who I fell in love with when zi read the phophets and realised that God is a person who loves and we have enter into a love relationship with him as our Bridegroom who was willing to die for his Bride to Eternally save her and make her his pure distress virgin Bride even after she was Rebellious and turned to other gods .He made away to bring us all back to him Israel and the other nations wh are born again of his Holy Spirit and made one in Jesus Christ of Nazareth.
Before I ever heard of any trib pre mid or post this is what I beleived .zThankypu for reminding me of what zi bekeived when Jesus brought me to Israel in year 2000
Beautiful.
Lovet it!! Looking forward to this series.
Jeremiah 31:31 & Hebrews 8:8
By Faith We are the Seed of Abraham and the Promise of God
I always thought that how could the church enjoy a wedding in the sky if The people on earth especially Israel were suffering so much
Who is the bride?
Who are the guests?
Thank you
Yeshua Adonai loves in a way that is so faithful .He died to Redeem his Bride to save her .He is the Holy one of Israel He is the faithful Bridegroom
I am one who believes that Jesus is coming back in the Clouds to snatch up out of harms way HIS Believers ✓all nations/propls that believe Jesus is the One GOD sent to be The Redeemer = harposo (Gr. ?) ... The dispensations are not ment to be difficult, that was how GOD chose to Tell us how much HE loves us, ... You are blessed brother &sisters= you believe Jesus is the Messiah. GOD be Praised Glory GloryGlory Allelu'jah HeavenlyFather 🙏🛐 Joy-Full Prayers Continuing for you in Jesus Mighty Faithful Healing Name 🛐🙏
THE Bride calls Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord
Paz de CRISTO a todos aqui 🙏
Joel Richarson você poderia colocar legendas em português em seus vídeos por favor, obrigado 🙌🏻💚🇧🇷🤍
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@@mariaantoniaantonia2215 seria sim 🙌🏻
Well then Joel I hope you find time to explain Rev. 19:1-16. It seems to say a great multitude in Heaven rejoice because the wedding of the Lamb has come. And blessed are those who are invited to the wedding supper. Then Heaven opened and the LORD comes riding a white horse with all His heavenly host with Him.
Does this mean those in heaven are simply told to come with the Lord to celebrate on earth the marriage supper of the LAMB.
Returning with Him to be joined with their resurrection bodies and thus glorified like Christ?
Then how do you explain that in V:8 they were given white, bright, clean linen to wear ["her, the bride, to wear"] ?
The wedding is announced at the end of tribulation. They are given wedding clothes and leave heaven.
@@JoelRichardson yes i 'see' it now. It doesnt really say the feast is in heaven it simply says they are preparing for it and getting ready to return with Christ to a 'feast' or celebration supper on earth. Like the 'last supper' was on earth He returns to have a marriage supper and celebrating his return to the place of His 'last supper' with His Bride.
@@JoelRichardson That refers to the multitude in Heaven. They get their reward, the righteousness of the Saints. Then the Wedding is after (end) of the tribulation, that is right. Verse 19:7 says, has come, an Aorist Active, present tense. The Wedding is in the Father's house in the New Jerusalem on the mount of Zion, the heavenly Jerusalem, the bride and wife of the Lord. There will be a wedding feast on earth with the guests, but that is not the marriage supper, where only His Saints are called, the multitude of Rev 19:1.
Is it me or are the graphics upgraded? They are very sharp.
Pray for Israel. It’s getting real! 🙏
Dispensationalism can’t be correct. Jesus said He was here to fulfill the Law and God doesn’t change.
Peach it, Joel!
Or preach 😂 it lol
Joel, how can we deal with this Chaos? I have heard you say the pre-trib camp should be held as brothers and sisters of the faith. However, I find their rhetoric weighs heavy on the Spirit within me. I pray for them, as I do for all, that they would come to the truth. I also pray that our Lord keep me in His truth. But, as I frequently hear their blatant disregard of clear teachings from the scriptures, I feel enraged more and more with them. Is isolation the only safe answer in these last days? How are we to deal with it? All the churches in my area are so confused that they are dangerous! Any clarity will be greatly appreciated.
We don't have to deal with it, Dad will work that out in the meantime we have to love without exception
There are at least 4 beliefs in end-time timelines. 1. Pre-Trib second coming. 2. Mid-Trib second coming. 3. Pre-wrath second coming (sometime during the Great Tribulation) 4. Post-Tribulation, after the Tribulation as stated in Matthew 24 by Jesus.
However endtime beliefs have nothing to do with salvation other then it is possible to be deceived, however any of these groups could be deceived and some already are not just in their endtime beliefs. Any born again Spirit believer it is not a reason not to fellowship with. I agree it is hard to listen too but the Word will eventually speak for itself and as the Body of Christ we have to be there to guide, teach and preach to saint and sinner alike. The Great Commission don’t end until the END.
I get a little nervous when you read a verse "he sprinkled blood on the people" and then say you believe that it was on the pillars. That's not what it says. We cant just choose to believe something other than what it says. You come across as believing what you want and not what it says? I don't think you ignore scripture at all. You need to qualify your belief when you disagree with the word. One may wonder what else you may believe that is not written. I personally agree with 95% of your teaching but who am I. Like I said it makes me nervous changing one dot or one tittle.
I wonder what else you might believe that is not written. Like that you think nitpicking like the Pharisees is good. Makes me nervous.
@@InfoArtistJKatTheGoodInfoCafe there is a curse associated with changing the Holy writ. Dont take it lightly
Roger, do you take the following passage literally or is it an expression?
“You will also suck the milk of nations and suck the breast of kings; Then you will know that I, the LORD, am your Savior" ( Is 60:16)
@@JoelRichardson There's nothing wrong with what Joel said. When we consider how many of the children of Israel came out of Egypt, possibly over 3 million, it is more probable to conclude that Moses may have sprinkled their representatives, such as the 70 elders, or the father of each family, unless he had servants to perform the task. I don't know how any man 80 years old could sprinkle over 3 million people without wearing out his rotator cuffs, or damaging tendons in his arms, not to mention it would take a very long time to accomplish that feat. Also, consider the passage of Moses grinding to "powder" the golden calf and forcing the children of Israel to drink it mixed with water. There wouldn't have been nearly enough gold dust for that entire company to drink of it, for the calf was likely very small, because they made it in haste at the wanton behest of the rebels.
@@JoelRichardsonno other explanation it would be impossible to sprinkle thousands if not millions of people. Some things are pretty much common sense that GOD didn’t think HE needed to explain it?
Thank you for the clarification on Ezekiel. I read it about the baby on the side of the road, and couldn't understand it. This is the first time I heard of the explanation. My heart weap for our Father every time I read Ezekiel.
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So to sum up your teaching, "Life is a turd sandwich and we all have to step up and take a bite until we are mercifully released by eventual death."
Do you think that you are too special to "take up your cross"?
Are you saying that the nation of Israel, whether they believe on Jesus or not, will be at the marriage supper of the Lamb? Or are you speaking about Messianic Jews and Beliving gentiles being the one new man?
Brother Joel, thank you so much for teaching. I actually believe that when Yeshua said he came for the lost sheep of Israel... the lost sheep of Israel are actually the true members of the church and we just don't know our heritage. Even 1% of a drop of Hebrew blood makes you a great x 1000s grandchild of Abraham.
Salvation is by faith, not by bloodline.
And it bo longer matters (the genetics), as we are grafted in and adopted into the nation, commonwealth, the covenants by the blood of our Kinsman Redeemer. See the end of Ezekiel when the lands are repossessed by the tribes of Israel, and gerim (strangers)/ goyim attach themselves to the covenants and are then considered as native-born, inheriting the land with them, settling where we desire among the tribes. Beautiful.
And the rules of God's Kingdom is his Torah. It doesn't hurt to practice now.
By Faith We are the Seed of Abraham and the Promise of God
I won’t be able to make the summit meeting. I hope that it will be made available for viewing.
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Mid act Dispensationalists don’t teach there are two weddings. They believe Israel is the Bride of Christ and the Gentiles are the Body of Christ.
How do you explain Ephesians 3 (all of it)?
By Faith We are the Seed of Abraham and the Promise of God. Who is Israel ? Daniel 9 Say's your people and your City named after the Lord, Israel. Jesus Christ is Israel and the Tribe's of Israel are the Natural Branches and Christian's are the Wild Branches both Grafted into Israel Jesus Christ, All One in Jesus Christ Israel, as scripture says there is neither Jew nor Gentile all One in Israel Jesus Christ.
No difference between Israel and the Christian's, they are both Israel. When scripture speaking of Israel, it's speaking to both Jew's and Christian's Israel.
A believing Jew is not part of the Body of Christ?
@@dougsmith6346 Yes they are
@@scott596 Absolutely they are, or the apostles wouldn't be. How dumb is that? Jesus said that He had "other" sheep which He must bring into "this" fold. The "other" sheep are Gentiles. One Fold, One Shepherd. Rev. 22:3, 4 sheds light on the BODY of Christ in New Jerusalem, "And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and HIS [singular, meaning the Father and the Lamb are One] SERVANTS [not specific divisions, such as the Gentile Church, the Jews, the pre-law saints, and the Tribulation saints] shall serve Him. And THEY [each and every one whose names were written in the Lamb's book of life (His wedding list) before the foundation of the world] shall see His face; and His name shall be in THEIR [all the elect which comprise the Bride] foreheads."
Never man's 1st Born but any human who comes into covenant with YHVH by Grace thru Faith is Israel by the law of like kind from Day 3
The Law is a Curse, By Faith We are the Seed of Abraham and the Promise of God.
@@scott596 wrong, Legalism which Yeshua nailed to the tree is a curse
Rav Sha ul the Torah observant Pharisee of Pharisee's tells you plainly that Faith has not made the Torah of no effect He positively established the Torah.
YHVH Torah is the rain that causes the seed to grow fruit
Rav Sha ul plainly teaches you Rom 7:12
Besides the other facts like psalm 119:142
And it's a fact that He YHVH writes His Torah on the Heart of man those who comes into covenant with YHVH by Grace thru Faith are His First Born - Israel
And if you don't know it The Torah is the very Heart of GOD. And He proves that to all Humanity
So you can roll the Dice with hath god said or rather Believe Do & Be Blessed rather than cursed for those who are without the works of the Torah not for salvation but because they Hear & Obey their Fathers Words.
@@scott596 you should search for the removed language from the sefer of the Gimel lamed written back in the 1st century to those who tried to keep you under there legalistic observation of Takenot & Mahazim's Church Dogma used 3 times in Scripture ( dogma)
@@rocdajacable Galatians 2 and 3, the purpose of the Law, which has never saved anyone, only through Faith We are Saved as since the very Begining, as even Abraham was Saved through Faith, as We are the Seed of Abraham and the Promise of God through Faith. And like Abraham Our work's are Accounted for Righteousness. God Bless you
@@scott596 what is your point because I told you that .. are you that confused
Help me understand who populates the Millenium in this scenario.
How about all the youth who will be under the age of accountability (which nobody ever thinks about. Pre-tribs pridefully use this argument to their advantage, as if there is no other way to have people on earth during the millennium apart from the living tribulation saints. We're such "surface" thinkers, aren't we?), and all the children in the wombs of their mothers (yes, the lost mothers who have received the mark of Antichrist, who will be cast away by the angels with all the others upon the parousia of Christ. I seriously doubt Jesus will send pregnant women to hell with their innocent pre-born in their wombs). God bless you.
3:45 dispensationalism and historical pre-millennialist
So why does exodus also call Isreal God's firstborn son (Exodus4:22)? When first born is used in the Bible it denotes a position of prominence and someone that is special and one who will receive the inheritance of the father.
How could Jesus Christ of Nazareth enjoy his wedding if Israel was suffering so when he is the Hy one of Israel The king of Israel the lion of zJudah
... the sufferings are for Israel yes, but all whom have not accepted Jesus as THEIR Personal Savior !!! Keep studying PTL Allelu'jah 🙏🛐
there is only one vine. gentiles are grafted into that vine. that vine is Israel. we are grafted into Israel. Keep studying. Praise The Lord. All Glory to God. God bless you and keep you.
Who is Israel ? Daniel 9 Say's your people and your City named after the Lord, Israel. So Jesus Christ is Israel, and the Tribe's of Israel are the Natural Branches and Christian's are the Wild Branches both Grafted into Israel, Jesus Christ. As scripture says there is neither Jew nor Gentile, all One in Jesus Christ Israel. By Faith We are the Seed of Abraham and the Promise of God, so what happens to Israel also Happens to Christian's.
Im willing to listen to both sides, and then study Gods word myself. Why do you have to say Schizophrenic? I didnt need to go through all of that to understand it. Its not that difficult.
I did not call pre-tribbers schizophrenic. I was simply making fun of confusing Dispensational time-line charts and saying they are crazy complicated and confusing. Nothing more.
Only those who believe in Christ will be in the wedding…is that correct? Sometimes these newer teaching don’t make sense to me.
Jew's and Christian's believe in the Holy Messiah Yeshua Hamashiac, Jesus Christ. But most Jew's don't believe he came Yet, they are still waiting for Him !
And Eventually they will believe he came and will Return ! When does Jesus Christ Return ? When the Tribe's of Israel call upon the name of the Holy Messiah Yeshua Hamashiac Jesus Christ and then they shall look upon Him whom they Pierced and be Saved, through Faith in Jesus Christ and the Word of God.
By Faith We are the Seed of Abraham and the Promise of God !
Who is Israel ? Daniel 9 says your people and your City named after the Lord, Israel. Jesus Christ is Israel, and the Tribe's of Israel are the Natural Branches and Christian's are the Wild Branches both Grafted into Israel Jesus Christ. There is neither Jew nor Gentile all One in Israel Jesus Christ.
Roman's 11 when all Israel will be Saved.
Question: So at what point does “we will be caught up to meet him in the air” happen? Thanks for the teaching!
See Matthew 24:29-31
Alao John 6:39
You know, I don't have a problem in my thinking of God as my father and creator. Jesus is Lord, and King of Creation. Got it. I do have trouble however, and feel quite uncomfortable when I hear references to being part of the "Bride of Christ". Is that quite necessary for people to talk like that? Why can't people speak of their creator without the homoerotic imagery?
Why am I the only person who says this? Is there something wrong with me?
It's a biblical analogy.
Humans who hear and agree and do the ketubah (Torah), which includes Yeshua being our exclusive, one and only groom and kinsman redeemer,, are the bride. God is the Father and the Creator of both the heavenly and earthly order of "family." Adoption in the Bible is full and complete. Learn the rules of the household, and how beautiful, natural, and full of blessing they are, because we have a good Father. Do what pleases HIM, not ourselves or the world. We will end up pleased for real if we do.
Work out your salvation in...😮...ah, awe...What is sin?
He gave us the manual, the ketubah.
Psalm 119.
The Law is a Curse, to Cause the people to Repent. By Faith We are the Seed of Abraham and the Promise of God.
@32:13 you make an error in your interpretation and/or in your reading of scripture.
You say Ezekiel 16 is about Israel. But the scripture specifically says it is Jerusalem.
Now we can argue about the interpretation of what Jerusalem stands for in this passage but for you to just say it is about Israel is a little misleading for those that are listening and do not know that in that passage it is specifically about the city of Jerusalem.
I’m not saying you are being misleading on purpose. But by putting your interpretation on the passage without acknowledging the that it doesn’t actually say Jerusalem is not fair to your listeners.
And actually hearing you take this view on this particular chapter explains to me how you misunderstand, in my opinion, who the harlot is. And why you think if someone say’s Jerusalem is the harlot you automatically think they are saying Israel is the harlot so they are just antisemitic.
Jerusalem does not necessarily symbolize “all of Israel” every time you see it used.
Jerusalem represents Israel.
@@JoelRichardson lol….I’ll still disagree…but I love the concise reply lol
@@JoelRichardson From my understanding in the Old Testament there is the northern kingdom, the 10 tribes specifically called Israel and the southern kingdom called Judah where Jerusalem is located.
There are numerous passages that speak to these two kingdoms separately.
It would seem there would be times when we read about Jerusalem that it is not referring to Israel but to the southern kingdom.
There are also passages where God addresses the “men of Judah and the residents of Jerusalem”.
@@onehappydawg You're confusing categories. You will not find a serious commentator who will say Ezekiel 16 is about anything other than Israel.
I have to disagree with you Joel, dispensationalism isn't wild or crazy as you depict. And what you mentioned isn't accurate on the pre-tribulational rapture view.
Respectfully, I would say you teach a leaky form of dispensationalism.
Also, I don't appreciate nor do I think it is correct to make dispensationalist out to be heretics, false teachers, etc.
Great pastors, scholars, and even the majority of the early church fathers (prior to the persecution and 300 AD) are/were pre-tribulational/pre-millennial.
Christians who teach on eschatology should be non-bias in their approach and cover all popular views.
However, it is normal for every teacher to have their own biased and a personal view (as they should). But their bias should be withheld from their teaching, otherwise you run the risk of creating divisions in the body of Christ like you normally do.
You make pre-tribulationalist out to not understand the scriptures or twist it.
Let's not divide over this issue.
I didn't call anyone heretics. I'd encourage you to go back and listen again.
@@JoelRichardson - you didn't say heretic specifically but you did call those that believe in pretribulationism "crazy, schizophrenic, and implied that they don't properly teach the word."
See the 7:00-8:00 mark.
I appreciate your boldness and your teachings - even when I disagree with you.
However, if you are honest, pretribulationism has been well defended by many great scholars and leaders - one of my favorites being Chuck Missler.
Are you saying Chuck Missler was schizophrenic?
Do you think he wasn't a good bible teacher?
It is okay to disagree on some doctrines and people's personal views on hermeneutics have a big role on your views on eschatology.
I appreciate you but I do believe you are creating unnecessary divisions in the body over your view on the rapture.
@@thephoenix0494 I did not call dispensationalists schizophrenic. Listen again. I was making fun of dispensational wall charts that are so chaotic and confusing. I jokingly compared them to the "crazy wall" in the movie Beautiful Mind wherein the main character is schizophrenic. That's it. Even Dispensationalists make fun of the wall charts.
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Israel is the Bride but the groom is those that are obedient to God's Biblical Torah ( teaching and instruction ) Exodus coming out of the Nations,.. Blessings brother's and sister's Prepare...
the groom is those that are obedient to the 'Torah'? Jesus is the groom. I'm sure everyone is in agreement with Jesus being the groom, but I might be wrong
Humans who hear and agree and do the ketubah (Torah), which includes Yeshua being our exclusive, one and only groom and kinsman redeemer,, are the bride. God is the Father and the Creator of both the heavenly and earthly order of "family." Adoption in the Bible is full and complete. Learn the rules of the household, and how beautiful, natural, and full of blessing they are, because we have a good Father. Do what pleases HIM, not ourselves or the world. We will end up pleased for real if we do.
Work out your salvation in...😮... ah, what IS sin?
He gave us the manual, the ketubah.
Psalm 119.
The Law is a Curse
Uhm, no. The groom is Jesus, the Lamb of God. “Marriage supper of the Lamb”. Rev 19: 7&9
@@dwellinj1513 absolutely Right