The Saddest Robot on Earth (Can't Help Myself)

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  • Опубліковано 29 кві 2024
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    In late 2021, an art piece called "Can't Help Myself" went extremely viral. Today we'll talk about the piece and the controversial art duo behind it.
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    Timestamps:
    0:00 - Introduction
    1:20 - The Artists
    4:03 - Dogs That Cannot Touch Each Other
    6:23 - If I Pass Away
    7:53 - Can't Help Myself
    12:26 - The Robot Goes Viral
    16:30 - Conclusion

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  • @deburke321
    @deburke321  Рік тому +4440

    This has been the stressful video I've ever made, not because of the actual creative process but because of everything that happened during it. My editing software crashed and was unusable half way through, my account was then breached and my channel was then banned. Luckily I was able to get it back but safe the say it has not been a fun week.
    I then had to render this video 6 different times because it kept rendering incorrectly. Even now, it still has a couple of flaws, there is a couple of random pauses around 5 minutes in that are not intentional and I had a swanky intro that I had to edit out but all in all, this is the best version of the video I could get out and honestly it's only a couple of small mistakes so I'm alright with it.
    I'm still happy with the actual video, but I'm much happier to have it released and to just have this weird chapter of the channel put behind me. Hopefully it's smooth sailing for the rest of the year.
    In case some weird nonsense happens again I recommend following me over on Twitter (Deburke321), I don't use it much but I used it a lot during this ordeal and it was actually a very handy tool to get the message out. I'll see you guys soon regardless, much love ❤

    • @ke_neil_we
      @ke_neil_we Рік тому +21

      Is this posted Friday 31 March 2023? Feeling like I might have crossed timeliness

    • @Ghostman223
      @Ghostman223 Рік тому +4

      ​@@ke_neil_wedates are in video descriptions

    • @ke_neil_we
      @ke_neil_we Рік тому +5

      @@Ghostman223 I know. But time travelling is weird, so I know what I'm asking sounds strange.

    • @Ghostman223
      @Ghostman223 Рік тому +9

      ​@@ke_neil_wetime traveling doesn't exist yet?

    • @ke_neil_we
      @ke_neil_we Рік тому +4

      @@Ghostman223 it does, in Time-Space, not Space-time 😉 there's more to it than it may sound.

  • @kristopherguilbault5428
    @kristopherguilbault5428 Рік тому +4676

    I completely got this exhibit wrong ...i thought that the liquid was the oil that it utilized and when the oil disappeared eventually it died. And it was almost like it was bleeding and trying to stay alive by shoveling it back to itself

    • @ladylark10884
      @ladylark10884 Рік тому +619

      i don't think your interpretation is wrong per se! just different :>

    • @lounirs
      @lounirs Рік тому +229

      I've seen many people online thinking the same thing

    • @doindaworst5824
      @doindaworst5824 Рік тому +409

      Oh interesting. The repetitive action is taken in a literal sense of desperately scooping your life physically back into your body. Imagine if it were a human with this interpretation instead of robot. Very interesting if not chilling.

    • @Asaspecimenyesimextraoddinary
      @Asaspecimenyesimextraoddinary Рік тому +61

      @@doindaworst5824 morbid but fascinating

    • @cynxmanga
      @cynxmanga Рік тому +33

      I like this interpretation

  • @huldrrrr9486
    @huldrrrr9486 Рік тому +9583

    Even though it wasn't the artist's intention, the first thing that popped into my mind when I saw this was OCD and coercive actions. This robot being forced to repeat this endless task for years on end due to it's very own "nature", getting increasingly worn out and desperate, was pretty relatable to me...

    • @doindaworst5824
      @doindaworst5824 Рік тому +227

      I clicked on the video after seeing the little preview because I have ocpd and the older I've gotten the worse I've gotten with coping. I've had to stop working due to many psychotic breaks and I'm only 30... This robot made me very emotional.

    • @bridghamgray
      @bridghamgray Рік тому +29

      And thats what should matter

    • @huldrrrr9486
      @huldrrrr9486 Рік тому +72

      @@doindaworst5824 I'm so sorry you have to go through that, all my best wishes

    • @LushiaKyobi
      @LushiaKyobi Рік тому +37

      I have OCD and that's exactly how it feels.

    • @seb1520
      @seb1520 Рік тому +41

      I like your interpretation a lot, I personally saw it as how machines are in a perpetual state of replacing humans and are “cleaning up” after us. It’s honestly an incredibly morbid piece

  • @S0FIATH3CL0WN
    @S0FIATH3CL0WN Рік тому +690

    I always saw it as representing someone with severe depression trying to keep themself together, and to keep hope in a way. I got this from the exhaustion and the bloodlike fluid color. It made me see the shutoff of the robot as the person finally losing hope and killing themself

    • @skylarpeterson8798
      @skylarpeterson8798 10 місяців тому +8

      Yo I got a whole new image of that

    • @Hand-to-handWombatCombat
      @Hand-to-handWombatCombat 10 місяців тому +23

      Same, although I see the shutoff more like a death caused by some other cause, like a car crash.

    • @cheezicow8948
      @cheezicow8948 7 місяців тому +10

      Yes! thats how i saw it too. a person struggling so hard to keep things tidy, that in the end they make more of a mess and wear themself out.

    • @Sawrunner.
      @Sawrunner. 6 місяців тому +1

      🗿

    • @rickwilliams967
      @rickwilliams967 Місяць тому

      Except the robots will kill us instead

  • @extrathings3981
    @extrathings3981 9 місяців тому +213

    Sisyphus in robot form.
    The constant cleaning was enough to complete the programming. One must imagine it happy.

    • @SantiagoNguyen-vk3fo
      @SantiagoNguyen-vk3fo 6 місяців тому

      Nah Sisyphus fights the beast🗿

    • @Mestregugs536
      @Mestregugs536 4 місяці тому

      One must imagine "Cant help myself" cleaning all the liquid

    • @childeofepickness
      @childeofepickness 2 місяці тому +5

      One must imagine Can’t Help Myself happy…

  • @srbrant5391
    @srbrant5391 Рік тому +10005

    This is an SCP waiting to happen.

  • @DubYuhGChoppa
    @DubYuhGChoppa Рік тому +4927

    The saddest robot is the one that hacked your channel the other day 💀💀

    • @PEPPERslim_
      @PEPPERslim_ Рік тому +125

      Im sorry i thought itd be funny, it was a goof my guy

    • @cutecatsara123
      @cutecatsara123 Рік тому +11

      Oof

    • @Juuulpod
      @Juuulpod Рік тому +8

      😂

    • @GumbyGoons
      @GumbyGoons Рік тому +5

      @PEPPERslim were you actually the one who did it?

    • @stormah
      @stormah Рік тому +19

      @@GumbyGoons probably not

  • @saberfang6329
    @saberfang6329 11 місяців тому +445

    I’ve seen that robot on tik tok and hearing the screeching on the unoiled metal broke my heart. I may have never got to see it in person but it will never be forgotten. That Robot didn’t want to give up on trying. It kept trying till the end. I can have a lot of meaning even for people who struggle with depression

    • @saberfang6329
      @saberfang6329 11 місяців тому +12

      And I know I could be wrong on the meaning but I feel like it could have multiple meanings

    • @grovecitysirens_GCS
      @grovecitysirens_GCS 8 місяців тому +14

      The screeching is actually just the motors. The motors aren't screeching but its just their motor sound

    • @2fingacriminal
      @2fingacriminal 8 місяців тому +8

      its a robot dude

    • @Cyyruzz
      @Cyyruzz 8 місяців тому +7

      @2fingacriminal it's a piece of interpretative art.

    • @Royce1982
      @Royce1982 8 місяців тому +1

      😂😂😂

  • @jeni4288
    @jeni4288 4 місяці тому +57

    What truly pisses me off to no end (as someone who lives with a beautiful and chill corn snake) is how everyone is so angry over the dogs that were in no danger but almost no one bats an eyelash over the reptiles and crustaceans strung up and left to die. This is how things always are. The shit people tell me when I tell them I have a corn snake is ridiculous. If someone told me they had just gotten a new dog I wouldn’t tell them about how someone’s cousin’s uncle’s sister’s mother in law saw a dog in their yard earlier and beat it over the head until it died. Artistic my ass. Animal abuse is animal abuse.

    • @idontcare1102
      @idontcare1102 3 місяці тому +5

      exactly and justifying it as "art" is a cop-out

    • @Mukyuify
      @Mukyuify 3 місяці тому +3

      Both are bad

    • @darksoals
      @darksoals 2 місяці тому +4

      Yeah the curtain is disgusting and shows the artist has no regard or respect for life. Maybe that was the true artwork all along “vulgar demonstration of a budding psychopath”

    • @rubyy.7374
      @rubyy.7374 2 місяці тому +1

      @@darksoals​​⁠​⁠ Those kinds of animals are commonly consumed in East Asia. Unfortunately simply just “food” is how a non-negligible portion of the population sees them, particularly the older generations, and they don’t see them as anything more like with dogs or cats.
      This is an unfortunate symptom of a culture that had only “developed” recently, when killing anything that moved for your next meal only dates a few generations back. China, relative to Korea and Japan, is the new kid on the block, so there are many people still alive who think this way.
      Hopefully this outdated mindset continues going the way of the dodo for the sake of these poor critters.

    • @darksoals
      @darksoals 2 місяці тому +2

      @@rubyy.7374 I don’t know how valid of an excuse this is. Chickens are regarded as food here on a “lower value” to cats and dogs, but it would still be absolutely appalling to the community in North America to have a display where they were strung up alive as a curtain.
      In China there’s a lot of Buddhist culture which regards all life as equal and requests balance with nature to obtain enlightenment. I’m not exactly sure how they can get away with this since such a large part of the community is supposedly following Buddhism and Buddhist values. Which an artwork like this absolutely violates.
      This isn’t hunting for food. This is causing small animals painful and slow deaths for the artist and viewers amusement. It’s inhumane torture disguised as art and there is no cultural loophole for it.

  • @alexandredesouza3692
    @alexandredesouza3692 Рік тому +11002

    A tired robot, struggling to stay alive?
    A broken mind, picking up the pieces?
    An authoritarian state, trying to stop the bloody truth from escaping?
    A labored worker, dying of monotony?
    A machine preserving spoiled blood of its owner?
    Or doomed to do so, and fail?
    Does it replace a janitor, factory worker or a guardsman, a superfluous job or nothing at all?
    Or perhaps, something entirely different?

    • @failsafe-ready_circuit
      @failsafe-ready_circuit Рік тому

      "A tired robot, struggling to stay alive."
      Im just surviving in this society.
      "A broken mind, picking up pieces."
      I seem forgetful whatever I daydream.
      "An authoritarian state, trying to stop the bloody truth from escaping."
      I tried to lie because I was scared.
      "Or doomed to do so, and fail?"
      If I kill a person, His/her friends and family are involved. if I killed His/her family, The community is involved. if I destroyed the community, The Police is involved until I reached the level where the World's Governments are trying to wipe me out.

    • @failsafe-ready_circuit
      @failsafe-ready_circuit Рік тому +92

      I just can't, You wouldn't understand.

    • @alexandredesouza3692
      @alexandredesouza3692 Рік тому +81

      @@redfo3009 Thank you!

    • @lemon-414
      @lemon-414 Рік тому +12

      no :>

    • @kr1tikalh1t92
      @kr1tikalh1t92 Рік тому +111

      Since when did you turn into Shakespeare?

  • @_foxpuppet
    @_foxpuppet Рік тому +5640

    I was lucky enough to see Old People's Home in person, and it was amazing. The chairs had sensors to keep them from running into each other or anyone viewing so you could walk among them. Watching these old men blunder around mindlessly, making it awkward to navigate the space they occupied, was very powerful to witness.

  • @EPE77U
    @EPE77U 10 місяців тому +118

    When I first saw about this robot and it being "the saddest robot", my first honest reaction was that red liquid is supposed to be blood and this robot's job is to clean crime/accident scene which feels like pretty sad job to have. It's interesting how many different interpretations can this art piece cause

    • @Foxy02016
      @Foxy02016 3 місяці тому

      For me it’s war. The endless bloodshed, blood being replaced with more blood as lives are lost in a war that is going to end how it was always going to end, by sitting down and talking. It will ALWAYS end with the two sides talking, it’s just about the amount of lives taken in the time before it

    • @EPE77U
      @EPE77U 2 місяці тому

      @@matos.3398 Different interpretation is now considered being slow? At least my head isn't growing a dick

  • @wumbumbaroo404
    @wumbumbaroo404 9 місяців тому +71

    The thing that strikes me the most is the fact the fluid looks a ton like hydraulic fluid which would be the fluid that normally allows a robot like that to move. Now im not sure if that’s what the fluid is or even if that type of robot uses it, but imagining if that robot had a leak and is frantically trying to push it all into a pile to where it can still use it makes it a hundred times more grim too me.

    • @6764TLM
      @6764TLM 4 місяці тому +1

      The robot ran on electricity

    • @Justin.P
      @Justin.P 3 місяці тому

      That's what I thought was trying to be conveyed at first also, whether it actually is or isn't, that's how I choose to see it and hits hard emotionally.

  • @vespan.a4839
    @vespan.a4839 Рік тому +3193

    That living curtain thing isn't even animal cruelty
    It's animal torture

    • @TheLooneyGhost
      @TheLooneyGhost Рік тому +137

      they are already dead

    • @vespan.a4839
      @vespan.a4839 Рік тому +684

      @TheLooneyGhost they aren't, they were still alive as they were put on the curtain, that was part of the "art piece", that they were writhing and moving, therefore "living"

    • @hilariousskullnamedcatzo647
      @hilariousskullnamedcatzo647 Рік тому +47

      Time stamp?
      Seriously time stamp people

    • @doindaworst5824
      @doindaworst5824 Рік тому +442

      I know it made me feel sick. I'm just... in shock. I understand the concept, the hypocrisy in how we as everyday consumers turn a blind eye to farms and restaurants. The piece illustrates it in such a way that it should disgust even the most unempathetic people should they see it in person. I see how it could perhaps illicit change in some people to be more conscious of animal rights... but the means of making this piece was henious and sick. These artists... are terrifying people. Truly horrible and disgusting what they did. Just... horrible.

    • @vespan.a4839
      @vespan.a4839 Рік тому +56

      @@hilariousskullnamedcatzo647 3:04 is where it starts

  • @soupos
    @soupos Рік тому +1577

    I know everyone's talking about 'I can't help myself' but "if I died" is really the piece I love the most.

    • @Calicat3672
      @Calicat3672 Рік тому +19

      Same

    • @krisismav
      @krisismav Рік тому +60

      i started tearing up when i saw it, and having the added context made me straight up cry. a very moving piece.

    • @A-1412
      @A-1412 Рік тому +69

      It's the most "human" piece in their collection. No controversial materials or harsh cruelty. It was simply turning someone's dream into a reality for everyone to see, and it was a beauty.

    • @WOTBS
      @WOTBS Рік тому +5

      Where can I find it

    • @jayzenstyle
      @jayzenstyle 9 місяців тому +7

      Of course, because it had something to do with someone very close to the artist... their mother. I feel how much the artist wishes their mother to be sent to that particular afterlife she aspired to have once she's passed.

  • @bearintraining
    @bearintraining 10 місяців тому +47

    I love when you said red viscous liquid as vicious liquid it made me imagine the liquid being sentient and attacking the robot lol.

    • @iconifyme
      @iconifyme 6 місяців тому +2

      I noticed that too. A serendipitous misstatement.

  • @laith8116
    @laith8116 9 місяців тому +6

    One must imagine Sisyphus, happy.

  • @mooblerthomson9851
    @mooblerthomson9851 Рік тому +1760

    Honestly this exhibit makes me think of a new employee, happy he got hired and eager to go above and beyond to impress his employer, later the monotony sets in and the realization that the employer doesn’t care and there’s no future at there job soon follows. Then they slow down depressed and just “going through the motions” to get a paycheck and survive until they retire old and not useful for cooperate exploitation or just as likely with increasing retirement age, they die.

    • @Coco-bl8zg
      @Coco-bl8zg Рік тому +72

      I really love your interpretation. This robot represents life. We are always exited and looking forward to it until we realize how depressing it actually is. Just doing jobs for other people to stay alive. I can relate to this poor robot so much and I'm only 17 lol. I want to give it a hug.

    • @marcelocoutinho1476
      @marcelocoutinho1476 Рік тому +9

      @@Coco-bl8zg if you think life is about doing jobs for other people so you can """"""""simply say alive"""""" I highly suggest you reflect on how you perceive the things around you, your necessities and the Other.
      You sad.

    • @caymansharp623
      @caymansharp623 Рік тому +10

      @@marcelocoutinho1476 this is exactly what life is

    • @Sheltur_0311
      @Sheltur_0311 Рік тому +25

      @@marcelocoutinho1476 what is there to do except live, what freedom do you have if you do not have the funds to do anything else

    • @marcelocoutinho1476
      @marcelocoutinho1476 Рік тому +5

      @@Sheltur_0311 Good points... the thing I'm trying to talk about is exerting the maximum of freedom you can whenever you can according to your own guidelines which are always changing and in relation to the external. Sure we end up in some cages along our lives, most of them in a daily basis, but still inside them we can Be. It doesn't have to suck that much is all I'm saying...

  • @CurtTheHero
    @CurtTheHero Рік тому +4234

    The thing about an art piece is that noone's interpretation is necessary wrong. It may not align with the creator's intention but the piece takes on a life of it's own when it's released and that's part of what makes it beautiful. There's this interesting futility that comes with trying to perfectly preserve a creators vision but people viewing it through their own lens of experiences and emotions is simply inevitable

    • @AnonymooseWasMyName
      @AnonymooseWasMyName Рік тому +33

      Interpretation doesn't matter.
      It's just a dumb term people who use expensive paintings to launder money made popular because it made the money they spent on the trash they bought more believable.

    • @CurtTheHero
      @CurtTheHero Рік тому +167

      @@AnonymooseWasMyName so it does matter. It served its purpose of laundering money. If you truly believe that it's fine but you dont have to like it to matter. Someone's interpretation of it brought them to the point of buying it. There is no inherent, measurable value in anything until someone wants it
      Now NFTs are certainly a racket. Maybe all art is. I dont really agree with that philosophy but I respect your opinion and can appreciate that it made you feel strongly enough to engage

    • @TallicaMan1986
      @TallicaMan1986 Рік тому +59

      I think when an artist comes out and saying what their art is about is when Interpretation should take a backseat. Art isn't About Us at all times meaning the viewer. Art isn't always a mirror in which you project your own ideas onto. Art is a window into someone else at times and If you relate to their ideas and journey yeah, but remember that is their voice, their journey and it's their unique intangible thing compelling them to do what they do.
      The way I see it. Sentimentality has it's place and it's time, but you must remember that subjectivity also has it's place and time. If a "dance" track has some lyrics about some dark topics, maybe it's not what you thought and your interpretation of it being dance was actually wrong and it being danceable was the only way to make it reach as many people as possible.
      Something like The Caretaker's Everywhere At The End of Time which is an album about the Stages of Alzheimer's. This isn't really open for interpretation. All you can really do is sit back and probably relate and Fear this illness and while everyone may have a different alzheimer story. The Art that was made is talking about Alzheimer's.

    • @CurtTheHero
      @CurtTheHero Рік тому +46

      @@TallicaMan1986 I agree that it does matter what the artist intended and for the artist it's absolutely an outlet for those ideas or feelings. But art outlives the creator and inevitably takes on a life of its own. You can't always ask the creator what it meant and part of the beauty is that people can derive what they want or what they feel from it.
      But even with the album you talk about that was explicitly about alzheimers is inevitably going to have people hear or see it through their lens. And it's more powerful to have a personal connection to something than to try and get it to fit in a box. Sure it's about alzheimers but there's no need to limit it's scope. Maybe someone heard it that has had a part go through a similar degenerative disease and they applied the album to that situation. It's great that they could find catharsis through the music regardless of intention ya know?

    • @MyDearGhoul
      @MyDearGhoul Рік тому +32

      I always use this example when talking about the subject about interpretation an an artist's actual meaning:
      A fan met her favorite singer in a group setting at a tv interview and told her how a certain song got her through some very difficult situations in her life because of how she interpreted the meaning.
      However, the artist told her that the songs meaning was something completely different and apologized, officially removing any further meaning that girl would hold for that song.
      I personally feel this was the wrong move on the artists part. She did not need to crush that girls connection to something that she created. While I do agree that the personal reason for why they create their art is important, at that moment she could have simply let it go and allowed her to have her feel good moment and told her that the inspiration for the song was different but her interpretation is what is important and not tell her.
      That's just me though.

  • @gaburieruR
    @gaburieruR 8 місяців тому +7

    Came for the robot, discovered the Curtain...
    I'm disgusted, really. Torturing hundred of animals for art, isn't art, it's pure sadism and a crime. Oh my...

    • @Zephirah
      @Zephirah 11 днів тому

      Same, and totally agree.

    • @Jack_Kennedy01
      @Jack_Kennedy01 4 дні тому

      It made me feel a terrible pain in my stomach, so sick. I know art is supposed to make you feel, but I don't know if I can love the two artists as much as I did now. I still love the robot, I can separate the art from the artist, but it really is terrible the curtain...

  • @youwantmyname9208
    @youwantmyname9208 5 місяців тому +10

    I think what makes Cant help myself robot so special is, We are the machine. It somehow reflects on us. People thought we're just sympathising on the robot, but what makes us really emotional for the robot is because this does happens, and its very common

  • @katietaylor8314
    @katietaylor8314 Рік тому +538

    A quote from my favourite TV show of all time springs to mind: "Isn't the point of art less what people put into it and more what they get out of it?"

    • @marcelocoutinho1476
      @marcelocoutinho1476 Рік тому +2

      nice quote. didn't hear that one before, loved it.

    • @delbertamadeustan6932
      @delbertamadeustan6932 Рік тому +27

      Ah bojack horseman, the show for the tormented, great show

    • @BrodyLuv2
      @BrodyLuv2 11 місяців тому +2

      Insufferable vapidity

    • @georgejohnson-vu2zm
      @georgejohnson-vu2zm 11 місяців тому

      WHEN YOU GIVE LITTLE , YOU DESERVE LITTLE .

    • @biggiechungus784
      @biggiechungus784 10 місяців тому

      "You do the hokey pokey and you turn yourself around. *You turn yourself around*. *That's* what's it's all about."

  • @leila13dnd
    @leila13dnd Рік тому +1753

    The dogs that cannot touch each other was actually pretty tame in my opinion. The dogs get to run, their owners are there to intervene and a medical team in case something happens and the treadmills aren't motorized so accidents are less likely.
    Now the curtain of crustaceans and snakes? That unsettled me far more.

    • @REC-L
      @REC-L 10 місяців тому +70

      You just explained basically the daily lives of animals like pigs, cows in tight spaces with bare or even minimum amount of living space

    • @Tser
      @Tser 10 місяців тому +206

      I'd completely agree with this except that they are dogs from dog fighting. "[S]cholar Meiling Cheng writes that the dogs were sourced from 'a provincial breeding and training institute for fighting dogs.' The animals were grandly transported to the site in eight separate limousines, with human trainers to keep them apart, because they were 'so territorial and violent toward each other.'" They're covered in scars because they've been used in dog fighting by their (disgusting) owners already; those are the people present to protect them, but obviously the health and wellbeing of the dogs is not something important to these people. They are bred to be genetically inclined to be aggressive towards other dogs and they've been trained to attack other dogs, so they are not running because they want to run.
      The thing is, these treadmills are already a training method for people who fight dogs. Other fighting dogs or bait dogs are used to incentivize the behavior. "Dogs that can't touch each other" happens every day in bloodsport facilities everywhere. Those treadmills weren't designed from scratch by the artists, they're the exact same type already used in dog training. I love installation art, and I totally can respect ready made objects as art when decontextualized, so my beef isn't with that. It's more that the whole thing feels *misleading*.
      So few people realize that these ARE fighting dogs that will live bloody, short, violent lives full of pain and abuse, and continue the cycle. So if the show was attempting to highlight the horrors of dog fighting, it didn't. Neither the museum's blurb nor the artist's statement mentioned this, but said something vague about people and "society at large". The dogs didn't earn a reprieve, they weren't removed from the situation. The museum even lied about why they were running. It's just... all around sketch.
      At first I thought it was harmless; dogs sometimes will run on non-mechanical treadmills on their own, just for the joy of running (and some cats will run on wheels, etc.); there are dog exercisers that have these treadmills in vans, and go to houses, and the dogs get *so* excited and run and leap up into the van and jump onto the treadmills ready to go for a run. There are some really cute videos of the mobile exercising on instagram and youtube and so on. But then I just kind of noticed that they were a bully breed, so I looked into it further. :/
      On the other hand, literally *spearing live animals with wires through them* and hanging them up is unfathomable cruelty. It's so sadistic. When asked about it, the artist replied that they were going to be eaten anyway. But if they had been purchased by people to eat, they would not have been stabbed with a wire and hung from the ceiling to die an excruciating slow death. I am horrified by it, personally, just like all the other killing-animals-live-on-stage-for-art that has happened in Chinese modern "animalworks" art (they are far far far from the only people staging animal abuse and animal killing art).
      But there are a lot of cultural aspects and political import of these art pieces that I simply have no experience of, with extreme censorship and curation of art and speech by the government, and this has definitely arisen in a culture where anger and frustration can't be directed at those that prompt it. So I have to admit my ignorance and that I can't really judge the situation fairly.
      Wary of that art piece, "If I Died", that the video creator loves either, personally. It's absolutely stunning, and quite a beautiful concept... but a lot of those taxidermied birds are extremely endangered. It may be (hopefully) that they were captive animals that were collected after natural death (quite common in vulture culture art and something I see no problem with at all! though as demonstrated by these other art pieces, their lives before death may not have been that great). But because of the track record of these artists, I don't know. They may have been killed specifically for this piece (especially since there are SO MANY of them required at once for this piece), or (far less likely?) they were vintage taxidermy pieces that predate CITES export laws (many of those can't legally cross country borders of origin without a permit). Worst would be if they were illegally poached from the wild, and I'm hoping that's the least likely scenario, even though China does have a major problem with poached animal imports. I can't find any information on the source of the birds from the artists or museum.

    • @rubyy.7374
      @rubyy.7374 10 місяців тому +26

      @@REC-L You just explained how you didn’t read the original comment

    • @Roz4628
      @Roz4628 9 місяців тому +13

      The fact the dogs are 'encouraged' is weird.

    • @glenmchargue5461
      @glenmchargue5461 9 місяців тому +56

      ​@@Tserthat puts so much more perspective on the dog piece, why didn't this creator explain that? It explains why people were upset... I was wondering about this too.

  • @pnghumor
    @pnghumor 8 місяців тому +8

    The interpretation for OCD really works, but this first struck me as being about Dementia.
    Dementia essentially has you doing the same things every day, clinging onto what little memories you have, without even being aware of it, meanwhile it makes your health worse and worse every single day.

  • @roastedscorpion
    @roastedscorpion 6 місяців тому +1

    I've looked all over and seen all kinds of content covering this subject, and your video is the most informative and thorough that I've found as of yet. I just wanted to thank you for covering it. Well done!

  • @janemiettinen5176
    @janemiettinen5176 Рік тому +883

    As an artist, I gotta say something. I may have a particular idea in mind when Im painting, but as soon as the piece leaves my studio, its open to interpreting. No interpretation is wrong, its up to you what you see, Im just the mirror holder. As long as Ive made you feel or think, Ive done my job. I think most artist think this way, but of course I cant be sure and Im certainly not talking on behalf this couple in question. Ive talked about this with my artsy friends from different fields (dancers, poets, painters, musicians, you name it) and we seem to have consensus, tho my polling pool is quite limited. Just thought I throw this out there; art can be intimidating and it shouldnt be, I hate it. Art is for everybody. Theres no wrong answers, whatever you experience is right.

    • @thatonedrainedplatter5421
      @thatonedrainedplatter5421 Рік тому +23

      Absolutely correct, Art is for interpretation. Some artists say how they want the piece to be seen which is alright but a lot leave it up to the viewers.

    • @marcelocoutinho1476
      @marcelocoutinho1476 Рік тому +5

      the more technical and flamboyant a piece gets, easier it is for its creator to forget what art is and make everything about them. It's a sad and pathetic behavior that at best deserves some well put laughs. After all, why get mad at something so pathetic?

    • @Thalatash
      @Thalatash Рік тому +4

      I am glad to hear you say that. I've always thought that but never said it as well. I always would say it's like a Rorschach test that tells just as much about you (the consumer) as the artist. It's funny, too, because with art, people can show their true colors, especially with what they are offended at. My favorite example is the moral panic over the Kingsmen song, "Louie, Louie." There are some nonsensical lyrics that were never meant to say anything, but people heard all sorts of things that they claimed were "perverted and sexual" lol. It keeps happening, too, so I think all the loudest of the "Morality Police" just have the dirtiest minds.

    • @janemiettinen5176
      @janemiettinen5176 Рік тому +3

      @@Thalatash I remember reading about it. Same thing happened with the bored housewives-board that gave us those parental advisory content stickers. I cherish the moment forever in my heart, when Dee Snider told Al Gore his wife has dirty mind; the song in question wasnt about S&M, but a throat operation. If you go and look for something dirty, you will find it, every single time. And Als face.. I really thought for a second his head was going to explode, priceless! Then there was the whole debacle of playing rock records backwards.. well before intentional back-masking was a thing. I guess these things will always pop up, always in the “wont someone think about the children”-context.

    • @janemiettinen5176
      @janemiettinen5176 Рік тому

      @@thatonedrainedplatter5421 I think the title of the piece is like guide, that points you to the direction the artist wanted. But if you see looming death in a painting called “Two girls picking wild flowers”, that is a ok too. To me the different explanations are exciting, form of mental richness. And trying to curb that freedom would be just silly.

  • @carved_cuts
    @carved_cuts Рік тому +3276

    Nobody gonna talk about the curtain? I was so disturbed that I looked it up, hoping to be wrong but I wasn't. As I feared, all those creatures were put there to starve, dry out and generally suffer a slow death. The artists wanted to show their dying struggles specifically. 400 kilograms of lobsters, 30 kilograms of eels, 30 kilograms of snakes, and 20 kilograms of bull frogs suffered to death for their "art."
    The only thing that was interesting to me about this, is that so many people were disturbed by the dog piece. Yet when anything that's not a cute fluffy mammal is strung up to suffer, till death finally ends it's misery, it's much less talked about. I'm not a fan of the dog piece myself, but it's nothing compared to the cruelty of the curtain.
    ---
    Edit: At the time of posting this comment, there were few talking about the curtain and I feel this video kinda glossed over the true horror of it. I also didn't see anyone having researched this more. Most commenters were just praising the artists. But I can't support them after the shit i've read, and I was wondering if anyone else felt the same.
    I've been trying to comment my source but UA-cam is allergic to links, and keeps deleting it. Just search the names of the artists and "the curtain." You'll find a PDF about their animal pieces eventually. Further sources are listed in the document as well.
    ---
    Frequently used arguments:
    1. But it got the point across. You are upset, and this was the artist's intention.
    Just because it's art and has a message to convey or emotion to envoke, doesn't make it okay. You can brutally kill a man, claim the corpse is art and make it a "critique on murder, meant to upset people." Will it convey the message? Yes. Will it upset people? Yes. Is it okay? No. This example is a crime, and should be treated as such.
    2. The piece is a critique on how we treat these animals.
    You don't have to commit cruelty in order to artistically critique it. For example: a PSA about child abuse. The director can't legally make someone abuse a child on camera. So they use actors and implications to get the point across.
    3. Dogs are more sentient than the creatures in the curtain.
    Yet the creatures in the curtain felt hunger, thirst, pain and fear, untill they finally died, all the same. A snake can't whimper and cry like a puppy, but that doesn't mean it can't feel pain.
    4. Dogs are pets and therefore more important.
    Frogs and snakes are also kept as pets. Less common pets, but they are loved by their owners nonetheless. Lobsters and eels are usually kept in zoo aquariums, but there are people who keep them as a personal pet too. An animal doesn't need to be able to retrieve a ball to be considered a pet.
    5. Millions of these animals die everyday for food.
    Millions of people die everyday too, yet murder is a crime. Yes we kill and eat these animals in mass but they can be killed humanely. We don't hang live food from the ceiling until it starves to death. This art piece is straight up, unnecessary cruelty. Wasteful too. They could have fed so many starving people with all this meat.

    • @nicktallfox5266
      @nicktallfox5266 Рік тому +767

      this comment made me realise what unempathetic, messed up difference it makes to count creatures by total mass. 400 kilograms of lobsters sounds fine, but imagine doing that with things like those "cute fluffy mammals". 300 kilograms of dogs, 250 pounds of cats.
      Imagine doing that with people, like, that might be one of the most dehumanizing things I've ever thought about. In all my morbid research i'm pretty sure victims of concentration camps were counted as individual humans even when being disposed of.
      I'm thinking about all this because i personally really like snakes, and think of them as possible pets, so reading "30 kilograms of snakes" instead of the actual number of snakes was jarring, and a bit eye opening as a whole.

    • @carved_cuts
      @carved_cuts Рік тому +405

      @@nicktallfox5266 Same here. I couldn't find anywhere how many individuals were killed. only the weight of them combined. This whole thing in general is the most disturbing shit I've seen and it only gets worse the deeper you look into it.

    • @spoon7053
      @spoon7053 Рік тому

      @@carved_cuts i genuinely have no clue how they sleep at night. It’s exponentially worse than the dog piece, which was questionable but still controlled.
      then again, people boil lobsters alive without a second thought, and nobody bats an eye.

    • @desastrnarrations
      @desastrnarrations Рік тому +488

      I'm really sad to find out they were all meant to suffer here and die. That isn't art, it's animal cruelty.

    • @doindaworst5824
      @doindaworst5824 Рік тому +339

      It physically hurt me to look at it. I see their point but oh my god, to actually torture anything, to condemn these creatures like this to prove a point... these people are not ok. It's really sick.

  • @Lyzi.B
    @Lyzi.B 8 місяців тому +3

    This is the beautiful thing about art. It's subjective to the people viewing it. An artist can design a piece, sculpture, or a painting with a specific idea and story in mind. Once that piece of art enters the public the idea or concept might not resonate equally, or at all. Two separate people can view the same piece and both can have completely different feelings and ideas about that piece. Neither perspective is right or wrong, even if it differs from the creator. Art is meant to invoke feelings and make us think. The artist can attempt to control or create a narrative surrounding the art, but it's inevitably variable based on our own perception and consciousness. It's always subjective. Even if two people are present for an event or share an experience they'll still have different feelings and ideas about it in the end. Their perception of the exact same thing might not be anything alike. It's human nature and human experience that determines how an art piece makes us feel and what we take away from that experience with it. Imo that's amazing and beautiful. I love hearing different opinions on the same piece or exhibit.. It forces me to think outside my own ideas and comfort zone.

  • @scotu7075
    @scotu7075 Рік тому +1

    I love the thorough explanation of the artists’ other works, and the video clips. It helped paint the picture

  • @rileyf.838
    @rileyf.838 Рік тому +610

    honestly, for the longest time, i thought it was about OCD and constantly trying to control a part of your surroundings that doesn’t really affect you until it destroyed you.

    • @Someone-zn4dh
      @Someone-zn4dh Рік тому +65

      It's art, you can interpret it as much as you want even if it is different from the artist own interpretation

    • @Youareaidiot
      @Youareaidiot Рік тому

      As someone with huge ocd symptoms I find this very interesting

    • @joenfdurmom
      @joenfdurmom 10 місяців тому

      ​@@Someone-zn4dhlol that ain't art it's a robot

    • @HelloHSR
      @HelloHSR 10 місяців тому +20

      @@joenfdurmom anything can be art wdym

    • @Constantine_Cvl8
      @Constantine_Cvl8 9 місяців тому +2

      ​@@HelloHSRunfortunately

  • @exosproudmamabear558
    @exosproudmamabear558 Рік тому +1057

    The living curtain is straight out animal cruelty.They are just attached to the curtain alive thats just a line that should be not crossed in my opinion. Ethic is a important subject in art and science.There are multiple lines you shouldnt cross even it is means restricting artistic endeveours. Where those lines start and end is a question but there should be definitely some.

    • @ah-sh9dw
      @ah-sh9dw Рік тому +135

      I think the line is that the subjects need to consent and something tells me those aninals did not consent. As far as I'm concerned the living curtain is as much an art piece as the black dahlia murder was. I wish animal abuse laws weren't so lax, had to hug my kitties extra tight after this video

    • @exosproudmamabear558
      @exosproudmamabear558 Рік тому +147

      @@ah-sh9dw Even with consent you shouldnt torture someone to death.Even in bdsm if you torture someone to death you will be punished since even with consent it is murder

    • @carved_cuts
      @carved_cuts Рік тому +145

      Thank you! I had to look away from it because it disturbed me so deeply. I feel sick. It's interesting how people cared about the dogs because, dogs. But nobody bats an eye when anything that's not a cute fluffy mammal is strung up alive, to suffer a slow death. I did research and they actually meant to show the dying struggles of these creatures.
      I looked it up because I so badly wanted to be wrong, but I wasn't. They were put there to suffer and slowly die.

    • @exosproudmamabear558
      @exosproudmamabear558 Рік тому +29

      @@carved_cuts Oh God this makes it even worse.

    • @ah-sh9dw
      @ah-sh9dw Рік тому +7

      @@exosproudmamabear558legally it probably depends on the country and circumstances, ethically it's way too complicated for me to express myself properly in a comment. I was thinking the human equivalent would be more like suspension but yeah, unlike those animals when people do it they don't just hang til they die

  • @belle2238
    @belle2238 9 місяців тому +2

    i found you through dark music history and that was interesting but i love the branching out you're doing and hope to see more of it in the future. love the vids o:

  • @seriouspotato_420
    @seriouspotato_420 8 місяців тому +7

    I don't really know what this piece actually means , but to me it felt like a person who was trying his hardest to keep his life in order, but no matter how hard he tried. he couldn't keep everything under control and kept losing stuff closest or dearest to him. If you try to control something with total authority, sooner or later all of it would come toppling down .

  • @ah-sh9dw
    @ah-sh9dw Рік тому +261

    I feel so bad for those snakes. That's some vlad the impaler shit there

    • @desastrnarrations
      @desastrnarrations Рік тому +80

      That's what I was thinking. It's good the dogs had their owners there, and other pieces were just use of the dead (whether or not someone agrees or disagrees it is okay, we can agree there was no living things suffering in those cases). But the snakes were still very much alive and the disregard for them makes me sad. I hope it's just a case of snakes hanging out there after being put there as opposed to writhing and being uncomfortable/in pain.
      Edit: Nope my hopes are wrong. After looking through other comments, the snakes and frogs and eels (I think I got all three ) were meant to be displayed dying a slow death. That's pure evil.
      Edit 2: Given some idiots are trying to twist my words, I'll say I initially thought the dogs were just pets being watched by owners running on treadmills. The video was misleading. I didn't know the full context - obviously I am completely against dog fighting and them hurting each other, that's just as horrible. I can't believe I even had to say that, but people apparently can't see context clues these days.

    • @doindaworst5824
      @doindaworst5824 Рік тому +6

      @ah I was thinking it had to be something like that. Something that would be scary and shocking to see and be around. I've been mauled, dogs are very powerful animals and could of killed each other or a bystander. (I still love dogs and think they are inherently good)

    • @ah-sh9dw
      @ah-sh9dw Рік тому +36

      @@desastrnarrations yeah, the video was kind of vague and that made everything seem better than it was. I did some googling and even the dog thing was a lot worse than the impression I got. They were actual fighting dogs trying to maul each other and were visibly distressed
      Also sorry about redoing this reply so many times. Turns out I'm really bad at checking for typos

    • @desastrnarrations
      @desastrnarrations Рік тому +23

      @@ah-sh9dw No worries at all. Also yeah I'm sort of disappointed how much the video downplayed it, because I figured (and wrongly hoped) it was this:
      The snakes were hanging out on the vines to be given back to their owners if they were pets following that, snakes sometimes hang out and such, which would be fine if they were not stressed and there temporarily.
      Big nope... gods it's horrible, they were meant to be dying there. Also the fact the the dogs were in a way worse situation also breaks my heart, that was also downplayed as well in that case.
      Had to edit cause I reread what you said, and wow. That is WAYYYY Worse than what I was led to believe regarding the dogs. I thought they were just pets running on treadmills, that is evil as well.

    • @jebbsredemption
      @jebbsredemption Рік тому

      @@desastrnarrations So you'd rather the dogs be brutally mauling eachother in pain. Sounds really moral to me..

  • @birb2330
    @birb2330 Рік тому +370

    The Living Curtain reminds me of some forgotten work by Dante related to his work, It's a hellish sight and a terrible torture! Imagine people Tied together and hung in such a curtain to starve to death, And the only thing that will be remembered after them is their total weight, not even a number.

    • @doindaworst5824
      @doindaworst5824 Рік тому +28

      So horrible and very very sad

    • @darianstarfrog
      @darianstarfrog Рік тому +1

      ​@@doindaworst5824 they were already dead

    • @doindaworst5824
      @doindaworst5824 Рік тому +103

      Just did the research and found that not only were they alive, but that these two have produced even more works of animal cruelty not mentioned in the video. Theater of the world is another example.

    • @mobotman6930
      @mobotman6930 Рік тому +7

      theater of the world is a different artist

    • @doindaworst5824
      @doindaworst5824 Рік тому +48

      @Mobotman I think you're actually right. I'm going back over the sites I was at, and I think that installation is by Huang Yong Ping, while the wall artists are Sun Yuan and Peng Yu. I had lumped the exhibit with Sun and Peng Yu because the article mentions the exhibit in a list of cruel exhibits and I assumed they were all by the original artists. I'm now learning that there's several artists who show little to no empathy towards animals. They're just tools to these people.

  • @silviopina_111
    @silviopina_111 6 місяців тому

    Wow! I was looking online for some visual reference of robot arms in motion and came across this video. I first thought you were one of those "robo-voices" that narrate news on you tube. Slowly I got dragged in, realized you were a human and watched the whole thing. I had zero knowledge about this project or the artist duo. So than you for enriching my life, I will check out more of their work and more of yours. Great work!

  • @M4D0GG0
    @M4D0GG0 8 місяців тому +4

    "One must imagine the machine happy."

  • @spookychan7189
    @spookychan7189 Рік тому +392

    Honestly I don't think it's bad for others to have there own interpretation of the piece. It isn't "Disrespecting" the artist's true point or message. I think the artist would want others to interpret the piece for themselves and have there own ideas about it. That's what art is, everyone has there OWN interpretation of the piece wether it's wrong or right to the artist's message.

    • @marcelocoutinho1476
      @marcelocoutinho1476 Рік тому +8

      You are absolutely right! The piece creators have every right to feel that a particular interpretation is indeed disrespectful, but still, that's what art is for. Discussion, arguments, ideas, interpretations. The Process.

    • @clyne8835
      @clyne8835 Рік тому +12

      As an artist: if someone doesn't tell me their unique interpretation of my art that is entirely different from my original intention I will die. I need that shit to live it's like cocaine to my bloodstream

    • @marcelocoutinho1476
      @marcelocoutinho1476 Рік тому +2

      @@clyne8835 I totally get you and thats actually quite wonderful. You thus enable mirrors into people's minds. Evoking and inviting them. Thank you. Keep on keepin on.

    • @genericname2747
      @genericname2747 Рік тому +1

      ​@@clyne8835 I love the way you chose to describe this

    • @clyne8835
      @clyne8835 Рік тому +2

      @@genericname2747 thank you I only speak my pure unfiltered truth

  • @conk9990
    @conk9990 8 місяців тому +1

    One can only imagine the saddest robot happy.

  • @Knight-rous
    @Knight-rous 8 місяців тому +1

    finding joy in a hell forced onto you by gods would be a pretty metal story for this robot almost like Sisyphus

  • @detox3036
    @detox3036 Рік тому +325

    When I read the title I immediately assumed you made a 20min video about the bot that hacked your channel.

  • @carrotswordgaming3483
    @carrotswordgaming3483 Рік тому +728

    5:02 I'm sorry, but there is a clear difference between art and animal abuse.

    • @QuakeGamerROTMG
      @QuakeGamerROTMG Рік тому +95

      Animals die all day every day to support your lifestyle, their art piece isn't even a drop in the bucket in regards to animal suffering but it manages to get so many people talking about it
      I don't even really like that they did it or agree with it, but it's a bit weird to act like this one art piece is evil when the house you live in necessitated the deaths of hundreds or maybe thousands of animals clearing the land and getting the building materials to make it. Not to mention the electricity you use every day and the food you eat.

    • @circle4602
      @circle4602 Рік тому +219

      ​@@QuakeGamerROTMG to be fair, no one's making rows of animals run on treadmills until they die, and most of the time an animal dies for food, it's done as painless as possible

    • @trighyjock5415
      @trighyjock5415 Рік тому +13

      Sir, I have sad news. Did you ever heard about dog fights?

    • @1unartic
      @1unartic Рік тому +56

      @@circle4602 this, the thing here though as well is that people need to stop supporting corporation that DO make environmental harm and animal abuse to their products. I’m personally a Locavore, there is respect in the people I talk to that butcher their own animals, this (the snake wall) is not respect at all. The problem isn’t our diet, it’s the people behind the product for our diet that we choose to continue to support.
      People who support vegan animal rights yet also support corporations not local to them is hypocritical to their statement. It should be ignored.

    • @clownworld4655
      @clownworld4655 Рік тому +144

      @@QuakeGamerROTMG there is a massive difference between killing animals to eat or harvest something from them and stringing them up on a wall just for fun. The fact that you can’t see that difference is concerning

  • @skeletonemoji
    @skeletonemoji 9 місяців тому +2

    Everyone: Saddest robot on earth
    Me: *One must imagine sisyphus happy*

  • @wyattpielow2065
    @wyattpielow2065 6 місяців тому +2

    I despise how a lot of people tend to put down and deject how others interpret works of art, in my mind art is somethings thats made to be seen from as many angles as possible and interpreted in whatever way it speaks to you.

  • @yeethittter1285
    @yeethittter1285 Рік тому +471

    Insane to me how ppl reacted to the Living Curtain vs Dogs Who Can't Touch Each Other. So many animals dying in pain for the sake of art is just a bit shocking, but making some dogs run is an outrage? Not even treated individually, just by how much they weigh in total. I guess if it's not cute and fluffy it doesn't matter 😐😐😐

    • @spicymeatballs2thespicening
      @spicymeatballs2thespicening Рік тому +93

      As a reptile lover I fucking hate people who are like that, you'd expect children to think that way

    • @JurassicGlitchy
      @JurassicGlitchy Рік тому +87

      I get chills seeing all the comments praising the artists for the robot and their ‘unorthodox methods’ while disregarding everything they did to animals in other works. Complimenting the artists on their methods only further encourages them to use unethical methods of doing their art.

    • @yeethittter1285
      @yeethittter1285 Рік тому +63

      @@JurassicGlitchy I like most of their art and how they experiment with stuff most artists wouldn't. But actual deaths are the line that should not be crossed

    • @BennyLlama39
      @BennyLlama39 11 місяців тому +22

      To my way of thinking, furry vs. non-furry is irrelevant. BOTH those pieces should've been pulled, and the "artists" exterminated on the spot.

    • @littlehorn0063
      @littlehorn0063 10 місяців тому

      You wouldn't be better than them if you killed these two people. I'd argue you'd be worse since there isn't any planned ritual before the murder. Connect to Ninush or at least Gro-goroth before killing anybody. Animals are biological automata, so killing them, the ones with less sentience (hope I spelled right), is less bad than killing more capable humans, even from pragmatic sense.

  • @dragonf1recdn
    @dragonf1recdn Рік тому +161

    Seems like the robot is a metaphor for how we're all doomed to work for others until the day we die.

  • @xistsixt
    @xistsixt 8 місяців тому +1

    Wow, never expected this to go that far. The fact that the internet jumped on and fulfilled the prediction for the meaning they thought through.., is mind-blowing... That went deep

  • @yume2727
    @yume2727 8 місяців тому +2

    We just want to imagine Robo Sisyphus Happy 😔

  • @sebastianbass946
    @sebastianbass946 Рік тому +36

    9:48 He said “vicious” (deliberately cruel or violent) instead of “viscous” (sticky or resistive to flow). The liquid is actually the latter.

  • @justaguynamedwill3009
    @justaguynamedwill3009 Рік тому +166

    Imagine donating your body to science and then your fat is turned into a pillar 💀

    • @ivanalves8506
      @ivanalves8506 10 місяців тому +4

      At least you'll be useful even after death

    • @Gusenichka925
      @Gusenichka925 10 місяців тому +21

      ​@@ivanalves8506 useful? You would expect to have your body be used for testing something that can be used to help humanity as a whole, not to be a pillar

    • @ivanalves8506
      @ivanalves8506 10 місяців тому +3

      @@Gusenichka925 it depends on who you ask but its better than becoming dust 7ft deep

    • @RongDMemer
      @RongDMemer 10 місяців тому +1

      ​@@ivanalves8506true but still useless

    • @sinisterthoughts2896
      @sinisterthoughts2896 8 місяців тому

      ​@@ivanalves8506how is that actually useful?

  • @rilynnmiller
    @rilynnmiller 9 місяців тому +15

    I honestly relate to the robot. I want to give it a hug

  • @Commedeshommes
    @Commedeshommes 26 днів тому +1

    “Art should comfort the disturbed and disturb the comfortable”

  • @lelduck6388
    @lelduck6388 Рік тому +21

    Making “the curtain” was an evil act. That doesn’t mean it wasn’t art, that it doesn’t have a message, it means that its creation was evil. If it was meant to show how we disregard those animal’s lives it fails at the for the same reason that “Cuties” failed, it’s hypocritical and it does exactly what it’s meant to protest against. It actually does worse because those animals died for no tangible reason. They didn’t die for food, it wasn’t an accident or it wasn’t because they were in the way. It was because the artists wanted to get a message across, which they could’ve done without causing needless suffering. They could’ve made a painting, a sculpture or waited for technological advances to use animatronics. It should’ve never been made, at least not with live animals with their suffering the point of the piece.

    • @Lordzilla
      @Lordzilla Рік тому +1

      It ain't art maybe they should use you to make you're so called "art"

    • @spicymeatballs2thespicening
      @spicymeatballs2thespicening Рік тому +1

      @@Lordzilla he's literally agreeing that it was evil and should not have been created

    • @viv_twins3460
      @viv_twins3460 3 місяці тому

      I’m sorry, but I wish to put a few words into this. I don’t really agree with what you said, living rats and animals in experiment labs are experimented on for more breakthroughs and ways to cure diseases in our society no? Scientists don’t really experiment on dead corpse of animals much because there’s really no impact or benefit. So like how most people experiment on animals and not dead animals for result, the way Sun Yuan and Peng Yu hanged the living insects to die isn’t really useless, it was actually impactful and memorial. If they used already dead corpses there wouldn’t be as much of a attention to the insects anyway, so in a way it was actually not useless. It gathered more emotions and attention to it. Plus, have you considered the living organism you killed? Is there really a difference between the insects you killed and the insects in the video that are dying? I don’t really think so to be honest, so I can’t really seem to see your perspective on how your so up and high about it, but this is just my opinion due to my perspective on the world. 😅

  • @taylormademyself89
    @taylormademyself89 Рік тому +244

    First time I feel bad for a robot not in a movie 😅

    • @Facklewhore
      @Facklewhore Рік тому +7

      You shouldn't. It's a machine

    • @darianstarfrog
      @darianstarfrog Рік тому

      ​@@Facklewhore a dangerous p.o.v.. used through history to horrible effect, this is how genocide happens.. careful

    • @wahtx7717
      @wahtx7717 Рік тому +4

      ​@@Facklewhore so are we

    • @Emmanuel5280th
      @Emmanuel5280th Рік тому +11

      ​​@@Facklewhore Well that's a problematic thing to say 🤷.
      Just because it's not human and stuff doesn't mean you shouldn't sympathize with it.
      Also AI going rogue mostly happening in Skynet scenarios is from paranoia
      and hatred/no care for it.
      Humans are not much different from machines, your DNA is your code.
      Too much or lack of emotions is pretty bad.

    • @Facklewhore
      @Facklewhore Рік тому

      @@Emmanuel5280th I understand if it's a dog or something but you're feeling bad for a machine that has no feelings or emotions? That is just stupid honestly.

  • @Ajcutzz17
    @Ajcutzz17 5 місяців тому +1

    Crazy how much empathy this robot getting and I can’t even get a text back frl 😢

  • @insidenightmare
    @insidenightmare Рік тому

    Your use of practical effects in your horror videos is outstanding

  • @malirabbit6228
    @malirabbit6228 Рік тому +103

    Perhaps we could have an exhibition of people inside cages reaching through the bars for food?

    • @ChesireHeart
      @ChesireHeart Рік тому +7

      Uh yeah.... That's called a human zoo. You should actually gather info and think about the stuff you say before you say it

    • @theophiled
      @theophiled Рік тому +61

      @@ChesireHeart I believe Mali was sarcastic and referencing the curtain of lobsters that were left to starve until death. These artists have very poor taste tbh, there are tons of other way to display death/animal cruelty without actively being part of the problem.

    • @Hhuhater
      @Hhuhater Рік тому +5

      @@theophiledim not disagreeing with in in any way, but I think the artist wanted you to hate them for it, they wanted you to think they were disgusting. Why? There are a plethora of possible reasons. Maybe they wanted such a primal and strong feeling of disgust or hate to surface. Maybe they wanted to make you mad at them, because they are human too. Were they saying “we are the problem”? Not we as in the two artist but we as in the human race. Its a horrible and disgusting thing and I hate to say it but I think that was the point.

    • @EmeraldEthanMiner
      @EmeraldEthanMiner Рік тому +7

      @@Hhuhater miles, chill bro. You need to take a break from this video. Eat some cookies or whatever.

    • @Sarawarawara-
      @Sarawarawara- Рік тому +6

      @@Hhuhater They did not, they react negatively to backlash and justify themselves with the idea that they would have probably been eaten or just the mere fact that they would have died anyways

  • @pump-kin
    @pump-kin Рік тому +110

    Dude, this hits all of my favorite things I’ve seen in art! Psychological concepts, robotics, and a sense of helplessness and personification.
    I love this so dearly, and I would trade the world to be able to watch it work.

  • @highvoltagefeathers
    @highvoltagefeathers Місяць тому +1

    It's interesting having an industrial automation take on this, compared to an artistic take. This robot runs on electrical servos gear drives, specifically because they will last for literally a decade or more without maintenance. In reality, this robot is perfectly "happy" doing this forever. It may need an overhaul every 10 or 15 years, but it isn't tired in any way, and it doesn't want to stop. It's not sweeping up it's own hydraulic fluid, it doesn't run on hydraulic fluid. I think it's interesting how the context compels people to feel so strongly for a machine that is in no pain, feeling nothing, and doing nothing outside of it's designed function and service life.

  • @doomergirl6012
    @doomergirl6012 7 днів тому

    This is what modern art is supposed to be like. Something so bizzare, yet you see the point. Your point

  • @brandonrobinson281
    @brandonrobinson281 Рік тому +437

    thank you for bringing this piece and these artists to my attention. Fantastic video, well worth the struggles you went through to push it out

    • @deburke321
      @deburke321  Рік тому +16

      Thank you very much I really appreciate it!

    • @sleepynova4840
      @sleepynova4840 Рік тому +11

      they are also horrible people. they strung up thousands of live animals, restrained them, and left them to starve

    • @Thisguy2736
      @Thisguy2736 9 місяців тому

      ​@sleepynova4840 so you can admire the message of the art without liking the artist besides their goal was to get people to hate them

  • @nerida3347
    @nerida3347 Рік тому +202

    tying together living snakes seems a bit cruel.

    • @sazzycool
      @sazzycool Рік тому +98

      'a bit'? It's downright cruel

    • @AndrewSmith-qw5kt
      @AndrewSmith-qw5kt Рік тому +6

      If the snake could, they would tie us up and string us up too!

    • @Killthefish
      @Killthefish Рік тому +71

      @@AndrewSmith-qw5kt so it's ok to string up 30 snakes until they starve or suffocate for some dumb ass "art"

    • @AndrewSmith-qw5kt
      @AndrewSmith-qw5kt Рік тому

      @@Killthefish Whatever! And coming from a person named kill the fish!! Hypocrite!!

    • @nerida3347
      @nerida3347 Рік тому +6

      @Heinrich Himmler that's what I meant, getting tone across on the internet is a bit hard though, heh

  • @Greedman456
    @Greedman456 10 місяців тому

    Great artwork. I wasnt aware about it. Thanks for the video

  • @noreencadavedo2742
    @noreencadavedo2742 5 місяців тому +1

    Oughh that ending line gave me chills lol "eventually, there will come a day where we all can't help ourselves"

  • @Mini3x3
    @Mini3x3 Рік тому +67

    Imagine how cool it would have been if the robot pushed all the liquid away from itself in an act of protest on the final day.

  • @doindaworst5824
    @doindaworst5824 Рік тому +265

    That living wall. It's so horrible, I hate that they did that, I hate it. I understand it though, and feel humbled by it, as well as disgusted. I wish they hadn't done it. Dang.

    • @darianstarfrog
      @darianstarfrog Рік тому +2

      They were already dead

    • @doindaworst5824
      @doindaworst5824 Рік тому +119

      @Darian Starfrog I just Google myself and while it's tough to find the truth, unfortunately these animals were alive. The point of the exhibit was to show the hypocrisy but the artist actually expressed disdain for her audience asking, 'why do yall even care, these animals would of probably been eaten'

    • @chief_mourner
      @chief_mourner Рік тому +33

      ​@@darianstarfrog did you even watch the video? They are so clearly writhing around.

    • @scn_thedog
      @scn_thedog Рік тому +71

      ​@@doindaworst5824
      Another thing is that the artists didn't adress how many animals were "used". They only adressed the weight of all them together.
      I find it beyond terrifying that they don't even acknowledge the animals as individuals, just as another prop to use for their own self-gain…

    • @Hhuhater
      @Hhuhater Рік тому +4

      I think that they wanted you to feel that way

  • @Matagatsu
    @Matagatsu 8 місяців тому

    reminds me of people who keep trying to break an old habit but find themselves relapsing right when they're on their way to a great change.

  • @j4ckory
    @j4ckory 9 місяців тому +1

    It gets rustier and rustier until it can't do it anymore. Similar to how as we hide it more and more, we get sadder and sadder until we break down.

  • @TC-rv6sz
    @TC-rv6sz Рік тому +128

    Hi, does anyone know if the robot's gradual slowing down/breaking down was programmed from the start or if it is just really is from wear and tear/the robotics getting clogged up over the years? As a long-term exhibition (3 yrs), it would be eerie and interesting if it was actually programmed to slow down since that meant that earlier viewers of the exhibition were intended to have a quite different experience of the piece if they were to ever revisit it years later.

    • @samuraijackson241
      @samuraijackson241 11 місяців тому +16

      I would like to think that the slowing down is just from wear and tear, and it was intentionally left unattended to make it gradually slow down, to fit the intention of the artists.

  • @anonomooose
    @anonomooose Рік тому +35

    This is the kind of piece that means something different for every viewer. To me, it reflects struggles with mental health. Trying desperately to keep itself contained, dancing to show that’s it’s ok to those who care. Becoming more tired as years of its struggle have worn it down. Sometimes you need to ask for help. It’s not a sign of weakness. Sometimes you truly can’t help yourself

  • @AnnaBee03
    @AnnaBee03 8 місяців тому

    If I pass away is a beautiful but sad piece. It truly is better than any art piece I have seen.

  • @seacrystal6189
    @seacrystal6189 7 місяців тому

    An interpretation I haven't seen despite thinking it would be very popular is that this work represents self-harm. "Can't help myself" can also be read as "I just can't resist". The arm looks a lot like a razor and it believes that it's doing something to solve a problem but is just causing blood to go in a different direction. The same way that hurting yourself will make you feel better temporarily, only to hurt you more in the long run. In the end, self-harm will only result in an urge for more severe self-harm, in this context meaning, more and more blood will spill while it gets harder and harder to clean it
    I also love the interpretation that it represents the menial tasks and soulcrushing jobs we need to do every day in order to survive. I also believe it can be aplied to drug addiction, and pretty much every addiction really
    Either way, I feel like most interpretations will be a variation of "doing work that has no payoff". Sort of like a modern myth of Sisyphus

  • @YourPalKindred
    @YourPalKindred Рік тому +138

    In regards to the piece featuring the dogs, I think as long as the dogs aren't being harmed and the owners are consenting to it then there is no harm being done. Some of the dogs may even enjoy the exercise, I know my dog enjoyed running whenever she could.
    I also cried viewing "If I die". It is so beautiful and somber.

    • @mobotman6930
      @mobotman6930 Рік тому +45

      The dogs were fighting dogs that had been bred/raised to attack each other (dog fights are a thing). (from an interview with the artist)

    • @YourPalKindred
      @YourPalKindred Рік тому +34

      @@mobotman6930 Ok, with that additional context I no longer think its okay

    • @Lordzilla
      @Lordzilla Рік тому +9

      it wasn't never okay this way more messaged than you think people here need to research before opening their clueless mouths

    • @sinisterthoughts2896
      @sinisterthoughts2896 8 місяців тому +4

      The owners consent has absolutely nothing to do with their well being to be fair, only to the legality since they are property. It still causes duress in the dogs, which is still bad.

    • @wondernexus3d482
      @wondernexus3d482 5 місяців тому

      @lordzilla are you vegan?

  • @CrowFeatherQuill
    @CrowFeatherQuill 11 місяців тому

    I always saw as the nature of addictive personalities, it could be bad love, drugs, alcohol, doom scrolling, anything and everything that at the same time brings us a short term joy while slowly, ever so slowly killing you.
    It's the opposite of the giving tree. It take and takes and takes the liquid back, like reciclying bad blood. I love this piece.

  • @sahanasen1322
    @sahanasen1322 8 місяців тому +1

    Any idea where I can find their "Archive" of their pieces.....I have grown curious, thanks to this video!! 1:44 ?

  • @Kekatronic
    @Kekatronic Рік тому +56

    They went to far making a wall of living animals, those people are actual sociopaths

    • @darianstarfrog
      @darianstarfrog Рік тому +1

      They were dead already

    • @ColdNorth0628
      @ColdNorth0628 Рік тому +18

      @@darianstarfrog false. You can see on the top end in the video a animal writhe and jump

    • @Lordzilla
      @Lordzilla Рік тому +1

      Frog is lying

    • @goliathcraft6571
      @goliathcraft6571 Рік тому

      ​@@darianstarfrog 3:50 .

    • @BaHkoE
      @BaHkoE 11 місяців тому

      How about the pillar made of human fat?! They are PSYCHOPATHS 😬

  • @clownworld4655
    @clownworld4655 Рік тому +13

    As a snake breeder that reptile “wall” pisses me off. I have no problem with killing and eating animals, but that’s just messed up

  • @justthat69
    @justthat69 8 місяців тому

    I can very much respect and feel the same way about artists behind this.
    When I draw, I like to be uncensored and un filter mind, and whatever comes out. comes out.. One minute, drawing some cute anime girl next minute working a realistic spring trap with noses rip off and very much enjoyed where my creativity takes me so i can really relate to having an unfiltered mindset.

  • @av90750
    @av90750 7 місяців тому +1

    And then Twitter users claimed that they suffered more than that bot

  • @star_mxlk_
    @star_mxlk_ Рік тому +34

    This piece gave me a large sense of ocd, tired but a perfectionist. Getting more and more tired through the repeated action of trying to make everything the exact way you want. Like the title of the piece, it(or you), cant help yourself but keep trying abd trying no matter how hard abd exhaustion the action becomes until someone else tells you its been enough- and you're dragged away from having to continue this meaningless and repetitive actions that's only brought you so little joy.

  • @emmarina3525
    @emmarina3525 Рік тому +92

    Everything they do and their attitude towards art disgusts me, seriously, art is about expression, not torturing animals.
    She says the animals being tortured represent our struggle, but she has absolutely no right to say that when she's the one putting them in that situation when she had all the chances to let them live a good life.
    It's a disgusting attitude towards art and has no real regard for life or the ethics of the work on it. At least people paint with their own blood to make a statement

    • @darianstarfrog
      @darianstarfrog Рік тому +2

      They were dead, the dogs had fun

    • @pigwhaleg
      @pigwhaleg Рік тому +25

      @@darianstarfrog they were alive, the dogs were fighting dogs.

    • @Lordzilla
      @Lordzilla Рік тому +1

      @@darianstarfrog you should be treated like that then let's see if you will keep being ignorant

    • @error-try-again-later
      @error-try-again-later Рік тому +15

      She clearly doesn't understand (or care) about her own message. Of course the clout-chasing sociopaths of the art world think watching something die for a few hours is peak art 💀

    • @nguyenlequangdinh5528
      @nguyenlequangdinh5528 Рік тому +5

      ​@@darianstarfrog as seen in the video most of them died but there were some frog trying to free them self and a snake body moved on it own for a bit

  • @fhagalliciogomes
    @fhagalliciogomes 9 місяців тому +2

    One must imagine the machine happy...

  • @kaeson359
    @kaeson359 Рік тому +116

    Damn dude, nice work. I honestly had no idea this existed before this video but wow, what a great topic to cover. For me, when I look at this robot, and hear the story behind it, I do feel sadness. Machines are built by us, they exist to fulfill functions laid out by our programming. Even AI has to be fed information, it must be supplied with elements of humanity in order to imitate what we want. To me, this piece answers the question...what does a machine do in the absence of humanity? This machine was created to fulfill a function: "clean up this mess and dance for the humans." But then its creators abandoned it. It continued to do what it was programmed to do, but without humanity to clean its parts, reset its programs, repair its defects, etc., it just couldn't do it anymore. It was an orphan in a cage doing the only thing it knew how to do. Its hard not to personify the robot, even if it is just executing code. We're watching it die in real time, metaphorically speaking, while trying to do what it thinks its supposed to. Maybe its about authoritarianism, maybe its about monotony in the workforce, maybe its about how God abandoned his children, I don't really know. But art is subjective, and this piece makes me personally feel sad, and curious, and above all else...lonely. I love it.

  • @nerdypenguin9164
    @nerdypenguin9164 Рік тому +54

    I can't pinpoint exactly why, but this piece inspired genuine fear in me. Maybe because I see myself in the movement of the arm, the slight uncanny valley nature of its dancing (again, just what i feel when i see it) and performing. The complete state of depression by the end, just struggling to do what its meant to. And it instills fear in me. Beautiful amd haunting.

    • @sekiezkogg
      @sekiezkogg 9 місяців тому

      The substance also strongly resembles blood when it's pooled across surfaces, especially in grand quantities

  • @dawnyzero0
    @dawnyzero0 9 місяців тому

    I love seeing peoples interpretations of art and it's fascinating to see the different variety of idea's.
    As for me
    The name, "I can't help myself" combined with the box, the "blood" and repetition. Especially with the dancing makes it feel like finding enjoyment in life. Whether it's something complicated or simple, the act alone brings purpose. The machine has only the act of sweeping the fluid and dancing. Doesn't need anything else. Blood doesn't power it, it's just something to do.
    Maybe the blood could mean that machines and humans aren't that different. Trying to find something to pass the time, but machines don't have to think, only do. Life is more messy, ever-changing and frustrating. We're both in a box where we can find some enjoyment. We can't help ourselves but try and escape the boredom and monotony.
    Either way, we all slow down eventually.
    Do I believe this is the "true meaning" of the art?
    Nope. I can think of some other messages it can represent. Maybe it doesn't mean anything, just an idea of "Hey, what if we made a robot clean up some red liquid to shock people?" and I'd be happy with that. Doesn't stop me from finding my own meaning from it.
    It's my box, let me clean it how I like.
    Would love to see how others see it.

  • @Dr.TaxEvasion
    @Dr.TaxEvasion 10 місяців тому +1

    “What is my purpose?”
    “To scoop a blood looking substance”
    “Oh my god”

  • @babyyoshi3099
    @babyyoshi3099 Рік тому +20

    These people are psychopaths. How the hell was the curtain of living creatures allowed?

    • @MarcoCam1314
      @MarcoCam1314 Рік тому

      Is china, what did you expect, actual respect for animals? They cant even respect other humans.

  • @rgb3234
    @rgb3234 Рік тому +67

    This is an amazing study; thank you for taking the time to make this video! I thoroughly enjoyed watching it through and through.

  • @deboraluz27
    @deboraluz27 8 місяців тому +1

    This robot realy reminds me of the iterators, toiling away at an impossible task given to them by their creators long after they've departed as their systems break and crumble over the cycles. In the end of it, a small creature takes them all into the void and a new era unfold long after they've left

  • @fracture333
    @fracture333 11 місяців тому +1

    this makes me apprechiate the fact even more, that im an engineer and have to work on something new, something fresh all the time, and I actually feel like my job is one of my hobbies. As someone working with machines, I never thought I would feel bad for one.

  • @Everfalling
    @Everfalling Рік тому +35

    that first post that went around bugged the hell out of me because of how it was worded as a claim of fact in what the robot was meant to be doing and how it worked physically. if it had been framed as the persons perception of the work and their own take on its movements it would have been a great piece to read. I donno i just hate when people take things and confidently misrepresent them and cause millions of people to learn about something within a context that isn't real.

  • @UnkNwN334
    @UnkNwN334 Рік тому +88

    Does the liquid resembling blood have any significance? Loved the vid

    • @jamiecurran3544
      @jamiecurran3544 Рік тому +18

      It's 100% blood!😳 it even congealed n turned brownish black looking over time!🤢😁✌️

    • @lilibear3561
      @lilibear3561 Рік тому +28

      It's some kind of oil that just reddened with age. Definitely not blood, blood dries and congeals. Wouldn't last more than a few days if it was blood

    • @jamiecurran3544
      @jamiecurran3544 Рік тому

      @@lilibear3561 it did look congealed in places maybe it was some kind of oil however we all know it was supposed to represent blood!😁✌️

    • @icefeatherchan
      @icefeatherchan Рік тому

      The fact they murdered tons of animals for their previous exhibitions and they just "can't help themselves". This comment is a joke interpretation, their "art" is animal torture.

    • @jamiecurran3544
      @jamiecurran3544 Рік тому

      @@icefeatherchan you're not wrong though!😁✌️

  • @avery4149
    @avery4149 10 місяців тому

    I saw it in relation to what the artist mentioned; that we in terms of human progression are much like the machine, when ever new invention or technology are made, we are energetic about it like it is the beginning of an new era, yet as time when on, the technology that once brought us joy and inspiration are now as mundane as our everyday life and eventually to be retired and let newer inventions and technology replaces it. The unachievable task and the uncontainable splash are the cost we are willing to ignore just to see those technologies come to life.

  • @spudeism
    @spudeism 10 місяців тому

    Funny how this video got recommended to me after having some problems with similar robotic arm at work.
    Said arm picks up one or two boxes, places those on a pallet in set pattern and for set layers. Sometimes it just would not place the box properly and it would fall of the pallet or be tilted.
    Me and my workmate were wondering and troubleshooting for a while, cleaned up some sensors, checked if there's any leaks or wear and tear. Nothing. Sometimes it would just randomly place the box badly.
    Then my workmate noticed that railing on a conveyor belt that lead to the robotic arm was little off so boxes that went to the place to be picked up were not at the right spot, only like 1cm or 2cm off. We fixed the railing so the boxes were guided properly and problem was solved. Robo-arm continued its work without any troubles for rest of the shift.

  • @chelsie1450
    @chelsie1450 Рік тому +93

    The robot piece made me sob like a baby for an hour straight. I felt so many emotions including empathy and understanding. I’ve never seen an art piece that evoked so many intense emotions all at one time. Unbelievably beautiful.

  • @Topikkaperna
    @Topikkaperna Рік тому +7

    i think that by "cant help myself" they meant that people work happily when they are young but when they work for a long time, they get dull. that working sucks the life of people.

  • @abandonedmuse
    @abandonedmuse 10 днів тому

    As an art piece it is truly one of the most brilliant i have ever seen. It makes you feel empathy for a stupid robot. It’s the combination of things done on purpose that make you feel so disturbed. Amazing artists, all in all.

  • @DrHobbo-ot8ue
    @DrHobbo-ot8ue 9 місяців тому +3

    One must imagine the blood robot happy

  • @xbox360hurley4
    @xbox360hurley4 Рік тому +80

    Glad you're back and survived the hacking. Great video 🙏

  • @HomingVibe
    @HomingVibe Рік тому +30

    When art displays monotony better than monotony itself