Tell Dave thanks for letting us watch him train, good stuff for those of us looking to get into the air again. I wish I was local so I could have you as a CFI.
You can thank me for the external mic socket for the Contour camera. That was my invention. I hacked an earlier version way back in 2009-2010. I posted pictures and videos of my mod back to Contour and they liked it so much they put it on their next models .....and sent me a free Contour as a thank you. True story. I love seeing the instruction and progression. Nice. Intercom is nice and clear too.
I value your videos and thank you for your hard work putting them together. I learn so much because of the way that you describe and explain how to fly a microlight. Dave and Vicky are doing so well. Keep up the good work and if any of you ever wants to visit New Zealand, we are happy to accommodate you. Great looking plane.
That plane looks to of turned out fantastic! I really like that color scheme a lot. I can’t wait to see all of you guys and of course the talented lady, all flying together in formation during magic hour on some epic adventure someday!🤗
That was an excellent and interesting tour and lesson. Now I want to learn especially as I could have an instructor in a two seater so as to get used to the microlight type of craft! Thank you, perhaps now I will have a flying dream? SkipRay, Kerry, Ireland.
Hawk is my favorite ultralight design and that one is a beauty. Matt - you are a great teacher btw. It's also nice to teach someone on their own plane because if they break it's their problem.
Good Job on the landings and the refurbishing of the Hawk Dave !! Matt you are a great instructor buddy keep up the good work building the ultralight community.. Down River Tim (Oak Point Area)
It was fun flying with you guys especially in the Hawk which I have a very soft spot for. I was The #2 man in a 3-man team that built one in 1984 (Pickering ON Can). It was a very gratifying project especially when our test pilot lifted off after only runs on a grass field. He was very impressed at how well balanced it felt without any trims.
A great way to help with radio communications (my instructor taught me this)...Woodstock traffic - who you are - where you are - what you want to do - Woodstock. No matter what portion of flight (or ground for that matter) you always say who you are, where you are, and what you want to do. It simplifies everything for the nervous pilot who has his hands full of airplane. :-)
Awesome everything! Dave I was sweating, sitting in my chair, 10k miles away. I had forearm pump, just like you :), squeezing my mouse! Just watched you solo on another video so I know all's good!!!
I would suggest moving the fuel pump higher than the pulsation port as it could be filled with gas and oil after a while and you do not any more engine problems
Great video Matt, ! I would love to have a instructor like yourself one day! I love that plane as well. Need to look up the load though to see if me and my son would fit! LoL Blessings to ya !
Hirth doesn't have a great reputation for reliability but like anything, a lot of that comes down to how you maintain it. It weighs about the same as a Rotax 503 but puts out the power of a Rotax 582.
I like this airplane. I often wanted to close in my aerolite 103 like this but too afraid it might make it handle funny.. sure would be nice on cold days and itd be easy to duct in warm air off the air cooled engine.
I have flown a few different planes that have the option of an enclosure and you're right, adding doors does affect the handling characteristics; most notably in the yaw axis. The extra vertical surface from the enclosure ahead of the CG offsets the effectiveness of the vertical stabilizer meaning that you're a little less stable. Most planes handle it safely just fine.... but I wouldn't recommend trying it unless you check with the designer first - unless you're an aircraft design engineer. lol
My Dad sold an assembled this type for his customers also flight time in such , that was i n the early 1980, non two place airframes in that era , I have several hours in them , Loved it all ..
mmatt You shouldnt and your great at imparting the fun upbeat attitude but others let their frustrations show which places undue stress on the student even to the point they lose their desire to go again, which the instructor then in turn says they didnt really have it in them to become a pilot in the first place. Not naming anyone...
Good work, men! Another fine pilot is in the making! Does he have cabin heat, Matt? And he is an advanced ultralight with that rig, I'm guessing? Fly safe you guys!
Good work keeping Dave on point and being positive, very hard in those sort of conditions. SOunds like he needs to look at those brakes though! I take it you didn't use flaps for the landing due to the crosswind, to help keep energy and for ease of a go around, the same as I do on my plane?
We were just starting to introduce the concept of flaps at this stage of his training. Up until this point, we didn't use them at all since we don't need them for a runway this long. Now we use them for all take offs and landings in preparation for using his airstrip at home which is much shorter.
@@mmatt I assumed the something similar. Keeping the process of landing simple until the process becomes natural, before introducing another thing on the check list.
Nice video. Why do you use flaps on takeoff, but not on touch n go”s ?
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🔹🔹 And useful load ? What kind of fuel. Rotate speed,, stall,, ..... engine would look nicer anodized ,,don't you think? Ancient antiques , so what are you doing about recommendations for engine safety upgrades ? different features on the engine .. keeping an eye on any information? Thanks
He said the engine has been rebuilt and a lot of the problems with it and the gearbox are gone He will have to upgrade at some point, but if it works and they are happy with it, fly it.
In Canada, the Hawk is considered an ultralight. In the US though, ultralights can only have only one seat, weigh less than 254 lbs, carry only 5 gallons of fuel, have a stall speed of less than 28 mph, and a top speed of 63 mph.
Great video! Glad to see you guys flying in that weather, good training for when it happens in “real life”. Nice Hawk you have there! What size tires are you using? They look a bit bigger than the ones on my Hawk, like that nose wheel too! Blue skies guys!
large trim compensators will induce flapping, please remove or reduce their size, I had a cgs hwk years ago and I had very uncomfortable experience with putting a large trim compensator.
One really doesn't need to joke about having to make emergency landings. while it's always a relief when you walk away from one, I'm not sure that I would boast on an airplane that has many engine failures.
So is a license required in this plane for the average flyer or is the 2nd seat only for teaching? Don't worry, I know nothing, nada, zero, zip, nor zilch about these things but am curious? I hear the weight of 254lbs as part of the restriction but IDKnow so I'm out here watching, learning, and asking these dumb questions. Thanks for the video
Chinook's have a similar tail curve. The other plane manufacturer says the curve gets it up/flying faster. I thought this design was owned by the same people but now I'm more confused. But the Chinook owner/builder claims that their plane lifts on it's own power w/o the need to pull back & that it continues rising until you adjust the speed you want to travel, then it doesn't lift w/o you wanting it to life. They said this is due to the curved shape of the pipe body and the higher tail piece. Me, it makes sense if they say so & I like the style of plane. peace
Legal ha algum tempo procuro algo sobre este modelo tenho um monoplace só mais antigo,o antigo proprietário não tem a papelada dele não sei nem o modelo para documentar ele alguem pode me ajudar...
Not really, no. Flaps are primarily used to make steeper approaches without building up airspeed. They usually create more drag than lift. With a new pilot, we'd rather have a shallow approach so the transition from the descent into the flare and touchdown is easier.
I have no idea how dumbtube suggested your vid but I like it, ay. I have a question: why are the things that hold up the wings(struts?) not covered in the same fabric as the main wings so as to give more lift and there by be able to make the main wing shorter. At least covering the struts? would reduce drag and be cheaper that making those tubes tear shaped. Also why have you chosen a "rear" wing engine as opposed to a front "wing" engine? Is it easier to fly or is it able to carry more weight so as to be able to be piloted by a 275 pound fat ass like me ( that's about 135 of those Canadian pounds, I think you call them key-loads, yea that's it). I need as much key-loads as I can get if I am going to fly and not just fall slowly. And may I ask a personal question: what would this cost AND what were you able to tell your wife, girlfriend, boyfriend, significant other, extraterritorial love slave, etc...that it cost so as to keep them from dropping you like a hot rock and leaving you on the spot? (i have heard you Canadians are kinda' kinky so I tried to be as inclusive as I could) Okay! I might have a passing interest in flying. So...how much for the plane.....? (i really like the plane and this is a well done video. Thank you)
Probably because you'd lose a lot of visibility if you designed the wing geometry like that plus having the supporting wing at such an angle wouldn't produce as much lift as it would drag. Interesting idea though. The rear mounted engine allows for much better visibility and a much lower chance of a prop strike. Cost for these plane vary wildly depending on many factors. Anywhere from $10K - $60K+ Operating costs are quite low though. They use car gas and burn about 5 gallons per hour. Insurance up here is only about $150 / year and then if you keep it at an airport, you'll have airport and hangar fees.
@@mmatt thank you mmatt, you are very kind to respond. I have wanted to fly since I was 12 and at 60 its time to put up or shut up. I really weigh about 230lbs ,when you gas up and put just a small carry along, I have until recently, exceed most all of the weight limit's of these small planes. But lately, they appear to be stronger built and more powerful. And now with it being common to have airlirons AND flaps, well I think it is time. So mmatt let me ask and there is no hurry to respond, if you we're beginning today to learn to fly, and time was not a problem But only had $25,000 you could spend, where would you start. Is that really even enough money to be able to learn to fly and also own a plane powerful enough to carry one ( wife said, and I quote, "oh, he'll no, I will never fly with you, forget it",) plus a set of golf clubs and a full tank of gas? Mmatt thanks again and I do really like the plane that was in the video, it seems just about the right power with a good cruise speed and also "easy" to fly characteristics. Be safe and be blessed
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I flew a Hawk Classic for 14years and around 1500hr Loved that plane
Thanks guys. Feels like I am almost in the pilots seat, practicing.
Tell Dave thanks for letting us watch him train, good stuff for those of us looking to get into the air again. I wish I was local so I could have you as a CFI.
You can thank me for the external mic socket for the Contour camera. That was my invention. I hacked an earlier version way back in 2009-2010. I posted pictures and videos of my mod back to Contour and they liked it so much they put it on their next models .....and sent me a free Contour as a thank you. True story.
I love seeing the instruction and progression. Nice.
Intercom is nice and clear too.
Seriously? That's pretty cool! I wish all camera's had that feature.
@@mmatt Give me 5 mins I'll find the demo video.
Check your email Matt
@@mmatt You don''t notice it, until the last little bit of the video where you hear the normal interior mic and realise how bad they were.sourdo
Very well done, Dave. Both on rebuilding a beautiful Hawk and on your flying despite the winds. Looking forward to seeing more of the Hawk! Cheers!
Fantastic rebuild job!
Matt, your an excellent instructor...
seriously, if I knew he was local I would hire him and go back to finish my license
That hawk is a really nice plane, nice job Dave.
I value your videos and thank you for your hard work putting them together. I learn so much because of the way that you describe and explain how to fly a microlight. Dave and Vicky are doing so well. Keep up the good work and if any of you ever wants to visit New Zealand, we are happy to accommodate you. Great looking plane.
You have one sweet sounding engine. It doesn't miss a beat!
Agree the engine sounds very smooth!!
That plane looks to of turned out fantastic! I really like that color scheme a lot. I can’t wait to see all of you guys and of course the talented lady, all flying together in formation during magic hour on some epic adventure someday!🤗
I'm waiting for that day too. Should be an great video. :-)
That was an excellent and interesting tour and lesson. Now I want to learn especially as I could have an instructor in a two seater so as to get used to the microlight type of craft! Thank you, perhaps now I will have a flying dream? SkipRay, Kerry, Ireland.
Hawk is my favorite ultralight design and that one is a beauty. Matt - you are a great teacher btw. It's also nice to teach someone on their own plane because if they break it's their problem.
Good Job on the landings and the refurbishing of the Hawk Dave !! Matt you are a great instructor buddy keep up the good work building the ultralight community.. Down River Tim (Oak Point Area)
It was fun flying with you guys especially in the Hawk which I have a very soft spot for. I was The #2 man in a 3-man team that built one in 1984 (Pickering ON Can). It was a very gratifying project especially when our test pilot lifted off after only runs on a grass field. He was very impressed at how well balanced it felt without any trims.
They are a very nice flying plane. :-)
Sweet set up! Woodstock
That looked so much fun, so jealous...Nice sounding engine and excellent video..
Fantastic video! My father Chuck would have enjoyed watching!
Thanks for sharing!
Training videos are my favorite! Especially when paired with the CGS Hawk. 👍🏻👍🏻
Too bad we can’t have these in the States! Dang!
@@anthonyhunt701 They are made in Florida and are currently available. www.cgsaviation.com/cgs-hawk-arrow-ii-two-seater-plane.html
Anthony hunt we definitely have these in the states and they are popular here.
A great way to help with radio communications (my instructor taught me this)...Woodstock traffic - who you are - where you are - what you want to do - Woodstock. No matter what portion of flight (or ground for that matter) you always say who you are, where you are, and what you want to do. It simplifies everything for the nervous pilot who has his hands full of airplane. :-)
Great video though. I enjoy watching you guys fly
Awesome everything! Dave I was sweating, sitting in my chair, 10k miles away. I had forearm pump, just like you :), squeezing my mouse! Just watched you solo on another video so I know all's good!!!
excellent IP ......excellent student pilot. Thanks
I would suggest moving the fuel pump higher than the pulsation port as it could be filled with gas and oil after a while and you do not any more engine problems
That looks like a lot of fun Great job 👍
Just started using my flaps. Makes a big difference. Jumps off the ground and lands like a feather.
Great instruction, great learning.
Great video Matt, ! I would love to have a instructor like yourself one day! I love that plane as well. Need to look up the load though to see if me and my son would fit! LoL Blessings to ya !
Thanks for this, really interesting, particularly the quick chat on the engine. Would be interest to hear a comparison to the equivalent rotax
Hirth doesn't have a great reputation for reliability but like anything, a lot of that comes down to how you maintain it. It weighs about the same as a Rotax 503 but puts out the power of a Rotax 582.
mmatt many thanks, seems to have the same rep as the Jab engine here.
It doesn't compare to the rotax.
I like this airplane. I often wanted to close in my aerolite 103 like this but too afraid it might make it handle funny.. sure would be nice on cold days and itd be easy to duct in warm air off the air cooled engine.
I have flown a few different planes that have the option of an enclosure and you're right, adding doors does affect the handling characteristics; most notably in the yaw axis. The extra vertical surface from the enclosure ahead of the CG offsets the effectiveness of the vertical stabilizer meaning that you're a little less stable. Most planes handle it safely just fine.... but I wouldn't recommend trying it unless you check with the designer first - unless you're an aircraft design engineer. lol
That front tire looks just like the wheel I just bought to replace my wheel barrow tire.
That looks like a lot of fun. Makes me want to learn to fly.
I love this aircraft. Thanks for doing a vid on it!
Great job Dave and Matt. Just started flying mine too. Love those colors.
My Dad sold an assembled this type for his customers also flight time in such , that was i n the early 1980, non two place airframes in that era , I have several hours in them , Loved it all ..
The pilot did excellent take offs and landings .4/24/2021
I’ve never seen a flying tent before 🤣. Fantastic.
Sometimes you camp and things get a bit windy
Dave your landings are good .matt is a good instructor to have . 8/21/2021
nice-looking plane love the colour
I didn’t see locknuts on the back of Dave’s prop or maybe it was the angle 👍
It's like a flying tent 😂
Well Matt your a lot more patient then my flying instructor was to me LOL!!
Learning to fly is supposed be fun. It takes time to learn a new skill so why should I get upset if someone doesn't get everything right immediately?
mmatt You shouldnt and your great at imparting the fun upbeat attitude but others let their frustrations show which places undue stress on the student even to the point they lose their desire to go again, which the instructor then in turn says they didnt really have it in them to become a pilot in the first place. Not naming anyone...
Thanks so much for great content! Nice video.
you guys are so funny.... superb .
Good job Dave!
Good work, men! Another fine pilot is in the making! Does he have cabin heat, Matt? And he is an advanced ultralight with that rig, I'm guessing? Fly safe you guys!
Nice light plane.
Keep on going.
I like that ! From jpn 👍
Student pilot did very good Flying. 6/11/2021
Hirth seems really smooth
Good work keeping Dave on point and being positive, very hard in those sort of conditions. SOunds like he needs to look at those brakes though! I take it you didn't use flaps for the landing due to the crosswind, to help keep energy and for ease of a go around, the same as I do on my plane?
Another plane I'm considering
Thanx for that
You need a PPL to fly the two seater version, right? Awesome plane.
Depends on what country you're in. In Canada you can fly one of these with an Ultralight Pilot Permit. In the US you'd need a Sport Pilot Certificate.
@@mmatt thank you. By the way your videos are always awesome.
How about a video about the problems that Dave run into making that engine air worthy. You mentioned he had to dead stick a few times.
Just wondering why you aren't using flaps apart from the first take-off 😀
We were just starting to introduce the concept of flaps at this stage of his training. Up until this point, we didn't use them at all since we don't need them for a runway this long. Now we use them for all take offs and landings in preparation for using his airstrip at home which is much shorter.
@@mmatt I assumed the something similar. Keeping the process of landing simple until the process becomes natural, before introducing another thing on the check list.
The canvas enclosed cockpit makes this plane look cool. Can you fly it in cold weather in comfort?
Can a cabin heater be added for cold temps?
Nice video. Why do you use flaps on takeoff, but not on touch n go”s ?
🔹🔹
And useful load ?
What kind of fuel.
Rotate speed,, stall,, .....
engine would look nicer anodized ,,don't you think?
Ancient antiques , so what are you doing about recommendations for engine safety upgrades ? different features on the engine .. keeping an eye on any information? Thanks
He said the engine has been rebuilt and a lot of the problems with it and the gearbox are gone He will have to upgrade at some point, but if it works and they are happy with it, fly it.
@@BoB4jjjjs Guessing this will be a in the pattern only trainer for landings until they get the engine sorted.
I need one of these
god i wish ultralights werent so overlooked in flightsims, id love to have a hawk in xplane11
New subscriber, liking the channel!
Awesome! Hopefully we have lots more fun to come! :-)
was he on the brake at 9:55?...sparks come out of the left main right at touch down
No he wasn't. We noticed that too and don't really know what happened there...
Beautiful enclosed Hawk! Other than fuel and HP why isn't it an ultralight?
In Canada, the Hawk is considered an ultralight. In the US though, ultralights can only have only one seat, weigh less than 254 lbs, carry only 5 gallons of fuel, have a stall speed of less than 28 mph, and a top speed of 63 mph.
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I like the CGS Hawk, I like any ultralight that fly. But again I like the Chinook more.
Hey Matt can you do an update on Dave’s hawk
Put a check nut and a lock pin in front of propeller lock nut.
That front wheel looks like its off a wheelbarrow.........LOL!
Kinda makes me wish I had one
You experience carb ice on the bing 54? Never experienced that ever on my 582.
Great video! Glad to see you guys flying in that weather, good training for when it happens in “real life”. Nice Hawk you have there! What size tires are you using? They look a bit bigger than the ones on my Hawk, like that nose wheel too! Blue skies guys!
Patrick Doyle the tires are a dot approved trailer tire with a 920 lbs rating...18.5 by 8 by 8.
large trim compensators will induce flapping, please remove or reduce their size,
I had a cgs hwk years ago and I had very uncomfortable experience with putting a large trim compensator.
That hawk looks like a shadow
He'll be fine, be landing in sandbanks before you know it, he might not even run into trees at a snowy field lol.
One really doesn't need to joke about having to make emergency landings. while it's always a relief when you walk away from one, I'm not sure that I would boast on an airplane that has many engine failures.
I love this plane must get me one
So is a license required in this plane for the average flyer or is the 2nd seat only for teaching? Don't worry, I know nothing, nada,
zero, zip, nor zilch about these things but am curious? I hear the weight of 254lbs as part of the restriction but IDKnow so I'm
out here watching, learning, and asking these dumb questions. Thanks for the video
Chinook's have a similar tail curve. The other plane manufacturer says the curve gets it up/flying faster. I thought this
design was owned by the same people but now I'm more confused. But the Chinook owner/builder claims that their
plane lifts on it's own power w/o the need to pull back & that it continues rising until you adjust the speed you want
to travel, then it doesn't lift w/o you wanting it to life. They said this is due to the curved shape of the pipe body and
the higher tail piece. Me, it makes sense if they say so & I like the style of plane. peace
Cool....Well done.. :-)
Very cool
Hi, it is very nice, how much it costs?
Time for a 582 ? Got a friend that builds the 582 that may give you a great deal???
Love your channel. How can a guy in Tennessee get into an ultralght?
Contact www.cgsaviation.com/cgs-hawk-arrow-ii-two-seater-plane.html
I know that plane did it come from North Georgia?
It did. :-) Here's a video of us going to pick it up:
ua-cam.com/video/PQ9g8k-pCLA/v-deo.html
Is there any way to talk to Dave buying a Hawk project?
Did you purposefully not use the flaps?
Do you need a sports license to fly one of these?
In the US, yes you do.
Awesome!
Legal ha algum tempo procuro algo sobre este modelo tenho um monoplace só mais antigo,o antigo proprietário não tem a papelada dele não sei nem o modelo para documentar ele alguem pode me ajudar...
O modelo de assento único é chamado de Beaver RX35
How far it can fly?
Wonder if this guy still conduct training.
I do.
How much weight can you safely fly with?
He wasn’t using flaps.
They are flying vinyl amd aluminum
👏👍👍👍❤️ только закрытые кабины! Иначе не чувствуешь самолёт!
freekin awesome
It's for sale as well if someone will interested to buy ?
Where can you purchase one of these?
www.cgsaviation.com/
Does the hawk fall under part 103?
Not this one but one of their lighter single seat models does though. But we're in Canada so 103 doesn't apply to us.
Top speed? Ceiling?
He used no flaps on the touch n goes--I am not a flyer but it seems the touchdowns would be softer using flaps--no?
Not really, no. Flaps are primarily used to make steeper approaches without building up airspeed. They usually create more drag than lift. With a new pilot, we'd rather have a shallow approach so the transition from the descent into the flare and touchdown is easier.
I have no idea how dumbtube suggested your vid but I like it, ay. I have a question: why are the things that hold up the wings(struts?) not covered in the same fabric as the main wings so as to give more lift and there by be able to make the main wing shorter. At least covering the struts? would reduce drag and be cheaper that making those tubes tear shaped. Also why have you chosen a "rear" wing engine as opposed to a front "wing" engine?
Is it easier to fly or is it able to carry more weight so as to be able to be piloted by a 275 pound fat ass like me ( that's about 135 of those Canadian pounds, I think you call them key-loads, yea that's it). I need as much key-loads as I can get if I am going to fly and not just fall slowly.
And may I ask a personal question: what would this cost AND what were you able to tell your wife, girlfriend, boyfriend, significant other, extraterritorial love slave, etc...that it cost so as to keep them from dropping you like a hot rock and leaving you on the spot? (i have heard you Canadians are kinda' kinky so I tried to be as inclusive as I could)
Okay! I might have a passing interest in flying.
So...how much for the plane.....?
(i really like the plane and this is a well done video. Thank you)
Probably because you'd lose a lot of visibility if you designed the wing geometry like that plus having the supporting wing at such an angle wouldn't produce as much lift as it would drag. Interesting idea though.
The rear mounted engine allows for much better visibility and a much lower chance of a prop strike.
Cost for these plane vary wildly depending on many factors. Anywhere from $10K - $60K+
Operating costs are quite low though. They use car gas and burn about 5 gallons per hour. Insurance up here is only about $150 / year and then if you keep it at an airport, you'll have airport and hangar fees.
@@mmatt thank you mmatt, you are very kind to respond.
I have wanted to fly since I was 12 and at 60 its time to put up or shut up.
I really weigh about 230lbs ,when you gas up and put just a small carry along, I have until recently, exceed most all of the weight limit's of these small planes.
But lately, they appear to be stronger built and more powerful. And now with it being common to have airlirons AND flaps, well I think it is time.
So mmatt let me ask and there is no hurry to respond, if you we're beginning today to learn to fly, and time was not a problem But only had $25,000 you could spend, where would you start. Is that really even enough money to be able to learn to fly and also own a plane powerful enough to carry one ( wife said, and I quote, "oh, he'll no, I will never fly with you, forget it",) plus a set of golf clubs and a full tank of gas?
Mmatt thanks again and I do really like the plane that was in the video, it seems just about the right power with a good cruise speed and also "easy" to fly characteristics.
Be safe and be blessed
Nice
Thanks!