In case I didn't make it explicit enough. Because I do see comments getting this wrong on the internets. No Bluetooth audio codec is lossless. Just because a codec greatly exceeds mp3 quality and supports 24 bit and greater than 44.1kHz sample rates which is a higher bit depth and sample rate than CD quality, it is still a lossy format and thus does not offer higher than CD quality. Also even though some codecs support higher sample rates and bit depths than standard definition audio, often they are still capped at 20 kHz meaning they are no more "hi-res" either. Queue debate about hi-res audio being snake oil.... 3... 2...1...
Just a question, will codecs affect uncompressed high quality audio from apps such as Tidal? I'm looking at buying the Bose QC earbuds but they only have AAC and SBC.
I must be a nerd. I watched this whole video just so I can be knowledgeable enough to argue with internet strangers on Bluetooth codecs and audio quality. Thanks man!
The biggest learn for me was just how unpredictable latency is and just how fast and loose some manufacturers play with standards, *almost* makes the codec equation a non issue. You can't just look at the spec and go 'ok that'll perform like whatever'. Ultimately it goes back to having to listen, test and try for yourself which is good cos it keeps us reviewers in business :D
Wow. i just found this video and have to thank you for saving me a shit load of time. I learned everything I need to in just under 18 minutes. AMAZING!
You mentioning the FiiO BTR5 and BTR3 having LHDC support was extremely helpful, I was looking for an amp that used that codec and Google wasn't helping me at ALL. Thank you so much, they are exactly what I'm looking for.
FWIW I have a BTR3 and LHDC although supported on both ends is unusable with my Xiaomi K30. On default settings it is quiet and more crackle than music, it can sometimes be hard to even decipher speech never mind listen to music. If I manually (in Developer options) set the sampling rate down to 44.1 or 48 it becomes listenable in the sense I can hear what is going on, there is still I think some background crackle. It's that digital crackle that you get if a cable is too long/dropping out or a CPU is taxed and dropping samples. There's also sometimes a bit of slowing sort of effect, as if it's trying to catch up. I can't overemphasise how bad the sound is, to be honest I find it hard to distinguish between even SBC and higher codecs normally, but LHDC on my phone is utterly unlistenable. Note this is even with Hi-Res source, (Tidal) anything above 48 simply is impossible. For me, it's the sample rate change that (half) fixes it, the other settings (including the 400/560/900 kbit setting) don't seem to have any effect. Now this could well be my phone rather than the BTR3, and I suspect it is the source device. But it's unusable. LDAC by contrast is absolutely fine. All other codecs (AptX, AptX HD, AAC) are also fine. You MAY have more luck if you have a Huawei phone. But do a Google a search for "Huawei LHDC crackling", A LOT of people with Huawei phones seem to have this exact issue I have with LHDC on my Xiaomi. Again- I cannot over-state how bad this is, it's not a minor thing at all. The FiiO is fantastic as a device otherwise, as I say it may be my phone rather than the FiiO. But I wouldn't be enthusiastic about LHDC from my experience with it. LDAC is perfect.
Nice and clear explanation! But does LDAC and aptX only make sense if you have lossless music files such as FLAC or WAV on your phone? If you only have 320kbps mp3 or AAC files on the playing device, then a higher BT codec such as LDAC or aptX makes no to little sense, right? The chain is as strong as the weakest link. I'm using 320kbps AAC files on my iPhone because that should be a better codec than mp3 at equal bitrates and comes closest to lossless regarding transparency I guess.
The low latency codecs used for Bluetooth audio require a slightly higher bit rate for the same sound quality, so it might make a difference if you have MP3 or AAC source material at 320kbps. If you have 128kbps MP3s, then it probably matters less. Even Apple's AAC implementation for Bluetooth will give a lower quality result at the same bandwidth as the original AAC file, because the latency and battery life of the earphones have to be considered when encoding the audio.
sounds like support for a certain standard is entirely within software and not hardware (assuming they have enough memory space)? Then the only reason a device doesn’t support a standard is because they don’t take the time?
Good explanation👍I can hear the difference with stereo channel separation for details and depth of sound and sharpness of bass with LDAC 990kbps, and it gives best listening experience for me. I listen to music stored as flac's - purchased online or ripped from CDs. Aptx souds better than aac because better stereo channel separation and bass sharpness, however high frequencies are much softer with aac compared to aptx. I did not test aptx hd yet but I hope to play with this one soon 🤞☺
on high end audio you should use ldac codec but use a regulated power transformer for your device . its very important.you will be amazed at the sound quality....
While I am in the playground surrounded by skyscrapers(and a lot of wireless transmission devices),I can feel that Aptx-HD was easier to repeatedly lose contact in a very short time than Aptx.
@@shawnorjiakor Not sure if this is currently true anymore I heard LDAC is now part of "android open source project" so things might/may already have changed regarding that
My main question has been: "Why isn't there a pass-through option for any let alone all formats as they are?" Almost everything listened to is already encoded with much less bitrate than anything it's transcoded to for BT for acceptable quality.
Which codec and BT version is best suited for two-way stereo quality audio on a PC / laptop? Such as using team-talk software (Zoom, Teams, Skype) etc.
The default would naturally be something supported by the audio hardware. Opus should still be a standardized option, since it uses a tiny amount of CPU even on a phone.
Thank you for this review. I recently bought two sets of the Beoplay H95 B&O, and I just love them. And I did it because I wanted to see TV with my wife, Tânia, with the headphones, simultaneously, without disturbing the neighbors. Meanwhile, I understood that now I need to by a "Dual Link" bluetooth transmitter, which supports the Aptx Adaptive, to link my Sony Smart Tv (Dec. 2018, bluetooth 4.1, A2DP) with the two sets of headphones, Bluetooth 5.1, which support the codecs SBC, AAC and APTX Adaptive, without latency or lip-sync significative delay. That's my purpose. The problem is that in the market I didn't found yet a transmitter, with or even without "dual link", supporting the Aptx Adaptive. So, would you be so kind to tell if you know a Bluetooth Transmitter, with the "Dual Link" and APTX Adaptive? The thing is that in the market there are many bluetooth transmitters with "Dual Link", as the Orbit model, from Avantree, and several other models of other brans, but non of them seem to use the APTX Adaptive codec, so they would probably link my tv to my phones whit the SBC codec, and in that case I would probably notice some lip-sync delay... What do I do? Risk with the Orbit, which seems a good and versatile transmitter, or with another transmitter to link via SBC codec? Wait for a new transmitter to come in the market, with APTX Adaptive and "Dual Link" ? As far as I know many people, as me, just don't know what to do with this "APTX Adaptive" new codec thing, because in the market the bluetooth devices still work with the SBC, AAC, Aptx, Aptx LL and HD, LDAC codecs, nobody seem to have devices supporting APTX Adaptive. Best Regards from the suny Lisbon, Pedro
Latency, on BT, is a number for applications different than music listening. An important example would be gaming - a situation that does not allow for syncing audio and video. Other applications are wireless microphones. Even the best WiFi microphones (AKG and Sennheiser, for instance) have a latency of around 3-4ms.
thank you very much for the information i use ldac codec on my bluetooth device wich is connected to a high end dac on my audio system it sounds the best i ever heard better than most cd transports i ever heard thanks man....
I've used A Huawei device that supports HWA and the difference in latency is very noticeable. Quality difference is not noticable at all to LDAC or AAC however. HWA is the BEST codec for gaming.
Depends on device, as he stated, if you have Galaxy Buds with an iPhone (newest models each) you will go with SBC or AAC, on an Android device (latest model from non Samsung brands) you’ll use SBC with the Buds
I really appreciate this video, i've been looking into getting sennheiser momentum 4s to use as a gaming headset on my pc (i know i cant use the mic on them thats fine as i have a razer siren mini) I've been concered about latency though as I tried using my skullcandy indy ancs and they had like a 1 sec delay when playing overwatch (not something you can afford when playing a charcter that people like to flank) I should probably just have to upgrade my bluetooth/wifi pci card from bluetooth 4.1 to 5.2 that hoepfully will make the latency bareable
Hi there! from 2021! I have a Bluetooth speaker that sounding delayed. When im using it to my computer using wired method by the help of 3.5mm audio jack male to male. When im going to play some video clips, you cant see anything wrong about the synchronization of the video and audio. But when im going to use a headset/headphone at the same time, I can figure out that the sound coming from my Bluetooth speaker is far delayed than the sound coming from my headphone. What do you think about it? you think codec is responsible about this? Thank you!
My pair of OnePlus Buds N Bluetooth 5.2 uses aac on Android 11 device (OnePlus 6 Bluetooth 5.0) it works perfectly in this setup. This TWS only supports SBC and AAC codec which you can easily choose from settings. I should say that most of tracks sounds perfectly well and drivers definetly capable of produce high detailed sound with well above average soundstage. But in few tracks resulting quality is subpar at best which i relate to hardware/software. Where you definetly see quality difference is when you pair this with Windows 11 PC (Intel Bluetooth 4.2/WiFi PCIe adapter) it is obvious that AAC not supported there. Now i'm waiting for my new Windows 11 Lenovo laptop with Realtek WiFi6E/BT 5.2 combo, it is interesting how does it play on this device.
MQA is controversial because it was initially marketed as 'lossless' when in fact it is not. Some people think its great because its a good lossy format and its used in hi-res streaming services like Tidal. But the vast majority of people can't tell the difference between that and Spotify anyway. I don't really have any feelings about it either way, its just another format.
I would like to game on my phone using Bluetooth headphones and I'm very worried about latency. Which codec(although as you said; depends on device) would perform best?
I think the codec choice is mostly moot when it comes to latency, even if one codec is in theory better than another it is too variable in the real world to really say one is better than the other. Its really down to the device. The QCY T5 iems for example only support AAC and SBC but have a 'gaming mode' which is supposed to reduce latency which it must do with one of those two codecs but they don't explain how they reduce the latency so not sure what tricks they are doing to bring the latency down.
I use aptx or aptx HD. I haven't noticed any audio delays when playing rhythm games anymore. I can finally enjoy games and videos with bluetooth headphones.
Might be flac, since the MP3 is lossy codec and flac is loseless. If you select MP3, the source is lossy-coded twice (MP3 and then SBC). But I don't think the difference is critical, since the loss in MP3 encoding is not so much significant as that of SBC.
Android phones after Android 8 are supposed to support LDAC... Well, until Android 11. My Pixel 4a5g won't use LDAC with my XM4's. Tried developer mode, and now waiting on Google and Sony to get back to me!
Great video Noel, clear and concise. Can I ask please, if I stream LDAC from my Huawei P30 Pro via BT to a BT DAC that is LDAC enabled, and said DAC is connected via RCA to an MT-602 tube hybrid, will I be listening to LDAC quality through my wired Grado SR325x headphones? Thanks
I stand with the you can hear the difference crowd but I believe it's only if you have the right set up, I have had 9 people counting 1 who has hearing problems try my setup with FLAC files and then compare it to just standard "gaming" headphones on USB and all of them have said they can hear a huge difference, trying my setup vs the cheap headphones with just youtube they all say it's about the same my Sennheiser's are still a bit clearer but that is it for just standard quality, to me it's much like that old crap some people still push that "ThE HuMaN EyE cAN oNLy SeE 60 FPS" but it was proven over 10 years ago that we just didn't have screens that could show more than that, we couldn't test if people could see or hear more than this or that, because our tech couldn't do those rates, be it limited by software or hardware, it was still limited
You get a sub from me good sir. Looking at a btr3 with some iems and dear God is there a lot to know and often so little reward. But the whole picture adds up in the end.
One extra information I just looked at: AptX Adaptive (BT 5.2) is backwards compatible with AptX and AptX HD. (source: Qualcomm site) Excellent video! Aced!
@@maxheadrom3088 Oh. I'm with you on that.😂 I'm currently searching for some Audio Technica open back 1000X's but they're sold out everywhere. Nothing beats cables for lossless hi-fi quality.
Thank you. This has been a thorough explanation. I bought a new samsung s20 phone and am researching wireless earbuds. Want to know how my bluetooth settings might affect the music quality. Cheers.
There are other lossless compressions like APE and a clever one that did not caught on (I don't remember the name) that created two files: one MP3 like and another that, with the first file, makes a lossless set. Lossy compression using high bit rates for most music and most listening devices are really good. In most (really almost all) cases, the limits lie in the amps and loudspeakers. I can (or could, haven't tested recently) tell the difference using a Onyx Blackjack and a Sennheiser HD565 - but only for some types of music, specially those with lots of metals (sax, trumpets). Timbres that have a chaotic component are hard to compress. Now, back to the video! Oh ... latency is only important when watching video - and often, for video, there are workarounds (some are automatic).
@@cartergaming1323 why has it to be apple? It’s proven by expert engineers that aac trough apple devices is the highest quality out there out of lossy formats. There’s no audible difference between streaming a 16bit 44.1 kHz flac. Same goes for measurable difference. Also headroom isn’t gonna be audible by your average audio equipment. And by the way codecs mean nothing when the original recording quality is bad or not optimal. Also makes a huge difference on what kind of recording method was used. Go search and buy dr. Cheky ultimate headphone cd. It’s also available on amazon unlimited in flac 16/44.1. Dunno about other streaming platforms. Has to do with hardware quality and amount of power ( battery and processing ) involved in the processing whereas on android you rarely get that high quality hardware and software management. Practically aptx hd and adaptive won’t sound better than aac. Just so some research. Has nothing to do with apple or android. It’s just a proven fact by many engineers. So to wrap it up, as long as you don’t have high end equipment like high end headphones, there’s no use breaking your head ( like I did for months ) researching. If your equipment or headphones are just average, go either with aptx hd/adaptive or aac. You won’t notice a difference. It’s even hard to notice in higher end equipment if you don’t have a fine/Audiophile ear.
It’s proven by expert engineers that aac trough apple devices is the highest quality out there out of lossy formats. There’s no audible difference between streaming a 16bit 44.1 kHz flac. Same goes for measurable difference. Also headroom isn’t gonna be audible by your average audio equipment. And by the way codecs mean nothing when the original recording quality is bad or not optimal. Also makes a huge difference on what kind of recording method was used. Go search and buy dr. Cheky ultimate headphone cd. It’s also available on amazon unlimited in flac 16/44.1. Dunno about other streaming platforms. Has to do with hardware quality and amount of power ( battery management and processing power ) involved in the Audio processing whereas on android you rarely get that high quality hardware and software management. It means on android phones you never know how much o a high quality processing you get since there’s so much difference between hardware choices that of manufacturers. Whereas on apple you know what you get and it’s been proven. There’s a reason why apple sticks to aac an pay the patent fees. Practically aptx hd and adaptive won’t sound better than aac. Just so some research. Has nothing to do with apple or android. It’s just a proven fact by many engineers. So to wrap it up, as long as you don’t have high end equipment like high end headphones, there’s no use breaking your head ( like I did for months ) researching. If your equipment or headphones are just average, go either with aptx hd/adaptive or aac. You won’t notice a difference. It’s even hard to notice in higher end equipment if you don’t have a fine/Audiophile ear. Like a said many people don’t even know what headroom of bit depth is. It’s like a having a 1000ps car with too small wheels and tires. You will never get that 1000ps out of it. Same analogy gets for headphones and Bluetooth Streaming. Same goes for Bluetooth 5.0/5.1.the only difference is in a Bluetooth transmission method that’s not even used for transmission of studio. Bluetooth 4.2 it’s just as Good whereas 5.1 only got improvement in things that are not used by audio Over Bluetooth. One tip, if you want a good phone for streaming aptx adaptive, go for Nokia 5.4. thank me later.
Am i stupid cause i didnt think he explained this well at all hes describing the playback and streaming codecs i tercjangably like its one or the other and not a combination of playback a streaming codec. How many people actually get this??
Sbc is preferable to aac on android devices?? What are you rambling about?? Its a combination of streaming and playback codec, its not one or the other! Good god, and ppl arw praising this confusing video as informative. You can not store a track i sbc codec, its just used for transfering the audio to a bluetooth endpoint. If your bluetooth endpoint doesnt support the more advanced aptx codecs, your aac codec file will most likley be transfered using sbc codec. It's not one or the other, its a combination. To say sbc is precerable over aac is a missnomer and points to a fundamental lack of understanding.
In case I didn't make it explicit enough. Because I do see comments getting this wrong on the internets. No Bluetooth audio codec is lossless. Just because a codec greatly exceeds mp3 quality and supports 24 bit and greater than 44.1kHz sample rates which is a higher bit depth and sample rate than CD quality, it is still a lossy format and thus does not offer higher than CD quality. Also even though some codecs support higher sample rates and bit depths than standard definition audio, often they are still capped at 20 kHz meaning they are no more "hi-res" either. Queue debate about hi-res audio being snake oil.... 3... 2...1...
Just a question, will codecs affect uncompressed high quality audio from apps such as Tidal? I'm looking at buying the Bose QC earbuds but they only have AAC and SBC.
@@alexanderbuys2051 If the bose only have AAC and SBC, they won't be uncompressed no matter what the source is.
LDAC
Subscribed. This guy talks with no BS and still keeps it interesting. I am impressed. thank you bro
I must be a nerd. I watched this whole video just so I can be knowledgeable enough to argue with internet strangers on Bluetooth codecs and audio quality. Thanks man!
That's exactly what you are, if you needed any validation
Me too, nerd also !!!
Very very very well explained. I feel confident next time whenever I go to buy a new pair of headphones.
Excellent explanation bro! I definitely learned some good information here. Thank you!
The biggest learn for me was just how unpredictable latency is and just how fast and loose some manufacturers play with standards, *almost* makes the codec equation a non issue. You can't just look at the spec and go 'ok that'll perform like whatever'. Ultimately it goes back to having to listen, test and try for yourself which is good cos it keeps us reviewers in business :D
Excellent. Just got my first set of real wireless cans and needed a primer on codecs. Thanks for taking the time!
Same here, quite.
Wow. i just found this video and have to thank you for saving me a shit load of time. I learned everything I need to in just under 18 minutes. AMAZING!
Really fine video Wheezy. Discovered your channel by this vid. Loved it.
Are you not confusing the playback codec with the streaming codec/protocols here?
Great video! Very helpful
You mentioning the FiiO BTR5 and BTR3 having LHDC support was extremely helpful, I was looking for an amp that used that codec and Google wasn't helping me at ALL. Thank you so much, they are exactly what I'm looking for.
FWIW I have a BTR3 and LHDC although supported on both ends is unusable with my Xiaomi K30. On default settings it is quiet and more crackle than music, it can sometimes be hard to even decipher speech never mind listen to music. If I manually (in Developer options) set the sampling rate down to 44.1 or 48 it becomes listenable in the sense I can hear what is going on, there is still I think some background crackle. It's that digital crackle that you get if a cable is too long/dropping out or a CPU is taxed and dropping samples. There's also sometimes a bit of slowing sort of effect, as if it's trying to catch up. I can't overemphasise how bad the sound is, to be honest I find it hard to distinguish between even SBC and higher codecs normally, but LHDC on my phone is utterly unlistenable.
Note this is even with Hi-Res source, (Tidal) anything above 48 simply is impossible. For me, it's the sample rate change that (half) fixes it, the other settings (including the 400/560/900 kbit setting) don't seem to have any effect. Now this could well be my phone rather than the BTR3, and I suspect it is the source device. But it's unusable. LDAC by contrast is absolutely fine. All other codecs (AptX, AptX HD, AAC) are also fine.
You MAY have more luck if you have a Huawei phone. But do a Google a search for "Huawei LHDC crackling", A LOT of people with Huawei phones seem to have this exact issue I have with LHDC on my Xiaomi. Again- I cannot over-state how bad this is, it's not a minor thing at all.
The FiiO is fantastic as a device otherwise, as I say it may be my phone rather than the FiiO. But I wouldn't be enthusiastic about LHDC from my experience with it. LDAC is perfect.
Now, that's how you explain things... Very informative 👍
Big shoutout from El Jefe fan. He pointed your video. Thanks for the detailed video.
Is there any way to improve the latency used with AAC?
@Wheezy Tech, excellent video many thanks for the effort in research and structuring the way that information gathered was replayed back 👏👏👏
Nice and clear explanation!
But does LDAC and aptX only make sense if you have lossless music files such as FLAC or WAV on your phone? If you only have 320kbps mp3 or AAC files on the playing device, then a higher BT codec such as LDAC or aptX makes no to little sense, right? The chain is as strong as the weakest link. I'm using 320kbps AAC files on my iPhone because that should be a better codec than mp3 at equal bitrates and comes closest to lossless regarding transparency I guess.
The low latency codecs used for Bluetooth audio require a slightly higher bit rate for the same sound quality, so it might make a difference if you have MP3 or AAC source material at 320kbps. If you have 128kbps MP3s, then it probably matters less. Even Apple's AAC implementation for Bluetooth will give a lower quality result at the same bandwidth as the original AAC file, because the latency and battery life of the earphones have to be considered when encoding the audio.
sounds like support for a certain standard is entirely within software and not hardware (assuming they have enough memory space)? Then the only reason a device doesn’t support a standard is because they don’t take the time?
How about power consumption? Does it make a significant difference?
Couldn't be explained better. 👌 thank you
Good explanation👍I can hear the difference with stereo channel separation for details and depth of sound and sharpness of bass with LDAC 990kbps, and it gives best listening experience for me. I listen to music stored as flac's - purchased online or ripped from CDs. Aptx souds better than aac because better stereo channel separation and bass sharpness, however high frequencies are much softer with aac compared to aptx. I did not test aptx hd yet but I hope to play with this one soon 🤞☺
on high end audio you should use ldac codec but use a regulated power transformer for your device . its very important.you will be amazed at the sound quality....
While I am in the playground surrounded by skyscrapers(and a lot of wireless transmission devices),I can feel that Aptx-HD was easier to repeatedly lose contact in a very short time than Aptx.
Interesting.
Very helpful video. Thanks mate!
Do you think buying ifi zen air blue v2 worth it?
I love Apt-X HD. It's more than enough for my needs. Most of my files are 320kps and 16 bit FLAC anyway.
Shawn Orjiakor how do you know if your phones supports aptx HD or LDAC?
@@agoogleuser9025 Go to developer's options and see Bluetooth codecs.
@@agoogleuser9025 And your phone has at least Android 8.0 to have all those codecs.
@@agoogleuser9025 And lastly. Try out Bluetooth products that has Apt-X HD like headphones and receivers. Only Sony products can use LDAC fully.
@@shawnorjiakor Not sure if this is currently true anymore I heard LDAC is now part of "android open source project" so things might/may already have changed regarding that
My main question has been: "Why isn't there a pass-through option for any let alone all formats as they are?" Almost everything listened to is already encoded with much less bitrate than anything it's transcoded to for BT for acceptable quality.
Which codec and BT version is best suited for two-way stereo quality audio on a PC / laptop?
Such as using team-talk software (Zoom, Teams, Skype) etc.
What about the headphones and now earbuds such as soundcore vr p10 that uses a dongle ? Could you shed some light about those cpdecs too ?
It would be awesome if manufacturers standardized on Opus for Bluetooth, at least if it works as well there as it does for other applications.
The default would naturally be something supported by the audio hardware. Opus should still be a standardized option, since it uses a tiny amount of CPU even on a phone.
Thank you for this review.
I recently bought two sets of the Beoplay H95 B&O, and I just love them.
And I did it because I wanted to see TV with my wife, Tânia, with the headphones, simultaneously, without disturbing the neighbors.
Meanwhile, I understood that now I need to by a "Dual Link" bluetooth transmitter, which supports the Aptx Adaptive, to link my Sony Smart Tv (Dec. 2018, bluetooth 4.1, A2DP) with the two sets of headphones, Bluetooth 5.1, which support the codecs SBC, AAC and APTX Adaptive, without latency or lip-sync significative delay. That's my purpose.
The problem is that in the market I didn't found yet a transmitter, with or even without "dual link", supporting the Aptx Adaptive.
So, would you be so kind to tell if you know a Bluetooth Transmitter, with the "Dual Link" and APTX Adaptive?
The thing is that in the market there are many bluetooth transmitters with "Dual Link", as the Orbit model, from Avantree, and several other models of other brans, but non of them seem to use the APTX Adaptive codec, so they would probably link my tv to my phones whit the SBC codec, and in that case I would probably notice some lip-sync delay...
What do I do?
Risk with the Orbit, which seems a good and versatile transmitter, or with another transmitter to link via SBC codec?
Wait for a new transmitter to come in the market, with APTX Adaptive and "Dual Link" ?
As far as I know many people, as me, just don't know what to do with this "APTX Adaptive" new codec thing, because in the market the bluetooth devices still work with the SBC, AAC, Aptx, Aptx LL and HD, LDAC codecs, nobody seem to have devices supporting APTX Adaptive.
Best Regards from the suny Lisbon,
Pedro
Latency, on BT, is a number for applications different than music listening. An important example would be gaming - a situation that does not allow for syncing audio and video. Other applications are wireless microphones. Even the best WiFi microphones (AKG and Sennheiser, for instance) have a latency of around 3-4ms.
Just what I was looking for! Good job sir!
Now, how does bluetooth version (5.0, 5.2, etc) factor in for these codecs?
I think if you have good headphones and mobile phone, SBC is the best for most people due to its battery saving quality.
Can u explain meaning of:
Loud speaker including
Channels
Crossover
The audio in this video itself is really good.
Which wireless earbud has most codecs support.
Is it true that when using an Android phone the SBC codec is supposed to sound better than using AAC?
thank you very much for the information i use ldac codec on my bluetooth device wich is connected to a high end dac on my audio system it sounds the best i ever heard better than most cd transports i ever heard thanks man....
lhdc codec is working on my xiaomi poco f2 pro too.... actually the poco have all codecs.....
And what about usb interface instead of bluetooth. I assume that uses PCM (uncompressed audio)?
I've used A Huawei device that supports HWA and the difference in latency is very noticeable. Quality difference is not noticable at all to LDAC or AAC however. HWA is the BEST codec for gaming.
Great video...What codec does bluetooth 5.0 use?
Depends on device, as he stated, if you have Galaxy Buds with an iPhone (newest models each) you will go with SBC or AAC, on an Android device (latest model from non Samsung brands) you’ll use SBC with the Buds
Happy to see this excellent video, thanks!
Incredible video you got a new subscriber💖
I really appreciate this video, i've been looking into getting sennheiser momentum 4s to use as a gaming headset on my pc (i know i cant use the mic on them thats fine as i have a razer siren mini) I've been concered about latency though as I tried using my skullcandy indy ancs and they had like a 1 sec delay when playing overwatch (not something you can afford when playing a charcter that people like to flank) I should probably just have to upgrade my bluetooth/wifi pci card from bluetooth 4.1 to 5.2 that hoepfully will make the latency bareable
What about OGG vorbis the one Spotify uses??
Like he said at the end, it all depends on your device's amp.
Good content brother. Subscribed
Hi there! from 2021!
I have a Bluetooth speaker that sounding delayed. When im using it to my computer using wired method by the help of 3.5mm audio jack male to male. When im going to play some video clips, you cant see anything wrong about the synchronization of the video and audio. But when im going to use a headset/headphone at the same time, I can figure out that the sound coming from my Bluetooth speaker is far delayed than the sound coming from my headphone. What do you think about it? you think codec is responsible about this? Thank you!
My pair of OnePlus Buds N Bluetooth 5.2 uses aac on Android 11 device (OnePlus 6 Bluetooth 5.0) it works perfectly in this setup. This TWS only supports SBC and AAC codec which you can easily choose from settings. I should say that most of tracks sounds perfectly well and drivers definetly capable of produce high detailed sound with well above average soundstage. But in few tracks resulting quality is subpar at best which i relate to hardware/software. Where you definetly see quality difference is when you pair this with Windows 11 PC (Intel Bluetooth 4.2/WiFi PCIe adapter) it is obvious that AAC not supported there. Now i'm waiting for my new Windows 11 Lenovo laptop with Realtek WiFi6E/BT 5.2 combo, it is interesting how does it play on this device.
Great video, thank you!
What about your take on MQA ...Why so split expert opinions on it..Though it's not a format in itself...
MQA is controversial because it was initially marketed as 'lossless' when in fact it is not. Some people think its great because its a good lossy format and its used in hi-res streaming services like Tidal. But the vast majority of people can't tell the difference between that and Spotify anyway. I don't really have any feelings about it either way, its just another format.
@@WheezyTechThankyiu lots Bro...clean reviews .subs dd
which one best ACC vs aptx or aptxHd ?
LDAC, then aptX, then AAC, then SDB
@@OMCPero the last 2 ones are not true its SBC then AAC. AAC is literally the less powerful and worse codec
@@resinds.p4898 You are correct, my mistake
@@OMCPero well i could be wrong too
@@resinds.p4898 yeah AAC only works perfectly with iPhones in Android it works like Garbage I'm telling you this because I have one😭
Great lighting bro 😅
Very informative thank you.
Superb explanation. Thanks!
Thank you so much
Nice video, pretty neat. Really enjoyable headphone collection behind XD
You're underrated man
Awesome explaination brthr... Good work👍🏻
I would like to game on my phone using Bluetooth headphones and I'm very worried about latency. Which codec(although as you said; depends on device) would perform best?
I think the codec choice is mostly moot when it comes to latency, even if one codec is in theory better than another it is too variable in the real world to really say one is better than the other. Its really down to the device. The QCY T5 iems for example only support AAC and SBC but have a 'gaming mode' which is supposed to reduce latency which it must do with one of those two codecs but they don't explain how they reduce the latency so not sure what tricks they are doing to bring the latency down.
@@WheezyTechok thank you. It's heavily device dependent and also environmental factors
I use aptx or aptx HD. I haven't noticed any audio delays when playing rhythm games anymore. I can finally enjoy games and videos with bluetooth headphones.
What is the best option for SBC? Mp3 320 kbps or Flac 960Kbps, since the SBC limit is 328, the difference in definition is very heard?
Might be flac, since the MP3 is lossy codec and flac is loseless.
If you select MP3, the source is lossy-coded twice (MP3 and then SBC).
But I don't think the difference is critical, since the loss in MP3 encoding is not so much significant as that of SBC.
Thank you for your research and video.
Android phones after Android 8 are supposed to support LDAC... Well, until Android 11. My Pixel 4a5g won't use LDAC with my XM4's. Tried developer mode, and now waiting on Google and Sony to get back to me!
Nicely done. Thank you
the best is vorbis 500 kbps but they don't want to implement it inside the bluetooth!
Realme 7 pro have ladc?
Ldac
Does anyone here use Hiby's own bluetooth codec, UAT (Ultra Audio Transmission)?
Great video Noel, clear and concise. Can I ask please, if I stream LDAC from my Huawei P30 Pro via BT to a BT DAC that is LDAC enabled, and said DAC is connected via RCA to an MT-602 tube hybrid, will I be listening to LDAC quality through my wired Grado SR325x headphones? Thanks
I stand with the you can hear the difference crowd but I believe it's only if you have the right set up, I have had 9 people counting 1 who has hearing problems try my setup with FLAC files and then compare it to just standard "gaming" headphones on USB and all of them have said they can hear a huge difference, trying my setup vs the cheap headphones with just youtube they all say it's about the same my Sennheiser's are still a bit clearer but that is it for just standard quality, to me it's much like that old crap some people still push that "ThE HuMaN EyE cAN oNLy SeE 60 FPS" but it was proven over 10 years ago that we just didn't have screens that could show more than that, we couldn't test if people could see or hear more than this or that, because our tech couldn't do those rates, be it limited by software or hardware, it was still limited
Good job
I pay so much money for the WHX4. They suck for gaming.
You get a sub from me good sir. Looking at a btr3 with some iems and dear God is there a lot to know and often so little reward. But the whole picture adds up in the end.
Listening to a video without images does my head in - I need a visual point to get what you on about.
I did put info cards in what else did you want?
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Since when does Ed Sheeran make these types of videos ?
Bro thanks❤️
Ive never had any problems w/ aac and android. Maybe its improved idk. Android phones are hit and miss.
One extra information I just looked at: AptX Adaptive (BT 5.2) is backwards compatible with AptX and AptX HD. (source: Qualcomm site)
Excellent video! Aced!
what does that even mean?😂🥴
@@Blackfeet That's the new AptX standard used in BT5.2. It's a mess - and that's why I won't be switching from cable that soon!
@@maxheadrom3088 Oh. I'm with you on that.😂 I'm currently searching for some Audio Technica open back 1000X's but they're sold out everywhere. Nothing beats cables for lossless hi-fi quality.
Thank you. This has been a thorough explanation. I bought a new samsung s20 phone and am researching wireless earbuds. Want to know how my bluetooth settings might affect the music quality.
Cheers.
There are other lossless compressions like APE and a clever one that did not caught on (I don't remember the name) that created two files: one MP3 like and another that, with the first file, makes a lossless set.
Lossy compression using high bit rates for most music and most listening devices are really good. In most (really almost all) cases, the limits lie in the amps and loudspeakers. I can (or could, haven't tested recently) tell the difference using a Onyx Blackjack and a Sennheiser HD565 - but only for some types of music, specially those with lots of metals (sax, trumpets). Timbres that have a chaotic component are hard to compress.
Now, back to the video!
Oh ... latency is only important when watching video - and often, for video, there are workarounds (some are automatic).
1 dislike, ha? Probably an 🍏 user
11 now 🤥
@@cartergaming1323 why has it to be apple? It’s proven by expert engineers that aac trough apple devices is the highest quality out there out of lossy formats.
There’s no audible difference between streaming a 16bit 44.1 kHz flac. Same goes for measurable difference.
Also headroom isn’t gonna be audible by your average audio equipment.
And by the way codecs mean nothing when the original recording quality is bad or not optimal.
Also makes a huge difference on what kind of recording method was used.
Go search and buy dr. Cheky ultimate headphone cd.
It’s also available on amazon unlimited in flac 16/44.1.
Dunno about other streaming platforms.
Has to do with hardware quality and amount of power ( battery and processing ) involved in the processing whereas on android you rarely get that high quality hardware and software management.
Practically aptx hd and adaptive won’t sound better than aac.
Just so some research. Has nothing to do with apple or android. It’s just a proven fact by many engineers.
So to wrap it up, as long as you don’t have high end equipment like high end headphones, there’s no use breaking your head ( like I did for months ) researching. If your equipment or headphones are just average, go either with aptx hd/adaptive or aac. You won’t notice a difference. It’s even hard to notice in higher end equipment if you don’t have a fine/Audiophile ear.
It’s proven by expert engineers that aac trough apple devices is the highest quality out there out of lossy formats.
There’s no audible difference between streaming a 16bit 44.1 kHz flac. Same goes for measurable difference.
Also headroom isn’t gonna be audible by your average audio equipment.
And by the way codecs mean nothing when the original recording quality is bad or not optimal.
Also makes a huge difference on what kind of recording method was used.
Go search and buy dr. Cheky ultimate headphone cd.
It’s also available on amazon unlimited in flac 16/44.1.
Dunno about other streaming platforms.
Has to do with hardware quality and amount of power ( battery management and processing power ) involved in the Audio processing whereas on android you rarely get that high quality hardware and software management. It means on android phones you never know how much o a high quality processing you get since there’s so much difference between hardware choices that of manufacturers. Whereas on apple you know what you get and it’s been proven.
There’s a reason why apple sticks to aac an pay the patent fees.
Practically aptx hd and adaptive won’t sound better than aac.
Just so some research. Has nothing to do with apple or android. It’s just a proven fact by many engineers.
So to wrap it up, as long as you don’t have high end equipment like high end headphones, there’s no use breaking your head ( like I did for months ) researching. If your equipment or headphones are just average, go either with aptx hd/adaptive or aac. You won’t notice a difference. It’s even hard to notice in higher end equipment if you don’t have a fine/Audiophile ear.
Like a said many people don’t even know what headroom of bit depth is.
It’s like a having a 1000ps car with too small wheels and tires. You will never get that 1000ps out of it. Same analogy gets for headphones and Bluetooth Streaming.
Same goes for Bluetooth 5.0/5.1.the only difference is in a Bluetooth transmission method that’s not even used for transmission of studio. Bluetooth 4.2 it’s just as Good whereas 5.1 only got improvement in things that are not used by audio Over Bluetooth.
One tip, if you want a good phone for streaming aptx adaptive, go for Nokia 5.4. thank me later.
Am i stupid cause i didnt think he explained this well at all hes describing the playback and streaming codecs i tercjangably like its one or the other and not a combination of playback a streaming codec. How many people actually get this??
nice video
Why not make the Brightness of your video compatible with Human vision?
Ldac and don't look back.
Kaash yahi sab knowledge koi hindi me deta toh ye best video thi samjhne ke liye..
Sbc is preferable to aac on android devices?? What are you rambling about?? Its a combination of streaming and playback codec, its not one or the other! Good god, and ppl arw praising this confusing video as informative. You can not store a track i sbc codec, its just used for transfering the audio to a bluetooth endpoint. If your bluetooth endpoint doesnt support the more advanced aptx codecs, your aac codec file will most likley be transfered using sbc codec. It's not one or the other, its a combination. To say sbc is precerable over aac is a missnomer and points to a fundamental lack of understanding.
Plz just answer quick why theres latency!!!! Im too old to have patience with a full youtube video review
Why are you sitting inside dark pithole
Nice video. Very informative.