Noticed that too. What’s funny is he’s still kind of right even though he used the wrong word. ESPN doesn’t want objectivity they are owned by Disney lol
It’s been a wacky year, for sure. I love the SEC, but it’s obvious that there’s much more parity across the conferences, and that’s a good thing. The only constant is change.
um...not even close. Honestly no team ranked higher than 6 has an argument for being left out. Two teams in the top 4 of the actual final rankings are still alive and the teams that were ranked 5/6 are still alive. (not seeding but rankings). This is proving that the playoff should not have expanded beyond 6 or 8 teams. 12 is way too many
If BYU have not dropped the game they had scheduled with Boise State? It would have settled who be seeded where, but we would never know. That was the biggest blunder that the Big 12 did by dropping that game for SOS purposes.
No they do not. If you want to guarantee a spot then don't lose 2 games. For others with 3 loses, to hear you complain is hollow. Forget just barely making it subjectively. Win your games and then you don't have to debate spot #12 and who deserves. This is getting silly.
You are right! It is the constant whining. The SEC has been the dominant conference. Even now, SEC is still the most dominant in self-promotion and the hypothetical game.
I can somewhat appreciate Finebaum sort of admitting the SEC is average this year. Of course, we all are waiting for Herbstreit to find a degree of professionalism and apologize for his takes which are as wrong as they are offensive.
The committee needs to have more structure (and transparency) into the selection criteria. There ought to be some guiding principles such as: 1 - before assessing teams, allocate the bids by league. 2 - the goal is to pick the 12 most deserving teams, not “best.” Being the best should only play into this as having an advantage toward becoming one of those deserving.
The problem is SOS uses pre season rankings AND ranked at time data to determine strength of schedule! Need to get any and all rankings out of the data and just use game results and game data. Not opinion data!
@ SOS is also really difficult to pin down even if you have agreed-upon data. For example, which poses greater difficulty: moderate competition week in and week out or a mix of tougher and easier opponents? There’s enough subjectivity in SOS metrics to allow the powers that be to apply double standards however things actually shake out. :( You really only get there by declaring intentions ahead of time and then sticking to it, which the committee actually did with SMU, so that’s encouraging. I’d just want them to expand on that.
Another great example. In the first round of the playoffs a horrible Clemson team was the only team that played a somewhat competitive game against Texas in Texas. In fact they were the only team that was somewhat competitive in that first round. This is the same Clemson team that LOST to Carolina.
i was one of those sec crybabies. the thing is 2 years ago we would have been right but there has been a massive change. the nil has drained much of the talent advantage the sec had and distributed it all over the country. my team - georgia - used to have a massive advantage not just in starters but in three sets of backups compared to the rest of the country. many of those big fast and talented backups have been thrown into the wind. kirby identifies the talent and recruits them and they leave for a larger paycheck as soon as they get tired of not playing.
@@MichaelBarbush bro, just say you’re a hater and move on Ohio State is the best team in the country right now. They also paid the most money for their players and their entire transfer portal came out of the SEC. Ohio State is SEC in the Big Ten.. it’s so sad because even the Big Ten wild winning is doing it with SEC players🤷🏾♂️
I don't even agree it was true a few years ago. Yes the SEC consistently has 2 or 3 of the top teams in the country. No, they are not the best conference top to bottom over that same period. Maybe 2 or 3 seasons they had 5 or 6 really good teams, but in most years half the conference is dogshit, like everyone else.
It would have been true most of the playoff years, if not all of them. But I think it was not the SEC, it was more Alabama and Georgia carrying the everyone else outside of 2019.
I “was”? That’s just a litany of excuses. Aggies spent the most on NIL until very recently. Because the new narrative that “NIL IS UNFAIR TO THE SEC” is the new excuse. There hasn’t been a drain on the talented advantage for the SEC. Look at Vandy. They aren’t any more talented than Bama or UGA but they used the portal to upgrade their team at QB and beat #1 Alabama.
Gotta love it. ESPN and Feinbaum must be going apoplectic. No traditional SEC team left in CFP playoff. Yes, Texas is in the SEC conference but is not really in hallowed SEC territory of LA, MISS, ALA, TENN or GA.
A close playoff game is like crack, so addictive. And then pair that with the habitually addicted (ESPN/ABC) and you hear irrational arguments of why they need their crack. Don't we all have someone in our families with this problem?
Hindsight is always 20/20 Finebumb. You're paid to know this stuff before it happens. So much for that. Now you've probably got your thumb stuck out looking for the next ESECPN coattail to ride on.
I've been said all the whining about the even seating has to stop nothing needs to change 18 need to win their games winning their conference does matter. In the Committees seating of Ohio State at number 8 was the issue. The real issue. Not 2 byes.
3:00 “ESPN talking heads that are suppose to be ‘subjective’” is funny because you used the wrong word but also because it’s kind of true. You were looking for Objective but they aren’t so you’re still right
michigan played a crap game too but they beat ohio st which everyone thinks is the best team. all of these teams are so up and down there's no consistency. the bama team from the ga or lsu game could have beat ohio st but the bama team from the oklahoma or michigan game couldn't have beat anyone. it's very weird this year.
The SEC is a very good league and we all know that. But certainly it's below par this particular year. Bama didn't deserve to be in the playoffs. They have a great roster, but a bad QB. But I'm not sure SMU deserved inclusion either. And Boise being a 3 seed is just comical. It's easy to come on here in hindsight and say this or that. The pundits give opinions and are often wrong. That's nothing new and doesn't mean ESPN has some conspiracy against the ACC. It just means in hindsight they were wrong, nothing more. Lastly, it has to matter who you play and who you beat, not just your record. The conferences and schedules are all too different to just put the teams with the best record in the playoffs. We don't need a committee if all you do is put in the best records. We need to use something similar to what Basketball does with the NPI ranking. That takes into account all the factors.
You people have no idea the toll it takes playing a SEC schedule compared to the big 10 with 18 teams and only 4 good ones. Boise conf had 6 teams with losing record, clemson lost to every sec team they played. Play em during the reg season. Don't get me started on smu, hell even Tennessee looked better than Oregon.😂
CFB Committee was a disaster but not about Alabama. Having Ohio State, Tennessee, and Oregon in a single bracket was ridiculous. Penn State should have been swapped with Ohio State and Boise State should have not been the #3, give that to Notre Dame. SMU should NOT have made it, BYU should HAVE.
@@tyeash7822 Penn State should NOT have been ranked ahead of Ohio State. You push Boise State to the back of the pact and Notre Dame to their spot, that pushes tOSU up to 7 and then swapped PSU and Ohio State. Problem is solved. Oregon's not playing either in that scenario.
@@volbound1700Penn state only beat SMU cuz kevin Jennings got paid to sell the game u need to open ur eyes players get paid to sell happens every game in nfl now in cfb in the big time games
Boise State stats in the game against Penn State was that they outgain PSU yardage wise and all that. Boise made some mistakes, and the game close until the end. It was really a competitive game. The kicker missed two field goals was the difference. If he made them? They would be much closer and fight harder to try and win. Boise deserved the seeding as three. They have been a well known quality bet than Arizona State, SMU and Indiana.
PF is one of the most biased voices in college football. The fact that he does it with a smile and a bow tie doesn’t mitigate the damage to other leagues and programs.
There are ebbs and flows to everything, time to laugh and a time to cry, a time to live and a time to die, erbody losing their mind like OH state, ND, Penn State ain’t never been good before…..for crying out loud they are blue blood programs. Did anyone think they were never gonna be national contenders again? That’s why we call it a SEASON. There will be another season. Bad season for SEC, good season for other teams.
“Objective” not “Subjective”
Objective - based on facts
subjective - based on opinion
Noticed that too. What’s funny is he’s still kind of right even though he used the wrong word. ESPN doesn’t want objectivity they are owned by Disney lol
When Bama loses, America wins
no you should have said when bama loses everyone else has a chance
I've always felt that about Fla or Miami
@@jamesosteen4280 maybe for FSU fans, but everyone other than Bama fans roots for them to lose every game.
GO BLUE!🎉
@@BackyardAquatics-o2mI mean four losses says otherwise. A quarter of there schedule had more than a chance.
2024-25 NCAA D-1 College football playoffs very successful in its first year. 🎉 SEC is in trouble during NIL era 😳
Miami fan here. Man, you’re great at this. Command of this sport 💯 hope this channel blows up a-la Pate
It’s been a wacky year, for sure. I love the SEC, but it’s obvious that there’s much more parity across the conferences, and that’s a good thing. The only constant is change.
without a doubt. it's been an entertaining year for sure! good luck today!
@@CFBAddiction Definitely didn’t go our way. Congratulations to Notre Dame! They deserve it.
As a Miami fan I’m disappointed we didn’t get in but I totally agree with you
BYU has the biggest argument about being left out.
No they don’t that was good Colorado if Miami would have beat all those team
um...not even close. Honestly no team ranked higher than 6 has an argument for being left out. Two teams in the top 4 of the actual final rankings are still alive and the teams that were ranked 5/6 are still alive. (not seeding but rankings). This is proving that the playoff should not have expanded beyond 6 or 8 teams. 12 is way too many
If BYU have not dropped the game they had scheduled with Boise State? It would have settled who be seeded where, but we would never know. That was the biggest blunder that the Big 12 did by dropping that game for SOS purposes.
No they do not. If you want to guarantee a spot then don't lose 2 games. For others with 3 loses, to hear you complain is hollow. Forget just barely making it subjectively. Win your games and then you don't have to debate spot #12 and who deserves. This is getting silly.
Win your games everything taken care of.
I love the way he very gently shades miami, and I’m a canes fan.
You are right! It is the constant whining. The SEC has been the dominant conference. Even now, SEC is still the most dominant in self-promotion and the hypothetical game.
I can somewhat appreciate Finebaum sort of admitting the SEC is average this year. Of course, we all are waiting for Herbstreit to find a degree of professionalism and apologize for his takes which are as wrong as they are offensive.
PF jumped ship on this year’s Alabama squad. Next season it will be like none of this ever happened.
Thank you for that information.....I'm thankful for knowledgeable people like you ....Bless Your Heart ❤️!
Pat Dye used to say "Hindsight is 50/50"... that is what is going on with everyone.....
I think Indiana could have ran with Texas at a neutral site. Heck, they both beat Michigan. Indiana's loss at ND was some big brother voodoo magic.
The committee needs to have more structure (and transparency) into the selection criteria. There ought to be some guiding principles such as:
1 - before assessing teams, allocate the bids by league.
2 - the goal is to pick the 12 most deserving teams, not “best.” Being the best should only play into this as having an advantage toward becoming one of those deserving.
The problem is SOS uses pre season rankings AND ranked at time data to determine strength of schedule! Need to get any and all rankings out of the data and just use game results and game data. Not opinion data!
@ SOS is also really difficult to pin down even if you have agreed-upon data. For example, which poses greater difficulty: moderate competition week in and week out or a mix of tougher and easier opponents? There’s enough subjectivity in SOS metrics to allow the powers that be to apply double standards however things actually shake out. :(
You really only get there by declaring intentions ahead of time and then sticking to it, which the committee actually did with SMU, so that’s encouraging. I’d just want them to expand on that.
considering how weak this year's postseason has been. Im convinced this was the year My Hurricanes should have won the 🏆
That thumbnail is wild. Is that really how Finebaum’s teeth look?😂
You nailed it!
Another great example. In the first round of the playoffs a horrible Clemson team was the only team that played a somewhat competitive game against Texas in Texas. In fact they were the only team that was somewhat competitive in that first round. This is the same Clemson team that LOST to Carolina.
And South Carolina then lost to Illinois..
Louisville will smash all these wannabes
i was one of those sec crybabies. the thing is 2 years ago we would have been right but there has been a massive change. the nil has drained much of the talent advantage the sec had and distributed it all over the country. my team - georgia - used to have a massive advantage not just in starters but in three sets of backups compared to the rest of the country. many of those big fast and talented backups have been thrown into the wind. kirby identifies the talent and recruits them and they leave for a larger paycheck as soon as they get tired of not playing.
Yes now everyone can pay players SEC was doing it all along
@@MichaelBarbush bro, just say you’re a hater and move on Ohio State is the best team in the country right now. They also paid the most money for their players and their entire transfer portal came out of the SEC. Ohio State is SEC in the Big Ten.. it’s so sad because even the Big Ten wild winning is doing it with SEC players🤷🏾♂️
I don't even agree it was true a few years ago. Yes the SEC consistently has 2 or 3 of the top teams in the country. No, they are not the best conference top to bottom over that same period. Maybe 2 or 3 seasons they had 5 or 6 really good teams, but in most years half the conference is dogshit, like everyone else.
It would have been true most of the playoff years, if not all of them. But I think it was not the SEC, it was more Alabama and Georgia carrying the everyone else outside of 2019.
I “was”?
That’s just a litany of excuses.
Aggies spent the most on NIL until very recently. Because the new narrative that “NIL IS UNFAIR TO THE SEC” is the new excuse.
There hasn’t been a drain on the talented advantage for the SEC.
Look at Vandy. They aren’t any more talented than Bama or UGA but they used the portal to upgrade their team at QB and beat #1 Alabama.
GO BLUE BLUE PAUL !
Oklahoma and Texas screwed up jumping to the SEC, the Big 12 is on a huge up swing
Gotta love it. ESPN and Feinbaum must be going apoplectic. No traditional SEC team left in CFP playoff. Yes, Texas is in the SEC conference but is not really in hallowed SEC territory of LA, MISS, ALA, TENN or GA.
yeah sure I believe that... NAWT!! ESPN will just do the exact same thing next year "well this is a different year" blah. I'm done with it
I think there are 6, maybe 7 teams with a chance, and it did not matter who the other 5 or 6 teams were
A close playoff game is like crack, so addictive. And then pair that with the habitually addicted (ESPN/ABC) and you hear irrational arguments of why they need their crack. Don't we all have someone in our families with this problem?
Hindsight is always 20/20 Finebumb. You're paid to know this stuff before it happens. So much for that. Now you've probably got your thumb stuck out looking for the next ESECPN coattail to ride on.
I've been said all the whining about the even seating has to stop nothing needs to change 18 need to win their games winning their conference does matter. In the Committees seating of Ohio State at number 8 was the issue. The real issue. Not 2 byes.
No credit for finemob for making a low key unintended fake whisper of admission . Should said it in Twitter or some similar platform
This started with the Duke, fsu game last year
"I’m a proud Florida college football fan and support all the teams in the state. I can’t wait to see multiple Florida teams in the top 25!"
Thumbnail crazy😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂 one of my favorites ever
TX got bailed out against a “weaker” ASU team, too.
3:00 “ESPN talking heads that are suppose to be ‘subjective’” is funny because you used the wrong word but also because it’s kind of true. You were looking for Objective but they aren’t so you’re still right
Imagine, you are 21 years old. You make 2.5 million a year playing college football. How motivated are you going to be?
Yea i am south carolina fan and i think we were put about where we should have been. Should have played better. Just got beat
There is no team outside the playoffs has an argument they would have done better than these teams...except BYU.
Look NiL know all teams can pay there players not just a few
Being a SEC/ESPN salesman is his job...not ground breaker news here...this story is about a pencil neck desk jockey🥱🙄🤭
How does ESPN pay Kirk Herbstreit’s LTI & STI bonuses? Does he make more cash with better TV Ratings, TV Revenue and Viewers per game/season?
Too many bad SEC teams in the playoff for Finebaum?
Miami would sweep these playoffs offense too elite even if defense gives up 40+
Sure man.
Who did they lose to again? Why would you embarrass yourself with this comment?
Duke QB quit on them Mississippi should win by at least 20 only team I think has a case is BYU
BAMA lost to the B1G TEN's 7th place team.
Lunacy gets clicks/views, and that's what it's really all about, right?
michigan played a crap game too but they beat ohio st which everyone thinks is the best team. all of these teams are so up and down there's no consistency. the bama team from the ga or lsu game could have beat ohio st but the bama team from the oklahoma or michigan game couldn't have beat anyone. it's very weird this year.
now you are saying these things ,after all is said and done
I said it before the selections were made: ua-cam.com/video/jZbx5abaiLQ/v-deo.html
The SEC is a very good league and we all know that. But certainly it's below par this particular year. Bama didn't deserve to be in the playoffs. They have a great roster, but a bad QB. But I'm not sure SMU deserved inclusion either. And Boise being a 3 seed is just comical. It's easy to come on here in hindsight and say this or that. The pundits give opinions and are often wrong. That's nothing new and doesn't mean ESPN has some conspiracy against the ACC. It just means in hindsight they were wrong, nothing more. Lastly, it has to matter who you play and who you beat, not just your record. The conferences and schedules are all too different to just put the teams with the best record in the playoffs. We don't need a committee if all you do is put in the best records. We need to use something similar to what Basketball does with the NPI ranking. That takes into account all the factors.
You people have no idea the toll it takes playing a SEC schedule compared to the big 10 with 18 teams and only 4 good ones. Boise conf had 6 teams with losing record, clemson lost to every sec team they played. Play em during the reg season. Don't get me started on smu, hell even Tennessee looked better than Oregon.😂
@@GT3RS69 Well I'm a lifelong Bama fan, so I think I actually do have "some idea" about the SEC schedule.
He quits until next season. Lmao
CFB Committee was a disaster but not about Alabama. Having Ohio State, Tennessee, and Oregon in a single bracket was ridiculous. Penn State should have been swapped with Ohio State and Boise State should have not been the #3, give that to Notre Dame. SMU should NOT have made it, BYU should HAVE.
You have to separate the winner and loser of the big ten championship game just like the sec.
@@tyeash7822 Penn State should NOT have been ranked ahead of Ohio State. You push Boise State to the back of the pact and Notre Dame to their spot, that pushes tOSU up to 7 and then swapped PSU and Ohio State. Problem is solved. Oregon's not playing either in that scenario.
@@volbound1700Penn state only beat SMU cuz kevin Jennings got paid to sell the game u need to open ur eyes players get paid to sell happens every game in nfl now in cfb in the big time games
Boise State stats in the game against Penn State was that they outgain PSU yardage wise and all that. Boise made some mistakes, and the game close until the end. It was really a competitive game. The kicker missed two field goals was the difference. If he made them? They would be much closer and fight harder to try and win. Boise deserved the seeding as three. They have been a well known quality bet than Arizona State, SMU and Indiana.
All top seeds were conference champs. That is as it should be. ND didn't win a conference so no top seed.
Fact is Paul is just all good for College football...SMART, INCISIVE, HIGH INTEGRITY AND TONS OF HUMOR AND PERSONALITY....GREAT TALENT!
Lol. Thanks for the laugh.
I don’t like him and I disagree with almost everything he says, but football needs that guy
@@ghert3850Correction, the SEC needs him as their biggest cheerleader.
PF is one of the most biased voices in college football. The fact that he does it with a smile and a bow tie doesn’t mitigate the damage to other leagues and programs.
He is a heel. A wrestling villain. That is PF's job.
There are ebbs and flows to everything, time to laugh and a time to cry, a time to live and a time to die, erbody losing their mind like OH state, ND, Penn State ain’t never been good before…..for crying out loud they are blue blood programs. Did anyone think they were never gonna be national contenders again? That’s why we call it a SEASON. There will be another season. Bad season for SEC, good season for other teams.
Do you consider Vanderbilt, Ark, Carolina Missour and all the other crappy schoolsi the best. Georgia only recently. Florida sucks.
i guess you, the smartest guy in the room ,has all the answers.not
please stop crying lol