Thank you Alan, it all came together beautifully on the day, which is a rare thing! We had a good laugh fitting this M52, and without much bickering. 😆 Hopefully many more productive days to come on the build!
Watching your videos with the help of your father is something you will never forget I did the same with my son and we are still doing in his E 30 keep it up you are doing a great job👍 23:35
Thanks Louis, we had a great day getting this M52 in, didn't bicker too much for a change. 😂 We're lucky to share such an interest in mechanical things. I guess he instilled that in me from a young age, taught me everything I know. 😃
Wow. The engine is in !! Some thing troubled me on the condor mounts, think its the wrong side installed cos the engine arms should sit fully on top, not offset Currently can see the engine tilted more to right. The oil cap should be flat horizontally. I could be wrong, so best to check it again. The removal front panel is best so far for any front repairs.. 😊
Thank you Felix! And thanks for pointing that out, I thought exactly the same at first, really strange that the engine arm looks like it's not centred on the engine mount when it should be. 🤔 I triple-checked it against Condor's information and it has to be right, the mounts are on the correct sides and there's only one way to bolt them down. I might get in touch with them just to get full confirmation on that. And yes, the front core support was a godsend to say the least. Hopefully, I won't need to remove it too often in the future. 😆
Sometimes a dream, other times a nightmare! 🤣 In all honesty, I've dreamt of owning the car this E30 is going to be for years. I really hope it lives up to my expectations after all the work is done! 😃
Looks class, you didn't go ott with the prep and painting on the engine and box but it looks stunning once fitted. The custom front panel cut worked like a dream too, give yourself a pat on the back for a lovely job.
Thanks Jim! Like with anything, you can go as far as you like. I think I did the right amount to get the optimal result for me. I'm really happy with how it looks. Agreed - the removable front end was a godsend. I was definitely thanking past me for going to the effort of that. 😆
Nice call on short oil pan. Wishing I'd done that to mine now. I spaced under the engine mounts with angle shims to buy some header room. Looking clean. Cheers 🇨🇦 👍
Thanks Steve! The custom sump looks like it's only marginally lower than the subframe which I'm pleased about really. I'm not planning to absolutely slam the car, so speed humps shouldn't be a big issue for me with this. The sump plug position is looking a bit questionable currently, but I'll hopefully address whether that's an issue in the near future. The engine shims sound interesting, were they for use with E28 engine mounts to correct the angle on them?
@@SPANNERRASH The custom sump is definitely the way to go mine is lower than the subframe. I have Ireland engineering sport/race Springs up-front so I can't run too low. As for speed bumps I try to stagger approach the two tires, also find turning tires lift the car tad. The sump plug position looks okay it's on the low side and doing an oil change we usually lift the front. I found the E28 engine mounts not to work with the transmission mount looking part on them. Think I ended up using either M20 or M50 to be able to space them up with a angled shim, like the condor engine mounts provide. You also have another layer on top of your subframe for a bit of height. So you should be golden. The exhaust collector subframe clearance will be something you'll find out soon.
@@Flordeh Dang sounds like a constant worry with that sump then, I'm glad I'm avoiding that. Knowing my luck I'd be absent minded and crack it on the first hump I saw. 😂 I might be fretting about oil starvation instead though. But from reading its unlikely, and I plan to monitor oil pressure somehow for peace of mind on that front. I'm impressed with the angled shim idea. I hadn't thought of that at all but I can totally see how it could be a good solution to the uneven pressure the bushings would take otherwise. Exhaust is something I'll be tackling very soon so stay tuned for that. 😁
@@SPANNERRASH 😉 It hasn't made contact yet but a 1/8 inch aluminum skid plate and rubber mat stips between to cover the oil pan should help. Thinking back the right side motor mount was shimed for M52 stock header and collector pipe to work. For mid pipe and muffler I found a stock S52 M3 setup for close pipe size and sound. I've always liked that quality clean factory look of the stock M3 stainless tips. Eisenmann sport would be a muffler I'd put on next👌
@@Tom-dz7of Indeed, I wish I had more time to throw at it, but just chipping away every weekend! Hopefully yours goes in just as smoothly though, couldn't have asked for an easier engine install really.
Yeahhhh the muscle is in. The removable core support made it so easy! I'm getting excited and it's not even my own build 😂😂 interested in the wiring how you're going to do it. Cant wait to hear the 6 cylinder music
Awwwhh yeahh! 😆 I also can't wait to hear it now, working towards that ASAP. The removable front core support really came in clutch, was such a breeze thanks to that. I'll do wiring next I reckon, can't say I'm looking forward to it, but I'll be sure to make a vid. 😃
Awesome glad you're enjoying the series. Quite a bit more to do on this project yet so get caught up. 😃 I think a lot of this will be familiar to you if you've done an M50 swap on yours.
Thank you mate! 😃 I've got everything crossed that the engine will run sweet. I don't see why it won't currently. I'm so pleased with how it's looking, all the graft to get it to this point is starting to feel worth it. Let's hope this positivity continues when I'm sorting the wiring next. 😉
Thanks Reece, really pleased with how easily it went in. That core support mod has proved its worth! 😃 Let's hope I don't have to have it off too often, at least won't be too bad if the engine needs to come back out!
This video is just the video I’ve been looking for it’s brillant just a quick question is that instalment the exact same as how you’d install m53b28 into a E36?
Awesome, I hope the video proves helpful for you. It's very similar to installing an M52B28 into an E36 chassis. The front core support is removable on an E36 very easily. I think there are two spot welds to cut and a couple of bolts to remove. Then it would be almost identical.
you should get gearbox bushings / mounts with the same hardness as the engiene mounts. with stiff engine mounts and soft trans mounts you wil strain the gearbox bolts in the engiene as the gearbox would want to twist alot and the engine wont twist with it during hard acceleration/decel :) or the engine mounts will take up all the strain and wear prematurley
Thats a very interesting concept, it makes good sense. To be honest I'd made a conscious decision not to change the gearbox mounts to Poly because I don't really want transmission noises passing into the cab. If I could have selected softer Condor mounts I would have too. 😄 Now you've said that I will make a note to revisit the gearbox mounts in the future. Cheers!
@@SPANNERRASH poly mounts won’t make the sound much more harsh. I’d consider noice dampening mats if you want a more pleasant driving experience.Especially in the doors and rear wheelwells ;) e30 has the absolute worst noice dampening of all the cars I’ve had 😅
@@alexbakke8885 I think the noisy diff on my E46 has stuck with me, it was soo much worse after I put polybushings on. I was hoping that would solve it. 🤣 I've done a very modest job under the carpets with some sound deadening. It's that classic mental struggle between wanting the car to be comfortable to drive distances, but also wanting to avoid adding weight to keep the driving experience pure.
There is no need I have one e30 with all poly and one with oem Tran ones and poly engine and I clutch kit all day every day and no problems is better to have oem on trans for the vibrations my e46 vibrate a lot with trans one but e30 m50 don’t that much, m54 are shaky I guess
im doing this exact same swap rhd too, being in australia and your videos are gospel to me only difference is ive sourced a s6s420g from a crashed e46 m3 but this video is screaming at me to remove the core support, cant wait to see more
I have a 420g too, i have not tried to fit it yet but i have a custom mount, the M3 shifter and the auto propshaft for it so hopefully it goes msoothly!
Really glad to hear the vids are useful for you! 😁 Nice, I guess that would be a similar box to the ZF, but a 6-speed instead of 5. Would you plan to use an E46 M3 diff too? I'd say the removable core support is a must for a swapped E30. Makes life so much easier!
Hi, Great Video! I am currently working on my E34 with an M52b28. I used one the adapter you can buy for the X20, but sadly my car doesn‘t start. Everything works exept for the injectors. I think i have to wire it just like you did and try my best. Keep making such Great vids and have a Nice day. PS: Sorry for my english, i‘m from the motherland if we talk about BMW 😂
Great work , I remember back in the day my e30 323i was a lively beast , back end all over the show , I spun the car once at about 60mph ,complete 360 and managed not to hit anything , with more power and weight at the front what are you going to do to calm the rear end ? Ps my trailing arm bushings were ok lol
Haha, that always wakes you up doesn't it! Glad to say that doesn't happen to me too often. 😂 In all fairness I am a little worried I will be lulled into a false sense of security by this car, and I might have a rude reminder about the lack of ABS or traction control at some point. I guess I will just have to keep myself in check! I might put some higher quality Michelin tyres on down the line which could keep the car more planted, but other than that hopefully just have lots of fun with no consequences. 😆
Could you tell me how tall the condor mounts are, I have seen some 85mm mount to help lift the engine up a bit but would like a reference point of yours please
Hi, its a normal E30 starter, the one I used was from an M20 equipped car, but it turned out to be identical to the M40 one which came originally on my 1990 316i. Hope that helps!
I'm not 100% certain so make sure you cross reference this with RealOEM part number, but for that engine I think this is the one you need: ebay.us/Dhwv9v Hope that helps!
Check out 4:13 in the vid where I talk about engine arms. In short, they are from an E36. In fact, these are the exact engine arms this M52 engine left the factory with. 😄
Getting closer and closer! The removable core support seemed to be a well worth the effort mod. Next up the exhaust, intake manifold, wiring and propshaft to go in? Those condor mounts look great. Did you have to pay any import customs charges once you got them?
That's the plan! Wiring first I reckon. Can't wait to get to a first start. You're 100% right about the front core support, I was thanking myself for doing it. 😂 You know, I don't believe there were any extra charges on it for once. In my experience it's luck of the draw with imports though - sometimes I do, and sometimes I don't.
Hmm not sure I have any pics actually, but I have tried the intake on and it looks good. Planning to go M50 manifold as it seems obligatory. All will be shared on that front in the near future! Is there something in particular you want to look at regarding the manifold? I might be able to help you out with a photo in the meantime if so. 😁
@@crossiecars Not close with the M52 intake, but gonna be close with the M50 one! Nothing a bit of fin trimming can't solve though. 😅 Shoot us a DM on IG if you're after a pic and I should be able to grab one for you this week mate.
If someone can help me please, I live in Romania, my car is a 1989 e30 320i sedan m20b20, the problem is that my differential is whining and making grinding noise, even after changing the bearings with new ones, its a small case 3.91 open, i cant find any solution to this problem im new to this, please what can i do or what diff should i replace with?
Hi that sounds like an unpleasant problem, have you got the correct oil in the diff? Its quite possible its just worn out, maybe run with low oil for a long time, and the crown wheel and pinion are now not meshing well. To be honest I'm no expert on this. Maybe someone else can chime in who is more knowledgeable. If it were me, I'd consider swapping it out. As its an open diff it wouldn't be too expensive to change for a known good one of the same type.
Nice Work from you and your Dad
you can see a lot of thought has gone into what you wanted to achieve well done to you both
Thank you Alan, it all came together beautifully on the day, which is a rare thing! We had a good laugh fitting this M52, and without much bickering. 😆 Hopefully many more productive days to come on the build!
Watching your videos with the help of your father is something you will never forget I did the same with my son and we are still doing in his E 30 keep it up you are doing a great job👍 23:35
Thanks Louis, we had a great day getting this M52 in, didn't bicker too much for a change. 😂 We're lucky to share such an interest in mechanical things. I guess he instilled that in me from a young age, taught me everything I know. 😃
So cool. Best part is hanging with dad. 😀 - DUDE!! So happy for you.
Yeah 100% right, we had a blast. 😆Thanks man!
Congrats mate can't edit for first start up and then first drive very good job neat work looks good in the bay
Thanks Jimmy, you and me both mate! Hopefully I can get the wiring done and we'll be on our way to cranking this engine over for a first start! 🙏
Wow. The engine is in !!
Some thing troubled me on the condor mounts, think its the wrong side installed cos the engine arms should sit fully on top, not offset Currently can see the engine tilted more to right. The oil cap should be flat horizontally.
I could be wrong, so best to check it again.
The removal front panel is best so far for any front repairs.. 😊
Thank you Felix! And thanks for pointing that out, I thought exactly the same at first, really strange that the engine arm looks like it's not centred on the engine mount when it should be. 🤔
I triple-checked it against Condor's information and it has to be right, the mounts are on the correct sides and there's only one way to bolt them down. I might get in touch with them just to get full confirmation on that.
And yes, the front core support was a godsend to say the least. Hopefully, I won't need to remove it too often in the future. 😆
You are doing absolutely fantastic job!
Thanks Anttu! 😃
I look forward to your videos, thank you👍🏻 got my own 1984 E30 restoration build going on myself
Cheers Tylor, glad you enjoy them pal! 😃 I hope the '84 project is going well. Always loved the pre-facelift look actually.
you are literally living my dream, hope one day I can replicate what you are doing
Sometimes a dream, other times a nightmare! 🤣 In all honesty, I've dreamt of owning the car this E30 is going to be for years. I really hope it lives up to my expectations after all the work is done! 😃
Having such a masterpice of a car in your garage and building up your project with your dad is surely a dream.@@SPANNERRASH
Looks class, you didn't go ott with the prep and painting on the engine and box but it looks stunning once fitted.
The custom front panel cut worked like a dream too, give yourself a pat on the back for a lovely job.
Thanks Jim! Like with anything, you can go as far as you like. I think I did the right amount to get the optimal result for me. I'm really happy with how it looks.
Agreed - the removable front end was a godsend. I was definitely thanking past me for going to the effort of that. 😆
Nice call on short oil pan. Wishing I'd done that to mine now. I spaced under the engine mounts with angle shims to buy some header room. Looking clean. Cheers 🇨🇦 👍
Thanks Steve! The custom sump looks like it's only marginally lower than the subframe which I'm pleased about really. I'm not planning to absolutely slam the car, so speed humps shouldn't be a big issue for me with this.
The sump plug position is looking a bit questionable currently, but I'll hopefully address whether that's an issue in the near future.
The engine shims sound interesting, were they for use with E28 engine mounts to correct the angle on them?
@@SPANNERRASH The custom sump is definitely the way to go mine is lower than the subframe. I have Ireland engineering sport/race Springs up-front so I can't run too low. As for speed bumps I try to stagger approach the two tires, also find turning tires lift the car tad.
The sump plug position looks okay it's on the low side and doing an oil change we usually lift the front.
I found the E28 engine mounts not to work with the transmission mount looking part on them. Think I ended up using either M20 or M50 to be able to space them up with a angled shim, like the condor engine mounts provide. You also have another layer on top of your subframe for a bit of height. So you should be golden. The exhaust collector subframe clearance will be something you'll find out soon.
@@Flordeh Dang sounds like a constant worry with that sump then, I'm glad I'm avoiding that. Knowing my luck I'd be absent minded and crack it on the first hump I saw. 😂
I might be fretting about oil starvation instead though. But from reading its unlikely, and I plan to monitor oil pressure somehow for peace of mind on that front.
I'm impressed with the angled shim idea. I hadn't thought of that at all but I can totally see how it could be a good solution to the uneven pressure the bushings would take otherwise.
Exhaust is something I'll be tackling very soon so stay tuned for that. 😁
@@SPANNERRASH 😉 It hasn't made contact yet but a 1/8 inch aluminum skid plate and rubber mat stips between to cover the oil pan should help.
Thinking back the right side motor mount was shimed for M52 stock header and collector pipe to work.
For mid pipe and muffler I found a stock S52 M3 setup for close pipe size and sound. I've always liked that quality clean factory look of the stock M3 stainless tips. Eisenmann sport would be a muffler I'd put on next👌
Looking awesome 👍
Cheers Martin 👍
What a piece of art
Thank you! Really happy with how its all looking currently. 😀
Fantastic! I have been waiting for this episode , looking out for the next one. Love the 'Oldman' he knows what he is doing , grts from Holland!
Haha he taught me everything I know. I really enjoyed fitting this engine with him, was a breeze really, we didn't even argue too much. 😂
Nice work, looking good 👍🏻
Cheers, such a relief to finally have the lump in!
@@SPANNERRASH not surprised been a while😂, Iv got it all to go on mine🤦🏼♂️, keep up the good work
@@Tom-dz7of Indeed, I wish I had more time to throw at it, but just chipping away every weekend!
Hopefully yours goes in just as smoothly though, couldn't have asked for an easier engine install really.
Amazing seeing that in there🎉
Thank you! 🥳
Yeahhhh the muscle is in. The removable core support made it so easy! I'm getting excited and it's not even my own build 😂😂 interested in the wiring how you're going to do it. Cant wait to hear the 6 cylinder music
Awwwhh yeahh! 😆 I also can't wait to hear it now, working towards that ASAP. The removable front core support really came in clutch, was such a breeze thanks to that. I'll do wiring next I reckon, can't say I'm looking forward to it, but I'll be sure to make a vid. 😃
Just found your page mate love it doing a proper job! I’ve got an m50 swapped e30 myself so this is a good watch 🔥🔥
Awesome glad you're enjoying the series. Quite a bit more to do on this project yet so get caught up. 😃
I think a lot of this will be familiar to you if you've done an M50 swap on yours.
Congrats!
Thanks Marios! 😄
Can’t wait to see this thing running!!!! 🎉 hope to get my e30 in a condition as good as yours
Thank you mate! 😃 I've got everything crossed that the engine will run sweet. I don't see why it won't currently.
I'm so pleased with how it's looking, all the graft to get it to this point is starting to feel worth it.
Let's hope this positivity continues when I'm sorting the wiring next. 😉
Good job!
Cheers Barry!
Tidy work as always mate, that removable core support makes it a breeze👍🏽
Thanks Reece, really pleased with how easily it went in. That core support mod has proved its worth! 😃
Let's hope I don't have to have it off too often, at least won't be too bad if the engine needs to come back out!
This video is just the video I’ve been looking for it’s brillant just a quick question is that instalment the exact same as how you’d install m53b28 into a E36?
Awesome, I hope the video proves helpful for you. It's very similar to installing an M52B28 into an E36 chassis. The front core support is removable on an E36 very easily. I think there are two spot welds to cut and a couple of bolts to remove. Then it would be almost identical.
you should get gearbox bushings / mounts with the same hardness as the engiene mounts. with stiff engine mounts and soft trans mounts you wil strain the gearbox bolts in the engiene as the gearbox would want to twist alot and the engine wont twist with it during hard acceleration/decel :) or the engine mounts will take up all the strain and wear prematurley
Thats a very interesting concept, it makes good sense.
To be honest I'd made a conscious decision not to change the gearbox mounts to Poly because I don't really want transmission noises passing into the cab.
If I could have selected softer Condor mounts I would have too. 😄
Now you've said that I will make a note to revisit the gearbox mounts in the future. Cheers!
@@SPANNERRASH poly mounts won’t make the sound much more harsh. I’d consider noice dampening mats if you want a more pleasant driving experience.Especially in the doors and rear wheelwells ;) e30 has the absolute worst noice dampening of all the cars I’ve had 😅
@@alexbakke8885 I think the noisy diff on my E46 has stuck with me, it was soo much worse after I put polybushings on. I was hoping that would solve it. 🤣
I've done a very modest job under the carpets with some sound deadening.
It's that classic mental struggle between wanting the car to be comfortable to drive distances, but also wanting to avoid adding weight to keep the driving experience pure.
There is no need I have one e30 with all poly and one with oem Tran ones and poly engine and I clutch kit all day every day and no problems is better to have oem on trans for the vibrations my e46 vibrate a lot with trans one but e30 m50 don’t that much, m54 are shaky I guess
Interesting @@kevin189w7, thanks for the insight. Are you drifting your cars?
im doing this exact same swap rhd too, being in australia and your videos are gospel to me only difference is ive sourced a s6s420g from a crashed e46 m3 but this video is screaming at me to remove the core support, cant wait to see more
I have a 420g too, i have not tried to fit it yet but i have a custom mount, the M3 shifter and the auto propshaft for it so hopefully it goes msoothly!
@@xelad6159 hopefully it goes well, I am still collecting parts
Really glad to hear the vids are useful for you! 😁
Nice, I guess that would be a similar box to the ZF, but a 6-speed instead of 5.
Would you plan to use an E46 M3 diff too?
I'd say the removable core support is a must for a swapped E30. Makes life so much easier!
@SPANNERRASH I wish, just a medium case I believe it should hold up
Nice!
Cheers Andreas 😁
Hi, Great Video!
I am currently working on my E34 with an M52b28. I used one the adapter you can buy for the X20, but sadly my car doesn‘t start. Everything works exept for the injectors. I think i have to wire it just like you did and try my best.
Keep making such Great vids and have a Nice day.
PS: Sorry for my english, i‘m from the motherland if we talk about BMW 😂
Hi Luca, that's an interesting issue. I would think it was ECU related. Have you got an ECU with the EWS immobiliser coded out of it?
Great work , I remember back in the day my e30 323i was a lively beast , back end all over the show , I spun the car once at about 60mph ,complete 360 and managed not to hit anything , with more power and weight at the front what are you going to do to calm the rear end ? Ps my trailing arm bushings were ok lol
Haha, that always wakes you up doesn't it! Glad to say that doesn't happen to me too often. 😂
In all fairness I am a little worried I will be lulled into a false sense of security by this car, and I might have a rude reminder about the lack of ABS or traction control at some point.
I guess I will just have to keep myself in check!
I might put some higher quality Michelin tyres on down the line which could keep the car more planted, but other than that hopefully just have lots of fun with no consequences. 😆
Well said
Could you tell me how tall the condor mounts are, I have seen some 85mm mount to help lift the engine up a bit but would like a reference point of yours please
The Condor mounts seem to be around 65mm tall, I had chance to look today. Hope that helps.
hello I hope you are well, it's just a small question starter that your etulise is the small model or the large model thanks in advance
Hi, its a normal E30 starter, the one I used was from an M20 equipped car, but it turned out to be identical to the M40 one which came originally on my 1990 316i. Hope that helps!
For the m50 swap which throttle cable did you use?
This exact one: ebay.us/UJ1xq8
Check out my M50 manifold vid to see it installed.
Hope that helps 😃
Hi, I can't seem to find the right knock sensors for my M50b25 single vanos? seeking your help pls.
I'm not 100% certain so make sure you cross reference this with RealOEM part number, but for that engine I think this is the one you need: ebay.us/Dhwv9v
Hope that helps!
what engine arms are you using? im swapping a m52tub28 into my 325i and havent figured out wich arms i shoul look for, all tips im thankful for :)
Check out 4:13 in the vid where I talk about engine arms.
In short, they are from an E36. In fact, these are the exact engine arms this M52 engine left the factory with. 😄
Thanks the clarity because where I'm from people say I should us m20 on the right side and e36 arm on the left side
@@bmwe30club64 Interesting, I have never heard of people doing that, but maybe its possible.
Getting closer and closer! The removable core support seemed to be a well worth the effort mod.
Next up the exhaust, intake manifold, wiring and propshaft to go in?
Those condor mounts look great. Did you have to pay any import customs charges once you got them?
That's the plan! Wiring first I reckon. Can't wait to get to a first start. You're 100% right about the front core support, I was thanking myself for doing it. 😂 You know, I don't believe there were any extra charges on it for once. In my experience it's luck of the draw with imports though - sometimes I do, and sometimes I don't.
Any photos of it with the inlet on?
Hmm not sure I have any pics actually, but I have tried the intake on and it looks good. Planning to go M50 manifold as it seems obligatory.
All will be shared on that front in the near future!
Is there something in particular you want to look at regarding the manifold? I might be able to help you out with a photo in the meantime if so. 😁
@@SPANNERRASH just seeing how close to servo or not it is!
@@crossiecars Not close with the M52 intake, but gonna be close with the M50 one! Nothing a bit of fin trimming can't solve though. 😅
Shoot us a DM on IG if you're after a pic and I should be able to grab one for you this week mate.
Brilliant mate, all coming together.
Cheers @@shanechiddy4303 😃
Are you using the e30 5 speed or the e36?
E30 Getrag g240 box from a 318is. Check out my other video for gearbox options for this build. 😄
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nice! :)
Thanks! 😄
If someone can help me please, I live in Romania, my car is a 1989 e30 320i sedan m20b20, the problem is that my differential is whining and making grinding noise, even after changing the bearings with new ones, its a small case 3.91 open, i cant find any solution to this problem im new to this, please what can i do or what diff should i replace with?
Hi that sounds like an unpleasant problem, have you got the correct oil in the diff?
Its quite possible its just worn out, maybe run with low oil for a long time, and the crown wheel and pinion are now not meshing well.
To be honest I'm no expert on this. Maybe someone else can chime in who is more knowledgeable.
If it were me, I'd consider swapping it out. As its an open diff it wouldn't be too expensive to change for a known good one of the same type.
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Nice job, do you have and iG account?
Cheers Kevin, and yep, we sure do! instagram.com/spannerrashteam/