This wonderful symphony caused Tchaikovsky much heartache, but it is still a masterpiece and the first symphony written by anyone who hadn't studied in Germany/Austria. Svetlanov does well but the tempo marking for the 2nd movement is a quarter-note (crotchet) = 63, making this much faster than the composer's intended speed. The Finale is a glorious riot and who cares if it occasionally descends into bombasm once in a while? Don't we all? This is truly a remarkable piece by a fledgling composer and so much better than the 3rd, which would follow in 1875.
Having played principal bassoon for both this and the 4th so far, I actually enjoy the 1st a little more... It's a bit more intimate and slightly more demanding in some ways.
@@splodinatekabloominate846 Yeah I have only ever played in band but I visisted and played with my local youth orchestra for a day. It was a lot of fun becasue I had many solos. i auditioned a week ago and will get my results in a few weeks!
Svetlanov is a giant! A few years ago I bought a collection of all Miaskovsky Symphonies conducted by him. There's about 26 in all, some never previously recorded, with Svetlanov having to finance the orchestra himself! Nobody else brought out the Russian character better.
Симфония #1 2 часть сонатная форма с зеркальной репризой или двойные вариации Вступление 11.38 ГП (или первая тема по форме " двойные вариации") 13.10 ПП (или вторая тема по форме "двойные вариации") 14.18 Двойные вариации - это вариации на две темы
@@alandouglas4959 Rotfl. Even the orchestration of woodwinds - bassoon and flute doubling at the second octave - apart from similar thematic stock. The broken thirds in the strings even the choice of instruments. Its pretty glaring after knowing the Stravinsky well before hearing this. Stravinsky said that Tchaikovsky was "the most Russian of all of us". He was called neo-classical for a reason.
For me only Svetlanov can pull this symphony off. The other interpretations I found were too tame and lacking in Russian verve and full-blooded passion.
I'll not say I did not like the piece. But I waited for something more tragic. The Second Movement says "Land of Desolation, Land of Mists". I did not feel any desolation. I felt like walking through some snowy Meadow and building a snowman.
John Williams borrowed more than once from Tchaikovsky tbh... the Han & Leia love theme is very similar to the main theme from the first movement of his violin concerto and “Rey’s Theme” is borrowed from the beginning of this work (albeit in a different key): m.ua-cam.com/video/527Bb9IGZUE/v-deo.html
What's the point, though; everything not on the screen at any given moment basically has rests. And even then, some resting instruments are still shown.
@@maxgregorycompositions6216 I be a organist. Have conducted from full scores. Too easy to lose ones place when the score is truncated. No need to do that here. Not saving any paper.
@@robertgift As a composer and pianist, I prefer a nice, old-smelling paper score. No, you prefer wasted paper with lots of empty bars on lol. The first few pages are ok for this, to show all the staves on, and for conductors, but after that, condensed is the way.
When you look at the formal decisions Tchai makes one sees he was mature and inventive . I hate this old stuff and its backward harmonies and the progressions we've heard a million times . thankgod for Schnittke and Ustvolskaya etc. If I was in the audience the 2nd movement here would be a good place to let my dog from out of my coat and take a big yawn and FART!Onlt the Horn saves the 2nd mov. from really being a bore . how boring is this 2nd mov. I'm amazed that Nikolai Rub and some others didn't realize how stupendous the 1st piano concerto was when the composer played it for them .Maybe they were shocked at how good it was and insanely jealous! The question of courseis why are the 2nd and 3rd piano concerti so disinteresting andI think there is a smaller piano concertante piece too thatis insipid that cello with orchestra piece -never cared for it or the Serenade Melancolique . Doesn't matter it will always be more fun than what Arensky tcherepnin and so many others left us. te Scriabin piano concerto ? Why did Richter even bother . He sees what is blind to da rest of us . Heifets recorded Conus ! Well the libraries purchased it I'm sure back then ! This Russian music is too sentimental too long ago just like Rach -We don't need it our sensibilities in this century are moved quite beyond it ! Hooray for Gidon Kremer and his triumphant sponsorship of New and Needed Voices !!!
El segundo movimiento en mi opinión el más hermoso del romanticismo y de toda las sinfonías, sientes que después de la destrucción llegas a eso que los religiosos llaman el paraíso
What an excellent piece. Tchaikovsky was such a prodigy orchestrator.
He was a prodigy נימרוד שפר
@@nimrodshefer3649 He wasn't a child prodigy, but he was a prodigy
@@nimrodshefer3649 He was a prodigy and worked extremely hard.
One of his greatest works of all time and simply delightful !!!!!
The fourth movement, just wow!!! I loved this piece!!!
This wonderful symphony caused Tchaikovsky much heartache, but it is still a masterpiece and the first symphony written by anyone who hadn't studied in Germany/Austria. Svetlanov does well but the tempo marking for the 2nd movement is a quarter-note (crotchet) = 63, making this much faster than the composer's intended speed. The Finale is a glorious riot and who cares if it occasionally descends into bombasm once in a while? Don't we all? This is truly a remarkable piece by a fledgling composer and so much better than the 3rd, which would follow in 1875.
Actually, I happen to enjoy Tchaikovsky's 3rd symphony, nicknamed "The Polish" due to its "di polacca" marked finale. 😁😁😁😁
1 ч. Allegro tranquillo
Сонатна форма, g-moll
Експозиція:
-ГП: g-moll
0:04 - 1 элемент
0:43 - 2 элемент
1:35 - Кульмінація в ГП
-ПП: 2:17 D-dur
-ЗП: 3:39
Розробка:
4:08 - 1 розділ (на мат. ЗП)
5:27 - 2 розділ (на мат. ГП)
6:09 - 3 розділ (підйом)
Реприза:
6:51 - ГП g-moll
8:14 - ПП G-dur
8:52 - ЗП G-dur
Кода: 9:51 (фугато на 2 елементі ГП)
2 ч. Adagio cantabile
Тричастинна форма, Es-dur
11:35 - Вступ
14:14 - Осн.тема (рефрен)
15:06 - 1 эпизод
16:20 - 2-е проведение рефрена
17:19 - 2 эпизод
18:20 - 3-е проведение рефрена
19:58 - Кінець на темі вступу
3 ч. Allegro scherzando
Складна тричастинна форма, c-moll
21:32 - Основна тема c-moll
24:34 - Тріо (Вальс) Es-dur
26:52 - Реприза
28:16 - Кода (Вальс) c-moll
4 ч. Allegro maestoso
Сонатна форма, G-dur
Вступ, Andante lugubre:
29:03 - Тема рос. нар. пісні "Цвели цветики" g-moll
31:38 - Підйом
Експозиція:
32:05 - ГП G-dur
32:59 - ПП h-moll
Розробка: 35:05
Реприза: 36:12
Кода:
38:20 1 розділ на мат. вступу
39:05 2 розділ тема-цитата G-dur
Спасибо, вы спасли меня!
Having played principal bassoon for both this and the 4th so far, I actually enjoy the 1st a little more... It's a bit more intimate and slightly more demanding in some ways.
bassoon is really fun in orchestra
@@splodinatekabloominate846 Yeah I have only ever played in band but I visisted and played with my local youth orchestra for a day. It was a lot of fun becasue I had many solos. i auditioned a week ago and will get my results in a few weeks!
The best orchestra and conductor for Tchaikovsky!!!
Svetlanov is a giant! A few years ago I bought a collection of all Miaskovsky Symphonies conducted by him. There's about 26 in all, some never previously recorded, with Svetlanov having to finance the orchestra himself! Nobody else brought out the Russian character better.
I like the way Tchaikovsky uses the Crash Cymbals at the very end !!!
35:00 best part
When those Russian clarinets come in over the horns at 18:54 ❤️
Симфония #1
2 часть сонатная форма с зеркальной репризой или двойные вариации
Вступление 11.38
ГП (или первая тема по форме " двойные вариации") 13.10
ПП (или вторая тема по форме "двойные вариации") 14.18
Двойные вариации - это вариации на две темы
I love this work
In the beginning - like snow flakes falling.
Chaikovsky is one of the Greatest Composer in history of Music.
Great recording.
Outstanding
Performance.
Wonderful! Thank you, ZT.
Flute sound always reminds me 94.5 KBAY play christmas music until December 25, 2016 at 5:00 PM.
Le deuxième mouvement me fait tellement penser à Bruckner !
Anyone else see (and hear) Stravinsky's Symphony in C leaping off the first page?
no
@@alandouglas4959 Rotfl. Even the orchestration of woodwinds - bassoon and flute doubling at the second octave - apart from similar thematic stock. The broken thirds in the strings even the choice of instruments. Its pretty glaring after knowing the Stravinsky well before hearing this. Stravinsky said that Tchaikovsky was "the most Russian of all of us". He was called neo-classical for a reason.
For me only Svetlanov can pull this symphony off. The other interpretations I found were too tame and lacking in Russian verve and full-blooded passion.
How about Thomas Tilson and the Boston symphony?
どうしても4-6番をきいてしまいますが、実は1-3番に宝石が散りばめられていますよね！
I love Tchaikovsky, Dvorak and Holst much more than Bach, Beethoven and Handel , RIP all ❤ ...
0:05
1:24/7:19
2:54
3:11
3:38
6:51
8:52
15:34
18:53-19:15
21:36
27:37
32:21
38:35
I'll not say I did not like the piece. But I waited for something more tragic. The Second Movement says "Land of Desolation, Land of Mists". I did not feel any desolation. I felt like walking through some snowy Meadow and building a snowman.
15:34
Eargasm moment for sure!
26 years old. Wow
This isn’t that old
Прекрасный дирижер.
Ага)
Светланов - Начальник русской музыки - Большой Босс!
1:09
4:51
14:35
15:35
17:18
24:32
32:29
LOL I just saw this today, hope your audition went well :D
@@zilezhu3887 thanks. 😭😭. Have you gone?
@@kara4135 yep! i went thursday
Still here in 2021! Best wishes for all 🎄🎄☃️☃️🎄🎄🙋🏻♀️🙋🏻♀️💝💝🎁🎁
18:20 sounds almost like Kylo Ren's theme!!!
You mean Kylo Ren's theme sounds kinda like this?...
@@jacoblehrer4198 when the horns play these 4 notes, I feel the same mood, which reminds me of Ren's 5 notes.
@@igveri I am just poking fun at the fact that this was written far before Ren's Theme haha
@@jacoblehrer4198 good! Tchaikovsky the great master of all time! today he would certainly be an excellent film musician
John Williams borrowed more than once from Tchaikovsky tbh... the Han & Leia love theme is very similar to the main theme from the first movement of his violin concerto and “Rey’s Theme” is borrowed from the beginning of this work (albeit in a different key): m.ua-cam.com/video/527Bb9IGZUE/v-deo.html
경북예고 손 ~~
Nice!
Monke like 1st one the most me=Monke
39:27
6:50
2nd movementoo fast.
defenetly. for me too
Tchaikovsky doesn't think so🤔 1/4 = 63
@@ZefiroTornaScores Yes, but what was the time standard then?
I have such a difficultime following these "abbreviated" scores. Would rather see the whole score, then I knowhereveryone is.
What's the point, though; everything not on the screen at any given moment basically has rests. And even then, some resting instruments are still shown.
@@maxgregorycompositions6216 I be a organist. Have conducted from full scores. Too easy to lose ones place when the score is truncated.
No need to do that here. Not saving any paper.
@@robertgift Nah, truncated scores are the way.
@@maxgregorycompositions6216 You wanto savelectronic paper. As a musician I prefereal scores.
@@robertgift As a composer and pianist, I prefer a nice, old-smelling paper score.
No, you prefer wasted paper with lots of empty bars on lol. The first few pages are ok for this, to show all the staves on, and for conductors, but after that, condensed is the way.
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When you look at the formal decisions Tchai makes one sees he was mature and inventive . I hate this old stuff and its backward harmonies and the progressions we've heard a million times . thankgod for Schnittke and Ustvolskaya etc. If I was in the audience the 2nd movement here would be a good place to let my dog from out of my coat and take a big yawn and FART!Onlt the Horn saves the 2nd mov. from really being a bore . how boring is this 2nd mov. I'm amazed that Nikolai Rub and some others didn't realize how stupendous the 1st piano concerto was when the composer played it for them .Maybe they were shocked at how good it was and insanely jealous! The question of courseis why are the 2nd and 3rd piano concerti so disinteresting andI think there is a smaller piano concertante piece too thatis insipid that cello with orchestra piece -never cared for it or the Serenade Melancolique . Doesn't matter it will always be more fun than what Arensky tcherepnin and so many others left us. te Scriabin piano concerto ? Why did Richter even bother . He sees what is blind to da rest of us . Heifets recorded Conus ! Well the libraries purchased it I'm sure back then ! This Russian music is too sentimental too long ago just like Rach -We don't need it our sensibilities in this century are moved quite beyond it ! Hooray for Gidon Kremer and his triumphant sponsorship of New and Needed Voices !!!
Pfffftttt! Stop whining. If you don't like Tchaikovsky's 1st symphony, don't ever listen to it again.
El segundo movimiento en mi opinión el más hermoso del romanticismo y de toda las sinfonías, sientes que después de la destrucción llegas a eso que los religiosos llaman el paraíso
13:28
32:21
39:48