What makes something art?

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    What is art? What makes art good? How can we compare art? Is this video art? From stick shelters to video games, from film and cinema to paintings, let's discuss art.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 214

  • @TheSinisterkelly
    @TheSinisterkelly 6 років тому +127

    This comment is an art

  • @abstrktbnni
    @abstrktbnni 2 роки тому +52

    "The difference between a checklist and a poem is that it produces feelings".
    My checklist makes me feel sad, angry, depressed, and lonely. In fact, the electric bill I received yesterday made me feel the same.

  • @theriffwriter2194
    @theriffwriter2194 6 років тому +48

    I've always considered art manifesting emotion into physical form. Good art can make others feel it.

    • @zupremo9141
      @zupremo9141 5 років тому +4

      I personally experienced smelling rain and river when looking at some art that depicted them. I think that's why some people are willing to pay so much money for them, it amazes them that such things can be experienced just by looking at them.

  • @god8020
    @god8020 5 років тому +70

    What was the goal?
    Did they achieve it?
    Was it worth it?
    The first two questions is what we can more or less objectively judge in an art piece. But the last question is what makes this a little bit tricky and forces us to call art subjective. Who's to say what's worth it and what's not?

    • @xmbg29x
      @xmbg29x 3 роки тому

      i like how this is in one of my questions and this was posted 2 yrs ago

    • @syntaxerror2409
      @syntaxerror2409 2 роки тому

      @@xmbg29x same here

  • @gabeelliot
    @gabeelliot 7 років тому +155

    Great essay, really liked the pacing, structure, and music choice. If the goal was to get me thinking more about expression and meaning then I'd say you achieved that and it was definitely worth it. But, is it art? Did it make me feel something or focus on an experience / build empathy? Harder to say. The video has elements of creative art, performance art as well as craftsmanship. Like design though, it seems to have a practical purpose to educate or stimulate discussion. If someone asked me what this video was my first thought wouldn't be "art". Maybe it's like, "also art" or "art, as well". Good question. Keep making more!

    • @REOsama
      @REOsama 5 років тому +2

      the pacing is terrible in my opinion, the video needs to be paused to be understood, although the content is really good, the presentation is poor in my opinion

    • @EdLrandom
      @EdLrandom 4 роки тому

      @@REOsama So just pause the video, don't you know how to press a space bar? This is not a TV

    • @KukulyJazz
      @KukulyJazz 3 роки тому +1

      @@REOsama The presentation in general is at least good. The pacing as in the 'flow' was great (the way it goes from one thought to the next). Maybe the speed was a bit fast but it does not take merit from the whole of the presentation.

  • @cliffthompson2033
    @cliffthompson2033 4 роки тому +1

    This is the best video on art and the issue of definition and critique that I've ever seen. I'm furiously taking notes as I want to use this with my students. So good. Thank you

  • @Bluefavcolor
    @Bluefavcolor 3 роки тому +2

    Man, thank you so much for making this. I really enjoyed watching it and it answered all the questions I was having on this subject. much love

  • @Mu3azOsman
    @Mu3azOsman 7 років тому +38

    Is this video art? Yes!

  • @georgeedward1226
    @georgeedward1226 7 місяців тому +2

    Art is something interesting to look at for about 5 seconds.

  • @multidwee
    @multidwee 7 років тому +42

    keep em coming, you deserve recognition

  • @KukulyJazz
    @KukulyJazz 3 роки тому +1

    What a great video! Thanks for uploading. I will be writing my own essay (for myself) and will use this as a guide.

  • @user-fp6pi6wi5l
    @user-fp6pi6wi5l 6 років тому +20

    Interesting video. And about your last question. Your video had purpose: to answer the question. It was expression of your creative skill and it made as feel interest and curiosity, so it is art. And actually, it had a goal, it achieved it, and it was worth it.

  • @iivanov6006
    @iivanov6006 3 роки тому +7

    Almost exactly my thoughts, neatly put in one short video. I have one addition thought - I belive art can either make you feel or think. Best of art can make you do both.
    It seems to me there is two types of beauty - the beauty of feeling and beauty of idea. The first one is picture with beutiful landscape, relaxing piano music or romantic novel. The other one is like plot twist in book (especially in detectives), game strategy (especially ideas people use in speedruns), engeenering trick(like those who make seemingly difficult tasks easy), bizzare science concept (especially those things in advanced physics and math). It might be fall into "design" category but I'm don't feel like it's right words for this things.

  • @FishDish
    @FishDish 6 років тому +4

    Thank you so much
    The only person on UA-cam that you can get info in is seconds
    Thanks for not spending 10 minutes on the Intro
    Helped me so much!

  • @XINN1X
    @XINN1X 7 років тому +12

    Thanks for switching from the loud retro music to the chill hop style

  • @JJ13..
    @JJ13.. 3 роки тому

    YES! this video is art. Just the fact of the editing part..UFF this is some quality art from my perspective.

  • @PixPunxel
    @PixPunxel 7 років тому +1

    Very good video. As artist , designer, art student. I have asked myself this question many times. And have engaged in such discussions very often. Even in my work field, where i witnessed non classic educated illustrators ( awesomely skilled none the less ) comment with disgusts on modern and abstract art.

  • @dirtyeffers2914
    @dirtyeffers2914 4 роки тому

    You should keep doing video essays! this is awesome

  • @flowtrotters12230
    @flowtrotters12230 3 роки тому

    Here for my class about art, and i was satisfied by the questions revolving "what is art"?

  • @tobiawesomeface7979
    @tobiawesomeface7979 4 роки тому

    My new favorite channel

  • @jplovetodance
    @jplovetodance 4 роки тому

    The quality of this video is on another level. Wow

  • @adamcochran7950
    @adamcochran7950 4 роки тому

    Great video, really well done. I’m gonna save this for my students later.

  • @crabrave5690
    @crabrave5690 3 роки тому

    this is really helpful for my philosophy class! thank you!

  • @Mio_devious
    @Mio_devious 3 роки тому

    I don’t know if my work is “worth it” but I’ll keep on drawing. Thank you for reminding me!

  • @amarylissilvafrizzo3495
    @amarylissilvafrizzo3495 3 роки тому +2

    What a great video!
    I'm Brazilian and would love to add the subtitles for it in Portuguese! For that to happen the creator has to give permission to contributions, not sure how though...

  • @user-mw4lu6tw7l
    @user-mw4lu6tw7l Рік тому +1

    Art is like a switch once turned on it won't be turned off unless stopped.

  • @RipzDontCare
    @RipzDontCare 7 років тому +6

    Very toned down from your first few, kind of a bitter sweet for me, i liked the info coming in fast and exciting and to the point but this way is more relaxing and gives you more time to think about the subjects, questions, and so on. Either way. Well done!

  • @oa2952
    @oa2952 7 років тому +14

    this is a hidden gem!

  • @fxckumike
    @fxckumike 4 роки тому

    this video is art! perfect your video, helped me for the English arts test that I'm going to do here in Brazil

  • @tuozecarart1729
    @tuozecarart1729 6 років тому

    Thanks for video! I remember reading somewhere news article that someone (nintendo?) tried to get approval of some art academy to call video games officially "art" but that was denied because commitee saw that because in video games, because you collect points its not art. I cant remember anything else about it. Definition of art still interest me because it is so hard to determine and things like modern art installations just increase confusion

  • @doublej7545
    @doublej7545 2 роки тому

    Yes, this video is art. The medium or style is digital design art. You used your skills to create this presentation with other artists' clips, photos, etc. The video is provided for viewers' education making it purposeful. Therefore it's functional and allows viewers to interpret your understanding of art. You did a very good job breaking down the concept of art and the many facets of the subject.

  • @GodinciOrg
    @GodinciOrg 5 років тому +11

    Great video!!!
    In regard to your question "is this video art?" I must say no. Although it clearly conveyed a message and achieved its intended goal, It did so by playing in on REASON; My feelings here were secondary.
    Again great job!!!

  • @user-rt8fh4fk8f
    @user-rt8fh4fk8f 5 років тому +15

    I’ve been trying to form my own philosophy on what is art and this helped a lot. As an artist I always felt a little insulted when people told me that everything is art. It made it sound like the thing in witch I invested most of my skill and effort was cheap, and threatened my status as an artist, when applying the logic that if everything was art then everyone was an artist. This video really helped me put things into perspective and better understand myself as an artist.

    • @jyotirmayee2284
      @jyotirmayee2284 10 місяців тому

      This comment was 4 years ago. So I guess you have thought more about it and formulated strong ideas on it as well. Can you explain how you see this whole art is subjective and everyone can be artist perspective? And how do you see yourself as now?

  • @jammuuu7607
    @jammuuu7607 Рік тому

    Really well made video!!! KEEP IT UP!!!

  • @theultimatereductionist7592
    @theultimatereductionist7592 4 роки тому

    I totally agree with you about Goethe's definitions/conditions, especially applying to ALL human endeavors. ESPECIALLY POLITICAL ones.

  • @jacobv8447
    @jacobv8447 4 роки тому

    This is great. Bravo.

  • @smyd23
    @smyd23 11 місяців тому

    Thank you for this, very elucidating

  • @jhoan_roa
    @jhoan_roa 5 років тому +1

    Damien Hirst and Jhoan Roa are my favorite artists!

  • @cloudshifter
    @cloudshifter 5 років тому

    Thanks, I was really confused when I was asked to make a live action video art

  • @gameon9167
    @gameon9167 3 роки тому +1

    dude I have my oral exams about this topic. Thanks now I have stuff to talk about :)

  • @latentspacex
    @latentspacex 6 років тому

    Beautiful thesis

  • @morphchoir
    @morphchoir 2 роки тому

    Thanks for making this

  • @marilynwashburn4480
    @marilynwashburn4480 7 років тому

    excellent job!

  • @shenellesinclair434
    @shenellesinclair434 3 роки тому +2

    thanks for helping me

  • @richardjefferson2445
    @richardjefferson2445 4 роки тому

    Bold undertaking.

  • @tomasgarciafunes5582
    @tomasgarciafunes5582 3 роки тому

    Amazing video

  • @dreamphone1434
    @dreamphone1434 6 років тому

    your just talking about cool. I came here for all of it.

  • @ddnd98
    @ddnd98 3 роки тому

    We will watch your career with great interest

  • @syedqasim3360
    @syedqasim3360 6 років тому

    great video...you deserve more subs.

  • @arefghadimi1882
    @arefghadimi1882 5 років тому

    One hell of a video man.. awesome, and i'd like to actually think that art is something....i cant really explain it , it just belongs to the unknown..i just want to express that.. i'd like to think its unknown.. i dont want my art become science..

  • @mooyasu7712
    @mooyasu7712 3 роки тому

    Im having classes and this is the vid my professor sent. pogchamp

  • @kinaquintana
    @kinaquintana 11 місяців тому

    This video is art if it was made with an intention to create a piece of art, I guess... Great video, thank you!🙂

  • @RealCanadianGoose
    @RealCanadianGoose 3 роки тому +1

    Art is neat
    Thanks for coming to my TED talk

  • @mauve9266
    @mauve9266 3 роки тому +2

    What about if the checklist makes me feel something? Maybe stress or something more positive. Is it art then?

  • @LinusRauschnbrg
    @LinusRauschnbrg 16 днів тому

    Art is perfection, it’s balance, who else is?

  • @dreamphone1434
    @dreamphone1434 6 років тому +1

    I agree. art is an experience.

  • @lacrimosa5213
    @lacrimosa5213 4 роки тому +2

    the music reminds me of waizards of waverly place intro

  • @abrahamye6110
    @abrahamye6110 5 років тому

    Nice

  • @user-sg9lc8vh9e
    @user-sg9lc8vh9e 4 роки тому +1

    considering the last three questions; yes it art. keep going.

  • @brandoncheatem
    @brandoncheatem 6 років тому +1

    Great video.
    One question. Does art have to be finished? Can art exist from conception to completion? Or does it only exist in completion?

    • @MessmersMusings
      @MessmersMusings  6 років тому +1

      I think most people would agree with the sentiment that art is never truly finished, only abandoned.
      I suppose each stage of the creative process could be considered/analysed as a unique work, and we could assess how well it achieves the goals of the artist at that specific stage. Eventually, the amount of time required to incrementally move towards the artist's goal will increase exponentially, and at that point the cost of continuing outweighs the benefits of those incremental improvements and so it is abandoned or 'finished'.

  • @DATCHARTS
    @DATCHARTS 2 роки тому

    Simply this life is an art

  • @lian7092
    @lian7092 4 роки тому

    the music is nice

  • @yourmom-cv6hf
    @yourmom-cv6hf 4 роки тому

    what is the music

  • @art_by_patty
    @art_by_patty 4 роки тому +1

    Amazing video, I was wondering if you think honesty has any role in how good art is, I know that’s subjective but in my experience art that pretends to be something it’s not tends to be less appealing, like when a paintings uses gimmicky techniques in an effort to make it more appealing to the viewer

    • @MessmersMusings
      @MessmersMusings  3 роки тому +2

      I agree. Maybe that fits into the "make you feel something" category. Maybe you could consider it a lesser form of art, because - by avoiding honest expression - does a poorer job at communicating emotion/humanity.

  • @Hyan_
    @Hyan_ Рік тому +1

    I came with one question: "What is art?", left with hundreds more.

  • @XanderVJ
    @XanderVJ 6 років тому +1

    Wow! Nice video.
    Although I must say that I don't find those 3 questions to define "objectively good" art as valid. Why? Well, because the third question, "Was it worth it?", is just as subjective as "Is this piece of art good?". It doesn't really resolve the conundrum at all.
    Although maybe I should say that, in the last few years, I've grown a bit cynical with the topic of what makes art good, since the more I dig into it, the more appears to me that it's in the end just a form of social dominance struggle. A battlefield where people just try to put their personal taste over everyone else's. (This line of thought is still a work in progress, so don't pay too much mind to it. It's just an idea I struggle with).

    • @MessmersMusings
      @MessmersMusings  6 років тому

      Although art may sometimes be a manifestation of an artist/culture struggling for social dominance, I think art is much more often used as a tool for community than it is as a weapon in some sort of post-modern/marxist culture war.

  • @pierrep7786
    @pierrep7786 6 років тому

    It Is.
    What about my comment ? Is it Art ? Lol
    I love the Video

  • @naomiblatch5053
    @naomiblatch5053 4 роки тому +1

    What artist like Yoko Ono or Jhoan Roa makes is art?

  • @capuchinosofia4771
    @capuchinosofia4771 4 роки тому

    The problem is also that not everyone feels the same. For example, Polloks´paintings make me feel something. for me they are not art. Can someone make art without the intent of conveing feelings? Is that what separates a simple drawing from art?
    Great video.
    If im remembering properly, plato/aristoteles (i dont remember which!) basically defined art as craft. The definition changed since.
    Thats the thing about art, its definition changes on the type of art.
    The definition for abstract art (pollok) is not the same for realist art, nor expressionism.

  • @dgf8768
    @dgf8768 4 роки тому

    even if something doesn't achieve its purpose but instead make people think about something else that is still art

  • @iputuarthawirawan5355
    @iputuarthawirawan5355 2 роки тому

    Everythings you experience is art. If you experiences it deeply

  • @EdLrandom
    @EdLrandom 4 роки тому

    Good vid! come back!

  • @GloryBe2God
    @GloryBe2God 5 років тому +1

    Pulp Fictions is certainly a work of art;)

  • @raredeus1530
    @raredeus1530 3 роки тому +1

    Yes this video is an art bro:)

  • @adnelvstad8656
    @adnelvstad8656 10 місяців тому +1

    When the artist says it is art, - it is art...as it is impossible to prove it isn’t. Art is a way of communication where the artist uses the piece of art to express ideas, visions and feelings. The value of the piece of art is something else, based on its ability to make an impression by communication that we feel meaningful. This again is highly personal. What that is important to me can be meaningless to you.

  • @nikicdragan
    @nikicdragan 7 років тому

    Hay, what do you think about idea that artist should be empowerd by a higher (god's) power to express art? And that audience can recognise that aspect of creation in masterpiece themself?

  • @cookiemonster3147
    @cookiemonster3147 Рік тому

    This was very interesting, but the photo at 0:27 allows for a lot of imagination if you ask me.

  • @godswisdom4787
    @godswisdom4787 4 роки тому

    Is anyone's any quote's art?

  • @user-pp9qf9jg3c
    @user-pp9qf9jg3c 9 місяців тому

    “The most important thing in art is The Frame. For painting: literally; for other arts: figuratively-- because, without this humble appliance, you can't know where The Art stops and The Real World begins. You have to put a 'box' around it because otherwise, what is that shit on the wall?”

  • @jean-pierredevent970
    @jean-pierredevent970 3 роки тому

    The solution is to say that (low) art is everywhere in almost all we do as humans but high art, masterpieces are very rare. Somebody thinking the message is most important sees esthetical baffling beauty not as high art but others might.

  • @sirjsph26
    @sirjsph26 4 роки тому

    Wazzup mga Art App student ni Mam Trabaho diha!! 😂😂

  • @umondimike4045
    @umondimike4045 4 роки тому

    Yes, the video is art.

  • @kyotopmac
    @kyotopmac 3 роки тому +1

    I think this video is "art" so it is "art" to me. That is all that matters. Well done. I watched the video all the way to the end and that alone is a skill and takes talent to accomplish (especially these days). Well done.

  • @zackjot522
    @zackjot522 2 роки тому

    Anyone have an ID on the photo at 5:03

    • @MessmersMusings
      @MessmersMusings  2 роки тому

      It's a self-portrait of Vancouver photographer Fred Herzog

  • @koraamis5568
    @koraamis5568 День тому

    an accountant is called artist when working for the mafia

  • @VeryPrivateGallery
    @VeryPrivateGallery 5 років тому

    Love the monkey selfie, and hated PETA tried to remove the IPR from the deserving photographer.

  • @sailingmongoose
    @sailingmongoose 5 років тому

    yes , it made me laugh out loud ..

  • @TheImmortalArt
    @TheImmortalArt 10 місяців тому

    ART IS ART! Easy! What ever moves you, that is art.

  • @andrejtornjanski2810
    @andrejtornjanski2810 5 років тому

    Well. If you put in into your definition than sure. ofcourse there are several ways to argue how it is not. So I would say that one must not do such a thing without dicussing the necessary parameters. but in my book dude, I'd say it is.

  • @mastercharacter
    @mastercharacter 6 років тому

    Achieving a worthy goal. The laws of the OG German of literature, JWG

  • @u_kno_deweiv1744
    @u_kno_deweiv1744 5 років тому +1

    ToK Essay may 2019 Q1 anyone??

  • @sbenzdagamer
    @sbenzdagamer 2 роки тому

    art is when it gives expression

  • @kyletanyente6149
    @kyletanyente6149 2 роки тому

    2021❤

  • @dillonqaphsiel7977
    @dillonqaphsiel7977 6 років тому +1

    Art is the expression of the human condition through a sympathetic means.

  • @diegoambrosio9903
    @diegoambrosio9903 5 років тому +2

    This video "tells", it does not "show", thus it might have a tendency towards journalism instead of creativity because, according to Jim Morrison, poetry - art - does not mean anything; it simply opens the doors of perception, i.e., the viewer can see themselves.

    • @MessmersMusings
      @MessmersMusings  5 років тому

      So perhaps art is more about relaying emotions through shared experience, rather than information through presentation?

  • @glambike
    @glambike 5 років тому +1

    I can’t show this to my students because you included the macaroni junk!

    • @MessmersMusings
      @MessmersMusings  5 років тому +3

      Would you not show a photo of David?

    • @leondorrenberg7083
      @leondorrenberg7083 4 роки тому

      Serious?

    • @nvcertificatedsub5143
      @nvcertificatedsub5143 4 роки тому

      Same here. Not matter what my personal opinion would be, there's a lot of rules against it for good reasons. Otherwise, excellent video.

  • @hamonteiro
    @hamonteiro 6 років тому +2

    To me art, like philosophy, has to be used as an adjective. You have have good art and bad art, but you can also have something that is very artistic or not.

  • @talqawash487
    @talqawash487 2 роки тому

    Noooo this video is literally high school essay level😫

  • @hifijohn
    @hifijohn 6 місяців тому

    Art is anything you can get away with.

  • @thorinteague989
    @thorinteague989 Рік тому

    In over 30 years of musing, mulling, digesting, ruminating, and otherwise philosophizing on the subject, I have come to a conclusion. For the first 10-ish years I could not settle on a satisfactory definition. Around 2002-2005 I finally distilled the answer I was looking for during my time at College for Creative Studies: Anything that human beings do that does not DIRECTLY facilitate survival or reproduction, is art.
    That is an answer I continue to poke, muse, mull, digest, and ruminate upon that has so far more or less stuck for 20 years (for me--YMMV).

    • @swagnusmcduck7566
      @swagnusmcduck7566 8 місяців тому

      This makes me think of that ol’ idea; What art would you make, if you knew that NO ONE besides yourself, would ever see it?
      If you wouldn’t make art at all, then perhaps art has a survival function, in that it helps bonding with other humans, which has historically been beneficial for survival.
      If you did create something, was it perhaps a subconscious attempt at creating something to replace the companionship?
      Both options are tied to survival.