Corelli doesn´t make faces, does not show any effort or pain. He does not advertise that he is doing something "very difficult". He sings. Amazing musicality. The emotion is in the song and in the voice. An artist that knows what he is doing and serves music, not the other way around.
This man was a Giant! Even as a soprano, I watch and learn from Corelli. He mastered his technique and gave us many, tremendously exciting years of his Voice. Ty for sharing!
Corelli was not called "The Prince of Tenors" for nothing, what passion, vocal control and o my God those top notes and if that is not enough movie star good looks too, does not get better than this.
Lo maravilloso de Corelli y Pavarotti es que parecen estar hablando, cantan naturalmente, sin esfuerzo ni muecas. Sabemos que son horas de riguroso estudio y esfuerzo. Pero el timbre y la versatilidad de la voz de Corelli, además de su tremendo atractivo físico lo hacen IN-SU-PE-RA-BLE.
Corelli, creo uno de los tenores con más presencia de la historia, pero a la vez de una voz extraordinaria por su extensión. Una interpretación, técnicamente superior. Si estuviere con los tres restantes, su voz resaltaría sin lugar a dudas. Un timbre parejo, voz dosificada, con fraseo, emisión agudos claros potentes no gritados, sin recurrir a facilismo de la expresión sensacionalista, ridícula en unos casos y hasta fuera de gusto en otras que no va con el sentido con el texto sino para causar sensacionalismo, protagonismo; creerán que la mayoría del público no se interesaran por el texto. Villazón lo que conmueve no es lo que canta, a mi me escarapela el cuerpo que pueda quedarse sin voz por exagerar y así pasó después con las operaciones por los nódulos que se le formaban en sus cuerdas vocales, bueno ahora es más sobrio pero no puede cantar mucho. Los demás cantantes Kauffman y Beczala no son actores, ese dramatismo para la ópera que les ayude la dirección escénica. Aquí son solo conciertos, deben hacerlo con sobriedad, más es el instrumento lo que debe destacar, sus voces. Cada uno de ellos parecen que fueran dos por lo diferenciado de sus tonalidades. Ahora que son tenores talentosos, por supuesto tienen muy buenas voces, son entregados y son destacados, por supuesto sólo que están tan lejos de Franco Corelli, en la gloria, como de las estrellas.
Los maestros clásicos son insuperables; pero es una pena que haya tantos aprendices, que se hacen llamar tenores, y pretensiosamente figuran entre los grandes de este tiempo, cuando realmente solo se les podría considerar no Muy buenos estudiantes, y engañan al publico que no conoce los básicos del Bell Canto. Molesta mucho toda esa parodia que hacen, hacen ver todo dificil y no tiene nada de Bello, ni de Bell Canto y todo lo hacen un gran drama, que hasta causa temor, y parece que van a colapsar o quieren hacer colapsar a los que escuchan, para que los consideren majestuosos o espectaculares. No tienen la técnica, sino que se ve feamente que la Técnica los trae del cuello. Fuera del Argumento de la obra, pregunto ¿Eso es Bell Canto, todo esa esa fea ejecución sin ninguna naturalidad, que por el contrario, parece que se esfuerzan en hacerlo más dificil y todo más parece una tragedia, que solo ellos pueden realizar? la verdad, muy mal. Seguro deben tener sus méritos de estudio y práctica, pero como público, debo decir que no suman, sino restan al hermos arte del Canto y sobre todo el Lírico.
There is a very basic difference between Corelli versus others. Corelli has a true Italian sound. Also he has a clear ringing voice in the Volpi approach.
@@yuenkoi he sings with a technique, an incorrect one, called la voce ingolata basically meaning throaty voice. Doing this artificially darkens the sound and creates an unfocused tone that has no ring to it. The effect is that the sound that comes out is woofy and dampened. Many singers today sound like this unfortunately.
What I really love about the old school method: not only does it sound bigger; it also sounds more naturally spoken. You would think those 2 things are oposites, but they're not.
Very true. Di Stefano always wanted his audience to forget that he was singing, vs just speaking. Verdi and Wagner both wanted the same from their singers.
its the older recording techniques, which emphasize the highs and middle.. you can't compare recordings with 30+ years in between them in a serious manner.. having said that i love Corelli more than any other tenor today..
They didn’t manufacture their timbres back then. Kaufmann and Villazón artificially darken their tones, and somehow Beczała graduated being allowed to sing with a throaty tone. Also, the conductor in the Kaufmann examples is over the top: it’s distracting and likely doesn’t communicate anything to the orchestra.
Well, no. The sound isn't necessarily bigger, the Corelli videos are way louder. And that's a cheap trick by the channel. Because louder videos/voices are often quickly received as better. Not saying that Corelli is bad. But the videos are way too different for as face to face comparison without adjustment
@@dowal199 No, the sound is very similar. In the old sound you are losing mid range and bass sounds, the old sound only accentuate the high treble. The modern sound just has a more wider horizontal range and disperses the sound more evenly, there are far more mid range and bass in the modern sound, which makes it sound lower, but it is actually very equal. You are losing Corelli's lower and deeper sound in this recording, if you heard the studio version his voice will sound far deeper. Corelli had a much bigger and louder voice then any of these others, he had one of the biggest tenor voices, and he was better on high notes then these three as well, despite the big voice. He barely had to open his mouth and there were columns of volume and sound. Kaufmann barely sings without a microphone in front of him, for the last few years. Their problem is that they don't have any squillo, it is squillo that makes an opera singer's voice really loud and big, especially if you are performing spinto and dramatic repertoire, you can get away without squillo in the more lyrical roles. Corelli and Del Monaco had incredible amounts of metal and squillo in their voices. That being said Beczala is okay in lyrical roles. Kaufmann could have been fine if had squillo and he stopped artificially darkening his voice, Villazon was fine as a lyric tenor at one stage. These three are not the worst, Corelli just had an extremely exceptional voice, that you are not going to find very often.
El Gran Tenor Lirico Spinto Franco Corelli uno de los grandes tenores del Siglo XX. Una gran voz dificil hoy en dia de encontrar algun sustituto y creo que por varios años
No lo hay ni lo habrá, porque la opera cambió, la opera antigua sin microfono creaba cantantes potentes y con largos fraseos, hoy en dia la potencia se sustituyó por los parlantes, y el stablishment de la lírica no permite que no canten quienes no se adaptaron a la nueva opera, por eso los cantantes nuevos admiran a los old, pero saben que si se convierten en alumnos del viejo estilo jamás conseguiran papeles importantes en los grandes teatros.
So what happened? The vocal coaches gave up (one way or the other?)? Training was deemed too much? Or is it something we are eating, or breathing? Where did the beautiful voices go?
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏....BEN DETTO... ❤❤❤CORELLI NON HA PARI❤❤❤...MI DISPIACE PER TUTTI GLI ALTRI...CHE MI SCUSO PER IL PARAGONE,MA MI SEMBRANO DELLE PENTOLE ATTACCATE AD UN CARRO IN MOVIMENTO...😂😂😂😂🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️
Questi in confronto a Corelli sono coristi. Vadano a buttarsi nel fiume piu' vicino a casa loro.... MA IN FRETTA.. DAI DAI DAI PIU' VELOCIIIII WOOOOOMMM 😂😂😂😂😂
Only if you are judging by this video. Corelli was great, but Beczala (who?), Villazon and the budget heldentenor Kaufmann are hardly appropriate comparisons. Look for "Mamma! Il vino e generoso" with di Stefano, Gigli, Bjorling - others, lots of others. Corelli tended to scoop to his high notes - he hit them, but it took a while. This isn't a musical judgement, but I think Corelli sounds like a thug - the kind of guy you wouldn't want to meet in a dark alley. Probably just me.
Корелли не старается петь драматическим голосом, не подчёркивает эмоции "драматической" мимикой - он вкладывает драматизм в своё пение, его голос не нуждается в "заглублении", "расширении", прочих ухищрениях, к которым вынуждены прибегать его оппоненты, но, будем справедливы - таких артистов всегда было не много. Беда в том, что певцы, достойные, максимум, второго, а то и третьего состава во времена Корелли и Дель Монако, сейчас числятся в лучших - и по праву! Другие-то ещё слабее! А во времена великих каким был второй состав? - Пиччи, Раймонди, Лимарилли, Поджи! - Любой из них "сдул" бы со сцены нынешних премьеров! - Вот, что всего хуже.
There’s a Russian channel, Chiaroscuro, it shows that not only the great tenors of the past were much better than our contemporaries, but even the average tenors of 50-60’s are hugely superior.
Non si possono fare confronti! Corelli era dotato di un carisma particolare. Ho avuto il privilegio di vederlo dal vivo e non lo posso dimenticare! Tinin
@@DiomedesDioscuro Si devono fare perché la lirica é da salvare!Leggetevi l'intervista di ieri al proposito ,rilasciata dal maestro Muti...leggetela davvero!
What bollocks. Music is subjective. Your personal opinion is not an irrefutable truth. Furthermore, there are many genres of music, and you may not care for them or about them, but that doesn't mean they're not valid, so calling anyone the voice of the century is utter bullshit. Anyone who tries to prove that their favourite singer is the best is just trying to convince others of it, and they then get all flustered and angry when others disagree. How childish. Music should be enjoyed for what it is. Why turn it into a contest? There are no winners in what is a subjective art form, as is any that affects human emotions. Just enjoy the music without trying to prove the unprovable, for Christ's sake.
The category was comparing Corelli with few other operatic tenors. Corelli was a spinto tenor with huge voice and equally skillful in soft pianissimo. Lanza also had a powerful voice but his operatic career was interrupted by making Hollywood movies. He was known as tenor and Hollywood film star.
@@joeblack8915 I guess you are the one who gets angry when people discuss their favorite singers that you do not agree. In fact you probably like any voice in all genre including rap singers. The person who put this up is comparing Corelli with some mediocre tenors. So get angry with him. Many critics have said more than any others, Corelli was the voice of the century. So get angry with those critics as well. As a bel canto trained classical tenor myself, I happen to agree with them wholeheartedly.
@@joeblack8915 music is not subjective. There are plenty of objective parameters that can be discussed, you can even mesure them. Singing technique is one of them.
Franco Corelli must have been a very hard-working and demanding artist...but essentially he was a "natural". No superfluous tension in the jaw, amazing connection, astounding fiatto, a "messa da voce" unmatched. The ability to communicate emotion,pain and effort without straining his voice. Drama without affectation.
As was Beniamino Gigi who probably was the greatest of the "naturals." Caruso however, in my opinion was the greatest tenor ever and probably will never be equaled. That can also be said of Maria Callas who "was" the part she sang in every role.
I was privileged to attend several of Corelli’s master classes in NYC in the 90’s. I can’t sing a note but just to watch him coaching vocal students was memorable.
Of course, Corelli is one of the best tenors of the 20th century, but the comparation ist nevertheless stupid: The recording technics is not comparable, and the voice of Corelli is made artificially louder. Kaufmann f. ex. is not so metallic in his colour, but much more nuanced in his interpretation. He is neider better nor worse than Corelli. Baczala, ok, this is an operette singer.
@@danielungermann7055 ...Indeed, one of the reasons modern tenors like Kaufmann look a little more strained and intense in their faces is that now they think a lot more about the expression in terms of the character and role they're playing out in the aria...Whereas if you watch singers like Monaco, you can see all their thinking about is whether they can put extra high note or two in the next few bars!
Mr. Ungerman you have no idea. Corelli was one of the loudest, the modern ones heran are no voices compared to him. I did sing with two of them, believe me, they have absolutely mediocre, not really developed voices. Woofy, ingolato, squeezed and constricted sounds and throats. Corelli s throat is completely open and free. Who cares about nuances if not one sound out of their mouth is good??? Who has ears, listen! The others should be quiet and learn.
The mediocare is the one that has no idea of what a professional singer is. We know that Franco Corelli was an incredible gifted tenor but that does not mean that Villazón or the other respectable tenors are medicre, they are professionals that deserve all our respect. Is something like saying that all football players that can not do what Pelé did are medicare when they are very good professional players. Is something like saying that Fritz Wündelich or Jussi Bjoerlig were also mediocre and obviusly they were not.
@@shayanmardanbeigi2697 It is a paradigm to think that everything of the past was better, is like saying that Corelli was inferior compared to Caruso, Fleta or Gigli. I invite you to listen to Javier Camarena singing La figlia del reggimento and you'll realize that he is as good as the tenors of the past.
@@luisantoniodejesusgarciasa2141 I think modern tenors are talented but the problem is their technique. Most of them sing with the mask. I absolutely believe that their technique doesn't let them project their voices better. One of those with a bad technique is Juan Diego Florez. I recognize that, even I am peruvian as him.
on the contrary... no one is saying that every one should be Corelli. The Technique! Fritz Wunderlich, Bergonzi, and Björling were briliant as well. So many others. I mentioned it in another post.... A car with a flat tire, is a car with a flat tire, no matter what it's make, the year it was made and the old or new technology it was made with.
@@davidgould9431 you sound dumb af. He’s talking about his technique. It makes it look like his singing is easy as hell. Which is far more difficult than people think.
Los muchachos que titularon este video fueron excesivamente generosos en calificar a estos dos de "mediocre tenors". Los "monos aulladores" hubiera sido más preciso.
I have to contradict: Franco Corelli was not 'divino', but he was 'un Dio' among the tenors. Devo contraddire: Franco Corelli non era 'divino', era 'Dio' tra i tenori.
All'inizio ho pensato che "destroying" nel titolo fosse un po' esagerato, ma dall'Andante con moto (min. 2:50) in poi ha trovato un suo senso: che differenza! Kaufmann & co cantano la frase in maniera talmente snaturata da togliere la drammaticità a una pagina di musica che invece ne è piena. Tutti e tre calcano a sproposito le vocali, ingrossando la voce forse per aggiungere una componente struggente, ma ciò che ottengono di sicuro non è dramma, in quanto il discorso musicale diventa poco scorrevole e perde la sua direzione. I loro acuti su "s'io non tornassi" sembrano forzati in un qualcosa simile a un grido, e arrivano talmente all'improvviso da sembrare fuori contesto. Al contrario, la voce e l'interpretazione di Corelli assumono con una naturalezza incredibile le sembianze di Turiddu che già è consapevole di avere un coltello conficcato nel petto. Corelli canta come parlerebbe un figlio a sua madre, con la consapevolezza che sta andando a morire ma non vuole farla preoccupare. Nel finale, su "s'io non tornassi", l'acuto è talmente consequenziale alla frase musicale che sembra raggiungibile da chiunque, talmente è cantato con semplicita: morbido ma intenso, triste ma deciso. Per concludere: tutti e quattro hanno eseguito un'aria di Cavalleria, ma uno solo ha cantato nei panni di Turiddu
There is no question Corelli is the prince of tenors but what is to be gained by denigrating singers of today? Shall we just shut down opera today and retreat to our dark bedrooms and just listen to lps from the 50s?? It all seems counter productive to me. To trash new singers because they are not Del Monoco or Corelli or Callas or Tebaldi is just short sighted. There is no question we have these super stars from the past that stirred our souls but please do not say such awful things about the singers of today. I wouldn't want to sing with such rancor abounding.
I agree with you. In this videos, Kaufmann does a good job though. Turiddu, being not such a heavy role, suits his voice quite well. I am not a big fan of his technique but I like him here.
In his prime, Corelli was criticized for a lack of finesse. He had a very powerful voice, but he relied on this power a little too much, at the expense of refinement and emotional content, according to the common wisdom of the time. So these comparisons are not really valuable. It takes time to evaluate a singer. Callas, for instance, who was known for her dramatic skills, never sang with Corelli, but with Di Stephano and Berganzi, who could compete with her dramatic style.
@@theosalvucci8683 I agree 100% with you. Also Corelli was critized for a caprino sound that was not appreciated at that time. Corelli was know in those years to sing for the 'cheap seats' sustaining high notes for long periods and doing everything in his capacities to make them happy. However, Callas and Corelli sang many roles together (Fedora, Trovatore, Tosca, Poliuto plus the commercial recordings)
Claro que no todos son buenos. Hay cantantes líricos con gran fama pero que son una blasfemia para la opera, por ejemplo. Kaufman, Netrebko. Gagaranca. El trio de engomados.
@@EmilioSanchez-jq9eb Alagna en sus comienzos era un buen tenor, yo lo escuché al comienzo de su carrera varias veces y era de lo mejorcito de su generación, pero después de poco años lo volví a escuchar y ya su voz era un desastre.
Corelli has a big voice, BELTING OUT all the time, and NOT in "tempo" here, and in some other places... Villazon has the most beauty in his voice... An old tenor ,teacher of mine, learned in Italy and said that "the rumor" was that Corelli had a studio at home, doing high notes to use on recordings... TUNING UP THE HIGH NOTES..... If you listen to him and Fiorenza Cossotto life in Aida 4rth act, SHE sounds bigger and better singer... (He start a bit nasal...) Cossotto is GREAT, Corelli good, but not as she is.....
@@labienus9968 Cossotto and Corelli on stage in Aida. SHE IS THE BIGGER VOICE. He is to CLOSE to microphones in this comparison. A bit NASAL also. He run after and hit a man that booed him in Il trovatore. (He could not sing for half an hour after that, THIS STORY IS FAMOUS... ) Lanza was also a bit crazy and dangerous, IF people did not like him...
Cossotto had a big voice so what?Yes, there are a few legendary stories about Corelli in the 50s-what does that have to do with your original comment? I heard Corelli live more than 40x-it was a very big voice, yet full of shading and color,never just about high notes-oh, heard numerous live high Cs and even dflat.MDM second half of his career was down to 2-3 roles-could only sing forte. Lanza wasn't an opera singer-who cares?
Il primo rischia un colpo apoplettico, il secondo si strangola con un ranocchio , il terzo bzzzz bzzzzz bzzz. Corelli naturale, fresco, elegante,strepitoso.
Corelli war ein ausgezeichneter Spinto-Tenor, der aber sicher keine Wagner-Rolle hätte singen können, wie z.B. JK, der von Lehar bis Wagner alles kann und nicht theatralisch ist. Es hat eben keinen Sinn, tote oder inaktive Sänger mit den jetzigen zu vergleichen.
Franco Corelli è stato davvero il più grande, ineguagliabile e mai troppo rimpianto.. Da questo video, comunque, traspare la voce di Rolando Villazon, che è constatabile anche visionando altri suoi filmati, nella sua eccellente espressione e nel suo timbro potente e sicuro. 🎻🎻🎻
Corelli? un Tenor Spinto , Esa es la Gran Diferencia , con los tenores , Kaufmann? Tenor Lirico? Villazon Tenor Lirico, y Geczala, Tenor ligero, y pues Franco Corelli un Gran Tenor Spinto, muy pocos Tenores Spintos? yo creo que si, Segun mi maestra Lucy Gomez de Mac, Chesney, YO? Tenor Spinto, pero? pues , me dedique a mi profecion de Anestesiologo, Ahora Jubilado? haber si me abinturo al bell canto de nuevo, ya que tengo un amigo profecional, Rafael Rojas tenor Lirico, en Hungria. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Desgraciadamente, mi amigo Rafael Rojas Gonzales, Un Tenor Lirico, que se encontrava en Hungria, Fallecio el 18 de Enero de este 2022, y yo que lo mencione hace como un anio, y pues si, ya no esta con nosotros, que en PAZ descanse, y se encuentre en el CIELO
Tenors today perform heavy roles too early, and it seems that they do not have enough time to rest. Careers like tenors in the past had are not possible in our times.
@@evandrosantana3670 careras cracked even on lyric. He was like unstable wood on che gelida at 1973. So awful. Too much attention on freaks. Tenors can cracked even on lyric, thats horrible
@@Monnarchmonnarchy when you think of Villazon, for example, you see the problem: Don Carlo, Werther, etc. Today you don't see him very often in opera roles (he is almost restricted to recitals).
@@evandrosantana3670 vilazon poor guy. Cracked tenor. Throaty. But he sang not good at young i guess. Only young Alagna from modern stars got a good technique, not perfect, but more operatic. Much more pitty story
@@lazatarra I have, and I like different ones different amounts - but of course they didn't need mics. Perhaps you've heard them in an outdoor park setting where the sound always dicey...
You do know you're hearing them all, including Corelli, through a microphone, right? Compare the orchestra sounds of all these examples and you'll realize the biggest difference is in the recording technologies. 😏
@@hectorrobertocontrerasmiranda I reiterate. It is one thing to capture the sound in an acoustic auditorium and another is the amplification of the room. As far as it is known, Franco Corelli did not act with his voice electronically amplified, which is common today, and not only since The Three Tenors, who turn the art of operatic singing into a simulacrum.
Corelli era espectacular, pero me parece desacertado tratar de mediocres a los otros tenores . Primero Corelli siempre cantó obra italiana -lengua de sangre idioma de origen )- por supuesto que pudo lograr excelentes interpretaciones. Los tenores que pretenden comparar hablan otro idioma por origen . (español -alemán-ruso) , esto genera alguna diferencia. pero no son mediocres. Cada intérprete es un individuo .
I always hate to compare tenors because Corelli always was and I assume always will be my favorite. I like many tenors but none as much as Corelli including del Monaco, Pavarotti, Tucker (my least favorite of those 4). He certainly looked extremely relaxed in these snippets. His sound was, as always absolutely stunning. Clearly he was gifted with an absolutely spectacular instrument and made the most of it. He had a squillo that very few singers have. Pavarotti had it on his highest notes but not so much in the mid-range/passagio where Corelli had it in spades around F to Ab. In person, he made it look truly effortless. He could sing lying down just as well as standing. I never liked Kaufman because to my ear his throat sounds closed off and almost muffled at times. He is quite a good musician though. Villazon sounds good but is hard to watch with all his facial/oral contortions. I found Beczala to be technically adept but uninspiring. None of the 3 seem to have any real squillo in the upper register however which to me really separates the truly inspiring from those that are not (my personal opinion only of course). It is certainly true that singing at the level of these 4 men is extremely difficult. Almost no one can do it at all. One has to admire them for what they have accomplished. Singing for years at this level is truly a massive challenge.
@@oldmacmillan di Stefano was a lyric tenor and ruined his voice trying to sing heavier rep. To my ears, he sounded like a pig when he sang roles too heavy for him. Carreras, Alagna, and Araiza follwed in his (Di Stefano's) footsteps sadly. Lovely lyric voices that pushed and forced and trashed their voices.
DIVINO CORELLI!!!!!!!Grazie a old school singers:spero che serva a far capire al pubblico di bocca buona che frequenta i teatri oggi, la differenza tra un vero tenore e i disperati ,osannati di questi tempi...Sigh!!!
Corelli was unique in his continual work to improve his voice and his mastery of emotional delivery across his entire career. He also had a true Italian dramatic voice. In these excerpts, the only one who comes close to Corelli is Kaufmann who also is a true dramatic tenor but of the German rather than Italian school. All of the others are attempting to provide "dramatic tenor" deliveries with non-dramatic voices. Listen, for example, to Alfredo Kraus singing this music. He makes no attempt to push his voice beyond the pure lyric tenor that he was and yet makes a superb dramatic delivery by so doing. He also never tried the true dramatic repertoire [e.g., Otello or Tristan] but by avoiding those he gave us 40 years of absolutely superb tenor performances.
Corelli had such a powerful voice he could sing this role and many others effortlessly... that gave him the chance to put his dramatic color without distorting speech nor tone, i.e. no need to yell or scream.
Yes, it seems so effortless when Corelli sings. When you look at the faces of Villazon, Kaufmann (and others of today) singing the same arias as Corelli (example: Turridu Mama) their faces are deformed, tortured and frightening to us who see them and Corelli's face is normal, and still with lots of passion and feelings. No comparison.
@@judithbereczky4114 They sre pushing their voices. None of them have any business singing roles like Turiddu. They simply do not have the goods for it. Corelli sings it without all these contortions because he had the vocal resources to do it. If you want to see something truly horrific, I suggest you watch Villazon obliterate the song "L' alba separa della luce l'ombra " by Tosti, from about 2011. It's like some kind of demonic possession going on when he "sings" it.
Kaufman is so average as a tenor. I truly can't understand what strings were pulled for him to get the gigs he did. He's good don't get me wrong better than any random shmo off the street but in the opera world he's average.
And here we have the oh-most-musically-sensitive argument of all time: who was louder, Corelli or del Monaco? Because that's what it comes down to. I've read far too many YT posts about it and that's what they all boil down to.
Can´t compare. Corelli belongs to a SPECIES which are completely extinguished and dead in our days. There´s only ONE Franco Corelli and there will always be one. The other ones do what they can, that´s all.
Corelli aveva un organo a canne nel petto, una delle voci più belle e potenti di tutti k tempi, sorretto da una tecnica vocale di altissimo livello imparata da Lauri Volpi. Lo stesso Pavarotti ne aveva una ammirazione sconfinata. Se fosse in quest’epoca sarebbe un divo idolatrato a livello planetario.
He absolutely blows them away here. Kaufman sounds like a baritone singing tenor. He has the notes, but not the ring and brilliance. Bezcala sounds pathetic compared to Corelli. IMO only Villazon comes anywhere close, and he looks like he is oversinging and working way too hard. With Corelli, it looks and sounds easy and natural.
I wouldn't call the other tenors "mediocre." Corelli's voice was in a class of its own and very unique. I understand he was always very nervous before he went out to perform. It was also a huge tenor voice with such a focused, brilliant tone. So thrilling to hear. I had the honor to hear him sing in Turandot one time; amazing when he sang his high Bb not facing the audience and it could be heard very clearly. When he turned around it even got louder!
Not about louder sound but a sound that carries through the theater. Actually, mediocre is a nice thing to say about the other tenors since they don't really know how to sing. Very few know how to these days. Unfortunately. True singing is almost a lost art.
Corelli was nervous to sing, because he had a stutter when speaking. But speaking and singing use different parts of the brain, and we didn’t know that back then. He was worried to stutter onstage.
@@toscadonna Dear Toscadonna, I've heard Corelli speak on many interviews both in Italian and English. I never heard him stutter in Italian. Corelli suffered from terrible stage fright which plagued him throughout his career. Even people who stutter when they speak, do not stutter while singing.
Tiene un criterio delincuencial quien titula así este video. El arte no es una competencia y menos una actividad destructora. Habrá mas o menos adeptos, conocedores o simplemente espectadores. En cualquier actividad humana se hacen clasificaciones. Yo he admirado a Franco Corelli desde 1.960 o desde antes, he sabido de su vida y jamás se le describe como un destructor, como un artista envidioso, al contrario vemos en él a una persona agradecida con su profesión y amable con sus colegas. Quienes le dediquen un corto tiempo a conocer la historia de su vida y por ejemplo su amistad con otro gigante, Ettore Bastianinni , olvidarán el titulo de este video y entenderán que quien así lo nombró es un idiota resentido muy ignorante. Alguien que no disfruta la esencia del arte, de la música, un pobre niño inmaduro. Un niño peliétas
No han cambiado los gustos sencillamente hoy elevan a lo mas alto a aquellos que por una razón u otra manejan el mundo de la ópera, dejando al margen voces mejores que las que elevan con un marketing brutal.
Corelli era espectacular, pero no pueden tratar de mediocres a los demás tenores... tener en cuenta la nacionalidad , el contexto y son estos tiempos. No nos han ido cambiando el gusto , el canto también tiene cambios porque vienen otros intérpretes. otras tecnologías... y mucha competencia. No me parece acertado comparar son individuos.
@@mariagracielacowan1587 Corelli no era espectacular, fue y es único. Es verdad que son técnicas distintas y personas distintas, pero dígame: ¿Qué sería de la ópera sin la comparación? Se compara versiones según directores y según el elenco artístico de la misma. Sin la comparación, la ópera habría muerto. Yo no digo ni hablo de mediocres, pero sí que le digo que uno de ellos no canta, berrea. A ver si adivina quién. Un saludo y a seguir disfrutando.
@@cosme9899 de acuerdo, comparar es una posición distinta a tratar de mediocres a otros tenores como dice el título del vídeo. No son intérpretes mediocres ,son distintos ,con sus peculiaridades vocales y su origen ... Cosme escuchar a Corelli en el aria de Calaf (NESSUM DORMA) -Turandot de Puccini- Es absolutamente emocionante a pesar de las imperfecciones de las grabaciones. Saludos y a disfrutar . Amo a Corelli .
The difference is so big that the comparision seems unfair. Kaufmann in particular just irritates me with that voce ingolata, so artifitial singing. Corelli forever.
I feel the same about Kaufmann. And this is not about Corelli. You could replace him in this video with any number of non-modern tenors and it would still be obvious. So I don't think the comparison is so unfair. It's not about being gifted, but about the way they sing. Look at Kaufmann when he opens his mouth. All you see is tongue. How can the sound he produces not be muffled?
@@tobiasandrews3778 It was never really beautiful, but it is already much worse than 10 years earlier. He literally has nothing left. His heft is gone too.
I wish companies would stop hiring singers with horrible technique. The modern tenors always sound like they're trying to lift a 1000 lbs. weight over their heads...and fishy-round-tunnel mouths and pushing are not going to make things better or easier.
There must be a special place in Hell for modern singing teachers and all they’ve done to destroy voices. It’s unbearable to listen to these thin, anemic tenors. I’ll stick with my recordings of Corelli.
Es indiscutible que Corelli tenia una técnica y una potencia innata, por eso le costaba menos, que al resto de los tenores. Su Impostacion era impecable, lastima no encontrar, 'Los pescadores de perlas'. Bizet , cantada por él.
Corelli is great but I, just an opera novice, enjoys listing to Gigli, Del Monaco, Bergonzi, Di Stefano, Bjorling, Tagliviani, Shipa, Lanza - great singers are so vast, with Corelli one the them, I just have to concentrate & buy recordings & listen to these great singers of my choice. Cheers!
sono bravi tutti e tre ma Franco Corelli sta lassu' nell'Olimpo non c'e paragone lui e' stato benedetto dal dio del canto e dalla dea Venere tanto era la sua bellezza il suo fascino ,era e sara sempre unico immenso
@@sergiotelechemhhtt5a31 Hai ragione su tutti i fronti, è un sacrilegio farlo gareggiare con quei tre che sono stonati, ingolati, e cantano a gola stretta...che sofferenza!
La voz de Franco Corelli, puesta en igualdad de condiciones con otros tres tenores de más reciente figuración, pone de relieve la inmensa superioridad e impetuosidad de su registro, sin duda alguna uno de los tenores más impetuosos y diestros en el correcto manejo de sus agudos, lo mismo que de un impresionante dominio de su respiración y de su emisión.
Villazon's sound was not that bad, but he obviously had to overextended himself by far. He is a lyric tenor that has to force his voice to sing heavy repertoire. It is not surprise that he has a lot of vocal problems these days.
A caveat: these are stunning performances BY ALL! Franco is simply THE MOST STUNNING! These are not mediocre artists by any stretch! Franco simply rocks harder! Just my opinion...
PR + sound engineering can do literal miracles for the presentation and even career longevity of voices of mediocre quality; but at the end of the day, as one incontrovertibly hears in the stark disparity between Corelli and countless other tenors, the sow's ear constructs only so much of the silk purse before betraying its identity. Optimally, but not categorically, one needs to experience live the drastic distinction between many tenors and, for example, a vocal and technical titan like Franco Corelli, comparable only to less than a handful of other tenors, none of whom appear in this example. Villazon had/has, at the very least, a very good lighter lyric instrument (and a terrific and charismatic actor); but, like so many (even for those without his native quality) pushed himself beyond the reasonable limits of that instrument.
I respectfully disagree. There is nothing stunning about these modern tenors. Nothing at all compared to Corelli, Del Monaco, Gedda, you name them. They are squeezing out high notes as if they are struggling with some powerful constipation
Listen to the most recent Piotr Beczala performance of the aria this year in Bilbao. This recording was made before.I think that Beczala sang it better in.the recent concert. Villazon Beczala and Kaufman are very good. But Corelli was unique
...LP considered Jussi Björling extraterrestrial if I may express it that way. He was full of admiration for him. Being himself one of the best lyrical tenors of all time, what a statement. RDS
Para mi gusto. Corelli es el mas grande tenor contemporáneo, quizás de todo el siglo XX. Sin embargo, discrepo de la actitud intolerante y soberbia con que se se refiere a los demás tenores nombrados.
No hay actitudes soberbias. Se trata de educar a la gente en como se canta bien. Quiza asi tal vez, recuperemos estandares artisticos como los de antes. No se trata de pobres diablos, hablamos de caballeros q cobran sumas ingentes por realizar mal su trabajo y eso hay q ponerlo de manifiesto cuanto menos.
@@ComteAnckarstrom Es interesante que digas eso. En los '50 Corelli no estaba visto como un gran tenor por los 'conocedores'. Una voz caprina que no era particularmente apreciada y una falta de elegancia (como la que tenian Gigli, Schipa y hasta di Stefano) fueron bastante criticadas. Creo que tu comentario sobre 'como se canta bien', es muy subjetivo. Esta claro que en el video ni Villazon ni Beczala estan en su repertorio aqui, pero ambos han hecho cosas muy interesantes en el repertorio mas liviano. Kaufmann crea una sonido muy oscuro que no va de mano con el volumen de su voz, pero es un cantante elegante que tambien ha hecho muy buen trabajo en algunos roles como Don Carlo, Don Jose, Cavaradossi, etc. Yo adoro a Corelli, pero si hablamos de 'cantar bien' como tu lo describes, Corelli tenia una pronunciacion peor que mediocre en el repertorio frances que tanto cantaba (Don Jose, Faust, Romeo) y en vivo, sobre todo en Italia y NYC, cantaba para las tertulias que se entretenian con los agudos sostenidos por largos periodos y el caudal de voz, por sobre su elegancia. Cada uno con lo suyo. Hoy en dia hay grandes cantantes y otros no tan grandes - como los hubo en los 50, 60, 70....)
@@Wotan123456789 Entiendo la reflexion y entrar en el terreno del gusto es batalla inutil. Lo q me han enseñado años de aprendizaje y contacto con quienes saben mas q yo es q hay una tecnica y una calidad en la emision, caudal y linea de canto q hoy francamente con una o dos excepciones no existen. Por las razones q fueren, falta de maestros, falta de talento, cambios en la estructura orquestal... ponga la razon q quiera o sumelas todas. Mas alla del frances ramplon de Franco Corelli, un bostezo suyo vale mas q todo lo hay en la escena hoy. Los criticos y los publicos del pasado, como señala, eran muy exigentes. Celleti q sento catedra maltrato a cantantes como Bastianini nada menos. Pero de esa exigencia nace la excelencia q hemos perdido en todo ambito artistico. Ya todo nos parece bien, las horribles puestas en escena bien, los cantantes a los q no se los oye( y lo digo literalmente pq voy mucho a la opera) tb fenomenal, ya todo vale, nadie protesta...bueno en el Teatro Real de Madrid a Jose Cura le liaron una gorda hace años y no volvio. Pero de esas habria q liar muchas, sin faltar al respeto, con protesta educada, pq la opera y el arte en general han perdido calidad y excelencia y si todo nos parece bien, no mantendremos ni esta estandar actual, lo cual ya es penoso.
No creo en un irrespeto. El. problema es la prostitución del tenor, años atrás en un teatro sabias que si era un tipo de obra te tiraban a este o al otro por sus características vocales. Hoy en día, todos ya hacen desde el bajo al tenor, como Domingo y al final no logran nada. La gran voz de Kraus se conservo como la de Sutherland usando los roles adecuados, hoy el jueves sale Villazón haciendo un muy buen Nemorino y al sábado esta haciendo muecas de dolor intentando golpear un agudo en los cuentos de Hoffman.
No question about it - Corelli was in a league all to himself - such an extraordinary talent that thrilled, and touched the heart, soul, and mind of those of us that had the great privilege of hearing him live or on recordings.
Corelli was gifted above anyone ese, probably. But it would have been more decent to praise hIm for his own value without the need to trash the others. About the title of the video. A SUPERB tenor.
Fare PARAGONI TRA CORELLI (MAßIMO TENOR EROICO DRAMATICO PER SEMPRE!)E JUAN DIEGO FLOREZ MASSIMO TENOR DI GRAZIE PER SEMRE E VILE BASSO COME UN PESSO LEGGERO E PESO MASSIMO. IL LORO REPERTORIO E TALMENTE TOTALMENTE DIVERSO. IO AMO PIU DI TUTTO IL BELCANTO E IN PIU DI 60 ANNI NESSUN MI SODDISFACEVA!!!JUAN DIEGO FLOREZ MI PORTA IN PARADISO CON SUA UNIVA VOCE E BELLEZZA APOLLINARIA TECHNICHA AUTOCRITICA COME MAI NESSUN CANTANTE NE SARA UN ALTRO. ORA DA 25 ANNI . CERTO LEGGE DIVINA HA 48 ANNI E LAVORA PIU MA SEMPRE UNICO.PERFETTO DIVINO!!!MARTA BEATRICE DARDAY
These comparisons are not to trash the singers but to demonstrate the insufficient techniques displayed by them in addition to show that they are lyric tenors punching above their weights.
Corelli is stupendous a genius tenor
Vocal chords of steel
Corelli doesn´t make faces, does not show any effort or pain. He does not advertise that he is doing something "very difficult". He sings. Amazing musicality. The emotion is in the song and in the voice. An artist that knows what he is doing and serves music, not the other way around.
You don't really get opera, do you? 😂 It's singing and acting
@@dowal199 bad acting is acting for you? Lets see: I saw LIVE: Souzay, Cotrubas, McCracken, Pavarotti, Kraus, among others. Does that count ?
@@dowal199 Opera singers are suppose to act with their voices. In a theatre you cannot see their facial expressions up close.
@@dowal199 He gets it perfectly well....
@@ZENOBlAmusic right, they stay in one place and just sing... 🤦🏼♂️
The comparison with Corelli is merciless!
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He is constantly off pace
Franco Corelli. ( la voce ),timbro unico e indimenticabile...grazie per essere esistito ,un dono
Голос необыкновенный!!! А какой Красавец!!!!!
io come timbro preferisco Pavarotti e come armonia Gigli.
This man was a Giant! Even as a soprano, I watch and learn from Corelli. He mastered his technique and gave us many, tremendously exciting years of his Voice.
Ty for sharing!
Corelli was not called "The Prince of Tenors" for nothing, what passion, vocal control and o my God those top notes and if that is not enough movie star good looks too, does not get better than this.
Lo maravilloso de Corelli y Pavarotti es que parecen estar hablando, cantan naturalmente, sin esfuerzo ni muecas. Sabemos que son horas de riguroso estudio y esfuerzo.
Pero el timbre y la versatilidad de la voz de Corelli, además de su tremendo atractivo físico lo hacen IN-SU-PE-RA-BLE.
Cierto. Corelli era hermoso!
Proprio codi:insuperabile ❤️💜🧡
Corelli, creo uno de los tenores con más presencia de la historia, pero a la vez de una voz extraordinaria por su extensión. Una interpretación, técnicamente superior. Si estuviere con los tres restantes, su voz resaltaría sin lugar a dudas. Un timbre parejo, voz dosificada, con fraseo, emisión agudos claros potentes no gritados, sin recurrir a facilismo de la expresión sensacionalista, ridícula en unos casos y hasta fuera de gusto en otras que no va con el sentido con el texto sino para causar sensacionalismo, protagonismo; creerán que la mayoría del público no se interesaran por el texto. Villazón lo que conmueve no es lo que canta, a mi me escarapela el cuerpo que pueda quedarse sin voz por exagerar y así pasó después con las operaciones por los nódulos que se le formaban en sus cuerdas vocales, bueno ahora es más sobrio pero no puede cantar mucho. Los demás cantantes Kauffman y Beczala no son actores, ese dramatismo para la ópera que les ayude la dirección escénica. Aquí son solo conciertos, deben hacerlo con sobriedad, más es el instrumento lo que debe destacar, sus voces. Cada uno de ellos parecen que fueran dos por lo diferenciado de sus tonalidades. Ahora que son tenores talentosos, por supuesto tienen muy buenas voces, son entregados y son destacados, por supuesto sólo que están tan lejos de Franco Corelli, en la gloria, como de las estrellas.
Los maestros clásicos son insuperables; pero es una pena que haya tantos aprendices, que se hacen llamar tenores, y pretensiosamente figuran entre los grandes de este tiempo, cuando realmente solo se les podría considerar no Muy buenos estudiantes, y engañan al publico que no conoce los básicos del Bell Canto.
Molesta mucho toda esa parodia que hacen, hacen ver todo dificil y no tiene nada de Bello, ni de Bell Canto y todo lo hacen un gran drama, que hasta causa temor, y parece que van a colapsar o quieren hacer colapsar a los que escuchan, para que los consideren majestuosos o espectaculares. No tienen la técnica, sino que se ve feamente que la Técnica los trae del cuello.
Fuera del Argumento de la obra, pregunto ¿Eso es Bell Canto, todo esa esa fea ejecución sin ninguna naturalidad, que por el contrario, parece que se esfuerzan en hacerlo más dificil y todo más parece una tragedia, que solo ellos pueden realizar? la verdad, muy mal. Seguro deben tener sus méritos de estudio y práctica, pero como público, debo decir que no suman, sino restan al hermos arte del Canto y sobre todo el Lírico.
There is a very basic difference between Corelli versus others. Corelli has a true Italian sound. Also he has a clear ringing voice in the Volpi approach.
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Why does Kaufman always sounded so muffled ?
@@yuenkoi cuz his sound is woofy and throaty
Cierto
@@yuenkoi he sings with a technique, an incorrect one, called la voce ingolata basically meaning throaty voice. Doing this artificially darkens the sound and creates an unfocused tone that has no ring to it. The effect is that the sound that comes out is woofy and dampened. Many singers today sound like this unfortunately.
What's even more astounding is that even with the advances in recording technology, Corelli still sounds better.
What I really love about the old school method: not only does it sound bigger; it also sounds more naturally spoken. You would think those 2 things are oposites, but they're not.
Very true. Di Stefano always wanted his audience to forget that he was singing, vs just speaking. Verdi and Wagner both wanted the same from their singers.
its the older recording techniques, which emphasize the highs and middle.. you can't compare recordings with 30+ years in between them in a serious manner..
having said that i love Corelli more than any other tenor today..
They didn’t manufacture their timbres back then. Kaufmann and Villazón artificially darken their tones, and somehow Beczała graduated being allowed to sing with a throaty tone. Also, the conductor in the Kaufmann examples is over the top: it’s distracting and likely doesn’t communicate anything to the orchestra.
Well, no. The sound isn't necessarily bigger, the Corelli videos are way louder. And that's a cheap trick by the channel. Because louder videos/voices are often quickly received as better. Not saying that Corelli is bad. But the videos are way too different for as face to face comparison without adjustment
@@dowal199 No, the sound is very similar. In the old sound you are losing mid range and bass sounds, the old sound only accentuate the high treble. The modern sound just has a more wider horizontal range and disperses the sound more evenly, there are far more mid range and bass in the modern sound, which makes it sound lower, but it is actually very equal. You are losing Corelli's lower and deeper sound in this recording, if you heard the studio version his voice will sound far deeper. Corelli had a much bigger and louder voice then any of these others, he had one of the biggest tenor voices, and he was better on high notes then these three as well, despite the big voice. He barely had to open his mouth and there were columns of volume and sound. Kaufmann barely sings without a microphone in front of him, for the last few years. Their problem is that they don't have any squillo, it is squillo that makes an opera singer's voice really loud and big, especially if you are performing spinto and dramatic repertoire, you can get away without squillo in the more lyrical roles. Corelli and Del Monaco had incredible amounts of metal and squillo in their voices. That being said Beczala is okay in lyrical roles. Kaufmann could have been fine if had squillo and he stopped artificially darkening his voice, Villazon was fine as a lyric tenor at one stage. These three are not the worst, Corelli just had an extremely exceptional voice, that you are not going to find very often.
The others are not mediocre. They are just not as good as Corelli.
There are certain vocal techniques used today that are distinctly less conducive to preserving and attaining vocal excellence.
Bueno entonces q quede Corelli solo y como los demás son mediocres q no canten 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Ami lo lo q me molesta es q los sabelotodo se expresen en una forma horrible de los demás tenoress ...... a cada quie Dios le dió un Don diferente !!
El Gran Tenor Lirico Spinto Franco Corelli uno de los grandes tenores del Siglo XX. Una gran voz dificil hoy en dia de encontrar algun sustituto y creo que por varios años
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No lo hay ni lo habrá, porque la opera cambió, la opera antigua sin microfono creaba cantantes potentes y con largos fraseos, hoy en dia la potencia se sustituyó por los parlantes, y el stablishment de la lírica no permite que no canten quienes no se adaptaron a la nueva opera, por eso los cantantes nuevos admiran a los old, pero saben que si se convierten en alumnos del viejo estilo jamás conseguiran papeles importantes en los grandes teatros.
So what happened? The vocal coaches gave up (one way or the other?)? Training was deemed too much? Or is it something we are eating, or breathing? Where did the beautiful voices go?
Vabbe, Corelli distuggerebbe qualsiasi tenore,figuriamoci questi.
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏....BEN DETTO... ❤❤❤CORELLI NON HA PARI❤❤❤...MI DISPIACE PER TUTTI GLI ALTRI...CHE MI SCUSO PER IL PARAGONE,MA MI SEMBRANO DELLE PENTOLE ATTACCATE AD UN CARRO IN MOVIMENTO...😂😂😂😂🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️
anche Gigli, Caruso, Pavarotti? Comunque le registrazioni dei tenori precedenti a Corelli sono tecnicamente penose.
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Questi in confronto a Corelli sono coristi. Vadano a buttarsi nel fiume piu' vicino a casa loro.... MA IN FRETTA.. DAI DAI DAI PIU' VELOCIIIII WOOOOOMMM 😂😂😂😂😂
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Wow! Corelli is in a class by himself.
Only if you are judging by this video. Corelli was great, but Beczala (who?), Villazon and the budget heldentenor Kaufmann are hardly appropriate comparisons. Look for "Mamma! Il vino e generoso" with di Stefano, Gigli, Bjorling - others, lots of others. Corelli tended to scoop to his high notes - he hit them, but it took a while. This isn't a musical judgement, but I think Corelli sounds like a thug - the kind of guy you wouldn't want to meet in a dark alley. Probably just me.
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@@davidgould9431 LOL
Корелли не старается петь драматическим голосом, не подчёркивает эмоции "драматической" мимикой - он вкладывает драматизм в своё пение, его голос не нуждается в "заглублении", "расширении", прочих ухищрениях, к которым вынуждены прибегать его оппоненты, но, будем справедливы - таких артистов всегда было не много. Беда в том, что певцы, достойные, максимум, второго, а то и третьего состава во времена Корелли и Дель Монако, сейчас числятся в лучших - и по праву! Другие-то ещё слабее! А во времена великих каким был второй состав? - Пиччи, Раймонди, Лимарилли, Поджи! - Любой из них "сдул" бы со сцены нынешних премьеров! - Вот, что всего хуже.
Franco Corelli was astoundingly good, and he was a very handsome man, as well as being tall, such a bonus!! 💖
There’s a Russian channel, Chiaroscuro, it shows that not only the great tenors of the past were much better than our contemporaries, but even the average tenors of 50-60’s are hugely superior.
Yeah, there's a channel😂😂😂
Non si possono fare confronti! Corelli era dotato di un carisma particolare. Ho avuto il privilegio di vederlo dal vivo e non lo posso dimenticare! Tinin
Anzi, se ne devono fare!
@@DiomedesDioscuro Si devono fare perché la lirica é da salvare!Leggetevi l'intervista di ieri al proposito ,rilasciata dal maestro Muti...leggetela davvero!
Bravissimo Corelli, 👏👏👍👍❤❤❤🇲🇽
Grande Corelli !!!!! Qué voz inigualable !!!!!!
Immenso Corelli, commozione continua.
Is it really necessary to waste time comparing the pure gold with bronze? He was the voice of the century.
What bollocks. Music is subjective. Your personal opinion is not an irrefutable truth. Furthermore, there are many genres of music, and you may not care for them or about them, but that doesn't mean they're not valid, so calling anyone the voice of the century is utter bullshit. Anyone who tries to prove that their favourite singer is the best is just trying to convince others of it, and they then get all flustered and angry when others disagree. How childish. Music should be enjoyed for what it is. Why turn it into a contest? There are no winners in what is a subjective art form, as is any that affects human emotions. Just enjoy the music without trying to prove the unprovable, for Christ's sake.
Sooooo. My favorite is Mario Lanza, and he isn’t even in the category. What a shame.
The category was comparing Corelli with few other operatic tenors. Corelli was a spinto tenor with huge voice and equally skillful in soft pianissimo. Lanza also had a powerful voice but his operatic career was interrupted by making Hollywood movies. He was known as tenor and Hollywood film star.
@@joeblack8915 I guess you are the one who gets angry when people discuss their favorite singers that you do not agree. In fact you probably like any voice in all genre including rap singers. The person who put this up is comparing Corelli with some mediocre tenors. So get angry with him. Many critics have said more than any others, Corelli was the voice of the century. So get angry with those critics as well. As a bel canto trained classical tenor myself, I happen to agree with them wholeheartedly.
@@joeblack8915 music is not subjective. There are plenty of objective parameters that can be discussed, you can even mesure them. Singing technique is one of them.
Franco Corelli must have been a very hard-working and demanding artist...but essentially he was a "natural". No superfluous tension in the jaw, amazing connection, astounding fiatto, a "messa da voce" unmatched. The ability to communicate emotion,pain and effort without straining his voice. Drama without affectation.
Well, you just described the correct singing technique 👍🏻
i don't think he was a naturale, distefano was, corelli (i believe) had to work on it.
As was Beniamino Gigi who probably was the greatest of the "naturals." Caruso however, in my opinion was the greatest tenor ever and probably will never be equaled. That can also be said of Maria Callas who "was" the part she sang in every role.
All of these tenors are superlative.
he worked extremely hard, was a perfectionist, AND was a natural. his virtuosic and hard won technical mastery is just as essential as his instincts
I was privileged to attend several of Corelli’s master classes in NYC in the 90’s. I can’t sing a note but just to watch him coaching vocal students was memorable.
Of course, Corelli is one of the best tenors of the 20th century, but the comparation ist nevertheless stupid: The recording technics is not comparable, and the voice of Corelli is made artificially louder. Kaufmann f. ex. is not so metallic in his colour, but much more nuanced in his interpretation. He is neider better nor worse than Corelli. Baczala, ok, this is an operette singer.
@@danielungermann7055 dumb comments over a non plus ultra tenor. just f.t.s.u
@@danielungermann7055 ...Indeed, one of the reasons modern tenors like Kaufmann look a little more strained and intense in their faces is that now they think a lot more about the expression in terms of the character and role they're playing out in the aria...Whereas if you watch singers like Monaco, you can see all their thinking about is whether they can put extra high note or two in the next few bars!
@@tenorandguitar Totally wrong!
Mr. Ungerman you have no idea. Corelli was one of the loudest, the modern ones heran are no voices compared to him. I did sing with two of them, believe me, they have absolutely mediocre, not really developed voices. Woofy, ingolato, squeezed and constricted sounds and throats. Corelli s throat is completely open and free. Who cares about nuances if not one sound out of their mouth is good??? Who has ears, listen! The others should be quiet and learn.
The mediocare is the one that has no idea of what a professional singer is. We know that Franco Corelli was an incredible gifted tenor but that does not mean that Villazón or the other respectable tenors are medicre, they are professionals that deserve all our respect. Is something like saying that all football players that can not do what Pelé did are medicare when they are very good professional players. Is something like saying that Fritz Wündelich or Jussi Bjoerlig were also mediocre and obviusly they were not.
Bjorling and Wunderlich are gods compared to today’s tenors
@@shayanmardanbeigi2697 It is a paradigm to think that everything of the past was better, is like saying that Corelli was inferior compared to Caruso, Fleta or Gigli. I invite you to listen to Javier Camarena singing La figlia del reggimento and you'll realize that he is as good as the tenors of the past.
@@luisantoniodejesusgarciasa2141 No, Camarena is overrated.
@@luisantoniodejesusgarciasa2141 I think modern tenors are talented but the problem is their technique. Most of them sing with the mask. I absolutely believe that their technique doesn't let them project their voices better. One of those with a bad technique is Juan Diego Florez. I recognize that, even I am peruvian as him.
on the contrary... no one is saying that every one should be Corelli. The Technique! Fritz Wunderlich, Bergonzi, and Björling were briliant as well. So many others. I mentioned it in another post.... A car with a flat tire, is a car with a flat tire, no matter what it's make, the year it was made and the old or new technology it was made with.
No contest. Corelli is the best at every level against these three and any other tenor. There will never be another. Bravo!
Aynı fikirdeyim yanısıra Mario de Monako’yu da unutmıyalım
Vaya, hasta que encuentro un video con alguien que sabe quién canta de verdad y quién no
Cualquiera con un poco de gusto no puede llamar canto a lo que hacen estos dos perros.
@@sergiotelechemhhtt5a31 así es.
Corelli è divino! He makes it look so natural, so easy!
Yeah, Turiddu wearing a suit and tie. So natural. It's not the look, it's the sound. And what a sound.
@@davidgould9431 you sound dumb af. He’s talking about his technique. It makes it look like his singing is easy as hell. Which is far more difficult than people think.
Que mal gusto...tan solo el de asignar este título al vídeo! ... que exceso de soberbia y pedantería.
Los muchachos que titularon este video fueron excesivamente generosos en calificar a estos dos de "mediocre tenors". Los "monos aulladores" hubiera sido más preciso.
I have to contradict: Franco Corelli was not 'divino', but he was 'un Dio' among the tenors.
Devo contraddire: Franco Corelli non era 'divino', era 'Dio' tra i tenori.
Franco CORELLI E NEL TRIADE:DICO COME ERA NEL TEMPO:CALLAS ,CORELLI JDFLOREZ. NON SI RIPETERE MAI:IL UNICO DIO CREATORE NON SI RIPETE!MARTA DARDAY
I thought the first tenor was Mr Bean for a minute!
Exactly what I thought!
I thought the same.
I think Mr Bean is better. Very funny 😆
Me pasó igual!!
...what a remarkable singer!
All'inizio ho pensato che "destroying" nel titolo fosse un po' esagerato, ma dall'Andante con moto (min. 2:50) in poi ha trovato un suo senso: che differenza!
Kaufmann & co cantano la frase in maniera talmente snaturata da togliere la drammaticità a una pagina di musica che invece ne è piena. Tutti e tre calcano a sproposito le vocali, ingrossando la voce forse per aggiungere una componente struggente, ma ciò che ottengono di sicuro non è dramma, in quanto il discorso musicale diventa poco scorrevole e perde la sua direzione. I loro acuti su "s'io non tornassi" sembrano forzati in un qualcosa simile a un grido, e arrivano talmente all'improvviso da sembrare fuori contesto.
Al contrario, la voce e l'interpretazione di Corelli assumono con una naturalezza incredibile le sembianze di Turiddu che già è consapevole di avere un coltello conficcato nel petto. Corelli canta come parlerebbe un figlio a sua madre, con la consapevolezza che sta andando a morire ma non vuole farla preoccupare. Nel finale, su "s'io non tornassi", l'acuto è talmente consequenziale alla frase musicale che sembra raggiungibile da chiunque, talmente è cantato con semplicita: morbido ma intenso, triste ma deciso.
Per concludere: tutti e quattro hanno eseguito un'aria di Cavalleria, ma uno solo ha cantato nei panni di Turiddu
Tutto vero.
Analisi perfetta!!!!
Non c'è storia!!!!!!! Corelli! Prodigio!!!!!!
La chiusa finale è particolarmente efficace, brava.
Corelli was touched by God's finger
There is no question Corelli is the prince of tenors but what is to be gained by denigrating singers of today? Shall we just shut down opera today and retreat to our dark bedrooms and just listen to lps from the 50s?? It all seems counter productive to me.
To trash new singers because they are not Del Monoco or Corelli or Callas or Tebaldi is just short sighted. There is no question we have these super stars from the past that stirred our souls but please do not say such awful things about the singers of today.
I wouldn't want to sing with such rancor abounding.
I totally agree with you. 👍 Comparing is not the issue.
Let the departed rest in peace comparisons are ungaining. You shut up yourself and listen to longplays of the 50's in á radiola
I agree with you. In this videos, Kaufmann does a good job though. Turiddu, being not such a heavy role, suits his voice quite well. I am not a big fan of his technique but I like him here.
In his prime, Corelli was criticized for a lack of finesse. He had a very powerful voice, but he relied on this power a little too much, at the expense of refinement and emotional content, according to the common wisdom of the time. So these comparisons are not really valuable. It takes time to evaluate a singer. Callas, for instance, who was known for her dramatic skills, never sang with Corelli, but with Di Stephano and Berganzi, who could compete with her dramatic style.
@@theosalvucci8683 I agree 100% with you. Also Corelli was critized for a caprino sound that was not appreciated at that time. Corelli was know in those years to sing for the 'cheap seats' sustaining high notes for long periods and doing everything in his capacities to make them happy.
However, Callas and Corelli sang many roles together (Fedora, Trovatore, Tosca, Poliuto plus the commercial recordings)
Партия Туридду, на мой взгляд, не для Петра Бечала.
Corelli, el mejor de todos los tiempos!!!
Corelli is unmatched in every aspect....
Todos estos tenores son buenos pero Corelli... ES EXCEPCIONAL!!!
Claro que no todos son buenos.
Hay cantantes líricos con gran fama pero que son una blasfemia para la opera, por ejemplo. Kaufman, Netrebko. Gagaranca. El trio de engomados.
Beczala no...
@@sgonz9475 Sos demasiado generoso. Yo lo haría extensivo a Flórez, Villazón, Cura, en fin, a todos desde la década del '90 en adelante.
@@sergiotelechemhhtt5a31 sobre todo Cura y Alagna, dos paquetes de los buenos
@@EmilioSanchez-jq9eb Alagna en sus comienzos era un buen tenor, yo lo escuché al comienzo de su carrera varias veces y era de lo mejorcito de su generación, pero después de poco años lo volví a escuchar y ya su voz era un desastre.
Corelli has a big voice, BELTING OUT all the time, and NOT in "tempo" here, and in some other places... Villazon has the most beauty in his voice... An old tenor ,teacher of mine, learned in Italy and said that "the rumor" was that Corelli had a studio at home, doing high notes to use on recordings... TUNING UP THE HIGH NOTES.....
If you listen to him and Fiorenza Cossotto life in Aida 4rth act, SHE sounds bigger and better singer... (He start a bit nasal...) Cossotto is GREAT, Corelli good, but not as she is.....
I LIKE DEL MONACO BETTER. His last performance is still great, but Corelli sounds not so good in later videos.... (Overestimated...)
What are you talking about?
@@labienus9968 Cossotto and Corelli on stage in Aida. SHE IS THE BIGGER VOICE.
He is to CLOSE to microphones in this comparison. A bit NASAL also. He run after and hit a man that booed him in Il trovatore. (He could not sing for half an hour after that, THIS STORY IS FAMOUS... ) Lanza was also a bit crazy and dangerous, IF people did not like him...
Cossotto had a big voice so what?Yes, there are a few legendary stories about Corelli in the 50s-what does that have to do with your original comment? I heard Corelli live more than 40x-it was a very big voice, yet full of shading and color,never just about high notes-oh, heard numerous live high Cs and even dflat.MDM second half of his career was down to 2-3 roles-could only sing forte. Lanza wasn't an opera singer-who cares?
Il primo rischia un colpo apoplettico, il secondo si strangola con un ranocchio , il terzo bzzzz bzzzzz bzzz. Corelli naturale, fresco, elegante,strepitoso.
Viva Corelli! 😍
Ma Kaufman é un tenore drammatico perché dovrebbe sembrare che si strozzasse? Io non l'ho notato
@@davidecostanzo9752 Kaufmann senz altro ha le sue qualità... anche Beczala... ma in altro repertorio...
@@davidecostanzo9752 Kaufmann e' nato ingolato.e morira' ingolato.
Exactly, I thought the same.
Corelli war ein ausgezeichneter Spinto-Tenor, der aber sicher keine Wagner-Rolle hätte singen können, wie z.B. JK, der von Lehar bis Wagner alles kann und nicht theatralisch ist. Es hat eben keinen Sinn, tote oder inaktive Sänger mit den jetzigen zu vergleichen.
Franco Corelli è stato davvero il più grande, ineguagliabile e mai troppo rimpianto..
Da questo video, comunque, traspare la voce di Rolando Villazon, che è constatabile anche visionando altri suoi filmati, nella sua eccellente espressione e nel suo timbro potente e sicuro.
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Corelli? un Tenor Spinto , Esa es la Gran Diferencia , con los tenores , Kaufmann? Tenor Lirico? Villazon Tenor Lirico, y Geczala, Tenor ligero, y pues Franco Corelli un Gran Tenor Spinto, muy pocos Tenores Spintos? yo creo que si, Segun mi maestra Lucy Gomez de Mac, Chesney, YO? Tenor Spinto, pero? pues , me dedique a mi profecion de Anestesiologo, Ahora Jubilado? haber si me abinturo al bell canto de nuevo, ya que tengo un amigo profecional, Rafael Rojas tenor Lirico, en Hungria. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Desgraciadamente, mi amigo Rafael Rojas Gonzales, Un Tenor Lirico, que se encontrava en Hungria, Fallecio el 18 de Enero de este 2022, y yo que lo mencione hace como un anio, y pues si, ya no esta con nosotros, que en PAZ descanse, y se encuentre en el CIELO
Rolando Villazón's version sounds and looks more like a caricature than an actual serious performance in my opinion.
100% and those eyebrows make it all worse
Mr bean singing opera
@@tamerbelal1
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Idiotic comment. Nonentity adjudicating on a professional
cierto, pero hay tipos que los ponen a la altura de los grandes, como Corelli, Caruso, Bjorling, Di Stefano
They were all good in their own way. Corelli was good in every way!
NO ONE CAN COMPARE TO THE GREAT FRANCO CORELLI
His stone timbre and because he ownes spint.
Tenors today perform heavy roles too early, and it seems that they do not have enough time to rest. Careers like tenors in the past had are not possible in our times.
@@evandrosantana3670 careras cracked even on lyric. He was like unstable wood on che gelida at 1973. So awful. Too much attention on freaks. Tenors can cracked even on lyric, thats horrible
@@Monnarchmonnarchy when you think of Villazon, for example, you see the problem: Don Carlo, Werther, etc. Today you don't see him very often in opera roles (he is almost restricted to recitals).
@@evandrosantana3670 vilazon poor guy. Cracked tenor. Throaty. But he sang not good at young i guess. Only young Alagna from modern stars got a good technique, not perfect, but more operatic. Much more pitty story
Let's face it they all suck big time. Corelli👑 & Del Monaco👑 were real tenors. 🇫🇷🎶🎼🎵🍷 Arnold Bourbon AMARAL
Those are NOT "mediocre " tenors . They're terrific in their own ways .
Well said
Using microphones of course.
@@lazatarra
......uh, no
@@rugby8-Philadelphia of course! Haven’t u heard these singers live? You’ll be disappointed as I was.
@@lazatarra
I have, and I like different ones different amounts - but of course they didn't need mics.
Perhaps you've heard them in an outdoor park setting where the sound always dicey...
Splendide opéra
Corelli inarrivabile, non ci sono pariagoni !!
I love this. I never got Poveratti. Franco was it, and they didn't even have all the tech and and overproducing. Poveratti could be on and off for me.
У Корелли невероятно благородный, красивый, полный голос. Лучший!
ДаКорелли принц теноров он неповторим
Kaufman drooling on himself.....Just can’t get that out of my mind. Disgusting!! 🤤🤤
All of them are microphone tenors, media. Franco was God in open stages, all'aperto.
You do know you're hearing them all, including Corelli, through a microphone, right?
Compare the orchestra sounds of all these examples and you'll realize the biggest difference is in the recording technologies. 😏
@@mikeobrien1559 Microphones for amplifying the voice in the rooms, not for picking up sound.
@@FranciscoArvizuH Exactly!
@@FranciscoArvizuH and how are you supposed to record them then?
@@hectorrobertocontrerasmiranda I reiterate. It is one thing to capture the sound in an acoustic auditorium and another is the amplification of the room. As far as it is known, Franco Corelli did not act with his voice electronically amplified, which is common today, and not only since The Three Tenors, who turn the art of operatic singing into a simulacrum.
Corelli era espectacular, pero me parece desacertado tratar de mediocres a los otros tenores . Primero Corelli siempre cantó obra italiana -lengua de sangre idioma de origen )- por supuesto que pudo lograr excelentes interpretaciones. Los tenores que pretenden comparar hablan otro idioma por origen . (español -alemán-ruso) , esto genera alguna diferencia. pero no son mediocres. Cada intérprete es un individuo .
I always hate to compare tenors because Corelli always was and I assume always will be my favorite. I like many tenors but none as much as Corelli including del Monaco, Pavarotti, Tucker (my least favorite of those 4). He certainly looked extremely relaxed in these snippets. His sound was, as always absolutely stunning. Clearly he was gifted with an absolutely spectacular instrument and made the most of it. He had a squillo that very few singers have. Pavarotti had it on his highest notes but not so much in the mid-range/passagio where Corelli had it in spades around F to Ab. In person, he made it look truly effortless. He could sing lying down just as well as standing. I never liked Kaufman because to my ear his throat sounds closed off and almost muffled at times. He is quite a good musician though. Villazon sounds good but is hard to watch with all his facial/oral contortions. I found Beczala to be technically adept but uninspiring. None of the 3 seem to have any real squillo in the upper register however which to me really separates the truly inspiring from those that are not (my personal opinion only of course). It is certainly true that singing at the level of these 4 men is extremely difficult. Almost no one can do it at all. One has to admire them for what they have accomplished. Singing for years at this level is truly a massive challenge.
Where do you place di Stefano and Alagna?
@@oldmacmillan di Stefano was a lyric tenor and ruined his voice trying to sing heavier rep. To my ears, he sounded like a pig when he sang roles too heavy for him. Carreras, Alagna, and Araiza follwed in his (Di Stefano's) footsteps sadly. Lovely lyric voices that pushed and forced and trashed their voices.
Que piensas de Juan Diego Flores, peruano. Yo creo que es excelente como para agregar a la lista
@@oldmacmillan Alaña no existe!!!!
@@craigcollins6904 Exactly..you are quite right
The amount of hate generated by some people here is beyond belief and comprehension. Shame on you!!!
DIVINO CORELLI!!!!!!!Grazie a old school singers:spero che serva a far capire al pubblico di bocca buona che frequenta i teatri oggi, la differenza tra un vero tenore e i disperati ,osannati di questi tempi...Sigh!!!
Tal cual
Sehr unfair !!!!!! Extra Arien ausgesucht wo nur Corelli gut ist !!!!!
Je nach Arie sind die anderen auch gut !!!
I personally don’t think Jonas Kaufman can sing. Nothing personal. I have tried listening to him, but I cannot take him or his performance.
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Corelli was unique in his continual work to improve his voice and his mastery of emotional delivery across his entire career. He also had a true Italian dramatic voice. In these excerpts, the only one who comes close to Corelli is Kaufmann who also is a true dramatic tenor but of the German rather than Italian school. All of the others are attempting to provide "dramatic tenor" deliveries with non-dramatic voices. Listen, for example, to Alfredo Kraus singing this music. He makes no attempt to push his voice beyond the pure lyric tenor that he was and yet makes a superb dramatic delivery by so doing. He also never tried the true dramatic repertoire [e.g., Otello or Tristan] but by avoiding those he gave us 40 years of absolutely superb tenor performances.
Corelli had such a powerful voice he could sing this role and many others effortlessly... that gave him the chance to put his dramatic color without distorting speech nor tone, i.e. no need to yell or scream.
Yes, it seems so effortless when Corelli sings. When you look at the faces of Villazon, Kaufmann (and others of today) singing the same arias as Corelli (example: Turridu Mama) their faces are deformed, tortured and frightening to us who see them and Corelli's face is normal, and still with lots of passion and feelings. No comparison.
Corelli seemed he was charging the whole orchestra like an Anteus.
@@judithbereczky4114 They sre pushing their voices. None of them have any business singing roles like Turiddu. They simply do not have the goods for it. Corelli sings it without all these contortions because he had the vocal resources to do it. If you want to see something truly horrific, I suggest you watch Villazon obliterate the song "L' alba separa della luce l'ombra " by Tosti, from about 2011. It's like some kind of demonic possession going on when he "sings" it.
@@paulennini3655 Ha ha. Villazon looks sometimes like he is demonically possessed.
Kaufman is so average as a tenor. I truly can't understand what strings were pulled for him to get the gigs he did. He's good don't get me wrong better than any random shmo off the street but in the opera world he's average.
... CORELLI FRANCO, SEMPRE ETERNAMENTE... UNICO 💎 🌬️ 🌹💫💫💫💫💫
Bello e grande Corelli!!! Grazie
There´s nothing to compare Corelli is one of the greatest tenor of all times.
And here we have the oh-most-musically-sensitive argument of all time: who was louder, Corelli or del Monaco? Because that's what it comes down to. I've read far too many YT posts about it and that's what they all boil down to.
Fritz Wunderlich
@denny b IMHO del Monaco only had forte and fortissimo but Corelli also had piano and pianissimo.
ich liebe nicht Italienischen oper
@denny b Fair point - I was being a grumpy old man - sorry for that.
Can´t compare. Corelli belongs to a SPECIES which are completely extinguished and dead in our days. There´s only ONE Franco Corelli and there will always be one. The other ones do what they can, that´s all.
Corelli aveva un organo a canne nel petto, una delle voci più belle e potenti di tutti k tempi, sorretto da una tecnica vocale di altissimo livello imparata da Lauri Volpi.
Lo stesso Pavarotti ne aveva una ammirazione sconfinata. Se fosse in quest’epoca sarebbe un divo idolatrato a livello planetario.
Concordo!
Oooh yes!!!!!!!! The biggest!!!!! Meravigliosa creaturaaaaaaaa
There’d be no sopranos today who could share the stage with Corelli today. He’d destroy them all.
@@toscadonna Corelli or any tenor did not seek to destroy their sopranos.
He absolutely blows them away here. Kaufman sounds like a baritone singing tenor. He has the notes, but not the ring and brilliance. Bezcala sounds pathetic compared to Corelli. IMO only Villazon comes anywhere close, and he looks like he is oversinging and working way too hard. With Corelli, it looks and sounds easy and natural.
Franco Corelli is the greatest !
Comparisons are odious. None of the other tenors you mention are mediocre. Get a life.
I wouldn't call the other tenors "mediocre." Corelli's voice was in a class of its own and very unique. I understand he was always very nervous before he went out to perform. It was also a huge tenor voice with such a focused, brilliant tone. So thrilling to hear. I had the honor to hear him sing in Turandot one time; amazing when he sang his high Bb not facing the audience and it could be heard very clearly. When he turned around it even got louder!
Not about louder sound but a sound that carries through the theater.
Actually, mediocre is a nice thing to say about the other tenors since they don't really know how to sing.
Very few know how to these days. Unfortunately.
True singing is almost a lost art.
Corelli was nervous to sing, because he had a stutter when speaking. But speaking and singing use different parts of the brain, and we didn’t know that back then. He was worried to stutter onstage.
His wife used to push him onto the stage at his worse moments.
@@toscadonna Dear Toscadonna, I've heard Corelli speak on many interviews both in Italian and English. I never heard him stutter in Italian. Corelli suffered from terrible stage fright which plagued him throughout his career. Even people who stutter when they speak, do not stutter while singing.
@@williamadolphe7921 Dear William, Corelli was NOT a perfect singer. He simply suffered from stage fright throughout his career.
Tiene un criterio delincuencial quien titula así este video. El arte no es una competencia y menos una actividad destructora. Habrá mas o menos adeptos, conocedores o simplemente espectadores. En cualquier actividad humana se hacen clasificaciones. Yo he admirado a Franco Corelli desde 1.960 o desde antes, he sabido de su vida y jamás se le describe como un destructor, como un artista envidioso, al contrario vemos en él a una persona agradecida con su profesión y amable con sus colegas. Quienes le dediquen un corto tiempo a conocer la historia de su vida y por ejemplo su amistad con otro gigante, Ettore Bastianinni , olvidarán el titulo de este video y entenderán que quien así lo nombró es un idiota resentido muy ignorante. Alguien que no disfruta la esencia del arte, de la música, un pobre niño inmaduro. Un niño peliétas
Brutal, cómo nos han ido cambiando el gusto... Eternamente agradecido por refrescar mis oidos. Tremendo Corelli
No han cambiado los gustos sencillamente hoy elevan a lo mas alto a aquellos que por una razón u otra manejan el mundo de la ópera, dejando al margen voces mejores que las que elevan con un marketing brutal.
Corelli era espectacular, pero no pueden tratar de mediocres a los demás tenores... tener en cuenta la nacionalidad , el contexto y son estos tiempos. No nos han ido cambiando el gusto , el canto también tiene cambios porque vienen otros intérpretes. otras tecnologías... y mucha competencia. No me parece acertado comparar son individuos.
@@mariagracielacowan1587 Corelli no era espectacular, fue y es único. Es verdad que son técnicas distintas y personas distintas, pero dígame: ¿Qué sería de la ópera sin la comparación? Se compara versiones según directores y según el elenco artístico de la misma. Sin la comparación, la ópera habría muerto. Yo no digo ni hablo de mediocres, pero sí que le digo que uno de ellos no canta, berrea. A ver si adivina quién. Un saludo y a seguir disfrutando.
@@cosme9899 de acuerdo, comparar es una posición distinta a tratar de mediocres a otros tenores como dice el título del vídeo. No son intérpretes mediocres ,son distintos ,con sus peculiaridades vocales y su origen ... Cosme escuchar a Corelli en el aria de Calaf (NESSUM DORMA) -Turandot de Puccini- Es absolutamente emocionante a pesar de las imperfecciones de las grabaciones. Saludos y a disfrutar . Amo a Corelli .
@@mariagracielacowan1587 Nunca dije que lo fueran, solo dije que uno de los tres, en vez de cantar, berrea.
The difference is so big that the comparision seems unfair. Kaufmann in particular just irritates me with that voce ingolata, so artifitial singing. Corelli forever.
I feel the same about Kaufmann. And this is not about Corelli. You could replace him in this video with any number of non-modern tenors and it would still be obvious. So I don't think the comparison is so unfair. It's not about being gifted, but about the way they sing. Look at Kaufmann when he opens his mouth. All you see is tongue. How can the sound he produces not be muffled?
@@mbrackeva Very true. Tkanks for your comment.
He has a beautiful lyric tenor some conductor or teacher destroyed.
Y'all talk like a cult you know that?
@@tobiasandrews3778 It was never really beautiful, but it is already much worse than 10 years earlier. He literally has nothing left. His heft is gone too.
Yes, indeed Corelli is Numero Uno.
The Best tenor ever 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟💚💚💚💚💚
После Корелли, почему-то не хочется
слушать никого.
I wish companies would stop hiring singers with horrible technique. The modern tenors always sound like they're trying to lift a 1000 lbs. weight over their heads...and fishy-round-tunnel mouths and pushing are not going to make things better or easier.
There must be a special place in Hell for modern singing teachers and all they’ve done to destroy voices. It’s unbearable to listen to these thin, anemic tenors. I’ll stick with my recordings of Corelli.
Compering body, facial expression and eyes, Franco Corelli is simply stunning. The 3 modern tenors are little in pain performing.
For me too Corelli is N° 1.
Es indiscutible que Corelli tenia una técnica y una potencia innata, por eso le costaba menos, que al resto de los tenores.
Su Impostacion era impecable, lastima no encontrar, 'Los pescadores de perlas'. Bizet , cantada por él.
Why do we have to compare apples and oranges? Ego?! Nothing wrong with Villazon. Corelli was unbelievable but so are many others in their own way.
Corelli is great but I, just an opera novice, enjoys listing to Gigli, Del Monaco, Bergonzi, Di Stefano, Bjorling, Tagliviani, Shipa, Lanza - great singers are so vast, with Corelli one the them, I just have to concentrate & buy recordings & listen to these great singers of my choice. Cheers!
My favs, Bjoerling, del Monaco, and great admirer of Bergonzi.
Corelli CANTA e TI COMMUOVE. Gli altri, ingolati, gridano.
sono bravi tutti e tre ma Franco Corelli sta lassu' nell'Olimpo non c'e paragone lui e' stato benedetto dal dio del canto e dalla dea Venere tanto era la sua bellezza il suo fascino ,era e sara sempre unico immenso
Dimentichi Mario Del Monaco?
¿Sono bravi tutti e tre? Comparar a Corelli con dos canes ladrando no amerita ningún comentario.
@@sergiotelechemhhtt5a31 Hai ragione su tutti i fronti, è un sacrilegio farlo gareggiare con quei tre che sono stonati, ingolati, e cantano a gola stretta...che sofferenza!
@@sergiotelechemhhtt5a31 ha ha ha , dai Villazon non è poi così male.
La voz de Franco Corelli, puesta en igualdad de condiciones con otros tres tenores de más reciente figuración, pone de relieve la inmensa superioridad e impetuosidad de su registro, sin duda alguna uno de los tenores más impetuosos y diestros en el correcto manejo de sus agudos, lo mismo que de un impresionante dominio de su respiración y de su emisión.
Corelli voce pura gli altri tre sono facchini della voce
Non si può fare un paragone con il Grande Corelli!!!
Oh Corelli! Bendita voz ! Saludos cordiales!
I don’t think Villazon is so bad....I like his delivery of emotional roles. His Lensky’s aria from Onegin is outstanding (at least in my opinion!) :-)
Villazon's sound was not that bad, but he obviously had to overextended himself by far. He is a lyric tenor that has to force his voice to sing heavy repertoire. It is not surprise that he has a lot of vocal problems these days.
Noone destroying anyone here. This kind of fan warfare is destroying the music by terrible editing, and proving nothing.
A caveat: these are stunning performances BY ALL! Franco is simply THE MOST STUNNING! These are not mediocre artists by any stretch! Franco simply rocks harder! Just my opinion...
PR + sound engineering can do literal miracles for the presentation and even career longevity of voices of mediocre quality; but at the end of the day, as one incontrovertibly hears in the stark disparity between Corelli and countless other tenors,
the sow's ear constructs only so much of the silk purse before betraying its identity.
Optimally, but not categorically, one needs to experience live the drastic distinction between many tenors and, for example, a vocal and technical titan like Franco Corelli, comparable only to less than a handful of other tenors, none of whom appear in this example.
Villazon had/has, at the very least, a very good lighter lyric instrument (and a terrific and charismatic actor); but, like so many (even for those without his native quality) pushed himself beyond the reasonable limits of that instrument.
Coincido!
I respectfully disagree. There is nothing stunning about these modern tenors. Nothing at all compared to Corelli, Del Monaco, Gedda, you name them. They are squeezing out high notes as if they are struggling with some powerful constipation
@@romankotov9914 totalmente cierto. Todos estos tenores modernos cantan igual, no impresionan, ni emocionan. Saludos cordiales ❤❤❤
Each has brought his own God-given gifts to us all.
Listen to the most recent Piotr Beczala performance of the aria this year in Bilbao. This recording was made before.I think that Beczala sang it better in.the recent concert. Villazon Beczala and Kaufman are very good. But Corelli was unique
"Vocal chords of steel."
Pavarotti spoke about Corelli.
...indeed, LP spoke about FC always with the greatest respect and admiration. About Björling he said: „ I am only human...“.RDS
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What do you mean?
...LP considered Jussi Björling extraterrestrial if I may express it that way. He was full of admiration for him. Being himself one of the best lyrical tenors of all time, what a statement. RDS
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It seems like the Bjorling tapes are scratchy sounding. I would like to hear him on better equipment.
@@kathrynmolesa1641 ...I am sure you find plenty of excellent recordings of JB. „Gifted by God, taught by the angels,“ as one critic praised him. RDS
Para mi gusto. Corelli es el mas grande tenor contemporáneo, quizás de todo el siglo XX.
Sin embargo, discrepo de la actitud intolerante y soberbia con que se se refiere a los demás tenores nombrados.
Absolutamente de acuerdo en ambas opiniones
No hay actitudes soberbias. Se trata de educar a la gente en como se canta bien. Quiza asi tal vez, recuperemos estandares artisticos como los de antes. No se trata de pobres diablos, hablamos de caballeros q cobran sumas ingentes por realizar mal su trabajo y eso hay q ponerlo de manifiesto cuanto menos.
@@ComteAnckarstrom Es interesante que digas eso. En los '50 Corelli no estaba visto como un gran tenor por los 'conocedores'. Una voz caprina que no era particularmente apreciada y una falta de elegancia (como la que tenian Gigli, Schipa y hasta di Stefano) fueron bastante criticadas.
Creo que tu comentario sobre 'como se canta bien', es muy subjetivo. Esta claro que en el video ni Villazon ni Beczala estan en su repertorio aqui, pero ambos han hecho cosas muy interesantes en el repertorio mas liviano. Kaufmann crea una sonido muy oscuro que no va de mano con el volumen de su voz, pero es un cantante elegante que tambien ha hecho muy buen trabajo en algunos roles como Don Carlo, Don Jose, Cavaradossi, etc.
Yo adoro a Corelli, pero si hablamos de 'cantar bien' como tu lo describes, Corelli tenia una pronunciacion peor que mediocre en el repertorio frances que tanto cantaba (Don Jose, Faust, Romeo) y en vivo, sobre todo en Italia y NYC, cantaba para las tertulias que se entretenian con los agudos sostenidos por largos periodos y el caudal de voz, por sobre su elegancia.
Cada uno con lo suyo. Hoy en dia hay grandes cantantes y otros no tan grandes - como los hubo en los 50, 60, 70....)
@@Wotan123456789 Entiendo la reflexion y entrar en el terreno del gusto es batalla inutil. Lo q me han enseñado años de aprendizaje y contacto con quienes saben mas q yo es q hay una tecnica y una calidad en la emision, caudal y linea de canto q hoy francamente con una o dos excepciones no existen. Por las razones q fueren, falta de maestros, falta de talento, cambios en la estructura orquestal... ponga la razon q quiera o sumelas todas. Mas alla del frances ramplon de Franco Corelli, un bostezo suyo vale mas q todo lo hay en la escena hoy. Los criticos y los publicos del pasado, como señala, eran muy exigentes. Celleti q sento catedra maltrato a cantantes como Bastianini nada menos. Pero de esa exigencia nace la excelencia q hemos perdido en todo ambito artistico. Ya todo nos parece bien, las horribles puestas en escena bien, los cantantes a los q no se los oye( y lo digo literalmente pq voy mucho a la opera) tb fenomenal, ya todo vale, nadie protesta...bueno en el Teatro Real de Madrid a Jose Cura le liaron una gorda hace años y no volvio. Pero de esas habria q liar muchas, sin faltar al respeto, con protesta educada, pq la opera y el arte en general han perdido calidad y excelencia y si todo nos parece bien, no mantendremos ni esta estandar actual, lo cual ya es penoso.
No creo en un irrespeto. El. problema es la prostitución del tenor, años atrás en un teatro sabias que si era un tipo de obra te tiraban a este o al otro por sus características vocales. Hoy en día, todos ya hacen desde el bajo al tenor, como Domingo y al final no logran nada. La gran voz de Kraus se conservo como la de Sutherland usando los roles adecuados, hoy el jueves sale Villazón haciendo un muy buen Nemorino y al sábado esta haciendo muecas de dolor intentando golpear un agudo en los cuentos de Hoffman.
Magnificent great Corelli!
@@thaiselizondo-cantanteboda8861 Se quedaron cortos. El título del video debería ser "Corelli y los perros aulladores"
Никто не сравнится с блестательным Франко Корелли! Божественный голос в прекрасном теле!❤❤❤
No question about it - Corelli was in a league all to himself - such an extraordinary talent that thrilled, and touched the heart, soul, and mind of those of us that had the great privilege of hearing him live or on recordings.
Corelli was gifted above anyone ese, probably. But it would have been more decent to praise hIm for his own value without the need to trash the others. About the title of the video. A SUPERB tenor.
Fare PARAGONI TRA CORELLI (MAßIMO TENOR EROICO DRAMATICO PER SEMPRE!)E JUAN DIEGO FLOREZ MASSIMO TENOR DI GRAZIE PER SEMRE E VILE BASSO COME UN PESSO LEGGERO E PESO MASSIMO. IL LORO REPERTORIO E TALMENTE TOTALMENTE DIVERSO. IO AMO PIU DI TUTTO IL BELCANTO E IN PIU DI 60 ANNI NESSUN MI SODDISFACEVA!!!JUAN DIEGO FLOREZ MI PORTA IN PARADISO CON SUA UNIVA VOCE E BELLEZZA APOLLINARIA TECHNICHA AUTOCRITICA COME MAI NESSUN CANTANTE NE SARA UN ALTRO. ORA DA 25 ANNI . CERTO LEGGE DIVINA HA 48 ANNI E LAVORA PIU MA SEMPRE UNICO.PERFETTO DIVINO!!!MARTA BEATRICE DARDAY
Well, but Kaufmann really sucks.
These comparisons are not to trash the singers but to demonstrate the insufficient techniques displayed by them in addition to show that they are lyric tenors punching above their weights.
@@UranusRising No, it is pretty obvious that this video was meant to trash other singers.
Meraviglioso ed immortale Compaesano Franco Corelli orgoglio italiano delle Marche.
Se puede reconocer la bella voz de Franco Corelli,sin hacer comparaciones de valoración para los otros maravillosos tenores.