Great Craftsmanship!!!. Looks Even Neater and Cleaner than before. You shouldn't have any Temperature problems, but testing will tell. Just in Time for Sandy!
Real nice job! My grandfather buried his muffler in a bed of rocks and sand just outside of the generator shed. The only thing you could see was the exhaust pipe going straigtht down into the dirt. The gases came back up out of the ground via a bed of rocks/gravel. It was very quiet. You can also heat water with the exhaust using a water heater for a muffler. Rich
I just came across this thread. Sorry im late to the shindig. You have some good ideas here, however i think your temperature is a bit too high. I would exit the exhaust straight out the back and mount your muffler outside the box. Basically your heating up a giant heat sink in the box. Its also beeen my observation that most generator noise is mechanical and not related to the exhaust. Just my $0.02 worth.
I like all your ideas. I have a Coleman 5000 that sure could use to be quieter. Might try your set up.Also I'm going to consider a Honda as they are alot quieter. Thanks for sharing this...
I love the metal lining inside the shed, it is a great heat shield and looks great too. This is the all around best set up I have seen so far on UA-cam. Excellent job. You should give a verbal summary as you're showing all aspects of what you did. I think people would really enjoy it and it would probably answer any remaining questions they may have. You did an absolutely great job on this. Thanks for sharing.
+notsosilentmajority1 Thank you for the comment. Actually the sound on this Video is loud, but in reality its pretty quite. see the Video @ 3:59 , its very quite.
Excellent, Excellent! This is exactly what I want to do with my generator that I just bought. From watching other guys on UA-cam put on automotive mufflers, there was only a two decibel drop in noise. Housing it in an noise insulated compartment is the way to go from what I've seen if one really wants to drop decibel levels... I'm going to do this. Stand by for MY UA-cam video...
Thank you for the video. It is neat to see some of the ideas folks have to solve these simple issues. I thought about putting my genny inside my garage and piping the exhaust outside through the wall. I have been concerned about the noise. Thank you again for sharing this idea.
Consider running the exh. tube above your house eve. It will reduce your noise level. We did it in the military, Sound travels up up up, so you do not hear it on the ground as bad. Exh. fumes go up with the noise.
Despite the concerns that others have brought up, I am sure it works well to have a weather proof place to store your generator when it is not in use. Also, for how infrequently one needs a generator, the enclosure probably suits the purpose fine. I am just curious, has your neighbor complained that the engine exhaust is directed into their yard?
Thanks for the inspiration. I just ordered a horizontal shed, 1340 CFM attic vent fan and a 3 inch duct cap to replicate your project. I've been looking at other generator sheds on UA-cam and see some similarities, and some differences. If you were to do this over, is there anything you'd change?
pretty cool. probably would go with a different muffler setup. That magnaflow looks more like a thrush copy made for performance than to be quiet. But if it's quiet enough in person I'm happy for ya.
Just a thought. A plastic bucket covering the exhaust fan on the inside (On top of the generator) with maybe a 2" all around larger size than the fan (to minimize airflow loss) would work like a muffler baffle, and would knock down the sound coming from the exhaust fan.The sound waves inside the box have a straight shot out without the baffle.
Great job! I'm looking into doing something similar. I think I would make the base larger, to accommodate a fuel supply system. I'm thinking maybe a 100 gal propane tank or something.
I have an old storage container that houses a 6500 gen and is about 50 yards from the home. All enclosed with insulation and drywall and the exhaust runs outside into 2 tractor mufflers that are encased in cinder block and cement and sitting on the back porch the crickets are louder than the gen.
Nice job. Have the same shed from Home Depot. Tried to run it during Sandy with cut out exhaust in the back and only a cut out for intake air. Choked itself out where I had to buy a new air filter. My bad...I did not use any insulation concerned of high heat and fire or melting plastic shed. Do you have a "parts and pieces list" that can be related to the visual and where they can be purchased ? I am handy however need additional detail. Thanks for posting this.
Everything looks nice, but I believe the interior paneling seems much more decorative than effective. Sheet rock or insulation foam would dramatically decrease your volume.
I see a problem with the exhaust modification. The rigid 2" elbow and supporting flex hose brackets are fastened to the shed wall and will stress the weld ans muffler parts that were meant to vibrate with an engine mounted on rubber. Ideally these parts should be supported by a bracket bolted exclusively somewhere on the engine.
Do you now the db difference? I'm thinking of doing something similar for my food truck. I have the 12.5kW powermate and its loud as crap! hoping that 18" muffler quiets it down.
Excellent set-up! I'm still searching for an appropriate generator and have some ideas on how to make an enclosure or purchase a utility box such as the one you used. Is your generator a recoil start or electric start. If it's recoil, how difficult is it to start with the enclosure?
Thanks for sharing. Lots of people on here scared to do shit keep dissing people's projects to avoid doing their own. They'll freeze their ass of in a winter power failure....
Hi Royal, Nice Job on the enclosure. I wanted to inquire about the high temp switches. They look like dryer high limits. Is that what they are I wanted to find something like this also where did you get the temp read out.
Can you explain how you connected the exhaust system to the exchause out put on your generator? How do you do this so that it doesn't fall off and doesn't heat up too much? What is the connection?
I am just curious as to what reflective insulation you're using here. Where did you get the insulation from? I have a very similar setup about 90% done....good job on this.
Daniel Kohler , not sure about the db level, but @ 15’ away you can have a normal conversation with another person. Most sound you hear is the mechanical sound of the engine.
I'm sorry I can't hear over the generator. Maybe add 6 more vents to let............. all the sound out. I'm building a sound box for a 3000 Honda and I plan to use INSULATION Roxyl from home depo. that is fire proof and a sound insulator. I put a ton of it in my music room downstairs.....ROXYL. The basic intent is good but insulation will knock the DB's down alot while fire proofing.
+BRUCE LEE , As I mentioned earlier on other post, For some reason the audio is very loud on this video, but in reality it's very quite. Watch towards end of the video.
dig a hole with an access ramp so you can pull it out to service it...also run a drain pipe to let any surface/groundwater flow to lower area.......the thing about inventions is,you need to have to humility to take the better idea after a bunch of time/money,energy has been expended on your project
Should have used sound-deadening composite panels on the interior of the box instead of the faux stainless steel to deafen the engine noise. Get them in the insulation dept of Lowes or Home Depot. Just don't get them wet.
Arnie Sam, On this video the sound level seems very loud, but in reality it is very quite. Most of the sound is from engine mechanical sound which is bearable.
Hello royal, thanks for the update, Great job, Great video, My buddy and I used most of your design, we haven't got to the muffler yet because of Sandy but we were ready for her, my buddy did lose his power but is up and running, what is the small black intake fan and where did you get it Thanks Al
I bet your home owners insurance co will ok this . Not sure if the cabinet meets UL requirements,,,but maybe it will just melt and not ignite...good luck dude.
Nice effort. Acoustically speaking, tho, the the idea of using thin metal sheeting within the enclosure is ill-advised. What dampens sound is loosely coupled (or not coupled at all) sheer mass. There is a product called "loaded vinyl" or "mass-loaded vinyl" which is heavy > 1lb per sq ft. which is used to reduce coupling of vibrations from a sound source to the outside. Affixing the material loosely to the inside of your enclosure will be much more effective in your results.
If my power went out once a week I might consider a set-up like this,But c'mon I only bring out the genny once every ten years for emergency power. I'll deal with a little noise until the power from Edison comes back on.
why did you point it at your house and a window.I would put a flag like Board on a pole about 2 feet away from the exhaust .Angle it at 45 degrees away from the house.When i was a carpenter we just stood a sheet of plywood up nailed too a 5 ft board ala kickstandand sheilded our side. Sheild that exhaust aiming at your window.
i've thought about doing something like this, only my enclosure would be out of brick, then right beside it bury a metal 55gal drum, then run the exhaust to that drum and maybe weld a baffle inside the drum, much the same way a silencer works on guns, that way the sound waves have to expand in the drum then exit through a small vent tube above ground. This would practically eliminate all noise, or atleast make it sound like a faint hum in the distance.
On a 80deg outside temp, the compartment temp. stabilized at 118deg. I have a compartment overheat auto shutdown switch is incorporated into this project.
Awesome! Great DYI project!!! - I live in PR and Hurricane Maria hit us very hard. I have a PV Solar System and mainly use the generator for a couple hours in the evening to charge the batteries in order to run the house during the night. also want to protect the generator from the rain.
Sound board for sure its good an practical ive seen a good one for 2500...quiet ..made od welded steel..all the beels an whistles but way to much for me if u spend less than 500 buks goood for u anything over a 1k is over kill but all cosmetics an b.s. good wrk for diy😊
First, I would not put a heat producing engine inside of a plastic box even with vents and a fan. Second, the exhaust? Gasses can and will make their way into the house with such a short pipe. I would vent it all the way up to the roof and above to let the wind carry away the fumes...
Hi, the silver lining on the compartment lid is called "Reflectix Insulation"Model # BP48025. and for inside walls I used some leftover "Ceiling tin" Tiles ( Model # V3-AVALON-22PBR) both from home depot. thanks
Nice idea but how much better had you stated with a better generator not of a "tradesman" or "craft" series. I might suggest you spent another $100 (or less) for an "auto" fire extinguisher, the type with a self deploying head as you have fuel, electricity and heat all in a nice little plastic box and no extinguisher in site!
Your work and muffler reflect well on your mechanical abilities. I just have difficulty understanding why the temps are 50 Degrees above the ambient temperature. I think that part is that metal giving off heat in the box, Not sure that the sound/heat tradeoff is worth it. I would change Left Side Grille to a Louvered A/C Grille that you can manually open. A little more sound yes, but I think Temps would Drop 10 Degrees or more. my temps are running 12 Degrees ambient see my video v=3GE_qqRMWN8
N Silva , I did this project 6 years ago and I no longer own this setup, Most of the parts are from Home Depot, ebay ,& Amazon. Don't have PN for it. Sorry and thanks for watching.
On small engines most of the noise is from the engine. I run a gen and pressure washer in an enclosed trailer. I piped both exausts outside the trailer and really can't tell a difference in noise. It really just pipes out the heat and carbon monoxide.
If the intakes and all the grill work are baffled it will be much quieter, but all in all, you did a great job!
Great Craftsmanship!!!. Looks Even Neater and Cleaner than before. You shouldn't have any Temperature problems, but testing will tell. Just in Time for Sandy!
Real nice job!
My grandfather buried his muffler in a bed of rocks and sand just outside of the generator shed. The only thing you could see was the exhaust pipe going straigtht down into the dirt. The gases came back up out of the ground via a bed of rocks/gravel. It was very quiet.
You can also heat water with the exhaust using a water heater for a muffler.
Rich
I just came across this thread. Sorry im late to the shindig. You have some good ideas here, however i think your temperature is a bit too high. I would exit the exhaust straight out the back and mount your muffler outside the box. Basically your heating up a giant heat sink in the box. Its also beeen my observation that most generator noise is mechanical and not related to the exhaust. Just my $0.02 worth.
I like all your ideas. I have a Coleman 5000 that sure could use to be quieter. Might try your set up.Also I'm going to consider a Honda as they are alot quieter. Thanks for sharing this...
I love the metal lining inside the shed, it is a great heat shield and looks great too. This is the all around best set up I have seen so far on UA-cam. Excellent job. You should give a verbal summary as you're showing all aspects of what you did. I think people would really enjoy it and it would probably answer any remaining questions they may have. You did an absolutely great job on this. Thanks for sharing.
+notsosilentmajority1 Thank you for the comment. Actually the sound on this Video is loud, but in reality its pretty quite. see the Video @ 3:59 , its very quite.
or quite quiet!
Awesome use of sound reflecting material on every surface, you definitely don’t want sound to be absorbed....
Excellent, Excellent! This is exactly what I want to do with my generator that I just bought. From watching other guys on UA-cam put on automotive mufflers, there was only a two decibel drop in noise. Housing it in an noise insulated compartment is the way to go from what I've seen if one really wants to drop decibel levels... I'm going to do this. Stand by for MY UA-cam video...
I like the streamer on the vent exhaust. I am thinking of fabricating something like this out of angle-iron and some sheet metal. Nice job.
Looks like some grow room build techniques going into that....Nice job
Outstanding job! Thanks for sharing and for the specifics in the description! Cheers - Luther
Thank you for the video. It is neat to see some of the ideas folks have to solve these simple issues. I thought about putting my genny inside my garage and piping the exhaust outside through the wall. I have been concerned about the noise. Thank you again for sharing this idea.
Consider running the exh. tube above your house eve. It will reduce your noise level. We did it in the military, Sound travels up up up, so you do not hear it on the ground as bad. Exh. fumes go up with the noise.
Wewaswampboy y
That is the American design love it
Despite the concerns that others have brought up, I am sure it works well to have a weather proof place to store your generator when it is not in use. Also, for how infrequently one needs a generator, the enclosure probably suits the purpose fine. I am just curious, has your neighbor complained that the engine exhaust is directed into their yard?
Thanks for the inspiration. I just ordered a horizontal shed, 1340 CFM attic vent fan and a 3 inch duct cap to replicate your project. I've been looking at other generator sheds on UA-cam and see some similarities, and some differences. If you were to do this over, is there anything you'd change?
That's cool I know how loud generators are. that box you made works good it sounds better
I'm thinking that that liner inside is amplifying the sound. You could try something like acoustic tile that would help. Enjoyed the video!
I like it! A good off the shelf solution. Thanks for the post.
best set up yet....nicely done.
pretty cool. probably would go with a different muffler setup. That magnaflow looks more like a thrush copy made for performance than to be quiet. But if it's quiet enough in person I'm happy for ya.
Pretty freakin' brilliant, if you ask me! Well done!
Just a thought. A plastic bucket covering the exhaust fan on the inside (On top of the generator) with maybe a 2" all around larger size than the fan (to minimize airflow loss) would work like a muffler baffle, and would knock down the sound coming from the exhaust fan.The sound waves inside the box have a straight shot out without the baffle.
I really like the production quality of you video.
+Robert Mattison - It recorded on a IPad . Thanks for watching .
It’s still loud
Great job! I'm looking into doing something similar. I think I would make the base larger, to accommodate a fuel supply system. I'm thinking maybe a 100 gal propane tank or something.
I have an old storage container that houses a 6500 gen and is about 50 yards from the home. All enclosed with insulation and drywall and the exhaust runs outside into 2 tractor mufflers that are encased in cinder block and cement and sitting on the back porch the crickets are louder than the gen.
Make a video - it sounds great.
Nice job. Have the same shed from Home Depot. Tried to run it during Sandy with cut out exhaust in the back and only a cut out for intake air. Choked itself out where I had to buy a new air filter. My bad...I did not use any insulation concerned of high heat and fire or melting plastic shed. Do you have a "parts and pieces list" that can be related to the visual and where they can be purchased ? I am handy however need additional detail. Thanks for posting this.
good job buddy nice video
Everything looks nice, but I believe the interior paneling seems much more decorative than effective. Sheet rock or insulation foam would dramatically decrease your volume.
I see a problem with the exhaust modification. The rigid 2" elbow and supporting flex hose brackets are fastened to the shed wall and will stress the weld ans muffler parts that were meant to vibrate with an engine mounted on rubber. Ideally these parts should be supported by a bracket bolted exclusively somewhere on the engine.
Great Shed!
Do you now the db difference? I'm thinking of doing something similar for my food truck. I have the 12.5kW powermate and its loud as crap! hoping that 18" muffler quiets it down.
Excellent set-up! I'm still searching for an appropriate generator and have some ideas on how to make an enclosure or purchase a utility box such as the one you used. Is your generator a recoil start or electric start. If it's recoil, how difficult is it to start with the enclosure?
Thanks for sharing. Lots of people on here scared to do shit keep dissing people's projects to avoid doing their own. They'll freeze their ass of in a winter power failure....
Nice job. You did it right, IMO
Thanks for the ideas.
Hi Royal,
Nice Job on the enclosure. I wanted to inquire about the high temp switches. They look like dryer high limits. Is that what they are I wanted to find something like this also where did you get the temp read out.
Can you explain how you connected the exhaust system to the exchause out put on your generator? How do you do this so that it doesn't fall off and doesn't heat up too much? What is the connection?
You call that quiet? You have some reading up to do on sound and how it moves.
wish you had some db readings for reference,...nice work
The fan pulls the hot air out. His design is fine.
I am just curious as to what reflective insulation you're using here. Where did you get the insulation from? I have a very similar setup about 90% done....good job on this.
What could go wrong, am I right, AM I RIGHT!! ;)
That thing is bad ass! Nice work. Love the magnaflow setup. Curious what the db level is outside the box at say. . . 15'.
Daniel Kohler , not sure about the db level, but @ 15’ away you can have a normal conversation with another person. Most sound you hear is the mechanical sound of the engine.
LOL you put a glasspack on it?
Nice setup
I'll never buy a loud Yamaha. Thanks for posting.
I agree, something like MDF would greatly improve his current setup
Nice shelter -
Did you provide a decibel level for BEFORE and AFTER? Didn't see one.
I'm sorry I can't hear over the generator.
Maybe add 6 more vents to let............. all the sound out.
I'm building a sound box for a 3000 Honda and I plan to use INSULATION Roxyl from home depo. that is fire proof and a sound insulator.
I put a ton of it in my music room downstairs.....ROXYL.
The basic intent is good but insulation will knock the DB's down alot while fire proofing.
+BRUCE LEE , As I mentioned earlier on other post, For some reason the audio is very loud on this video, but in reality it's very quite. Watch towards end of the video.
What is the metallic material lining the walls and where did you get it?
It’s is tin ceiling tiles from HD, but I would’t recommend it, it will rust . Thanks.
nice job
The generator is tied down inside the shed with recoil is facing out. Two-three pulls max to start. Not an a issue. Roy
Bolt some wheels, a steering setup, brakes and a seat and you got yourself a car.
Does the metal exhaust get hot enough to melt plastc?
Oh hell yea if could live with that don't listen to the know I alls great job it's yours be proud
Good Job!!! Way to dump all those fumes into the neighbor's yard!! LoL Otherwise; Great contraption
why dont put it underground or in a small concrete room?
dig a hole with an access ramp so you can pull it out to service it...also run a drain pipe to let any surface/groundwater flow to lower area.......the thing about inventions is,you need to have to humility to take the better idea after a bunch of time/money,energy has been expended on your project
Brilliant. NASA could use you right about now.
Should have used sound-deadening composite panels on the interior of the box instead of the faux stainless steel to deafen the engine noise. Get them in the insulation dept of Lowes or Home Depot. Just don't get them wet.
how much did the noise level drop from outside to when it was inside the small shed?
Arnie Sam, On this video the sound level seems very loud, but in reality it is very quite. Most of the sound is from engine mechanical sound which is bearable.
I like the fact you went inside your house to show how quiet the generator was. Job well done. Question though what kind on installation did you use?
Hello royal, thanks for the update, Great job, Great video, My buddy and I used most of your design, we haven't got to the muffler yet because of Sandy but we were ready for her, my buddy did lose his power but is up and running, what is the small black intake fan and where did you get it
Thanks Al
Great Job
how many amps does that fan pull?
I bet your home owners insurance co will ok this . Not sure if the cabinet meets UL requirements,,,but maybe it will just melt and not ignite...good luck dude.
Nice effort. Acoustically speaking, tho, the the idea of using thin metal sheeting within the enclosure is ill-advised. What dampens sound is loosely coupled (or not coupled at all) sheer mass. There is a product called "loaded vinyl" or "mass-loaded vinyl" which is heavy > 1lb per sq ft. which is used to reduce coupling of vibrations from a sound source to the outside. Affixing the material loosely to the inside of your enclosure will be much more effective in your results.
If my power went out once a week I might consider a set-up like this,But c'mon I only bring out the genny once every ten years for emergency power. I'll deal with a little noise until the power from Edison comes back on.
You mean Tesla he invented the Alternating current that comes to your house
well done!
why did you point it at your house and a window.I would put a flag like Board on a pole about 2 feet away from the exhaust .Angle it at 45 degrees away from the house.When i was a carpenter we just stood a sheet of plywood up nailed too a 5 ft board ala kickstandand sheilded our side. Sheild that exhaust aiming at your window.
i've thought about doing something like this, only my enclosure would be out of brick, then right beside it bury a metal 55gal drum, then run the exhaust to that drum and maybe weld a baffle inside the drum, much the same way a silencer works on guns, that way the sound waves have to expand in the drum then exit through a small vent tube above ground. This would practically eliminate all noise, or atleast make it sound like a faint hum in the distance.
Fantastic!
Hi, what tempetature is espected inside? Maximun?
On a 80deg outside temp, the compartment temp. stabilized at 118deg. I have a compartment overheat auto shutdown switch is incorporated into this project.
there's no sound in the vacuum of space...how to create a vacuum of space
I really love the creativeness but I'd be worried if something went wrong. Way too much to loose. Cool video though.
i like it... cover the inside with egg cartons :)
Can you please advise what is the brand or model of the fan?
www.amazon.com/MaxxAir-HVHF-08FAN-8-Inch-Cylinder/dp/B004GHNKTG/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1507666870&sr=8-4&keywords=maxxair+Cylinder+Fan
Awesome! Great DYI project!!! - I live in PR and Hurricane Maria hit us very hard. I have a PV Solar System and mainly use the generator for a couple hours in the evening to charge the batteries in order to run the house during the night. also want to protect the generator from the rain.
Sound board for sure its good an practical ive seen a good one for 2500...quiet ..made od welded steel..all the beels an whistles but way to much for me if u spend less than 500 buks goood for u anything over a 1k is over kill but all cosmetics an b.s. good wrk for diy😊
is that a pvc 90 on your exhaust pipe?
Looks great but need much more air flow and should be blowing on the motor I would imagine on a hot day a hour of run time could over heat:/
Thanks.
Now thats a quit generator
Thanks GS12. Its a attic vent from home depot.
First, I would not put a heat producing engine inside of a plastic box even with vents and a fan. Second, the exhaust? Gasses can and will make their way into the house with such a short pipe. I would vent it all the way up to the roof and above to let the wind carry away the fumes...
How far up is the muffler on your car?
Is someone doing the lawn behind you?
+11wertyh , Actually the sound on this Video is loud, but in reality its pretty quite. see the Video @ 3:59 , its very quite.
Hi, the silver lining on the compartment lid is called "Reflectix Insulation"Model # BP48025. and for inside walls I used some leftover "Ceiling tin" Tiles ( Model # V3-AVALON-22PBR) both from home depot. thanks
Nice idea but how much better had you stated with a better generator not of a "tradesman" or "craft" series. I might suggest you spent another $100 (or less) for an "auto" fire extinguisher, the type with a self deploying head as you have fuel, electricity and heat all in a nice little plastic box and no extinguisher in site!
Your work and muffler reflect well on your mechanical abilities. I just have difficulty understanding why the temps are 50 Degrees above the ambient temperature. I think that part is that metal giving off heat in the box, Not sure that the sound/heat tradeoff is worth it. I would change Left Side Grille to a Louvered A/C Grille that you can manually open. A little more sound yes, but I think Temps would Drop 10 Degrees or more. my temps are running 12 Degrees ambient see my video v=3GE_qqRMWN8
Could you please post the parts list with model/part numbers
N Silva , I did this project 6 years ago and I no longer own this setup, Most of the parts are from Home Depot, ebay ,& Amazon. Don't have PN for it. Sorry and thanks for watching.
What is the temp sensor/cut off switch made of?
John McDermott, it's a "Thermal Cut-Off Switch purchased from Amazon.
royalcreations is it wired into the on/off switch on the generator?
John McDermott You can connect to ON/OFF switch or to the "low oil" cutoff sensor.
Yes you can.
Very impressive, i am looking to have something similar done.
It's WHISPER QUIET!!!!!!!!!!
sir if you tried large car mufflers you would find you will get little to zero exhaust noise
A "Large muffler" will not eliminate the " Engine mechanical" noise !
only saves about 2-4 db it seems from tests
On small engines most of the noise is from the engine. I run a gen and pressure washer in an enclosed trailer. I piped both exausts outside the trailer and really can't tell a difference in noise. It really just pipes out the heat and carbon monoxide.
Why is it still so loud?
What are the interior dimensions?
the sound seemed to hardly change from closed to open
John Hales, the camera sound gain is high, and the sound you hear a engine mechanical noise.
Quiet my ass! This is louder than my Champion with no shelter.
Quite, I can hear it at my house and I was wondering where that noise was coming from. Generators are just noisy.