It’s not a lathe it’s a Swiss machine, they produce parts from stock that’s continually fed forward, so a mill wouldn’t be useful for this application unless you did all of your milling after the parts were cut off.
I was thinking as impressive as this is, wouldn't it be much easier to set up on a milling machine. High School Machine shop in the 90s. Well I worked in a press shop too. Whatever, dude's just showcasing his skills and has my respect.
It is cool. But you would never have a three axis lathe without live tool capability. He either ran out of live tool spots, or he's just showing off. lol
I've been doing this crap a long time and never have I considered this an option as something that was possible. I'm guessing it'd work for a little bit, but the reduced stability from not having the turret locked while cutting will result in reduced tool life. Drilling on a lathe already sucks compared to mill but imagine trying to do it while the turret is riding back and forth against the x and yaxis ballscrews.
@@phuckyocouch9098okay I followed you on most things. I would agree drilling on a lathe sucks due to coolant issues and the part spinning. But I will choose a lathe for a better drilled hole probably.
How do u figure that? I would assume and prefer (depending on the situation circumstances) the mill for accuracy and ease all day! Overall interchangeable tool and project diversity, but I reckon most people finding themselves dealing with these situations are only dealing with one or two time projects. We on the other hand are just gandering a functionality for the sake of good conversation with like-minded pros who , whether at home or at work probably have some access to both machines any how😂 P.s I'm very board atm haha @@corbbinrabus
@corbbinrabus you don't have to worry about drilling off center on a mill. If you're using live tooling you don't have to worry about that obviously but you just don't get as much torque/hp on a lt in most circumstances than you will on a mill vs lt. Also rpm limitations with live tools.
Wow I think this idea is greate if you dont have a life tool. However my second thought... you probably shouldn't do this in a production run cause this would accelerate the wear on the linear guides right?
If you don't have live tool that can be very useful tip. It can't be very fast and accurate because you rotate tool on small diameter with linear axies. If you'll get like 10m/min that already will be success
If you lean out of the window and hold the wrench still, you can also take off the front wheel of your car while driving backwards ;) I think it’s nice to see something unusual though, even if it’s not that useful for everyday use :)
I've used a similar setup for reaming undersized 3d prints, or even cleaning paint off threads for a work truck, but I never knew it could be so precise, or controlled. Usually I'll put a bit in a vise or some other holder to manually spin the part if I don't feel like powering up the drill and clamping in the part
Nice. On a few occasions, I considered whether it was worth trying something similar but never pursued it any further. Macro saved for a future head scratcher moment 😂
Only CNC lathes with "live tooling" are capable of spinning a tool. Normally only the part spins in a lathe. And only a small fraction of lathes have live tooling. @@digiacomtech5589
how many pollocks does it take to change a light bulb? one to hold the light steady- and 500 more to pick up the house & spin it. lmao. every other machinist on the planet: clamp the part down on the deck of a bridgeport- and drill it.
I love just trying stuff like this at work. It's nice having a boss that alots you time for experimentation. The job becomes more fun and you end up producing more.
Typically a lathe can only drill a hole at the very center of its jaws. By doing this he changes where the center is so to speak. I think there are better ways of doing this, but it's cool nonetheless
1 part at a time on lathe vs many parts on a mill...hmm Think I could drill holes faster on a mill since I could fit about 100 or more of those part on a horizontal with a 4 sided tombstone.
Oh yeah, it’s Titan….with the fanciest most expensive machines available…yeah right it doesn’t have a live tool. Of course it does! This dude is creating content, nothing more. That drill needs to be spinning 10x faster than it is. What a bunch of silliness…🤦🏼♂️
When you want to drill an off-center hole, but dont want to remove the part to drill on a different machine, causing you to re-set and zero the workpiece back on the original machine.
Ok, took me a sec here to understand what the point is. The side the Drill is on is just a stationary holder without a driven unit to spin the drill. So hence the odd way of drilling in a circle motion. Same point though. Why not just figure out a way to hold the part on the other side? So then you can hold the part where the drill is and spin the drill where the part is? Maybe the part was too big to figure that out. And I'm guessing either this was the only option, or this was basically a FAFO moment to prove a point of concept. Which if you're just working a single unique piece or two, this would be doable. Otherwise having a more appropriate machine, namely a drill press most likely, would be a better and more efficient use of time and tooling.
Please do not share code like this. Because someone is going to copy it, fill in those variables incorrectly, not single block the first loop, than then demolish their turret or what ever. At least put in some error traps for gods sake.
Thanks for sharing the macro thing I always wondered how they worked and it looks very similar to my gcode on my 3d printer I see a M115 line just like a 3d printer.
Hell just go one up an mount the part on the tool changer an put a drill in the spindle chuck. Probably be faster but you’d definitely getting fired for that one lol
For those of you who have a three thousand axis CNC lathe but no milling machine
Yeah this was definitely just a “i wonder if I could…” moment more than practical problem solving lol
I didn’t know how to put in in words. You rock man 🤣
Hey if it cuts down the # of operations it can be worth it, save the loading time.
It’s not a lathe it’s a Swiss machine, they produce parts from stock that’s continually fed forward, so a mill wouldn’t be useful for this application unless you did all of your milling after the parts were cut off.
I was thinking as impressive as this is, wouldn't it be much easier to set up on a milling machine. High School Machine shop in the 90s. Well I worked in a press shop too. Whatever, dude's just showcasing his skills and has my respect.
Straight up awesome if you don’t have live tooling and have a 3-axis lathe
It is cool. But you would never have a three axis lathe without live tool capability. He either ran out of live tool spots, or he's just showing off. lol
I've been doing this crap a long time and never have I considered this an option as something that was possible.
I'm guessing it'd work for a little bit, but the reduced stability from not having the turret locked while cutting will result in reduced tool life. Drilling on a lathe already sucks compared to mill but imagine trying to do it while the turret is riding back and forth against the x and yaxis ballscrews.
@@phuckyocouch9098okay I followed you on most things. I would agree drilling on a lathe sucks due to coolant issues and the part spinning. But I will choose a lathe for a better drilled hole probably.
How do u figure that? I would assume and prefer (depending on the situation circumstances) the mill for accuracy and ease all day! Overall interchangeable tool and project diversity, but I reckon most people finding themselves dealing with these situations are only dealing with one or two time projects.
We on the other hand are just gandering a functionality for the sake of good conversation with like-minded pros who , whether at home or at work probably have some access to both machines any how😂
P.s I'm very board atm haha @@corbbinrabus
@corbbinrabus you don't have to worry about drilling off center on a mill. If you're using live tooling you don't have to worry about that obviously but you just don't get as much torque/hp on a lt in most circumstances than you will on a mill vs lt. Also rpm limitations with live tools.
I made an eccentric drilling macro for my drill press. Here's what it looks like:
Measure and Clamp part
Turn on drill press
Lower drill
Raise drill
*Taking notes " Slow down, wtf"
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Instructions unclear, drilled hole through table then broke press handle off.
😂@@74KU
Can we see eccentric tapping too?! 😂
Why not? Set proper feed and direction of rotation
Eccentric Snapping 😅
@TITANSofCNC DOOOO IT
It could be done with thread milling.
Never been happier to have live tools in every machine
It's not crazy if
a) it work's
b) is quicker than the "normal" way
But... it's not quicker than the normal way.
So what is it then
So because it's not quicker, does that make it crazy?
Quicker doesn't mean better or right.
@@austyndrums1993 in this instance it does
Wow I think this idea is greate if you dont have a life tool.
However my second thought... you probably shouldn't do this in a production run cause this would accelerate the wear on the linear guides right?
Sure would be cool if they made a machine for drilling
@@paraxicgaming5743 but they don't, so... What are you gonna do? 🤷 Hahhaha
@@sivansharma5027 gentle persons gather your sticks it's gonna be a long night of spinning it in one spot
That feel when 1 day of swiss setup is still faster than waiting a week for a mill to open up 😅
Уровень извращенности просто запрелельный🎉
Nice work Donny!
That was very nice of you to post the code
Nice solution. Looks cool as well 😊
He's probably one of the most talented machinist I've seen
now do 10,000 RPM, LoL.
Probably could
@@Martin-xh1hd The machine would vibrate apart well before it was to speed
Great idea, glad I thought of it.
That’s really impressive
I just run a weiler 70 lathe
I want a cool machine that can do some crazy shit like that
If you don't have live tool that can be very useful tip. It can't be very fast and accurate because you rotate tool on small diameter with linear axies. If you'll get like 10m/min that already will be success
If you lean out of the window and hold the wrench still, you can also take off the front wheel of your car while driving backwards ;)
I think it’s nice to see something unusual though, even if it’s not that useful for everyday use :)
I've used a similar setup for reaming undersized 3d prints, or even cleaning paint off threads for a work truck, but I never knew it could be so precise, or controlled. Usually I'll put a bit in a vise or some other holder to manually spin the part if I don't feel like powering up the drill and clamping in the part
Good luck finding a machine with a y axis but no live tooling
Very good point. This simple macro looks very cool but is completely useless.
Right? This is ridiculous, if not stupid. Most y axis lathes, especially swiss style capable machines, are going to have live tooling.
Nice. On a few occasions, I considered whether it was worth trying something similar but never pursued it any further.
Macro saved for a future head scratcher moment 😂
"Having a little bit of fun" aka... Dogfucking
Big bosses son energy right here lol
I feel like that's gotta wreak havoc on the bit. Doesn't feel like the torque is equal all around the hole
That looks like the program example that came with my commodore64 manual 50 years ago.
GCode is straight from that era. You can still connect modern PC to any RS232-capable machining center and feed the code
Sweet macro program!!!!
It's amazing what CNC can do these days. But wouldn't have been easier to keep the part stationary and reposition the spinning drill ;)
Like he said the drill can’t spin
@@liamdj6535 .. As with most modern CNCs everything can spin and/or move in multiple axes.
Only CNC lathes with "live tooling" are capable of spinning a tool. Normally only the part spins in a lathe. And only a small fraction of lathes have live tooling. @@digiacomtech5589
@@digiacomtech5589 like he said his couldn’t spin
@@liamdj6535 ну он же не сказал что установка приводного инструмента на этот станок не возможна.
That pretty cool . Something that is impressive .
My favourite part was when he showed what said offset hole looks like
I would love to learn and explore how smart my brain really is
how many pollocks does it take to change a light bulb? one to hold the light steady- and 500 more to pick up the house & spin it. lmao.
every other machinist on the planet: clamp the part down on the deck of a bridgeport- and drill it.
Man is mathematical boss to come up with that
Never heard of a CNC program being called a macro but makes sense.
Really? It's pretty common...
Nice
If there's any backlash in those ballscrews that'd be a nightmare.
I wonder how many holes you can drill until you have to do maintenance of the whole machine
I love just trying stuff like this at work. It's nice having a boss that alots you time for experimentation. The job becomes more fun and you end up producing more.
And wearing out the equipment
eccentric drilling is always satisfying
genius
Could help show any issues with geometrics in your machine.
.250 hole comes out .280..... Circularity issues in a lathe lol
You do understand this is what insanity looks like ?
Only if it doesn't work.
Huh .. you lost me somewhere in there.. you almost had me but unfortunately you lost me😂😂😂
In what scenario is this useful,why not drill with the lathe still?greetings from spain
Typically a lathe can only drill a hole at the very center of its jaws. By doing this he changes where the center is so to speak. I think there are better ways of doing this, but it's cool nonetheless
Making UA-cam content
@@achillesak1275 so... Get a drill press
@@CGoody564 I mean yes, but also idk if he has more operations on the lathe. If he does he wouldn't want to take it out of the chuck. So🤷🏿
Stupid idea. People have been drilling off-center holes way before this machine.
1 part at a time on lathe vs many parts on a mill...hmm Think I could drill holes faster on a mill since I could fit about 100 or more of those part on a horizontal with a 4 sided tombstone.
So what exactly stops you from spinning the drill when the holes are off-center by stopping the spinning of the part?
How about putting the part off centre on the chuck an drill regularly?
Assuming the machine works correctly literally anywhere else. Always parts over maintenance
Why not just keep the part stationary and spin the drill bit? Why have you overcomplicated this?
Bullshit. You can rotate the drill, whilst drilling off center. Just stop the rotation of the object.
Cute, but that would probably wear the devil out of the ways after a while. Ballscrews are probably nice and warm.
Oh yeah, it’s Titan….with the fanciest most expensive machines available…yeah right it doesn’t have a live tool. Of course it does! This dude is creating content, nothing more. That drill needs to be spinning 10x faster than it is. What a bunch of silliness…🤦🏼♂️
Bro is cooking
Ever heard of a harbour freight drill press and c clamps?
now tap it!
This is going to come off awkward but you are super cool. How’d you learn to do that?
So you used a million dollar machine and many hours of programming to do what could be done in thirty minutes with a five hundred dollar drill press.
When you want to drill an off-center hole, but dont want to remove the part to drill on a different machine, causing you to re-set and zero the workpiece back on the original machine.
Ok, took me a sec here to understand what the point is. The side the Drill is on is just a stationary holder without a driven unit to spin the drill. So hence the odd way of drilling in a circle motion.
Same point though. Why not just figure out a way to hold the part on the other side? So then you can hold the part where the drill is and spin the drill where the part is? Maybe the part was too big to figure that out. And I'm guessing either this was the only option, or this was basically a FAFO moment to prove a point of concept. Which if you're just working a single unique piece or two, this would be doable. Otherwise having a more appropriate machine, namely a drill press most likely, would be a better and more efficient use of time and tooling.
My not an accurate repeatable jig on a drill press? Swap the stock and bing bango how ever many you need
jesus christ that code 😢 i'll never complain about javascript again
Please do not share code like this. Because someone is going to copy it, fill in those variables incorrectly, not single block the first loop, than then demolish their turret or what ever. At least put in some error traps for gods sake.
That’s cute you get to play around and get paid like that
but syntax of that macro language looks worse than javascript.
Or, and hear me out.. put the drill bit in the part of the machine that spins... and the part in the stationary side....
For the next trick, trying drilling a hole pattern whilst being of difference sizes.
What about just not spinning the piece you're making a hole in? I know right!
Cool but who has this crazy setup without having a simple drill press
Thats genius ! Thanks for sharing code
Getting use to manual machining is a nightmare getting use to CNC machining is a lucid nightmare
I NEED A DRILL PRESS AND CLAMPS TOO
You could use a milling machine but I can see that using the lathe is more fun. Haha, nice work.
Super clever use of the technology even if its out of reach for most people lol
Second hand machine market just got a huge boost
Why does the fucking thing need to spin while you drill it. Put it in a clamp and drill the damn hole
Why dont you drill directly by spinning drilling bit and keep squre steel stationary
Thanks for sharing the macro thing I always wondered how they worked and it looks very similar to my gcode on my 3d printer I see a M115 line just like a 3d printer.
Gcode was originally written for CNC mills, 3d printing used the standard for ease of use. 3d printing just uses XYZW instead of rotations
All this talk about quicker better faster ..... and he shows us a waste of time
Why wouldn't you be able to spin the drill? Just...turn it on??
I've seen this before. Is it well know method or something really rare to see in use?
Dont you just need a four jaw chuck to offset the piece until the hole is centered in your machine?
that is going to cause a lot of extra wear and tear on the components. Why not mount the part at an offset to the point to be drilled is centered?
i need the most accurate telescope mount gears for matching the rotation of the earth! GO!
Today I found out how much I hate center justified Gcode.
Woooo, nice 🥹
Why?😅
Original cycle, no?
For those that don't know how to use their XYZ live tool lathes... 😅😅😅
Would t it be easier to make a jig that could center the part for when it's off center?
This is what happens when you have to find a problem for your solution
Can we see actual applications for real world use or just over engineering how to drill a hole
Yeah rite bro got buried in the piece when he was lookin up UA-cam videos of how to 😊
Thats hilarious but your cutting speed...
why does the clip end before he breaks the tab, most likely when he reverses to take it out
Im guessing it didnt work as it wasnt shown actualy drilling
Such an expensive machine; can’t spin the drill….
Amazing… now why not use a drill press?
Why does the lathe have to spin while you're drilling I don't get it
I guess a mill is out of the question, unless you want to just continue to press buttons.
Awesome, how do you get the drill rotation at the same time???😊
That feel when the boss is too cheap for live tooling
Hell just go one up an mount the part on the tool changer an put a drill in the spindle chuck. Probably be faster but you’d definitely getting fired for that one lol