I'm a teacher of English as a second language and found this video to be a nice little introduction to a classroom debate about quality and value in art.
Can you please make more of these videos with the other art movements AND comparisons of each where needed? Even just being able to identify what art falls under the movements?
What you call contemporary art is distinguished by functioning in a far more mass media friendly environment, which encourages art which is mostly spectacle , appealing to a star system and the often very temporary values of the media..
Mondern art is introspective Contempory art is what is mainstream today which tend to be not introspective, anti-art, non-art, bad art, jovial etc. Modern art goes back thousands of years to primitism and today its classed as Outsider art examples; Graffitti writing, Art Psychosis (Mental lll), Surealism (visionary and fantastic) folk art
There is not consensus on what is contemporary art. Some historians say it's art made after the 70's and other say it's art after the 2 WW, and others say it's art made after the fall of the Berlin Wall in the late 80's. So, it's a matter of what point of view you choose.
Let me begin by telling you that when my brother was just starting school, he rebelled at the rules of spelling. Why did words have to be spelled in a particular way? Why couldn't he spell them as he wanted to spell them? He resented the rules and he resisted the authority of those who made them ! Keep this in mind. I think that Conceptual art originated with people who could not and would not do the difficult work required to become a 'traditional' artist. Can't master the necessary skills ? No knowledge of perspective? Can't draw? Don't want to have to learn color theory? Can't master composition? No knowledge of human anatomy? Can't render tonal values Can’t be bothered ? These are skills that you have to WORK to perfect. It’s difficult. It takes…..effort. You want a fast track to the exalted position of "artist “. Well then, belittle the importance of those skills and debase the notion that they are a prerequisite to creating art. Instead, create an art genre that you CAN do. A new genre. And let's call it Conceptual art. Conceptual artists claim that IDEAS and CONCEPTS are the main feature of their art. They can slap anything together and call it ''conceptual art'' confident that viewers will find SOMETHING to think about it no matter how banal or trivial the artist's concept! There is no way conceptual art pieces can be judged. The promoters of this art have attacked the motives and credibility of authorities and critics who might disparage the work. They have rejected museums and galleries as defining authorities. They reject the idea that art can be judged or criticized . All of this results in a decline in standards. And when you jettison standards, quality suffers. There really IS such a thing as BAD art ! We know this only because we have standards and criteria by which such things can be evaluated. It seems that conceptual art comes down to a basic idea: No one has the right or authority to make any judgements about art ! Art is anything you can get away with ! A whole new language has been created to give the work an air of legitimacy and gravitas. Conceptual art is 'sold' to the unwary public with ....."ArtSpeak". ArtSpeak is a unique assemblage of English words and phrases that the International Art world uses but which are devoid of meaning! Have you ever found yourself confronted by an art gallery’s description of an exhibition which seems completely indecipherable? Or an artist’s statement about their work which left you more confused than enlightened? You’re not alone. Here are examples of ArtSpeak: 'Works that probe the dialectic between innovations that seem to have been forgotten, the ruinous present state of projects once created amid great euphoria, and the present as an era of transitions and new beginnings.'' Or ''The exhibition reactivates his career-long investigation into the social mutations of desire and repression. But his earlier concerns with repression production--in the adolescent or in the family as a whole--give way to the vertiginous retrieval and wayward reinvention of mythical community and sub-cultural traditions.'' This language is meant to convince me that there is real substance to this drivel which is being passed off as art. I don't buy it. But plenty of other people DO buy it. Not because they love the work. They are laying out enormous sums in the belief that their investment will bring them high returns in the future. One Jeff Koons conceptual piece is three basketballs suspended in a fish tank. commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Three_Ball_Total_Equilibrium_Tank_by_Jeff_Koons,_Tate_Liverpool.jpg Here is Koons' own ArtSpeak explanation of his floating basketball 'concept' verbatim: “ This is an ultimate state of being. I wanted to play with people’s desires. They desire this equilibrium. They desire pre-birth. I was giving a definition of life and death. This is the eternal. This is what life is like, also, after death. Aspects of the eternal” Rather lofty goals for 3 basketballs suspended in a fish tank!! It sold for $350,000. I wonder what it would have fetched without Koons' name attached to it. Or take the case of Martin Creed's ball of crumpled white copy paper. www.abebooks.com/signed/Work-sheet-paper-crumpled-ball-Creed/7404135374/bd He made almost 700 of them! Some sold for hundreds of dollars. Martin Creed, when asked during an interview how he would respond to those who say the crumpled paper ball isn’t art said : “ I wouldn’t call this art either. Who says, anyway, what’s good and what’s bad?” Interviewer: ''When confronted with conceptual art, we shouldn’t worry whether it’s art or not because no one really knows what art is.'' Is this what art has come to?? _________________________________ Something radical has happened to the art scene in the past 50 years. Cubism slid into non-representational art....what is often called Abstract. Abstract or non-representational art is a legitimate and often profound genre. But to many people, it appeared as if this new style had no structure, principles or standards of evaluation. It’s markings seemed random and arbitrary. Something that anyone could do. Any composition of blotches or scribbles was “Abstract Art”. This was the slippery slope that led to the abandonment of standards in art. Art is what I say it is....and lots of people jumped on the art bandwagon. Anyone can be an artist. Anyone can mount a show. And who is to say if it has value or not ? A tacit agreement has formed among critics, galleries, publications and auction houses to promote and celebrate certain artists and styles. Objects with no artistic merit are touted and praised . Their value increases with every magazine article, every exhibition in a prestigious gallery. And when they come up for auction, sometimes the auction houses will lend vast sums to a bidder so that it appears as if the work of the particular artist is increasing in value. The upward spiral begins and fortunes are made. And many are reluctant to declare that the Emperor is, in fact, naked lest they appear boorish unsophisticated Philistines ! This is what dominates the art market today. The love of money is the root of all evil. It has corrupted politics. It has corrupted sport. It has corrupted healthcare. It has corrupted religion. And now it has corrupted art. But, there is reason to hope. As much of the wisdom of the Greeks and Romans was kept alive through the Middle Ages in small pockets of learning and culture, ateliers have sprung up around the world that are devoted to preserving and handing down the traditional visual arts: drawing, painting and sculpting to each new generation. And when this craze for conceptual art has burned itself out and when visual art is no longer looked on as mere decoration and when schools that have dissolved their art programs want to reestablish them again, the world will find these skills preserved through the atelier movement.
not necessarily comics have been around for a good while and are usually just inked in color. maybe if one person were to tape a comic strip onto a soccer ball for example and add some sort of “meaning” to it, then maybe i think
Hence, in modern art you have the industrial revolution, slavery, wars, colonisation, etc. Contemporary art, post colonialism, globalisation, social media, gender, identity etc
'Contemporary art' is just postmodernism retitled, with more obvious Frankfurt School agendas. It's postmodernism functioning without even the pretext of attempting to create any kind of art.
art is a skill, and realism and hyperrealism requie a lot of it, but it doensn't hold as much value when you have cameras. even with modern and contemporary you have to know the basics which include everything you know thats within realism.
I'm a teacher of English as a second language and found this video to be a nice little introduction to a classroom debate about quality and value in art.
This video enlighten me about the differences between modern and contemporary art
Finally someone is pointing this out. Amazing how many so called artists have no clue about this.
Thanks for posting this explanation. The Matisse exhibits were great. Got to see them this past weekend.
Can you please make more of these videos with the other art movements AND comparisons of each where needed? Even just being able to identify what art falls under the movements?
What you call contemporary art is distinguished by functioning in a far more mass media friendly environment, which encourages art which is mostly spectacle , appealing to a star system and the often very temporary values of the media..
Subrang laki ng natutulong ng arts Nagbibigay sya ng magandang kulay itsura at napapaganda ang isang bagay
thank you for simple explanation
According to the major auction houses Contemporary Art is any art Post 1945.
Those illustrations are really so cute!!! :)
Thx for sharing 👍
This channel makes me happy
🖤🎨🖤 thank you!!
excellent sketching
Short and sweet
Mondern art is introspective Contempory art is what is mainstream today which tend to be not introspective, anti-art, non-art, bad art, jovial etc. Modern art goes back thousands of years to primitism and today its classed as Outsider art examples; Graffitti writing, Art Psychosis (Mental lll), Surealism (visionary and fantastic) folk art
There is not consensus on what is contemporary art. Some historians say it's art made after the 70's and other say it's art after the 2 WW, and others say it's art made after the fall of the Berlin Wall in the late 80's. So, it's a matter of what point of view you choose.
Let me begin by telling you that when my brother was just starting school, he rebelled at the rules of spelling.
Why did words have to be spelled in a particular way?
Why couldn't he spell them as he wanted to spell them?
He resented the rules and he resisted the authority of those who made them !
Keep this in mind.
I think that Conceptual art originated with people who could not and would not do the difficult work required to become a 'traditional' artist.
Can't master the necessary skills ?
No knowledge of perspective?
Can't draw?
Don't want to have to learn color theory?
Can't master composition?
No knowledge of human anatomy?
Can't render tonal values
Can’t be bothered ?
These are skills that you have to WORK to perfect.
It’s difficult.
It takes…..effort.
You want a fast track to the exalted position of "artist “.
Well then, belittle the importance of those skills and debase the notion that they are a prerequisite to creating art.
Instead, create an art genre that you CAN do.
A new genre.
And let's call it Conceptual art.
Conceptual artists claim that IDEAS and CONCEPTS are the main feature of their art.
They can slap anything together and call it ''conceptual art'' confident that viewers will find SOMETHING to think about it no matter how banal or trivial the artist's concept!
There is no way conceptual art pieces can be judged.
The promoters of this art have attacked the motives and credibility of authorities and critics who might disparage the work.
They have rejected museums and galleries as defining authorities.
They reject the idea that art can be judged or criticized .
All of this results in a decline in standards.
And when you jettison standards, quality suffers.
There really IS such a thing as BAD art !
We know this only because we have standards and criteria by which such things can be evaluated.
It seems that conceptual art comes down to a basic idea:
No one has the right or authority to make any judgements about art !
Art is anything you can get away with !
A whole new language has been created to give the work an air of legitimacy and gravitas.
Conceptual art is 'sold' to the unwary public with ....."ArtSpeak".
ArtSpeak is a unique assemblage of English words and phrases that the International Art world uses but which are devoid of meaning!
Have you ever found yourself confronted by an art gallery’s description of an exhibition which seems completely indecipherable?
Or an artist’s statement about their work which left you more confused than enlightened?
You’re not alone.
Here are examples of ArtSpeak:
'Works that probe the dialectic between innovations that seem to have been forgotten, the ruinous present state of projects once created amid great euphoria, and the present as an era of transitions and new beginnings.''
Or
''The exhibition reactivates his career-long investigation into the social mutations of desire and repression. But his earlier concerns with repression production--in the adolescent or in the family as a whole--give way to the vertiginous retrieval and wayward reinvention of mythical community and sub-cultural traditions.''
This language is meant to convince me that there is real substance to this drivel which is being passed off as art.
I don't buy it.
But plenty of other people DO buy it.
Not because they love the work.
They are laying out enormous sums in the belief that their investment will bring them high returns in the future.
One Jeff Koons conceptual piece is three basketballs suspended in a fish tank.
commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Three_Ball_Total_Equilibrium_Tank_by_Jeff_Koons,_Tate_Liverpool.jpg
Here is Koons' own ArtSpeak explanation of his floating basketball 'concept' verbatim:
“ This is an ultimate state of being.
I wanted to play with people’s desires.
They desire this equilibrium.
They desire pre-birth.
I was giving a definition of life and death.
This is the eternal.
This is what life is like, also, after death.
Aspects of the eternal”
Rather lofty goals for 3 basketballs suspended in a fish tank!!
It sold for $350,000.
I wonder what it would have fetched without Koons' name attached to it.
Or take the case of Martin Creed's ball of crumpled white copy paper.
www.abebooks.com/signed/Work-sheet-paper-crumpled-ball-Creed/7404135374/bd
He made almost 700 of them!
Some sold for hundreds of dollars.
Martin Creed, when asked during an interview how he would respond to those who say the crumpled paper ball isn’t art said :
“ I wouldn’t call this art either. Who says, anyway, what’s good and what’s bad?”
Interviewer:
''When confronted with conceptual art, we shouldn’t worry whether it’s art or not because no one really knows what art is.''
Is this what art has come to??
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Something radical has happened to the art scene in the past 50 years.
Cubism slid into non-representational art....what is often called Abstract.
Abstract or non-representational art is a legitimate and often profound genre.
But to many people, it appeared as if this new style had no structure, principles or standards of evaluation.
It’s markings seemed random and arbitrary.
Something that anyone could do.
Any composition of blotches or scribbles was “Abstract Art”.
This was the slippery slope that led to the abandonment of standards in art.
Art is what I say it is....and lots of people jumped on the art bandwagon.
Anyone can be an artist.
Anyone can mount a show.
And who is to say if it has value or not ?
A tacit agreement has formed among critics, galleries, publications and auction houses to promote and celebrate certain artists and styles.
Objects with no artistic merit are touted and praised .
Their value increases with every magazine article, every exhibition in a prestigious gallery.
And when they come up for auction, sometimes the auction houses will lend vast sums to a bidder so that it appears as if the work of the particular artist is increasing in value.
The upward spiral begins and fortunes are made.
And many are reluctant to declare that the Emperor is, in fact, naked lest they appear boorish unsophisticated Philistines !
This is what dominates the art market today.
The love of money is the root of all evil.
It has corrupted politics.
It has corrupted sport.
It has corrupted healthcare.
It has corrupted religion.
And now it has corrupted art.
But, there is reason to hope.
As much of the wisdom of the Greeks and Romans was kept alive through the Middle Ages in small pockets of learning and culture, ateliers have sprung up around the world that are devoted to preserving and handing down the traditional visual arts: drawing, painting and sculpting to each new generation.
And when this craze for conceptual art has burned itself out and when visual art is no longer looked on as mere decoration and when schools that have dissolved their art programs want to reestablish them again, the world will find these skills preserved through the atelier movement.
Now I get it. TNx !
Nice!
every body talking bout „this is what modern art should be“ and stuff but i wanna know the meaning of this??
What happened to Postmodern Art Period?
It ushered us into contemporary. It developed into what we call contemporary art
Genial !!
hah, sec 34 is a lithographic stone. love it
then what is the difference between contemporary and post modernism.. I'm confused
Post modernism developed fully into contemporary art
Contemporary art owes it to post modernism
Post Modernism started late 70s . According to auction houses contemporary is art post ww2 .
I got confused, damn. So comic strip is contemporary art?
not necessarily comics have been around for a good while and are usually just inked in color. maybe if one person were to tape a comic strip onto a soccer ball for example and add some sort of “meaning” to it, then maybe i think
fun
What is the similarities of contemporary and modern art?
Divine Nacua i think both try to focus on conceptualism.
Experimentation of materials and expression.
Yeah, absolutely. Experimentation, avant garde, individualism and freedom
I'm still a lil lost
Don't be, it's just epochal. The things happening in both eras dictate the art forms
Hence, in modern art you have the industrial revolution, slavery, wars, colonisation, etc.
Contemporary art, post colonialism, globalisation, social media, gender, identity etc
Thank you for this video, you speak too fast, I would rather a slower pace, maybe it is because I'm quite far from the art world. Thanks anyway.
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'Contemporary art' is just postmodernism retitled, with more obvious Frankfurt School agendas. It's postmodernism functioning without even the pretext of attempting to create any kind of art.
Iain Robb I totally agree with you! 😊
Iain Robb haha cynical but true
Cultural Marxism in the Arts
Ni un brillo
My 1 year old kid can do modern art.
Both modern "art" and contemporary "art" are trash. You can never change my mind. Those are only done by people with no real talent.
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art is a skill, and realism and hyperrealism requie a lot of it, but it doensn't hold as much value when you have cameras. even with modern and contemporary you have to know the basics which include everything you know thats within realism.
To summarize: Modern Art is good art vs Contemporary Art is shit
Contemporary Art is just Modern Art on meth.