Swiss Eccentric Drilling

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  • Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
  • CNC Machinist Writes an Eccentric Drilling Macro for the Tornos GT 32 Swiss Machine
    #cncmachine #machining #engineering

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  • @erikpeterson4546
    @erikpeterson4546 8 місяців тому +2217

    For those of you who have a three thousand axis CNC lathe but no milling machine

    • @votive7478
      @votive7478 8 місяців тому +118

      Yeah this was definitely just a “i wonder if I could…” moment more than practical problem solving lol

    • @poostiu
      @poostiu 8 місяців тому +13

      I didn’t know how to put in in words. You rock man 🤣

    • @MF-og1ct
      @MF-og1ct 8 місяців тому +15

      Hey if it cuts down the # of operations it can be worth it, save the loading time.

    • @JeronimoStilton14
      @JeronimoStilton14 8 місяців тому +6

      It’s not a lathe it’s a Swiss machine, they produce parts from stock that’s continually fed forward, so a mill wouldn’t be useful for this application unless you did all of your milling after the parts were cut off.

    • @seagullvictim7563
      @seagullvictim7563 8 місяців тому

      I was thinking as impressive as this is, wouldn't it be much easier to set up on a milling machine. High School Machine shop in the 90s. Well I worked in a press shop too. Whatever, dude's just showcasing his skills and has my respect.

  • @The_Machinist_23
    @The_Machinist_23 9 місяців тому +666

    Straight up awesome if you don’t have live tooling and have a 3-axis lathe

    • @timschjei3917
      @timschjei3917 9 місяців тому +38

      It is cool. But you would never have a three axis lathe without live tool capability. He either ran out of live tool spots, or he's just showing off. lol

    • @phuckyocouch9098
      @phuckyocouch9098 9 місяців тому +18

      I've been doing this crap a long time and never have I considered this an option as something that was possible.
      I'm guessing it'd work for a little bit, but the reduced stability from not having the turret locked while cutting will result in reduced tool life. Drilling on a lathe already sucks compared to mill but imagine trying to do it while the turret is riding back and forth against the x and yaxis ballscrews.

    • @corbbinrabus
      @corbbinrabus 9 місяців тому +1

      ⁠​⁠@@phuckyocouch9098okay I followed you on most things. I would agree drilling on a lathe sucks due to coolant issues and the part spinning. But I will choose a lathe for a better drilled hole probably.

    • @jimmysergent8568
      @jimmysergent8568 9 місяців тому

      How do u figure that? I would assume and prefer (depending on the situation circumstances) the mill for accuracy and ease all day! Overall interchangeable tool and project diversity, but I reckon most people finding themselves dealing with these situations are only dealing with one or two time projects.
      We on the other hand are just gandering a functionality for the sake of good conversation with like-minded pros who , whether at home or at work probably have some access to both machines any how😂
      P.s I'm very board atm haha ​@@corbbinrabus

    • @phuckyocouch9098
      @phuckyocouch9098 9 місяців тому +2

      ​@corbbinrabus you don't have to worry about drilling off center on a mill. If you're using live tooling you don't have to worry about that obviously but you just don't get as much torque/hp on a lt in most circumstances than you will on a mill vs lt. Also rpm limitations with live tools.

  • @CGoody564
    @CGoody564 8 місяців тому +239

    I made an eccentric drilling macro for my drill press. Here's what it looks like:
    Measure and Clamp part
    Turn on drill press
    Lower drill
    Raise drill

    • @exoduslnx
      @exoduslnx 8 місяців тому +17

      *Taking notes " Slow down, wtf"

    • @ivanvazquez7465
      @ivanvazquez7465 8 місяців тому +1

      🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @74KU
      @74KU 8 місяців тому +8

      Instructions unclear, drilled hole through table then broke press handle off.

    • @johnathonpeacock5729
      @johnathonpeacock5729 7 місяців тому

      😂​@@74KU

  • @MarkEMcKechnie
    @MarkEMcKechnie 9 місяців тому +169

    Can we see eccentric tapping too?! 😂

    • @arseniirak115
      @arseniirak115 9 місяців тому +11

      Why not? Set proper feed and direction of rotation

    • @Karl_Kampfwagen
      @Karl_Kampfwagen 8 місяців тому +17

      Eccentric Snapping 😅

    • @basti3984
      @basti3984 7 місяців тому

      @TITANSofCNC DOOOO IT

    • @stevepaltzer7605
      @stevepaltzer7605 6 місяців тому

      It could be done with thread milling.

  • @TheBaconKing32
    @TheBaconKing32 8 місяців тому +1

    Never been happier to have live tools in every machine

  • @JaenEngineering
    @JaenEngineering 9 місяців тому +331

    It's not crazy if
    a) it work's
    b) is quicker than the "normal" way

    • @CNCMatrix
      @CNCMatrix 9 місяців тому +61

      But... it's not quicker than the normal way.

    • @gavinsfriend456
      @gavinsfriend456 8 місяців тому +1

      So what is it then

    • @jisezer
      @jisezer 8 місяців тому +3

      So because it's not quicker, does that make it crazy?

    • @austyndrums1993
      @austyndrums1993 8 місяців тому +3

      Quicker doesn't mean better or right.

    • @gavinsfriend456
      @gavinsfriend456 8 місяців тому +10

      @@austyndrums1993 in this instance it does

  • @12erplays39
    @12erplays39 9 місяців тому +36

    Wow I think this idea is greate if you dont have a life tool.
    However my second thought... you probably shouldn't do this in a production run cause this would accelerate the wear on the linear guides right?

    • @paraxicgaming5743
      @paraxicgaming5743 8 місяців тому +11

      Sure would be cool if they made a machine for drilling

    • @sivansharma5027
      @sivansharma5027 7 місяців тому

      ​@@paraxicgaming5743 but they don't, so... What are you gonna do? 🤷 Hahhaha

    • @paraxicgaming5743
      @paraxicgaming5743 7 місяців тому +1

      @@sivansharma5027 gentle persons gather your sticks it's gonna be a long night of spinning it in one spot

  • @ShaodiHuang
    @ShaodiHuang 7 місяців тому +2

    That feel when 1 day of swiss setup is still faster than waiting a week for a mill to open up 😅

  • @tollik25
    @tollik25 6 місяців тому +1

    Уровень извращенности просто запрелельный🎉

  • @jnye6625
    @jnye6625 2 місяці тому

    Nice work Donny!

  • @christafarion9
    @christafarion9 8 місяців тому

    That was very nice of you to post the code

  • @monza1002000
    @monza1002000 7 місяців тому

    Nice solution. Looks cool as well 😊

  • @dominic6634
    @dominic6634 9 місяців тому +2

    He's probably one of the most talented machinist I've seen

  • @Buciasda33
    @Buciasda33 9 місяців тому +109

    now do 10,000 RPM, LoL.

    • @Martin-xh1hd
      @Martin-xh1hd 8 місяців тому +2

      Probably could

    • @wolvenar
      @wolvenar 8 місяців тому +8

      @@Martin-xh1hd The machine would vibrate apart well before it was to speed

  • @Cleatus546
    @Cleatus546 8 місяців тому

    Great idea, glad I thought of it.

  • @Kil23Joy
    @Kil23Joy 8 місяців тому

    That’s really impressive
    I just run a weiler 70 lathe
    I want a cool machine that can do some crazy shit like that

  • @arseniirak115
    @arseniirak115 9 місяців тому +1

    If you don't have live tool that can be very useful tip. It can't be very fast and accurate because you rotate tool on small diameter with linear axies. If you'll get like 10m/min that already will be success

  • @no-expert
    @no-expert 7 місяців тому

    If you lean out of the window and hold the wrench still, you can also take off the front wheel of your car while driving backwards ;)
    I think it’s nice to see something unusual though, even if it’s not that useful for everyday use :)

  • @AaronLyNxAI
    @AaronLyNxAI 9 місяців тому

    I've used a similar setup for reaming undersized 3d prints, or even cleaning paint off threads for a work truck, but I never knew it could be so precise, or controlled. Usually I'll put a bit in a vise or some other holder to manually spin the part if I don't feel like powering up the drill and clamping in the part

  • @rustys.1070
    @rustys.1070 9 місяців тому +5

    Good luck finding a machine with a y axis but no live tooling

    • @shadowdsfire
      @shadowdsfire 8 місяців тому +3

      Very good point. This simple macro looks very cool but is completely useless.

    • @mathieuthiem8712
      @mathieuthiem8712 8 місяців тому +1

      Right? This is ridiculous, if not stupid. Most y axis lathes, especially swiss style capable machines, are going to have live tooling.

  • @seanCNC23
    @seanCNC23 9 місяців тому +19

    Nice. On a few occasions, I considered whether it was worth trying something similar but never pursued it any further.
    Macro saved for a future head scratcher moment 😂

  • @yle_coyote4178
    @yle_coyote4178 8 місяців тому

    "Having a little bit of fun" aka... Dogfucking
    Big bosses son energy right here lol

  • @darknesshas1
    @darknesshas1 8 місяців тому

    I feel like that's gotta wreak havoc on the bit. Doesn't feel like the torque is equal all around the hole

  • @axa.axa.
    @axa.axa. 8 місяців тому +2

    That looks like the program example that came with my commodore64 manual 50 years ago.

    • @felixyasnopolski8571
      @felixyasnopolski8571 8 місяців тому

      GCode is straight from that era. You can still connect modern PC to any RS232-capable machining center and feed the code

  • @jaimecruz7275
    @jaimecruz7275 9 місяців тому +1

    Sweet macro program!!!!

  • @digiacomtech5589
    @digiacomtech5589 8 місяців тому +12

    It's amazing what CNC can do these days. But wouldn't have been easier to keep the part stationary and reposition the spinning drill ;)

    • @liamdj6535
      @liamdj6535 8 місяців тому +3

      Like he said the drill can’t spin

    • @digiacomtech5589
      @digiacomtech5589 8 місяців тому +2

      @@liamdj6535 .. As with most modern CNCs everything can spin and/or move in multiple axes.

    • @theEvoght
      @theEvoght 8 місяців тому

      Only CNC lathes with "live tooling" are capable of spinning a tool. Normally only the part spins in a lathe. And only a small fraction of lathes have live tooling. ​@@digiacomtech5589

    • @liamdj6535
      @liamdj6535 8 місяців тому +3

      @@digiacomtech5589 like he said his couldn’t spin

    • @101picofarad
      @101picofarad 8 місяців тому +2

      ​@@liamdj6535 ну он же не сказал что установка приводного инструмента на этот станок не возможна.

  • @WilliamSmith-jv4zi
    @WilliamSmith-jv4zi 9 місяців тому +5

    That pretty cool . Something that is impressive .

  • @EVILBUNNY28
    @EVILBUNNY28 5 місяців тому +1

    My favourite part was when he showed what said offset hole looks like

  • @abramwiebe5840
    @abramwiebe5840 7 місяців тому

    I would love to learn and explore how smart my brain really is

  • @jaybee3165
    @jaybee3165 9 місяців тому +24

    how many pollocks does it take to change a light bulb? one to hold the light steady- and 500 more to pick up the house & spin it. lmao.
    every other machinist on the planet: clamp the part down on the deck of a bridgeport- and drill it.

  • @leeboy8689
    @leeboy8689 8 місяців тому

    Man is mathematical boss to come up with that

  • @ldevasure
    @ldevasure 8 місяців тому

    Never heard of a CNC program being called a macro but makes sense.

  • @ZoeyR86
    @ZoeyR86 9 місяців тому +1

    Nice

  • @ryancrozier3428
    @ryancrozier3428 8 місяців тому

    If there's any backlash in those ballscrews that'd be a nightmare.

  • @leprozorijc7988
    @leprozorijc7988 8 місяців тому

    I wonder how many holes you can drill until you have to do maintenance of the whole machine

  • @chrisgraf4469
    @chrisgraf4469 8 місяців тому +2

    I love just trying stuff like this at work. It's nice having a boss that alots you time for experimentation. The job becomes more fun and you end up producing more.

  • @markdavis304
    @markdavis304 9 місяців тому +10

    eccentric drilling is always satisfying

  • @klimakleberwegreisser
    @klimakleberwegreisser 8 місяців тому

    genius

  • @cameronberg3302
    @cameronberg3302 8 місяців тому

    Could help show any issues with geometrics in your machine.
    .250 hole comes out .280..... Circularity issues in a lathe lol

  • @QurttoRco
    @QurttoRco 9 місяців тому +6

    You do understand this is what insanity looks like ?

  • @jeffwolf8018
    @jeffwolf8018 8 місяців тому

    Huh .. you lost me somewhere in there.. you almost had me but unfortunately you lost me😂😂😂

  • @WalidElkiraa
    @WalidElkiraa 8 місяців тому +3

    In what scenario is this useful,why not drill with the lathe still?greetings from spain

    • @achillesak1275
      @achillesak1275 8 місяців тому

      Typically a lathe can only drill a hole at the very center of its jaws. By doing this he changes where the center is so to speak. I think there are better ways of doing this, but it's cool nonetheless

    • @CGoody564
      @CGoody564 8 місяців тому +1

      Making UA-cam content

    • @CGoody564
      @CGoody564 8 місяців тому +1

      ​@@achillesak1275 so... Get a drill press

    • @achillesak1275
      @achillesak1275 8 місяців тому

      ​@@CGoody564 I mean yes, but also idk if he has more operations on the lathe. If he does he wouldn't want to take it out of the chuck. So🤷🏿

  • @nukemman
    @nukemman 8 місяців тому

    Stupid idea. People have been drilling off-center holes way before this machine.

  • @jonathanruthstrom3367
    @jonathanruthstrom3367 7 місяців тому

    1 part at a time on lathe vs many parts on a mill...hmm Think I could drill holes faster on a mill since I could fit about 100 or more of those part on a horizontal with a 4 sided tombstone.

  • @juliandeal93
    @juliandeal93 8 місяців тому

    So what exactly stops you from spinning the drill when the holes are off-center by stopping the spinning of the part?

  • @bertbergers9171
    @bertbergers9171 8 місяців тому

    How about putting the part off centre on the chuck an drill regularly?

  • @dopeylindstrom2236
    @dopeylindstrom2236 8 місяців тому

    Assuming the machine works correctly literally anywhere else. Always parts over maintenance

  • @jonathandye2812
    @jonathandye2812 8 місяців тому

    Why not just keep the part stationary and spin the drill bit? Why have you overcomplicated this?

  • @markneedham752
    @markneedham752 8 місяців тому

    Bullshit. You can rotate the drill, whilst drilling off center. Just stop the rotation of the object.

  • @jeffwombold9167
    @jeffwombold9167 8 місяців тому

    Cute, but that would probably wear the devil out of the ways after a while. Ballscrews are probably nice and warm.

  • @madmat990
    @madmat990 8 місяців тому

    Oh yeah, it’s Titan….with the fanciest most expensive machines available…yeah right it doesn’t have a live tool. Of course it does! This dude is creating content, nothing more. That drill needs to be spinning 10x faster than it is. What a bunch of silliness…🤦🏼‍♂️

  • @tgrandduelist1413
    @tgrandduelist1413 8 місяців тому

    Bro is cooking

  • @thedarkgreenvanman
    @thedarkgreenvanman 8 місяців тому +1

    Ever heard of a harbour freight drill press and c clamps?

  • @harrelsontrumpets
    @harrelsontrumpets 8 місяців тому

    now tap it!

  • @grimsolace4433
    @grimsolace4433 8 місяців тому

    This is going to come off awkward but you are super cool. How’d you learn to do that?

  • @jus4funtim
    @jus4funtim 8 місяців тому

    So you used a million dollar machine and many hours of programming to do what could be done in thirty minutes with a five hundred dollar drill press.

  • @randywl8925
    @randywl8925 8 місяців тому

    When you want to drill an off-center hole, but dont want to remove the part to drill on a different machine, causing you to re-set and zero the workpiece back on the original machine.

  • @EanSeki
    @EanSeki 7 місяців тому

    Ok, took me a sec here to understand what the point is. The side the Drill is on is just a stationary holder without a driven unit to spin the drill. So hence the odd way of drilling in a circle motion.
    Same point though. Why not just figure out a way to hold the part on the other side? So then you can hold the part where the drill is and spin the drill where the part is? Maybe the part was too big to figure that out. And I'm guessing either this was the only option, or this was basically a FAFO moment to prove a point of concept. Which if you're just working a single unique piece or two, this would be doable. Otherwise having a more appropriate machine, namely a drill press most likely, would be a better and more efficient use of time and tooling.

  • @espencera
    @espencera 8 місяців тому

    My not an accurate repeatable jig on a drill press? Swap the stock and bing bango how ever many you need

  • @beagle989
    @beagle989 8 місяців тому

    jesus christ that code 😢 i'll never complain about javascript again

  • @syntaxcaptain
    @syntaxcaptain 7 місяців тому

    Please do not share code like this. Because someone is going to copy it, fill in those variables incorrectly, not single block the first loop, than then demolish their turret or what ever. At least put in some error traps for gods sake.

  • @TillURide420
    @TillURide420 8 місяців тому +9

    That’s cute you get to play around and get paid like that

  • @dienvidbriedis1184
    @dienvidbriedis1184 7 місяців тому

    but syntax of that macro language looks worse than javascript.

  • @davenandalall
    @davenandalall 8 місяців тому

    Or, and hear me out.. put the drill bit in the part of the machine that spins... and the part in the stationary side....

  • @junkdubious
    @junkdubious 7 місяців тому

    For the next trick, trying drilling a hole pattern whilst being of difference sizes.

  • @jnssmnsn
    @jnssmnsn 7 місяців тому

    What about just not spinning the piece you're making a hole in? I know right!

  • @seventheleven
    @seventheleven 8 місяців тому

    Cool but who has this crazy setup without having a simple drill press

  • @mathieufasquelle3159
    @mathieufasquelle3159 9 місяців тому +10

    Thats genius ! Thanks for sharing code

  • @23eerry
    @23eerry 8 місяців тому

    Getting use to manual machining is a nightmare getting use to CNC machining is a lucid nightmare

  • @adriandeward9976
    @adriandeward9976 8 місяців тому

    I NEED A DRILL PRESS AND CLAMPS TOO

  • @ThreadedNail
    @ThreadedNail 8 місяців тому

    You could use a milling machine but I can see that using the lathe is more fun. Haha, nice work.

  • @stevenshasky6673
    @stevenshasky6673 8 місяців тому

    Super clever use of the technology even if its out of reach for most people lol

  • @EngiesParadise
    @EngiesParadise 7 місяців тому +1

    Second hand machine market just got a huge boost

  • @lcsvlone2811
    @lcsvlone2811 7 місяців тому

    Why does the fucking thing need to spin while you drill it. Put it in a clamp and drill the damn hole

  • @rajnikantkesarkar1434
    @rajnikantkesarkar1434 8 місяців тому

    Why dont you drill directly by spinning drilling bit and keep squre steel stationary

  • @JuanJDumeP
    @JuanJDumeP 8 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for sharing the macro thing I always wondered how they worked and it looks very similar to my gcode on my 3d printer I see a M115 line just like a 3d printer.

    • @qwertyay5155
      @qwertyay5155 8 місяців тому

      Gcode was originally written for CNC mills, 3d printing used the standard for ease of use. 3d printing just uses XYZW instead of rotations

  • @MamasFunkyMonkey
    @MamasFunkyMonkey 8 місяців тому

    All this talk about quicker better faster ..... and he shows us a waste of time

  • @kendallancaster9988
    @kendallancaster9988 8 місяців тому

    Why wouldn't you be able to spin the drill? Just...turn it on??

  • @deepWalter
    @deepWalter 9 місяців тому

    I've seen this before. Is it well know method or something really rare to see in use?

  • @bjornthorgudmundsson2781
    @bjornthorgudmundsson2781 8 місяців тому

    Dont you just need a four jaw chuck to offset the piece until the hole is centered in your machine?

  • @ralphmueller3725
    @ralphmueller3725 7 місяців тому

    that is going to cause a lot of extra wear and tear on the components. Why not mount the part at an offset to the point to be drilled is centered?

  • @GrundleStiltSkin
    @GrundleStiltSkin 7 місяців тому

    i need the most accurate telescope mount gears for matching the rotation of the earth! GO!

  • @Pow3llMorgan
    @Pow3llMorgan 7 місяців тому

    Today I found out how much I hate center justified Gcode.

  • @chraven69
    @chraven69 7 місяців тому

    Woooo, nice 🥹

  • @Nobodi.
    @Nobodi. 9 місяців тому +1

    Why?😅
    Original cycle, no?

  • @megatrondecepticon3348
    @megatrondecepticon3348 8 місяців тому

    For those that don't know how to use their XYZ live tool lathes... 😅😅😅

  • @gentlemanmadness607
    @gentlemanmadness607 8 місяців тому

    Would t it be easier to make a jig that could center the part for when it's off center?

  • @lukeberry94
    @lukeberry94 8 місяців тому

    This is what happens when you have to find a problem for your solution

  • @JesseSlaughter
    @JesseSlaughter 8 місяців тому

    Can we see actual applications for real world use or just over engineering how to drill a hole

  • @keithbyrne8070
    @keithbyrne8070 8 місяців тому

    Yeah rite bro got buried in the piece when he was lookin up UA-cam videos of how to 😊

  • @davidchavez81
    @davidchavez81 9 місяців тому

    Thats hilarious but your cutting speed...

  • @radoslavkefilev312
    @radoslavkefilev312 6 місяців тому

    why does the clip end before he breaks the tab, most likely when he reverses to take it out

  • @marksmith161
    @marksmith161 8 місяців тому

    Im guessing it didnt work as it wasnt shown actualy drilling

  • @goatsinker347
    @goatsinker347 8 місяців тому

    Such an expensive machine; can’t spin the drill….

  • @shaneosborne5426
    @shaneosborne5426 8 місяців тому

    Amazing… now why not use a drill press?

  • @midnighttoker133
    @midnighttoker133 7 місяців тому

    Why does the lathe have to spin while you're drilling I don't get it

  • @MrAirblown2009
    @MrAirblown2009 7 місяців тому

    I guess a mill is out of the question, unless you want to just continue to press buttons.

  • @BonaRasmey
    @BonaRasmey 7 місяців тому

    Awesome, how do you get the drill rotation at the same time???😊

  • @Arctic2Noob
    @Arctic2Noob 8 місяців тому +1

    That feel when the boss is too cheap for live tooling

  • @jesseagosto
    @jesseagosto 8 місяців тому

    Hell just go one up an mount the part on the tool changer an put a drill in the spindle chuck. Probably be faster but you’d definitely getting fired for that one lol