In the early 90's I became friends with the Sergeant-At-Arms of the local Pagans chapter. He told me what life was like in the club, the restrictions, the BS, the backstabbing. It damn sure isn't something I want to be part of.
Thanks Sose, for another insightful, informative talk. People need to know these things. I think you and my long time friend, a 16s chapter pres, would get along great. He's very smart, and has slot of common sense, not impulsive. Thanks again, 16s s
I have a theory that calling these people Brothers is the mistake. My blood brother is a pain in the a$$, and I often deal with his personal drama... so, why would I want adopted brothers? There's got to be a better word. When you take someone in as your brother, their personal problems become your problems. I want good friends to ride with. Not brothers.
It's great you show both sides. Some well-meaning person may want to find a bunch of guys to pal around with and share a love for the open road, but before long, they realize that they're not cut out for the life. They may end up hanging around longer than they should because they're hoping things might somehow turn around. What you featured is just the reality in some clubs. They should probably just stay on their own or just ride with some close friends. I always learn something new every episode.
My uncle was a Bandito, wore colors until the day he died of cancer. They hung around family gatherings and were always the first ones to offer a hand for anything. Even helped pay for his funeral. Curious what he would think of my career of law enforcement. I've had a handful of encounters with different clubs on the street, never bad. Just exchange waves, open up lanes for them while going through big wrecks and brief conversations at gas stations. The respect has always gone both ways, don't ask stupid questions, don't pry on business and don't act like billy badass. Had a super green rookie that was really close to having a bad day with a pack of banditios by asking questions he had no business asking.
A Bandito told me once long ago when I asked how to avoid trouble with MCs "Don't start shit, wont be shit". It's not 100% true, but is a pretty damn good outlook.
During Bike Week and Biketoberfest our club has wall to wall events in Tampa and Orlando from Friday afternoon thru Sunday evening, you can still get there during the week when it is slower but not during the hot times when the Clubs show up in force.
I'm not a club member, and I can both relate your #1 and also push back. There are times that we have different priorities as people, so what is important to me at the moment is irrelevant to you at the moment and vice-versa. Thank you again for sharing you perspectives, not only on club life, I feel these are life lessons also.
Great insight my guy.... these issues resonate with every club man... it's human nature to have these problems. But I try and look at the positive. 99% of my time spent with the club is a good time even though I may not want to go to an event.... like tomorrow for instance, I'm burning and turning up to Jersey and back. Gonna be a long day and I'm dreading it, but it'll be good to see bros I haven't seen in a month or so
Yeah, I’m really introverted. I’ll fuck with people, but they’re just such a pain in the ass so I choose to keep to myself. I don’t like dealing with all the drama & bullshit man lol
I am saying this on a non-political vid and ask that you and the brothers find a way to secure our elections. Get some on the inside to watch everything. All we want is a fair shake. A true vote of the people of the USA and who we want as our president. If they are let to count the votes behind closed doors....well, you know.
I grew up around color biker clubs and there is way too much drama in all of them. Not to mention all the drugs. Im clean and i want to stay that way. Peace to all.
You spiting straight truth brother till they ain't if you have and they want power money position side hustle they will do you dirt to take what you have!
BX bro, first off, sorry to hear about your dad. I understand the pain. Your videos always show the truth about the mc life. This is why I always have rode alone. I got enough drama in my life and I don’t need anybody else’s. And also that shirt you got on is fucking awesome.
I grew up around bikers my whole life, and both times I got married, it was to a bikers daughter. But I’ve never felt the need to join a club myself. I’ve got all the friends and loved ones I want, and have no need to grant anyone any kind of authority over me. I’ve hung out with 1%’s before, and they’re just people to me. Some good, some bad, but for the most part if you just be respectful, you’ll never have any issues. And that goes for pretty much everyone you’ll ever meet.
First 3 seasons are real good. The show falls off after that. Opie was a character that should have been killed off sooner. He brought nothing to the show after getting revenge.
This represents most organizations that include human beings. I learned a couple of great lessons from an old pastor of mine that fit well here. Lesson 1. You have exactly 30 seconds to be offended. After that, it’s time to get on with business. When people get offended, it’s not because the other person was offensive. It’s because they chose to get offended. There’s no room for that shit. Lesson 2. The minute someone starts bringing up shit about another person, you stop the conversation and go and get that other person. That stops 90 percent of the backstabbing. The other ten percent probably represents real issues that matter, and can be taken up with the people involved and some officers if need be. Those are the main things I take with me when I’m with my MO brothers and sisters. I’m there for the cause, and to be a part of adding strength to a great organization. The day I can’t follow either of those lessons, I’m out, because I’ve obviously lost the heart to be there for the right reason. These are hard things to do, and can cause you to be looked at as an outsider by some. But that’s fine with me, because people know not to tell me things about other people that will drag me into a bunch of shit I don’t need
I commend and respect the ones who become a club or 1% member. A lot of time and sacrifices made to get the results they are looking for. I ride alone by choice, but you should understand the road rules when you see a 3 piece vest. Ride safe, be smart. THE ROW FOR LIFE.
If you can stay outta politics, stay away from disagreeing with people, stay loyal, realize you’re a part of a family and all families have hardships, don’t be scared to speak up, don’t take sides outside of your own convictions, control your dick, don’t let greed get to you, appreciate what loyalty can bring, have your own lane that you take serious enough to get ahead, be prepared to share what you earn because you are your brothers keeper through thick and thin, pay no mind to anything other than your collective goals on top of what you got going on for yourself, don’t pocket watch, don’t numbers watch… you good.
Damn when i ride with others i find myself stressed out if the riders i ride with can deal with the speed i go with or if they can deal with the change of weather or so, if they have enough gas etc. So i just ride alone mostly- no distractions, no stress, no music, no drama. Just me, the road, and the machine.
It does suck. I've been there in alot of those situations u talked about and yea its alot of boys in these MCs. They need to grow up and get back to basics. Luv the video good tool for these young bucks to know what to look for.
The reasons you have touched on is exactly why I've never been interested in even expressing interest in attempting to join a club. I get told where to be and what to do every working day of my life. While I admire those who can commit themselves to a club, I'll be damned if I'll live like that. I ride when and where and with whomever I choose. While also accepting and respecting the space of actual club members. If a club has something going on at a bar that I frequent and they don't want me around, I'll just say yall take it easy and go somewhere else. The mc world is theirs and I have nothing to offer it.
TY TY SAY IT LOUDER SOSE!! I'm so tired of certain ol ladies believing their is an unwritten heirchy. Wether it's their man's position, or she has been there longer, it's bad. Forgive me, but there are times I think there should be no property patches on women. The club should just let a brother decide if she can be at events or not....some of us get sick and tired of the female petty bs. Stay safe Sose, all my love and blessings to you❤
Only thing i like about some of the clubs in Detroit, is how they have open club night invite for riders for fundraisers BBQ's and raffles and the runs they put together for certain concerns that affect everyone like cancer and other reasons. They asked if you'd like to patch they never are pushy some of the guys are cool like the master mechanic for bikes and paint body guys that you can have work on your ride. But i am a solo guy i cannot commit because of my lifestyle and job. They see your face around and they are cool with you.
I don’t know if you will see this. But I am wondering what club you ride with or is that something you rather not say. If so I understand been enjoying your content keep it rolling.
Did the club thing and now just rolling independently with a select, small group. The small group are the true Brothers... when the SHTF those are the guys that were there. Can't say the same for my club "brothers".
what's good brother,ye,not in one but might be a support for one anyway yesterday after work gave my dear colleague Beatrice a ride home,3rd time i take her,she rly likes the bike rides now hehe,she even said she's thinking about learning to ride as well Gotta teach her one day
These are just some of the reasons why I keep an eye out MCs. Because they're cool to see out in the wild. But I just wanna be a good dad and ride, peacefully with my friends.
I've been around a couple of different clubs in Florida. I rode and I did what was needed or asked. But my having friends in a couple of other clubs caused me big issues. I was offered full colors for the big one. Not as a probie. But because I proved myself to the president himself. This was in the late 70's when Vietnam vets ruled the roost in church. I bowed out and glad I did. I'm still alive and free today because I did
Oh yeah I got a few chapter brothers that can read my face and I theirs. Sitting waiting to be heard and another brother gets recognized and says exactly what I was thinking.
Main rule of joining a 1% hang around, hang around some more, hang around more, analyze the club in a way that doesn't draw attention to you. This process can take up to years before you get the prospect rocker. Look at how prospects and veteran hang arounds operate and learn from them again not drawing attention to yourself. The vite to fully patch you in will not be known before but at a time youll least expect it. Before you do any of this please pkease understand the 1% culture.
i kinda agree wit no pictures no face no case! and with rico the most unconstitutional case law being pushed on bikers a picture can jam you up.. seems like a lot of these problems can be avoided if you got stand up brothers who enjoy being togethor and riding togethor
@@piercehawke8021 good point we get our picture taken hundreds of times just going to the local supermarket however when people post flicks of themselves or others with people its making a public statement it just makes law enforcements job too easy, like yea they might know me but now they're freakin sure
I don't club, but I I'm acquainted with people who do. I know of a situation where a patch was starting to maneuver against his P because of the P's ole lady. P knocked her off of her pedestal, and filed papers, to save his club. The patch starting to move against him became his most loyal supporter. Moral of the story: if mama ain't 💯 with you wearing a patch you better decide what's more important.
Hi DemonsRow first thing i enjoy all your videos and enjoy learning more and more every time i watch one. when i was younger i was told by a few old timers about the no women or children or innocents code and i would like to no your thoughts about it and if it's true code and how strong you feel about it
This is why the prospect process is so important, it takes time for the mental process to take place. It's not me, but we. Everything you do reflects on your brothers. The patch comes before any of your Nickle and dime bullshit.
My Uncle was a Hells Angel the one thing he didn't like, if one brother got caught up everyone had to go in on bailing them out and paying for an attorney.
I thank God that i never went that route, a few of my brother's did and we had a Crew in jail and ended up pretty tight with a couple of the 1% J.C (jail crews) but yeah never nommed and having brothers that have and hearing first hand some of the politics nah not for me.
I joined an LE MC but the national president founder and senior leaders were a bunch of freakin weirdo cops, focused on member numbers, money, and merchandising. I was glad to ride away from those clowns. I ride with local clubs or solo now. Much better.
#ghostin. I forseen this predicament before in choosing club family over blood family which would've caused a serious altercation. Why im still Lone Wolf to keep the peace.
I've never been in an MC, but have known people who are/were. From what I've heard from them, and from you, it sounds like being a member of an MC is like Newton's third law of physics: For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. If you don't have the permission of your MC for any action you take or make, you aren't going to have anyone backing you when the inevitable reaction catches up to your sorry a**. I once thought about joining an MC but I don't like politics and I like to be able to talk to (and not) who I choose. I decided it was better for me to not join any clubs. I know a lot of people in clubs that are like brothers to me but decided it wasn't for me.
I've never been in an MC, Ive never even owned a bike... However most of rules just seem like the stuff a man should know about respect that they learned from their fathers!
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In the early 90's I became friends with the Sergeant-At-Arms of the local Pagans chapter. He told me what life was like in the club, the restrictions, the BS, the backstabbing. It damn sure isn't something I want to be part of.
I had a hard time taking orders and would rather move around by myself and making my own decisions but I do also understand why people join
This is why I just ride solo or with two of my closest friends I trust my life with. My schedule my rules 🌴 🍻 💯
Thanks Sose, for another insightful, informative talk. People need to know these things. I think you and my long time friend, a 16s chapter pres, would get along great. He's very smart, and has slot of common sense, not impulsive. Thanks again, 16s s
my closest brother is a 16 pres
I prefer to just be on my own, represent myself.
Its the best club
exactly!!! ride safe, bro.
Reasons why I just ride alone on my own time and own ride
Smart
@@DemonsRow 😲 wow thanks for the reply, super awesome 😎 🔥🔥 🔥 Let's Go.
I ride alone as well as ride with friends. Just a small group of friends. No club, no members, just us enjoying the ride.
Yeah, like we really need more rules. Or to be next to bad riders who cross your sideline while riding in staggered formation. No, thanks.
Exactly
Been rocking with the row since the bed room/parking lot days. Keep up the great content.
Appreciate you
You be spitting facts brother!
I have a theory that calling these people Brothers is the mistake.
My blood brother is a pain in the a$$, and I often deal with his personal drama... so, why would I want adopted brothers? There's got to be a better word.
When you take someone in as your brother, their personal problems become your problems.
I want good friends to ride with. Not brothers.
Great perspective
Thanks for the insight, love your videos
Glad you like them! Thank you
It's great you show both sides. Some well-meaning person may want to find a bunch of guys to pal around with and share a love for the open road, but before long, they realize that they're not cut out for the life. They may end up hanging around longer than they should because they're hoping things might somehow turn around. What you featured is just the reality in some clubs. They should probably just stay on their own or just ride with some close friends. I always learn something new every episode.
Appreciate you
I love to ride whenever and wherever I want. Riding to me is a joy and I don’t want to deal with politics. #GHOSTIN!
#ghostin
Dont forget to smash that like my My Gs
Smashed it!
Done and done bro
#GHOSTIN
Done
My uncle was a Bandito, wore colors until the day he died of cancer. They hung around family gatherings and were always the first ones to offer a hand for anything. Even helped pay for his funeral. Curious what he would think of my career of law enforcement. I've had a handful of encounters with different clubs on the street, never bad. Just exchange waves, open up lanes for them while going through big wrecks and brief conversations at gas stations. The respect has always gone both ways, don't ask stupid questions, don't pry on business and don't act like billy badass. Had a super green rookie that was really close to having a bad day with a pack of banditios by asking questions he had no business asking.
A Bandito told me once long ago when I asked how to avoid trouble with MCs "Don't start shit, wont be shit". It's not 100% true, but is a pretty damn good outlook.
There is no T in BANDIDO
@@skin6988 There is an L.
Damn! You nailed a few points in this one!
Appreciate you
During Bike Week and Biketoberfest our club has wall to wall events in Tampa and Orlando from Friday afternoon thru Sunday evening, you can still get there during the week when it is slower but not during the hot times when the Clubs show up in force.
Essential information. Salute!
salute
I been checkin your channel for a bit Ghost. A lot of good stuff man. Appreciate you…
I'm not a club member, and I can both relate your #1 and also push back. There are times that we have different priorities as people, so what is important to me at the moment is irrelevant to you at the moment and vice-versa.
Thank you again for sharing you perspectives, not only on club life, I feel these are life lessons also.
Great insight my guy.... these issues resonate with every club man... it's human nature to have these problems. But I try and look at the positive. 99% of my time spent with the club is a good time even though I may not want to go to an event.... like tomorrow for instance, I'm burning and turning up to Jersey and back. Gonna be a long day and I'm dreading it, but it'll be good to see bros I haven't seen in a month or so
Ride safe
Much love and Respect Brother Sose, #ghostin
Much love brother
I'm from north east oklahoma and haven't really seen any clubs except for cop clubs. Your knowledge really helps when traveling.
Yeah, I’m really introverted. I’ll fuck with people, but they’re just such a pain in the ass so I choose to keep to myself. I don’t like dealing with all the drama & bullshit man lol
Love the vids. Been in the comments before. But I always wonder, what sort of law watches them too.
Sounds exhausting straight up.
I am saying this on a non-political vid and ask that you and the brothers find a way to secure our elections. Get some on the inside to watch everything. All we want is a fair shake. A true vote of the people of the USA and who we want as our president. If they are let to count the votes behind closed doors....well, you know.
I grew up around color biker clubs and there is way too much drama in all of them. Not to mention all the drugs. Im clean and i want to stay that way. Peace to all.
You spiting straight truth brother till they ain't if you have and they want power money position side hustle they will do you dirt to take what you have!
Well said. Spot on. More in the culture need to understand all of it.
I like to see you representing nz we a small country but big hearts. Love your content to
Appreciate you
Hey brother I've been invited to a ride and a club party what does it mean if they ask you turn up I all black?
Sose...
You are a Knowledge Factory...
TY for Your Hard Work...
God Bless
God bless i appreciate you
BX bro, first off, sorry to hear about your dad. I understand the pain. Your videos always show the truth about the mc life. This is why I always have rode alone. I got enough drama in my life and I don’t need anybody else’s. And also that shirt you got on is fucking awesome.
Appreciate you fir that brother
You hit the nail on the head with this video.
Appreciate you
good video about how some feel like sucks about being in a MC.
I grew up around bikers my whole life, and both times I got married, it was to a bikers daughter. But I’ve never felt the need to join a club myself. I’ve got all the friends and loved ones I want, and have no need to grant anyone any kind of authority over me. I’ve hung out with 1%’s before, and they’re just people to me. Some good, some bad, but for the most part if you just be respectful, you’ll never have any issues. And that goes for pretty much everyone you’ll ever meet.
56 years on this earth and I have never seen son's of anarchy
First 3 seasons are real good. The show falls off after that. Opie was a character that should have been killed off sooner. He brought nothing to the show after getting revenge.
Sose,where did you get that wicked cool shirt??? lovin it,bro
Vegas
At the thrift shop garbage can 😂
This represents most organizations that include human beings. I learned a couple of great lessons from an old pastor of mine that fit well here.
Lesson 1. You have exactly 30 seconds to be offended. After that, it’s time to get on with business. When people get offended, it’s not because the other person was offensive. It’s because they chose to get offended. There’s no room for that shit.
Lesson 2. The minute someone starts bringing up shit about another person, you stop the conversation and go and get that other person. That stops 90 percent of the backstabbing. The other ten percent probably represents real issues that matter, and can be taken up with the people involved and some officers if need be.
Those are the main things I take with me when I’m with my MO brothers and sisters. I’m there for the cause, and to be a part of adding strength to a great organization. The day I can’t follow either of those lessons, I’m out, because I’ve obviously lost the heart to be there for the right reason.
These are hard things to do, and can cause you to be looked at as an outsider by some. But that’s fine with me, because people know not to tell me things about other people that will drag me into a bunch of shit I don’t need
I commend and respect the ones who become a club or 1% member. A lot of time and sacrifices made to get the results they are looking for. I ride alone by choice, but you should understand the road rules when you see a 3 piece vest. Ride safe, be smart. THE ROW FOR LIFE.
And what road rules would those be?
Got your msg Sose & like a GOOD Prospect.... Told ONCE & NEVER forget ❗
#GHOSTIN
#ghostin salute tex
Truth has been spoken here.
Much respect
If you can stay outta politics, stay away from disagreeing with people, stay loyal, realize you’re a part of a family and all families have hardships, don’t be scared to speak up, don’t take sides outside of your own convictions, control your dick, don’t let greed get to you, appreciate what loyalty can bring, have your own lane that you take serious enough to get ahead, be prepared to share what you earn because you are your brothers keeper through thick and thin, pay no mind to anything other than your collective goals on top of what you got going on for yourself, don’t pocket watch, don’t numbers watch… you good.
Damn when i ride with others i find myself stressed out if the riders i ride with can deal with the speed i go with or if they can deal with the change of weather or so, if they have enough gas etc. So i just ride alone mostly- no distractions, no stress, no music, no drama. Just me, the road, and the machine.
Great video as always! And where can I get that shirt!??
I got it in vegas when i sat down with jr
#GHOSTIN , Great info. Thanks .
Appreciate you
Been there, done that.... Exactly Right, the Rules seem to be Guidelines instead of Rules for certain Members...
My Grandfather was a West Coast Diamond. Before he died, he got me to promise that I'd stay out of club life.
Great video. Dope cover !
Thanks did it a couple minutes befire i dropped
It does suck. I've been there in alot of those situations u talked about and yea its alot of boys in these MCs. They need to grow up and get back to basics. Luv the video good tool for these young bucks to know what to look for.
Yea itscrazy out here
Sounds like normal life with slightly higher consequences, awesome shirt
Thank you
It is why joining an Outlaw MC is very difficult nowadays everyone prefer to ride solo
Truth
The reasons you have touched on is exactly why I've never been interested in even expressing interest in attempting to join a club. I get told where to be and what to do every working day of my life. While I admire those who can commit themselves to a club, I'll be damned if I'll live like that. I ride when and where and with whomever I choose. While also accepting and respecting the space of actual club members. If a club has something going on at a bar that I frequent and they don't want me around, I'll just say yall take it easy and go somewhere else. The mc world is theirs and I have nothing to offer it.
Here in Venezuela everyone rides but no patches nothing like that. You never know who you could be messing with. Ride safe brothers
Good points.
I ride solo everywhere i go. No drama, no rush to get somewhere, and no arguments over where to stop for some food.
TY TY SAY IT LOUDER SOSE!! I'm so tired of certain ol ladies believing their is an unwritten heirchy. Wether it's their man's position, or she has been there longer, it's bad. Forgive me, but there are times I think there should be no property patches on women. The club should just let a brother decide if she can be at events or not....some of us get sick and tired of the female petty bs. Stay safe Sose, all my love and blessings to you❤
So true Dee much love always
Only thing i like about some of the clubs in Detroit, is how they have open club night invite for riders for fundraisers BBQ's and raffles and the runs they put together for certain concerns that affect everyone like cancer and other reasons. They asked if you'd like to patch they never are pushy some of the guys are cool like the master mechanic for bikes and paint body guys that you can have work on your ride. But i am a solo guy i cannot commit because of my lifestyle and job. They see your face around and they are cool with you.
Sounds familiar, the points you made apply to ALL lives and situations.
So basically how gangs work in most places around the world.
I don’t know if you will see this. But I am wondering what club you ride with or is that something you rather not say. If so I understand been enjoying your content keep it rolling.
Yo what’s the background song around 4:02? It’s sick. Thanks for the content
Years later that into still hits hard bro!
Appreciate you they told me i could get way more views if i let it go but i just cant lol
@@DemonsRow that’s a marker of success when they try to get you to change
Just seems like lots of rules and regulations for a group of guys that don't like rules and regulations. Guess I'll never understand.
This is so true I was a BANDIDO for five years
#Ghostin....Hoorah🦁☠
Hoorah
Did the club thing and now just rolling independently with a select, small group.
The small group are the true Brothers... when the SHTF those are the guys that were there. Can't say the same for my club "brothers".
what's good brother,ye,not in one but might be a support for one
anyway yesterday after work gave my dear colleague Beatrice a ride home,3rd time i take her,she rly likes the bike rides now hehe,she even said she's thinking about learning to ride as well
Gotta teach her one day
Whats good my brother
These are just some of the reasons why I keep an eye out MCs. Because they're cool to see out in the wild. But I just wanna be a good dad and ride, peacefully with my friends.
Brotherhood isn't automatic or instant....gotta build that with your BROTHERS.
TNGN!
I've been around a couple of different clubs in Florida.
I rode and I did what was needed or asked.
But my having friends in a couple of other clubs caused me big issues.
I was offered full colors for the big one.
Not as a probie.
But because I proved myself to the president himself.
This was in the late 70's when Vietnam vets ruled the roost in church.
I bowed out and glad I did.
I'm still alive and free today because I did
The rules change everyday.
Oh yeah I got a few chapter brothers that can read my face and I theirs. Sitting waiting to be heard and another brother gets recognized and says exactly what I was thinking.
Too many rules for being outlaws lol😂
The talker the politician
Love it. Top quality content as usual.
I appreciate you
For outlaws they sure have a fcuk ton of laws.
Lol
Main rule of joining a 1% hang around, hang around some more, hang around more, analyze the club in a way that doesn't draw attention to you. This process can take up to years before you get the prospect rocker. Look at how prospects and veteran hang arounds operate and learn from them again not drawing attention to yourself. The vite to fully patch you in will not be known before but at a time youll least expect it. Before you do any of this please pkease understand the 1% culture.
Sose putting it all on the table 💯
gotta save my young boys years of annoyance
@@DemonsRow man fo real bro. Much respect 🫡
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Ghostin!!!!
#ghostin
Getting down to some FACTS
Thats wild that a "president's" old lady can't tell a prospect what to do...
Im feeling that t-shirt Ghost.
Appreciate you
Live to ride Ride to live❤
Im from nz grew up around mcs u just showed a friemd of mines patch he was a chapter prez of the rebels in nz
Yep, you see that in the military all the time. The Shirt/Chief/CC's wife. 02:28
i kinda agree wit no pictures no face no case! and with rico the most unconstitutional case law being pushed on bikers a picture can jam you up.. seems like a lot of these problems can be avoided if you got stand up brothers who enjoy being togethor and riding togethor
Note that a Tesla has has multiple cameras from the factory so, the 'no pictures' rule needs to be modified IMHO
I agree
@@piercehawke8021 good point we get our picture taken hundreds of times just going to the local supermarket however when people post flicks of themselves or others with people its making a public statement it just makes law enforcements job too easy, like yea they might know me but now they're freakin sure
I don't club, but I I'm acquainted with people who do. I know of a situation where a patch was starting to maneuver against his P because of the P's ole lady.
P knocked her off of her pedestal, and filed papers, to save his club. The patch starting to move against him became his most loyal supporter.
Moral of the story: if mama ain't 💯 with you wearing a patch you better decide what's more important.
Hi DemonsRow first thing i enjoy all your videos and enjoy learning more and more every time i watch one. when i was younger i was told by a few old timers about the no women or children or innocents code and i would like to no your thoughts about it and if it's true code and how strong you feel about it
Ive seen women get stomped out. Not commonplace but ive seen it
@@DemonsRow wow. that would be a members old lady or a random person
This is why the prospect process is so important, it takes time for the mental process to take place. It's not me, but we. Everything you do reflects on your brothers. The patch comes before any of your Nickle and dime bullshit.
Truth
Sturgis is HA Rally Daytona is OL Rally PCB is a no fly zone
i'd just rather ride by myself go where i want when i want most of the time i don't even have a destination i just start riding and end up somewhere
I used to know a sgt at arms for The Banditos in Washington. To me he was cool but i could see coming into Portland Oregon was tough wo any back up.
My Uncle was a Hells Angel the one thing he didn't like, if one brother got caught up everyone had to go in on bailing them out and paying for an attorney.
I thank God that i never went that route, a few of my brother's did and we had a Crew in jail and ended up pretty tight with a couple of the 1% J.C (jail crews) but yeah never nommed and having brothers that have and hearing first hand some of the politics nah not for me.
I joined an LE MC but the national president founder and senior leaders were a bunch of freakin weirdo cops, focused on member numbers, money, and merchandising. I was glad to ride away from those clowns. I ride with local clubs or solo now. Much better.
Silly thing is that the LEO clubs wonna be OUTLAWS
15 years in club life and ran into all of your points.
I've run into these problems at every job I've worked at.
#ghostin. I forseen this predicament before in choosing club family over blood family which would've caused a serious altercation. Why im still Lone Wolf to keep the peace.
smart man
I've never been in an MC, but have known people who are/were. From what I've heard from them, and from you, it sounds like being a member of an MC is like Newton's third law of physics: For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. If you don't have the permission of your MC for any action you take or make, you aren't going to have anyone backing you when the inevitable reaction catches up to your sorry a**. I once thought about joining an MC but I don't like politics and I like to be able to talk to (and not) who I choose. I decided it was better for me to not join any clubs. I know a lot of people in clubs that are like brothers to me but decided it wasn't for me.
sounds about right
I've never been in an MC, Ive never even owned a bike... However most of rules just seem like the stuff a man should know about respect that they learned from their fathers!