War Thunder Spitfire Mk24 Max Uptier | Jet Matchup
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0:00 - Pros and Cons
0:34 - Fighting
11:50 - Thanks for Watching!
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-95% prop pitch
-30% radiators (cold map)
The best Spitfire! Or is it? (It is). Anyway, even though it's a prop, it has a BR rivaling jets, and it looks like its BR will increase further. Therefore, if you want to learn to fly it, you should learn how to fight jets in it. That's part of what this video is about. Enjoy!
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I always thought that there was something wrong with the red grid square thing, in some matches, I couldn't find where the enemy was when I was in the red grid square. Thanks for clearing it up.
Yeah, it's correct most of the time in my experience though. Just don't trust it 100%.
@@AdamTheEnginerd I believe it updates every few minutes. I know it doesn’t change for a while if they leave the square
I think if he zoomed in with the map it would have been accurate. I noticed one match with the square that it was completely inaccurate and I zoomed in a bit and the square changed to a completely different location.
@@xSupra Interesting...
Maybe they are above you or below you or sometime is just that IL2
Looks like you were so good they are now moving it to 7.0
We finally reached such high levels of compression that prop fighters will play against AAM-equipped jets (This Spitfire, 7.0, vs the German premium Sea Hawk Mk.100, 8.0)
It would be facing jets with early heat seeking missiles which means those jets probably would not be able to lock on to the spitfire mk.24 since its engine is in the front and doesn’t give off as much heat as a jet engine. To get a lock you’d have to be super close making it easy for the spitfire mk.24 to dodge.
@@CyberRelic280 Not to mention that the first air to air missiles are absolute shit.
That's really funny.
@@gsilvy4k570 Except the real problem is that the F89B and D are getting put down to 7.3, Both climb better than the Spit, one has better guns, the other can just BnZ you with rockets.
Defyn Glitched X and Jay Black have played the CL13 Mk4 so much that they moved it from 8.3 to 9.0 LMAO
Two more patches and it’ll meet mig-21s in battle! Can’t wait)))
Lol that'd be funny.
@@AdamTheEnginerd no it wouldn’t
You will regreat
This aged incredibly well.
Man it shows how dedicated this guy is to his channel and fans since he replies to everybody who comments, Good work Adam keep it up!
Thanks for the support!
@@AdamTheEnginerdWhere are you???
*In an 8.0*
*can either see spitfires or MiG-21s in the next patch*
Yup.
That's the position of the me262's now lol, I can believe the mk24 is actually going to 7.0
Gaijin:Props fighting Su-11 and F-89?
I see no problem
Yeah...
Compression above 7.0 is so bad that I'm now just having fun grinding out France rank III, the P-63C-5 is great fun with upgrades!
Yeah, on some maps the coordinates are bugged, just zoom in a notch to reset them correctly. The red square will also move.
That the reason?
@@AdamTheEnginerd Yeah he's right. No idea how this bug came about but zooming in at least one notch fixes it.
Damn bro, those are some balls of steel to enter Jet airspace with high repair cost prop plane. Kudos
Haha well I don't care about the repair cost part.
@@AdamTheEnginerd Must be nice
Honestly I find the Mk 24 to be more fun fighting jets than fighting props. Prop fights tend to get kind of same-y since there are so few things that can really compete with you, but with jets the situation can change so rapidly even in a 1v1 that you have to constantly adapt your tactics. It's also surprisingly doable given the performance difference, honestly the hardest part is knowing how much you need to lead a given target, since jet speeds can get kind of deceptive sometimes.
That's a rare opinion. I see your point.
I'm glad you're not one of those youtubers that solely flies jets and max B.R planes, it's refreshing to see
Yeah it's not my cup of milk. I get a lot of requests for high tier jets, but I always say that it's unlikely I'll cover them.
I can't wait to fight 8.0s in this thing next patch
Yeah I disagree with that change haha.
OMG you finally made a vid on the mk24! Thanks Adam, I was so eager to see how you play it really. Keep up the awesome work brother!
My pleasure!
This is exactly the video I went looking in the internet the moment I knew it was going to be the ONLY prop at 7.0
And you delivered lol
And there are people agreeing with it going to 7.0, saying that it is still way OP for it's BR XD
well if you didn't realise the A2D-1 is now gonna be 8.0 or 9.0 on arcade and people think the mk24 is getting it bad
I haven't seen anyone agree about it going to 7.0, but I haven't looked elsewhere than my Discord server and my comments section.
@@AdamTheEnginerd i agree with it as im a spitfire main and know how good it actually is
@@AdamTheEnginerd there's a lot of people in the forums
Keep up the good work, always excited to see more videos!
Thanks! Will do!
8:11 that looked and sounded brutal
I love flying the mk24. It just flies like a dream.
Gotta request some 190 A-5/U-2 to you again. I'd love to see what your take is on it
On my list!
Why use the 190 A-5/U-12 when you can use the U-2... 2 20mm 151s with plenty of ammo is sufficient firepower, better performance all round compared to all other antons, and then .3 br lower than all other a-5s seems like a good deal to me.
And oh yeah the U-2 is my most played plane, love it. Although at that br the allied teams seems to crumble quick making it into a game of "who can quickly get the kills before there's none left."
@@maxthehack9072 idk back when I played in 2013 the U-12 was the one with 2 151s so I just call it the U-12
@@ZorgonKiloEchoLima stock U12 has only 2 151's but can carry gunpods adding 4 more, U2 only has 2 151's and no gunpods
yeah, 6 mg 151's on a fw 190 lmao
@@ZorgonKiloEchoLima The U-12 has 2 MG 17 7.62mm MG's extra for a 0.4 BR increase.
It's a shitty trade off if you don't want to use the gun pods.
The only reason to play something other than the U-2 in that BR range is the high repair cost of the U-2.
Very enjoyable watch, thanks for making!
My pleasure!
Been almost a year. We miss you, bud...
Confusion of the highest Order t-shirts when?
HAHA! That is tempting ngl.
Just found this channel incredibly smart flying you make this game look easy lol hope to see another upload soon
babe wake up, new adam514 video just dropped
Set your alarms!
Be prepared for the confusion of the highest order jokes…
Lmao I couldn't have chosen a better text to repeat though.
@@AdamTheEnginerd It was tremendous. It is now officially a meme.
*_“Sometimes the greatest way to say something, is to say nothing at all”-Chris Stapleton & JT_*
What are you referencing?
@@AdamTheEnginerd I’m referencing a lyric from a song called say something by Justin Timberlake ft. Chris Stapleton. What I’m actually trying to say is that you’re the only good YT pilot who doesn’t talk in his videos. I learn a lot more from your videos because I’m not distracted by your voice. I can just watch and read and learn. Another great video Ads!
Confusion of the highest order thanks for watching! Also great vid btw
Hahaha thanks!
I would call a match like this impossible. Impressive Video as always!
Thanks!
Love the spitfire and your channel, your explanations have made me improve a lot! Keep it up man you are doing great!
Glad you love them!
Been waiting on this plane
Not the only one.
Good SA and marksmanship create this 5 kills game.
gg Adam
Good game!
Finally i can finish watching this video the way it was intended
Yup!
Love the content man! I'd love to see a video on the La-9 in the Chinese tech tree!
Thanks for the support!
It's on my list!
I find it so cool this prop is this good. Its like a ufo how it flies
It's pleasant, but slow compared to what it faces.
i love this, im following u now
Welcome!
Lovely Plane although when playing it on hot maps like Sicily the engine overheats badly when using WEP.
Also they moved the Mk22 Spitfire to the same BR as this thing.
Not much sense in playing it over the MK 24 anymore.
Mk24 is going to 7.0 in the next patch according to the forums.
@@AdamTheEnginerd That does tell you how much of a super prop this plane is.
I don't see them often
And often those flying em don't know how to fly em well.
@@lordulberthellblaze6509 I still think its kinda absurd to see the La 200 in that thing. And 8.0 will have even more stuff that's just impossible to fight in a prop. 7.0 could have been fine without the insane BR compression, but for now I'm sure the MK24 will join the F7F and Me262 in the "can't play because of power-creep" camp.
@@lordulberthellblaze6509 the p51h is more suitable for 7.0 than the mk24 lol, especially since it can keep 900 ias after a dive for longer time (and I mean A LOT more time) and has a 740kmh sea level speed
@@kingghidorah8106 P-51H Top speed is 678 km/h at sea level, not 740.
In fact, the A2D-1 is the only prop (turboprop in this case) in game faster than 700 km/h at sea level. It reaches 734 km/h.
Numbers taken from the top speed spreadsheet in the video's description.
I Was the La-200 in Dacii clan and my friend with f-80.It was a nice game
Good game!
dang didnt expect you to keep up on that last dive
F80 dodging helped.
Nice video Adam, always been kinda interested in late-war Spits, but I'm too lazy to get that far in the Bri'ish tree lol.
Also, that A21 around 3:12 was most likely slow because it's probably one of the worst early jets when it comes to speed. It can easily rip in a straight line when spaded and has a lower top speed/rips earlier than your Spitfire lmao. It's not a terrible plane, but I just stick to the SK60, even with the nerfs.
Well he's faster than me and yet I was faster than him and he wasn't fighting anyone.
Excellent!
Thanks!
HOORAAAY A SPITFIRE, thanks adam :>
My pleasure!
Confusion of da highest Order.
Thanks for watching!
Lmao that's gonna be a classic.
There is nothing, Repeat Nothing so sweet in War Thunder than bringing down a Jet with the Spit 24!
Hmm it's up there yeah.
Good job!
Thanks!
That grid square bug has been a problem for months and its so annoying. If im trying to clutch a match i would like to know where the last guy is, not the general location that is the size of canada
Lmao nice.
Amazing video!! Do you have a keybind setup video?
just a quick tip for any su-11s you meet: disengage.
by the way, su-11s are su-9s with a better and stronger wing structure and new, much better engines
their acceleration is *so fast* and energy retention is *so good* that turnfights won't work.
head ons will not work. they have 2x 23mm cannons and 1x 37mm cannon.
trying to outrun them = death. they acceleration is one of the best at the br. I have outran many planes before.
It's achilles heel:
against good players - nothing. disengage
against average players - try to make him overshoot (without dying) and use that small window of opportunity to kill him
against bad players - mommys credit card won't save them lol just try and outturn them because they'll most likely engage flaps, 0% throttle etc etc
Didn't know, thanks.
@@AdamTheEnginerd :D repond
Hey Adam, love the vids! binge watching them has helped massively in learning fighter gameplay, if you have it could you do a video on the french yak-3? its an odd plane with insane climb but awful high altitude performance, i really enjoyed getting my head around it
Thanks for the support!
I have a video on the Yak3P. Might do Yak3 eventually.
@@AdamTheEnginerd yak3u is impressivly good
Nice gameplay my dud! Unfortunately I've stopped playing war thunder cus of new graphics and pc performance issues, heh
Thanks! WT doesn't require much to run though.
That bug is a fan favourite. You can change the zoom and then it gets fixed. It's been like that since like forever, but since Gaijin doesn't play their own game...
Yeah learned about the zoom trick by reading the comments on this video.
Would love to see more high BR prop planes go up against jets
As in videos of that, or in game?
@@AdamTheEnginerd oh in game
This little one(the mk.24) is very fierce
Yup.
Impressed that you pulled so many kills off, its in a ludicrous BR range now. Have you considered making a video on Britain's other badly overtiered plane, the Vampire?
Hmm probably not gonna play the Vampire anytime soon.
@@AdamTheEnginerd thats cool, will watch whatever you make either way :)
This is how majority of zeros are going to be once they get up Br'ed and the only advantage they're going to have is the ability to turn they wont be able to catch any planes in the upcoming br changes
Yeah I disagree with that change.
A prop against swept wing jets! What a time to be alive.
Lol yup.
The bearcat is a beast for the reason you showed as well. Get 2-3 kills in it every game, sometimes more.
Early Jets seem to be blind and furball on the silliest targets.
Joining the slaughter means getting easy kills, but that’s also doable in another jet.
So Gaijin, if you are listening. Just uptier the entire game. Not just the spitfire
Lol nice solution.
what an ace
I'd love some p-47 gameplay
I've got some good videos on them already, you should check them out.
Nice video as always, btw can you try and play both me163's would be nice to see. Thanks
Thanks!
Eh I'm staying away from jets that aren't starter jets for now though.
@@AdamTheEnginerd that's totally understandable especially nowadays where jet gameplay above 7.0 is a mess
Nice. The BR raise is justified )))
Of course ;).
love u adam
:))).
Yeeeee
Adam, the sole reason the Mk. 24 is going to be 7.0 in the next BR patch 😭
Haha I didn't play it enough for that.
Do you use Mec? Also what range do you set your gun targeting distance to?
Awsome video 🤠👍
Using this plane on lower br is like living the dream
Yeah max downtier is nice.
Sensational video. Was really on the edge of my seat the whole time.
Goood.
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A man with purpose, thank you.
Hi Adam! I know bombers aren't your thing (they aren't mine either), but I'd really want to see you take the B7A2 out for a game or two, as it's quite capable as a dogfighter. I saw a video of yours where you flew the Ar-234 C-3, and I think similar, if not better results could be achieved with the B7A2.
It's on my list!
@@AdamTheEnginerd awesome mate!
Always been great aircraft i Always get 3 to 5 kills even in jet matches with this thing
That's great.
I've also encountered that grid square bug.
Not my first time either.
Talking about a bug.. i have a match 1 week ago where there's almost no radar.. my team are facing a sun (that shine brighter than i remember) on a snowy map.. i was confused when i see big shadow but no distance even until i get close to shooting distance.. the radar doesnt fixes itself even when we face opposite way.. i asked my mates if they feel the same, and they did. strange match but it was fun
Hmm I've never seen that.
I’ll throw in another request for the F86 F25 or F35 Sabre :)
Eh unlikely sorry :).
Adam come back we miss you!
Had brit done for a while and just noticed this thing is *7.0* woweewa - here I am thinking props should cap at 5.7.
U got my sub
Welcome!
Confusion of the highest order!
Thanks for watching!
Hahaha :).
Adam my mentor, may you do a video on the up to date video on P47N? Im good in the D variants but the N variant is really weird to me. Maybe the worse elevator authority? Doubt that's what's throwing me off though cause I use the Dora 13 all the time. Just something to think about. If you don't want to make a video then could you just tell me what you think here when you get the time? Also great video as always man keep it up!
It's the worse climb of the N most likely. It's on my list! But the D28 is much better than the N, no need to force yourself to fly the N.
@@AdamTheEnginerd thanks man! Exactly what I was wondering.
Yeah that grid bug is there for some time now. I usually try to look into other grids but as you have 8 to choose from it can get pretty annoying. 👀
Apparently zooming in fixes the bug.
Can I recommend playing the Typhoon mk1b/L again 3 years on from your last video? I'm really enjoying it, sideclimb at 280kph IAS, switch supercharger gear at 2700, radiator to 40% and it never overheats. Really fast in a shallow dive too and turns great.
Yup it's on my list!
it still baffles me how many jets are willing to turnfight and try to get low and slow with the best spitfire in the game.
Enjoy these slightly more sensible matchups, before the thing goes to 7.0...probably due to the ridiculously high quantity of early jet pilots who somehow play through 4 ranks of props only to forget what props are good at.
Aaaand i see they still haven't fixed that red square bug either :P
There weren't that many in this match, a decent amount of enemies rightfully extended away.
Apparently the bug can be fixed by zooming in on the map.
Wow I had no idea this thing faced LA-200’s that’s absolutely absurd.
Yeah, and it's going up.
Mk.24: will go to 7.0 soon.
P-51H: haha my club stick go ham.
What a joke.
Club stick go ham?
@@AdamTheEnginerd Oh, i mean P51 H is 6.3 right? and that thing will out perform every prop driven aircraft, if play it right is basically untouchable. Even mk24 and p51 h is sit at the 6.3 br i would still pick p 51h, it's just a better plane overalls imo.
@@Zelectrocutica it has 10 min wep, I have no problems killing it everytime in ta152h or yak 3u neither the mk24
And it’s now facing the me 163 and ki 200 gaijin’s balancing at its finest.
Yup.
I think there's a little lag in the highlighted grid square for one person left, and maybe some innacuracy in plane position reporting as well.
There is lag, but the grid lit up when the enemy was never there. Apparently zooming in on the map fixes the bug.
@@AdamTheEnginerd good to know thanks
Confusion of the highest order XD watching this when it came out I was genuinely confused XD still a great video on the spitty thank you again Adam now I wait patiently for a Yak-23 video usu
Hahaha that was a funny event.
Thanks!
I use this Spitfire in sim mode quite often. Darent go above BR6.3 games in it as it is badly outpaced by the jets in 6.7 and 7.0.
In your opinion is the MK 24 the most powerful prop in the game ?, a video about P-51H Vs MK24 would be interesting i think.
Spitfire is slower at low alt, as long as the 51H runs at low alt Spit won't kill it
Take the fight higher and the Spit will close the speed gap
Any attempt at a dogfight is a win for the Spit
That's it basically
Tempest MKII, F2G, P51-H, even a 109 K4 is faster. If u know how to use this advantage is easy to defeat the MK24.
Mk24 is easier to fly, I'd say P51H is better though.
@@nando_br nope, Mk-24 is only slower than those planes at sea level, except for the K-4 which is slightly slower than the 24 at that alt.
Only time the K-4 could be faster is at 4k where the Spit's supercharger gear switches, but even then the Spit outclimbs the K-4
Idk why you're mentioning the Tempest, those will be on the same team anyway
@@AdamTheEnginerd for 8 mins haha
Confusion of the highest order
Thanks for watching!
Haha!
I’ve had that problem with the square not being accurate and I’ve found that the location of it changes if you zoom in on the map, although I haven’t played in a few months so maybe this bug is different
Yeah learned that from the comments in the video.
Hi, adam can you play the SB2C with gun pods or P51C? Thanks!
Both are on my list!
my fun jet was ho229 its really slow but great maneuverability, still its mm got changed to 7.3 I stoped playing it because it was really too slow
It's not slow, it's average.
11:50 I noticed the other day that the square when it's completely zoomed out is wrong. If you zoomed in slightly, the square would be accurate.
Yeah someone said that in the comments.
Zoom into the map when you're not sure the square is saying the truth. Works for me, it suddenly switches to another square when you zoom in.
Yeah I learned that from this video's comments, thanks.
i miss you adam ,hope ur doing alright
Hi Adam try F3D sky knight the br has been lowered a lot. Its a monster with 4 20mm and jets in down tier.
Oh? Not 7.0?
@@AdamTheEnginerd 7.0 is pretty low compared to f2h that got 8.0 for being a non swept wing jet with 4 20mm. As for the br I think it used to be 8.0 before 2 patch or so ago.
F3D faces a lot of premium A2D. And plenty of 6.0-6.7 uptiered. While it faces other jets the center 4x20mm more than makes up for it imo. You can also turn fight in a pinch with the dummy thick airbrake.
Give it a consideration for one. I wanna see what you can do with it.
Can u do a video on the p47 d22re; I kinda struggle with it; it’s not really that fast in my experience… or do one on the p51 d5 pls
Both are on my list!
How can i get the horse power readings on my screen? i only know the show map in browser method, but i dont want to tab out all the time...
Can you maybe make a refresher bud or smt on prop pitch? A lot of planes don’t have an auto setting and I’m not sure how to use it. It’s the only control that I still haven’t got down, I’ve even got mixture and stuff.
Hmm my general MEC video talks about prop pitch tips.
How do you see the back of you while still doing maneuvers?
Thanks
Can you do the j2m5, the premium one with 30mm cannons
Maybe!
Amazing how quickly you eat fuel with a griffon spit on WEP😬
Yup, gotta load 30.
225 gallon/hr or hp is no joke, especially high octane ones
Whats the best nation for planes in your opinion? It could be the easiest to use, or the one you have had most success with. I am really indecisive and I swap inbetween nations, but I want to commit to one. Any thoughts?
Best to learn is likely UK, since their planes are a mix of everything. That's what I recommend when I teach new players the game.
I don't recommend committing to one nation though, I'd go through the 4-5 main nations relatively evenly so that you learn the strengths and weaknesses of what you're up against.
But I made such a useful comment on the other one...
Haha what was it?
@@AdamTheEnginerd I cannot remember, it was a stroke of inspiration that hit me after watching the previous confusingly useful version of this...I am old and my memory is not as useful as it once was...lolz
Hey Adam! long time no see, but would you mind giving the p47n-15 a look at again? it's down at 4.7 and I want to see how much it compares to the d-28.
It's on my list! D28 still better.