@@samuelhagberg3694 the way it’s implied I think red mantle owns the house, but since they’re conjoined I like to think they sold their all their assets old assets and bought a really nice house together
On the contrary, I would imagine that if your profession would be trying to kill each other then outliving your coworkers would be a source of pride and joy.
Red mantle and Dragoon could fight both Radical Left and Right Wing. You know connect the "good guys" and the bad guys which is actually who I rooting for. I guess earth and lava manipulation. It's good it's Red mantles body not Dragoons.
Me:Two heads are better than one Inner me: what does that have anything to do with what we saw Me: i was tired of waiting for a fucking opportunity to happen Also my top 10 favorite venture bro characters
To be fair to them earning the badge of “oldest men in the proffesion where men die young” is pretty dope no matter the circumstances. This was like an achievement award with no show. And at their age that probably feels pretty great.
@@sudanemamimikiki1527 it's implied these two are Buddy Holly and Big Bopper, who did not die in a plane crash as in our timeline because they were convinced to join a new group band and then becoming villains. They would be 82 and 88 at the time this episode released (which was 2018). Red Death is supposedly about 73
Not only that, but we know that Dragoon could keep kicking asses before he got decapitated (he tanked a Phantom Limb attack while wrestling him) @@fireblast133
These guys were rank 10... Even in their old age they were still on the council separately. They were founding members sure but they were still powerful enough to command respect. Even when they were attached to each other they showed competence and ability enough to stay on the council.
While it is certainly possible that Desmond is dead, I wonder if he might have been otherwise disqualified. Other's have already pointed out his health and mental state or the fact that there is a new Captain Sunshine but I think it is also possible that his time as Zeus disqualified him. He (briefly) turned himself into a villain and not just a villain but one working without guild authorization.
With the exception of Wide Whale, none of the arches were mostly played for laughs with all of the arches either having a game night or just catching up with an old frenemy. Even if Desmond is still alive and (semi) eligible, I think that this is still the funniest thing they could have done.
@@ianfinrir8724 probably, but Dr. Z's final arch was in rehab (which almost certainly violated at least one of the Guild's rules pertaining to medical treatment).
If this really was a way to hint at us that Desmond died then someone should probably go check up on Captain Sunshine. Guy lost his Wonder Boy, Villain, and now his Butler.
It does make you wonder if they found Downton Abbey together of if one won the other over to it. From Red Mantle's enthusiasm, I'd wager it was him~ I used to house-care for an old man kind of like him, big 'ol nice house too, and when I'd sit up and listen to his stories about life as a key-maker who was in a couple wars in his time, I'd picture Dragoon's big-ass melon on his shoulder from time to time. He was a charming fella.
Wouldn't that technically become a conflict of interest, giving that mantle and the triad are in the same magic sect circa the Halloween episode? At the least, master would probably have to step in and mediate some ground rules so they don't get to the legal murder level Or maybe he wouldn't care, but it seems like something he'd take a close eye on
These two are absolutely my favorite character(s) on the show! They make me want to taunt them because their trousers are out of fashion! How many people know they were originally Buddy Holly and Big Bopper?
I love the New York and New Jersey references during last few seasons/episodes. I actually live 20 minutes or so from the mansion The Monarch got from his father. It’s actually a famous building. I also live another 20-30 min from NYC including the area most of the show takes place in.
YES!!! I finally found this clip!! I literally woke the whole house up in the middle of the night dying of laughter at all the “Al frome Home Improvement” references.
JohnnyGarland Desmond (the orginal Captain Sunshine) hasn't been seen since the reaveal he was the orignal captain sunshine (Season 4) and he was very hurt chances are he may have not lived long after that so it is possible.
@@ColonelBragg I don't know Novia seemed to be on a whole different life then from her previous life when she arch Dr. Mrs. the Monarch in her solo days plus Johnny is clearly out of the boy adventuer life so retirement isn't really a factor for these final archs.
@@blackdemonknight Yeah but the old captain sunshine is super old but also screwing with him would mean screwing with the current captain sunshine too since he is his butler
Do they both really need to eat? They share the same stomach so do they just eat half a meal each and put the rest in the fridge when their done? This honestly has me curious
@@CreamTheEverythingFixer Yeah having two heads that function independantly would eat up a lot of the body's nutrients. Especially since Dragoon has control over the arm he's on meaning that's more energy expended.
I always thought that was a funny bit of lore, but it makes me wonder about what Waylon Jennings life in the venture brothers universe was like, did he know his friends survived or did they just let him feel miserable about the whole thing for years while playing the hero/villain game...
@@milesgerschefske6231 that is a good question, i think maybe after they got more freedom to move around after the whole kidnapping thing i would hope they let him know. But man that is a real mindfuck because i can totally see them just doing that since its so on-par for venture bros as a whole.
These two slowly became my favorite character over the course of seasons 6 and 7. They really come around to each other and they seem to enjoy each others company. Plus this was the best way they could have done their final arch. It makes perfect sense that ALL of their previous arches are fuckin dead.
I dunno if these guys raised rusty he might have ended up as a well adjusted human being. Any guy might be a better parent than Dr. Jonas Venture at this point in time.
Well, Zero definitely punched him hard enough, but he could be disqualified based on his mental state, physical state (last we saw he was very bloody), the fact he temporarily was a non-Guild villain...or the fact he's not a hero any more. They did say used to, it's possible he retired.
Was the letter more for those who acted as long time arches? I don't think Desmond/OG Captain Sunshine is dead, considering it was never mentioned (though if he was considered, this would be the mention). Isn't Doctor Mrs. The Monarch's arch a woman who is now a villain?
hey i was wondering why didn't they ever get dragoon a clone body or a robot body i mean they have the tech was it cause invisible hand had the heads and its too late to give them a new body
lil queso Nope just old friends did you not watch this video? Not only do they have the hots for the downton abbey bitch, but Red Mantle also dated Reduca.
Aren't they already retired? You know, because they were already Council Members from the days of the Sovereign? Or did their spat with the Revenge Society make them active arches again?
OK. I wasn't sure because the reason they had these 'final arches' was a rule Dr. Mrs. found that said you can't be an active villain on the council. Of course, the Sovereign could have ignored that one, too.
@@zachwillett5853It wasn’t a rule of the old council, it’s a rule for the new council because it’s smaller and there’s no Sovereign so all members have to be full time councillors.
@@josealbarranroque9147 I think so yes, unless she was doing something underhanded, so part of a "job", I do not think there is a reason to consider her as still active, if so Desmond might be dead sadly perhaps due the rough handling he took from Zero.
![Best of Red Mantle and Dragoon [Venture Bros]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/vhF7nFL0oLw/mqdefault.jpg)
For a couple of elderly professional villains, they sure are likeable. Even their house looks homey.
Like a trip to grandpa's house
I wonder which one was owned the house before they were stuck together
@@samuelhagberg3694 yes
@@samuelhagberg3694 the way it’s implied I think red mantle owns the house, but since they’re conjoined I like to think they sold their all their assets old assets and bought a really nice house together
@@silverdays2909 If grandpa was a remorseless killer with a scrapbook full of dead victims.
Don't go looking in his closet.
"As if we have any other options besides double teaming her", these two get the best lines of the show.
I know it was played for laughs, but there has to be a sense of regret that you've outlived anyone that has known you on a professional level.
I mean, there's still each other and red death, they just outlived the heroes, could still be some retired henchmen too
I'm fairly certain that TripleThreat thwarted one or more sinister plan, but she was so good the Guild didn't notice.
I like the theory that Ward and Watch purposefully ignored a few people because they didn’t want Red Dragoon to go through the at their age
On the contrary, I would imagine that if your profession would be trying to kill each other then outliving your coworkers would be a source of pride and joy.
That was actually a scene from the Watchman comic book, when an elderly Molock put flowers on the grave of the Comedian, a former hated enemy......
"The guy from Home Improvement really dodged a bullet tonight, eh" is one of my favourite quotes from the whole series.
Totally could have kicked Al’s fat ass
Red mantle and Dragoon could fight both Radical Left and Right Wing.
You know connect the "good guys" and the bad guys which is actually who I rooting for.
I guess earth and lava manipulation. It's good it's Red mantles body not Dragoons.
Aww, at first they were at each other’s throat, now look at them.
Inseparable
Ben Tutt Literally.
Spenser Farman Goddamn it I was about to say that
Too slow, pal! Too slow!
@@spenserfarman3045 you are evil good sire.
Gotta appreciate how they weren't sad their arches were dead but happy they outlived them all
Victory by default, the sweetest kind of victory.
Good see they finally get along
Made me think of the Step Brothers movie when they realized they had stuff in common.
Jarrod Aruseanoex I guess when your heads are literally sewed together you kinda have to eventually.
It's been a good couple years.
Me:Two heads are better than one
Inner me: what does that have anything to do with what we saw
Me: i was tired of waiting for a fucking opportunity to happen
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@@jrickducking6685 smart
To be fair to them earning the badge of “oldest men in the proffesion where men die young” is pretty dope no matter the circumstances. This was like an achievement award with no show. And at their age that probably feels pretty great.
pretty sure red death is actually older than the two of them.
@@sudanemamimikiki1527 it's implied these two are Buddy Holly and Big Bopper, who did not die in a plane crash as in our timeline because they were convinced to join a new group band and then becoming villains. They would be 82 and 88 at the time this episode released (which was 2018).
Red Death is supposedly about 73
Not only that, but we know that Dragoon could keep kicking asses before he got decapitated (he tanked a Phantom Limb attack while wrestling him) @@fireblast133
Their situation is kind of envious. Old people often get so lonely.
It has its ups and downs i guess
They arent alone though.
jeremy hearne that’s the point, most of the time old people tend to be lonely. However since they’re attached they will never really be lonely
Thing is, they don't die alone either
Two Heads are better than one!
1:19 pacifist run in any game
I love the moments with red mantle and dragoon they are hysterical old coots
They’re like if magneto and vulture were in they’re situation.
I read it as, " ..they are *historical* old coots"
But I re-read... I'm not sure which I like more..
Its funny cause I really could see Dragoon whooping one of his arches' ass if he still had his body
Huh, I thought their names were reversed.
In fairness, he DID have some fight left in him before he...yanno, had to be spliced.
He was definitely kicking Phantom Limb’s ass before the death touch
@@nidhogg8446 yeah I think he threw him through a wall
These guys were rank 10... Even in their old age they were still on the council separately. They were founding members sure but they were still powerful enough to command respect. Even when they were attached to each other they showed competence and ability enough to stay on the council.
1:19 When you’re old and get the info that you outlived all your bullies from school.
While it is certainly possible that Desmond is dead, I wonder if he might have been otherwise disqualified. Other's have already pointed out his health and mental state or the fact that there is a new Captain Sunshine but I think it is also possible that his time as Zeus disqualified him. He (briefly) turned himself into a villain and not just a villain but one working without guild authorization.
With the exception of Wide Whale, none of the arches were mostly played for laughs with all of the arches either having a game night or just catching up with an old frenemy. Even if Desmond is still alive and (semi) eligible, I think that this is still the funniest thing they could have done.
Wouldn't Desmond being retired mean he's not eligible to be arched?
@@ianfinrir8724 probably, but Dr. Z's final arch was in rehab (which almost certainly violated at least one of the Guild's rules pertaining to medical treatment).
@@nicholasfarrell5981 I think they knew Dr. Z wouldn't truly arch Johnny.
If this really was a way to hint at us that Desmond died then someone should probably go check up on Captain Sunshine. Guy lost his Wonder Boy, Villain, and now his Butler.
It does make you wonder if they found Downton Abbey together of if one won the other over to it. From Red Mantle's enthusiasm, I'd wager it was him~ I used to house-care for an old man kind of like him, big 'ol nice house too, and when I'd sit up and listen to his stories about life as a key-maker who was in a couple wars in his time, I'd picture Dragoon's big-ass melon on his shoulder from time to time. He was a charming fella.
This show is like the Mass Effect of television, every character is awesome.
I want be just like them when I grow up, outliving everyone that I hate. But no extra head on my body.
Nah, watch everyone around you wither and die?? Eternal life is some of the last wishes I'd make.
Personally I think the handyman could take them. He has tools.
Legit al can take him
Red Mantle has all sorts of crazy magic powers, though.
He *could* take them, but he wouldn't!
Y'know who'd these guys would be a great arch for?
Dr. Orpheus and the order of the Triad
Roll on season 8
Wouldn't that technically become a conflict of interest, giving that mantle and the triad are in the same magic sect circa the Halloween episode? At the least, master would probably have to step in and mediate some ground rules so they don't get to the legal murder level
Or maybe he wouldn't care, but it seems like something he'd take a close eye on
@@gapquation8577 Hell, conflict of interest is why they're supposed to be setting aside their arching once and for all
These two are absolutely my favorite character(s) on the show! They make me want to taunt them because their trousers are out of fashion! How many people know they were originally Buddy Holly and Big Bopper?
Red Dragoon's Mansion is modeled after a home in Bay Ridge, Brooklyn.
This show is gold to any New Yorker!
I love the New York and New Jersey references during last few seasons/episodes. I actually live 20 minutes or so from the mansion The Monarch got from his father. It’s actually a famous building. I also live another 20-30 min from NYC including the area most of the show takes place in.
YES!!! I finally found this clip!! I literally woke the whole house up in the middle of the night dying of laughter at all the “Al frome Home Improvement” references.
“Commander ruined” sounds like a super villain name then a hero
Their reaction to Matthew's death was totally mine
Attrition at its finest.
Wait, is the original Captain Sunshine dead?
That's what I'm wondering!
JohnnyGarland Desmond (the orginal Captain Sunshine) hasn't been seen since the reaveal he was the orignal captain sunshine (Season 4) and he was very hurt chances are he may have not lived long after that so it is possible.
I think he wasn't on the list because hes retired and passed the captain sunshine mantle on
@@ColonelBragg I don't know Novia seemed to be on a whole different life then from her previous life when she arch Dr. Mrs. the Monarch in her solo days plus Johnny is clearly out of the boy adventuer life so retirement isn't really a factor for these final archs.
@@blackdemonknight Yeah but the old captain sunshine is super old but also screwing with him would mean screwing with the current captain sunshine too since he is his butler
Dinner and another episode of Downtenn Abbey!
After that, I'm oddly happy for them.
It’s sad to think that captain “Desmond” sunshine is dead
Do they both really need to eat? They share the same stomach so do they just eat half a meal each and put the rest in the fridge when their done? This honestly has me curious
Taste food and feel the liquids you drink :p
That's the best part of life
I do you one better
If one want to take a shit or leak but the other doesn't
Do they still do it or nah
Well having two whole brains to compensate for must mean they must need a lot of energy. Not to mention Red Mantle's body is like 70-80 years old
@@CreamTheEverythingFixer Yeah having two heads that function independantly would eat up a lot of the body's nutrients. Especially since Dragoon has control over the arm he's on meaning that's more energy expended.
Buddy Holly and the Big bopper ladies and gentlemen
I always thought that was a funny bit of lore, but it makes me wonder about what Waylon Jennings life in the venture brothers universe was like, did he know his friends survived or did they just let him feel miserable about the whole thing for years while playing the hero/villain game...
@@milesgerschefske6231 that is a good question, i think maybe after they got more freedom to move around after the whole kidnapping thing i would hope they let him know. But man that is a real mindfuck because i can totally see them just doing that since its so on-par for venture bros as a whole.
“The home improvement guy really dodged a bullet tonight!”
Al: "I don't think so, Tim."
Aww! They’re like an old married couple.
These two slowly became my favorite character over the course of seasons 6 and 7. They really come around to each other and they seem to enjoy each others company. Plus this was the best way they could have done their final arch. It makes perfect sense that ALL of their previous arches are fuckin dead.
I don't think so, Tim.
Rodrik of Harlaw Kinda wanna see a Richard Karn cameo at some point
@@ianfinrir8724 He does absolutely nothing else.
Well, no, I mean on this show
@@ianfinrir8724 That's what I mean. He does nothing else and something like the Venture Brothers would be a great job.
Arch Al from Home Improvement
"I have no enemies": Villain edition
I dunno if these guys raised rusty he might have ended up as a well adjusted human being.
Any guy might be a better parent than Dr. Jonas Venture at this point in time.
Waldorf and statler
Mama always said the best revenge is living well
I think Captain Shunshine was that knockoff of Batman and Superman voiced by non other than Adam West himself.
No he was voiced by Kevin Conroy, the main VA for Batman TAS.
Must be nice to get along so well with someone you were forced to share a body with.
They remind me of Statler and Woldorf (the two guys on the balcony) from the muppets
Lmao I now can’t unsee it
That is the utmost victory!
This was great but i kinda wanted to see how they would arch someone.
All this is missing is an inquisitive caveman grunt :D ...#IdontThinkSoTim
The only true way to seek vengeance is to live well.
It's the odd couple but sharing one body...
Technically they bested you by dying and hopefully spreading there genes and having a life. Than being alone unless they didn’t
This proves Desmond died.... Poor old Desmond.... Zero did more damage than people realize
Those guys are the ultimate dividual
I wish we could have seen a bit more of Red Mantle on his own.
Doesn't this mean Desmond is dead? After all Dragoon used to arch him in the 60s. I bet Captin Sunshine didn't take that too well
Well, Zero definitely punched him hard enough, but he could be disqualified based on his mental state, physical state (last we saw he was very bloody), the fact he temporarily was a non-Guild villain...or the fact he's not a hero any more. They did say used to, it's possible he retired.
Was the letter more for those who acted as long time arches? I don't think Desmond/OG Captain Sunshine is dead, considering it was never mentioned (though if he was considered, this would be the mention). Isn't Doctor Mrs. The Monarch's arch a woman who is now a villain?
1:28 You can hear the VA slip into Billy/21/Shore Leave here.
With how arching works in this universe, could they actually arch the Home Improvement Guy?
wholesome villainy
So I guess the original Captain Sunshine died off screen
Technically Snoopy from OSI is their last enemy.
This is my favorite couple
the Stradler and Waldorf of Supervillainy
did you... arch the guy from home improvement?
Guess poor Desmond didn't survive the beating from Henchman #1
While I am happy for them, one should never let an enemy outlive them, I am also sad that they might stuck this way for the a long time,
Poor Buddy Holly. He used to have a decent body by himself.
Yeah! Take that Al!
Why on Earth would they every wanna go after Richard Karn (Al)? The guy's a sweetheart!
That's exactly why they want it to be Al, because Al is a nice guy.
Fun Fact: These guys are based on Buddy Holly and The Big Bopper.
"Based on" nothing. They literally _are_ Buddy Holly and The Big Bopper (the whereabouts of Richie Valens is currently unknown)
Does that meat Desmond the original captain sunshine died?
Isn’t Old Captain Sunshine still alive?
I getting old and can relate winning last alive
Fucking Limb made buddy Holly and big bopper siamese twins.
Spoiler Alert
Matthew really is dead
hey i was wondering why didn't they ever get dragoon a clone body or a robot body i mean they have the tech was it cause invisible hand had the heads and its too late to give them a new body
They're gay for eachother
lil queso Nope just old friends did you not watch this video? Not only do they have the hots for the downton abbey bitch, but Red Mantle also dated Reduca.
They wouldn’t survive the procedure. The fact that they’re both alive is a miracle already considering how the head was attached.
@@lg6884 that is what i thought but i wasnt sure
At least they're into Downton and not Murder She Wrote or Dr. Sloane🤷🏼♂️🤓😎✌🏻
Did they connect the second head to the same stomach? Cuz lol where does the food he eats go?
We won ZULUL
What a pair of stooges
That means that the original Capt sunshine is dead?
...Wait, isn't Al still alive?
Yeah, but they never arched him.
Aren't they already retired? You know, because they were already Council Members from the days of the Sovereign? Or did their spat with the Revenge Society make them active arches again?
They were still technically active villains.
OK. I wasn't sure because the reason they had these 'final arches' was a rule Dr. Mrs. found that said you can't be an active villain on the council. Of course, the Sovereign could have ignored that one, too.
@@zachwillett5853It wasn’t a rule of the old council, it’s a rule for the new council because it’s smaller and there’s no Sovereign so all members have to be full time councillors.
Eating two meals on one stomach, I just don't understand why they aren't obese
The brain requires lots of calories.
If they puke? Do they both puke?
not unless they both get stomach issues. Dragon puked due to taking too much alcohol and got nauseas.
Captain Sunshine died? Poor guy
I think the original Sunshine might be still alive but since he has been retired he might not have considered a potential arc for their final rodeo.
@@g.sergiusfidenas6650 wasn't Novia also retired?
@@josealbarranroque9147 I think so yes, unless she was doing something underhanded, so part of a "job", I do not think there is a reason to consider her as still active, if so Desmond might be dead sadly perhaps due the rough handling he took from Zero.
knowing how Dragoon could almost single handily take down Phantom Limbs before his head got fused, I'd say they are a bit overreacting
yeah his strength didn't transfer over after his head got cut off and in terms of strength and speed Limb is just a regular human
Is the home improvement guy still alive?
Richard Karn? Yeah, he still lives apparently.
He does infomercials now.
good guy pieces of crap lol
The best old gay couple. (Yes I know they're not gay or a couple, but they have the vibe.)
This explains the long chick filet lines....
The perfect homage to Waldorf & Statler.