My suggestion for the graphics would be to replicate the art style of the promo art. There's a certain pokemon concept of using the original promo art in the same way.
I get the feeling not even the 3ds remasters did this. There was a lot of "90s shadowing" used for OoT/MM artwork, which only barely came out in the game itself (due to technical limitations obviously), but the 3DS versions look like they went for the Smash Bros. Melee type of lightning and general feel. The fan remakes tend try to reach hyperrealism, which always end up looking really really odd
Honestly, for the visuals, an OoT remake should just stick to the OoT3D art style but with higher poly models and sharper textures, or maybe use the Hyrule Warriors art style.
@@Elchinodawn I personally feel that leaned too much into the whole Unreal remake catagory of it being TOO realistic here. Would work for a Twilight Princess remake though imo
yeah cause 3ds and twilight princess werent enough remakes just yet….. seriously wtf is wrong with people like you constanty begging for remakes ? 😴 scared of progress ? i wanna see new games already
While this is a fantastic concept, the last thing I want on this planet is for Ocarina of Time, my favorite game, to take elements from Breath of the Wild, the only game I've ever hated. Looking back at what couldn't be done, instead of looking at where we are now, I believe, would be the perfect way to add to Ocarina of Time.
While I agree that most of BOTW should not be replicated (ie. The non-linear structure and open world) there were still some good concepts like mini dungeons called shrines for example.
They could make shrines a part of the hidden grottos and very much optional. But I agree, I really did not enjoy BOTW and because of that had zero interest in totk. Truly feel like Zelda spin-offs rather than a real Zelda game
@TigerTabCat1 I've enjoyed Botw and Totk for what they are, but I wholeheartedly agree that they don't feel like Zelda games and i have to do a TON of character customization to even look enough like Link to enjoy playing. Wtf they decided to hide any sort of green tunic until end game forcing you to peacemeal a bunch of random gear and dye it just to feel like the Hero is beyond me.
Not gonna lie I hated skyward sword more but idk totk being basically the same think as botw makes me hate the new series even more. I really don’t understand Nintendo’s decisions. Being stubborn must be in corporate Japan’s blood. Nintendo isn’t the only Japanese company that’s been ignoring its fans/customers for…decades at this point
My unrealistic expectations with a Remake or remaster of OOT. - Ice Temple added - Wind Temple added - Light Temple added - Sky temple added - Real explorable Hyrule Castle letting us see the King of Hyrule since we never saw him in OOT. - Early Pegasus's boots being obtainable after beating the running man. Running man quest will be available after Dodongos Cavern is cleared. This would make the big empty field easier to travel through. - Let players swing the sword underwater. -Free camera control option -VR Support - Let Adult Link use the boomerang - Give all bosses more varied attacks - HD Remake of the game that makes it look just like the official artwork. -Option to remove the owl. -Option to turn off Navi reminders -Give Link the ability to use his sword on horse back - let Link swing his sword while Moving. -Give Link the ability to summon his horse faster using the reed whistle from the unused OOT files. - Make Final Boss Gannon more harder by giving him more attacks and ability blocking attacks as well. Make him actually a challenge its unacceptable how much of an easy boss he was. - Give us more history on the Sheikah - A shop that lets players dye our tunics any colour we want in a shop. - Let players use the medallions as defensive and offensive weapons. - Add in Skulltulla houses from Majora Mask - Add more Trees to Hyrule Field - Add in more enemies on Hyrule Field - Let Link upgrade his Master Sword like A Link between Words. - Unicorn Fountains be added - Final Master Sword upgrade lets Link use sword beam. - For collecting 100% of everything shows a secret ending time skip into the future of Link training alone in a forest as he calls Epona setting up his next adventure into Majoras Mask.
>Let players swing the sword underwater. Have you ever tried to swing *anything* underwater? Granted, Twilight Princess did it. >Give us more history on the Sheikah Unironically this, although ninty did this with Botw/TofK and it was dumb af... like all the lore ninty's squirted out since Suckward Sword - so I'd just as soon ninty leave it alone at this point.
Just upgrade the graphics, but stay at the darker artstyle. Add some more overworld like you mentioned. But not with shrines, more with natural caves etc to explore. Add some 2-3 dungeons, sidequests like in majora. Im playing oot at the moment after some 10 years. And its still soooo good ❤
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Is telling people to be ashamed for liking the Unreal Engine ones and telling people to shut up for thinking OoT 3D is a remake comedic? It just comes off as a bit rude and can turn people away
1. No stamina meter! I've hated that thing since it was introduced in SS. Lol 2. I actually love the hyper realistic look. 3. Love the additions you suggested.
Gotta be honest: I hope they dont make it like botw/totk. Besides being “bigger” there was nothing about those games that improved on oot’s tried and true formula.
@@RohanSlazar Yes, BOW and TOFK are better games as they should be for their time period. Unfortunately OOT is by far superior for its time when released. OOT literally invented the Z target with every game uses to this day. Sit down boy.
The artsyl should be like those cgi ads for the 3ds ver, ocarina of time 3ds stays true to the artstyle instead of changing it, as nice as it is to see others remake oot, we know nintendo can do it better if they even try to( i hope the do remake it someday plsss nintendo)
I think an artstyle with realistic shading could work, as Nintendo demonstrated in their first Zelda WiiU tech demo. I think that looked awesome. Kena Bridge of Spirits also demonstrated that a more realistic Pixar-style look could work quite well. But I also think a stylized approach may work best if you look at the specs of Nintendo consoles always being behind at least one generation.
why would you want to turn OoT jusr into a mini botw. I think adding a shrine type mechanic to OoT is kinda silly. I think it just needs a more modern art style and minor changes or minor additions to the mechanics to modernize them a bit
@@TheObsessiveGamer I think all we need is OoT 3d to be released on switch with better res and some updated visuals (more n64 like lighting). I think a faithful release like that would do a lot better than changing stuff. Plus you got mad at FF7R for changing too much and then proposed a bunch of changes to OoT like that’s any different conceptually.
@@gabreese_ the problem with FF7 remake was that it changed the plot and story. I proposed to keep the story the same. Making areas bigger and adding new dungeons/mini dungeons aren't so bad. What you want however is more a Remaster rather than a remake. Which is perfectly fine :)
@@TheObsessiveGamer yeah you right, idk i just like the original game, i think a remake would kinda ruin the entire reasom people play OoT in modern day.. Like the reason people go to play OoT now is either for nostalgia, or to experience the roots of 3D zelda (most likely after playing botw or totk) Id rather nintendo just keep new versions of the old game faithfully remastered around so people can still experience the game that set the trajectory of 3D zelda.
@@TheObsessiveGamerHonestly I don't think that this was really a fair thing to say, what you brought up really is just mashing OOT and BOTW-lite together. By the very nature of including a stamina meter and some measure of climbing and Shrines all over and expanding the map so much you're changing far too much of the original game's identity. Ocarina of Time doesn't benefit from having these completely unlike systems just bap-bapped into one like a child smashing Legos into each other. You're going with a childhood imagination dream and giving very little overall thought to how these systems would interact or how they could potentially detract from what is already in the game. For example, let's say that we have a bunch of Shrines all over the place. Now there are quick waypoints everywhere, and the warp songs have to compete for utility. It undermines the very title object of the game. Similarly, if you expand the land too much and you don't add Shrine warp points, now you need to invent new songs to quick travel, or maybe include the Song of Soaring and owl statues all over, something like that. If you grant Link incremental increases on a Stamina and it's used for climbing and running and it's not as developed as BOTW is on that front not only are plenty of people going to complain that it feels like a downgrade from that game but it's going to run into the issue of potentially making Link too powerful compared to his equipment. If Link is capable of doing all of these varied things without his gear we run into the issue of his toolkit merely becoming keys. They're there just to fulfil a specific arbitrary action rather than being something that extends his abilities beyond what he is capable of. Think about how much you would have to change just in Dodongo's Cavern and the Forest Temple if you could climb up short walls even though you said not to change anything about them, and that's just one issue among many that come from this scattershot approach. How many of the Magic Bean segments would be completely pointless if you can climb? You want to include Stamina-fueled running mechanic in OOT, but have you given thought to how that would map onto the controls? Are you going to replace the roll; one of the main identities of the N64 era Zeldas, just to include a feature that people already complain about in BOTW? It feels less like there's forethought in the cohesiveness of these opposing game designs, just a childhood wishlist that would result in an undercooked experience. You're very correct about the issue with the whole "Nintendo, hire this man" phenomena, but outside of that you yourself only have a very vague idea of what you want from a remake, and it shows. The reason that many of these things were cut from the original game isn't just time constraints or the capabilities of the N64, a number of them just did not mesh with the game's design or balance, which is why most of them were used in later games that changed up their mechanics to compensate. If you want some genuine ways to design a remake you need to think about the things you want to include and then design methods of player interaction that facilitate that philosophy with purpose. Here's some ideas: • New lakeside settlement at Lake Hylia that leads up to the fencing that blocks it off from the rest of Hyrule. They have it blocked off because they've been left to fend for themselves from Gerudo raids, and they're not happy with the King right now because he's still entertaining peace talks with Ganondorf while not actually doing anything to mitigate their problems. Bam. There's some new story conflict, it's a good place for a new settlement, it allows you to have NPCs talk about the kooky scientist, you can do trade with the Zoras and Lon Lon Ranch here... Lots of potential. While we're at it, consider opening up the far wall to the ocean for a small space similar to Great Bay in Majora's Mask, maybe we can include some aquatic activities here like sea fishing or diving for lost treasure. • Instead of granting Link all of these physical buffs for things he can do on his own, I think it's better to look across the series for item ideas and combining concepts together. I think that finding ways to expand how the player's inventory interacts with the world is a great way to go about things. Personally I always loved how the Iron Boots were magnetic in TP, and I love how you can mix the utility of items together in some games (bomb arrows and the long Pegasus Jump in Link's Awakening, for example.) What about the potential to wear the Iron Boots, use the Hookshot to latch onto trees, and either pull the tree down to create a bridge or to bend the tree and unequip the boots to catapult yourself when the tree springs back up? If we take BOTW's bullet time aiming we can leap off the cliff at Gerudo Valley and use the Hookshot to latch into a cave in the wall. How about using the Megaton Hammer to launch Bombs like you're playing golf? Attaching a Bomb to the Boomerang and then manually dropping it mid-flight? There's a million new ideas or conceptsthat can be taken from across the series to expand how item interactions work, and some of those are going to lead to content that is worth exploring and implementing. Heck, if we're going to incorporate real forest areas with more trees then even something as simple as the Double Clawshot could be implemented. • Personally I disagree about leaving the dungeons completely untouched. The game has too many box pushing and eyeball shooting puzzles for its own good. The majority of rooms are perfectly fine as-is, but there's definitely some puzzle changes or tweaks that could be done for the better, especially if we're altering how items work or the game mechanics in general. I don't think there's need to change more than 15% of them, but there's definitely some repeat stuff that could at least use touching up or reimagining. • Instead of simply expanding the traversable land so much (some is acceptable though), how about we consider making child and adult areas more different from each other than they are currently? We have the ability to essentially double the scale of the game temporarily rather than horizontally, which allows for a serious reinterpretation of content. We can expand the purposes of time travel with ideas inspired by Oracle of Ages too. • Obvious things like being able to thaw Zora's Domain as an adult, more interaction between Gorons/Zoras/Hylians/Kokiri/Gerudo, expanding on the war that plagued Hyrule and Link's family (maybe finding a family tomb and getting something cool from it, or at least being able to find Link's mother's grave?), among other things. Maybe we can actually get into the opening section of Majora's Mask before Link falls into Termina? • Keep the combat focused on one on one duels because the game was the origin of targeting in the series, but include New mechanics for allowing the player to punish enemies for guarding for too long as well as clever use of items in combat. For example, being able to toss a Bomb over an enemy and then swapping to the Hookshot allowing you to grab onto the tossed Bomb in mid-air, causing it to swing into the back of the enemy and make it explode and open them up for further Sword attacks. Maybe a guard breaker sword attack that costs Magic meter so that there's a cost to it but you have a limited option of breaking the pace of combat? • How about instead of Shrines we expand the concept of secret grottos and incorporate ancient ruins across the land? They would be more tailor made for the areas that they're in, and instead of having 60 two room puzzle boxes everywhere we could have a handful of ten room mini dungeons that incorporate more advanced mechanics than the main game. We could even expand the royal tomb in a similar way. Anyway, there's a lot of great ways to build on what is here without utterly nuking OOT's identity and changing it so much that they might as well have made an entirely new entry in the series.
I believe it's an unenviable task to visualise a modern slant of oot while maintaining its charm , it's soul. Essentially OOT is a work of genius emphasising music and integrating into gameplay while successfully compensating hardware limitations visually. It succeeds in escapism regardless of the limited palette for the canvas so to speak. Good luck to whoever is tasked with that job.
OoT only appears limited in contrast to modern graphics - having grown up with OoT, it never seemed anything but amazing to me, and every time I go back to it I get a massive sense of nostalgia and hints of the wonder I experienced as a kid.
Great video as always sir! I feel like this should be a no brainer for Nintendo to approach this project. Ocarina of time can be made even more majestic with some slight modernization as long as they don’t stray too far away from the game’s original vision. Honestly like you had stated if they updated it with the original concepts from the beta I think that alone would satisfy people. I’d love to see the original envisioning of the lost woods with the sunlight shimmering through the tall trees or even a new song introduced where it links you to a central hub similar to what Ganon’s castle would’ve been in getting you to quicker travel to certain areas. I 100% agree with removal of the skulleta side quest as that was more tedious/repetitive and one of my only few complaints about the game.
Honestly, the main thing I would love in a remake is more outfits to wear. That is the biggest benefit I loved about breath of the wild. Maybe they could add like a total of 10 more sets to find. Also maybe add more shields and swords that you can buy or find.
I'd enjoy tf out of that, but ONLY if the Kokiri and Hylian tunics were standard. I hate having to piece together random gear and dye it just to look close enough to Link to even play the game.
I really like this idea. Taking advantage of the newer hardware to bring us something that’s true to the spirit of the original. In addition to the stuff you talked about I’d want to see some cut/Ura Zelda content. I’m sure a lot of old fans would be mad about the changes/retcons, but when you compare these wild ideas to the MASSIVE canon/lore changes in Skyward Sword and BOTW/TOTK it’s relatively minor in comparison. I’d want the art style to be more realistic with some surrealistic elements. If they added some of the newer stuff from Twilight Princess like horse combat that would dramatically increase the game’s quality. Too bad we’ll most likely NEVER have this. Great video. It would be interesting to know what you’d want added/changed in a Wind Waker remake (same goes for some other older Zeldas). I hope we’ll eventually get cut content videos for Star Fox Adventures and Assault. Those would be interesting to see. Especially since we now have the Dinosaur Planet N64 build, and Assault was originally supposed to have branching paths like 64 and is also combined with this cancelled Star Fox arcade game.
The medallions could be actually used for something too, as they were intended to be. And perhaps have the functions they wanted with the expansion thing for the 64 that never got off the ground.
That would be cool! Games always reward the player with some big power up after a chapter completion, yeah you get a heart container. But I can’t feel like something extra is missing after completing a Temple and recieving an elemental medallion.
OoT (N64) VS Cryzenx's OoT IMO: I feel Unreal Engine makes everything look like they're covered in Vaseline; Like, stuff looks extremely glossy... 😲 - This video seems like a cool because I can't of any art style that would make OoT look disgusting!
Unreal engine doesn't make things look like covered in Vaseline . It's the developer and think about it a one man development it's crazy that they would polish it like a AAA studio . Just look at yoshi crafted world , that was developed in unreal engine and looks nothing like it . A game engine doesn't make the graphics but it's a framework
@@eduardotepoxteca9171 - That's my opinion on one specific thing; I'm mostly referring to Cryzenx's Unreal Engine 4/5 remake of OoT... I'm not factoring in other games like Yoshi's Crafter World because that's a completely different game...
@@eduardotepoxteca9171 Yeah, it has a lot to do with the lighting, the specularity of the materials, etc. Skin and hair are treated with the same level of shine the metals are, and it ends up giving the game a freshly waxed look. Unreal Engine would be perfect, if creators weren't too invested in trying to make everything reflect like a mirror. I think Ocarina of Time can be given a good mix between gritty realism and that anime look, it doesn't necessarily need to be cell shaded. Just don't focus on making the characters faces and hair look too overly real, but cloth should look like cloth, grass should look like grass, different surfaces should reflect light differently, etc. I think the modern Final Fantasy's style could work with Zelda, but maybe blur the line a bit more between fantasy and reality. It should still more or less fit the art style of Ocarina of Time. That original game has such a charm and I don't think you want to veer too far away from it. I mean, at it's heart, it's a platformer...not a lot of realism to temples you're jumping from ledge to ledge and hookshotting up to.
I don’t like the art style or visuals of the fan made games. I don’t want a plastic look to the game. I like the 3ds style. I never had a reason to play the n64 version cuz the 3ds is the definitive version. The 3ds game still holds up today.
Everything you said pretty much is exactly what I’ve been dreaming of. Only thing is I’d vouch for instead of shrines there being ground holes or something. Don’t want a weird ancient tech vibe associated. There could be themed caves depending on the area you’re in and stuff. That would be so cool
I still see the soul calibur 2 Link model as a strong argument that that should be the way to go with the art style. We shouldn’t be subjective about remaking it on cel shading or realistic like the model you showed, because in that case I too have a taste and I dislike Cel-Shading, just make it like it was supposed to be, like the 1998 original artwork, hence like the soul calibur 2 Link model. And the original developers of OoT should comeback to do it, like Yoshiaki Koizumi, if not we’ll get another unfaithful re-imagining of OoT
I think an Ocarina of Time Remake should start off with a badass Old Man Link in a far distant Hyrule. After, you beat three dungeons, you go to the Temple of Time, and return the Master Sword where you time travel back to the start of Ocarina of Time. It would be a great way to recapture the twist of the original. After you unlock the Master Sword again, you’d be able to travel between three timelines: Child, Adult, and Old Man. It would be a full remake but also a new game at the same time.
One thing I'd like for a true Ocarina remake is collecting memories like in BOTW and TOTK that can be unlocked after getting medallions from each sage. It would show their POV during the 7-year timeskip for character development. Also, medallions should unlock powers for Link to use. Also, reduce linearity; play the temples in any order you want!
I loved the linearity, to be honest; it made the games feel like a progression, like you were actually earning something and working through progressively harder areas that you couldn't have conquered any earlier, and made it feel like an epic story. Nowadays, the games (Botw, Totk) feel like a big sandbox where nothing really matters. I loved the old formula so much and it's sad to see them go in such a drastically different direction.
The original idea for OoT during beta would've been to actually make medallions useable, since as far as I know there's still beta content left on the cartridge that heavily implies that, however that ideas was scrapped late in development.
I though i was watching a video from a huge well established channel until i saw the like number at 13:31 . Keep up the great content! I love the quality of this video and I'm sure you'll get a ton of recognition soon enough
There's actually a lot of potential here considering the amount of cut content from the original game and how the story was recontextualised in future titles. - See places like Snowpeak and Ordon Village from Twilight Princess considering it takes place in the same world - After Link lifts the Master Sword, you don't immediately wake up but can instead play as Sheik during the 7 year timeskip. This section could be a couple dungeons long - Committing the the idea further, Sheik will act as a companion and 2nd playable character for the Adult section of the game. So Zelda is a part of the story instead of sitting on the sidelines - Smash Bros already made generations of people think she was this cool ninja fighter, time to deliver on that promise - Skull Kid having a bigger role so we see understand the friendship between him and Link in Majora's Mask - The ending sees a montage of the future of Hyrule, including the return of Ganon and the Great Flood, leading into The Wind Waker - An alternate ending where Link can choose to stay in the future and help rebuild Hyrule. It'd be a nice message about not being dictated by past attachments and to always move forward even after a great tragedy
I would really love an OOT remake with the style of the picture of OOT link you pulled up, mixed with ff7 remake graphics. That would be a day one purchase for me. Apart from that, I would say making the world a bit bigger but still keeping the handcrafted feel and experience. Finally adding back some cut content like the medallions actually doing things and some new content as well.
eh I think we should add more screentime with some other characters or more dialogue, like saria, deku tree, daruna, rito, zelda, etc. so that we can be more emotionally invested in them. Because their relationships with Link weren't as convincing and well earned as it should've been which is understandable due to the n64's limited hardware and such in terms of conveying that. Also, maybe even with some cutscenes make Link emote a bit more because like for example with saria when he was leaving the forest for the first time, it seems like he doesn't even care about the moment at all, he just takes the ocarina and just leaves.
I think one of the best attempts I've seen of an OOT remake visually is the aptly named "Ocarina of Time Visual Remake" - there's little to no actual gameplay in the project, and it's instead entirely focused on remaking the models in the game. I think it strikes the perfect balance between stylized and realistic, taking advantage of modern graphics while still respecting the original's artistic intent. By all means I love the idea of a more anime-styled, cel shaded OOT (I'm literally working on something like this rn lol) but it just wouldn't feel right for a proper remake, for all the opposite reasons of most unreal remakes.
This is quite the hot take and many smarter, more competent users have left their thoughts here, but- -Adding a larger map with towns would introduce a whole slew of changes to the way the game plays and feels. If you gave the mask salesman more masks to sell requiring further exploration it could work, but that's just bloating an already existing quest. And having shops spread out through the towns wouldn't make sense because it's solving a problem that a larger map creates; if the map was the same size than shop placement wouldn't need to change. How would npcs in the towns serve any unique purpose? What unique reward would make it worth exploring? Rupees are already easy enough to get in game, and other items can be gotten from cutting grass. If they gave you a new item then the entire game would have to change to properly incorporate that new item. -Shrines??? STAMINA??? Easy one to knock of is stamina and climbing, because that would fundamentally BREAK almost every single obstacle and puzzle in the game. And if your reconstructing the dungeons from the ground up in order to incorporate these new additions then your striving to far from the source material. Shrines giving heart or stamina vessels is a terrible idea. Having link become some total powerhouse mid game would break the flow and challenge. Though if there were 6 mini dungeons, and the reward was adding an ability to your medallions, that would be cool. Since it's building off of what's already in the game. If the map was just slightly larger and had more enemy placement to utilize the games combat, you could have some kind of item ability upgrade, not strength but tactics. -Adding new dungeons or towns would change the flow of the game, or even bits of the story. But if they don't, then they don't serve much of a purpose outside of gameplay which would just be filler. -It feels like a mashup of BotW and OoT with the way you describe it, and if you enjoy BotW's gameplay style that's fine, but your taste shouldn't be the basis for changing a game that plays completely differently. But yeah however Nintendo does it we def need blood effects brought back. cheers.
A subjectively "good" remake of 'Ocarina of Time' should in my opinion atleast entail: >>A modernized graphical update (and NO, "just make it like OoT3D with higher poly models" is NOT ENOUGH) >>Incorporating beta elements from the N64 days (like useable medallions and actually being able to thaw Zoras Domain) >>Getting rid of all loading screens and meshing the environments together seamlessly, perhaps while adding more environments ontop to expand the existing areas from the original game >>Varied boss behaviours (to spice things up for veterans) >>Add some customizeability (akin to what can be done in BotW/TotK) >>Add a Light Temple (for Raurus' sake, since every other sage got one) >>Expand Links' moveset (perhaps to something akin to BotW, but PLEASE no funky Zonai-esque devices that allow us to cheese everything)
What OoT really needs to feel like it did when it released is content in Hyrule Field. Coming back to it now, it's just an empty wasteland but at the time it felt like an expansive real place. Bringing back some of MM's ideas with people having schedules would be a good idea, so for instance you'd get more NPCs going on treks around Hyrule who you could bump into and like in BotW they'd have contextual dialogue based on what is going on. Weather cycle would tie into that (overridden by key events)
Everyone is obsessed with the visuals and pixel fidelity when that has never been the point, its well-integrated mechanics and quality of life changes.
I actually think a realistic Zelda game could work if done properly. And considering there's a live action movie coming, the game could be released either before or after the movie, with each potential release date achieving different goals. If it comes before the movie, it would likely be with the intention of easing the player base into the very idea of a realistic Zelda, making the fanbase as a whole more accepting of the idea of a live action movie, especially if the realistic game is successful. On the other hand, releasing after the movie will very obviously be meant to capitalize on the movie's success. It would even be possible that the live action movie would be a test for how people would react to a realistic Zelda, before releasing a game in that vein.
This would be incredible for sure. Dunno if a proper remake will ever happen, but for now I'm just happy with the work being done on Ship of Harkinian.
The fellow that makes those Unreal Engine Ocarina of Time demos clearly enjoys what he does and puts a lot of work into them but it results in almost everything having a freakish uncanny valley quality when redesigned to be that hyper realistic and still maintain the same relative proportions. The face of his Child Link model is unsettling, it reminds me of that realistic painting of Homer Simpson with the giant veiny eyes.
put the light temple as a final child dungeon through the door of time to get to the pedestal, but make it a step up in difficulty from the other 3 child dungeons
So, basically do Ocarina of Time but with the BotW mechanics and engine. I think they should add content to connect Ocarina to Majora's since it's the sequel. Maybe a sidequest adding the heroes of Termina visiting Hyrule or something like that, plus include an extra Temple after beating Ganondorf. Maybe one inside the Temple of Time where you need to change from kid to teen Link as a main mechanic.
BOTW's Havok engine wouldn't be suitable since that worked for an open world game and I don't think it should stay open world. Rather just have a more muted celshaded artstyle while featuring shrines from it. I do like your ideas for additions. Connecting the two games sounds like a no-brainer
Just take the map and scale it proportional so the outside of the buildings are the same size as the insides. Then you got a world map that's open, but still small enough to contain everything seamlessly
My guess would be for the Triforce ending when you obtain all the medalions you can enter into the sacred realm in a Twilight princess style temple of time kind of way and use new abilities that the medalions give you to do one final dungeon to obtain or awaken the triforce of courage
Taking inspiration from the beta features that were dropped, like the Sage Medallions giving you various powers, makes sense. Putting in the missing Temple of Light that should accompany Rauru’s Sage Medallion makes sense. Expanding the scale of Hyrule somewhat and making previously inaccessible areas explorable makes sense. Ocarina of Time should never be made to be reminiscent of Breath of the Wild. Ocarina of Time belonged to a different era, when Zelda games were still Zelda games. I know a lot of people loved Breath of the Wild, but I think it represents the point at which the game series died, at least the main series.
I'd like to see a cyber punk Zelda with Epona being a motorcycle and Ganon being a corrupt politician. Either anime or comic book style like Wolf Among Us, or just realistic.
I don't think they need to worry about the integrity of the original content. We've all played the game. What you are suggesting is the right way to go about it. It needs to be a reimagining. A longer game that suits modern audiences. Expand the stories, areas, more towns, more quests. Doesn't need to be a Trilogy like FFVII Remake. That's an extreme example.
To be honest, I don't agree with the Triforce questline. Sure it sounds fun on paper but it will really, really drag out the ending of the story. Also, Wind Waker already has a Triforce questline and people hated it. Other than that, loved everything else.
More or less how I feel about a remake. Make Hyrule larger with more side quests, possibly a new dungeon, and I would even argue slightly tweaked dungeons. However, the idea of making the Master Quest dungeons sort of a post-game is pretty cool.
I'm not sure if I want this remake to have the same artstyle as BOTW, I'd want it to stand out. Personally, I feel like they could get realism to work with Zelda as long as it's heavily-stylized realism, which is the artstyle I'd like to see with an OoT remake.
The stamina gauge is dumb. Also i would bring back the beta maps for oot Remake and the medallions being usable a big change. And change the lost woods to beta lost woods and beta enemies and beta dungeons.
I'd honestly love a remaster with Twilight Princess HD graphics. Add in a few things to the "empty" areas, but don't change or remove a thing; I'd want the same experience just updated, otherwise it wouldn't feel like OoT. As fun and new as the FFVII remake was, it didn't feel like FFVII.
FF7R isn't a retcon at all, it's a reimagining that's supposed to coexist with the OG. The only ones disappointed by it were "old good, new bad" people
Definitely want a remake with actual gameplay changes, graphical remakes just feel so boring. I like many of your ideas. One thing I'd like to add is I'd like them to change up how you get the titular Ocarina of Time. Having Zelda just chuck it in the water and Ganondorf not noticing any of it (I know that he just lets us open it to waltz right in after us but it still feels dumb and unrealistic) just feels like a cheap cop out. They should have you go on a proper quest to get it after Zelda escapes from Ganondorf. Maybe Zelda or Impa leaves you a message telling you where to find it, maybe you go back to Zelda's courtyard and find a secret chamber to obtain it (perhaps serving as a 4th child dungeon or mini dungeon, which could also help to better bridge the gap between the child and adult dungeons), something like that would really give that part of the game the proper tension and drama it needs instead of feeling like it's just rushing you along to future Hyrule.
I actually would prefer an updated port with new graphics similar to oot 3D. That way it would still be full of beautiful glitches. An actual remake would feel weird unless they add more to the story.
Hearing you talk about what Ocarina of Time would look like if it were to receive a Remake made me want to ask how would you define re-releases of video games by the terms that actually describe them and not the terms that Publishers use to sell them. A guy called Lextorias made a video titled “Why Do We Keep Remaking Games” that helped me understand the difference between the terms of game releases and I wanted to hear your take on the matter?
Maybe not Ocarina, but with rumors of the next console circulating around and the fact that we just got TOTK, I think the next zelda game that isn't main series will probably be A) A port of Twilight Princess HD to the new console B) A new 2D game like ALBW, Link's Awakening, or ALTTP or C) A remaster of one of the games that hasn't gotten one yet. Just a little something to hold us over till the next big main line game and so Zelda fans can have something to look forward to at the beginning of the new console. And now that BOTW/TOTK have brought in a lot more new fans, I'm betting on a remaster (or more preferably, a remake) of an old game to reach more people.
I really like the concept your proposing. Some stuff would need changing, like the shrines for example, and some stuff would need scope gauging like the open world, but it would be interesting to try and potentially create some conceptual documents, maybe some concept art, maybe even a prototype build. I gotta say, you've really peaked my interest, maybe I could try and make a conceptual project out of it, if not an actual fan project. Would be unlikely for it to turn into an actual game, but it could be interesting.
The 3DS version was amazing. I doubt that Nintendo is going to make anything similar any time soon, but I believe the fan made Render98 port for PC is on the right track. Similar to the SM64 Render96 port, it aims to replicate the original promo art style.
No stamina wheel just to frustrate players with "come back later". Filling a bar is not as fun as finding a new item that opens new ways, and having to remember where to use it now. And dungeons, change them entirely! It's a remake, we played the original dungeons already.
No, Ocarina of Time should *NOT* be cel-shaded. Just because later 3D games in the series are cel-shaded, does not mean the toon look defines the entire series. Just because Aonuma disliked realism in Legend of Zelda, doesn't mean he's the only developer as Miyamoto asked Aonuma to stick with realism. Ocarina and Twilight Princess are closer together as the more realistic-looking anime designs, thus Ocarina's remade graphics should lean closer to 2000 Spaceworld Tech Demo, 2011 Wii U Tech Demo, or Link in Soul Calibur. That is how that Link was designed to look in higher fidelity.
Tbh Link in Soul Calibur was more a Link is what a realistic Link could look like. However OOT and TP both were still using older hardware that wasn't hyper realistic and thus the models for well despite being anime inspired Imo the spaceworld 2000 and 2011 tech demos didn't look right. Link looked too plasticy in both. If they were to remake it in a non-toon style, Hyrule Warriors would probably be your best bet actually. The celshading however is only brought up cause the idea is to replicate official art here as closely as possible. Granted my take on it is to tone it back from BOTW and be more a balance as I mentioned. But that's my opinion. Everyone's opinion is valid here :)
I agree that an OoT remake needs to double down on the creepy factor. Expand the already existing maps, upgrade the game mechanics and characters and burn the Koroks! I mean protect the Kokiri! Tbf they could also one some of the beta ideas. Like some extra dungeons or post game content. And no I don't mean Majora's Mask.
Honestly if they were to remake this I'd be totally fine with the old graphics, maybe just a few QOL enhancements. And a few more side quests, or even times events like in MM. I couldn't stand what they did to the graphics in OoT3D and since remakes usually get ruined by stuff lile that I'd hope they would just keep most of that the same as it is.
Things I want from OOT Remake: Not have the early game be nothing but a bunch of cutscenes. It takes SO long for the game to get going. Which brings me to my next point... Hyrule Field is empty AF. Link to the Past and Zelda 1 had MASSIVE overworlds that you could explore before you took on the first dungeon. Even Zelda 2 and Awakening at optional stuff you could mess around with to get more powerful if you wanted to. This leaves you stuck with 3 heart containers and not much else until you get out of Kokiri forest and then it's a WHOLE lot of nothing for awhile. Speaking of empty, Future Hyrule is not Dark World. Dark World has all of Gannon's minions hunting you down and making life hell for people that aren't him. He had seven years and he just sits in his castle playing his organ. What exactly is his endgame plan again? He's won. He's got power and the kingdom, and he does... what exactly? The bosses on OoT were huge pussies. Aquamentus takes i think seven+ hits to kill and deals a whole heart container of damage, AND he can 3 way ranged lasers. And your shield is useless. I know if you get *EVERYTHING* from the overworld available to you (5-6 hearts, blue ring, white sword, magic shield, bow) then you can just spank his ass. But either way a victory is earned. Mazura is the first boss of Zelda 2... he's a Zelda II boss, enough said. Zelda 3 has six statues and even though it's a simple predictable pattern, it can take awhi.... dood there is things can do 2 heart of damage in that game... in the overworld, and you come out of the tutorial @ 4 hearts. Awakening has Moldorm that can kill in 3 hits and the only savign grace is that you can bail on him and you don't get healing medicine until after. Gohma can be killed in 15 seconds and has grass with hearts in his room. Also stop giving Navi and Kaepora Gaebora sh*t. I think they are awesome.
i would love to get Ura Zelda stuff, like Wind, light, sky, Ice, earth temples (or dark world), Hyrule castle as it was on Beta, expanded hyrule field and beta/botw style lost woods (let's be real, nobody is going to miss oot one), expanded gerudo desert, new locations from other games such as ordon village or hateno, graphics could be just like e3 2011 tech demo nintendo made for the wii u, pretty sure that a next gen Nintendo console should be able to do that, more enemies and finally find the triforce, it ain't happening but it would be the best remake of all time
As much as I'd love all that, to be fair the Wind and Ice Temples weren't ever made as seperate temples from the Forest and Water temples based on more recent discoveries of the beta dungeons. I personally think they renamed those in the end to what we had cause of the lack of enough elements to work with. Regardless would love all of that
I d love to play a remastered, Tears of the kingdom graphics like open world Ocarina of time. That in my opinion would be Nintendo s greatest achievement. Oh and I want the triforce back.
4:24 Brah, this IS anime art style plus realism just like what you complained about here. 4:00 Both are true interpretations of original art style plus realism. Are you forgetting about the artwork for each game??? You cant just go off of in game graphics because games couldn’t reflect the art style like we can now. Cloud has a “V” shaped anime chin and big eyes with anime spike hair. Exactly like the drawings.
Rofl. Well tbh I don't discredit his work. He did as I stated in the video, just a pure remaking rather than going so much for adapting to a new artstyle lol
I think the more likely scenario is Nintendo comes up with so many new things, they just decide to make a new game. I reckon thats why their remakes often remain pretty faithful, they'd rather flesh out new ideas in new games to fully explore them. Especially as they wouldn't simply just make new OoT-style dungeons or whatever, but probably more fundamental changes. Think like how the new abilities in Tears of the Kingdom entirely change how to play the game. That's how we end up with something like A Link Between Worlds. I know most people think Nintendo just half-assess and under delivers on remakes, and there's truth there, but I think they would rather just focus on whole new experiences over re-treading what they've done. Ocarina of Time has been done, it is what it is, and it is great! Time to see what's next.
I don't think you fully considered how adding features like a stamina bar or additional challenges like shrines would influence the gameplay. Stamina would undoubtedly make things more tedious and it would probably make certain parts in the dungeons a little bit harder. Just in the first dungeon alone that should be clear with how much climbing you would have to do before you have any way to increase your max stamina. You also don't gain anything by making the world bigger and then adding sprinting to let you move faster. Even if you litter the larger map with shrines or other side quest content you would only make players feel tired while exploring. It doesn't matter much if the giant space is empty or filled if players feel like they need to comb over a giant area looking for hidden secrets. Ocarina of Time has a comfortable size and a remake should preserve that. Instead of focusing on what other Zelda games did well which were not in the original game it would be better to focus on what Ocarina of Time did poorly to see if it can be improved as well as what the game already does well which can be expanded upon. I would take changes like a better fishing minigame and better horse controls before changing anything about the game's environments or tacking on new features. Things like being able to switch your boots using the D-pad and adding an aim indicator when using the slingshot or bow would be nice quality of life improvements that would help a remake shine. It's important to consider both fans of the original and new players when remaking a game. Other than that stuff, I do agree with you on the visuals and music :)
Yeap, oot was in fact remade for the 3ds whether you like it or not, people confuse reimaginings like resident evil 4 or Final Fantasy VII with remakes like Metroid Prime and oot 3d, which said remakes get confused with remasters, trust me that's how it used to be before game journalists came in and confused everybody, remakes change the games graphics completely especially the poly count on models, lighting, shadows, and most things graphics related and how they feel sometimes too, doesn't matter if the code was changed or not(which for most of them, including ports like Twilight Princess, has to change to a certain extent)
I like OOT 3D. I still say that is the definitive way to play it. However it is not a remake. Remakes are by definition made from the ground up. There are faithful remakes like RE1 Remake and looser ones like FF7 remake. Their entire code, graphics, and audio was redone. Remastering is as the word goes to remaster an existing product. Meaning they take the base product and clean it up. With OOT3D, they did exactly that. Took the base game and polished the graphics
A remake like this would be awesome I think you didn't mention it but it would be amazing to have cutscenes with voice acting in importan moments for the story, that would really elevate the impact of the story in my opinion Adding more stuff to that version of Hyrule in general is a great idea since the limitations of the n64 are no longer a problem. More villages and mabe caves or small dungeons would be a great adition.
I honestly hate the voice acting - I have to set Botw and Totk to French just to play them as I can imagine it's a made-up language and I can't tell if they're bad actors or not. I wish they'd go back to just letting us read the dialogue and imagine the voices for ourselves.
My suggestion for the graphics would be to replicate the art style of the promo art. There's a certain pokemon concept of using the original promo art in the same way.
1000000% this
I get the feeling not even the 3ds remasters did this. There was a lot of "90s shadowing" used for OoT/MM artwork, which only barely came out in the game itself (due to technical limitations obviously), but the 3DS versions look like they went for the Smash Bros. Melee type of lightning and general feel. The fan remakes tend try to reach hyperrealism, which always end up looking really really odd
Soul Calibur 2 Link could be a great example of it
Honestly, for the visuals, an OoT remake should just stick to the OoT3D art style but with higher poly models and sharper textures, or maybe use the Hyrule Warriors art style.
That's a good premise. It's stylized enough in Hyrule Warriors and not hyper realistic like an Unreal game either
@@TheObsessiveGamer They could the route of 2011 wii u tech demo, its tp but its style sure would fit ocarina but a few tweaks
@@Elchinodawn I personally feel that leaned too much into the whole Unreal remake catagory of it being TOO realistic here. Would work for a Twilight Princess remake though imo
I think breath of the wilds engine would do great
yeah cause 3ds and twilight princess werent enough remakes just yet…..
seriously wtf is wrong with people like you constanty begging for remakes ? 😴
scared of progress ?
i wanna see new games already
While this is a fantastic concept, the last thing I want on this planet is for Ocarina of Time, my favorite game, to take elements from Breath of the Wild, the only game I've ever hated. Looking back at what couldn't be done, instead of looking at where we are now, I believe, would be the perfect way to add to Ocarina of Time.
Yeah the shrines in BOTW got tired after BOTW, and after totk so many people including myself never wanna see a shrine again in our lives lol
While I agree that most of BOTW should not be replicated (ie. The non-linear structure and open world) there were still some good concepts like mini dungeons called shrines for example.
They could make shrines a part of the hidden grottos and very much optional.
But I agree, I really did not enjoy BOTW and because of that had zero interest in totk. Truly feel like Zelda spin-offs rather than a real Zelda game
@TigerTabCat1
I've enjoyed Botw and Totk for what they are, but I wholeheartedly agree that they don't feel like Zelda games and i have to do a TON of character customization to even look enough like Link to enjoy playing. Wtf they decided to hide any sort of green tunic until end game forcing you to peacemeal a bunch of random gear and dye it just to feel like the Hero is beyond me.
Not gonna lie I hated skyward sword more but idk totk being basically the same think as botw makes me hate the new series even more. I really don’t understand Nintendo’s decisions. Being stubborn must be in corporate Japan’s blood. Nintendo isn’t the only Japanese company that’s been ignoring its fans/customers for…decades at this point
My unrealistic expectations with a Remake or remaster of OOT.
- Ice Temple added
- Wind Temple added
- Light Temple added
- Sky temple added
- Real explorable Hyrule Castle letting us see the King of Hyrule since we never saw him in OOT.
- Early Pegasus's boots being obtainable after beating the running man. Running man quest will be available after Dodongos Cavern is cleared. This would make the big empty field easier to travel through.
- Let players swing the sword underwater.
-Free camera control option
-VR Support
- Let Adult Link use the boomerang
- Give all bosses more varied attacks
- HD Remake of the game that makes it look just like the official artwork.
-Option to remove the owl.
-Option to turn off Navi reminders
-Give Link the ability to use his sword on horse back
- let Link swing his sword while Moving.
-Give Link the ability to summon his horse faster using the reed whistle from the unused OOT files.
- Make Final Boss Gannon more harder by giving him more attacks and ability blocking attacks as well. Make him actually a challenge its unacceptable how much of an easy boss he was.
- Give us more history on the Sheikah
- A shop that lets players dye our tunics any colour we want in a shop.
- Let players use the medallions as defensive and offensive weapons.
- Add in Skulltulla houses from Majora Mask
- Add more Trees to Hyrule Field
- Add in more enemies on Hyrule Field
- Let Link upgrade his Master Sword like A Link between Words.
- Unicorn Fountains be added
- Final Master Sword upgrade lets Link use sword beam.
- For collecting 100% of everything shows a secret ending time skip into the future of Link training alone in a forest as he calls Epona setting up his next adventure into Majoras Mask.
Man I'd absolutely love that. I went with the lower expectations in method, but this would be the true wishlist
Agreed exept giving adult link a boomerang, I don't think he needs one tbh
>Let players swing the sword underwater.
Have you ever tried to swing *anything* underwater?
Granted, Twilight Princess did it.
>Give us more history on the Sheikah
Unironically this, although ninty did this with Botw/TofK and it was dumb af... like all the lore ninty's squirted out since Suckward Sword - so I'd just as soon ninty leave it alone at this point.
Oot 3d does look like the official artwork
dude its nintendo
no way in hell they’re gonna put this much effort into anything
Just upgrade the graphics, but stay at the darker artstyle. Add some more overworld like you mentioned.
But not with shrines, more with natural caves etc to explore.
Add some 2-3 dungeons, sidequests like in majora.
Im playing oot at the moment after some 10 years. And its still soooo good ❤
What do you mean darker style. This is one of the most vibrant games I've ever seen.
So incase everyone is confused again, this is part of the Informal/Comedy series and NOT Cut Content nor Gaming History. In Informal/Comedy videos, while it is informative and explores a topic or game, it is also more comedic and ranchier. Different series from the other two.
Cut Content and Gaming History are set to always be series hard documentaries and not comedies. So have no worries there
Ps. Next video is a Gaming History video followed by a Cut Content video
Is most of the info wrong for comedic effect too?
@@Esth.1 what info is wrong?
This was entertaining. Excellent job!
Is telling people to be ashamed for liking the Unreal Engine ones and telling people to shut up for thinking OoT 3D is a remake comedic? It just comes off as a bit rude and can turn people away
@@chaudspieler it clearly was a joke which quickly followed up there with "but don't actually".. .unless you literally exited right before that line?
every time I see ocarina I feel like I'm seeing a game from the future
Yeah weird feeling eh
Turning Ocarina of Time into a glorified modpack for Breath of the Wild isn't what I was thinking of.
1. No stamina meter! I've hated that thing since it was introduced in SS. Lol
2. I actually love the hyper realistic look.
3. Love the additions you suggested.
Agree. I also don’t like the stamina meter and prefer the realistic/semi-realistic approach
Agreed as well
Why don't you like the stamina meter?
Gotta be honest: I hope they dont make it like botw/totk. Besides being “bigger” there was nothing about those games that improved on oot’s tried and true formula.
Besides being objectively better games ;)
@@RohanSlazar Yes, BOW and TOFK are better games as they should be for their time period. Unfortunately OOT is by far superior for its time when released. OOT literally invented the Z target with every game uses to this day. Sit down boy.
Here from the future to let you know that the OoT remake turned out amazing because of outsourcing it to Bluepoint.
That would be a dream lol
That would be cool!
The artsyl should be like those cgi ads for the 3ds ver, ocarina of time 3ds stays true to the artstyle instead of changing it, as nice as it is to see others remake oot, we know nintendo can do it better if they even try to( i hope the do remake it someday plsss nintendo)
I think an artstyle with realistic shading could work, as Nintendo demonstrated in their first Zelda WiiU tech demo. I think that looked awesome. Kena Bridge of Spirits also demonstrated that a more realistic Pixar-style look could work quite well. But I also think a stylized approach may work best if you look at the specs of Nintendo consoles always being behind at least one generation.
Not to mention the creators of Kena Bridge of Spirits made amazing Majora's Mask fan-animations.
why would you want to turn OoT jusr into a mini botw. I think adding a shrine type mechanic to OoT is kinda silly. I think it just needs a more modern art style and minor changes or minor additions to the mechanics to modernize them a bit
So Ocarina of Time 3D. Okay
@@TheObsessiveGamer I think all we need is OoT 3d to be released on switch with better res and some updated visuals (more n64 like lighting). I think a faithful release like that would do a lot better than changing stuff. Plus you got mad at FF7R for changing too much and then proposed a bunch of changes to OoT like that’s any different conceptually.
@@gabreese_ the problem with FF7 remake was that it changed the plot and story. I proposed to keep the story the same. Making areas bigger and adding new dungeons/mini dungeons aren't so bad.
What you want however is more a Remaster rather than a remake. Which is perfectly fine :)
@@TheObsessiveGamer yeah you right, idk i just like the original game, i think a remake would kinda ruin the entire reasom people play OoT in modern day.. Like the reason people go to play OoT now is either for nostalgia, or to experience the roots of 3D zelda (most likely after playing botw or totk) Id rather nintendo just keep new versions of the old game faithfully remastered around so people can still experience the game that set the trajectory of 3D zelda.
@@TheObsessiveGamerHonestly I don't think that this was really a fair thing to say, what you brought up really is just mashing OOT and BOTW-lite together.
By the very nature of including a stamina meter and some measure of climbing and Shrines all over and expanding the map so much you're changing far too much of the original game's identity.
Ocarina of Time doesn't benefit from having these completely unlike systems just bap-bapped into one like a child smashing Legos into each other. You're going with a childhood imagination dream and giving very little overall thought to how these systems would interact or how they could potentially detract from what is already in the game.
For example, let's say that we have a bunch of Shrines all over the place. Now there are quick waypoints everywhere, and the warp songs have to compete for utility. It undermines the very title object of the game.
Similarly, if you expand the land too much and you don't add Shrine warp points, now you need to invent new songs to quick travel, or maybe include the Song of Soaring and owl statues all over, something like that.
If you grant Link incremental increases on a Stamina and it's used for climbing and running and it's not as developed as BOTW is on that front not only are plenty of people going to complain that it feels like a downgrade from that game but it's going to run into the issue of potentially making Link too powerful compared to his equipment. If Link is capable of doing all of these varied things without his gear we run into the issue of his toolkit merely becoming keys. They're there just to fulfil a specific arbitrary action rather than being something that extends his abilities beyond what he is capable of.
Think about how much you would have to change just in Dodongo's Cavern and the Forest Temple if you could climb up short walls even though you said not to change anything about them, and that's just one issue among many that come from this scattershot approach. How many of the Magic Bean segments would be completely pointless if you can climb? You want to include Stamina-fueled running mechanic in OOT, but have you given thought to how that would map onto the controls? Are you going to replace the roll; one of the main identities of the N64 era Zeldas, just to include a feature that people already complain about in BOTW?
It feels less like there's forethought in the cohesiveness of these opposing game designs, just a childhood wishlist that would result in an undercooked experience.
You're very correct about the issue with the whole "Nintendo, hire this man" phenomena, but outside of that you yourself only have a very vague idea of what you want from a remake, and it shows.
The reason that many of these things were cut from the original game isn't just time constraints or the capabilities of the N64, a number of them just did not mesh with the game's design or balance, which is why most of them were used in later games that changed up their mechanics to compensate.
If you want some genuine ways to design a remake you need to think about the things you want to include and then design methods of player interaction that facilitate that philosophy with purpose.
Here's some ideas:
• New lakeside settlement at Lake Hylia that leads up to the fencing that blocks it off from the rest of Hyrule. They have it blocked off because they've been left to fend for themselves from Gerudo raids, and they're not happy with the King right now because he's still entertaining peace talks with Ganondorf while not actually doing anything to mitigate their problems.
Bam.
There's some new story conflict, it's a good place for a new settlement, it allows you to have NPCs talk about the kooky scientist, you can do trade with the Zoras and Lon Lon Ranch here... Lots of potential.
While we're at it, consider opening up the far wall to the ocean for a small space similar to Great Bay in Majora's Mask, maybe we can include some aquatic activities here like sea fishing or diving for lost treasure.
• Instead of granting Link all of these physical buffs for things he can do on his own, I think it's better to look across the series for item ideas and combining concepts together. I think that finding ways to expand how the player's inventory interacts with the world is a great way to go about things.
Personally I always loved how the Iron Boots were magnetic in TP, and I love how you can mix the utility of items together in some games (bomb arrows and the long Pegasus Jump in Link's Awakening, for example.)
What about the potential to wear the Iron Boots, use the Hookshot to latch onto trees, and either pull the tree down to create a bridge or to bend the tree and unequip the boots to catapult yourself when the tree springs back up?
If we take BOTW's bullet time aiming we can leap off the cliff at Gerudo Valley and use the Hookshot to latch into a cave in the wall.
How about using the Megaton Hammer to launch Bombs like you're playing golf?
Attaching a Bomb to the Boomerang and then manually dropping it mid-flight?
There's a million new ideas or conceptsthat can be taken from across the series to expand how item interactions work, and some of those are going to lead to content that is worth exploring and implementing. Heck, if we're going to incorporate real forest areas with more trees then even something as simple as the Double Clawshot could be implemented.
• Personally I disagree about leaving the dungeons completely untouched. The game has too many box pushing and eyeball shooting puzzles for its own good. The majority of rooms are perfectly fine as-is, but there's definitely some puzzle changes or tweaks that could be done for the better, especially if we're altering how items work or the game mechanics in general. I don't think there's need to change more than 15% of them, but there's definitely some repeat stuff that could at least use touching up or reimagining.
• Instead of simply expanding the traversable land so much (some is acceptable though), how about we consider making child and adult areas more different from each other than they are currently? We have the ability to essentially double the scale of the game temporarily rather than horizontally, which allows for a serious reinterpretation of content.
We can expand the purposes of time travel with ideas inspired by Oracle of Ages too.
• Obvious things like being able to thaw Zora's Domain as an adult, more interaction between Gorons/Zoras/Hylians/Kokiri/Gerudo, expanding on the war that plagued Hyrule and Link's family (maybe finding a family tomb and getting something cool from it, or at least being able to find Link's mother's grave?), among other things.
Maybe we can actually get into the opening section of Majora's Mask before Link falls into Termina?
• Keep the combat focused on one on one duels because the game was the origin of targeting in the series, but include New mechanics for allowing the player to punish enemies for guarding for too long as well as clever use of items in combat.
For example, being able to toss a Bomb over an enemy and then swapping to the Hookshot allowing you to grab onto the tossed Bomb in mid-air, causing it to swing into the back of the enemy and make it explode and open them up for further Sword attacks. Maybe a guard breaker sword attack that costs Magic meter so that there's a cost to it but you have a limited option of breaking the pace of combat?
• How about instead of Shrines we expand the concept of secret grottos and incorporate ancient ruins across the land? They would be more tailor made for the areas that they're in, and instead of having 60 two room puzzle boxes everywhere we could have a handful of ten room mini dungeons that incorporate more advanced mechanics than the main game. We could even expand the royal tomb in a similar way.
Anyway, there's a lot of great ways to build on what is here without utterly nuking OOT's identity and changing it so much that they might as well have made an entirely new entry in the series.
I believe it's an unenviable task to visualise a modern slant of oot while maintaining its charm , it's soul. Essentially OOT is a work of genius emphasising music and integrating into gameplay while successfully compensating hardware limitations visually. It succeeds in escapism regardless of the limited palette for the canvas so to speak. Good luck to whoever is tasked with that job.
OoT only appears limited in contrast to modern graphics - having grown up with OoT, it never seemed anything but amazing to me, and every time I go back to it I get a massive sense of nostalgia and hints of the wonder I experienced as a kid.
Great video as always sir! I feel like this should be a no brainer for Nintendo to approach this project. Ocarina of time can be made even more majestic with some slight modernization as long as they don’t stray too far away from the game’s original vision. Honestly like you had stated if they updated it with the original concepts from the beta I think that alone would satisfy people. I’d love to see the original envisioning of the lost woods with the sunlight shimmering through the tall trees or even a new song introduced where it links you to a central hub similar to what Ganon’s castle would’ve been in getting you to quicker travel to certain areas. I 100% agree with removal of the skulleta side quest as that was more tedious/repetitive and one of my only few complaints about the game.
Honestly, the main thing I would love in a remake is more outfits to wear. That is the biggest benefit I loved about breath of the wild.
Maybe they could add like a total of 10 more sets to find.
Also maybe add more shields and swords that you can buy or find.
I'd enjoy tf out of that, but ONLY if the Kokiri and Hylian tunics were standard. I hate having to piece together random gear and dye it just to look close enough to Link to even play the game.
@@hanburgundy4317 oh yeah leave that the same but like add the BOTW hood, Gandforfs armor, things to make Link
Look like a bad ass mofo.
I really like this idea. Taking advantage of the newer hardware to bring us something that’s true to the spirit of the original. In addition to the stuff you talked about I’d want to see some cut/Ura Zelda content. I’m sure a lot of old fans would be mad about the changes/retcons, but when you compare these wild ideas to the MASSIVE canon/lore changes in Skyward Sword and BOTW/TOTK it’s relatively minor in comparison. I’d want the art style to be more realistic with some surrealistic elements. If they added some of the newer stuff from Twilight Princess like horse combat that would dramatically increase the game’s quality. Too bad we’ll most likely NEVER have this. Great video.
It would be interesting to know what you’d want added/changed in a Wind Waker remake (same goes for some other older Zeldas).
I hope we’ll eventually get cut content videos for Star Fox Adventures and Assault. Those would be interesting to see. Especially since we now have the Dinosaur Planet N64 build, and Assault was originally supposed to have branching paths like 64 and is also combined with this cancelled Star Fox arcade game.
The medallions could be actually used for something too, as they were intended to be. And perhaps have the functions they wanted with the expansion thing for the 64 that never got off the ground.
I can see the Spirit medallion for turning into Navi could be useful for the bigger Hyrule here
That would be cool! Games always reward the player with some big power up after a chapter completion, yeah you get a heart container.
But I can’t feel like something extra is missing after completing a Temple and recieving an elemental medallion.
OoT (N64) VS Cryzenx's OoT
IMO: I feel Unreal Engine makes everything look like they're covered in Vaseline; Like, stuff looks extremely glossy...
😲 - This video seems like a cool because I can't of any art style that would make OoT look disgusting!
Seems you guys share a lot of ideas that this video actually may discuss such as the gloss that the video does plan to discuss :) Hope you enjoy!
Unreal engine doesn't make things look like covered in Vaseline . It's the developer and think about it a one man development it's crazy that they would polish it like a AAA studio .
Just look at yoshi crafted world , that was developed in unreal engine and looks nothing like it . A game engine doesn't make the graphics but it's a framework
@@eduardotepoxteca9171 - That's my opinion on one specific thing; I'm mostly referring to Cryzenx's Unreal Engine 4/5 remake of OoT...
I'm not factoring in other games like Yoshi's Crafter World because that's a completely different game...
@@eduardotepoxteca9171 Yeah, it has a lot to do with the lighting, the specularity of the materials, etc. Skin and hair are treated with the same level of shine the metals are, and it ends up giving the game a freshly waxed look. Unreal Engine would be perfect, if creators weren't too invested in trying to make everything reflect like a mirror. I think Ocarina of Time can be given a good mix between gritty realism and that anime look, it doesn't necessarily need to be cell shaded. Just don't focus on making the characters faces and hair look too overly real, but cloth should look like cloth, grass should look like grass, different surfaces should reflect light differently, etc. I think the modern Final Fantasy's style could work with Zelda, but maybe blur the line a bit more between fantasy and reality. It should still more or less fit the art style of Ocarina of Time. That original game has such a charm and I don't think you want to veer too far away from it. I mean, at it's heart, it's a platformer...not a lot of realism to temples you're jumping from ledge to ledge and hookshotting up to.
This is one of your best videos I have seen in a while, Obsessive Gamer!
I can tell you are very passionate about Zelda, like myself!
Haha thanks! I had a lot of fun making it. Glad you enjoyed it this much :D
I don’t like the art style or visuals of the fan made games. I don’t want a plastic look to the game. I like the 3ds style. I never had a reason to play the n64 version cuz the 3ds is the definitive version. The 3ds game still holds up today.
SEGA HIRE THIS MAN
Me referencing Yakuza there should be credit enough :P
Everything you said pretty much is exactly what I’ve been dreaming of. Only thing is I’d vouch for instead of shrines there being ground holes or something. Don’t want a weird ancient tech vibe associated. There could be themed caves depending on the area you’re in and stuff. That would be so cool
Yeah shrines were more an example of what I meant. The idea was mini dungeons, so ground holes would work if expanded into them
A remake with the Ghibli formula would be awesome. Baldo for example, a beautiful game.
I still see the soul calibur 2 Link model as a strong argument that that should be the way to go with the art style. We shouldn’t be subjective about remaking it on cel shading or realistic like the model you showed, because in that case I too have a taste and I dislike Cel-Shading, just make it like it was supposed to be, like the 1998 original artwork, hence like the soul calibur 2 Link model. And the original developers of OoT should comeback to do it, like Yoshiaki Koizumi, if not we’ll get another unfaithful re-imagining of OoT
I loved the art style of link’s awakening
Yeah, one of the best looking games with 3D graphics ever made.
I always would have liked to seen a Light Temple with a boss that emanates light from its body to blind you momentarily so it can attack
I think an Ocarina of Time Remake should start off with a badass Old Man Link in a far distant Hyrule. After, you beat three dungeons, you go to the Temple of Time, and return the Master Sword where you time travel back to the start of Ocarina of Time. It would be a great way to recapture the twist of the original.
After you unlock the Master Sword again, you’d be able to travel between three timelines: Child, Adult, and Old Man.
It would be a full remake but also a new game at the same time.
9:22 I was distracted and actually got jump scared lol
Didn't expect that reaction lol
Me too lol
One thing I'd like for a true Ocarina remake is collecting memories like in BOTW and TOTK that can be unlocked after getting medallions from each sage. It would show their POV during the 7-year timeskip for character development.
Also, medallions should unlock powers for Link to use.
Also, reduce linearity; play the temples in any order you want!
I loved the linearity, to be honest; it made the games feel like a progression, like you were actually earning something and working through progressively harder areas that you couldn't have conquered any earlier, and made it feel like an epic story. Nowadays, the games (Botw, Totk) feel like a big sandbox where nothing really matters. I loved the old formula so much and it's sad to see them go in such a drastically different direction.
The original idea for OoT during beta would've been to actually make medallions useable, since as far as I know there's still beta content left on the cartridge that heavily implies that, however that ideas was scrapped late in development.
I though i was watching a video from a huge well established channel until i saw the like number at 13:31 . Keep up the great content! I love the quality of this video and I'm sure you'll get a ton of recognition soon enough
The amount of times I hear this lol thank you very much! hopefully soon we will especially explode
There's actually a lot of potential here considering the amount of cut content from the original game and how the story was recontextualised in future titles.
- See places like Snowpeak and Ordon Village from Twilight Princess considering it takes place in the same world
- After Link lifts the Master Sword, you don't immediately wake up but can instead play as Sheik during the 7 year timeskip. This section could be a couple dungeons long
- Committing the the idea further, Sheik will act as a companion and 2nd playable character for the Adult section of the game. So Zelda is a part of the story instead of sitting on the sidelines
- Smash Bros already made generations of people think she was this cool ninja fighter, time to deliver on that promise
- Skull Kid having a bigger role so we see understand the friendship between him and Link in Majora's Mask
- The ending sees a montage of the future of Hyrule, including the return of Ganon and the Great Flood, leading into The Wind Waker
- An alternate ending where Link can choose to stay in the future and help rebuild Hyrule. It'd be a nice message about not being dictated by past attachments and to always move forward even after a great tragedy
12:17 special effects are amazing. great content as always
I would really love an OOT remake with the style of the picture of OOT link you pulled up, mixed with ff7 remake graphics. That would be a day one purchase for me.
Apart from that, I would say making the world a bit bigger but still keeping the handcrafted feel and experience.
Finally adding back some cut content like the medallions actually doing things and some new content as well.
I feel like a fully HD realised version of how OOT3D looked would be great, lighting in that game especially was great
This was my favourite video from you so far! The editing was amazing, you seem to really have found your flow! Congratulations!
Thank you! You can say this editing style is more me unchained lol
eh I think we should add more screentime with some other characters or more dialogue, like saria, deku tree, daruna, rito, zelda, etc. so that we can be more emotionally invested in them. Because their relationships with Link weren't as convincing and well earned as it should've been which is understandable due to the n64's limited hardware and such in terms of conveying that. Also, maybe even with some cutscenes make Link emote a bit more because like for example with saria when he was leaving the forest for the first time, it seems like he doesn't even care about the moment at all, he just takes the ocarina and just leaves.
I think one of the best attempts I've seen of an OOT remake visually is the aptly named "Ocarina of Time Visual Remake" - there's little to no actual gameplay in the project, and it's instead entirely focused on remaking the models in the game. I think it strikes the perfect balance between stylized and realistic, taking advantage of modern graphics while still respecting the original's artistic intent.
By all means I love the idea of a more anime-styled, cel shaded OOT (I'm literally working on something like this rn lol) but it just wouldn't feel right for a proper remake, for all the opposite reasons of most unreal remakes.
This is quite the hot take and many smarter, more competent users have left their thoughts here, but-
-Adding a larger map with towns would introduce a whole slew of changes to the way the game plays and feels.
If you gave the mask salesman more masks to sell requiring further exploration it could work, but that's just bloating an already existing quest.
And having shops spread out through the towns wouldn't make sense because it's solving a problem that a larger map creates; if the map was the same size than shop placement wouldn't need to change.
How would npcs in the towns serve any unique purpose? What unique reward would make it worth exploring? Rupees are already easy enough to get in game, and other items can be gotten from cutting grass. If they gave you a new item then the entire game would have to change to properly incorporate that new item.
-Shrines??? STAMINA??? Easy one to knock of is stamina and climbing, because that would fundamentally BREAK almost every single obstacle and puzzle in the game. And if your reconstructing the dungeons from the ground up in order to incorporate these new additions then your striving to far from the source material.
Shrines giving heart or stamina vessels is a terrible idea. Having link become some total powerhouse mid game would break the flow and challenge. Though if there were 6 mini dungeons, and the reward was adding an ability to your medallions, that would be cool. Since it's building off of what's already in the game.
If the map was just slightly larger and had more enemy placement to utilize the games combat, you could have some kind of item ability upgrade, not strength but tactics.
-Adding new dungeons or towns would change the flow of the game, or even bits of the story. But if they don't, then they don't serve much of a purpose outside of gameplay which would just be filler.
-It feels like a mashup of BotW and OoT with the way you describe it, and if you enjoy BotW's gameplay style that's fine, but your taste shouldn't be the basis for changing a game that plays completely differently.
But yeah however Nintendo does it we def need blood effects brought back.
cheers.
A subjectively "good" remake of 'Ocarina of Time' should in my opinion atleast entail:
>>A modernized graphical update (and NO, "just make it like OoT3D with higher poly models" is NOT ENOUGH)
>>Incorporating beta elements from the N64 days (like useable medallions and actually being able to thaw Zoras Domain)
>>Getting rid of all loading screens and meshing the environments together seamlessly, perhaps while adding more environments ontop to expand the existing areas from the original game
>>Varied boss behaviours (to spice things up for veterans)
>>Add some customizeability (akin to what can be done in BotW/TotK)
>>Add a Light Temple (for Raurus' sake, since every other sage got one)
>>Expand Links' moveset (perhaps to something akin to BotW, but PLEASE no funky Zonai-esque devices that allow us to cheese everything)
What OoT really needs to feel like it did when it released is content in Hyrule Field. Coming back to it now, it's just an empty wasteland but at the time it felt like an expansive real place.
Bringing back some of MM's ideas with people having schedules would be a good idea, so for instance you'd get more NPCs going on treks around Hyrule who you could bump into and like in BotW they'd have contextual dialogue based on what is going on. Weather cycle would tie into that (overridden by key events)
crab battle reference is such a deep cut
Why do you guys the PRONOUNCED NES AND SNES LIKE THAT? No one EVER pronounced it like that.
Just like how in videos he says "killer app" when referring a game. I feel you 😔
Everyone is obsessed with the visuals and pixel fidelity when that has never been the point, its well-integrated mechanics and quality of life changes.
This man made me smile and I haven’t smiled in a while
I'd pay 100€ for that remake man, you're a genius. I fully agree with your ideas.
I actually think a realistic Zelda game could work if done properly. And considering there's a live action movie coming, the game could be released either before or after the movie, with each potential release date achieving different goals. If it comes before the movie, it would likely be with the intention of easing the player base into the very idea of a realistic Zelda, making the fanbase as a whole more accepting of the idea of a live action movie, especially if the realistic game is successful. On the other hand, releasing after the movie will very obviously be meant to capitalize on the movie's success. It would even be possible that the live action movie would be a test for how people would react to a realistic Zelda, before releasing a game in that vein.
This would be incredible for sure. Dunno if a proper remake will ever happen, but for now I'm just happy with the work being done on Ship of Harkinian.
You deserve way more subs man! Amazing content!
The fellow that makes those Unreal Engine Ocarina of Time demos clearly enjoys what he does and puts a lot of work into them but it results in almost everything having a freakish uncanny valley quality when redesigned to be that hyper realistic and still maintain the same relative proportions. The face of his Child Link model is unsettling, it reminds me of that realistic painting of Homer Simpson with the giant veiny eyes.
put the light temple as a final child dungeon through the door of time to get to the pedestal, but make it a step up in difficulty from the other 3 child dungeons
This works very well too. Could be in a way that the light temple eventually became the Temple of Time Dungeon in Twilight Princess that way
So, basically do Ocarina of Time but with the BotW mechanics and engine. I think they should add content to connect Ocarina to Majora's since it's the sequel. Maybe a sidequest adding the heroes of Termina visiting Hyrule or something like that, plus include an extra Temple after beating Ganondorf. Maybe one inside the Temple of Time where you need to change from kid to teen Link as a main mechanic.
I think if any added temple would be added, it should absolutely be the wind temple or the ice temple tbh.
BOTW's Havok engine wouldn't be suitable since that worked for an open world game and I don't think it should stay open world. Rather just have a more muted celshaded artstyle while featuring shrines from it.
I do like your ideas for additions. Connecting the two games sounds like a no-brainer
Just take the map and scale it proportional so the outside of the buildings are the same size as the insides. Then you got a world map that's open, but still small enough to contain everything seamlessly
finally someone who understands
nevermind you lost me at the shrines
My guess would be for the Triforce ending when you obtain all the medalions you can enter into the sacred realm in a Twilight princess style temple of time kind of way and use new abilities that the medalions give you to do one final dungeon to obtain or awaken the triforce of courage
Taking inspiration from the beta features that were dropped, like the Sage Medallions giving you various powers, makes sense. Putting in the missing Temple of Light that should accompany Rauru’s Sage Medallion makes sense. Expanding the scale of Hyrule somewhat and making previously inaccessible areas explorable makes sense.
Ocarina of Time should never be made to be reminiscent of Breath of the Wild. Ocarina of Time belonged to a different era, when Zelda games were still Zelda games. I know a lot of people loved Breath of the Wild, but I think it represents the point at which the game series died, at least the main series.
If they made ocarina with something that looks like the berserk 97 anime then I'd think that'd be perfect
If they do remake it I would like to see them have an alternate ending where Link loses to lead into LTTP.
Thank you for calling out FF7 'Remake'. It doesn't even belong under the title of remakes since... it isn't.
The new multiverse stuff they added is downright awful. It's becoming as nonsensical as Kingdom Heats.
It is a remake...just not a very faithful one in some spots... especially the story... I still did enjoy it for what it was and hope Rebirth is better
I'd like to see a cyber punk Zelda with Epona being a motorcycle and Ganon being a corrupt politician. Either anime or comic book style like Wolf Among Us, or just realistic.
I don't think they need to worry about the integrity of the original content. We've all played the game. What you are suggesting is the right way to go about it. It needs to be a reimagining. A longer game that suits modern audiences. Expand the stories, areas, more towns, more quests. Doesn't need to be a Trilogy like FFVII Remake. That's an extreme example.
To be honest, I don't agree with the Triforce questline. Sure it sounds fun on paper but it will really, really drag out the ending of the story. Also, Wind Waker already has a Triforce questline and people hated it.
Other than that, loved everything else.
I saw the title of this video and thought "literally who asked?" but ended up subscribing by the end of the video.
Heh, I love that you gave me a chance there :D
More or less how I feel about a remake. Make Hyrule larger with more side quests, possibly a new dungeon, and I would even argue slightly tweaked dungeons. However, the idea of making the Master Quest dungeons sort of a post-game is pretty cool.
I'm not sure if I want this remake to have the same artstyle as BOTW, I'd want it to stand out. Personally, I feel like they could get realism to work with Zelda as long as it's heavily-stylized realism, which is the artstyle I'd like to see with an OoT remake.
The stamina gauge is dumb. Also i would bring back the beta maps for oot Remake and the medallions being usable a big change. And change the lost woods to beta lost woods and beta enemies and beta dungeons.
I mean some of that is what I did propose here too
I'd honestly love a remaster with Twilight Princess HD graphics. Add in a few things to the "empty" areas, but don't change or remove a thing; I'd want the same experience just updated, otherwise it wouldn't feel like OoT. As fun and new as the FFVII remake was, it didn't feel like FFVII.
FF7R isn't a retcon at all, it's a reimagining that's supposed to coexist with the OG. The only ones disappointed by it were "old good, new bad" people
>called remake
>Actually a reimagining
Heck
@@TheObsessiveGamer you didn't read up on what you spoke about...Nomura talks about why they named it Remake lol
No stamina gage please 🥺
Definitely want a remake with actual gameplay changes, graphical remakes just feel so boring. I like many of your ideas. One thing I'd like to add is I'd like them to change up how you get the titular Ocarina of Time. Having Zelda just chuck it in the water and Ganondorf not noticing any of it (I know that he just lets us open it to waltz right in after us but it still feels dumb and unrealistic) just feels like a cheap cop out. They should have you go on a proper quest to get it after Zelda escapes from Ganondorf. Maybe Zelda or Impa leaves you a message telling you where to find it, maybe you go back to Zelda's courtyard and find a secret chamber to obtain it (perhaps serving as a 4th child dungeon or mini dungeon, which could also help to better bridge the gap between the child and adult dungeons), something like that would really give that part of the game the proper tension and drama it needs instead of feeling like it's just rushing you along to future Hyrule.
I actually would prefer an updated port with new graphics similar to oot 3D. That way it would still be full of beautiful glitches. An actual remake would feel weird unless they add more to the story.
The remake of FF7 from turn based to live action killed it for me immediately. I was so disappointed that it was not a 1 to 1 port.
Hearing you talk about what Ocarina of Time would look like if it were to receive a Remake made me want to ask how would you define re-releases of video games by the terms that actually describe them and not the terms that Publishers use to sell them. A guy called Lextorias made a video titled “Why Do We Keep Remaking Games” that helped me understand the difference between the terms of game releases and I wanted to hear your take on the matter?
Maybe not Ocarina, but with rumors of the next console circulating around and the fact that we just got TOTK, I think the next zelda game that isn't main series will probably be A) A port of Twilight Princess HD to the new console B) A new 2D game like ALBW, Link's Awakening, or ALTTP or C) A remaster of one of the games that hasn't gotten one yet. Just a little something to hold us over till the next big main line game and so Zelda fans can have something to look forward to at the beginning of the new console. And now that BOTW/TOTK have brought in a lot more new fans, I'm betting on a remaster (or more preferably, a remake) of an old game to reach more people.
And i just thought of this after, it could be a spinoff like Hyrule Warriors or something. Whatever it may be, I can't wait.
The art style from a remake of Ocarine should be close to the Hyrule Warriors and maybe with less saturated color. That will be perfect
Long time no see my friend
Indeed :)
I really like the concept your proposing. Some stuff would need changing, like the shrines for example, and some stuff would need scope gauging like the open world, but it would be interesting to try and potentially create some conceptual documents, maybe some concept art, maybe even a prototype build. I gotta say, you've really peaked my interest, maybe I could try and make a conceptual project out of it, if not an actual fan project. Would be unlikely for it to turn into an actual game, but it could be interesting.
The 3DS version was amazing. I doubt that Nintendo is going to make anything similar any time soon, but I believe the fan made Render98 port for PC is on the right track. Similar to the SM64 Render96 port, it aims to replicate the original promo art style.
I actually just want them to go the A Link Between Worlds route and make a new game in the same world xD
No stamina wheel just to frustrate players with "come back later". Filling a bar is not as fun as finding a new item that opens new ways, and having to remember where to use it now. And dungeons, change them entirely! It's a remake, we played the original dungeons already.
No, Ocarina of Time should *NOT* be cel-shaded. Just because later 3D games in the series are cel-shaded, does not mean the toon look defines the entire series. Just because Aonuma disliked realism in Legend of Zelda, doesn't mean he's the only developer as Miyamoto asked Aonuma to stick with realism.
Ocarina and Twilight Princess are closer together as the more realistic-looking anime designs, thus Ocarina's remade graphics should lean closer to 2000 Spaceworld Tech Demo, 2011 Wii U Tech Demo, or Link in Soul Calibur. That is how that Link was designed to look in higher fidelity.
Tbh Link in Soul Calibur was more a Link is what a realistic Link could look like.
However OOT and TP both were still using older hardware that wasn't hyper realistic and thus the models for well despite being anime inspired
Imo the spaceworld 2000 and 2011 tech demos didn't look right. Link looked too plasticy in both.
If they were to remake it in a non-toon style, Hyrule Warriors would probably be your best bet actually.
The celshading however is only brought up cause the idea is to replicate official art here as closely as possible. Granted my take on it is to tone it back from BOTW and be more a balance as I mentioned. But that's my opinion.
Everyone's opinion is valid here :)
I agree that an OoT remake needs to double down on the creepy factor. Expand the already existing maps, upgrade the game mechanics and characters and burn the Koroks! I mean protect the Kokiri! Tbf they could also one some of the beta ideas. Like some extra dungeons or post game content. And no I don't mean Majora's Mask.
Honestly if they were to remake this I'd be totally fine with the old graphics, maybe just a few QOL enhancements. And a few more side quests, or even times events like in MM. I couldn't stand what they did to the graphics in OoT3D and since remakes usually get ruined by stuff lile that I'd hope they would just keep most of that the same as it is.
I can wait on an ocarina of time remake if we could get something like the finish cap remake. In the style of links awakening for switch.
I want that Zelda game they showed off as a Tech Demo for the Wii U
Things I want from OOT Remake:
Not have the early game be nothing but a bunch of cutscenes. It takes SO long for the game to get going. Which brings me to my next point...
Hyrule Field is empty AF. Link to the Past and Zelda 1 had MASSIVE overworlds that you could explore before you took on the first dungeon. Even Zelda 2 and Awakening at optional stuff you could mess around with to get more powerful if you wanted to. This leaves you stuck with 3 heart containers and not much else until you get out of Kokiri forest and then it's a WHOLE lot of nothing for awhile.
Speaking of empty, Future Hyrule is not Dark World. Dark World has all of Gannon's minions hunting you down and making life hell for people that aren't him. He had seven years and he just sits in his castle playing his organ. What exactly is his endgame plan again? He's won. He's got power and the kingdom, and he does... what exactly?
The bosses on OoT were huge pussies. Aquamentus takes i think seven+ hits to kill and deals a whole heart container of damage, AND he can 3 way ranged lasers. And your shield is useless. I know if you get *EVERYTHING* from the overworld available to you (5-6 hearts, blue ring, white sword, magic shield, bow) then you can just spank his ass. But either way a victory is earned. Mazura is the first boss of Zelda 2... he's a Zelda II boss, enough said. Zelda 3 has six statues and even though it's a simple predictable pattern, it can take awhi.... dood there is things can do 2 heart of damage in that game... in the overworld, and you come out of the tutorial @ 4 hearts. Awakening has Moldorm that can kill in 3 hits and the only savign grace is that you can bail on him and you don't get healing medicine until after. Gohma can be killed in 15 seconds and has grass with hearts in his room.
Also stop giving Navi and Kaepora Gaebora sh*t. I think they are awesome.
i would love to get Ura Zelda stuff, like Wind, light, sky, Ice, earth temples (or dark world), Hyrule castle as it was on Beta, expanded hyrule field and beta/botw style lost woods (let's be real, nobody is going to miss oot one), expanded gerudo desert, new locations from other games such as ordon village or hateno, graphics could be just like e3 2011 tech demo nintendo made for the wii u, pretty sure that a next gen Nintendo console should be able to do that, more enemies and finally find the triforce, it ain't happening but it would be the best remake of all time
As much as I'd love all that, to be fair the Wind and Ice Temples weren't ever made as seperate temples from the Forest and Water temples based on more recent discoveries of the beta dungeons. I personally think they renamed those in the end to what we had cause of the lack of enough elements to work with.
Regardless would love all of that
I d love to play a remastered, Tears of the kingdom graphics like open world Ocarina of time. That in my opinion would be Nintendo s greatest achievement. Oh and I want the triforce back.
Let's be honest, A sprint button would be nice for OOT, but nothing else.
great video, earned my sub and my soul!
4:24 Brah, this IS anime art style plus realism just like what you complained about here. 4:00 Both are true interpretations of original art style plus realism. Are you forgetting about the artwork for each game???
You cant just go off of in game graphics because games couldn’t reflect the art style like we can now.
Cloud has a “V” shaped anime chin and big eyes with anime spike hair. Exactly like the drawings.
Favorite UA-camr!!
Heh thanks!
You're gonna make Cryzen Cry 🤣
Rofl. Well tbh I don't discredit his work. He did as I stated in the video, just a pure remaking rather than going so much for adapting to a new artstyle lol
I think the more likely scenario is Nintendo comes up with so many new things, they just decide to make a new game. I reckon thats why their remakes often remain pretty faithful, they'd rather flesh out new ideas in new games to fully explore them. Especially as they wouldn't simply just make new OoT-style dungeons or whatever, but probably more fundamental changes. Think like how the new abilities in Tears of the Kingdom entirely change how to play the game. That's how we end up with something like A Link Between Worlds.
I know most people think Nintendo just half-assess and under delivers on remakes, and there's truth there, but I think they would rather just focus on whole new experiences over re-treading what they've done. Ocarina of Time has been done, it is what it is, and it is great! Time to see what's next.
I don't think you fully considered how adding features like a stamina bar or additional challenges like shrines would influence the gameplay. Stamina would undoubtedly make things more tedious and it would probably make certain parts in the dungeons a little bit harder. Just in the first dungeon alone that should be clear with how much climbing you would have to do before you have any way to increase your max stamina. You also don't gain anything by making the world bigger and then adding sprinting to let you move faster. Even if you litter the larger map with shrines or other side quest content you would only make players feel tired while exploring. It doesn't matter much if the giant space is empty or filled if players feel like they need to comb over a giant area looking for hidden secrets. Ocarina of Time has a comfortable size and a remake should preserve that. Instead of focusing on what other Zelda games did well which were not in the original game it would be better to focus on what Ocarina of Time did poorly to see if it can be improved as well as what the game already does well which can be expanded upon. I would take changes like a better fishing minigame and better horse controls before changing anything about the game's environments or tacking on new features. Things like being able to switch your boots using the D-pad and adding an aim indicator when using the slingshot or bow would be nice quality of life improvements that would help a remake shine. It's important to consider both fans of the original and new players when remaking a game.
Other than that stuff, I do agree with you on the visuals and music :)
Nah. I want a realistic oot remake. Always wanted it even back when oot was new. I hate the direction Nintendo took Zelda starting with skyward sword
Yeap, oot was in fact remade for the 3ds whether you like it or not, people confuse reimaginings like resident evil 4 or Final Fantasy VII with remakes like Metroid Prime and oot 3d, which said remakes get confused with remasters, trust me that's how it used to be before game journalists came in and confused everybody, remakes change the games graphics completely especially the poly count on models, lighting, shadows, and most things graphics related and how they feel sometimes too, doesn't matter if the code was changed or not(which for most of them, including ports like Twilight Princess, has to change to a certain extent)
I like OOT 3D. I still say that is the definitive way to play it. However it is not a remake. Remakes are by definition made from the ground up. There are faithful remakes like RE1 Remake and looser ones like FF7 remake.
Their entire code, graphics, and audio was redone.
Remastering is as the word goes to remaster an existing product. Meaning they take the base product and clean it up. With OOT3D, they did exactly that. Took the base game and polished the graphics
A remake like this would be awesome
I think you didn't mention it but it would be amazing to have cutscenes with voice acting in importan moments for the story, that would really elevate the impact of the story in my opinion
Adding more stuff to that version of Hyrule in general is a great idea since the limitations of the n64 are no longer a problem. More villages and mabe caves or small dungeons would be a great adition.
I honestly hate the voice acting - I have to set Botw and Totk to French just to play them as I can imagine it's a made-up language and I can't tell if they're bad actors or not. I wish they'd go back to just letting us read the dialogue and imagine the voices for ourselves.
if somehow they could make it look like the N64 manual artwork like cell shaded...take my money.