DIY Dimple Plates - No fancy tools.
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- Опубліковано 2 лис 2024
- Here's a simple sheet metal how to video for making dimples in panels. No expensive tooling was used. Why spend the money if you don't have to?
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For putting the initial holes in you should shop around for used Grenlee can Cutters. I used them hundreds of times to locate holes in electrical panels to allow them sit lower to the ground in contrast to the meter when used outside. I did electrical work for years doing this. The cutters last 5 years longer than eternity and you could probably find some really good deals. We used 1 1/2 and 2” cutters with the same bolt and bearing. Much cleaner hole than a hole saw.
I was seconds from buying $500 worth of dies! I have a lathe and mill but the time to make tool/die was just worth more than buying. You just saved me $500!! The satisfaction is priceless!
Glad that worked for you.
Improvisation is the name of the game. I make tools all the time just for me. Some are crude if they are a one time use, and others I spend a little more time making if I plan on using them over and over. It's really good you share your ideas because most people can't afford to buy a one time tool. Great video. Kudos!
Trailer balls are available in a few good sizes for larger holes....
Helping us peasants save some money. Thank you!
Great video! Why are Canadian fabricators so practical, smart, and funny? Thanks for the simple straight forward information.
Great video. This video was the first one that came up for me when I went searching for how to do dimple plates at home and I'm so glad I found it after seeing the price of what die sets cost. I'm going to give an old trailer ball and a correctly sized pipe cap a try
I made some with a 1" ball bearing and a block of oak. I drilled a 3/4 " hole in the sheet metal. Squeezed it in my 5" vise. I'll be heading to the hardware store to find some pipe caps. Thanks for posting.
You just saved me a ton of money. I just have one project to do and didn't want to buy an expensive dimple set. Thank you!
Glad I could help!
Excellent video. The simplicity of it all makes buy store bought dies unnecessary. The money can be spent on something more proper and fitting for your project. Thanks for sorting out the details on this!
Thanks for the video sir, very informative and straight to the point.. I gave up tv long ago because of guys like you.. you're truly changing the world for us little guys.. Thanks again ! 👍👍
You just created the exhaust ports for a 55 Oldsmobile! Great job. Thank you for the lesson. 👍🏻
As a fellow Canadian I loved this video as I’m getting ready to start to build a rat rod. Thanks so very much.
Glad to help. Good luck with your build.
I love simple inexpensive solutions no need to purchase those expensive dies now i think i will scour the workshop for some homemade dies and anvils. Thanks a lot guys
The socket and press method looks the best.thanks bro. Now I know what to do as a diyer thank you
Cool- now I see possibilities all over the workshop. Thanks
Awesome video. I liked and subbed. Please produce more content like this. I'll be looking through your vids to find more. Thanks!
Nice demonstration of getting things done with minimal expense. Most of us DIY'ers and hobby fabricators need to do lots of tasks only once or twice. The proper tooling would be nice but not very financially practical.
A number of years ago I needed to flare some 3/4" copper pipe for the making of spill-proof oil/cutting fluid cans for the shop. I annealed the copper and used the ball end of a ball peen hammer to fabricate the flare. It worked perfectly and required not one penny in funds spent on a specialized tool. So, I would suggest a set of cheap ball peen hammers from Harbor Freight or Princess Auto along with some find grit sanding/polishing to make a whole range of inexpensive dimpling rams. Obviously, hand tool sockets and/or steel pipe caps can function as the dies.
Cool, i love the simplicity of it! Old fashion ingenuity verses store bought. I think you learn so much more figuring things out, well done...
I use a similar technique but cut holes in wood and use the wood as a die. It's nice to see other people's methods though and work them into yours routine. I like the use of the pipe caps and even though I have several caps and couplers lying around, I don't know why I hadn't previously thought of it lol.
Wood works great. Use it all the time for hammer forms and simple shaping.
Thanks for the awesome video. Been wanting to integrate this into my custom interior design, and with your helpful DIY tips I can get it done.
Thanks James - glad it helped.
Thanks for the great fabrication tips. I will definitely put these DIY techniques to good use on my next project.
Glad you found these useful.
I just love simplicity and creativity. Thanks for posting.
Always good ideas 👍, I did a super simple one using a 20mm wood board and hole saw it, lightly file the radius, screw the panel to it and Hammer away , end result was good for what was needed
Muchas Felicidades Joven Por Su Canal.
Saludos Cordiales Desde Mazatlán. Sinaloa, México. ..
Gracias por ver mi video
Nice, good job Canada, you have inspired me. Glad I found your video. Gonna go check out your other stuff now.
Very cool video. A DIY dimple maker without the expensive tools. Love it
I was going to buy a set of dies a couple years ago 'till I saw the outrageous price's they want. Like you, I ended up using various sockets and other junk to accomplish my needs. If I can find a decent used lathe, I'll make a few sizes out of heavy steel. These tools are not something the average person uses on a daily basis. Its just not worth spending hundreds of dollars for manufactured sets. Enjoyed your video muchly.
Check Facebook iv seen some groups for machining stuff and there's some amazing deals Boxford for Chinese lathe money
@@lscarlet2475 Thanks for info.
Got me thinking of things I have around the shop I can use!
Lots of things can be used!
Very cool ! Nice job being creative and showing the how to's . Thanks so much and cant wait to give this a spin
Hey mate great video I do some metal shaping and have been asked if a could do a custom engine cover with dimples in it and we'll I haven't got any dies but now after watching your video I'm now able to have a look around my workshop to see what I can use to make them thanks mate for making this video has helped alot thanks mate Wayne
That was really a great explanation and practical side by side 😀.....
I appreciate that. Thankyou so much for your way of loving your job.... 😊
Thank you for this innovative video, these techniques will certainly be of immense usefulness to many viewers. Subscribed.
Thanks for the sub!
Hey! No music except the heater which is obviously necessary. No major energy eating machinery which helps make a green planet (as if they need more green in Canada. I could clearly understand the concept and the language without getting bored by the length. Very Good! JD
Good video. I use a soft rubber plug the size of the hole to center the part over a pipe coupling ground to a 45. That way I use my press and the part stays centered over the die.
Wow that was so on point!! Nice trick!!
I've made numerous repair/replacement aircraft wing ribs using these and similar techniques. One other means that works well, is an hydraulic press method using thick rubber that flows into wooden die. Of course, aluminum sheet metal forms much easier than steel sheet metal, but the method is the same.
Yes! Wooden bucks have been used in auto & aero part/panel making since the beginning, haven't they? Sure, metal dies last nearly forever. But wood is easy enough to just make another when it wears out.
Speed holes made easy👍 . Im a big fan of tieing the roll cage to the A pillars . thanks for the tip .
Glad it was useful for you!
I was thinking of ways to use a press and those caps while you were hammering away. I bet I could fab up a box with some plate I've got to use under the cap for the press. Not sure, I'd have to get my hands on it and see what I can do but I'll tell you what, you've inspired me. Thanks for the video!
Thanks Joe - it'll work. I especially like old ball bearings and sockets for making detail dimples.
Sure, why not use a cap below & cap above (both facing up like a cup) in the press? In other words, the head of the cap above presses metal into the cup of the cap below. Seems simple enough, unless I'm missing something?
@@drewt3210 I was thinking the same thing. Good idea.
Thanks for this video because of people like u I've saved so much money and have learned a lot
Fantastic tools.. keep up the great work
Glad you like them!
Awesome! Just got my railroad bolt. Didn't even get caught by the search helicopter after the train crashed.
Im always fixing or making something.. I'll definitely be using these methods.. Nicely done, and thanks for sharing...🍻🍻🍻
Enjoying your videos! Here's an idea for you - put the dimpling dome on the press facing UP and the cup on top.... then the panel will center itself on the dome.
That's a great idea!
Great Video - Really enjoy how you explained making the dimples.
Thanks! Glad it was useful.
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Great information and techniques
Thanks man, I'll be using this method. I can appreciate the challenge of living through winters in the Great White North. I spent one in Sudbury.
👌 this video is just pure gold 👍
Thanks! Hope it helps.
I have been planning to do this with some mockup / install bearing races I keep around. This just gave me a bunch more sizes to work with. Thanks! Liked and scribed
Genius idea of using slightly modified threaded pipe caps.
The plumbing section is full of cool solutions.
That's pretty handy! Thanks for the tip!
Awesome video thanks. I did have to chuckle tho when you're like "I did this with a grinder, no fancy tools, no lathe or anything like that you don't need anything fancy. Now let's go over to my hydraulic press........" 😂😂😂
Most garages have a press for bushes and bearings, I give my local garage a couple of quid to press bearings in for me. You would need an engineering workshop to find a lathe.
fantastic video. I do this kinda thing all the time, we have a small body shop in a small border town. I make my own tools a lot, great to see someone else doin it. now the fun part since I am an EXPERT, funny rite? this works for me if you cut the top off your plumbing caps on the bigger ones you can use the BLUE hammer cone part insert into hole and tap with a urethane hammer it will self-center and you can make depth as you like. for everyone else buy couplings from a hardware store, no cutting cap off just some grinding to get the desired effect. buy nipples of the right size and buy what they call close nipples, tack them to table screw coupling on the nipple and you don't have to chase anything around. justJim JUSTSAYIN GOD BLESS
Thanks Jim - great tip.
Big sockets and a full set of trailer hitch balls is what I use in my 20 ton air over hydraulic shop press. You can also use bearing races as a forming die, but they are harder to center.
I've got a set of front wheel bearing inner races that I've used. They were for deep ball races - they work great.
You earned a subscriber sir!
thank u for the info good old school for got about some of the stuff
Lots of different ways to find a solution. Many don't cost a lot of money.
Great mate, bloody great thanks a lot from here in South Australia
Wow....amazed 👏👏👏 great 📹❗‼❗⏺⏺⏺liked and subscribed
Thanks - we'll get up to more fun stuff in a bit.
Not all heroes wear capes. The guys who sell those kits must hate him.
ohh man, you just saved my money on buying some fancy tools. ahahah thanks a lot..
Glad I could help!
Fucking outstanding. Great idea and execution. Great video no bullshit just good info. Keep em coming bud
Obrigado pela aula. parabéns, gostei muito, não por gastar pouco por sua criatividade Deus o abençoe sua mente..🙏🙏🇧🇷😍
Thanks for the class. Congratulations, I liked it a lot, not for spending a little for your creativity God bless you on your mind..🙏🙏🇧🇷😍
Interesting and easy to do! *QUESTION:* We're converting a school bus into a tiny home on wheels and used a step drill bit to make 1" holes every 8 inches in the hat channel running around the walls to the ceiling so we could spray foam insulate the void space. Do you think we need to dimple those holes? Or did the act of just drilling the holes harden the metal enough? We would be able to hold a ball-peen hammer to each hole and then hit it with a mallet to achieve the same dimple you showed here.
Thanks so much for this informative video! We just started following your channel because we were researching this question & you showed up first! Looking forward to learning more metalwork from your vids!
- Brian + Erin
Currently converting a '97 Thomas Saf-T-Liner School Bus into a tiny home on wheels in Ontario.
Interesting question Brian + Erin. I would doubt that the little bit of heat had any dramatic effect on the strength of the metal. The tool (hammer in your case) does need a die to work properly (I've used sockets, pipe caps...really anything round (even wood)) to do this. You could also flare the holes out rather than in depending on what goes up against them. In this case a few passes with a crescent wrench will do the trick. Best if you can get something in behind and then tap the metal down. Given that you're filling the space with spray foam - there probably isn't much need for additional stiffness when done. Or you could tap the metal back when the foam has set. Just take your time and be careful with it - you're not driving nails into 2 X 4's. All the best on your adventures.
@@ThrottleStopGarage Thanks so much for your response and insight! That makes perfect sense. We've already filled the space with spray foam as the hat channel is OEM from Thomas Buses installed with sheet metal attached. So getting inside to back it with a socket before dimpling is not possible. Based on your response and the strength of the hat channel, I think we can forego dimpling. We had someone comment on our video where we drilled the holes and he said that we should have dimpled them. That's when we started to do research and found you to see how it's done :) Just didn't know if it would be possible to do your method from the interior of the bus without backing it with a socket. We'll try one to see if it dimples in easily, and if not, leaving it how it is might be the best option.
Keep on creating awesome vids! Appreciate ya!
- Brian + Erin
Real metalwork.
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Thanks for helping me with this.
Happy to help
I really liked your video.
Thanks Jim.
People should also know that you need to bend the flare over by more than 70 degrees to retain strength. I see many only 30 or so degrees, not good enough.
Rule of thumb is no more than 70% hole diameter of the part width, and you should be able to draw 2 x 45 degree lines to form an "X" (90 degree intersection) to gauge distance between holes
You need to do a video on how to clean up and organize your shop! I think that would be very useful to many folks.
I really just need to clean and organize my shop! I can hardly move in here right now.
Did anyone ever tell you that you have a beautiful smile? I wonder if older/newer vids have you without a winter-beard? I'm curious. As for the dimpling, sandwiching the sheet will stop it warping as you go, I think. And finally, the rating on the press is in ton which is imperial and works out to about 9.5 tonne (metric) - I have a 20 ton jack for my press project and did the math on leverage ratios/weight on handle, and pressure in cylinder vs diameter etc and it was spot on, quite difficult to pull harder at the max rating, though, so typical use would be half or under at a guess.
The beard length changes with season and what I'm doing. So short at the moment. Sandwich plates work great, but take more time if you're just looking to knock some dimples into a part.
I liked the first method you used, as it seems a little cleaner. Cheers :-)
It is...until you need a really large dimple.
For the larger holes you could just buy the matching nipple and slightly modify it I'm sure. Good thinking btw, I'm definitely going to try this out!
Good tip Chris - I'm also thinking of picking up a few tow hitch balls to add to my collection.
If you used a Forstner drill bit to sink the socket into a piece of wood, you might be able to clamp the metal to that wood and make centering and set up easier. I’d think spring clamps would be fine. Could help prevent warping the metal too.
I love you videos!! Fun and informative.
Thanks Jonn.
Keep up the good work ! Love these type of videos ! 💪😎🤙
Great video, just discovered the channel and subbed! Great stuff👍
Thank you.
it's a shame that there are more than 250,000 views and only a paltry 3,800 likes. that's just sad.
I feel so bad I actually machined a full set of belling dies as a project in metal shop way back in 1984 still have them and then had sets of them fabed only a few left but there mine!
Thanks for sharing..... pretty informative.
Great fabrication tips.
Thank you!
You did an awsome job thank you like that you said you could use it in the press .
Thanks Tony.
That was awesome I love it kool idea
Thank you! Cheers!
Great job, I will try that
Really awsome ideas man . Where would I find a couple different mallets like you are using in this video, and what is it actuaslly called?
Thanks Jason. The blue urethane hammers are from Eastwood (www.eastwood.com/ew-teardrop-mallet-23-4in-diameter.html). Someone commented that they were "expensive" - they're sub $40 each. I also frequently use an old yellow Estwing urethane hammer (they don't sell them anymore) that I modified with one round end. I've had it for over 20 years and don't think it cost more than $20. I make a lot of my own dollies and tooling - if I buy it, I buy it to last and work properly.
Look for planishing tools and metal shaping/bodywork hammers.
Perfect work thanks for you'r time, gracias
Thank you for the tutorial😊
Glad you found it useful.
Great ideas!
Thanks.
You honestly saved me 200 bucks here, Ive got a ricer track car and a 24 hours of lemons race car and it just felt wrong going out and buying tools only for these two crap baskets to only use on occasion...
Glad you found this useful. Have fun fabricating.
This dude is a legend
10 Chinese tons 😅
Ah this may seem like a bit of a daft question but , WHY is it that you don't make a jig for this where you can center the mallet as a form tool and then place the sheet on top with the Gal Pipe cap as your female former that you can then strike with a Hammer OR better still place that in the press so that the sheet ins't stretched resulting in the deformation. just a thought . Like you I don't posses fancy tools but I do posess outside the box thinking and use what ever is at hand to achieve the required outcome. I must admit though that I made several Male and Female die's for use in the press which as you know yields much better and consistent results.
Always good to see how other's do things
Simple - time. When I need a dimpled hole, then I can just make it and get on with the rest of the job. I'm not doing 10's of panels or even holes. I dimpled my seat brackets and dead pedal. Took no time at all. I may never do another dimple that size. If I owned a shop and was banging these out for every project, then for sure, make a die or buy a set.
I subscribed to your channel. Keep havin Fun!
How many times do you hit your fingers .. eh! . Great work I'm going to try it
Almost never...almost.
Great ideas!!!!
Glad you like them!
Great video
Was going to try this with a ball peen hammer and a old socket. I really wanted a set of dimple dies but not for the prices people are asking…
It'll work. I use sockets all the time. Haven't even cracked one.
This is great. Thank you.
You're very welcome!
I found a 3 inch ball bearing for $ 11.00 and works for most sizes. Old school
Chuck Lenhart where? Link?
I have a bro in Calgary He likes cars too. He has a Cougar XR7 eliminator he found out there for 500 bucks!
Wow pretty nice!!
Alternatively, cut the handle off of one of those tapered mallets and use it as a variable size dimple press. One tool for multiple sizes and rather inexpensive so you don't feel bad about cutting it up. 👍