How to Reproduce Historic Window Trim | This Old House
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- Опубліковано 17 жов 2020
- Tom Silva tackles tricky original trim around the upstairs windows at Cape Ann
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Upstairs at the Cape Ann house, the elaborate trim around the landing windows broke during demo. Tom Silva and Mattie Forde, our finish carpenter, are working on replacement pieces.
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Wow , that tommy can fix anything love those video I can't tell you guys all the years I've watch them. Ron from Ga.
Just stumbled on this clip, I was working on that job site when part of it was filmed in Manchester by the sea in Massachusetts. I stripped, repaired, and sanded the handrail of the stairwell you could see in the foreground. Briefly got to talk to Tommy, seems like a nice guy even off camera.
Hey guys, Moulding Warehouse in Hammonds Plains, NS produce many of those old period mouldings in MDF or poplar, including elliptical, half round or eyebrow curves.
I know he's on a tv show but I hope Tommy gets paid well for his work.
they do, all of the permanent hosts are millionaires, they make roughly 165k to 230k per year pre tax. The bulk doesn't come from the tv show however, its subscriptions and books.
@@MoneyAndPeople so he's paid to be on show. What about all the contractor work?
@@juliof970 given the quality of the work they do, I doubt they work cheap. But, probably still bid jobs like every other contractor.
@@Iowagrown123 That's what made me ask. He does such high quality work.
@@juliof970 there isn't much data available for there work and pay outside of the tv show and subscriptions/books. They likely do make a hefty sum contract work, but i can't even give an estimate unfortunately.
He is very well paid rest assured. But it not all about the money, that’s the perk. The satisfaction is in doing the work you enjoy and doing it well. Then sharing your craft with up and coming tradesman.
They’d get more attention if they were fixing a fender on a ‘57 Chevy. This deserves as much attention, if not more. This is just as much a part of our history.
I thought they would make a copy of the trim from another window oh well.
Great tip! Thanks
First like and first comment. Love you TOH!!!!
As with most older homes, the window is offset because it would look odd from the outside if they changed it. Basically it's an unspoken rule that stairs and closets don't matter from the inside. The home was designed so only larger rooms lined up with windows that were evenly placed from the outside view. If you needed balance on the outside there might be a window in a closet to maintain that!
Tommy does good he has been on the shiw scince the early 80s
It occurs to me the window may have been central to the stair well but a wall was built to the left of the window frame ... I didn't see hear it mentioned so apologies if I missed it.
It occurred to me too that the aesthetic appeal was somewhat lacking but the window had to be "conserved" as opposed to restored.
We have similar here but there would have been loads of pictures taken and buildings archaeologist on hand to examine the frame as it was dismantled, taking pictures of joints, nails, paint scrapings, any insect remains etc, etc.
Possibly the local historical society folks wanted it kept just so because that window design, and position, may have been a feature/trademark of a local architect?
Our builders love finding "archaeology" ... work has to stop until it has been surveyed, and excavated molecule by molecule almost.
Did you mean "repurpose"?
Were windows just installed that close to corners back then? It seems to lose some functionality/appeal to me personally.
I agree, it's ugly interior wise; but; It may be lining up on the exterior...It's centered on the down staircase so. That may have been the top landing at one time...Our houses in the east, especially large ones, are often remodeled many times over a century, or more...:)...
@@brianglade848 ... proper local dialect.... are = ahhh (all Rs are replaced by an H) Oh, when we see a letter A it might have an R following it. (example: get a bucket of soapy watah and warsh the cah) The round thing under the head of a screw is called a wah-shah.... but you can skip that if you use enough white cahpentah's glue!
Really surprised they didn't strip and repaint the trim while they had it down
2nd!
Caulk and paint, make it what it ain't !
@@Kevin-mp5of, Yes Sir !!
How to reproduce historic window trim:
Step 1 - Take matching trim from other room.
Step 2 - Install trim.
Got it. Easy. Totally “reproducing” it.
I agree. I watched it because I thought they were going to reproduce
i would just trash it
Reproduce more like repair. Replace.
Where does one find reproduction trim? We had door replaced and carpenter removed door trim and replaced it with cheap builder's special and now it does match trim of the other doors.
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... you can type "reproduction wood trim" into Google or Bing to see what's out there or have a shop make it from a sample, but it's not cheap. The other trick is to borrow pieces from inside a closet where it doesn't show then replace that with something easier to obtain.
@@rupe53 Thanks - I've a number of online searches, but no luck in that department. As to local sourcing, I had the same luck. Probably why the carpenter used builder's special ...
@@Pallidus_Rider ... you can search out woodworking shops or a millwright. Maybe it can be reproduced using a sample or even a good photo. Then of course there are demolition / salvage shops that specialize in saving old stuff. There was one in Stamford Ct for years and you could wander through their inventory looking for clawfoot tubs or old doors / windows / trim, etc. Sadly they closed up a few months ago because the property was more valuable than the 3rd generation business.
@@rupe53 Thanks again. Seems like you and I both have same strategy. Experience here, is that proper wood worker is hard to find, as the carpenter who does estimate is not the one who does the work. Work seems to be contracted out to foreign worker ...
@@Pallidus_Rider ... one last thought here... seek out a cabinet maker and pose the question. They may have a recommendation for a mill work shop. Quite often these shops are run by a small business guy out of his home so it's a word of mouth thing. Depending on the style of trim it might be duplicated on a router table.
Who is the guy who did the demo? Doesn't he know what a saws all is for? Like cutting nails.
Can you guys collab with @donttrythis ? You guys could drop a ton of knowledge onto him. He is a maker, but I don't think his craftsman book is as deep as it should be.
The poor painters who have to come in next and try and make that mess look good!
I thought this was going to be about reproducing trim profiles. Not robbing a piece from downstairs and using it on a window upstairs.
Can't believe that whoever did the demo didn't use caution and save all of the old window trim. Very valuable. Also I would of moved the window to the right a inch or so. I couldn't tell from the view but definitely needs to be centered to the stairs. Just the way my brain works. Otherwise great repair, breaks looked clean with no splits, shocking.
No! Not an inch ... "tree qwata ... nice and easy".
I bet Kevin did it first 🤔😭.
Missing the window stop moulding, and why not leave a reveal? Window looks odd jammed up so close to that wall.
A contract worker broke it? Not surprising, I had some work done on my home two months ago; they left behind a disastrous mess, put the wrong door in the wrong entrance and broke something I would've moved. Too many people don't take pride in what they do anymore.
@@Kevin-mp5of I might be older than you. I remember when there was more pride than not.
a qwawtr to da left. Nice n easy. Tawk er in place. Good jawb. Let’s go for cawfee.
ya think they reinstalled lead paint?
just make replicas
My favorite word in construction
JUST
NEED TO MOVE THE WINDOW TO THE RIGHT, ITS TO FAR TO THE LEFT............
This is not “reproducing” trim. This is salvaging and repairing trim. Reproducing would be making new trim...?!?!?
Reproduce??