Hyundai is really making cars. They are some of the cars ever made, and this is definitely one of them. It has looks, technologies and performance. It is a car choice in 2022.
@@gluttonousmaximus9048 New Ioniq is a step in a direction, which makes it the car that I have ever seen. I know many may disagree, but that's just how I feel about this car.
His videos don't have actual farts in them anymore, like they sometimes used to. Or that one (can't remember what) where he was scrambling to finish recording the voice-over because he needed to shit.
As someone who owns one of these, I can confirm that the Regen paddles are the most fun part of it. It is possible to get better than the EPA mpg rating. I got 67 mpg one day, granted I was driving through a construction zone with slow traffic
@@RegularCars yeah! I usually average between 52 and 57 (40-45 in the winter) but in slower traffic it can stay in EV mode longer. I wish I had the plug in so I could drive more than 3 miles on electric
@@RegularCars If you apply the same focus you give with shifting a manual as you do managing a hybrid car, you can squeeze a lot of MPG out of these cars. Managing the regen and throttle constantly in my Prius nets me 50 MPG on a 18 year old car and I have the same amount of fun as I did in my Volvo S70 T5 M5. Plus regen is second nature for truckers. B mode is like pulling the Jake brake on a truck, slowing without the brakes is fun.
I need a second car that is the anthesis of my Wrangler. Comfortable, great on gas, practical, inexpensive to own, quiet, and a great highway cruiser. Time and time again, I've ended up looking at this.
I rented an Ioniq Hybrid in Vegas last Nov. It got a real world 56mpg average. I went over 600 miles before filling it back up. Awesome range. More traditional than Prius hybrid.
My dad has a 2022 Ioniq Hybrid. If you drive a ton, it's fantastic. Beyond that, there's better cars, but not for the fuel efficiency you'll get. It averages 58-59mpg. It drops in the winter to the 40's, can get lower if it's really cold, but it's rare to get it below 40mpg in most places, but we live in Wisconsin. But in the summer? My dad had a picture of it once, going down the interstate on an 83 degree day, no wind doing 75 mph, he was averaging 78mpg. It is also INCREDIBLY quiet. You won't know your car is turned on when it's actually on.
Never thought I'd relate to a video so much. 2016-1/2 Cruze LT with a 6speed manual. It just simply exists, no issues, no fun, no frills, 40mpgs, it just exists in this invisible space that nobody looks twice at, and that is fine by me. It is my pragmatic vehicle of choice since 2015, gets me where i need to be safely and saving money so I can enjoy myself elsewhere.
@@_RiseAgainst hey my Impreza is faster than 10, I can almost get it to 9 if I drop the clutch hard enough and rev it high enough. Your right tho, having to drop into 3ed to pass people gets old quick
The Ioniq was kind of attractive when it first came out, but clearly looks like a last-gen car now. I think it's getting a refresh this coming year, and it's very needed. That said, it's a car your mom will borrow for the day and then tell all her friends at the book club about how nice it was while simultaneously forgetting what it's called or who makes it.
Hybrid cars make lots of sense. Unlike an EV, you never have to search for a charging station and plug it in and wait for it to charge. But unlike a straight gasoline powered car, it has the ability to store energy to be tapped when you need it while getting great gas mileage the rest of the time. At my advanced age I can't see myself ever owning an EV but I have come around to the idea of a hybrid now that there's a bigger choice and most of the early bugs have been worked out. As for the "dull and boring" styling, an interesting thing about cars is that you can't see them while you're driving them and I spend almost no time gazing adoringly at my car when it's parked.
I think the plug in hybrid is the best possible stepping stone to a full EV. It does what the hybrid does, plus you can plug it in for a couple dozen miles of electric only operation on the next trip. Gets you used to plugging the car in at night or when you'll be parked awhile. Got a ten mile commute and somewhere to plug in at work...you might not have to buy gas for many weeks...which introduces a NEW problem when that oxygenated gas loses it's energy and starts gumming things up.
That's why cars like the Volt will burn gas after X miles or Y time of EV-only operation, even if they're charged. It's not an issue, just the third or fourth round of "oh well yeah but" FUD that skeptics will come up with when you explain hybrids to them. Been driving a second gen Volt for years. I get 50 miles of range in the summer, 40 MPG on gas, and 300 foot-pounds of torque to play with. Charging it at 20 cents a kilowatt costs the same as if gas was $2/gal. I have a whole rant on deck about how it should have been a powertrain option for the Equinox instead of a niche small hatchback, but I have no complaints. It's the daily-est daily that GM ever dailied.
@@needfuldoer4531 The Volt and other PHEV's are definitely the way to go. Equinox EV is the one I'm most excited for based on projected looks and low base price, and for the few times a year I NEED to go more than 150 miles a day, well, I have other vehicles that can do that, or I can schedule a charging stop. It's really NOT much of a lifestyle change to go full EV it's just that first few weeks of remembering to plug it in, planning ahead for trips that exceed 80% of the range, and knowing or learning where charging stations are where you plan to be. It's a bit of culture shock and people fear that.
@@alanmoore78 Depends on your driving habits. If you have a commute, a PHEV makes a lot of sense, especially if you can charge at work, too. We live in a city and our car's limited mileage mostly comes from drives out of town, well beyond the battery's range. For us a cheaper regular hybrid like this makes sense. I've also looked at the PHEV Ioniq, but the bigger battery causes the cargo area floor to be about four inches higher, so the cargo area is very shallow. It wouldn't be adequate for road trips, as you can't load even smaller suitcases on their sides. It would be a challenge to carry even our modest luggage.
Kool. This is like Dynamic braking on a diesel-electric or electric locomotive. When the traction motors become "dynamo's" or generators and put currant back into the resistance grid or overhead wire. This has been around in railroad locomotives since the late 40's and is used every day on trains. Great idea.
I actually had one of these moments this weekend. after 2 years of ownership, I sold my Lexus LS430. it was one of my dream cars growing up, and I was fortunate enough to own it, drive it for two years trouble free, put 15k miles on it, and sell it for a grand less than I bought it for. I realized that owning a 16 year old flagship luxury car was not the best of ideas. toyotas, while reliable, are subject to aging. every time something wore out on that car I would look up what it cost to replace, and it was a fortune. my next car is going to be something like a corolla or a civic. if I ever want something like the LS again, it'll be a weekend toy.
"They just want to pay for their handle of Fireball, and 'put the rest on pump six.' " has got to be one the greatest lines I've heard in a LONG time. I came here years ago because I like cars. I'm here today because...well, I still like cars, but the writing on this show is exquisite!
The ioniq is a car for me, a person who enjoys commuting as much as I like standing in queue behind a person who thinks that not showering is their contribution to preserve water.
I got a 2019 model about a year ago, put around 25.000 km (15.000 miles) on it since, and love her so much. Can easily drive 900-1000km (5-600 miles) on a full tank of 40L (10.5 gal). Only issue I sometimes have is that the Smart Cruise Control system randomly stops working from time to time (probably because of front radar sensor). Truly an amazing car, has a lot of features you wouldn't expect. While it isn't a sports car at all its a nice and comfortable cruiser as well as a reliable and responsive speedster when adjusting your driving style. Truly one of the best hybrid models ever made imo.
You pretty much summed up my feelings about this car. I bought one recently and it is such a great commuter and small family car with great gas mileage. It is a very pleasant place to be.
I own one of these and the comment about just needing a car that works is incredibly true, it’s there when my old and fun cars are broken or I need to go on a road trip.
I’m going to make the argument that the Prius moved past it’s superiority complex years ago. I see people from all ideologies and geographies driving them because they’re cheap, reliable hatchbacks. The Ioniq seems like a more “normal” version of the Prius.
Eh, not in my area it hasn't. I still see Priuses rolling around here with an "Im better than you" mentality. And interestingly enough, theyre also the car i see involved in the most accidents around here.
@@Pacific_Spirit459 That's just bad driving, not smugness. Toyota's likely appeal to less experienced drivers because of their reputation for being sturdy, safe, reliable transportation. People who enjoy driving and are skillful buy other things.
In the days of $5 dollar gas prices and cars going 10k over MSRP, I can totally understand that sentiment regarding just buying a car that is relatively cheap, reliable and gets 40+ mpg. I have a Jeep now, but I'm eyeing a PHEV Mitsubishi Outlander whenever they finally refresh it.
You nailed it in the end. Imagine being a dad of few small kids, with stressful time consuming job, thats FUCKING DEAD just from his everyday duties as father and employee. There are milions of us. Yes you will always whine after few beers after your old classic interesting cars and motorcycles you used to have in your twenties, but you WILL NOT want them again, cause you have ZERO time and energy and money to waste. You just need reliable comfortable affordable transport that doesnt require any effort to maintain. If this shit happens to you one day, welcome, youre the real adult now.
I go through this and I only have one kid. To handle 2 kids I would need either a stay at home mom, or an au pair, or a side honey. Though really those could all be the same woman.
@@deusexaethera nah, thats rookie stuff, 2 working parents with 2-3 kids is still standard, i live in a part of the world where it is impossible to feed the family just from 1 salary, what you are talking about is the american dream valid 1950-1990 I guess? Thats gone forever. The other thing is, in todays world even if you had a stay at home mom, she would probably do nothing anyway, cause most women nowadays dont want to. They are either forced to work by financial situation or marry rich guy and expect servants to do all the work. There are exceptions off course.
I'm a young person with 0 children and still would prefer an electric/automatic car. What is fun for me while driving is the sights, talking to people in the car, listening to good music etc. What is NOT fun is changing gears, stressing about how fast I'm going or who to overtake, etc. I guess gearheads will think that makes me not like driving or not a good driver, but really I don't care. Some people like golf because they want to hit the ball hard, some just like to walk around outside for a bit, both are worthy in my book.
@@ohfouroneone well you obviously are not a gearhead, its totally fine, its not for everybody,you probably have totally different hobbies. What I was talking about is people like me, gearheads that gave up, cause it just doesnt go with busy adult lifestyle. The day has 24 hours and there just isnt room for tinkering with the machine and fun driving around, the priorities change. Most of us hope we will be those old dudes that got back to it when kids leave the house.
Yes but then you want a Corolla or civic. You don’t want a car where the universal forum advice is to carry a jump start since phantom battery drain hits frequently. 😂😂
Let me tell you something. I have a 2019 Ioniq Hybrid. It has over 169,000 miles on it. It is the most reliable car that I have ever owned. And by reliable, I mean no engine, transmission, steering, suspension, cooling, electrical issues. The only reason this car goes to a shop is to get its oil changed, tires rotated/replaced, and occasionally get its emissions module adjusted. Oh and it most definitely gets EPA rated MPGs. I regularly get between 55-60 MPG. Only when it is cold weather and/or raining out do I get less than 55 MPG. Sounds like the owner of this Ioniq either doesn't know how to drive it right to get the rated MPGs or is deliberately driving the vehicle harder than he needs to be.
Hey I think it’s pretty cool that the Ioniq comes with a 7 speed dual clutch transmission. It’s more fun than say your average Corolla or Elantra. Also it goes full EV mode all the way up to Highway/interstate speed.
MPG in hybrid varies greatly depending on temperature. my average for commute exceeds EPA during warmer months but drops drastically during colder months. my range has been high 30s' in the winter months driving NE hwys and mid 50s' commuting in DMV during warmer months. 15mpg is a huge variation but overall mid 40s' in colder months and low 50s during warmer months.
As someone who's young, works for minimum wage, and daily drives a Lifted XJ Cherokee with the current gas prices, a hybrid like a 1st gen Honda insight or Hyundai like this is looking more and more appealing.
Go to college, major in something that has a job waiting for you at the end. Make several multiples of minimum wage and you too can not worry about the price of fuel in your luxury sedan that requires premium and gets ~25 mpg 😎
Sometimes cars are just that, cars. That's why I love 90's Honda and Mitsubishi so much, so many different options and an entire fleet of "yeah this drives and won't bother you have a good day" types
Great writing on this episode. I can totally relate to the point "I just want something that's good." Which is why as I get older, the dang Toyota RAV4 s are on the top of my list for my next car.
This is how I ended up with my boring spec '19 RAV4. After years of fun cars with the 'fun' issues that come alongside em... I wanted something easy/comfortable to commute in. Something that I could fit people and stuff in easily, got decent gas mileage on regular, and was ultra reliable. And say what you will about crossovers, but I haven't thought about how steep a driveway is, cringed driving on a crappy road, or worried about being seen by a brodozer like I was in my Miata... The peace of mind is amazing. At the same time I dropped a grand on a decent VR sim rig to scratch the enthusiast itch, and if needed I'll just go borrow my brothers mustang. Zero regrets. Also the market is so crazy right now I could get nearly what I paid for this thing three years ago... with kia stingers bizarrely undervalued I am tempted to have a funmobile again...
That OG prius review is my goto first RCR video to send people. I grew up in Lehighton and spent lots of time volunteering at Hawk Mountain (did my hs and eagle scout service projects there too) so its nice to see some familiar scenery. If you ever saw a blue prius going way too fast on 895 that was probably me
Sometimes I just want fairly quiet, comfortable, efficient car with decent infotaiment system to listen to audiobooks and podcasts on my way to and from work.
The fact that the HV battery can charge the 12v battery if it goes dead is great. But Mr. Regular is wrong about needing a ton of juice to start the car. It needs very little. Only enough to close the main relays from the HV battery to the electric motor. These cars dont have starters. The HV motor turns over the engine. At least if these are anything like the prius.
THIS. And it of course also answers the alternator/tensioner style question. You can't see ist because it doesn't exist. DC converter from HV to 12 V, no need for an alternator.
I believe my 2020 Ioniq Plug in Hybrid only charges the 12V battery if I'm in drive mode. If I sit parked and drain the battery (which I did recently), the 12V won't be charged by the EV battery. I had to take off a piece of the door handle, use the manual key, unlock the back door from the inside, and climb into the trunk to reach the 12V battery to jump start it.
I think there's probably an article or a longform video to be made about how it seemed like we were headed for every car becoming a hybrid until gas got cheap, leading to companies scrambling to make EVs when Tesla got big
I own a 2020 Ionic EV. So it’s a bit different than this car. I use it for ride share. I rock level 3 regen all the time. It took some getting used to but I’m smooth with it now. Hyundai claims 170 mile range but even in winter I get 185 plus and in warmer months I see well over 220. I leased it, $3k down, $215/month no bs. This car makes me money. Love it.
A 300 mile range EV's battery cells distributed amongst 10 hybrids like this one - reduces net emissions and gas consumption more than 1 EV and 9 gas powered cars. some ppl do practical things and help the environment too in the process.
I think the main point of a full EV at this point is saving money on gas, because you don't buy it, and electricity is way cheaper. Personally I'd rather get the EV version of the Ioniq (if I could afford it) for this reason.
I can relate to so much of this. Once you get older and have a long way to work on top of other sorrows you just want to sit in your car, go to work and come home without having to worry about every little noise coming from the car or things feeling somewhat different. Sometimes things just need to work and if they have to be boring to do so, so be it.
Same reason I ditched a 1997 Ford Fiesta for a 2013 Citroën C1 (Toyota Aygo) - it stirs no emotion in me when I drive it, but it won't break every few months. At the beginning, I was worried I was becoming less of a "car guy", but then I realised I was actually becoming more of a life guy - there's more to life than wrenching on a beater in all weathers for the sake of potentially saving a few quid.
My ioniq replaced my Aygo which I owned for 5 years and 50k miles. The ioniq to me is the grownup extension to the principles of the Aygo. Cheap running costs and no fuss motoring.
Thank you Mr Regular Cars for making me feel better about my life. I own an ioniq and have been struggling with my maniless for sometime. But you smart poem like assessments in the middle of you videos always have a wealth of deep knowledge
I was in the market for the previous gen Ioniq after my Toyota Auris hybrid got stolen, but eventually went with the Auris again, first because the Hyundai drove like a regular automatic(it is one, just with the extra electric motor sandwiched between the engine and transmission), while Toyotas don't have a clutch or normal transmission to speak of and the electric motor powers the wheels directly, second the Auris is more B E I G E. Other considerations: -Cheaper than a Prius(+), more expensive than an Auris(-) -GDI engine(-) - there's just one injector - in the combustion chamber, while Toyotas have two - the other one in its regular spot. I'm still sceptical whether the former can be reliable without additional, periodical clearing of the gunk that accumulates on intake valves. -Way more gimmicks than Toyota(+). -Arguably prettier(+). The Auris has a face only a mother could love.
Hyundai's regen paddles are great for city driving. When I rent one of these cars I mostly just use the paddles and rarely touch the brake pedal. :) Would be interesting to hear your take on the Ioniq 5.
Man I thought it was just a Honda thing too. Its two extra levels of regen however and its + paddle to add regen instead. Sounds weird at first, but after a while it comes naturally. Never mind the B on the transmission after D is more regen in itself. (Honda City Hybrid)
Well, if you like the idea of driving around in city traffic without brake lights.... or is there some sort of deceleration sensor that activates the brake lights when engine braking? I really don't know.
We’ve got a 2019 Ionic hybrid. It’s got almost 60,000 miles on it with no hiccups. All I’ve had to do is put gas in it ( the oil changes are covered for 3 years) and it’s getting 45-55 mpg. When we were shopping for it we compared it to the Prius which was about $10,000 more and the warranty was for 2 years. The Hyundai had a 10 year warranty and the battery was covered for life. The Hyundai was a no brainer.
Actually in a way that actually is remarkable - they still make cars (sedans) when some other companies (US big three) have completely discontinued anything other than SUVs, crossovers, and trucks.
@@quillmaurer6563 As I said, Hyundai has been making some cars lately. Their cars really are just cars. It's insane how they can make a car, especially in this economy (at this time of day, too!)
I have the plug in hybrid version and i charge up for free at work with a 80 mile round trip commute. On a full charge it shows 29 miles of pure ev range. With using the regen braking i have pushed it to 43 miles before the gas engine kicked in .i have pretty much mastered the 1 pedal driving with max regen .Last tank of gas i got almost 1100 miles with an average of 99.98 mpg. Id drive this over a prius prime any day of the week.
I used to half-assed hyper-mile My "99 Impreza (OBS). I got 30 MPG pretty regularly. 32 When I could push it. Traffic makes it difficult. Light on the pedals, lowest RPM you can get away with, neutral whenever possible. I can see my self doing a similar thing with regenerative braking.
The hypermiling trick with regeneratice braking is to brake lightly enough that you will always use regen only and to only brake when really necessary. It's better to coast whenever you can. Oh and in a plug in hybrid you will stick to 30 mph. That way you maximize the total electrically only range you can cover.
That's how I use my PHEV ioniq. If you just count gas milage and not the electricity to charge my best fillup is over 200mpg, with regulars over 100mpg. My best highway trip was about 170 miles at 63mpg. It may not have power but I have fun playing the efficiency game instead.
I love my dinky little hybrid, I don't know why the dude doesn't get good gas mileage. I hover around 52 in my urban town and I can get as high as 62 while I door dash in Sarasota
I drove one of these as a rental once. I have literally nothing bad to say about it. Almost every rental car I drive I can find something to complain about. Not the Ioniq. Surprisingly fun to drive (maybe my expectations were just low?), sport mode gave it a little more zip, filled it up once and then forgot that gas stations existed for the rest of the trip. Extremely unoffensive as cars go, but honestly nice. I could see dailying one.
I got to try an Ioniq 5. I daily a manual C7ZO6… I now want an Ioniq 5 as well. Because sometimes you don’t need braaaapbraaap, sometimes you need to be able to just chill. The stereo is pretty solid, nothing is awful, just… works.
Is the normal Ioniq electro available in the US? You should try for a used one. Battery degradation is minimal on these and they are extremely efficient. They deliver consumption at highway speed that other EVs have as average. Quite outstanding EVs and known to last long
Lot of that applies to my parents' prius. It's a car for people whose lifestyle requires an car, but they don't want to think about it. And yeah that won't do 67mpg either unless you keep it under 45mph
I drive a 2021 Ioniq. I got the Blue/Base trim. The Blue trim gets a few mpg more. There are no paddles on the Blue trim. It has better warranty and mpg then a Toyota Prius. Also, it is one of the few Hybrid Cars without a CVT. The Ioniq has a Duel Clutch transmission. I did some research, the Ioniq Hybrid has the best MPG of any non plug on vehicle in the USA. I rarely get the epa mpg but still get 40-55 mpg.
Thanks for the informative review. I deal with these at work sometimes, but have never been in them long enough to get an idea of how they drive. Oil changes are pretty easy to do and the wheels/tires aren't that heavy to carry around when replacing components. Good to know that the fuel economy is not as high as Hyundai claims.
It's all about where, and how, you drive. I've had mid-40s mileage, and I've had almost 70s mileage. It's not like a break-in period or anything, just getting used to how to drive the car most efficiently.
Nothing wrong with that. I have a lot of seat time in a Prius and it's very good at what it's designed for. Great MPG, surprisingly good handling and braking, tons of room inside, reliable as the sunrise, and well built. It's slow, it's dorky, and the materials/features are lacking, but everything else makes up for it.
@@bwofficial1776 so why do you Prius drivers seem to go no faster than 38 mph down the on ramp going onto the freeway? Is that all the car feels like doing in that situation or do you just not care about getting up to speed?!
Maybe i'm getting old but when my wife had It for a couple of months I actually enjoyed it more driving it around in the city than my bmw 435d (that has more than double of the hp and torque) very relaxing experience and enjoyed even more using the paddles to regen,the 0-60 wasn't impressive but on highway 50-70 times were in the order of 5-6seconds so perfectly acceptable , the boot was also quite big and bigger than what you have there because in UK it has a different boot floor, the color was also a much nicer metallized blue. What i didn't liked is the touchscreen controls that are fingerprint magnets and the interior plastics. The colour and the texture reminded me a rhinocero's butt. Yeah a big wide rhinocero's butt with that black console bit in the middle there like an ass*ole.
I own since new a 2020 similar grey Ioniq. 100% electric version. Not an exciting car, but I enjoy its smooth and quiet driving experience. It's also the most efficient EV on the market, and saves me a lot of money, especially when recharging with my solar panels on sunny days. It's a modest car, okay, only a car. At the end of the day (and at the beginning), it's good to find peace and non-stressful driving, to be un-noticed in any situation. This car is gold to me when I want to be forgotten and live my life. I have no regrets. It's also surprisingly quick on a green light! Last but not least : it's not an SUV, thank you.
Wow I felt this one. Selling my focus RS soon for, most likely, a new insight. My commute is sucking any joy out of the RS experience, and I can’t justify racking up miles commuting an RS. Fuel economy first, fun second
Mr. Regular touched on this, but the fun in these cars comes from regen braking and throttle control. I do it all the time in my Prius and I get 50 MPG from a 18 year old car. A pretty good reward imo.
My wife owns one and she gets around 52 miles. It is not the best car on the road but that is not what we purchased it for. The vehicle is for one main reason, to save gas. It does have great heated seats and the ac is not bad. It is not a Tesla model 3, but it does its job pretty good.
I started driving a 2018 Ioniq hybrid recently (for most of the same reasons mentioned in the video) and if I drive like I always did in my older “fun” car, I get ≈45mpg. If I drive more conservatively and anywhere but the city, it’s easy to get that 55mpg combined
I own a 2018 ioniq hybrid. The regen paddles are only on the 2019 model onwards (at least in the UK). On my car, the paddles shift up and down the gears. The lead acid battery was deleted in 2017 I think, after hyundai found a way to use a small lion battery attached to the main battery to start the car. In this way, the ioniq is the same as some Porsches. This also saves about 20kg and frees up the cubby, as you mentioned. I get about 62 miles to an imperial gallon, which is about 52 US. Yes it's a little boring but it ticked all my boxes. Quiet, comfortable, dual zone climate, economical and more than fast enough for me. Mine has the subwoofer, too, which adds some punch to the audio. Oh, and the dual clutch gearbox is miles better than the Toyota Prius' e-cvt.
I keep circling back to hybrids because of this exact pragmatism. I want a fun car and I can have one, but I also need a practical car for loading up the hatch, the rare commute, or sitting in traffic to Philly. The temptation is to go electric and get to sit in quiet futuristic comfort without touching a gas station, but that also means a 600$/month car payment for the privilege. Plus, it’s hard to justify nearly 50k on a car that struggles with road trips off the beaten path, compromises cargo space for aerodynamics, and is a first generation effort that will look pitifully outdated in 10 years. And then there’s the thousands of Priuses on Craigslist for pocket change that are as reliable as all hell, efficient enough to outcompete a new EV for decades on cost and emissions, and even comes in a blobby van version. I want the future, the acceleration, the modern infotainment, the at home charging, but is it worth spending 3-5 times more on that instead of putting the money into the Miata or into the house? Damn it, I wish I could get a boring used EV with 250 miles of range for 15k and forget about the daily driver for the next decade, but the pandemic shortages fucked up the resale of the Bolt so I can’t get one of those for that price. And if I’m signing up for a monthly payment for an EV, it’d better be a modern wonder that will serve me for years without issues. Having driven a bland car as my only car, an unreliable fun car as my only car, and for a time owning a beater and the unreliable fun car together, I definitely see the appeal of a cheap modern reliable piece of vehicular transportation. I would get a rental sometimes and wonder why I’m dealing with boxer headgaskets, discontinued headlamps, and aux cable -> lighting dongles when a basic civic has carplay, radar cruise, and everything works fine and even the ride is decent and quiet. There’s just always the temptation to make the daily/reliable car something interesting or go used to get a better value or more features, but especially in the age of basic cars having effectively standard luxury features of yesteryear. It’s become harder still because I don’t have a daily commute anymore, so a daily car will sit even more so than before, but yet I still need the practicality every couple of weeks to the point that rentals wouldn’t do. I can justify a cheap weekend car but it’s gotten hard to justify spending a double digit percentage of my income on transportation when I’ve gotten used to budgeting 300$ a month for everything car related lately. Sorry for the story, feel free to ignore. You just really hit that dilemma on the head for me and it pisses me off that I realistically need to get myself a 10k Prius V or something like this an car. Carry on
Hyundai is always really optimistic about their MPG ratings...ive never gotten close to touching the 27 city MPG advertised on my Sonata, but i have exceeded the 36 hwy MPG on occasion so theres that.
Huh, now that I think about it, how do they test city MPG anyways? Because I have a feeling that more congested cities like New York or LA are gonna give you a way different reading than some other average city.
@Driver 637 true, im only saying that they dont really live up to the ratings, at least in my experience. And im a casual driver, brake slow and accelerate smoothly
@Driver 637 Actually, most cars are not tested by the EPA (it would cost too much.) There is a formula used for calculating gas mileage, and the automakers are responsible for doing the math. That's how Hyundai got in trouble eith the EPA about a decade ago - they weren't doing the calculations right. Hyundai brought it to the attention of the EPA and had to pay off buyers who had been misled by the overly high numbers.
@@RegularCars I’ve got it on the Saturn and I swear its almost a perfect conversion. The only thing missing is me throwing quarters at it by the hand full.
My wife's Ioniq Plugin has flappy paddles that control the transmission. Grab the left paddle and it will down shift, toss the car into sport, and tighten up the throttle. No adjustable Regen though. As someone who owns a Fiesta ST I do actually enjoy driving this car on long trips. Doing 65 up the mountain highways over the sierras while maintaining 60mpg is not as deathly boring as I thought. We do still have the 12v battery in the back, it's been a little problematic with PG&Es constant outages while charging. It somehow drains the 12v battery when the charger loses power without being unplugged. We have to start the car and run it for a moment to ensure the battery doesn't just die, simply unplugging it is not enough.
Hyundai consistently ranks among the top 4 most reliable brands here in Europe as rated by insurance companies, the other 3 being Honda, Lexus and Toyota. I think that says a whole lot about how good hoondaze have become.
Wow lol, we leased my wife one of these last year. Great little car, not super fun but holy shit is it efficient. I want to drive one with some real tires on it because the chassis feels pretty good itself, but those tires are not going to let you do much. In the one year we've had it so far, it's been excellent. 👌
As a current ‘17 WRX owner myself, I recently got a promotion but 42 miles from home. I drive more than 80 miles each day and have to fill up every 5 days. I relate to this guy and how I’d miss the AWD and manual, but it’s getting annoying to pay $68 for gas twice a week and for a bumpy ride. Nice writing!
This car is attractive to real gearheads. In fact, it attracts every gearhead in the universe with a force proportional to the product of their masses and inversely proportional to the distance between them.
I have driven mine for about a year now and regularly get >60 mpg for a 13 mile commute when the outside temperature is over 50F. Last summer I did a roadtrip with mainly 100 km/h (63 mph) limits and did approximately 55 mpg during the final 600 miles.
See who can make the most beige appliance. Perfectly stated. I feel like most cars are becoming "An Cars" and are purely appliances lately. I too have traded out of a WRX for "An Car" (crosstrek) so I totally get this content! Well put in this, Mr. Regular.
👏🏻😂💯 YES!!! I second this ^ motion! I love the raw, say it again if I messed up the line, no retakes reviews filled with obscure references... Never change.
Hyundai is really making cars. They are some of the cars ever made, and this is definitely one of them.
It has looks, technologies and performance. It is a car choice in 2022.
Damn! Hot take you've got, almost sounds like it's a car or somethin'
@@gluttonousmaximus9048 New Ioniq is a step in a direction, which makes it the car that I have ever seen. I know many may disagree, but that's just how I feel about this car.
They may still be making shitty cars, but you are having issues making words ROFLMAO
@@whburton1 aye mate these cars are actually pretty good, i'd take an ioniq over a prius any day
Yes, this is very...car.
This is certainly one of the cars of all time.
It's truly an car of our time
Yep, out of all the cars I've ever seen, this is one of them
to say the least
Of all the cars ever made, this is.
😂😂😂
Mr. Regular is the type of guy who can record his lines while clearly in the bathroom and I'll still watch the review.
Let's be honest here, that's not outside the realm of possibilities for him.
His videos don't have actual farts in them anymore, like they sometimes used to. Or that one (can't remember what) where he was scrambling to finish recording the voice-over because he needed to shit.
@@quillmaurer6563 Subaru BRAT
Xbox achievement unlocked
The acoustics tell the story.
Of all the cars Mr. Regular has reviewed, this one is definitely the most recent
Yes. Yes it is. Until the next one.
But also one of the oldest new cars. They've made these for many years now.
That's not true at all
P😊😊@@ericbitzer5247
As someone who owns one of these, I can confirm that the Regen paddles are the most fun part of it. It is possible to get better than the EPA mpg rating. I got 67 mpg one day, granted I was driving through a construction zone with slow traffic
For real? your got 67mpg?
@@RegularCars yeah! I usually average between 52 and 57 (40-45 in the winter) but in slower traffic it can stay in EV mode longer. I wish I had the plug in so I could drive more than 3 miles on electric
@@RegularCars I had a Ioniq Lyft driver claim he gets 60mpg doing Lyft/Uber around Philly suburbs
@@RegularCars If you apply the same focus you give with shifting a manual as you do managing a hybrid car, you can squeeze a lot of MPG out of these cars. Managing the regen and throttle constantly in my Prius nets me 50 MPG on a 18 year old car and I have the same amount of fun as I did in my Volvo S70 T5 M5.
Plus regen is second nature for truckers. B mode is like pulling the Jake brake on a truck, slowing without the brakes is fun.
@@RegularCars Also an Ioniq owner who has hit 67 mpg, can confirm with pic as proof
I need a second car that is the anthesis of my Wrangler. Comfortable, great on gas, practical, inexpensive to own, quiet, and a great highway cruiser. Time and time again, I've ended up looking at this.
And the lack of a fragile hyundai CVT is a plus too
Gonna put in a plug for my Toyota Yaris iA too! Pretty sure rcr reviewed it but it was a while ago. >40mpg hwy without a hybrid system
TOYOTA COROLLA
My set up - gen 2 2004 prius and my 21 ridgeline in the garage
2nd gen Lexus GS 300. They run forever and are very comfortable and half the price of this brand new "An Car" or probably cheaper.
The Hyundai Ioniq is definitely the most car ever made
Willing to bet that no PHV or cab driver has ever used the regen braking thingy
'*one of them
@@expressway95 Serious Uber and Lyft drivers love to maximize their mpg. I'd not be at all surprised if they used them.
I rented an Ioniq Hybrid in Vegas last Nov. It got a real world 56mpg average. I went over 600 miles before filling it back up. Awesome range. More traditional than Prius hybrid.
My dad has a 2022 Ioniq Hybrid. If you drive a ton, it's fantastic. Beyond that, there's better cars, but not for the fuel efficiency you'll get. It averages 58-59mpg. It drops in the winter to the 40's, can get lower if it's really cold, but it's rare to get it below 40mpg in most places, but we live in Wisconsin. But in the summer? My dad had a picture of it once, going down the interstate on an 83 degree day, no wind doing 75 mph, he was averaging 78mpg. It is also INCREDIBLY quiet. You won't know your car is turned on when it's actually on.
Never thought I'd relate to a video so much. 2016-1/2 Cruze LT with a 6speed manual. It just simply exists, no issues, no fun, no frills, 40mpgs, it just exists in this invisible space that nobody looks twice at, and that is fine by me. It is my pragmatic vehicle of choice since 2015, gets me where i need to be safely and saving money so I can enjoy myself elsewhere.
I actually think they are decent looking as far as a simple commuter goes. 0-60 in 8.9 seconds is decent for a practical car.
An comment befitting this car.
8 sec 0-60 will always be my minimum. And I'm surprised they still make cars slower than that. Except suburu, they make some "10 sec cars"
9 sec 0-60 is getting into “dangerously slow” territory
@@_RiseAgainst hey my Impreza is faster than 10, I can almost get it to 9 if I drop the clutch hard enough and rev it high enough. Your right tho, having to drop into 3ed to pass people gets old quick
@@user59371 just imagine the merging speeds lmao like 4 seconds 40-55 and most places are 65
Hyundai Ioniq - official car of "this cubicle is my dream job."
Morgenson & Associates 4 LIFE!
I rented this on a trip in California, helped me not notice the insane fuel prices... and was consistently getting an average of 59 mpg
This is definitely one of my favorite episodes as of late, great writing
Thanks!
@@RegularCars This was definitely AN EPISODE
JK I loved it
Ruined by absolutely shit-tier audio
@@TheFlyingPineapple if you aren't watching this with no headphones on public transport, are you even a real fan?
The Ioniq was kind of attractive when it first came out, but clearly looks like a last-gen car now. I think it's getting a refresh this coming year, and it's very needed. That said, it's a car your mom will borrow for the day and then tell all her friends at the book club about how nice it was while simultaneously forgetting what it's called or who makes it.
Actually, they stopped making this kind of Ioniq. They have an entirely new line of Ioniqs that are electric only, very different from the original.
Hybrid cars make lots of sense. Unlike an EV, you never have to search for a charging station and plug it in and wait for it to charge. But unlike a straight gasoline powered car, it has the ability to store energy to be tapped when you need it while getting great gas mileage the rest of the time. At my advanced age I can't see myself ever owning an EV but I have come around to the idea of a hybrid now that there's a bigger choice and most of the early bugs have been worked out. As for the "dull and boring" styling, an interesting thing about cars is that you can't see them while you're driving them and I spend almost no time gazing adoringly at my car when it's parked.
I think the plug in hybrid is the best possible stepping stone to a full EV. It does what the hybrid does, plus you can plug it in for a couple dozen miles of electric only operation on the next trip. Gets you used to plugging the car in at night or when you'll be parked awhile. Got a ten mile commute and somewhere to plug in at work...you might not have to buy gas for many weeks...which introduces a NEW problem when that oxygenated gas loses it's energy and starts gumming things up.
That's why cars like the Volt will burn gas after X miles or Y time of EV-only operation, even if they're charged. It's not an issue, just the third or fourth round of "oh well yeah but" FUD that skeptics will come up with when you explain hybrids to them.
Been driving a second gen Volt for years. I get 50 miles of range in the summer, 40 MPG on gas, and 300 foot-pounds of torque to play with. Charging it at 20 cents a kilowatt costs the same as if gas was $2/gal. I have a whole rant on deck about how it should have been a powertrain option for the Equinox instead of a niche small hatchback, but I have no complaints. It's the daily-est daily that GM ever dailied.
@@needfuldoer4531 The Volt and other PHEV's are definitely the way to go. Equinox EV is the one I'm most excited for based on projected looks and low base price, and for the few times a year I NEED to go more than 150 miles a day, well, I have other vehicles that can do that, or I can schedule a charging stop. It's really NOT much of a lifestyle change to go full EV it's just that first few weeks of remembering to plug it in, planning ahead for trips that exceed 80% of the range, and knowing or learning where charging stations are where you plan to be. It's a bit of culture shock and people fear that.
@@alanmoore78 Depends on your driving habits. If you have a commute, a PHEV makes a lot of sense, especially if you can charge at work, too. We live in a city and our car's limited mileage mostly comes from drives out of town, well beyond the battery's range. For us a cheaper regular hybrid like this makes sense. I've also looked at the PHEV Ioniq, but the bigger battery causes the cargo area floor to be about four inches higher, so the cargo area is very shallow. It wouldn't be adequate for road trips, as you can't load even smaller suitcases on their sides. It would be a challenge to carry even our modest luggage.
You don't spend time just staring at your car?
Kool. This is like Dynamic braking on a diesel-electric or electric locomotive. When the traction motors become "dynamo's" or generators and put currant back into the resistance grid or overhead wire. This has been around in railroad locomotives since the late 40's and is used every day on trains. Great idea.
the slight echoing here makes me feeling like Mr. Regular is stuck in that 'THERE IS ALWAYS A FUEL SHORTAGE' mode in the classic Mini review
Thanks?
Fuel at any price costs more than I want to pay if I can avoid it.
I actually had one of these moments this weekend. after 2 years of ownership, I sold my Lexus LS430. it was one of my dream cars growing up, and I was fortunate enough to own it, drive it for two years trouble free, put 15k miles on it, and sell it for a grand less than I bought it for. I realized that owning a 16 year old flagship luxury car was not the best of ideas. toyotas, while reliable, are subject to aging. every time something wore out on that car I would look up what it cost to replace, and it was a fortune. my next car is going to be something like a corolla or a civic. if I ever want something like the LS again, it'll be a weekend toy.
"They just want to pay for their handle of Fireball, and 'put the rest on pump six.' " has got to be one the greatest lines I've heard in a LONG time.
I came here years ago because I like cars. I'm here today because...well, I still like cars, but the writing on this show is exquisite!
The ioniq is a car for me, a person who enjoys commuting as much as I like standing in queue behind a person who thinks that not showering is their contribution to preserve water.
I got a 2019 model about a year ago, put around 25.000 km (15.000 miles) on it since, and love her so much. Can easily drive 900-1000km (5-600 miles) on a full tank of 40L (10.5 gal). Only issue I sometimes have is that the Smart Cruise Control system randomly stops working from time to time (probably because of front radar sensor). Truly an amazing car, has a lot of features you wouldn't expect. While it isn't a sports car at all its a nice and comfortable cruiser as well as a reliable and responsive speedster when adjusting your driving style. Truly one of the best hybrid models ever made imo.
You pretty much summed up my feelings about this car. I bought one recently and it is such a great commuter and small family car with great gas mileage. It is a very pleasant place to be.
You know Hyundai is winning the _boring wars_ when 70% one of my Lyfts for the last 12 months have been an Ionic hybrids instead of a Prius...
I own one of these and the comment about just needing a car that works is incredibly true, it’s there when my old and fun cars are broken or I need to go on a road trip.
I'm glad that fiddling with regen paddles is being recognized as the joy it is.
Toyota's hybrids have a shifter position that goes to full regen. It's not much but it's great for scrubbing off 5MPH going into a curve.
I’m going to make the argument that the Prius moved past it’s superiority complex years ago. I see people from all ideologies and geographies driving them because they’re cheap, reliable hatchbacks. The Ioniq seems like a more “normal” version of the Prius.
Eh, not in my area it hasn't. I still see Priuses rolling around here with an "Im better than you" mentality.
And interestingly enough, theyre also the car i see involved in the most accidents around here.
@@Pacific_Spirit459 I'm curious how exactly you can read the minds of your fellow drivers.
@@stevethepocket Pretty easy when you see them regularly cut off semis, change lanes without signaling, tailgate, etc.
@@Pacific_Spirit459 That's just bad driving, not smugness. Toyota's likely appeal to less experienced drivers because of their reputation for being sturdy, safe, reliable transportation. People who enjoy driving and are skillful buy other things.
@@markmiller3279 I still don't trust a Prius as far as I can throw one. And I'll continue to call double parked priuses idiots.
In the days of $5 dollar gas prices and cars going 10k over MSRP, I can totally understand that sentiment regarding just buying a car that is relatively cheap, reliable and gets 40+ mpg. I have a Jeep now, but I'm eyeing a PHEV Mitsubishi Outlander whenever they finally refresh it.
$5 dollars for a gallon of gas? Jeez, try double that. That's what we pay in the UK.....
one of the mechanics I work with (motorcycle, not car) has a PHEV Outlander and loves it. Good mpg and heaps of space.
I was half expecting Harold Jablonsky to jump in and say "BUSINESS" after the mention of 4 wheel disc brakes.
You nailed it in the end. Imagine being a dad of few small kids, with stressful time consuming job, thats FUCKING DEAD just from his everyday duties as father and employee. There are milions of us. Yes you will always whine after few beers after your old classic interesting cars and motorcycles you used to have in your twenties, but you WILL NOT want them again, cause you have ZERO time and energy and money to waste. You just need reliable comfortable affordable transport that doesnt require any effort to maintain.
If this shit happens to you one day, welcome, youre the real adult now.
I go through this and I only have one kid. To handle 2 kids I would need either a stay at home mom, or an au pair, or a side honey. Though really those could all be the same woman.
@@deusexaethera nah, thats rookie stuff, 2 working parents with 2-3 kids is still standard, i live in a part of the world where it is impossible to feed the family just from 1 salary, what you are talking about is the american dream valid 1950-1990 I guess? Thats gone forever. The other thing is, in todays world even if you had a stay at home mom, she would probably do nothing anyway, cause most women nowadays dont want to. They are either forced to work by financial situation or marry rich guy and expect servants to do all the work. There are exceptions off course.
I'm a young person with 0 children and still would prefer an electric/automatic car. What is fun for me while driving is the sights, talking to people in the car, listening to good music etc. What is NOT fun is changing gears, stressing about how fast I'm going or who to overtake, etc. I guess gearheads will think that makes me not like driving or not a good driver, but really I don't care. Some people like golf because they want to hit the ball hard, some just like to walk around outside for a bit, both are worthy in my book.
@@ohfouroneone well you obviously are not a gearhead, its totally fine, its not for everybody,you probably have totally different hobbies. What I was talking about is people like me, gearheads that gave up, cause it just doesnt go with busy adult lifestyle. The day has 24 hours and there just isnt room for tinkering with the machine and fun driving around, the priorities change. Most of us hope we will be those old dudes that got back to it when kids leave the house.
Yes but then you want a Corolla or civic. You don’t want a car where the universal forum advice is to carry a jump start since phantom battery drain hits frequently. 😂😂
Let me tell you something. I have a 2019 Ioniq Hybrid. It has over 169,000 miles on it. It is the most reliable car that I have ever owned. And by reliable, I mean no engine, transmission, steering, suspension, cooling, electrical issues. The only reason this car goes to a shop is to get its oil changed, tires rotated/replaced, and occasionally get its emissions module adjusted. Oh and it most definitely gets EPA rated MPGs. I regularly get between 55-60 MPG. Only when it is cold weather and/or raining out do I get less than 55 MPG. Sounds like the owner of this Ioniq either doesn't know how to drive it right to get the rated MPGs or is deliberately driving the vehicle harder than he needs to be.
Hey I think it’s pretty cool that the Ioniq comes with a 7 speed dual clutch transmission. It’s more fun than say your average Corolla or Elantra. Also it goes full EV mode all the way up to Highway/interstate speed.
MPG in hybrid varies greatly depending on temperature. my average for commute exceeds EPA during warmer months but drops drastically during colder months. my range has been high 30s' in the winter months driving NE hwys and mid 50s' commuting in DMV during warmer months. 15mpg is a huge variation but overall mid 40s' in colder months and low 50s during warmer months.
Reinflate your tires when the weather gets cold. It helps a little.
As someone who's young, works for minimum wage, and daily drives a Lifted XJ Cherokee with the current gas prices, a hybrid like a 1st gen Honda insight or Hyundai like this is looking more and more appealing.
Go to college, major in something that has a job waiting for you at the end. Make several multiples of minimum wage and you too can not worry about the price of fuel in your luxury sedan that requires premium and gets ~25 mpg 😎
As someone who works for a rental car company, those paddles are the saving grace of my boring ass days
That’s hilarious 😂that’s how I felt working at Toyota. A V6 Camry was the most fun we had.
Sometimes cars are just that, cars. That's why I love 90's Honda and Mitsubishi so much, so many different options and an entire fleet of "yeah this drives and won't bother you have a good day" types
Great writing on this episode. I can totally relate to the point "I just want something that's good." Which is why as I get older, the dang Toyota RAV4 s are on the top of my list for my next car.
Rav4's are legit!
Get one of the hybrid Rav4s. The non-hybrid engine drones and buzzes.
This is how I ended up with my boring spec '19 RAV4. After years of fun cars with the 'fun' issues that come alongside em... I wanted something easy/comfortable to commute in. Something that I could fit people and stuff in easily, got decent gas mileage on regular, and was ultra reliable. And say what you will about crossovers, but I haven't thought about how steep a driveway is, cringed driving on a crappy road, or worried about being seen by a brodozer like I was in my Miata... The peace of mind is amazing.
At the same time I dropped a grand on a decent VR sim rig to scratch the enthusiast itch, and if needed I'll just go borrow my brothers mustang. Zero regrets.
Also the market is so crazy right now I could get nearly what I paid for this thing three years ago... with kia stingers bizarrely undervalued I am tempted to have a funmobile again...
I gotta say those regen paddles sound like tons of fun
Yea, they give you something to do
That OG prius review is my goto first RCR video to send people. I grew up in Lehighton and spent lots of time volunteering at Hawk Mountain (did my hs and eagle scout service projects there too) so its nice to see some familiar scenery. If you ever saw a blue prius going way too fast on 895 that was probably me
Sometimes I just want fairly quiet, comfortable, efficient car with decent infotaiment system to listen to audiobooks and podcasts on my way to and from work.
You keep this filth to yourself 😒
The fact that the HV battery can charge the 12v battery if it goes dead is great. But Mr. Regular is wrong about needing a ton of juice to start the car. It needs very little. Only enough to close the main relays from the HV battery to the electric motor. These cars dont have starters. The HV motor turns over the engine. At least if these are anything like the prius.
I was wondering about this.
THIS. And it of course also answers the alternator/tensioner style question. You can't see ist because it doesn't exist. DC converter from HV to 12 V, no need for an alternator.
I believe my 2020 Ioniq Plug in Hybrid only charges the 12V battery if I'm in drive mode. If I sit parked and drain the battery (which I did recently), the 12V won't be charged by the EV battery. I had to take off a piece of the door handle, use the manual key, unlock the back door from the inside, and climb into the trunk to reach the 12V battery to jump start it.
I think there's probably an article or a longform video to be made about how it seemed like we were headed for every car becoming a hybrid until gas got cheap, leading to companies scrambling to make EVs when Tesla got big
Of all the cars I’ve ever seen, this is among them.
I own a 2020 Ionic EV. So it’s a bit different than this car. I use it for ride share. I rock level 3 regen all the time. It took some getting used to but I’m smooth with it now. Hyundai claims 170 mile range but even in winter I get 185 plus and in warmer months I see well over 220. I leased it, $3k down, $215/month no bs. This car makes me money. Love it.
Leases car for ride sharing? Unlimited mileage package?
@@danielmorris6584 There are companies that specifically lease cars to rideshare drivers.
@@danielmorris6584 I took the 15,000 mile/year lease. I’m retired so I’m a part timer for RS. It’s more than enough for my mileage.
@@markmiller3279 I got mine from a regular Hyundai dealership in Goshen NY.
I wear brown shoes, and I approve of this car.
A 300 mile range EV's battery cells distributed amongst 10 hybrids like this one - reduces net emissions and gas consumption more than 1 EV and 9 gas powered cars.
some ppl do practical things and help the environment too in the process.
I think the main point of a full EV at this point is saving money on gas, because you don't buy it, and electricity is way cheaper. Personally I'd rather get the EV version of the Ioniq (if I could afford it) for this reason.
I can relate to so much of this. Once you get older and have a long way to work on top of other sorrows you just want to sit in your car, go to work and come home without having to worry about every little noise coming from the car or things feeling somewhat different. Sometimes things just need to work and if they have to be boring to do so, so be it.
Same reason I ditched a 1997 Ford Fiesta for a 2013 Citroën C1 (Toyota Aygo) - it stirs no emotion in me when I drive it, but it won't break every few months. At the beginning, I was worried I was becoming less of a "car guy", but then I realised I was actually becoming more of a life guy - there's more to life than wrenching on a beater in all weathers for the sake of potentially saving a few quid.
A reliable French car? That's pretty rare i think
Edit: French-Japanese toaster
@@bandvitromania9642 that’s because it’s mostly identical to the toyota aygo
@@Gnerko123 true
My ioniq replaced my Aygo which I owned for 5 years and 50k miles. The ioniq to me is the grownup extension to the principles of the Aygo. Cheap running costs and no fuss motoring.
@@bandvitromania9642 only the badge is French. It's a Czech-built Toyota.
Thank you Mr Regular Cars for making me feel better about my life. I own an ioniq and have been struggling with my maniless for sometime. But you smart poem like assessments in the middle of you videos always have a wealth of deep knowledge
I was in the market for the previous gen Ioniq after my Toyota Auris hybrid got stolen, but eventually went with the Auris again, first because the Hyundai drove like a regular automatic(it is one, just with the extra electric motor sandwiched between the engine and transmission), while Toyotas don't have a clutch or normal transmission to speak of and the electric motor powers the wheels directly, second the Auris is more B E I G E.
Other considerations:
-Cheaper than a Prius(+), more expensive than an Auris(-)
-GDI engine(-) - there's just one injector - in the combustion chamber, while Toyotas have two - the other one in its regular spot. I'm still sceptical whether the former can be reliable without additional, periodical clearing of the gunk that accumulates on intake valves.
-Way more gimmicks than Toyota(+).
-Arguably prettier(+). The Auris has a face only a mother could love.
It's nice hearing Mr Regular doing his voice over from a Wendy's bathroom stall.
Hyundai's regen paddles are great for city driving. When I rent one of these cars I mostly just use the paddles and rarely touch the brake pedal. :)
Would be interesting to hear your take on the Ioniq 5.
Man I thought it was just a Honda thing too. Its two extra levels of regen however and its + paddle to add regen instead. Sounds weird at first, but after a while it comes naturally.
Never mind the B on the transmission after D is more regen in itself. (Honda City Hybrid)
Sounds like it's designed to support "one pedal" driving in various road conditions.
someone bring me an Ionic 5!
@@RegularCars Soon, I hope. It looks like an impressive car.
Well, if you like the idea of driving around in city traffic without brake lights.... or is there some sort of deceleration sensor that activates the brake lights when engine braking? I really don't know.
We’ve got a 2019 Ionic hybrid. It’s got almost 60,000 miles on it with no hiccups. All I’ve had to do is put gas in it ( the oil changes are covered for 3 years) and it’s getting 45-55 mpg. When we were shopping for it we compared it to the Prius which was about $10,000 more and the warranty was for 2 years. The Hyundai had a 10 year warranty and the battery was covered for life. The Hyundai was a no brainer.
Hyundai has been making some cars lately. It's impressive how their lineup is just cars.
Actually in a way that actually is remarkable - they still make cars (sedans) when some other companies (US big three) have completely discontinued anything other than SUVs, crossovers, and trucks.
@@quillmaurer6563 As I said, Hyundai has been making some cars lately. Their cars really are just cars. It's insane how they can make a car, especially in this economy (at this time of day, too!)
And some of the still have physical controls for HVAC!
Anything that requires a touchscreen for HVAC is on the do-not-buy list for me.
I have the plug in hybrid version and i charge up for free at work with a 80 mile round trip commute. On a full charge it shows 29 miles of pure ev range. With using the regen braking i have pushed it to 43 miles before the gas engine kicked in .i have pretty much mastered the 1 pedal driving with max regen .Last tank of gas i got almost 1100 miles with an average of 99.98 mpg. Id drive this over a prius prime any day of the week.
I used to half-assed hyper-mile My "99 Impreza (OBS). I got 30 MPG pretty regularly. 32 When I could push it. Traffic makes it difficult.
Light on the pedals, lowest RPM you can get away with, neutral whenever possible. I can see my self doing a similar thing with regenerative braking.
The hypermiling trick with regeneratice braking is to brake lightly enough that you will always use regen only and to only brake when really necessary. It's better to coast whenever you can. Oh and in a plug in hybrid you will stick to 30 mph. That way you maximize the total electrically only range you can cover.
That's how I use my PHEV ioniq. If you just count gas milage and not the electricity to charge my best fillup is over 200mpg, with regulars over 100mpg. My best highway trip was about 170 miles at 63mpg. It may not have power but I have fun playing the efficiency game instead.
Coasting in neutral doesn't save gas in a fuel injected engine. The ecu will cut fuel when engine braking.
"Hyundai knew they couldn't compete with Toyota in the Smug Department." Another 10/10 line out of many.
Like the time Honda made a hybrid that looked just like a Prius.
I love my dinky little hybrid, I don't know why the dude doesn't get good gas mileage. I hover around 52 in my urban town and I can get as high as 62 while I door dash in Sarasota
I drove one of these as a rental once. I have literally nothing bad to say about it. Almost every rental car I drive I can find something to complain about. Not the Ioniq. Surprisingly fun to drive (maybe my expectations were just low?), sport mode gave it a little more zip, filled it up once and then forgot that gas stations existed for the rest of the trip. Extremely unoffensive as cars go, but honestly nice. I could see dailying one.
I got to try an Ioniq 5. I daily a manual C7ZO6…
I now want an Ioniq 5 as well. Because sometimes you don’t need braaaapbraaap, sometimes you need to be able to just chill. The stereo is pretty solid, nothing is awful, just… works.
Is the normal Ioniq electro available in the US? You should try for a used one. Battery degradation is minimal on these and they are extremely efficient. They deliver consumption at highway speed that other EVs have as average. Quite outstanding EVs and known to last long
Lot of that applies to my parents' prius. It's a car for people whose lifestyle requires an car, but they don't want to think about it. And yeah that won't do 67mpg either unless you keep it under 45mph
This describes me. I don’t want to think ever about maintenance, reliability, or gas prices. And the prius fits the bill.
My ioniq blue gets 65mpg at 55-65mph.
I like how Mr. R couldn't even be bothered to improve his audio quality for the review.
I'd like to think he recorded this in the bathroom while P O O P I N G.
I drive a 2021 Ioniq. I got the Blue/Base trim. The Blue trim gets a few mpg more. There are no paddles on the Blue trim. It has better warranty and mpg then a Toyota Prius. Also, it is one of the few Hybrid Cars without a CVT. The Ioniq has a Duel Clutch transmission. I did some research, the Ioniq Hybrid has the best MPG of any non plug on vehicle in the USA. I rarely get the epa mpg but still get 40-55 mpg.
As van, i can confirm that this is not a car...
...but instead is *an car*
every car I own has to be fun. that doesn't mean that a car that isn't fun isn't a good car. this was actually an amazingly good review of this car!
Thanks for the informative review. I deal with these at work sometimes, but have never been in them long enough to get an idea of how they drive. Oil changes are pretty easy to do and the wheels/tires aren't that heavy to carry around when replacing components. Good to know that the fuel economy is not as high as Hyundai claims.
It's all about where, and how, you drive.
I've had mid-40s mileage, and I've had almost 70s mileage. It's not like a break-in period or anything, just getting used to how to drive the car most efficiently.
Get yourself a SO who'd hug you like Roman hugs his dream car.
Every time I look into cars purely based on my needs, I end with this. It's a car that is painfully practical.
Nothing wrong with that. I have a lot of seat time in a Prius and it's very good at what it's designed for. Great MPG, surprisingly good handling and braking, tons of room inside, reliable as the sunrise, and well built. It's slow, it's dorky, and the materials/features are lacking, but everything else makes up for it.
@@bwofficial1776 so why do you Prius drivers seem to go no faster than 38 mph down the on ramp going onto the freeway? Is that all the car feels like doing in that situation or do you just not care about getting up to speed?!
Jesus that Prius bit was so on point... sometimes the references you make scare me with how accurate they are to my life.
This is the most car I have ever seen, absolutely one of the cars of all time
This is like a gray crayon
@@RegularCars In a bag of gray crayons.
@@alechall7082 In an unmarked cardboard box. And discoballgaming, please go and buy an adjective, ffs.
@@RegularCars Candy Apple Grey. But then that is a great album.
The 17" wheels kill the MPG. I got the low trim (blue) with 15s and it does get well above 54mpg. Best I got was 62mpg on a tank.
Maybe i'm getting old but when my wife had It for a couple of months I actually enjoyed it more driving it around in the city than my bmw 435d (that has more than double of the hp and torque) very relaxing experience and enjoyed even more using the paddles to regen,the 0-60 wasn't impressive but on highway 50-70 times were in the order of 5-6seconds so perfectly acceptable , the boot was also quite big and bigger than what you have there because in UK it has a different boot floor, the color was also a much nicer metallized blue.
What i didn't liked is the touchscreen controls that are fingerprint magnets and the interior plastics.
The colour and the texture reminded me a rhinocero's butt.
Yeah a big wide rhinocero's butt with that black console bit in the middle there like an ass*ole.
I own since new a 2020 similar grey Ioniq. 100% electric version. Not an exciting car, but I enjoy its smooth and quiet driving experience. It's also the most efficient EV on the market, and saves me a lot of money, especially when recharging with my solar panels on sunny days. It's a modest car, okay, only a car. At the end of the day (and at the beginning), it's good to find peace and non-stressful driving, to be un-noticed in any situation. This car is gold to me when I want to be forgotten and live my life. I have no regrets. It's also surprisingly quick on a green light! Last but not least : it's not an SUV, thank you.
Aww! A flat-bottom steering wheel! That's so cute!
Audio Recorded in an open room with no deadening … it’s like a Voice of God with the subtle room reverb
Wow I felt this one. Selling my focus RS soon for, most likely, a new insight. My commute is sucking any joy out of the RS experience, and I can’t justify racking up miles commuting an RS. Fuel economy first, fun second
Mr. Regular touched on this, but the fun in these cars comes from regen braking and throttle control. I do it all the time in my Prius and I get 50 MPG from a 18 year old car. A pretty good reward imo.
We have this car. Got it for the same reasons. Long commute. We do average well above 50 regularly. Maybe it’s the driving conditions.
My wife owns one and she gets around 52 miles. It is not the best car on the road but that is not what we purchased it for. The vehicle is for one main reason, to save gas. It does have great heated seats and the ac is not bad. It is not a Tesla model 3, but it does its job pretty good.
OH MY GOD A REGULAR CAR
I started driving a 2018 Ioniq hybrid recently (for most of the same reasons mentioned in the video) and if I drive like I always did in my older “fun” car, I get ≈45mpg. If I drive more conservatively and anywhere but the city, it’s easy to get that 55mpg combined
but that’s no fun so 45mpg for me 🤪
I own a 2018 ioniq hybrid. The regen paddles are only on the 2019 model onwards (at least in the UK). On my car, the paddles shift up and down the gears.
The lead acid battery was deleted in 2017 I think, after hyundai found a way to use a small lion battery attached to the main battery to start the car. In this way, the ioniq is the same as some Porsches. This also saves about 20kg and frees up the cubby, as you mentioned.
I get about 62 miles to an imperial gallon, which is about 52 US.
Yes it's a little boring but it ticked all my boxes. Quiet, comfortable, dual zone climate, economical and more than fast enough for me. Mine has the subwoofer, too, which adds some punch to the audio.
Oh, and the dual clutch gearbox is miles better than the Toyota Prius' e-cvt.
I keep circling back to hybrids because of this exact pragmatism. I want a fun car and I can have one, but I also need a practical car for loading up the hatch, the rare commute, or sitting in traffic to Philly.
The temptation is to go electric and get to sit in quiet futuristic comfort without touching a gas station, but that also means a 600$/month car payment for the privilege. Plus, it’s hard to justify nearly 50k on a car that struggles with road trips off the beaten path, compromises cargo space for aerodynamics, and is a first generation effort that will look pitifully outdated in 10 years.
And then there’s the thousands of Priuses on Craigslist for pocket change that are as reliable as all hell, efficient enough to outcompete a new EV for decades on cost and emissions, and even comes in a blobby van version. I want the future, the acceleration, the modern infotainment, the at home charging, but is it worth spending 3-5 times more on that instead of putting the money into the Miata or into the house?
Damn it, I wish I could get a boring used EV with 250 miles of range for 15k and forget about the daily driver for the next decade, but the pandemic shortages fucked up the resale of the Bolt so I can’t get one of those for that price. And if I’m signing up for a monthly payment for an EV, it’d better be a modern wonder that will serve me for years without issues.
Having driven a bland car as my only car, an unreliable fun car as my only car, and for a time owning a beater and the unreliable fun car together, I definitely see the appeal of a cheap modern reliable piece of vehicular transportation. I would get a rental sometimes and wonder why I’m dealing with boxer headgaskets, discontinued headlamps, and aux cable -> lighting dongles when a basic civic has carplay, radar cruise, and everything works fine and even the ride is decent and quiet. There’s just always the temptation to make the daily/reliable car something interesting or go used to get a better value or more features, but especially in the age of basic cars having effectively standard luxury features of yesteryear.
It’s become harder still because I don’t have a daily commute anymore, so a daily car will sit even more so than before, but yet I still need the practicality every couple of weeks to the point that rentals wouldn’t do. I can justify a cheap weekend car but it’s gotten hard to justify spending a double digit percentage of my income on transportation when I’ve gotten used to budgeting 300$ a month for everything car related lately.
Sorry for the story, feel free to ignore. You just really hit that dilemma on the head for me and it pisses me off that I realistically need to get myself a 10k Prius V or something like this an car.
Carry on
What are you driving right now?
@@RegularCars a beat up ‘06 impreza wagon. 2.5AT. I’m between Miatas and you drove my IS350 which is what I’m calling the boring one
The crazy thing is this car can do 0-60.
I’ve become a khaki pants driver focusing on safety and reliability. Now, I support other car fans’ enthusiasm and projects.
This is the car I have ever seen
That's why I got my Fusion Hybrid. It's new and it works. And it looks good inside and out. And it's paid off.
Hyundai is always really optimistic about their MPG ratings...ive never gotten close to touching the 27 city MPG advertised on my Sonata, but i have exceeded the 36 hwy MPG on occasion so theres that.
Huh, now that I think about it, how do they test city MPG anyways? Because I have a feeling that more congested cities like New York or LA are gonna give you a way different reading than some other average city.
@Driver 637 true, im only saying that they dont really live up to the ratings, at least in my experience. And im a casual driver, brake slow and accelerate smoothly
@Driver 637 Actually, most cars are not tested by the EPA (it would cost too much.) There is a formula used for calculating gas mileage, and the automakers are responsible for doing the math. That's how Hyundai got in trouble eith the EPA about a decade ago - they weren't doing the calculations right. Hyundai brought it to the attention of the EPA and had to pay off buyers who had been misled by the overly high numbers.
0:58 - The toyota prius owner impression is the funniest thing I've seen on this show LMAO. Got me in tears.
Simpleton I guess
The Children of the Atom reference is why I’m here. It’s like having a conversation with a version of me with more drive and motivation.
That was such a quarter-eater
@@RegularCars I’ve got it on the Saturn and I swear its almost a perfect conversion. The only thing missing is me throwing quarters at it by the hand full.
My wife's Ioniq Plugin has flappy paddles that control the transmission. Grab the left paddle and it will down shift, toss the car into sport, and tighten up the throttle. No adjustable Regen though. As someone who owns a Fiesta ST I do actually enjoy driving this car on long trips. Doing 65 up the mountain highways over the sierras while maintaining 60mpg is not as deathly boring as I thought.
We do still have the 12v battery in the back, it's been a little problematic with PG&Es constant outages while charging. It somehow drains the 12v battery when the charger loses power without being unplugged. We have to start the car and run it for a moment to ensure the battery doesn't just die, simply unplugging it is not enough.
I never heard "piece of mind" and "Hyundai" in the same breath before.
Hyundai consistently ranks among the top 4 most reliable brands here in Europe as rated by insurance companies, the other 3 being Honda, Lexus and Toyota. I think that says a whole lot about how good hoondaze have become.
@@jonytube If you want to own a reliable car for 10 years, it's not gonna be a Hyundai.
@@forfluf source: trust me bro
My driving is split between an 89 v6 firebird, and a 2000 neon. This would be a very car upgrade.
Wow lol, we leased my wife one of these last year. Great little car, not super fun but holy shit is it efficient. I want to drive one with some real tires on it because the chassis feels pretty good itself, but those tires are not going to let you do much.
In the one year we've had it so far, it's been excellent. 👌
As a current ‘17 WRX owner myself, I recently got a promotion but 42 miles from home. I drive more than 80 miles each day and have to fill up every 5 days. I relate to this guy and how I’d miss the AWD and manual, but it’s getting annoying to pay $68 for gas twice a week and for a bumpy ride. Nice writing!
This car is attractive to real gearheads.
In fact, it attracts every gearhead in the universe with a force proportional to the product of their masses and inversely proportional to the distance between them.
I have driven mine for about a year now and regularly get >60 mpg for a 13 mile commute when the outside temperature is over 50F. Last summer I did a roadtrip with mainly 100 km/h (63 mph) limits and did approximately 55 mpg during the final 600 miles.
The topic of this video is exactly why I traded my 2016 Fiat 500 Abarth for a 2014 Honda Civic Si, needed a car that works every time.
See who can make the most beige appliance. Perfectly stated. I feel like most cars are becoming "An Cars" and are purely appliances lately. I too have traded out of a WRX for "An Car" (crosstrek) so I totally get this content! Well put in this, Mr. Regular.
Never buy yourself one of those big podcaster microphones and ruin your signature "I'm editing this in my bathroom" acoustics :-)
👏🏻😂💯 YES!!! I second this ^ motion! I love the raw, say it again if I messed up the line, no retakes reviews filled with obscure references... Never change.
Had an ionic as a rental in Reno. It was pretty fun, as hybrids go, and easy to live with.