I bought fyreslayers as my first army after the starter set for AoS 2, but barely played them in AoS 2 and only the beginning of AoS 3, after loosing every game I finally sold them and have played a lot of different armies since then. But the last month I just felt I regretted selling than and now in progress to rebuy and paint my lost army. Now I’ve played lots of armies and tournaments I feel it’s finally time for the slow and steady Fyreslayers! 😊
I'm generally okay with most of the changes with the army, the Runemaster buff ability is a bit iffy to me because realistically its usually going off twice a game before getting sniped. Also it's basically 1 ability taking up two abilities. If there was another "spend x amount of token(s) to do Y" I think it would be fine. Hearthguard being a 6+ save really hurts since they are some of the toughest of the faction lore wise and now they have the same save as a common goblin really stings. I understand their role is hero guard but oof that stings, give the dual axe vulkite something like that not THE ELITE (minus grimwrath and rune father of course) of the faction. The potential army wide 6+ ward will help with that, lots of tricks to keep them up and only saw basically half our range in the preview but we'll see what the rest bring.
I like the way you explained the power of the 2 cast priest and the cumulative buffs possible on their infantry tied with battle traits and other units
I like the runes being triggered in the relevant phase, since the game is more dynamic with the reactions phase to phase strategy might change. Its also easier on my squirrel brain to activate in something in the phase im in rather than activate an effect in one phase and use the effect in another phase, in case I get distracted.
I really like the lore on these guys - hammering their god into their flesh to blaze their power back into the world is cool. These mechanics look really fun - if a little bit like juggling effects and triggers all at the right time or it all falls apart as 6+ save dies real fast even if 2 wounds. Shame they all look the same... The Volcanic Blood is a passive ability so a unit is only affected by it once anyway so only ever 1 damage?
Never played AOS before but this edition is mine. I really hope Spearhead will be any good. Playing some Warcry and this sounds like a great addition! Thanks for covering all that content!
I just read, and i didnt saw it by myself, the enhanced effekt of the Rune of Relentless Zeal gives you +1 to Run Rolls, but the Rune is activated in the Charge Phase, that is weird.
I don't understand the need for a triple nerf to hearthguard. Save from 5 to 6, ward from 4 to 5 and hero needs to be within 9 to 3. Any one of those would be impactful, all 3 is excessive. They better be dirt cheap now.
Jumping back in after a 5ish year hiatus. Im between Fyreslayers and KO. Never played dwarves in any tabletop game so ive decided its time. What should i go with?! All incite welcome
The D3 one has become a bit divisive in club conversations with people in both camps. I think the problem is that a lot of people are highly resistant to the idea of an auto-fail a third of the time, so are grasping at the idea that it's only the 1 on the face of the D6 which auto-fails. If you're asked to roll a D3, there is no D6: it's simply a proxy to get your D3 result.
I plan to go back to playing my Fyreslayers a lot more assuming the rules match up so these actually play well. Otherwise love my SCE & still haven’t really played my Seraphon or Slaanesh I built much and sounds like I’ll just wait to bring me Ogors back until they refresh the range. Or maybe at least, a little reach around would be nice for my Fatties.
I cant wait to play this army, oh wait, yes I can. Great video Rob gona have to watch out for these slippery dorfs. Also please make sure you dont skip the IdK ;)
Play 40k and looking to get an army for AOS, was thinking Dearves since i love them in fantasy, they seem good, though I'm not sure. Dwarves or Dinos for me.
On the website, it looks like we have two sets of battle traits and ur gold runes... What's up with that? We even have two runes of fury with different effects.
Thanks for the vid 😀 I'm a bit of a smooth brain but this army seems a bit lacking rules wise. Slow close combat army that's easy to kill? Not a great plan. Some nice combos that takes survivability from terrible to bad but probably not enough. I get that GW were basing armour saves on armour worn, but I feel natural toughness should have been taken into account. Dwarfs usually make up for a lack of speed with being very tough. These guys have neither speed nor resilience. I like the army but they need more models(some actual units would be nice) and better rules. I don't want these guys to be squatted due to a stunted model line and weak rules.
Can wizards and priests attempt to dispell both endless spells and invocations, or can wizards only dispell endless spells and priests can only dispell invocations?
I’ve always like the idea of fire slayers.. the range is so boring though. They need some variety other than orange Mohawk guys with axes. Maybe some flame throwers guys. Or some flame cannon things. Or even a fire powered dreadnought walker thing. Just something
As a Slayer player the big 3 units that I see wanted are a smaller dog/horse sized magmadroths for fast attack or cav, Avatar of Grimnir which would be awesome, and then a shield maidens elite unit. Gonna hook myself back to the hopium for the meanwhile.
Loving the Fyreslayers. 6+ ward army wide really helps with the squishy-ness the army has always had. Runes are better, and the Bois feel like the god-infused Dwarves they were always meant to be!
There's a pretty obvious mistake with the runemaster because the +1 to run can't really be used unless you went first and you're only getting it for +1 to redeploy. Which feels odd. Also I'm not convinced +1 to run rolls counts for redeploy. It doesn't say run abilities, it says run rolls. They're not the same.
I maintain that the 2+ on a D3 is the silliest of silly rules. Why can't it just do D3 damage and be done with it? I will die on this hill if I have to.
Latchkey doing 3 damage doesn't make sense. Berserkers 3+/3+ makes n sense. Dwarves are stronger than stormcast? Hit as well as elves, wound as well as Orruk? Dwarves are the pinnacle species in the mortal realms? Feels like they threw their own metrics out the window for fyreslayers. On top of the fact that they get more buffs so far that we've seen out of any army.
I'm a Dwarf apologist, and for starter, yes Dwarf are the best race thank for noticing, and second this are not normal dwarf, this are a warrior race of super roided up dwarf powered by the shards of a Berserker God, and the units they have focused in this article are the èlite of this society, the stronghest and the most skilled warriors of the lodges (in lore normal dwarf are stronger and more durable than human and elfs, but they are slower and worse at magic)
@@riccardopaglicci5028 ya maybe. Still seems like if the idea is that everything is supposed to be tuned down slightly, what we just saw from Fyreslayers doesn't say "toned down" to me. Seems like they're stronger than ever.
@@markpandelidis2079 you are right, but maybe the new and more lore friendly power they recived (some new ability are really really strong i admit it) is a compensation for the less resilient nature of the army, like now a shooting barrage is gonna kill a loat of them
@@riccardopaglicci5028 that's true, they're quite fragile to shooting. Still disagree that the latchkey should be damage 3. Just feels like they decided to not follow their own process. It would've been fine at damage 2 and just upped the attacks if you it to do more damage.
Is it racist that both of the main dwarf factions are all in it for the gold? Also hyped for these lads to get squatted and turned into Chorfs 2.0. (I'm sticking to this)
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I bought fyreslayers as my first army after the starter set for AoS 2, but barely played them in AoS 2 and only the beginning of AoS 3, after loosing every game I finally sold them and have played a lot of different armies since then. But the last month I just felt I regretted selling than and now in progress to rebuy and paint my lost army. Now I’ve played lots of armies and tournaments I feel it’s finally time for the slow and steady Fyreslayers! 😊
I'm generally okay with most of the changes with the army, the Runemaster buff ability is a bit iffy to me because realistically its usually going off twice a game before getting sniped. Also it's basically 1 ability taking up two abilities. If there was another "spend x amount of token(s) to do Y" I think it would be fine.
Hearthguard being a 6+ save really hurts since they are some of the toughest of the faction lore wise and now they have the same save as a common goblin really stings. I understand their role is hero guard but oof that stings, give the dual axe vulkite something like that not THE ELITE (minus grimwrath and rune father of course) of the faction. The potential army wide 6+ ward will help with that, lots of tricks to keep them up and only saw basically half our range in the preview but we'll see what the rest bring.
I like the way you explained the power of the 2 cast priest and the cumulative buffs possible on their infantry tied with battle traits and other units
I like the runes being triggered in the relevant phase, since the game is more dynamic with the reactions phase to phase strategy might change. Its also easier on my squirrel brain to activate in something in the phase im in rather than activate an effect in one phase and use the effect in another phase, in case I get distracted.
I really like the lore on these guys - hammering their god into their flesh to blaze their power back into the world is cool. These mechanics look really fun - if a little bit like juggling effects and triggers all at the right time or it all falls apart as 6+ save dies real fast even if 2 wounds.
Shame they all look the same...
The Volcanic Blood is a passive ability so a unit is only affected by it once anyway so only ever 1 damage?
Every time you make a 1 is a mortal. A passive activate on the condition declared. At that is the way i read it.
Never played AOS before but this edition is mine. I really hope Spearhead will be any good. Playing some Warcry and this sounds like a great addition! Thanks for covering all that content!
I just picked up fyreslayers 3 days before this dropped. I’m already stoked for it. Seems like a very swingy army with A LOT of skill expression
I just read, and i didnt saw it by myself, the enhanced effekt of the Rune of Relentless Zeal gives you +1 to Run Rolls, but the Rune is activated in the Charge Phase, that is weird.
True, they probably screw up.
I don't understand the need for a triple nerf to hearthguard. Save from 5 to 6, ward from 4 to 5 and hero needs to be within 9 to 3. Any one of those would be impactful, all 3 is excessive. They better be dirt cheap now.
Jumping back in after a 5ish year hiatus. Im between Fyreslayers and KO. Never played dwarves in any tabletop game so ive decided its time. What should i go with?! All incite welcome
Fyreslayers! Always Fyreslayers!
Honest Wargamer video? Don't mind if I do.
Fyreslayers are looking fantastic.
Amazing content as always. Thank you, Rob. Will be buying your objectives too.
These videos are AWESOME Rob, easily my favourite channel from the first 2 mins of watching you the other day :)
The D3 one has become a bit divisive in club conversations with people in both camps. I think the problem is that a lot of people are highly resistant to the idea of an auto-fail a third of the time, so are grasping at the idea that it's only the 1 on the face of the D6 which auto-fails.
If you're asked to roll a D3, there is no D6: it's simply a proxy to get your D3 result.
You are getting me excited for AoS4 and fyreslayers
I plan to go back to playing my Fyreslayers a lot more assuming the rules match up so these actually play well. Otherwise love my SCE & still haven’t really played my Seraphon or Slaanesh I built much and sounds like I’ll just wait to bring me Ogors back until they refresh the range. Or maybe at least, a little reach around would be nice for my Fatties.
Lord of change got me in this one. Wasn’t expecting it 😂
I cant wait to play this army, oh wait, yes I can. Great video Rob gona have to watch out for these slippery dorfs. Also please make sure you dont skip the IdK ;)
Love seeing these factions I don't play, it's very interesting and pretty inspiring (KO this edition!!!)
Writing down that wombo-combo right now.
Fyrebros!!
Play 40k and looking to get an army for AOS, was thinking Dearves since i love them in fantasy, they seem good, though I'm not sure. Dwarves or Dinos for me.
On the website, it looks like we have two sets of battle traits and ur gold runes... What's up with that?
We even have two runes of fury with different effects.
The second picture of battle traits is for spearhead, a smaller game mode you play with the contents of the vanguard/spearhead boxes
Thx for the clarification.
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Can we please start referring to the Molten Infernoth as Boris? It really rolls off the tongue better.
Thanks for the vid 😀 I'm a bit of a smooth brain but this army seems
a bit lacking rules wise. Slow close combat army that's easy to kill? Not a great plan. Some nice combos that takes survivability from terrible to bad but probably not enough.
I get that GW were basing armour saves on armour worn, but I feel natural toughness should have been taken into account. Dwarfs usually make up for a lack of speed with being very tough. These guys have neither speed nor resilience.
I like the army but they need more models(some actual units would be nice) and better rules. I don't want these guys to be squatted due to a stunted model line and weak rules.
Can wizards and priests attempt to dispell both endless spells and invocations, or can wizards only dispell endless spells and priests can only dispell invocations?
Both
i feel like owning an actual D3 is going to be a big quality of life must have for 4th
It sure will be a nice to have, but dividing a D6 into 1/2 for 1, 3/4 for 2 and 5/6 for 3 is easy enough to do
@@Mensch777It's easy but a d3 is easier, and I have made mistakes when tired after hours or playing
I am commented that i am excited to play *insert army here*
I’ve always like the idea of fire slayers.. the range is so boring though. They need some variety other than orange Mohawk guys with axes. Maybe some flame throwers guys. Or some flame cannon things. Or even a fire powered dreadnought walker thing. Just something
As a Slayer player the big 3 units that I see wanted are a smaller dog/horse sized magmadroths for fast attack or cav, Avatar of Grimnir which would be awesome, and then a shield maidens elite unit. Gonna hook myself back to the hopium for the meanwhile.
@@Falafelsz these sound awesome! :)
If a prayer is unlimited and a priest has 2 prayers....can't they just use the prayer twice to boost it up?
No, unlimited has to be different priests
@thehonestwargamerstreams thank you for clarifying. And thank you for all your videos, love watching them!!! Keep up the great job!!
Sounds like a good utility army. Buff saves and wards until you've closed the distance, then buff wounds and crits once in combat 👌
I’m one of the special cool people on UA-cam who know what a d3 is… 😎
Mmmm so glad I have two runemasters
Against this monster the Zombie Dragon looks like a kindergarden child...
Loving the Fyreslayers. 6+ ward army wide really helps with the squishy-ness the army has always had. Runes are better, and the Bois feel like the god-infused Dwarves they were always meant to be!
There's a pretty obvious mistake with the runemaster because the +1 to run can't really be used unless you went first and you're only getting it for +1 to redeploy. Which feels odd.
Also I'm not convinced +1 to run rolls counts for redeploy. It doesn't say run abilities, it says run rolls. They're not the same.
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I maintain that the 2+ on a D3 is the silliest of silly rules.
Why can't it just do D3 damage and be done with it?
I will die on this hill if I have to.
I think it's just to reduce rolls.
the droth is so much worse, historically he can out put silly damage
Latchkey doing 3 damage doesn't make sense.
Berserkers 3+/3+ makes n sense. Dwarves are stronger than stormcast? Hit as well as elves, wound as well as Orruk? Dwarves are the pinnacle species in the mortal realms? Feels like they threw their own metrics out the window for fyreslayers.
On top of the fact that they get more buffs so far that we've seen out of any army.
I'm a Dwarf apologist, and for starter, yes Dwarf are the best race thank for noticing, and second this are not normal dwarf, this are a warrior race of super roided up dwarf powered by the shards of a Berserker God, and the units they have focused in this article are the èlite of this society, the stronghest and the most skilled warriors of the lodges (in lore normal dwarf are stronger and more durable than human and elfs, but they are slower and worse at magic)
@@riccardopaglicci5028 ya maybe. Still seems like if the idea is that everything is supposed to be tuned down slightly, what we just saw from Fyreslayers doesn't say "toned down" to me. Seems like they're stronger than ever.
@@markpandelidis2079 you are right, but maybe the new and more lore friendly power they recived (some new ability are really really strong i admit it) is a compensation for the less resilient nature of the army, like now a shooting barrage is gonna kill a loat of them
@@riccardopaglicci5028 that's true, they're quite fragile to shooting. Still disagree that the latchkey should be damage 3. Just feels like they decided to not follow their own process. It would've been fine at damage 2 and just upped the attacks if you it to do more damage.
Kinda a shame that slayers are looking a bit squishy, hopefully they have some tankiness elsewhere. Still gonna be nice to have them and KO
I love the on fire naked dudes…. Wait no
I dislike that they’re extremely squishy now. Its great they’re high damage but being so slow is pretty lame.
I thought the fyreslayers were discontinued :O
Is it racist that both of the main dwarf factions are all in it for the gold? Also hyped for these lads to get squatted and turned into Chorfs 2.0. (I'm sticking to this)