1966 Ford Fairlane vs 1969 Plymouth Barracuda | Pure Stock Drag Race
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- Опубліковано 30 жов 2021
- 1966 Ford Fairlane GTA drag racing 1969 Plymouth Barracuda 440. Pure Stock Muscle Car Drag Race. Factory Stock Drag Race.
First car is a 1966 Ford Fairlane. The other is a 1969 Plymouth Barracuda. The Fairlane is a GTA and therefore has the 390 V8. The Barracuda has the 'Cuda package, specifically with the 440 V8. The Fairlane GTA 390 was rated 335 horsepower, while the Cuda 440 was rated 375 horsepower. The GTA only came with a C6 3-speed automatic transmission (the GT was a manual transmission). The Cuda 440 in 1969 also only came with a 3-speed automatic transmission, specifically the TorqueFlite. Rear gearing in the Ford Fairlane is a set of 4.11, and the Cuda has 3.91. Weight of the Ford Fairlane including driver is 3620 pounds, while the Plymouth Cuda 440 is only 3550 pounds. There were only 340 total 1969 Cuda 440 produced, and 33,015 hardtop GT/GTAs for 1966. Motor Trend tested a 1966 Ford Fairlane GTA and it ran 0-60 in 6.8 seconds and the quarter mile in 15.2 seconds @ 92 mph. Car Life tested the 1969 Cuda 440 and it ran 0-60 in 5.6 seconds and the quarter mile in 13.89 seconds @ 103.2 mph.
Pure Stock Muscle Car Drag Race (PSMCDR). FAST Factory Appearing Stock Tire factory stock. Super Car Drag Race.
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The rules for PSMCDR are listed below:
For 1955 to 1979 musclecars built in United States and Canadian assembly plants with a minimum warranty of 12 months and 12,000 miles.
Any car running faster than 11.50 will be disqualified and will not have a qualifying time recorded.
Any convertible running faster than 13.50 will be disqualified and will not have a qualifying time recorded.
Casting numbers must be correct for the year and horsepower claimed including intake manifold, heads, and exhaust manifolds. Blocks do not have to be "numbers matching," but they must be the correct displacement. Overbores up to .070" are allowed. Stock cranks only.
All Engines - CR 1.5 extra points allowed over advertised.
The camshaft must be correct for the year, model, and horsepower claimed for the type of lifter (hydraulic or solid). Roller cams NOT allowed.
The valve train must be factory stock for the year, make, and horsepower claimed.
The ignition system must be stock, including the distributor, cap, coil, and wires. Points may be replaced with any electronic conversion that fits under the stock distributor cap.
The carburetor must be correct for the year, make, and horsepower claimed. Jetting and metering changes are permitted. THE CHOKE ASSEMBLY MUST BE IN PLACE AND FUNCTIONAL!
Cast-iron exhaust manifolds are mandatory and must be correct for the year, model, and horsepower claimed. Internal modifications to the exhaust manifolds are NOT allowed. Under no circumstances will headers be allowed, including those cars that came with headers delivered in the trunk. Pipes must be routed as they were originally for the year, make, model, and engine combination. Mufflers must be stock looking in design, that is, oval in shape. No glasspacks or straight pipes allowed unless installed as original equipment. Maximum muffler inlet and outlet size is 2.5 inches. X & H pipes allowed.
The radiator must be correct for the year, make, model, and horsepower claimed. No lightweight, aluminum radiators allowed.
The camshaft must be correct for the year, model, and horsepower claimed for the type of lifter (hydraulic or solid). Roller cams NOT allowed. Duration at .050" lobe lift must be within 1% of factory specs. Lift at the valve must be within 2% of factory specs. Maximum stall limited to 2200 rpm.
The transmission must be correct for year, make, model and engine of the car. 3-speed manuals may be upgraded to the correct 4-speed if originally available.
The rear axle must be of the same manufacturer as the car. Any gear ratio is allowed.
Reproduction tires or radial tires only.You are allowed to run tires one size over stock.
Factory wheels only.
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That Ford Fairlane doesn't look like a grandma car to me at all. It's bad ass.
Grandma car 👵
Grandma has good taste in cars.
Yeah he was off base with that description
A grandma car?, look at the Monte carlo....
@@CarsAndZebrasJack Ass 😂
I'm a GM guy for the most part, but that Fairlane makes me forget about brand loyalty. One of the best looking cars to ever come out of the sixties.
I’m a ford guy, I appreciate your honesty. Me as a ford guy I have a love for the chevelle and the nova.
@@anthonyhuntley4498 You guys are meant to be together ❤ . Lol 😆 🤣 😂 . Couldn't resist 🤣
I'm a Ford guy, but seem to buy alot of Chevy trucks..
I've always been a Ford guy, & I had a '66 Fairlane w/390 4 speed. That car was quick!❤😎👍
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I've had two 1966 Mercury Cycloe GT's with 390 and 4-speeds.
One of many things I like about these C&Z Pure Stock videos: The use of EDITING to remove 7 minutes of approach, burnouts, backing up, staging, etc, getting right to the green light. Plus, overlaying the elapsed time and trap speed results, which many drag race videos fail to provide. Great Job!
Of course the 390 wasn’t bad, my uncle has a bunch of trophies from drag racing from his 390 Galaxie back in the 60s .
That Fairlane is a handsome car.
Having owned a 66 Fairlane GT 390 back during the muscle car era, that one was exceptionally fast.
More Fords Please ! I Love watching Fords beat up Big Block Mopars that are Lighter and have Bigger Engines.
Oh dry up already Flowerstroke fan.😋
@@jayschmahl9206 Shut up.
@@badass6.0powerstroke10 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Me too !
Enjoy it while you can because that doesn’t happen. My 340 68 GTS used to blow the doors off 390’s.
Being a Ford fan let's go FORD!
Good guess!
Once that big 390 starts breathing towards the end of the track it 🚶♂️ walks the 440!
Finely tuned is right. That was some fine racing by both involved
I really dig the top-end cam, the cars ALL sound GREAT going through the traps WOT, wound-up and topped-out!! Just love the sound of these cars doing what they were meant to do.
definitely cool!
I really like the camera shot about 3/4 of the way down the track, hearing the cars roar by and how close they are.👍👍💪
Thanks!
Add a 427 to that Fairlane and you’d have a real beast
@jay lamb - Many a Chrysler Hemi fell prey to those 427 Thunderbolts!
That Ford is tuned to perfection, I would have put my bets on the Mopar all day, very impressive.
Ditto that. Ford FE 390’s in stock form were torquey truck motors. They had nothing after about 4000 rpm. Amazing what a few ‘legal’ mods can do.
I'm a Ford guy I'm still sitting here wondering what's been done to that 390 to make it out run that 440
@@ONTHEEDGEFRED The 66 could run the C6AER heads just like CJs with 2.04:1.56 valves and had the CJ cam. The 66 would pull to 6000 stock. The smog heads killed them. That’s the difference. A 67 would have been laughed off the track. The 66 was a good setup with gears to let it rev. They can pull to 5800/6000 stock. The 67s are like truck engines that top out at 4500.
Those guys were incredibly consistent. That's pretty impressive.
Always loved the 390 engine. Bad ass Ford
My Dad had red 64 Galaxie 500 390 4 speed that car was awesome he loved it and so did I but now I’m a bow tie guy, thanks to the owners for paying those cars the justice they deserve.
That 390 had 300 horsepower, wasn't much get up and go with a big Galaxie to lug around, a Chevy 327/300 hp would eat that 390 for breakfast, lunch and dinner. I had a 1963 Ford Galaxie 500, 390, 300hp, 4 speed that I wish I still had, but it didn't win too many street drags. My favorite cars I've owned over the years were a '63 Galaxie 500, 390/300 hp, 4 spd--------a '69 SS396 Chevelle L78 TH400 transmission--------- and a 1999 C5 Corvette.
Great racing - and thank you! Another win for the ol’ 390. To me, and underrated engine. 🌮 🌮
390 was tuned & 440 wasn’t. Factory - factory. Tuned - tuned. It’s the 440. You’d have to give the smaller engine some unnatural advantage to win😉
“Tuned” doesnt mean anything without details, a carb swap and timing adjustment doesnt count for anything. With the 440s torque, hp, and weight advantage, it should have won
Blueprinting, port matching, gears and traction bars!
Hot Rod 1966 - They did a article on a C/Stock 390 Comet that ran a 12.97 @ 108mph with nothing but a blueprinted engine, headers, gears, shifter, traction bars and tires
I'm torn on this one my high school hot rod was a 67 Fairlane GT 390 but these days I'm more of a Mopar guy. Both cool beautiful cars!
Can’t go wrong with either!
It's all good. My current rides are a Ford Panther and a Chrysler Jeep WJ.
great video! Guy has the Ford dialed in! Happy Hallow's Eve-C&Z!!
thanks!
I'm a Ford man but can't believe the Fairlane won especially after seeing the specification comparison. Shouldn't have been in the same class.
Giving up 50 cubic inches made me think it didn't have a chance.
Must be the Fairlane's better gear ratios and maybe the Barracuda's two non functioning hood scoop added some extra drag 😁
@@diegosilang4823 😄
I can understand being loyal to a brand. But in the 60’s-70’s every one had beautiful car’s wished i grew up in the 60’s. Instead of the 70’s
Watching both these cars is sweet. They were #1 and #2 on my lust list as a teen! Great to see them not only well preserved, not only well-tuned, but in the hands of owners not afraid to show them off!
I've always liked 66-67 Fairlane. This is my favorite video of yours. You definitely cracked me up. Good one
Thanks, bout time seeing some Ford Power on here. Chalk up Another Loss for the Mopar Camp.
Just when you thought Cars and Zebras published the best race ever he hits you with an even better one... Way to go!!!
Those 4.11 gears of the Ford won that race.
I don’t know that Cuda was the same weight or less and had 50 cubes on it. The 390 with the 66 heads are way underrated, they had same cam as a 428CJ just 2.04/1.56 valves. The manifolds suck but the Cuda just got beat with the crummy manifolds they can do 385-390 hp with the stock cam and good springs and Fords good lifters to allow 5800- 6000 without pumping up. and 450 ft lbs. the 390 with a good tune will surprise you until .the smog police came down. 66 was the last year of the good heads on the 390. A 67 might not have done as well. It was a fair race there were quite a few good 390s and just headers and a recurve with the good tall port early style C6AER heads could pull down 410 hp with nothin but richer jets. They love to rev, I have a .020 over 390 small single pattern solid with C4 heads and headers and a Holley SD single plane and it made 463 hp at 6400, 488 ft lbs at 10.3:1. The bottom end is brutally tough! I d like to put a turbo on mine with 12 pounds of boost. 825 hp maybe. The pistons are forged and the stock rods are Forged with the same part number as a CJ 428 only with 3/8 ARP bolts. Good balance job. I have revved it out the back door at 7300 with no sweat or any apparent drop of power. I hope the Aftermarket heads for Ford and Mopar survive this “parts shortage “ I love seeing both still hammering it out in the 1320!
Looks like the Ford had Holly carb which flows more fuel and better then the Edelbrock carb on the Cuda
@@notme810 I've heard 66 was a good year for the 289..True or not ? I have one in my 62 Fairlane 😎
You are 100% correct. I bought a brand new 66 GTA off the showroom floor. Biggest race was a 67 GTX 440 magnum and lost by 1 1/2 car length. I had a open 350 rear end and I think would have been a tie with a locking 411. Could rev that car to 6000 rpm.
The Ford GTA is a monster car my uncle had one
I would like 30 minutes to tune on the Mopar but coming from a Ford family was not surprised Fairlane was running that strong
Don't mess with a Fairlane FE
I miss my 67 Fairlane GT. That was a thing of beauty
You can thank Grand Spaulding Dodge for the big inch Chrysler mills in an A body. Just stupid quick cars in a straight line, provided u could get um to hook up. But that Ford 390 could really be built to run also, and this GTA is really a great example! Love the color as well!
They handled very well also. Beat a 65 hypo 289 square back mustang 4 speed in a 5 mile curvy road race. Locked in 2nd gear most of the time. C6 GTA. First great ford Automatic.
Another awesome video with good old-fashioned muscle cars love it.
Thanks for watching 👍
Later the Fairlane driver admitted he forgot to take the parking brake off.
Cuda was lighter and had more hp but got spanked by the Fairlane anyway. No surprise !
That 390GT is really tuned good. I'm glad to see it get the W over the 440, which was a rare occasion when these cars were new. That 390GT is quicker than most 428CJ cars were in 69!!
It's the same block isn't it?
Brandon humphries
@@jeremyg7975 they're both FE blocks. Same architecture but the 390 is a 4.05 bore and the 428 is a 4.13 bore. 390 has a 3.78" stroke and 428 has a 3.98" stroke
@@brandonhumphries3377 Same cam and very similar heads, just smaller valves but FE heads flow surprisingly well, the power is in the intake manifold and 66 they came loaded for bear.
Both cars are sweet. I love these old school pure stock drags.
Engine balanced and blueprinted
LOVE 390 FAIRLANES
Very close times. The '69 'Cuda 440 is just a king of A-body for me!
I'm more of a 69 Dart GTS guy, love both tho!
Both very cool!
I would love either one of them! Wish the Plymouth had 410s also
Man, it soooo good to have your commentary back. 👋
Wow, two car's I really love. The Barracuda is my favorite car of all time and the GT/GTA Fairlane is my favorite Ford. If I could take one home with me, it would likely be the 'Cuda, wait, I want them both. I can alway's dream.
I’ll dream too 👍
Yes I agree, the 70/71 cudas are tops for me and love the AAR
Good race!
Based on the specs, we favored the 'Cuda to take it. The Fairlane driver did excellent launches and hole shots, and didn't give anything away at the top end.
Goodday C & Z,
What a great race, expecting more out of the Cuda.
M Code does it get better thsn that, those Ford Hardtop Bodies are gorgeous.
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Louis Kats from Melbourne Australia ☺ 👍 ❤
I know that the Cuda really struggled with traction
My childhood friends father had a 69 Mercury Grand Marquis. 428/429. Cant remember which. 4 door plain Jane land yacht. Bye George that giant shoe box would scoot.
I had a 66 GTA the same color as this one during my senior year in high school. It definitely kicked ASS
These two cars have met their match. Love American muscle cars.❤❤
I like those finish line replays!
YAY FINALLY A FORD !!
not many in pure stock, unfortunately
@@CarsAndZebras I know, In 66 the Fairlane GTA did well in D/SA and in D/S. InC/S some made weight and in both classes the Ford FE 390 and the Olds 442 with a 400 did really well in 66 and 67, then they messed the Olds up too with a 3.875 bore and 4.25 stroke. The previous 442 400 was a 4 inch bore and 3.975 stroke with a cam similar to the GTs in 66. Those two were a pair in C and D. The 442 did well in 67, but fell off the map like the 390s did. A 67 Fairlane needed the 428 CJ. The 428CJ is still competitive in C in the Mustang. The M&M Racing car with the late Alex Dynsenkyo driving really did well. I miss the 69 Mustang fastback in C/SA, Alex would hang the front hoops on every run. The good old days. And 428CJs. Man!
Awesome , Thanks C&Z
thanks again for watching!
I agree 100%. I really enjoy the videos the commentary and the quality of the comments back and forth. No fanboy trolling. Good solid action and discussion, good and polite with good details!
I would happily own either one of these car's.
definitely 👍
Car's what?
@@jumpinjojo yeah..that means More than one. I know it's probably Hurts but think about it. 😂
@@randallgreen6746 You don’t use an apostrophe to pluralize a word. “Cars” is how it should be written.
@@jumpinjojo -Give it a rest professor.
Very closely matched. I would have thought the Barracuda would have won. The Ford Fairlane with that 390 was certainly underrated in the horsepower department.
Would never have guessed that out come. You got me !
Always been a plymouth/dodge/chrysler kind of guy. Nice old cars very close drags. I'd love to have either one of them.
Back in the day street racers knew that 440's were nothing to be feared.
Both ran great! Thumb up.
I’m a Mopar guy but I love the Fairlane and Torino cars.
WITHOUT THE COMMENTARY THESE VIDEOS ARE EMPTY AND BLAND .... THE CONTENT AND FORMAT OF ZEBRAS IS RIGHT ON THE MARK
Thanks!
love the GTA = all day long !
390 Fairlanes are stronger than they get credit for
Reaction time is the great equalizer in Drag Racing
very well prepped Fairlane here. Showroom GTA’s would run 2 seconds slower!
4.11s, tuning for high octane gas, and high-load valve springs make a huge difference in a Ford FE
@@CarsAndZebras and a “pure stock” blueprint cam I’d bet.
according to the owner there hasn’t been a cam swap
@@CarsAndZebras The 66 heads are way better than 67 up unless you sneak a set on a 67 up. They breathe to 6000 with the same cam as the 428 CJ, check out the specs. The 66390 was a chili pepper with the NHRA stock legal heads that was essentially a D/SA possibly even a C/SA, what was the index in 66?
@@CarsAndZebras It didn’t need one it had the 428CJ cam stock on the showroom floor. Headers are the only mod they neeeded in 66 . 67 required the 66 heads and weight factor for D/SA
Love both cars! But that 440 has stolen my heart. C&Z you kill me every video.
Have to say I am really surprised by this result. The FE 390 was a truck motor snd was never known as a real performance engine. They had decent torque but didn’t have much left after about 4000 rpm. Amazing what a few legal mods can do to wake up some engines.
No I have to disagree. The FE is a strong and able engine capable of 400+hp with factory parts. A 428CJ is a stroker 390 with 4.13 bores and bigger valves in the LR 427 heads that are a lot like 390 heads from mom and pop cars. They were definitely not just truck engines, you could get catalog Ford parts to get 450 hp from the 390.. Mine does 6500-6800 with factory rods ARP bolts with 64 Galaxie heads.
390 FE is a car engine. They did put de-tuned versions in pickups. 390 FT is the actual truck engine, made for meduim duty trucks.They are a different engine.
Thanks. I live for these battles!
Had to be the 4.11 gears? That Ford was really quick off the line.
Definitely helped having the 4.11 gears!
The cuda had 50 cubic inch on him and was running 3:91s.
The ford just out performed him
The 66 GTA is a different animal than the 67 and up 390s unless you put 66 heads on it.
Looks like the Ford had Holly carb which flows more fuel and better then the Edelbrock carb on the Cuda
I did not think the GTA was gonna take that 440.
Fear the FE...
I feel another hard one coming on. Should be a good one.
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That's what she said.
those 4.11 gears make the difference
Two excellent cars and drivers. Very closely matched. I'm a MOPAR guy, mostly. Love the GTA also, the 1967 Mercury Comet Cyclone GT. I had a model of that one and knew a neighbor who had 2 of them in his driveway. In high school, a friend had a 1966 Barracuda 273ci/235hp. Hot little car. I do prefer the 1970 "CUDA" body style. I've owned three 440s and one 340. Thanks.
That's some good racing.👍
My first car was a 67 GTA. It was pretty quick for how beat it was.
Love the Fairlane my first car was 66' Fairlane 289 c4 automatic
I'd love to know what all he has done to get that much power out of that 390.
It has to be a lot. Might need to put that car on the dyno.
Yeah it was definitely not stock.
If you remember they had 375hp heads for 390's back then. They were good flowing and used to be quite a few of them around....The 401hp were a lot harder to come by. But right there is a 55-65 hp gain off the bat...
The 390 in 66 was underrated at 335 horsepower. I believe in 61 the 390 could be optioned at 375 and 401 horsepower. Like the 71 boss 351 rated 330 horsepower was actually about 380. Ford was known for sandbagging their power ratings.
The only dyno pulls that I could find that put out hp in the 390 range had hotter cam,intake carb headers and better heads. Allt he others that were near stock, except headers ,were 315-330 hp.
Pure stock doesn't allow all that. The 1966 390 fe didnt have the high compression heads, high rise intake
(Or the 3×2 bl setup ford put in the trunk to get 400 hp in 61-63 ) that's why I think he was fudging a bit.
@@howardbedford6075 yes for the 1971 boss 351 according to Richard Holdener
Another great drag video, thanks much!!
Thanks for watching!
good race!
definitely 👍
Nice match up. I'm 65 and these cars would have seen around my area of Columbus,Ohio. Except I don't recall seeing an M-code Cuda, but an older guy would sometimes bring out his Dart GTS with 440
I owned a 66 GTA green and black an absolutely beautiful car
Great video C & Z
I really like the racing of these beautiful muscle cars but I really enjoy the commentary.
Glad you enjoyed! definitely more to come!
In order to fit the 440 in the dart body, the exhaust manifolds they had to use really restricted exhaust flow. So much so that a 340 Dart GT with a decent driver was often times faster than the 440 car.
Looks like the Ford had Holly carb which flows more fuel and better then the Edelbrock carb on the Cuda
I've noticed that the left lane on this track is generally the better lane for times. JMO.
The 390 wasn't a real big performer from the factory but being a FE it had a plethora of power options from the 428 and 427 engines .you could put together a 390 with off the shelf Ford parts that could rape just about anything it pulled up next to !!
Truth 👍
The Ford is two full seconds quicker than contemporary times. That’s some fine tuning, or something is amiss here. The Mopar is half a second quicker than contemporary times; easily achieved with fine tuning.
The rules allow up to a 0.070 overbore, which for the 390 would give it a 4.12 bore. The rules also allow non-numbers matching blocks, so in this case a 105 truck 390 block could be used, which can be bored up to .080 over. Not sure what the engine size would be, but this would make room for bigger valves if the rules allow it.
Just for reference: my 428 was bored 0.060 over to 439ci
FE is eating lunch!
Good Video I believe that 1969 was the last year for the Barracuda name, after that they were called Cuda.
Barracuda still existed after that but was the low trim levels (6 cylinder, etc). thanks for watching 👍
If I had the choice I’d take the CUDA’ all day!
Both good cars
I'm a 60s guy and can tell kids now they haven't driven a real muscle car if it's not a big block!
I was pleasantly surprised here. The Cuda is lighter,more hp & torque, I figured it would take the win! Especially since both were autos!❤😎
good race!
4:11 gears won the race
probably helped!
I used to own a 67 GT Fairlane Divorce took it. Sure miss it.,
I would like to know if that Ford had any port and polishing done on those heads? Great video and some great racing!
With more farts and Booboorella, nice!
“Grab some tools and start banging”
I like the 64 Fairlane
Oh yeah, have you seen Ray Paquets 64 T-Bolt HighRiser that’s pulling almost 1000 hp from a 427 ci FE? SS/A. They finally made the Hemis run in their own class. There were some Ford guys trying to get the 427 SOHC in the same class, but NoHotRodsAlkowed said Hell NO! Lol
remember as a kid in the 70s riding in the back seat of my great aunts car. Exactly like the GTA only pea green
Best part of those fords was the new car smell thats about it. Yup gramma car.
I’ve watched a few videos here and never subbed, not intentionally. But man, all the farts in this triggered me to get it done!