The issue is that STEM isn't STEAM, math isn't a creative subject, neither is chemistry or physics. Most of what you will be doing in any STEM degree course involves next to no creativity. Do you know what math courses I needed to take for mechanical engineering? Three calculus courses, a matrix algebra course and differential equations. Do you know how much creativity I needed for those courses? Zero. The same is true of all the rest of the basics, chemistry, physics, autocad, matlab, even actual engineering courses like statics and dynamics. There was a straightforward solution to problems and you need to understand what that straightforward solution is and how it works to utilize it in other courses. Sure you might convince artistically oriented people to choose STEM subjects this way, but they won't be competent or happy in those subjects because they won't use their primary skills or do what they primarily want to do. This idea of STEAM seems to be formed by the idea that engineers are really people with sketchbooks who suddenly have an epiphany and decide to make a new engine or something and sketch it and bam new engine. In reality creativity in STEM is fairly close to the bottom in importance.
37712 engineering imo is not all about the technical side of it. There are also many creative elements element. Product design,software design, all these bring forth creative skills and innovation from the individual’s end. Without art, we wouldn’t we able to have invented a world in which we’re always improving. Creating new ideas require innovation and innovation brings us back to the roots of creativity. Besides, art is all about not being completely textbook bound and exploring endless ideas. This gives kids especially a chance to feel freed from the mindset where everything should be done the way it is taught
@@sharvahgobithasan5655 actually I personally do software engineering and I can tell you that you are full of shit, there is nothing creative or artistic about it, it is a logical and technical process. At most, you use your enginuity (not creativity, much less art) to create a good software structure and you go from there but there is no artistic or creative part to it. Also, innovation and creation do not require art, necesity is the mother of all creation. The simple fact that we need something leads us to find a way to create something to obtain that something. That is why it is said that necesity is the mother of all creation. With regards to product design, you also dont need art or creativity you just designe it so that it will work as intended. function, performance, and reliability are king here not artistic creativity, we leave that up to the idiots at marketing.
@@37712 why do you have to be so mean though, everyone is entitled to their own opinion and perception of how these types of curriculums can be incorporated. :)
@@aqeelahabrahams2975 are you a child? Maybe you should go back to your safe space and never come back out to the real wolrd, people like you have been coddled all their life and the moment reality hits them they get traumatized. I am just stating the facts as clearly and honestly as I can. I cant tell you how many times I went in to difficult class that involved math and or physics, where we started out the semester with a full class of men and women of all races and by the end of the class there where only about 10 to 15 people left, some times even less, mostly Asians, some white, all men, because the majority of the classroom had been filled by people like you who had no idea what they where going in to, much less about the fact that math is all about process of operation not art. I have seen so many people drop out or change their degree because they thought that stem was fun and easy like arts or feminist studies only to find out that stem is hard and they end up failing again and again untill they drop out of school or change their degree and this is very demoralizing for them. Most stem classes required you to know all the material from your previous class otherwise you will fail, and many people really dont have the brains to learn most of these difficult subjects. People like you simply want to merge arts in to stem so that it will make arts majors feel better or at least more important than what they really are by taking away some of the reputation and prestige from stem majors who had to work really hard to get where they are today. In all honesty art really has no place in stem. If you do end up merging arts in to stem you will no succeed in making arts degrees more prestigious, you will only make all the rest of the majors look worthless and drag them down with the arts degree, but people will still be able to tell that an engineering major is not as worthless as an arts major.
Did music in science and math? Each note has a frequency and the music notation is fractions. A great science project to build and musical instruments which requires knowledge of math and science.
Changing the word from stem to steam to be more inclusive is just reinventing the wheel called "Academia".
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The issue is that STEM isn't STEAM, math isn't a creative subject, neither is chemistry or physics. Most of what you will be doing in any STEM degree course involves next to no creativity. Do you know what math courses I needed to take for mechanical engineering? Three calculus courses, a matrix algebra course and differential equations. Do you know how much creativity I needed for those courses? Zero. The same is true of all the rest of the basics, chemistry, physics, autocad, matlab, even actual engineering courses like statics and dynamics. There was a straightforward solution to problems and you need to understand what that straightforward solution is and how it works to utilize it in other courses.
Sure you might convince artistically oriented people to choose STEM subjects this way, but they won't be competent or happy in those subjects because they won't use their primary skills or do what they primarily want to do. This idea of STEAM seems to be formed by the idea that engineers are really people with sketchbooks who suddenly have an epiphany and decide to make a new engine or something and sketch it and bam new engine. In reality creativity in STEM is fairly close to the bottom in importance.
37712 engineering imo is not all about the technical side of it. There are also many creative elements element. Product design,software design, all these bring forth creative skills and innovation from the individual’s end. Without art, we wouldn’t we able to have invented a world in which we’re always improving. Creating new ideas require innovation and innovation brings us back to the roots of creativity. Besides, art is all about not being completely textbook bound and exploring endless ideas. This gives kids especially a chance to feel freed from the mindset where everything should be done the way it is taught
@@sharvahgobithasan5655 actually I personally do software engineering and I can tell you that you are full of shit, there is nothing creative or artistic about it, it is a logical and technical process. At most, you use your enginuity (not creativity, much less art) to create a good software structure and you go from there but there is no artistic or creative part to it. Also, innovation and creation do not require art, necesity is the mother of all creation. The simple fact that we need something leads us to find a way to create something to obtain that something. That is why it is said that necesity is the mother of all creation. With regards to product design, you also dont need art or creativity you just designe it so that it will work as intended. function, performance, and reliability are king here not artistic creativity, we leave that up to the idiots at marketing.
@@37712 why do you have to be so mean though, everyone is entitled to their own opinion and perception of how these types of curriculums can be incorporated. :)
@@aqeelahabrahams2975 are you a child? Maybe you should go back to your safe space and never come back out to the real wolrd, people like you have been coddled all their life and the moment reality hits them they get traumatized. I am just stating the facts as clearly and honestly as I can. I cant tell you how many times I went in to difficult class that involved math and or physics, where we started out the semester with a full class of men and women of all races and by the end of the class there where only about 10 to 15 people left, some times even less, mostly Asians, some white, all men, because the majority of the classroom had been filled by people like you who had no idea what they where going in to, much less about the fact that math is all about process of operation not art. I have seen so many people drop out or change their degree because they thought that stem was fun and easy like arts or feminist studies only to find out that stem is hard and they end up failing again and again untill they drop out of school or change their degree and this is very demoralizing for them. Most stem classes required you to know all the material from your previous class otherwise you will fail, and many people really dont have the brains to learn most of these difficult subjects. People like you simply want to merge arts in to stem so that it will make arts majors feel better or at least more important than what they really are by taking away some of the reputation and prestige from stem majors who had to work really hard to get where they are today. In all honesty art really has no place in stem. If you do end up merging arts in to stem you will no succeed in making arts degrees more prestigious, you will only make all the rest of the majors look worthless and drag them down with the arts degree, but people will still be able to tell that an engineering major is not as worthless as an arts major.
Did music in science and math? Each note has a frequency and the music notation is fractions. A great science project to build and musical instruments which requires knowledge of math and science.
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