I love seeing Matthias’ Failures, not because I’m a sadist, but because it really shows that you have to pay attention to every detail or something can go wrong, which happens to me all the time.
Brilliant. Thank you very much. I was considering to bend the backs of my boy's chairs with steam but was reluctant to mess with the water and build some kind of "steam box". Your method seems so much easier to do and the idea with the wedges is great. Makes for a much nicer join and comfortable seat. I'll definitely try that and am hoping to achieve just half as good a fit as yours :D
Your ingenuity is what impresses me the most. If you can’t make something from wood, then it can’t be made. Your dad would be very proud of all you’ve accomplished sir.
THANK YOU! I'mot going to make a silly smart assed comment stating the obvious concerning the bending method you used. What I appreciate is your sometimes unconventional approach to a procedure. I would have NEVER considered the oven but now there is a new arrow in my quiver for some projects. Thank you again.
Seeing the mistakes and other issues that crop up during the process are so helpful, especially with your explanation of what happened, why it did, and what you did to correct it. Thank you for showing these so we have an idea of ways to manage them if/when we run into similar problems.
Is this... is this really Matthias Wandel making furniture again? I can't believe it is true. Please pinch me! These are the videos I like the most. Especially with this great outcome. I just can hope the rest of the chair follows soon. Can't wait. Regards, Etna.
In 1990 my daughter got an American Girl doll for Christmas and then wanted the accessories to match, one of which was a bow top trunk that also held a bed and had room for clothes. We could not afford it at over $200 so I built it out of 1/4 inch birch ply. To make the bow top I heated the plywood in the oven and then quickly clamped it to a form. She still has the doll, the trunk, and all of the original clothes.
Very nice job! But when you reached in and grabbed that splintered wood at 3:39, with the spinning router bit just inches from your fingers, that made me wince.
Brilliant idea of using the oven. I would've burned down my house! I hate those days when all forces are working against you, but you're an expert now!
Watch out, Matt Cremona, looks like you've got competition! 😄 Seriously, this is fascinating; I had no idea you could just bake wood into curves like that. Have you tried with different species? Definitely lots of challenges overcome in this one!
Watching my friend Pat bend ukulele sides, it's mostly just a matter of getting the wood hot enough long enough. But I don't know if stuff like spruce would work for this.
Matthias Wandel Just wanted to let you know how much I love your videos. I think I’ve watched all of them about a hundred times. Really helps to pass the time during this crappy situation we are going through. You have given me a lot of ideas that have helped me in my own shop. Hope you and your family are staying safe and healthy. Please keep the videos coming.
It's good to see someone with such experience going through the process which is so familiar to myself - like thirty silly mistakes in a row lmao. It gives me hope.
@@johnvidal70 You and me have a very different definition of "hack". I've been a carpenter for almost 30 years and I'm VERY good at what I do. Wandel makes me look like the village simpleton. He makes a lot of mistakes, but for every mistake he has 2 genius leaps of logic that more than make up for it.
The steam bag method is really cool, it's on a shipwrights UA-cam channel, you can bend the wood and clamp it to the shape while steaming it at the same time.
I've always wondered how tight of a bend radius you could get with these wood forming methods and if the spring-back varies between different types of wood
I'd like to see some strength test between wood bent to that shape and pieces cut out from a thicker block. I believe the bent ones would be stronger due to grain continuity, but the stress of bending might affect the result.
If your part demands a lot of strenght, your best approach will be to laminate many thinner plies of curved wood. That prevents a high stress and allows more strenght reserve for your loads.
The result looks good, but it seems like you could have sacrificed one of the bending forms as something to clamp it on while cutting the tenons. May have required a little belt sander adjustment of the form to account for the final sprung-back bend though.
What happened at 0:38 ? The board was feeding through on the final cut and suddenly the video cut forward a second or two. Was there some kickback or something edited out?
Been watching for years. Nice to see even the youube gods themselves are mere humans. Even Matthias makes mistakes and he NEVER makes an attemt to hide silly attempts. it is EASY to learn from MW's mistakes as he focuses pretty much everything on the mistakes and what could go wrong so it does not for you. .
It's definitely necessary to account for the spring back that you get when moulding parts to a curve like this. It's also common problem in carbon fibre composites processing of curved parts.
Tip for re-sawing using the table saw- use a blade with as few teeth as possible. If you can get away with the reduced diameter, an outside blade from a dado set is great. Reduced diameter means mower speed and higher torque, plus there’s usually fewer teeth.
Thank you for another great video and showing the process of that complex piece. Very inspiring. Certainly shows the utility of a pantorouter. Looks like you set the over to 300degF. Is that specific to the wood you're using?
@@Heraclitean ... want more steam? Soak the wood for a few hours or overnight. After cooking just shut the oven off and let it cool overnight so it's totally dry..
Some commenters are worried about the max thickness that can be curved. Others say a thick as that piece will be stressed too much. I believe that a probably faster and better curving could be achieved by laminating together two or more thinner plies, which would produce less stress, less spingback and an easier and faster bending. And by soaking into household diluted Ammonia, curving becomes easier. That procedure is used by consumated Aeromodellers for producing highly curved, strong thin and light structures for horizontal stabilizers and rudders.
I'm not sure I could get the bending results from our gas oven, as it has uneven heating all around. But that's definitely better than building a single purpose steam box for the job. I'll file that one into my hack-bank. Thanks!
Christ, the brain on this man. inspiring and daunting at the same time.
I love seeing Matthias’ Failures, not because I’m a sadist, but because it really shows that you have to pay attention to every detail or something can go wrong, which happens to me all the time.
You could try adding a small bowl of water to the oven so it's steamy inside. That might help the bending as then the oven doesn't dry out the wood.
Watching this make me understand why quality furniture is so expensive. Great work I must say!
Brilliant. Thank you very much. I was considering to bend the backs of my boy's chairs with steam but was reluctant to mess with the water and build some kind of "steam box". Your method seems so much easier to do and the idea with the wedges is great. Makes for a much nicer join and comfortable seat. I'll definitely try that and am hoping to achieve just half as good a fit as yours :D
This is one of the more relatable woodworking videos I've seen in a long time. Will have to try out the bending technique too!
Your ingenuity is what impresses me the most. If you can’t make something from wood, then it can’t be made.
Your dad would be very proud of all you’ve accomplished sir.
What you’ve accomplished over the years is really cool. I’m still in awe over the original pantorouter!
That oven has an awesome paint scheme.
Well done! Making chairs are by the hardest furnitures to manage.
THANK YOU!
I'mot going to make a silly smart assed comment stating the obvious concerning the bending method you used. What I appreciate is your sometimes unconventional approach to a procedure. I would have NEVER considered the oven but now there is a new arrow in my quiver for some projects. Thank you again.
Nice to meet you.I am Japanese.
Your technique is great.
I've learned a lot!
Everything I ever needed to know I learned from Matthias Wandel. Hero woodworking dude! Cheers, C.
Yeah any time I'm feeling particularly proud of how clever I am, watching this guy can humble me pretty quickly.
Seeing the mistakes and other issues that crop up during the process are so helpful, especially with your explanation of what happened, why it did, and what you did to correct it. Thank you for showing these so we have an idea of ways to manage them if/when we run into similar problems.
Baking and woodworking... multi-talented!
Thanks for showing the process in parts one and two and not just the third part where you had it all figured out!
Is this... is this really Matthias Wandel making furniture again? I can't believe it is true. Please pinch me!
These are the videos I like the most. Especially with this great outcome. I just can hope the rest of the chair follows soon. Can't wait.
Regards,
Etna.
Me too! Any time I build a table, I watch his videos on simple furniture construction. It's such a great resource.
Making furniture? No, baking actually.
*Pinches with a clamp
@@pandaguan * pinches with 30 clamps
Very nice to see you making these chairs... they're going to look great and I can't wait to see the finished the pieces !!!
Beautiful ! Your attention to accuracy is always a treat.
Looking forward to the finished product. -KJ
In 1990 my daughter got an American Girl doll for Christmas and then wanted the accessories to match, one of which was a bow top trunk that also held a bed and had room for clothes. We could not afford it at over $200 so I built it out of 1/4 inch birch ply. To make the bow top I heated the plywood in the oven and then quickly clamped it to a form. She still has the doll, the trunk, and all of the original clothes.
nicely done! I like all the mistakes presented, these are some priceless insights.
Great work Matthias! As always you are very clever and finding solutions to any obstacle! Great video also, Thanks for posting
Thats an interesting looking oven!
This should be the pantorouter channel as everything seems to evolve around having one nowadays 😄
Dry nice work. Your router jig is awesome!
Very nice job! But when you reached in and grabbed that splintered wood at 3:39, with the spinning router bit just inches from your fingers, that made me wince.
Yeah, router would have kicked it away anyway, so why bother risking some good fingers? Same with the loose clothing all the time...
At the Wandel family:
"Hey honey, what are you baking?"
"Oh just, you know, a chair..."
hmmmmmmmmm chair...yum.
That's going to need extra gravy :o)
That oven is spotless. Thus not a real oven :-)
Gotta admin when I saw decorative oak chair backs I immediately recalled your dads unfinished chairs. Nice one!
Always a joy to watch you work through the problems. Keep 'em coming.
Brilliant idea of using the oven. I would've burned down my house! I hate those days when all forces are working against you, but you're an expert now!
you can use your bending template to hold your piece in place.
Wow, making chairs is not for newbies. This is extremely impressive.
I don't have anything that thick. Immediately shows a very thick piece of wood. I love your vids matthias, I've learned a ton over the past few years.
I think he means no nice wood that thick. The one he made the template/form from looked like 2x material
he said "thick wood". Also, glad to hear I was not the alone when the cut immediately goes to a pile of adequately thicc specimens.
Yup im making a pantorouter next yup! The more, and more I see you use this, the more, and more I really want one.
You really impressed and surprised me with that oven trick. Now I want to figure out how I can make a set up for wood bigger than my oven.
You are always up to date with inventions 👍
Thank you so much
Матиас, больше 10 лет смотрю твой канал и всегда есть что нибудь интересное. Респект и благодарность 👍👍👍👍💯💯💯💯
That tenon jig is mind-blowing
Blimey! A clean oven! It's been a long time since I have seen one of those!
Watch out, Matt Cremona, looks like you've got competition! 😄 Seriously, this is fascinating; I had no idea you could just bake wood into curves like that. Have you tried with different species? Definitely lots of challenges overcome in this one!
Watching my friend Pat bend ukulele sides, it's mostly just a matter of getting the wood hot enough long enough. But I don't know if stuff like spruce would work for this.
Matthias Wandel Just wanted to let you know how much I love your videos. I think I’ve watched all of them about a hundred times. Really helps to pass the time during this crappy situation we are going through. You have given me a lot of ideas that have helped me in my own shop. Hope you and your family are staying safe and healthy. Please keep the videos coming.
if i remember correctly, evergreen species dont' take bends well
Glad to see you making videos again.
Extreme example of " improvise, adapt n overcome!" You got this!
W O W!!!!!!!!!!!
Awsome skills!
Thanks for sharing!
GWW... Ooouuuttt!!!
Always an education watching your vids! Nicely done.
Good to see new stuff from you. Good to see others do a bit of bumbling, too.
Mmmm, that smells good. What are we having for dinner?
Matt: ....A sit down dinner.
I'll let myself out.
Good pun! 😂🤣😂
So much fiber!
Something to chew on!
That was half-baked...
Pervert.
This is amazing work ! I could only dream of being this smart .
It's good to see someone with such experience going through the process which is so familiar to myself - like thirty silly mistakes in a row lmao. It gives me hope.
@@johnvidal70 You'll be respectful, or you'll be ignored.
@@johnvidal70 You and me have a very different definition of "hack". I've been a carpenter for almost 30 years and I'm VERY good at what I do. Wandel makes me look like the village simpleton. He makes a lot of mistakes, but for every mistake he has 2 genius leaps of logic that more than make up for it.
Wonderful to watch you working with wood ! 👍 👌
Nice!
Would the oven bending method work with plywood, or would the glue be a problem? (Maybe off-gasing if nothing else, I suppose....)
Love that vintage oven!
Love the oven trick... fool-proof, way easier and simpler than a steam chamber !
The steam bag method is really cool, it's on a shipwrights UA-cam channel, you can bend the wood and clamp it to the shape while steaming it at the same time.
Hardly ever see anyone use the method either, guess it's a secret.
All ways very good and different ideals.Great work
I've always wondered how tight of a bend radius you could get with these wood forming methods and if the spring-back varies between different types of wood
I'd like to see some strength test between wood bent to that shape and pieces cut out from a thicker block. I believe the bent ones would be stronger due to grain continuity, but the stress of bending might affect the result.
If your part demands a lot of strenght, your best approach will be to laminate many thinner plies of curved wood. That prevents a high stress and allows more strenght reserve for your loads.
Great episode!!!! Such a master craftsman.
Your dad would be extremely proud of you.
I just got recommended this channel video, and I was already subscribed, I have no idea when this happened
Could one use the bending form to help fixing the piece for the router?
Awesome! Really want to try this now...don't think i'll be allowed to use the oven like this tho...
Will there be a part two? Would love to see these finished. :)
Sehr schöne Arbeit! Gut durchdachte.
My house is full of Drywall screws as well. Such lovely screw design.. that sharp point... that bugle head...
The result looks good, but it seems like you could have sacrificed one of the bending forms as something to clamp it on while cutting the tenons. May have required a little belt sander adjustment of the form to account for the final sprung-back bend though.
It would have required a longer bending form
love the pantorouter!
V&E !! :: Vision and Energy is a joy to watch, and to be be educated and on a really good day to be inspired !!
Need a follow up with Mrs. Wandel's reaction to Matthias using her stove like this. :)
It's a stove in a kitchen in the basement that we never use.
@@matthiaswandel I love that you feel the need to explain that!
Is it the last remaining Coppertone stove in Canada?
nicktecky55 Lol
What happened at 0:38 ? The board was feeding through on the final cut and suddenly the video cut forward a second or two. Was there some kickback or something edited out?
just time edited out to keep the action moving.
@@matthiaswandel I would have rather seen it than have 1-second cut out in the middle of the feed. Seriously, 1 second???
Nice to see the extra basement kitchen isn't going to waste
Always so much great information and technique
Excelente saludos desde Panama city..¿que madera utilizo para hacer las curvas? Gracias
Been watching for years. Nice to see even the youube gods themselves are mere humans. Even Matthias makes mistakes and he NEVER makes an attemt to hide silly attempts. it is EASY to learn from MW's mistakes as he focuses pretty much everything on the mistakes and what could go wrong so it does not for you. .
It's definitely necessary to account for the spring back that you get when moulding parts to a curve like this. It's also common problem in carbon fibre composites processing of curved parts.
Very cool, I never realized tensions built up in carbon. Thanks for sharing.
Have you thought about adding a pan of water to the oven so the wood gets steamed more?
No. I was going well above the boiling point, so the water would be gone anyway.
Would it not tend to steam-bend the form?
Amazing. Good job 👍
Parabens so ferramentas top
Thank you for sharing your problem-solving technics. It's really interesting to see how you solve issues and bypass difficulties. Again thank you 🙏
You should definitely try a spiral bit, it would reduce a lot of that vibration
Tip for re-sawing using the table saw- use a blade with as few teeth as possible. If you can get away with the reduced diameter, an outside blade from a dado set is great. Reduced diameter means mower speed and higher torque, plus there’s usually fewer teeth.
Always great to see your inventiveness and a delight to see you work with your homemade tools :)
Thank you for another great video and showing the process of that complex piece. Very inspiring. Certainly shows the utility of a pantorouter.
Looks like you set the over to 300degF. Is that specific to the wood you're using?
Just a guess.
I thought more steam would be necessary for something like this, or is the wood moisture high enough?
It's about raising the temperature of the wood. Steam is just a convenient way to do that in many situations.
@@Heraclitean ... want more steam? Soak the wood for a few hours or overnight. After cooking just shut the oven off and let it cool overnight so it's totally dry..
Этому мастеру 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Omg.. that makes life so much easier... cheers frim brazil
Some commenters are worried about the max thickness that can be curved. Others say a thick as that piece will be stressed too much.
I believe that a probably faster and better curving could be achieved by laminating together two or more thinner plies, which would produce less stress, less spingback and an easier and faster bending. And by soaking into household diluted Ammonia, curving becomes easier. That procedure is used by consumated Aeromodellers for producing highly curved, strong thin and light structures for horizontal stabilizers and rudders.
Interesting. How long do they soak in ammonia for? I assume that the ammonia loosens the bonds between the grain, much like with hair being permed.
This procedure works, no lamination, no ammonia required. Perhaps in your world more work is easier and faster, but not in mine.
Terrific results from the oven! How hot did you set the oven?
read linked article or watch the video.
I'm a simple man, I see a Matthias Wandel video, I like it.
Woodbending, the lost bending form avatars couldn't master
That's a cool old oven you got there
Your a beast!!! I learned something new today. Good job.
Been waiting over 9 years for you to build those chairs!
Amazing setup I want something similar. Beautiful mind✨
This video taught me that curved pieces are more trouble than they're worth.
Чудесные изделия!!!))
Great, bakery Wandel. Tasty wood cookie. I'll try too.
Greetings Thomas
Don't you love figuring out the process somewhere in the middle of doing the last iteration of work? I know I do!
Love it, there is always a way to do something when you may Not have the easy tools to do it.🙂❤🙂
chisels, sanding block, a rasp
Would it have been worth doing the milling and joinery before heating the pieces up in the oven?
That would make it hard to get the alignment right. Plus, with the extra bits I glued on, that glue joint would have failed in the oven.
I'm not sure I could get the bending results from our gas oven, as it has uneven heating all around. But that's definitely better than building a single purpose steam box for the job. I'll file that one into my hack-bank. Thanks!
I think you are a real scientist.
Very good work.