Timelapse: 0:00 - Intro 0:55 - PvP Gear STATS? 2:54 - PvP Gear Set Bonus? 3:58 - PvP Trinket 5:13 - Class problems 5:14 - Paladin 5:48 - Mage 6:13 - Hunter 7:07 - Druid 8:02 - Rogue 8:35 - Priest 9:02 - Shaman 9:25 - Warlock 10:17 - OTHER THINGS! If you enjoyed the video make sure to hit the Subscribe and Like buttons! It means a lot! Thanks! :) 😄 🟢🟢 You can support me with small donations, so i can buy me a beer :P PayPal: streamelements.com/nibbaiwotl... 🟢🟢
PvP trinket is on a 5 min CD. Sheep/sap, etc still lasts 30 seconds which is multiple times longer than the average fight lasts, and getting hit by a stun in PvP without trinket available means you're dead. Paladins are able to continue DPS while bubbled. Rogues can kill you in 3 seconds without even going stealth. Pretty much every class has insane burst potential. I'm decked out in full PvP gear and still get 1 shotted by some classes. They need to just flat out reduce PvP damage by 50% and reduce the CD on trinket significantly to even begin making it playable.
Bro, love your videos. You've been making mostly analytical videos lately. Im sure they're very informative and useful for SoD players but for people like me who do not play but enjoy your videos. I want to see some action.
Great video. I agree with most of your point regarding abilities 👍 but resilience is a bad idea/fix. The problem with resilience is that it forces you into a very borring gear path where only pvp gear really works for pvp.., kinda feels bad when there is no overlap between pve and pvp. Pvp specific stats will undoubtedly completely seperate the community 👎
They have stated they dont want resiliance because they don't want that barrier to pvp participation. i think they should just cut 25% blanket on all damage done by a player, to a player.
fuck resilience we need to keep that out of SOD, SOD isn't about having having perfectly balanced pvp, it's about getting the raid pve gear and then one shotting ppl in pvp with it, all the pve gear should be bis for pvp, small bonuses just make things more complicated, need to keep it as simple as possible, there's a reason why there's no arenas in SOD and why in wotlk everyone was botting/paying for boosts/wintrading
Honestly at first when I started PvP in SoD I was like "everything does too much damage". We're missing either stamina or another stat for PvP because it's not playable right now. I'm Boomkin druid now, I was restoration but no point, it's a race to oneshot first. People are impossible to heal they get one shot everywhere. I'm level 50 with full new leather gear, almost 3K HP, rogues kill me in 3 globals.
They completely crushed PvP with the runes. Just way too much extra damage with stats we have. I never remember getting absolutely smoked in classic in a few seconds.
Many good ideas, but many of the ideas are something that don't feel classic-like. But anyway something needs to be done to burst meta in pvp. Either give every class runes which boost their survivability or introduce something like resilience. I know many classic players dislike resilience, but I don't see how can we make pvp without anything like it. I find it quite annoying that runes are so damage boost focused and there are barely any good survivability runes.
Yes yes and yes. Like i said i would prefere this one Decrese damage done of enemy abilities and attacks by 7-12 damage would do at little bit of defense next to stamina
Well,my mistake then. But im sure i saw it does nothing and even asked some guy dueler outside of Orgrimar and he said it literally does nothing 😄 When wotlk classic dropped it wasnt working, but they patched it fast
Sod is not a pvp expantion, its classic vanilla + . It has never been about balancing pvp, vanilla is the best mmo out there. So they should not try to make the classes more like retail!
Hey you cant tell me its not about pvp, when you have pvp events, now new pvp gear sets and so on. So it is about pvp and they do tuning in pvp, there was a time when priest SWD dealt like 1k damage 😏
Sorry, I have to go by. what should be said about Druid? or Is it just sad that someone kills you relatively easily? Should a druin be a super man that nobody kills? Should we remove the fact that the Druid can't change into bear form in the middle of the battle, pretty uber?
Some of these things arent bugs mate theyre unique to vanilla. For example scatter trap didnt share drs on private servers but it does in classic. Pets following stealthies has existed even in private server.
Man my point is - fck its Vanila because its trash. You cant tell me its normal for guy to vanish when you use spell that doesnt allow you to go stealth lol
Naah not mad at you, sorry haha 🤣 Man tooltip says preventing stealth and invisibility and then they are able to use Vanish which only purpose is to make you invisibility 🤣🤣 Ah if wotlk had half of players of SoD i eouldnt ever stop tbh 😄
@NibbaiWotlk Yeah I get that, but they changed that in TBC forcing you to waste cloak to vanish ^^ its just how vanilla was, its a mix of absolute trash hahahaa And I feel you man, I miss warmane.
Don't agree with all of the changes you proposed but I agree with the most of them. Another thing that is bothering me is the way they are trying to overcome ratials... giving aliance priests devouring plague and horde priests fear ward..." makes no sense... lore wise, how the fk would aliance priests learn an undead spell?! .... even giving "weapon skill options is nonsense..." the only viable solution imo would be if we could learn from other races from the same faction... for example, as an undead I would love to get Hardiness from orcs, I would grind my way to Honnored with them through quest (or a chain for example) and would be able to learn Hardiness and switch Cannibalize with Hardines... But even here.... idk...
Oh what exactly you dont agree with? 😁 Idnt really care much about racials but idea to go honored or exalted to be able to do same faction racials would be actually very good. Hardiness is insane tbh
Actually its not true. Yes healers with a lot of resilience couldnt die in wrath in 1v1 against anyone. Arms warr could shred all healers except good Hpala with 1.4k redilience. In real dueling it depended a lot on matchup. In some matchups reslience absolutely isnt the thing. Rogues are prefered to play under 1k resilience all the time i 1v1 and would burst down 1.5k resilience clothers in a blink of an eye In wotlk pve gear outscales pvp gear mostly because of very op hc trinkets in endgame
this is dumb just play cata. The reason i quit vanilla wow (which is the base of sod) is it has become just a game of gimmicks and consumes, when everyone has rocket helm and saps you for 30 sec then poly you off etc etc and you die in 2 seconds. it just becomes a game of who has living action potions, who has what on use gimmick and not so much class skills. Anyways thats way too many changes to ask for when yall could just play cata which has all of this :D
Man you are contradicting yourself. You just said you quit vanila because it became war of consumes and then you are mentioning cata which has absolutely nothing with those stupid pvp you can see in classic. If they made all of those changes it would more look like Wotlk which fixed all of these crap mechanics. All of this slow BS pvp mechanics are the reason all are depending on consumes and usable items which i hate the most. Wotlk is FAR FAR better than classic in terms of everything and ofc PVP
@@NibbaiWotlkI'm quit sod in phase 2 and having a blast on warmane I want to thank you personally for your past wotlk videos I hope you good god bless you.
There thefinetely needa to be something beside stamina in gear, seems like everyone has so much damage. Like you said if you increase a heal that doesnt mean they will suvive more lol. Thats PvE. Shadowstep is annoying, rogues have everything..
What would you say we need beside stam? 😄 I dont know if i hate shamans or rogues more. I think i hate shamans more, but im horde so i dont see lot of them. 😅
Timelapse:
0:00 - Intro
0:55 - PvP Gear STATS?
2:54 - PvP Gear Set Bonus?
3:58 - PvP Trinket
5:13 - Class problems
5:14 - Paladin
5:48 - Mage
6:13 - Hunter
7:07 - Druid
8:02 - Rogue
8:35 - Priest
9:02 - Shaman
9:25 - Warlock
10:17 - OTHER THINGS!
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Being able to queue BGs from anywhere would be so so nice. As horde, our queues are so long, there's no way I'm waiting in a city that whole time.
PvP trinket is on a 5 min CD.
Sheep/sap, etc still lasts 30 seconds which is multiple times longer than the average fight lasts, and getting hit by a stun in PvP without trinket available means you're dead.
Paladins are able to continue DPS while bubbled. Rogues can kill you in 3 seconds without even going stealth. Pretty much every class has insane burst potential.
I'm decked out in full PvP gear and still get 1 shotted by some classes.
They need to just flat out reduce PvP damage by 50% and reduce the CD on trinket significantly to even begin making it playable.
Love the feral response in intro jest being "ok"
What could feral say
Bro, love your videos. You've been making mostly analytical videos lately. Im sure they're very informative and useful for SoD players but for people like me who do not play but enjoy your videos. I want to see some action.
Okay mate, ill keep that in mind 🤗
Great video. I agree with most of your point regarding abilities 👍 but resilience is a bad idea/fix.
The problem with resilience is that it forces you into a very borring gear path where only pvp gear really works for pvp.., kinda feels bad when there is no overlap between pve and pvp. Pvp specific stats will undoubtedly completely seperate the community 👎
Great ideas for gear!
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Thanks!
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They have stated they dont want resiliance because they don't want that barrier to pvp participation. i think they should just cut 25% blanket on all damage done by a player, to a player.
Well this is great idea, didnt think of that! You are right
fuck resilience we need to keep that out of SOD, SOD isn't about having having perfectly balanced pvp, it's about getting the raid pve gear and then one shotting ppl in pvp with it, all the pve gear should be bis for pvp, small bonuses just make things more complicated, need to keep it as simple as possible, there's a reason why there's no arenas in SOD and why in wotlk everyone was botting/paying for boosts/wintrading
Honestly at first when I started PvP in SoD I was like "everything does too much damage". We're missing either stamina or another stat for PvP because it's not playable right now. I'm Boomkin druid now, I was restoration but no point, it's a race to oneshot first. People are impossible to heal they get one shot everywhere. I'm level 50 with full new leather gear, almost 3K HP, rogues kill me in 3 globals.
Yeah thats the thing im talking about. I would prefere this Decrease dmg thing on gear
They completely crushed PvP with the runes. Just way too much extra damage with stats we have. I never remember getting absolutely smoked in classic in a few seconds.
Many good ideas, but many of the ideas are something that don't feel classic-like. But anyway something needs to be done to burst meta in pvp. Either give every class runes which boost their survivability or introduce something like resilience. I know many classic players dislike resilience, but I don't see how can we make pvp without anything like it. I find it quite annoying that runes are so damage boost focused and there are barely any good survivability runes.
Yes yes and yes. Like i said i would prefere this one Decrese damage done of enemy abilities and attacks by 7-12 damage would do at little bit of defense next to stamina
Shadowstep dont remove root effects, if you use it when entangled you just get teleported to the enemy but still entangled
Thats what i meant, its idiotic anyway. You cant cast anything, ull get kicked/stunned/blinded easily
feign death stops casting already, in phase2 it was working
Well,my mistake then. But im sure i saw it does nothing and even asked some guy dueler outside of Orgrimar and he said it literally does nothing 😄
When wotlk classic dropped it wasnt working, but they patched it fast
Sod is not a pvp expantion, its classic vanilla + . It has never been about balancing pvp, vanilla is the best mmo out there. So they should not try to make the classes more like retail!
Hey you cant tell me its not about pvp, when you have pvp events, now new pvp gear sets and so on. So it is about pvp and they do tuning in pvp, there was a time when priest SWD dealt like 1k damage 😏
@@NibbaiWotlk Look you found a shaman main already! XD
have you ever played classic before? most of your points been like it all the time and are intended not buggy
I didnt play it. I said its not bugged i said its idiotic, it shouldnt be like thay because its not logical nothing more than that
You must be new here... They dont care about balance in SOD its not a perm game mode and will shut down at some point.
Im there from start, but it start becoming more and more idiotic in pvp with new spells and runes
Sorry, I have to go by. what should be said about Druid? or Is it just sad that someone kills you relatively easily? Should a druin be a super man that nobody kills? Should we remove the fact that the Druid can't change into bear form in the middle of the battle, pretty uber?
Man you completely missed the point just go by...
Pets following into stealth has been in the game since original vanilla. Its shit but I doubt it will change.
Some of these things arent bugs mate theyre unique to vanilla.
For example scatter trap didnt share drs on private servers but it does in classic.
Pets following stealthies has existed even in private server.
Man my point is - fck its Vanila because its trash. You cant tell me its normal for guy to vanish when you use spell that doesnt allow you to go stealth lol
@NibbaiWotlk Don't play it then bro, calm down lol don't shoot me haha.
It's obviously making you angry, just don't play it, come back to warmane
Naah not mad at you, sorry haha 🤣
Man tooltip says preventing stealth and invisibility and then they are able to use Vanish which only purpose is to make you invisibility 🤣🤣
Ah if wotlk had half of players of SoD i eouldnt ever stop tbh 😄
@NibbaiWotlk Yeah I get that, but they changed that in TBC forcing you to waste cloak to vanish ^^ its just how vanilla was, its a mix of absolute trash hahahaa
And I feel you man, I miss warmane.
Don't agree with all of the changes you proposed but I agree with the most of them. Another thing that is bothering me is the way they are trying to overcome ratials... giving aliance priests devouring plague and horde priests fear ward..." makes no sense... lore wise, how the fk would aliance priests learn an undead spell?! .... even giving "weapon skill options is nonsense..." the only viable solution imo would be if we could learn from other races from the same faction... for example, as an undead I would love to get Hardiness from orcs, I would grind my way to Honnored with them through quest (or a chain for example) and would be able to learn Hardiness and switch Cannibalize with Hardines... But even here.... idk...
I didnt uderstand thing you said bro in the first part of the text
@@NibbaiWotlk Sorry, rephrased it, see if it now works... :D
Oh what exactly you dont agree with? 😁
Idnt really care much about racials but idea to go honored or exalted to be able to do same faction racials would be actually very good. Hardiness is insane tbh
Uh Did you play when resilience was a thing? It was awful. There's a reason it wasn't in the game long. Those with it always won.
Actually its not true. Yes healers with a lot of resilience couldnt die in wrath in 1v1 against anyone. Arms warr could shred all healers except good Hpala with 1.4k redilience.
In real dueling it depended a lot on matchup. In some matchups reslience absolutely isnt the thing. Rogues are prefered to play under 1k resilience all the time i 1v1 and would burst down 1.5k resilience clothers in a blink of an eye
In wotlk pve gear outscales pvp gear mostly because of very op hc trinkets in endgame
clearly you havent played a paladin, go level one queue bgs and tell me how useful a 5min bubble is when you cant get near anybody
Thats why its nerfed in wotlk cuz its useless
Bro have you heard of the ashenvale pvp event? Free 1k rep per day past revered.
Bro still need couple of weeks cant speed run it like we could if they gave us more exp on actual pvp in WSG battegrounds
Shamans are perfectly balanced. Nerf hunters some more
Most nerfed class in the gaaaaame lol, stop nerfing us lol.
very high quality video. You have to have 100k subs
Haha thanks! 😅
this is dumb just play cata. The reason i quit vanilla wow (which is the base of sod) is it has become just a game of gimmicks and consumes, when everyone has rocket helm and saps you for 30 sec then poly you off etc etc and you die in 2 seconds. it just becomes a game of who has living action potions, who has what on use gimmick and not so much class skills. Anyways thats way too many changes to ask for when yall could just play cata which has all of this :D
Man you are contradicting yourself. You just said you quit vanila because it became war of consumes and then you are mentioning cata which has absolutely nothing with those stupid pvp you can see in classic. If they made all of those changes it would more look like Wotlk which fixed all of these crap mechanics. All of this slow BS pvp mechanics are the reason all are depending on consumes and usable items which i hate the most. Wotlk is FAR FAR better than classic in terms of everything and ofc PVP
@@NibbaiWotlk well i would say play wotlk but its over in a month thats why i said cata instead . same thing basically :D
go play wotlk =)
True that! I knew there will be some kind of this comment haha
But yeah, its true. Everything that classic lacks, wotlk has. Best expansion
@@NibbaiWotlkI'm quit sod in phase 2 and having a blast on warmane I want to thank you personally for your past wotlk videos I hope you good god bless you.
Thanks mate!
NO TO RES IN PVP. It hould be fun and oneshot and quick. Don't make it slow and boring as retail.
😬😬
Getting one shooted isn't fun either. I like to be able to have a chance to put play someone who opens up on me. Wtf? Classic Andy's are fuckin crazy
U miss a lot about warlocks.They need massive buff atm
No they don't, they are almost impossible to 1v1 with drain life and they continue it through cc lmao. Give me a break.
@@hayzedout2545 the game is not only 1v1 duel
There thefinetely needa to be something beside stamina in gear, seems like everyone has so much damage. Like you said if you increase a heal that doesnt mean they will suvive more lol. Thats PvE. Shadowstep is annoying, rogues have everything..
What would you say we need beside stam? 😄
I dont know if i hate shamans or rogues more. I think i hate shamans more, but im horde so i dont see lot of them. 😅
Ravenholdt sends its regards.
Stop play retail sod sh!t dude 😅😅
Play waaaat? 😅
@@NibbaiWotlk warmane onyxia is popping atm ? 😆
Poppin with 6k population? Thats number of ppl just in capital sities in SoD on 1 server 🤣
@@NibbaiWotlk i rather take 6k active players then 20k bots and retail players ;) but each to their own.
Nah bro, SoD has really really big player base its surely 3x when wotlk classic dropped
Shamans nerfed to the ground cant 1v1 any one now no defenses, no gap closer, now shamans are easy like warior, orceven worse
Nerfed when?
interesting accsess :)
What do you think of it? 😁
@@NibbaiWotlk i also think we should have something next to stamina. I would prefer that other solution without Resilience :)
Damage reduction one? :)
@@NibbaiWotlk ye
sounds like ur not a game designer