I'm a big fan of Rachmaninoff, after knowing that Tchaikovsky was someone that he admired I decided to discover even more the music of tchaikovsky... Now I have no doubts why he admired Peter! And it's lovely to find similarity between the opening of this symphony and the Rach 1st piano Concerto! :D wñ
@@alanpotter8680 vladigerov is very sophisticated Bc his pianistic qualities are not that great, but his themes are wonderful, I would suggest kabalevsky
Until today the only Tchaikovsky work I knew independently, I mean beyond the most well known works like Sleeping Beauty and Swan Lake was Fugue, 'little' in G Minor. Turns out it was of course Bach, not Tchaikovsky but it was the most emotionally stirring and contemplative piece I had ever heard. mirrored, in my opinion by these masterpieces. So I suggest that piece to anyone who like's Tchaikovsky's work. Fugue, little in G minor...does anyone know it?
Indeed, the first movement especially is full of 'subjective' rhythm rather than 'objective'/obvious pulsatile rhythm-i.e., the prevailing rhythm is displaced from the pulses which themselves are largely either not apparent or missing entirely. Just how imagine how hard it is for the conductor to beat triple meter while nothing much that comes back is very solidly on the beat-ever. The result is a kind of prevailing rhythmic disjunctiveness that leaves the conductor to cue endless off-beat entrances and 'reactions' to actions that themselves are often MIA. Even for Tchaikovsky this symphony is a rather big, long 'brood.' When the finale ends I feel like cheering-but I don't really know for what, other than there was an exciting ending at least. The finale leaves the audience with 'the big, cheer-raising finish' but it seems almost artificially induced. Overall, in this symphony Tchaikovsky seems long-winded for himself, though short-winded for, say, Mahler. In some ways, it almost seems as if the ENTIRE symphony were a dreamscape but one lacking sufficient points of reference that the story inside the dream is at all discernible in its details. While the entire work is heavily thematic and gestural, I can't say that I love any of its melodies; the prevailing textures are too fragmented and searchingly modulatory to have that kind of effect, but they are what predominate. The Oboe solo in the Second Movement is duly 'folk-like' but oddly constructed, as if the composer forgot that Oboists really SHOULD be allowed to breathe-although a good Oboist will breath and phrase the solo quite acceptably-amid a fairly steady but bland stream of eighth notes. All in all, I feel like this symphony blasts me, relentlessly tortures me with seemingly endless and repetitious rhythm, and leaves me scratching my head after listening to it at length but not really comprehending its point…as if Tchaikovsky-and as he also did in the "Pathetique"-has depicted a very detailed program for the entire symphony but only revealed its barest overall meaning to the audience. Maybe some audience members can 'emote' the entire program from the notes, but I do better with a greater mix of musical denotation with my connotation if a work's program is to be kept from me. Were I to compare this work to that of other composers, I would say it has the lengthy indirectness of much of Berlioz-who can also evoke undifferentiated andscapes that we don't quite relate to, or rouse us excitingly with Brass-blaster finales and Strings pushed to their registral and sonic limits, but even SYMPHONY FANTASTIQUE imparts a few more hummable tunes than does the Fourth. Whereas Mahler made whole planetary landscapes out of gestural clichés, titanic effects, and all the colors of the universe, Tchaikovsky in this piece seems to paint with a more limited pallete that just doesn't rouse the same depth and spectrum of emotion in me. In fact, I feel strangely and emotionally FORCED by this music into experiencing someone ELSE'S neuroses which I somehow just don't share, and can't particularly relate to. It's almost as if Tchaikovsky were reaching for a kind of impressionism with this music, but a supremely introverted sort of impressionism meant more for himself than for his audience. In some ways, it strikes me as the symphonic equivalent of a film score, only with the film removed. As such, I find the aesthetic hard to resonate with personally because it's seemingly less meant for me and more meant as a public display or confession for Tchaikovsky himself. For such confessions to be interesting, they would SEEM to have to be 'juicy' but this one mostly just proves wearying. For its conception as a groundbreaking work of originality, I give this symphony an 'A.' For not interesting me from the outset and for losing me many times along the way, I give it an 'F' (minor, if that would 'help'). To the conductors and orchestras that manage fine performances of this work, I give them mental medals of honor for possessing the patience of saints and the endurance of martyrs.
@@ChipsAplentyBand Haha and you are...? Just a random dude speaking shit about a great composer... or how many symphonies have you written to criticize? Pobre hp.
@@julianherrera5666 Yup, I must be just a random dude who hasn't a real CLUE about music at all. But remember that we're talking about how a work of art affects us individually here, not about the laws of physics which, like a certain song's lyric says about Cupid, 'rule(s) us all.' I don't mind if, while I like strawberry ice cream, you or someone else prefers vanilla or chocolate instead. That's OK with ME at least. And there are many other works of Tchaikovsky that I adore. Cheers-D. C., D.M.A.
Seems like our situations are similar, I am currently 16 and I'm not the biggest fan of it as it gets somewhat ... unpleasant to listen to after a while (I much prefer 4th movement), but hopefully I will grow to enjoy it in the future.
@@AndreyRubtsovRU There’s nothing wrong with having a “basic” finale. Sure the thematic development isn’t as extensive as the first, but boy isnt it an exciting ending? Even if it’s supposedly vulgar or noisy, I think it’s a great way to balance out the scope of the first movement, and it definitely gets the audience to cheer and clap at the end ;)
After graduating from Cincinnati Junior strings and entering Cincinnati youth Symphony, my very first ever rehearsal in the latter was sight reading the beginning of the first movement of this symphony. I had no clue how to read 9/8, and I was in the second violins where we had eighth note accompaniments on beats 2 and 5. Didn't understand how to read it or follow the conductor's beat. Didn't even understand the concept that 9/8 was three big beats divided into three small beats each. Obviously others understood how to read this stuff but boy was I lost. One of the steepest learning curves of my life.
As half greek half bulgarian, I'm used to weird tempos like 9/8 or 11/16..Some of Vladigerov's music is heavily influenced by the Bulgarian folk tradition in music and can be tricky to play.
Just came back from my first rehearsal sight reading this piece, and it is comforting to know that I am not the only one completely lost in this piece 😄 It is beautiful though!
1. Pēteris Čaikovskis. 4. simfonija f moll, 1. daļa, ievads. 00:00:00 2. Pēteris Čaikovskis. 4. simfonija f moll, 1. daļa, galvenā partija. 1:13 3. Pēteris Čaikovskis. 4. simfonija f moll, 1. daļa, blakus partija. 5:03 4. Pēteris Čaikovskis. 4. simfonija f moll, 2. daļa, pamattēma. 18:14 5. Pēteris Čaikovskis. 4. simfonija f moll, 3. daļa, skerco. 27:53 6. Pēteris Čaikovskis. 4. simfonija f moll, 3. daļa, maršs. 30:16 7. Pēteris Čaikovskis. 4. simfonija f moll, 4. daļa, 1. tēma. 33:26
@@ThePepper67 Actually, although I didn't write a symphony right away, I've only written a handful of pieces before finishing my first symphony. It might not be a masterpiece like any Tchaikovsky symphony, but it's a start. Plus, Tchaikovsky had only written about 12 published works before his first symphony (although plenty of composers put of their first symphony til much later in life, like Brahms and Bruckner).
It's not that difficult, especially when you have a natural talent for it and you put the dedication and hard work into it. I've completed one symphony and that took me roughly nine years to get it to a decent stopping point! For me, it's just how my brain is wired (although a lot of other stuff that most people take for granted I usually struggle with, as did a lot of composers, so it's a trade off).
Pjotr Iljics Csajkovszkij:4.f-moll Szimfónia Op.36 1.Andante sostenuto - Moderato con anima - Moderato assai, quasi Andante - Allegro vivo 00:00 2.Andantino in modo di canzona 18:15 3.Scherzo:Pizzicato ostinato - Allegro 27:54 4.Finálé:Allegro con fouco 33:27 Szovjet Állami Rádió és Televízió Szimfonikus Zenekara Vezényel:Gennagyij Rozsgyesztvenszkij
Absolutely. And I imagine conducting it isn't easy either, it's so hard to keep the beat. I would guess many conductors follow the orchestra rather than lead it.
Listening to my favourite symphony without knowing the orchestra and wondering, who might be the director of this wonderfull interpretation with its superb wind-soloist... and: ah!! Rozhdestvensky!! Must be him. And the 4th seems to be the mother of all russian symphonic music after and before
The second movement of this piece inspired me to play the solo part as a cellist. The first and fourth movements intrigued me as greatest musical compositions for the symphonic masterpiece.
24:24 Score error 1 (Mvt. II): What looks like measure 310 is actually 210. This extra +100 added to the measure numbers affects the rest of the movement.
Until today the only Tchaikovsky work I knew independently, I mean beyond the most well known works like Sleeping Beauty and Swan Lake was Fugue, 'little' in G Minor. Turns out it was of course Bach, not Tchaikovsky but it was the most emotionally stirring and contemplative piece I had ever heard. Mirrored, in my opinion by these masterpieces. So I suggest that piece to anyone who like's Tchaikovsky's work. Fugue, little in G minor...does anyone know it?
The symphony is a spectacular masterpiece, usual brilliance of Tchaikovsky, but the fourth movement is really one of the most genius grand finales of symphonies that exist.
@@SteambieGrimbley9110 El esquema estructural de un movimiento fácil y directo para el final es algo que Tchaikovsky usa en otras obras como el segundo y tercer cuarteto para cuerdas. En estas obras un movimiento o dos son los más complejos (primer movimiento en la cuarta sinfonia, tercer movimiento en el cuarteto número 2 y primer y tercer movimientos en el cuarteto número 3). Este esquema llama la atención porque no es simétrico (se esperaría un movimiento final tan complejo como el primero pero Tchaikovsky no hace eso). Creo que Tchaikovsky sigue ese esquema en parte porque ya existía esa tradición (Schumann por ejemplo) y en parte porque Tchaikovsky es un compositor que tiene piedad del oyente, como poniéndose en su lugar y por tanto no se plantea hacer una sinfonía con todos los movimientos complejos requiriendo mucha atención por parte del oyente (como si hace Bruckner).
The year 1877 and early 1878 marked a peak of Tchaikovsky's creativity. This symphony, Eugene Onegin and the violin concert were composed in the interval of 1 year.
Absolutely brilliant. I didn't think much of this symphony at first, but I hadn't even listened to it properly, now that I got to the end, i would undoubtedly say that this is a masterpiece.
Sandro Nebieridze Apparently, Tchaikovsky hated this piece. Not saying that this is a bad piece, but I could see why he’d think that way. The way this symphony is written does have some flaws.
@@littlewishy6432 He may have also hated it because of the mental situation he was in at the time. Maybe because he didnt like the association it had, or because he felt that it didn't get the feeling he wanted across. I dont actually know too much about him and... don't have any background in music, i just know he was having some form of identity crisis and marriage issues when he composed this. In all honesty i feel extremely intimidated reading these comments and having little understanding of what people mean, but I enjoy this nonetheless. You don't need to be an expert at something to feel justified in appreciating it
TSYO Cello excerpts 2020/2021 2:33 Mvt1: twelve before rehearsal C to nine after rehearsal C 5:21 Mvt 1: eight before rehearsal F to rehearsal F 18:54 Mvt 2: twenty-one before rehearsal A to five after rehearsal A
Thanks for the post! I love to see how such miraculous compositions were written by the greatest composer of all time. This symphony along with the 5th and 6th make up Tchaikovsky's monumental trilogy of man's struggle against destiny. The first movement: a heated dialog between man and forces of providence. The second movement: man's lamentation and nostalgic redemption. Third movement: man's anxiety and anticipation. Finale: the triumph of fate against man's relentless struggle.
Esta sinfonia es muy hermosa , refleja un lado de Tchaikovsky que muchos no conocíamos , un lado más tranquilo y a la vez estupendo . Que Viva Tchaikovsky . Que VIVA LA MÙSICA CLÁSICA , y no esas basuras de hoy en día cómo el Reggaeton, el Trap , la Metallica , el pop , etc .... Esto es una obra de arte ... Y mucho más ...
Jajaja tranquilo hermano, puede que algunas canciones sean una basura como el reggeton pero hay otros artistas que valen la pena, tal vez no por la melodía sino por la letra de la canción también es arte. ;')
36:28 Score error 2 (Mvt. IV. Finale): Measure 111: Bassoons have the same parts as the oboes and clarinets. This error has also taken place in both of the newest editions of the bassoons’ parts.
Like so many great masterpieces the first movement has, despite its tight logic, an improvisational quality--like the composer just tossed it off without much thought. Of course, this is not the case by any means, but it creates a beautiful illusion.
По-моему эталонное исполнение. Гибкое, меланхолическое, до глубины души пронимающее тонкими эмоциональными модуляциями и изысканной фразировкой. А кому-то, пишут, скучно. Странные люди :)
Hey guys! At 30:35 you can almost hear the piccolo player crying.
poor fingers
I'm also a piccolist so you're right. :D
and the second violins in the back lol. weaklings.
Years of studying for a few seconds of hell.
InstaBlaster
33:37 that one radio bit before Pink Floyd's Wish You Were Here starts
I'm a big fan of Rachmaninoff, after knowing that Tchaikovsky was someone that he admired I decided to discover even more the music of tchaikovsky... Now I have no doubts why he admired Peter! And it's lovely to find similarity between the opening of this symphony and the Rach 1st piano Concerto! :D wñ
If you haven't already, I suggest check out Vladigerov's concertos.
interested to find my stories the same!
@@alanpotter8680 vladigerov is very sophisticated Bc his pianistic qualities are not that great, but his themes are wonderful, I would suggest kabalevsky
Same! Went from Rachmaninoff to finding Tchaikovsky via the trio elegiaque he wrote after Tchaikovsky died
Until today the only Tchaikovsky work I knew independently, I mean beyond the most well known works like Sleeping Beauty and Swan Lake was Fugue, 'little' in G Minor. Turns out it was of course Bach, not Tchaikovsky but it was the most emotionally stirring and contemplative piece I had ever heard. mirrored, in my opinion by these masterpieces. So I suggest that piece to anyone who like's Tchaikovsky's work. Fugue, little in G minor...does anyone know it?
Это одна из моих самых любимых симфоний.
Conductor excerpt 00:00 - 42:02
bruh
wow quirky
my brain dies whenever i try to count while playing this
ailaviu
Indeed, the first movement especially is full of 'subjective' rhythm rather than 'objective'/obvious pulsatile rhythm-i.e., the prevailing rhythm is displaced from the pulses which themselves are largely either not apparent or missing entirely. Just how imagine how hard it is for the conductor to beat triple meter while nothing much that comes back is very solidly on the beat-ever. The result is a kind of prevailing rhythmic disjunctiveness that leaves the conductor to cue endless off-beat entrances and 'reactions' to actions that themselves are often MIA.
Even for Tchaikovsky this symphony is a rather big, long 'brood.' When the finale ends I feel like cheering-but I don't really know for what, other than there was an exciting ending at least. The finale leaves the audience with 'the big, cheer-raising finish' but it seems almost artificially induced. Overall, in this symphony Tchaikovsky seems long-winded for himself, though short-winded for, say, Mahler. In some ways, it almost seems as if the ENTIRE symphony were a dreamscape but one lacking sufficient points of reference that the story inside the dream is at all discernible in its details.
While the entire work is heavily thematic and gestural, I can't say that I love any of its melodies; the prevailing textures are too fragmented and searchingly modulatory to have that kind of effect, but they are what predominate. The Oboe solo in the Second Movement is duly 'folk-like' but oddly constructed, as if the composer forgot that Oboists really SHOULD be allowed to breathe-although a good Oboist will breath and phrase the solo quite acceptably-amid a fairly steady but bland stream of eighth notes.
All in all, I feel like this symphony blasts me, relentlessly tortures me with seemingly endless and repetitious rhythm, and leaves me scratching my head after listening to it at length but not really comprehending its point…as if Tchaikovsky-and as he also did in the "Pathetique"-has depicted a very detailed program for the entire symphony but only revealed its barest overall meaning to the audience. Maybe some audience members can 'emote' the entire program from the notes, but I do better with a greater mix of musical denotation with my connotation if a work's program is to be kept from me.
Were I to compare this work to that of other composers, I would say it has the lengthy indirectness of much of Berlioz-who can also evoke undifferentiated andscapes that we don't quite relate to, or rouse us excitingly with Brass-blaster finales and Strings pushed to their registral and sonic limits, but even SYMPHONY FANTASTIQUE imparts a few more hummable tunes than does the Fourth. Whereas Mahler made whole planetary landscapes out of gestural clichés, titanic effects, and all the colors of the universe, Tchaikovsky in this piece seems to paint with a more limited pallete that just doesn't rouse the same depth and spectrum of emotion in me. In fact, I feel strangely and emotionally FORCED by this music into experiencing someone ELSE'S neuroses which I somehow just don't share, and can't particularly relate to. It's almost as if Tchaikovsky were reaching for a kind of impressionism with this music, but a supremely introverted sort of impressionism meant more for himself than for his audience. In some ways, it strikes me as the symphonic equivalent of a film score, only with the film removed. As such, I find the aesthetic hard to resonate with personally because it's seemingly less meant for me and more meant as a public display or confession for Tchaikovsky himself. For such confessions to be interesting, they would SEEM to have to be 'juicy' but this one mostly just proves wearying.
For its conception as a groundbreaking work of originality, I give this symphony an 'A.' For not interesting me from the outset and for losing me many times along the way, I give it an 'F' (minor, if that would 'help'). To the conductors and orchestras that manage fine performances of this work, I give them mental medals of honor for possessing the patience of saints and the endurance of martyrs.
@@ChipsAplentyBand Haha and you are...? Just a random dude speaking shit about a great composer... or how many symphonies have you written to criticize? Pobre hp.
@@julianherrera5666 Yup, I must be just a random dude who hasn't a real CLUE about music at all. But remember that we're talking about how a work of art affects us individually here, not about the laws of physics which, like a certain song's lyric says about Cupid, 'rule(s) us all.' I don't mind if, while I like strawberry ice cream, you or someone else prefers vanilla or chocolate instead. That's OK with ME at least. And there are many other works of Tchaikovsky that I adore. Cheers-D. C., D.M.A.
@@ChipsAplentyBand Ok mi amigo gringo.
The technical and theoretical aspect of this music is so deep and expressive. One of Tchaikovsky’s best works in my opinion.
The first movement might be the best masterpiece ever created.
When I was 16 I did not like it. Now, if I had the choice between this and the one from the 6th, I'd choose this one. I love it.
Seems like our situations are similar, I am currently 16 and I'm not the biggest fan of it as it gets somewhat ... unpleasant to listen to after a while (I much prefer 4th movement), but hopefully I will grow to enjoy it in the future.
This. The opening phrase is so heroic
It'll get to you eventually. Prefer it to number 6 now.
I hated this work at 16 too. Now at 72 I merely dislike it. The 5th is the one for me. But Romeo and Juliet beats all the Symphonies.
Movements I and IV are among the most brilliant compositions in the symphonic repertoire.
The scherzo is my favourite movement, but i agree
it's a weird comment. first one is very complex and amazing. finale is just... meh. very basic. even 2nd one is more inspired.
@@AndreyRubtsovRU There’s nothing wrong with having a “basic” finale. Sure the thematic development isn’t as extensive as the first, but boy isnt it an exciting ending? Even if it’s supposedly vulgar or noisy, I think it’s a great way to balance out the scope of the first movement, and it definitely gets the audience to cheer and clap at the end ;)
the demonic waltz in the 1st movement gives me chills
@@AndreyRubtsovRU I think so. The second one is the most inspired
In my mind this is the crazy-heroic-pizzicato symphony
Try Bruckner 5
After graduating from Cincinnati Junior strings and entering Cincinnati youth Symphony, my very first ever rehearsal in the latter was sight reading the beginning of the first movement of this symphony. I had no clue how to read 9/8, and I was in the second violins where we had eighth note accompaniments on beats 2 and 5. Didn't understand how to read it or follow the conductor's beat. Didn't even understand the concept that 9/8 was three big beats divided into three small beats each. Obviously others understood how to read this stuff but boy was I lost. One of the steepest learning curves of my life.
oof
As half greek half bulgarian, I'm used to weird tempos like 9/8 or 11/16..Some of Vladigerov's music is heavily influenced by the Bulgarian folk tradition in music and can be tricky to play.
Just came back from my first rehearsal sight reading this piece, and it is comforting to know that I am not the only one completely lost in this piece 😄 It is beautiful though!
I love how you can hear the difference of dynamics even when they use pizzicato
1. Pēteris Čaikovskis. 4. simfonija f moll, 1. daļa, ievads. 00:00:00
2. Pēteris Čaikovskis. 4. simfonija f moll, 1. daļa, galvenā partija. 1:13
3. Pēteris Čaikovskis. 4. simfonija f moll, 1. daļa, blakus partija. 5:03
4. Pēteris Čaikovskis. 4. simfonija f moll, 2. daļa, pamattēma. 18:14
5. Pēteris Čaikovskis. 4. simfonija f moll, 3. daļa, skerco. 27:53
6. Pēteris Čaikovskis. 4. simfonija f moll, 3. daļa, maršs. 30:16
7. Pēteris Čaikovskis. 4. simfonija f moll, 4. daļa, 1. tēma. 33:26
playing this in orchestra! (the entire thing!)
I sit directly in front of the low brass...it is quite the experience!
Is your high school? orchestra capable of playing this?
@@robertgift it was a college orchestra!
Same
I’m doing this in high school with a youth orchestra outside of school and it’s super ambitious but I love the piece
MT Haygood same
how the crap does anyone write a symphony? all those instruments, in different keys, different clefs. it's like trying to play 12 dimension chess.
They are a different breed.
Like anything, you have to start very simple and then get more complex. Nobody starts out writing something like this.
@@ThePepper67 Actually, although I didn't write a symphony right away, I've only written a handful of pieces before finishing my first symphony. It might not be a masterpiece like any Tchaikovsky symphony, but it's a start. Plus, Tchaikovsky had only written about 12 published works before his first symphony (although plenty of composers put of their first symphony til much later in life, like Brahms and Bruckner).
It's not that difficult, especially when you have a natural talent for it and you put the dedication and hard work into it. I've completed one symphony and that took me roughly nine years to get it to a decent stopping point! For me, it's just how my brain is wired (although a lot of other stuff that most people take for granted I usually struggle with, as did a lot of composers, so it's a trade off).
@@micahking4040 Yes. Yes we are.
lol I'm screwed
Apart from being screwed (don't wish to know about it) Do you like it?
@@shin-i-chikozima imagine being this much of a hikikomori
Pjotr Iljics Csajkovszkij:4.f-moll Szimfónia Op.36
1.Andante sostenuto - Moderato con anima - Moderato assai, quasi Andante - Allegro vivo 00:00
2.Andantino in modo di canzona 18:15
3.Scherzo:Pizzicato ostinato - Allegro 27:54
4.Finálé:Allegro con fouco 33:27
Szovjet Állami Rádió és Televízió Szimfonikus Zenekara
Vezényel:Gennagyij Rozsgyesztvenszkij
thank you!
That first movement is a killer to play! Great music, though...
Absolutely. And I imagine conducting it isn't easy either, it's so hard to keep the beat. I would guess many conductors follow the orchestra rather than lead it.
This is not the best recording of this beautiful epic masterpiece but SO glad to see the sheet music regardless!
5:03 - one of the most beautiful theme have I ever head
One of the best versions of Tchaik 4. The brass is powerful
Its a little slower tempo than I'm used to, but I love it! It makes it even more intense and lyrical. beautiful performance.
Don't get used to faster tempi.
This is fast for me
ITempi are great apart from the 3rd movt. which could be faster. Whom have you heard?
My favorite recording is Chicago with Claudio Abbado.
At 8:09 the 4 equally spaced chords (rest of eighth-eighth note) in the 9/8 measure are magnificent.
that oboe solo *chefs kiss*
Man, this Scherzo
Is CRAZY.G
33:43 so this is where Apashe got his inspo for Uebok from.... I knew I've heard this somewhere!
Listening to my favourite symphony without knowing the orchestra and wondering, who might be the director of this wonderfull interpretation with its superb wind-soloist... and: ah!! Rozhdestvensky!! Must be him. And the 4th seems to be the mother of all russian symphonic music after and before
The second movement of this piece inspired me to play the solo part as a cellist. The first and fourth movements intrigued me as greatest musical compositions for the symphonic masterpiece.
This version is phenomenal.
30:17 (for reference)
Пётр Ильич русский музыкальный Гений!
The coda of the first movement might be one of the most hard-hitting codas of all time.
together with the bruckner 5 finale
24:24 Score error 1 (Mvt. II): What looks like measure 310 is actually 210. This extra +100 added to the measure numbers affects the rest of the movement.
Extract A 1:14
Extract B 3:03
Exctact C 34:38
“Fate” 38:35 - 39:40
Wow!!! almighty
opening.
Until today the only Tchaikovsky work I knew independently, I mean beyond the most well known works like Sleeping Beauty and Swan Lake was Fugue, 'little' in G Minor. Turns out it was of course Bach, not Tchaikovsky but it was the most emotionally stirring and contemplative piece I had ever heard. Mirrored, in my opinion by these masterpieces. So I suggest that piece to anyone who like's Tchaikovsky's work. Fugue, little in G minor...does anyone know it?
38:35
40:49
5:40 cello excerpt
Scary timpani excerpt intensifies
Where is page 59?
I was confused about that as well... it's just *not there*
The Chicago/Abbado recording is much preferable to this. 🤔
The symphony is a spectacular masterpiece, usual brilliance of Tchaikovsky, but the fourth movement is really one of the most genius grand finales of symphonies that exist.
It's curious. It has always seemed to me the worst movement with only a few flashes of genius but of inferior quality to the other movements.
Yes. But only till the moment when you have to play it😂 I died trying to play the viola part in the original tempo
@@SteambieGrimbley9110 El esquema estructural de un movimiento fácil y directo para el final es algo que Tchaikovsky usa en otras obras como el segundo y tercer cuarteto para cuerdas. En estas obras un movimiento o dos son los más complejos (primer movimiento en la cuarta sinfonia, tercer movimiento en el cuarteto número 2 y primer y tercer movimientos en el cuarteto número 3). Este esquema llama la atención porque no es simétrico (se esperaría un movimiento final tan complejo como el primero pero Tchaikovsky no hace eso). Creo que Tchaikovsky sigue ese esquema en parte porque ya existía esa tradición (Schumann por ejemplo) y en parte porque Tchaikovsky es un compositor que tiene piedad del oyente, como poniéndose en su lugar y por tanto no se plantea hacer una sinfonía con todos los movimientos complejos requiriendo mucha atención por parte del oyente (como si hace Bruckner).
1часть
г.п 1:14
1п.п 4:53
2п.п 6:15
з.п 7:35
гп реприза 12:16
гп кода 17:43
2 часть
осн 18:15
сер 22:17
3 часть
осн 27:54
1т трио 29:39
2т трио 30:16
кода 32:38
4 часть
гп 33:27
пп 33:41
пп разраб 35:00
пп реприз 37:29
1 часть
Разработка 8:50
19:33 Обожаю этот отрывок! 😍
We have like minds friend
3:03-3:32 2019 AYS cello excerpt #2
00:16 and 38:57
32:57 and 40:35
27:54 29:35 12:48
Thank you, ZTS, for sharing this recording and the score and timing the score pages. I have difficulty following these abbreviated scores.
Thanks for the upload!!
*puts ad half a second before finale* bruuuh
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@@IvoryMelodies86 lol that scam ad we get everytime
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16:48 Best part
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Wow 😍 love a at first hear
Hey no one is gonna talk about the second movement ?!
love the second movement! so perfect
the entire work is a true masterpiece.
It comes between the first & third.
Probably, my favourite movement in my favourite symphony of Chaikovskiy.
It’s my favorite ♥️
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The year 1877 and early 1878 marked a peak of Tchaikovsky's creativity. This symphony, Eugene Onegin and the violin concert were composed in the interval of 1 year.
One of my favorites from my high school teacher
Absolutely brilliant. I didn't think much of this symphony at first, but I hadn't even listened to it properly, now that I got to the end, i would undoubtedly say that this is a masterpiece.
Восхищен Вашим ответом, уважаемый Сандро! Спасибо!
К сожалению, Четвертую часто недооценивают. Но если именно ВСЛУШАТЬСЯ...
Sandro Nebieridze Apparently, Tchaikovsky hated this piece. Not saying that this is a bad piece, but I could see why he’d think that way. The way this symphony is written does have some flaws.
@@littlewishy6432 He may have also hated it because of the mental situation he was in at the time. Maybe because he didnt like the association it had, or because he felt that it didn't get the feeling he wanted across. I dont actually know too much about him and... don't have any background in music, i just know he was having some form of identity crisis and marriage issues when he composed this. In all honesty i feel extremely intimidated reading these comments and having little understanding of what people mean, but I enjoy this nonetheless. You don't need to be an expert at something to feel justified in appreciating it
janeway sent me here........
Captain Janeway of the Federation starship USS Voyager?
Coffee, black.... Oh and she probably sent you to Mahler too, no doubt. Excellent counterpoint.
The section at 35:42 is otherworldly
24:50 "it's noon!"
clocks doesn't give a fuck if you're recording an absolute masterpiece of humanity or not, that's your problem.
Best opening to a symphony ever. I throughly enjoy the opening to Brahms symphony no. 1 also.
3:02 cello excerpt
TSYO Cello excerpts 2020/2021
2:33 Mvt1: twelve before rehearsal C to nine after rehearsal C
5:21 Mvt 1: eight before rehearsal F to rehearsal F
18:54 Mvt 2: twenty-one before rehearsal A to five after rehearsal A
29:38 The Meno Mosso section sounds somewhat ancient and medieval... I love it!
Чайковский, cada vez que escucho una obra suya me ayudas a seguir viviendo
Thank you, ZT, for sharing these wonderful compositions and the scores. Enables us to hear things we missed.
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gtcys audition excerpt #1: 7:22
playing mvmts 2-4 for my all state orchestra and i hope i do well lol so that i dont have a mental breakdown during the concert
I had the honor of being able to listen to this live a few weeks ago, its completely different in person.
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Magnífica.
Thanks for the post! I love to see how such miraculous compositions were written by the greatest composer of all time.
This symphony along with the 5th and 6th make up Tchaikovsky's monumental trilogy of man's struggle against destiny.
The first movement: a heated dialog between man and forces of providence.
The second movement: man's lamentation and nostalgic redemption.
Third movement: man's anxiety and anticipation.
Finale: the triumph of fate against man's relentless struggle.
♥️♥️♥️ Perfect
Absolutely amazing every time.
Indeed.
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7:23 PYAO 2020-21 String Seating Excerpts
3:03 PYO 2022-23 Audition Excerpts
Esta sinfonia es muy hermosa , refleja un lado de Tchaikovsky que muchos no conocíamos , un lado más tranquilo y a la vez estupendo . Que Viva Tchaikovsky . Que VIVA LA MÙSICA CLÁSICA , y no esas basuras de hoy en día cómo el Reggaeton, el Trap , la Metallica , el pop , etc ....
Esto es una obra de arte ... Y mucho más ...
Jajaja tranquilo hermano, puede que algunas canciones sean una basura como el reggeton pero hay otros artistas que valen la pena, tal vez no por la melodía sino por la letra de la canción también es arte. ;')
@@toxicbld_Subsмузыка это в первую очередь музыка
22:16 goosebumps
The genius composer evokes by voice of God, and the work which he creates certainly flicks the heartstrings in the inside depth of human soul.
If you know how he was struggling at this point in his life you'll see he called on some dark stuff.
小島信一 Tchaikovsky was not a believer and he was homosexual, so I doubt your tolerant (😂) god accepts him.
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36:28 Score error 2 (Mvt. IV. Finale): Measure 111: Bassoons have the same parts as the oboes and clarinets. This error has also taken place in both of the newest editions of the bassoons’ parts.
Невероятные пляски флейты в начале третьей части так душевны... У меня пропалают слова. У Чайковского была чистейшая душа
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Thank you, ZT, for sharing these scores withe performances. But I have difficulty reading condensed scores.
3:05 seating audition reference
do you happen to live in philly
@@jimiyu. yep, audition for philadelphia sinfonia
@@ethanhcomposer same here lmao
amazing!!!
God damn u and your brilliant IV movement tchaikovsky
I did NOT* skip to the fourth movement...........
Like so many great masterpieces the first movement has, despite its tight logic, an improvisational quality--like the composer just tossed it off without much thought. Of course, this is not the case by any means, but it creates a beautiful illusion.
По-моему эталонное исполнение. Гибкое, меланхолическое, до глубины души пронимающее тонкими эмоциональными модуляциями и изысканной фразировкой. А кому-то, пишут, скучно. Странные люди :)
Iconic
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