Admired how Stephen Park does interview. Fluent in English and Korean with deep understanding of US and Korean culture and most importantly, do not incite and calm, and ask thorough questions, leading interviewees to inform the audience.
I can only imagine. If they are convinced they are releasing a spy alive but don't want to release secrets and also don't want a full on war.... some method of slow silencing would make logical sense as a tactic despite being incredibly unethical and messed up. Having him pass away on home soil is the least dramatic outcome politically but my heart breaks for him and his friends and family. 💔 The whole thing is just awful in every way.
awful, sure... but then, you have to be completely dimwitted to think you can just roll up in North Korea of all places and get yourself a little souvenir or whatever retarded thing it is that he did. Man, with a brain like that he would've found his demise some other way. It's almost like he had it coming.
This guy is amazing, he is so compassionate and so well spoken, i am grateful we get to hear about north korea from north Koreans, and thank you asian boss for your content
2:36 This is a great description of coercion. Many studies in recent years have shown how easy it is to coerce anyone into admitting to doing something they didn't do; it's one of the many reasons why confession alone is not considered sufficient in many country's courts. It's sounds crazy since it sounds like something you could confidently say you'd never do, but you're likely not any special in this regard. Unfortunately, such practices are still seen to an extent in some form in pretty much every country around the world still, but I do think there has been progress in this area
He must've thought that he could end his suffering from torture by confessing knowing that in a normal country his confession wouldn't be solid proof, but in north korea it was proof and they were willing to kill him to keep that proof from being contradicted, so his confession is what killed him
He could been behaved in a legal way. He steeled a poster from a wall as a souvenir. He had been alive if he didn't git drunk, going to the church and steel the poster and try to bring it home.
I spent 6 months interviewing the men who rescued Otto Warmbier, with the exception of Joe Yun, who wouldn't talk to me. The bottom line is that no one will ever know. Full stop. The likely scenario was that he was administered a CNS depressant, then had a cardiac arrest from respiratory depression and was resuscitated but had anoxic brain injury. The North Koreans gave some possibility of botulism but that was unlikely. They submitted that he had received some analogue to Benadryl(antihistamine) and oral calamine. Oral Calamine doesn't exist in North America and the antihistamine was some North Korean Variant. Of Course anaphylaxis is also possible, but we won't know that. The pan scans revealed in America revealed nothing. MRI and nerve conduction tests did not corroborate anything. The coroner could come to no definite conclusion, but a true autopsy wasn't conducted. Many of the findings of torture may not be found over a year out but This scenario is somewhat consistent with what this North Korean Defector says( but he wasn't directly involved).
If the North Koreans have been as dedicated to chemical warfare R&D as this man says, I'm sure they've figured out ways to turn a man into a vegetable without leaving a trace.
You make more sense than this North Korean man, the whole interview he was like, giving his personal thoughts, opinions, etc, conclusion: He doesn’t know anything what happened to the American, “ he said the young man was a chicken, of course he said that, he saw him cry on tv,” that is the closed he gets from saying something that is a fact. He doesn’t know anything, why did they interviewed him?!! For something so serious like a dead of a young person, Assia TV interview anyone that found on the street and said “I’m from North K. I was there when the torture Otto Warmbier”. What a shame, but what about the interviewer Mr. Park why did he continue with this interview, he should know better.
Very well constructed interview. Thank you for sharing your thoughts on the matter. Otto and his family are forever in our hearts. I'm so sorry they lost their son
I have traveled a lot, and there are many places I still want to go, but North Korea is not on my list. It's one of those places where your money will directly support the regime.
@@generalmartok3990 that was what ultimately put me off. There was regular tourism trips going there at the time. But in the space of time of me considering it an NK solider shot a tourist dead and that put a definitive stop to the whole thing 😬
if tourists behave and follow the itinerary, nothing will come of it like the other 10 americans in his group. it might be harmless fun to disrespect another culture but a slap on the wrist encourages many others to do the same. thais and indonesians have fought back against these unruly western behavior in recent years.
@@pepelepew1227 it's not about what would happen to you but where your money goes. The beautiful tragedy you see on tour is kept alive with the help of your money. The lives of the people suffering there don't get better because you popped by to 'enrich' yourself. It's like visiting a zoo.
A small dose slow release of certain mercury compounds could get you into vegetative state in a week and then sudden death after that without any trace or symptoms right after the injection. There's an accident occurred with a Chemical professor from a well known Uni in US, she died from a low dose mercury poisoning. she thought the mercury compound molecules couldn't penetrate her gloves, she's wrong. She's in a vegetative state less than a week after the bioaccumulation phase, without any major symptoms in the day of her collapse into coma.
@GoldenSandwich that's pure mercury and some mercury compounds, in a slow release form, it won't reach your kidney until it's too late, won't be in your blood if it's tested a few days after inserted
@GoldenSandwich and if you're wondering, it's dimethyl mercury in a slow release capsule that I'm talking about. A pipette drop in a slow release enclosed capsule inserted to your guts is capable to do that with delayed poisoning feature. you won't detect it right away until the capsule is thin enough so the dimethyl mercury can permeate slowly, and when DMM changes to methyl mercury, it will be too late. Because methylmercury will affect your brain right away after it crosses the brain barrier.
If they never found mercury on him but could find on the prof, then its not mercury. Is that so hard to comprehend? Only other reason is that they did and US covered it up.
This guy is putting a giant target on his back by agreeing to speak against the North Korean regime. Takes balls to have that level of courage as NK has already shown that it has agents everywhere.
Thanks for the second half of the interview and what he says really reminds me of the stories of what my late father told me about what the communists in Vietnam did to torture and force people to confess to things they did not do and so much more. One of the things they did was starve people which was cruel but common. Injecting poison was not surprising either and that was what my family suspected as well. I feel so bad for him and his family and hope that Otto is in a happier and better place wherever he is at now. So tragic…. Hopefully no one will ever risk their life in North Korea again. I feel so bad for the citizens of North Korea. Hopefully there is a day they can live a happy, free and prosperous life.
@@Manuqtix.Manuqtix My dad said it can happen at anytime as communists can punish you whenever they want to for no good reasons just like what North Korea did to Otto. I remember he said once my family was just having dinner and they knocked on our door. They took 2 of my relatives away and accused them of something they did not do. We then never heard from them again… My family never knew what happened to my 2 relatives.
The N. Koreans probably put a bag over his head and deprived him of oxygen. No signs of torture and they silenced him. Why would they want to silence him if he wasn’t mistreated? What kind of sick games were they playing?
I was listening to Jocko on Navy Seal Weir training. He said everyone EVERYONE has a breaking point. No one is immune to torture. The most important thing is not to give up intel that would compromise other people. You can give up intel which is ultimately useless or non-productive to stall. You can also come up with believable lies which can also serve to stall for time. The only difference between Otto and a trained Navy Seal is the time to be broken.
Trust me you will eventually tell them everything you know. There is no stalling or fake information technique that will last for a prolonged period of time. This is told to soldiers as propaganda. EVERYONE breaks under torture and no mitigation technique works in the end. Intelligence agencies know this.
@@nonegone7170 I have a very hard time believing that. There is always another layer of torture that can go on and on. Not that I would personally be inclined to do so, but I think I could break any person given enough time. That would include the good cop, bad cop approach after a certain amount of torture.
@@JRichard86 Belief doesn't matter, there are documented cases of such occurrences during for example WW2. They are the exception to the rule of course.
The whole video has parts where the NK guy explains that before every major diplomatic meeting, NK will capture and coerce foreigners to confess to spying, then use their release as a bargaining chip during the meeting. In this case, it was the meeting between Trump and Kim in Singapore.
The mysterious circumstances surrounding Otto Warmbier's death after his North Korea visit raises important questions about human rights abuses and the accountability of authoritarian regimes. Amazing story like this should be featured on OTR in the Philippines! :)
What caused the death of Otto Warmbier? And a declaration filed by Daniel Kanter, the neurologist who was the lead physician for Otto Warmbier upon his return at the University of Cincinnati Medical Center, said Otto died of severe brain damage resulting from being deprived of oxygen, which was caused by “the sustained cessation of blood flow to the brain” ...Oct 27, 2018
This is a very sensitive topic and it's definitely gonna bring the attention of everyone around the world. Kudos for the bravery to the both of you and stay safe, stay very wary at all times🙏🙇♀️🙇♂️🌞
I just don't understand why people still go to North Korea? Or even go to the North Sentinel Island? The last person who went to that island was also an American. It doesn't make sense to me.
Probably to complete I visit every country on the earth challenge. For bragging rights. Completionist. Perfectionist. I'm not surprised. People are weird.
Am I the only person in the world who had to watch lobotomy videos in middle school? How has the cause of his death not already been so obvious? They literally describe post-procedure results as the patients being "vegetative." It leaves no traces on the outside either. I'm guessing they did that no-air room for torture and gave him a lobotomy before sending him off.
How this guy, Chul-eun Lee manage to defect from North Korea is a miracle but thankfully he made and lived to tell the tale. In regards to Otto Warmbier, I heard a different story. RIP Otto.
It's obvious what happened to him: they tortured him so he'd confess to something he didn't do, and then did something to him so he wouldn't live to tell the tale. _What_ exactly they did to him, we'll never know for sure.
I never thought about it this way but this makes sense. Initially I thought what happened was Otto tried to hang or suffocate himself and had permanent brain damage. But I didn't think that perhaps chemicals could be used to silence a witness.
This needs to be retitled "POSSIBLE REASON Otto Warmbier....." While this was a great interview, good journalism doesn't speak in absolutes when the person you're interviewing wasn't actually there and is only 70-80% certain. You guys can do better.
Totally agree but sadly this is UA-cam and they need to attract people to watch or they let volunteers do the title that don't have much knowledge about this.
The defector is lying there is no poison whose aftermath can't be detected by modern autopsy, but there could be a chance of injecting air into his vessel ( normal air will do) it does put you into stroke which can leads to a coma and organ failure. Pretty hard to detect after 24 hours too. Source me. Not doctor but I have learnt about it during my biology class a long time ago.
Also seeing how they broke this clip into a few enticing headline clips with catchy titles. It’s giving exploitation for views. Also don’t understand why this guy is risking his like with all this info
whoever has IQ +50 knows he was drugged ... possible? he was marked as SPY ... so you are going to tell me they will release a SPY with all infos? this is north korea wake up ... i was surprised he wasnt delivered without head
@@Rooted_Locs you need to read a little bit more about him or north korea ... one north korea defector girl - she said she went to hospital and next to a hospital was field full of corpses who didnt made it in that hospital, as you see every day corpses from people died on starvation etc etc ... this guy he even said if they kill him he is ok with that, at least he spread the news about how bad n korea is ... right now everybody EVERYBODY underestimating n korea - soon their nukes will be able to reach cities in US, not to mention their biochemical weapons ... n korea is poor? dream on - they making billions from making weapons and selling them ... they just dont give food to people so they are starved, starved means they have other problems then politics for example like "find food" yes you read it well, its a state where they starve their own citizens so they are too weak to protest ... many things happening there normal people cant even imagine
It wouldn't be hard. It would be given a drug so he would not remove remember anything. And put it on monitoring equipment, both cardiac and respiratory like one does for an operation Then they would put an anesthesia mask on him, and dialed down the oxygen flow. They monitor his heart rate and respiration is to make sure they don't kill him but they keep his blood oxygen low for long enough enough to wreck his brain. It could be done in any surgical operating (I am a retired MD who has been a lot of operating rooms)
@asianboss His parents didn't do an actual autopsy, which I find curious and even suspicious. Either they DID do an autopsy but didn't release results, potentially due to a higher purpose advised by the US govt, or they were just plain dumb and didn't have it done. It's really, really strange that they didn't do a full autopsy.
Warmbier booked his trip through an agency that “specializes in destinations your mother wouldn’t approve of”. Their motto was something to that effect. Any innocent person tortured or killed is sad but he really made his own bed when he went to n Korea then disrespected their government. Something millions of locals are smart enough not to do.
If they are scare of one American student trying to topple a whole regime, that just shows how threatened they are of America’s superpower as a militaristic nation
Thank you for sharing, however this is frightening to think a country could be so vicious against human beings. I feel for the American family who lost their son. 😔
Have you heard about the 200+ persons that received the death penalty yet were innocent in the US? How vicious a country can be against its own citizens.
Having followed the Archie Battersbee case closely in the UK, I'm actually more inclined to think Otto attempted suicide by asphyxiation (hanging) and was stopped by guards, but not before brain damage occurred. There's definite proof the brain damage occurred at least a year before the agreed swap with America. Pyongyang was terrified and trying to hide his condition from America. There's a great writeup on this with lots of interviews and background as to why NK takes excellent care of white hostages, and indeed the excellent medical care they took of him.
Interesting. But it seems like a lot could have been cleared up if the regime just explained this is what happened. Sure, most people would doubt them, but I'm sure some medical examiners would see that it makes sense.
@@generalmartok3990 The ball is at NK’s feet. They should make an attempt to explain to the whole world which otherwise arouse deep suspicion against them.
It's not that people would doubt them - it's that they would be deemed incapable. I think they were afraid that individuals would question how they (under 24 hour surveillance) allowed a high security prisoners the material and time to hand themselves.
It's honestly scary to think that this is happening in north korea and that resources are put into the development of chemical engineering against humanity.
America does it's biolabs in other countries, not justifying it . Just saying America will never let ethics get in the way of their military superiority and intelligence gathering.
@@analyticalmindset very true. operation paper clip, we bailed out japans unit 731; the US has shown time and time that military intelligence is more important than any scruples
I can’t imagine what they did to Otto or why. He was just a kid. My son is the same age. I hope those ruthless, soulless, creatures find the mental and spiritual help they desperately need. I hope no other American sets foot on that corrupt and despicable land.
Man’s bold for this interview. I don’t know that I’d have the guts to talk about this on record if I knew what he knows. Biological warfare is horrifying.
Kinda wild he just openly admitted to North Korea not only being advance in biochemical warfare, but that drugs specifically are one of the main points.
I still don't understand why anyone would be going into a hostile country it's like you know they don't like you they told you they don't like you your country said its a bad idea like how stupid are you to ignore so many red flags
Going to North Korea as an American and stealing a poster of their supreme leader was frankly stupid. It's no different to walking into a bear's cave and poking him,.
Some say it was as simple as botulism toxin rendering Warmbier into vegetative state which the regime could cover up by saying he ate poisoned food unwittingly. Botulism does contaminate food often in damaged tins.
Why would someone visits North Korea especially if you are American. Other nations could face less consequences but for American they can be used as pawns. Considering that it is common knowledge why in the world would they visit there.
Actually, his parents refused an autopsy & only an external examination was performed. And that’s unfortunate, we will never know what caused Otto Warmbriars death. But what do you expect from somebody that thought it was ok to travel there in the first place?
I have heard that even Saudi prisons have unconventional ways of torturing people without poisoning or physically harming people. Someone told me that prisoners are kept alone in a dark room ,with no sound for years, and that these prisoners start hearing voices and noises that cannot be heard normally and these drive them crazy.
Depriving people of sensory stimulation is what the US also does to thousands of prisoners while they are put in isolation cells. The United Nations considers this torture.
And people have the audacity to say look for the bright side in life. Don't ignore the dark because it's spitting in someone's face. Sometimes you have to know what you are looking for to see anything.
I agree that a Gofundme account should be set up for those interested in wanting to help or support this guy in his attempt to try to start a new life. Especially if he’s trying to attend school to educate himself. Just my opinion.
they just gave a couple AND their 2 y/o baby to life in a labor camp for having a Bible! How sick is that?? I 've read about people who were in those camps & their stories are horrific. Americans in our still free country do not realize how blessed we are, and how unappreciative we are. I believe the day is coming when that stark truth hits us in the face. As faulty as I am I am so grateful God loves us still & is there to walk with us if we ask. Praying protection & deliverance for ALL THE PRISONERS & PEOPLE OF NORTH KOREA also China & evil regimes.
Also, take his comments with a grain of salt, he wasn't directly there and is speaking from assumptions. For example, saying North Korea has advancements in bio-warfare that not even American toxicologists can detect the drug? I don't buy that.
He even said Otto confessed to being a spy during the trial which he never did because unlike him we actually got to watch the trial. Once he said that I immediately wrote off the entire interview he was clearly in the dark and only knows what he was told by NK.
I respect you don’t monetize your videos. But as Asian Boss fan, I wish you can take more sustainable approach. Like, how about not just creating serious interview contents, but also lighter and shorter different type of contents and monetize this type of contents and get product placement/sponsors.
It shouldn't have, but obviously this kid and his family weren't the brightest. Not only did he travel to North Korea but he decided to be an idiot whilst there. How dumb ya wanna be
I watched four interviews from past DPRK American releases (before the YT video culling) Stephen something and others..they all said they were treated very respectfully, and given little labour jobs to do, like dig holes for nothing-but the NK citisens were beat regularily. The overall setiment was that DPRK was scared AF to hurt American prisoners. I believe Otto really did get sick from Botulism or whatever DPRK says it was.
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1:57 "But how can you not get scared in that environment?"
Thank you for showing empathy. It was horrible what happened.
Admired how Stephen Park does interview. Fluent in English and Korean with deep understanding of US and Korean culture and most importantly, do not incite and calm, and ask thorough questions, leading interviewees to inform the audience.
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Yes he is very professional
@Trinity M I'm glad you told that punk off
hes not have deep understang of korean culture though hes american
Its all in Asian?
I can only imagine. If they are convinced they are releasing a spy alive but don't want to release secrets and also don't want a full on war.... some method of slow silencing would make logical sense as a tactic despite being incredibly unethical and messed up. Having him pass away on home soil is the least dramatic outcome politically but my heart breaks for him and his friends and family. 💔 The whole thing is just awful in every way.
Time to rain fire 🔥🔥🔥 on that entire illegitimate country and liberate the people
awful, sure... but then, you have to be completely dimwitted to think you can just roll up in North Korea of all places and get yourself a little souvenir or whatever retarded thing it is that he did. Man, with a brain like that he would've found his demise some other way. It's almost like he had it coming.
Exactly
I doubt they actually believed he was a spy tho
Is it that easy to escape from North Korea? So many "defectors" now and girls are all young and pretty, guys are all top secret spies...I dunno but
This guy is amazing, he is so compassionate and so well spoken, i am grateful we get to hear about north korea from north Koreans, and thank you asian boss for your content
Plot twist: Guy he is interviewing is Chinese who speaks good Korean. Heheehhoohoo.
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@@DinoMan_6wow, that was so funny that I forgot to laugh 👏👏👏👏
Try again......or better yet, don't
Man just casually exposed how NK has advanced bioweapons. Truly terrifying.
Intelligence agencies know already.
@@jmatt98 not only intelligence agencies knows. Quite of few number of people do as well.
Like America does not have them ?
we all know that the US, China, Russia and Iran also have these facilities
@@falconheavy595forreal hahahahahaa america also has the craziest stuff on earth
This guy actually makes sense. Otto can't be a witness.
2:36 This is a great description of coercion. Many studies in recent years have shown how easy it is to coerce anyone into admitting to doing something they didn't do; it's one of the many reasons why confession alone is not considered sufficient in many country's courts. It's sounds crazy since it sounds like something you could confidently say you'd never do, but you're likely not any special in this regard. Unfortunately, such practices are still seen to an extent in some form in pretty much every country around the world still, but I do think there has been progress in this area
He must've thought that he could end his suffering from torture by confessing knowing that in a normal country his confession wouldn't be solid proof, but in north korea it was proof and they were willing to kill him to keep that proof from being contradicted, so his confession is what killed him
In the US confession is sufficient for capital punishment.
Sad what happened to Otto. Why would someone even think going to N Korea. I would not step a foot there. Not for any reason
He could been behaved in a legal way. He steeled a poster from a wall as a souvenir. He had been alive if he didn't git drunk, going to the church and steel the poster and try to bring it home.
I'm with you. Unless you asian or like Russian middle eastern I wouldn't go. They can just grab you and literally say anything. And that's it.
@@wenchefauske6898none of that is true lmao they made him say that give me a break
I spent 6 months interviewing the men who rescued Otto Warmbier, with the exception of Joe Yun, who wouldn't talk to me. The bottom line is that no one will ever know. Full stop. The likely scenario was that he was administered a CNS depressant, then had a cardiac arrest from respiratory depression and was resuscitated but had anoxic brain injury. The North Koreans gave some possibility of botulism but that was unlikely. They submitted that he had received some analogue to Benadryl(antihistamine) and oral calamine. Oral Calamine doesn't exist in North America and the antihistamine was some North Korean Variant. Of Course anaphylaxis is also possible, but we won't know that. The pan scans revealed in America revealed nothing. MRI and nerve conduction tests did not corroborate anything. The coroner could come to no definite conclusion, but a true autopsy wasn't conducted. Many of the findings of torture may not be found over a year out but This scenario is somewhat consistent with what this North Korean Defector says( but he wasn't directly involved).
If the North Koreans have been as dedicated to chemical warfare R&D as this man says, I'm sure they've figured out ways to turn a man into a vegetable without leaving a trace.
And who are you ? What’s your name and do you have any published work ?
The only truth is that he doesn't know.
You make more sense than this North Korean man, the whole interview he was like, giving his personal thoughts, opinions, etc, conclusion: He doesn’t know anything what happened to the American, “ he said the young man was a chicken, of course he said that, he saw him cry on tv,” that is the closed he gets from saying something that is a fact. He doesn’t know anything, why did they interviewed him?!! For something so serious like a dead of a young person, Assia TV interview anyone that found on the street and said “I’m from North K. I was there when the torture Otto Warmbier”. What a shame, but what about the interviewer Mr. Park why did he continue with this interview, he should know better.
Succinyl Choline maybe? A lethal dose in a somehow time released method.
Very well constructed interview. Thank you for sharing your thoughts on the matter. Otto and his family are forever in our hearts. I'm so sorry they lost their son
Stealing posters did not help?
At one point I wanted to visit that place to see it for myself, I'm glad someone talked me out of that idea. I was about the same age as Otto.
I have traveled a lot, and there are many places I still want to go, but North Korea is not on my list. It's one of those places where your money will directly support the regime.
Oooh no glad you didnt do that.
@@generalmartok3990 that was what ultimately put me off. There was regular tourism trips going there at the time. But in the space of time of me considering it an NK solider shot a tourist dead and that put a definitive stop to the whole thing 😬
if tourists behave and follow the itinerary, nothing will come of it like the other 10 americans in his group. it might be harmless fun to disrespect another culture but a slap on the wrist encourages many others to do the same. thais and indonesians have fought back against these unruly western behavior in recent years.
@@pepelepew1227 it's not about what would happen to you but where your money goes. The beautiful tragedy you see on tour is kept alive with the help of your money. The lives of the people suffering there don't get better because you popped by to 'enrich' yourself. It's like visiting a zoo.
Thanks!
7:16 that's actually very concerning
The sad part is he confessed thinking it would save his life, but his confession is what killed him
it's just a matter of time.. he's dead soon or later
Perhaps his confession saved him from worse torture or his friends also being arrested. We will never know.
Confession or no, he was a dead man walking...
This man is really brave to discuss this.
He probably has relatives suffering in this as is all of north Korea. Tragic. The a-hole in charge will eventually get justice I hope
A small dose slow release of certain mercury compounds could get you into vegetative state in a week and then sudden death after that without any trace or symptoms right after the injection.
There's an accident occurred with a Chemical professor from a well known Uni in US, she died from a low dose mercury poisoning. she thought the mercury compound molecules couldn't penetrate her gloves, she's wrong. She's in a vegetative state less than a week after the bioaccumulation phase, without any major symptoms in the day of her collapse into coma.
@GoldenSandwich that's pure mercury and some mercury compounds, in a slow release form, it won't reach your kidney until it's too late, won't be in your blood if it's tested a few days after inserted
@GoldenSandwich and if you're wondering, it's dimethyl mercury in a slow release capsule that I'm talking about. A pipette drop in a slow release enclosed capsule inserted to your guts is capable to do that with delayed poisoning feature. you won't detect it right away until the capsule is thin enough so the dimethyl mercury can permeate slowly, and when DMM changes to methyl mercury, it will be too late. Because methylmercury will affect your brain right away after it crosses the brain barrier.
If they never found mercury on him but could find on the prof, then its not mercury. Is that so hard to comprehend? Only other reason is that they did and US covered it up.
His state kinda sounds like organic mercury poisoning. But they would have known and would have tested for it.
She collapsed into a comma, wouldn't an exclamation have been better? Or even a full stop?
Let's hope that the people who did this will receive their well deserved penalty one day.
This guy is putting a giant target on his back by agreeing to speak against the North Korean regime. Takes balls to have that level of courage as NK has already shown that it has agents everywhere.
NOTE TO SELF: Vacationing in North Korea is a very bad idea.
It's like going to Mordor or Azkaban for a holiday.
Exactly
you might end up like the american guy. dead.
Not if you stay sober and follow the rules outlined by the travel agency and the local guides
Thanks for the second half of the interview and what he says really reminds me of the stories of what my late father told me about what the communists in Vietnam did to torture and force people to confess to things they did not do and so much more. One of the things they did was starve people which was cruel but common. Injecting poison was not surprising either and that was what my family suspected as well. I feel so bad for him and his family and hope that Otto is in a happier and better place wherever he is at now. So tragic…. Hopefully no one will ever risk their life in North Korea again. I feel so bad for the citizens of North Korea. Hopefully there is a day they can live a happy, free and prosperous life.
Vietnam?
I thought pol pot did those things
@@Manuqtix.Manuqtix Vietnam did similar things according to my dad. He told me quite a few stories about what he saw and experienced.
@@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj interesting, I'm from an ex soviet country and the communists in our country did similar stuff. Vile people.
@@TrinhNguyen-sh4fj was that during the war or post war?
@@Manuqtix.Manuqtix My dad said it can happen at anytime as communists can punish you whenever they want to for no good reasons just like what North Korea did to Otto. I remember he said once my family was just having dinner and they knocked on our door. They took 2 of my relatives away and accused them of something they did not do. We then never heard from them again… My family never knew what happened to my 2 relatives.
The N. Koreans probably put a bag over his head and deprived him of oxygen. No signs of torture and they silenced him. Why would they want to silence him if he wasn’t mistreated? What kind of sick games were they playing?
I was listening to Jocko on Navy Seal Weir training. He said everyone EVERYONE has a breaking point. No one is immune to torture. The most important thing is not to give up intel that would compromise other people. You can give up intel which is ultimately useless or non-productive to stall. You can also come up with believable lies which can also serve to stall for time.
The only difference between Otto and a trained Navy Seal is the time to be broken.
Trust me you will eventually tell them everything you know. There is no stalling or fake information technique that will last for a prolonged period of time. This is told to soldiers as propaganda. EVERYONE breaks under torture and no mitigation technique works in the end. Intelligence agencies know this.
You can give up all the intel you want that’s available online.
@@JRichard86 There have been examples of people who didn't break under such extreme duress.
Those people often wound up getting executed.
@@nonegone7170 I have a very hard time believing that. There is always another layer of torture that can go on and on. Not that I would personally be inclined to do so, but I think I could break any person given enough time. That would include the good cop, bad cop approach after a certain amount of torture.
@@JRichard86 Belief doesn't matter, there are documented cases of such occurrences during for example WW2.
They are the exception to the rule of course.
Asian Boss is the boss again! Excellent and very important subject, questions, and interviewee. Very brave Boss - keep it up
Thank You for showing me why I should never visit NK.
Probably they were going to use Otto as some sort of ransom but they then decided that wasn’t going to work. So he was labelled a spy!
The whole video has parts where the NK guy explains that before every major diplomatic meeting, NK will capture and coerce foreigners to confess to spying, then use their release as a bargaining chip during the meeting. In this case, it was the meeting between Trump and Kim in Singapore.
The mysterious circumstances surrounding Otto Warmbier's death after his North Korea visit raises important questions about human rights abuses and the accountability of authoritarian regimes. Amazing story like this should be featured on OTR in the Philippines! :)
Bottom line--don't go to North Korea on vacation if you're American.
What caused the death of Otto Warmbier?
And a declaration filed by Daniel Kanter, the neurologist who was the lead physician for Otto Warmbier upon his return at the University of Cincinnati Medical Center, said Otto died of severe brain damage resulting from being deprived of oxygen, which was caused by “the sustained cessation of blood flow to the brain” ...Oct 27, 2018
I heard this as well.
When he said "they do a lot of R&D" it sent chills down my back. I get unit 731 vibes.
This is a very sensitive topic and it's definitely gonna bring the attention of everyone around the world. Kudos for the bravery to the both of you and stay safe, stay very wary at all times🙏🙇♀️🙇♂️🌞
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RIP to the young American adventurer
I just don't understand why people still go to North Korea? Or even go to the North Sentinel Island? The last person who went to that island was also an American. It doesn't make sense to me.
For adventure (?)
Probably to complete I visit every country on the earth challenge. For bragging rights. Completionist. Perfectionist. I'm not surprised. People are weird.
to spy on them? and see what they are doing? are you that dumb
Actually, toxins that leave no traces are a very common thing and been around for ages. They used those in the Soviet Union too.
The headline is very misleading, it might be true, but even the person being interviewed cannot say 100% true.
60%-70% is already strong enough.
I think 70%-80% is far from enough because we are talking abt NK, and we all know how crazy the country is
@@bojongkia123from his perspective. He might be completely wrong.
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File this under Dead Men Tell No Tales.
Am I the only person in the world who had to watch lobotomy videos in middle school?
How has the cause of his death not already been so obvious? They literally describe post-procedure results as the patients being "vegetative."
It leaves no traces on the outside either. I'm guessing they did that no-air room for torture and gave him a lobotomy before sending him off.
How this guy, Chul-eun Lee manage to defect from North Korea is a miracle but thankfully he made and lived to tell the tale. In regards to Otto Warmbier, I heard a different story. RIP Otto.
Very Sad, Thank You for your program.
It's obvious what happened to him: they tortured him so he'd confess to something he didn't do, and then did something to him so he wouldn't live to tell the tale. _What_ exactly they did to him, we'll never know for sure.
I never thought about it this way but this makes sense. Initially I thought what happened was Otto tried to hang or suffocate himself and had permanent brain damage. But I didn't think that perhaps chemicals could be used to silence a witness.
This needs to be retitled "POSSIBLE REASON Otto Warmbier....." While this was a great interview, good journalism doesn't speak in absolutes when the person you're interviewing wasn't actually there and is only 70-80% certain. You guys can do better.
Totally agree but sadly this is UA-cam and they need to attract people to watch or they let volunteers do the title that don't have much knowledge about this.
The defector is lying there is no poison whose aftermath can't be detected by modern autopsy, but there could be a chance of injecting air into his vessel ( normal air will do) it does put you into stroke which can leads to a coma and organ failure. Pretty hard to detect after 24 hours too.
Source me. Not doctor but I have learnt about it during my biology class a long time ago.
Also seeing how they broke this clip into a few enticing headline clips with catchy titles. It’s giving exploitation for views. Also don’t understand why this guy is risking his like with all this info
whoever has IQ +50 knows he was drugged ... possible? he was marked as SPY ... so you are going to tell me they will release a SPY with all infos? this is north korea wake up ... i was surprised he wasnt delivered without head
@@Rooted_Locs you need to read a little bit more about him or north korea ... one north korea defector girl - she said she went to hospital and next to a hospital was field full of corpses who didnt made it in that hospital, as you see every day corpses from people died on starvation etc etc ... this guy he even said if they kill him he is ok with that, at least he spread the news about how bad n korea is ... right now everybody EVERYBODY underestimating n korea - soon their nukes will be able to reach cities in US, not to mention their biochemical weapons ... n korea is poor? dream on - they making billions from making weapons and selling them ... they just dont give food to people so they are starved, starved means they have other problems then politics for example like "find food" yes you read it well, its a state where they starve their own citizens so they are too weak to protest ... many things happening there normal people cant even imagine
Perhaps withdrawal from a substance could be the mechanism as well. Maybe harder to trace the absence of something. But, I’m not a toxicologist.
Otto Warmbier was never autopsied and the interviewer says that he was autopsied.
My grandpa use to say…”You have no business where you’re not wanted.” Sad for this young man. Vegetative state…even his body atrophy? Evil bass turds.
I was stationed in South Korea in the Army as an Intel Operative. Man oh man that regime is evil AF.
It wouldn't be hard. It would be given a drug so he would not remove remember anything. And put it on monitoring equipment, both cardiac and respiratory like one does for an operation
Then they would put an anesthesia mask on him, and dialed down the oxygen flow. They monitor his heart rate and respiration is to make sure they don't kill him but they keep his blood oxygen low for long enough enough to wreck his brain.
It could be done in any surgical operating
(I am a retired MD who has been a lot of operating rooms)
Amazing interview 🙌
This interview was very psychologically impactful for me. thank you
@asianboss His parents didn't do an actual autopsy, which I find curious and even suspicious. Either they DID do an autopsy but didn't release results, potentially due to a higher purpose advised by the US govt, or they were just plain dumb and didn't have it done. It's really, really strange that they didn't do a full autopsy.
Warmbier booked his trip through an agency that “specializes in destinations your mother wouldn’t approve of”. Their motto was something to that effect.
Any innocent person tortured or killed is sad but he really made his own bed when he went to n Korea then disrespected their government. Something millions of locals are smart enough not to do.
North Koreans and Russians are always complaining about being disrespected by someone or something. always someone else's fault.
If they are scare of one American student trying to topple a whole regime, that just shows how threatened they are of America’s superpower as a militaristic nation
They knew he would die so they released him. It's like mockery !
Thank you for sharing, however this is frightening to think a country could be so vicious against human beings. I feel for the American family who lost their son. 😔
Cool.
Now look up how many foreign families lost a son at the hands of the good ol' US of A. 😆
Have you heard about the 200+ persons that received the death penalty yet were innocent in the US? How vicious a country can be against its own citizens.
It is the same in the US.
Having followed the Archie Battersbee case closely in the UK, I'm actually more inclined to think Otto attempted suicide by asphyxiation (hanging) and was stopped by guards, but not before brain damage occurred. There's definite proof the brain damage occurred at least a year before the agreed swap with America. Pyongyang was terrified and trying to hide his condition from America. There's a great writeup on this with lots of interviews and background as to why NK takes excellent care of white hostages, and indeed the excellent medical care they took of him.
Interesting. But it seems like a lot could have been cleared up if the regime just explained this is what happened. Sure, most people would doubt them, but I'm sure some medical examiners would see that it makes sense.
@@generalmartok3990 The ball is at NK’s feet. They should make an attempt to explain to the whole world which otherwise arouse deep suspicion against them.
@@bojongkia123 That's...what I said.
Except trying to asphyxiate yourself has been known to cause extensive damage to your throat and neck
It's not that people would doubt them - it's that they would be deemed incapable. I think they were afraid that individuals would question how they (under 24 hour surveillance) allowed a high security prisoners the material and time to hand themselves.
well… its sad his picture is used like that in thumbnail. his family must not have wanted that
It's honestly scary to think that this is happening in north korea and that resources are put into the development of chemical engineering against humanity.
And you don’t think that the rest of the world, including us, has these capabilities?
We need to look a this in different wayy friend,,if north Korea don't have bio weapon and nuclear weapon there will be no more NK
America does it's biolabs in other countries, not justifying it . Just saying America will never let ethics get in the way of their military superiority and intelligence gathering.
This is propaganda by U.S government. Every socialist experience has been attacked and suppressed by them.
@@analyticalmindset very true. operation paper clip, we bailed out japans unit 731; the US has shown time and time that military intelligence is more important than any scruples
It hurts to have your head repeatedly bashed especially in the same spot over and over. Not the job of any government to bash in heads.
I’m not Asian but I love your videos! Keep them coming
You're not? Then what are you doing with your life!?
Get out of here dude, you are not asian so you have no rights here.
I can’t imagine what they did to Otto or why. He was just a kid. My son is the same age. I hope those ruthless, soulless, creatures find the mental and spiritual help they desperately need. I hope no other American sets foot on that corrupt and despicable land.
Maybe you should ask the US not to bother Korea?
@@psylee8687 🤡🤡🤡
They could have also used some kind of sound wave like what’s been done to some people working in American embassies in Cuba and China.
Man’s bold for this interview. I don’t know that I’d have the guts to talk about this on record if I knew what he knows. Biological warfare is horrifying.
He said like 10 times that he’s on,y guessing he got poisoned, yet you keep asking him if he’s certain??
Kinda wild he just openly admitted to North Korea not only being advance in biochemical warfare, but that drugs specifically are one of the main points.
I still don't understand why anyone would be going into a hostile country it's like you know they don't like you they told you they don't like you your country said its a bad idea like how stupid are you to ignore so many red flags
Going to North Korea as an American and stealing a poster of their supreme leader was frankly stupid. It's no different to walking into a bear's cave and poking him,.
It was stupid. but he didn't deserve his inhumane treatment from that dystopian country.
Kim makes things and never is punished.
Bush invaded a country and never punished.
usa never punished for various warcrimes
unfortunately until China stops backing North Korea it is going to be an uphill battle
USA, Russia, China, Saudi Arabia, Israel and many more countries did those things and never got punished by anyone
Especially USA, China and Russia
Some say it was as simple as botulism toxin rendering Warmbier into vegetative state which the regime could cover up by saying he ate poisoned food unwittingly. Botulism does contaminate food often in damaged tins.
thiis has loads of bravery to talk about what he knew about otto
This is USA propaganda.
Rip Otto. Gruesome demise
Why would someone visits North Korea especially if you are American. Other nations could face less consequences but for American they can be used as pawns. Considering that it is common knowledge why in the world would they visit there.
Actually, his parents refused an autopsy & only an external examination was performed. And that’s unfortunate, we will never know what caused Otto Warmbriars death. But what do you expect from somebody that thought it was ok to travel there in the first place?
Very good interview.
Here's the most relevant question. Why would a regular citizen go to North Korea in the first place??
Thank You Asian boss for this info
I have heard that even Saudi prisons have unconventional ways of torturing people without poisoning or physically harming people. Someone told me that prisoners are kept alone in a dark room ,with no sound for years, and that these prisoners start hearing voices and noises that cannot be heard normally and these drive them crazy.
psychological torture ^^
Depriving people of sensory stimulation is what the US also does to thousands of prisoners while they are put in isolation cells. The United Nations considers this torture.
Please keep him safe! He’s risking so much to give this information! I’m worried for him
You’re posting this clickbait again?
This interview was fantastic and brings to light the darkness of how far North Korea is going with biological warfare. Very informative, Asian Boss!
Whatever really happened nobody will ever know, but it's a terrible sad story and a horrific fate and death for a 21 years old guy.
And people have the audacity to say look for the bright side in life. Don't ignore the dark because it's spitting in someone's face.
Sometimes you have to know what you are looking for to see anything.
I agree that a Gofundme account should be set up for those interested in wanting to help or support this guy in his attempt to try to start a new life. Especially if he’s trying to attend school to educate himself. Just my opinion.
That's a flat out lie. He was not a spy
they just gave a couple AND their 2 y/o baby to life in a labor camp for having a Bible! How sick is that?? I 've read about people who were in those camps & their stories are horrific. Americans in our still free country do not realize how blessed we are, and how unappreciative we are. I believe the day is coming when that stark truth hits us in the face. As faulty as I am I am so grateful God loves us still & is there to walk with us if we ask. Praying protection & deliverance for ALL THE PRISONERS & PEOPLE OF NORTH KOREA also China & evil regimes.
Also, take his comments with a grain of salt, he wasn't directly there and is speaking from assumptions. For example, saying North Korea has advancements in bio-warfare that not even American toxicologists can detect the drug? I don't buy that.
But he was honest enough to admit that he ‘believed’ or ‘presumed’.
@@bojongkia123 Yeah, it's a nice way to avoid any responsibility in what he says if he ends everything with 'believed' or 'presumed'
He even said Otto confessed to being a spy during the trial which he never did because unlike him we actually got to watch the trial. Once he said that I immediately wrote off the entire interview he was clearly in the dark and only knows what he was told by NK.
Is this man still alive?
Thank you. Very interesting.
The culture shock was so great his body couldn't handle it.
Well said.
He took a picture off the wall
I respect you don’t monetize your videos. But as Asian Boss fan, I wish you can take more sustainable approach. Like, how about not just creating serious interview contents, but also lighter and shorter different type of contents and monetize this type of contents and get product placement/sponsors.
These torture tactics aren’t new. The world over has used variations for millennia
This story is incredibly sad and should have never happened. Such a young life gone unnecessarily by a crazed dictator.
Yall acted like he was innocent. He knew what could happen. He took his chances and paid the ultimate price.
@@mkvang0418 they will make up anything - basically lie and frame them to keep an American there to use for bargaining purposes.
It shouldn't have, but obviously this kid and his family weren't the brightest. Not only did he travel to North Korea but he decided to be an idiot whilst there. How dumb ya wanna be
@@mkvang0418 Best way not to get arrested and put in jail in NK, for being accused of being a spy, Don't Go To North Korea!
This dude is a legit spy you can see it in his eyebrows lvl 3 disguise
he is literally a formal elite north korean spy, that’s the title of the previous interview they had with him
Riveting stuff. Good interview
In my view, they used plastic bags over his head asphyxiating him in intervals over time to kill his brain cels.
You are totally right. The oxygen deprivation with plastic bags is a preferred torture in those jails. They also use electric shocks to the fingers.
*What kind of freaky thought process has to go on for someone to think "I know, I'll visit North Korea"?*
They made sure he would be essentially braindead so he couldn't recount his treatment while detained. "You want him? Ok. Give us a few days first."
I watched four interviews from past DPRK American releases (before the YT video culling) Stephen something and others..they all said they were treated very respectfully, and given little labour jobs to do, like dig holes for nothing-but the NK citisens were beat regularily. The overall setiment was that DPRK was scared AF to hurt American prisoners. I believe Otto really did get sick from Botulism or whatever DPRK says it was.
lie
reports suggest he was psychologically tortured instead
This guy seems to still admire the regime.
Then you shouldn't rely on your intuition......
North Korea thought the world, specially Americans a lesson and I see it’s been learned duly and diligently