This is one of the worst interviews in history, he kept talking over her and asked pointless questions. Still this is the first I've heard about this woman, she's captivating. Her story should be made into a movie or a full documentary.
@chillinebony I also noticed the numerous interruptions during the woman's interview. One of the important interruptions were when she was asked about "racism" in North Korea, and whether or not she experienced any, and she gave a very analytical comment which he obviously did not want to hear. She stated that there was some racism before she learned more about the culture and language, but afterwards she did not experience any more and was totally accepted, HOWEVER, unlike in the Western predominantly white societies where racism is practiced "INDEFINITELY" regardless of how well you adapt to the culture and languages. It was that part when I noticed him to talk over her before she completed the full sentence, and went quickly to another question as if it was an uncomfortable answer for him, and possibly for some of his viewers..
People might paint a negative image of North Korea, but it cannot be denied that what the president did for this wonderful woman was great, and quite monumental, because he could have sent her away and all alone..
This is journalistic voyeurism at its best, The interviewer lacks basic decency and seems to enjoy her heartbreaking personal tragic history. She handled his questions with elegance and humility. Lovely lady.
the interviewer is a white person and from the western side. they dont want her to humanize kim il sung. it's all propaganda reasons. they expect the woman to talk rude about kim il sung. it's typical western strategy. im not surprised
That's how they control the narrative, They want you to say only bad things to make the side they don't like look bad. I don't think racism would've even been part of the Questions .. Asians and Europeans are not Racists they're just surprised to see us. I went to Greece and had a wonderful time but everyone said they're racists I said you haven't even said a single word since we've been here 😂
Because as a colon and western p he represent he was expecting her to say I was mistreated by Kim But nooooo she said Kim treat her like a daughter. Like she was his own daughters. That loyalty western people's don't have only hatred
@@vervetech9395How does it go against the evil that is Kim Il sung. He is evil. He liked children as does his evil grandson Kim jong Un. They like praise especially from children. They like to be worshipped especially from children. Are you a narcissist too, that enjoys the praise of others and to be seen as a god, instead of acknowledging the one true God and his Son Jesus??? That you cannot understand the evil that goes on behind the mask of someone like Kim il sung, Kim sung II and Kim Jung Un??
@@oshunase3068 loyalty to a dictatorship that brutally oppresses it's own people... Or wait let me guess... U probably think that's Western propaganda don't u??
Oh. You're absolutely correct. He's a d.ck. He baits her, plays compassion, then condescends then starts the cycle over. Then the sob's editing crew reminds her of her father's misdeeds AND her adopted father's sc.mb.ggery. He's a real piece of work.
It is not the whole interview so coming to a conclusion is difficult, but from the snippets, the man was trying to get emotional responses from the woman, was obviously interested in negatively portraying the North Koreans and her decision to currently remain outside her homeland, if he was intelligent he would realise such an act is complicated for her,as her roots where torn and there could be other ramifications to her return, also she has personal reasons too.his making of that statement " but you are still here" is a stupid statement, he seeks to give the impression she is unwilling to return to her homeland. All in all from the snippets of this interview it is bs.
I feel like the interviewer had an agenda and was mad that she described Kim II sung as a good person and a caring father figure to her atleast. They painted him to be evil and heartless but as she said, he could have handed her over and she would have been dead. Her father was dead so she wasn't an asset for him. The fact that he made sure she went to boarding school and was actively staying in contact with her is very interesting.
@@ValyrianCode While starving and massacring their own people in the process. Just because they have some personal beef with the West does not excuse their own crimes against humanity.
The media made him look so evil, until today I thought he was an evil man,but no evil person will take care of someone's kids,from different country different race without expecting nothing in return
Why do I feel so disrespected on her behalf as to how the whole interview was handled? Or did they have to get so much stuffed within so little time? Still, she responded with so much grace and humility. I would have loved to know more. A true gem, she is.
North Korean discrimination was due to cultural and communicative limitations, however, once you learn their language and assimilate their culture and customs the barriers are dissolved, whereas Western discrimination is due to their superiority complex, which persists despite learning the language and assimilating their culture.
In North Korea you’re not allowed to leave the country, sentence to years of hard labor for minor offenses, starvation of millions of people and can be executed for your speech. I think you’re confusing superiority complex with what we call freedom.
If North Korean culture is anything like the rest of East Asian culture, this isn't true. In the West you always have a chance to integrate given you speak the language and adhere to the culture. In East Asian cultures, you can never be fully assimilated since there's no multicultural element to speak of.
yes his retort "and yet you're still here" reveal some hidden annoyance that Africans should be in Africa ...as if to say your father told you to return to Africa so "why are you here?" this is not your country and you don't belong here but here you are nonetheless.... and the audacity to ask her about racism in the west while he himself is fully on display showing racism...it was a bit much for me
This is quite obviously a sensitive and simultaneously remarkable story. The interviewer was very inconsiderate and actually came across quite dismissive of her. My heart goes out to Monica and her bravery for talking and writing her experiences for us all to read.
I thought so too, he was not patient with her even when she was tearing up, no offer of tissues, no empathy . all he wants is the interview. poor interviewer....
yeah, yeah, yeah... We're not here to talk about colonialism and western "evils", let's get back dictator bad. Tell me more about Bush/Obama/Blair killing 1million Iraqis... I mean the evil dictator that was dictating and murdering...
The interviewer is awful and sadistic. I don't know him, but he seems to revel in the gutter. I wish this woman healing, blessings, restoration, and recovery.
She has one of the most unique life stories and this guy is just interrupting her like he's met a million daughters of African dictators raised by Kim Il-Sung
The interviewer is terrible. He talks all over her and cuts in all the time. And he seems quite heartless and almost as he resents her for her fathers crimes. It was weird to watch. She kept her composure and expressed herself well. Seems like a nice lady.
Interesting how she explained that the moment she adopted the culture in North Korea racism disappeared and that, in the west, racism is still evident even if you live in the same culture.
@@tobiisiba1641 "The media"? Is that you're way of trying to wash yourself from racist and discriminatory actions that you know your country has been committing throughout history. Fret not we will always be there to remind you how racist your system is!
@@myamwezmyamwez8669 system?? He's right. There's no knew to continually remind her she is a victim...no western professor or media to tell her how oppressed they are or some UA-cam trolls like you telling her such nonsense
Interviewer comes across as having very little empathy or ability to anticipate her likely reactions, regardless of his feelings about communism or other political systems. A brutal interview. Credit to the lady for her grace and patience in tolerating this added torture in her life.
@YellowMeadow Spirituelle Why are you still here you orphan whose father wanted you to go back to your birth country when the country you were from was taken over by his political opponents with said opponents still in power. Did you face racism? yeah I wanted to ask that (as a follow-up). Dude - this guy was a horrible interviewer. She kept it going, but wow. No one as an interviewer across from her would have been better than him.
@@ABC-dw7pe He talked over his interviewee, multiple times (without rewatching, when she was sharing her childhood, her reasons, that there's a difference between racism in each market)... so if you consider his job "asking questions for them to answer" and nothing else... he's failing at even that...
Her father was very calculating. The man was aware of the enemies around him, as each day passed the surroundings were becoming increasingly unsafe & that's when he decided to take his daughter to Kim II-sung. It's clear that both presidents had deeper ties, so her life was safe. She should forgive mom, the move had been done to protect her life not to abandon her deliberately. The interviewer kept pushing the thorn in her flesh & that wasn't cool at all.
But it shouldn't be a thorn. Hopefully she will get there but the amount of strength it takes as a parent to give your child to someone else because you know they would perish otherwise. That's strength I don't have.
I don't care what she believes in or what her ideologies are, I still find her an absolute unique person with an unique story that should be turned into a book or movie. Never heard of her before, this was amazing. Even if that guy was rude and the video edition made the interview rushed and all out of place.
She was on korean radio and tv shows a couple of times. She sais she eventually met with Obiang and he begged for forgiveness. She forgave her cousin(she keeps saying it's her uncle due to the age gap but Obiang is the nephew of her father F. Macias making him her cousin. Both her and her siblings speak perfect korean. In anintervoew released some years ago, she put on the phone her brother who worked as a gouvernment official for construction some years ago. Nice to hear again from her.
She must have one of the most fascinating biographies I’ve ever heard of and yet I’ve never heard of her before, no movies are made of her, and this interview is really, disappointingly, brief!! What a life! So tragic and yet she persisted. Bravo!
The interview is brief because what she was saying would not interest the interviewer. To get interested of you have to portray the NK in the worst image possible, nothing good comes of NK.
@@FN-hg2el thank you for highlighting that, I didn't quite pick it up at first, but once I went back to watch the interview again, it was clear this bloke was looking for more than what he got
The Interviewer seems to relish her pain…he keeps pushing and insisting “did you hate your Mum?” “Your father was executed…by firing squad”.. terrible 🤢
I thought his questions were reasonable and he acknowledged her pain and helped her to talk about her experiences. For him to ask did you hate your mum and to say you cried a lot is very likely the case and it is sometimes welcoming to have someone speak your pain, let you know they can put themselves in your shoes, acknowledge and accept you. I thought he was kind. This intelligent woman is wise enough to know her parents acted only as they knew how and in their daughter and son`s best interest. The woman was expressing how it felt at the time as a child. We all wish her well.
Very wicked journalist not even a tissue paper or handkerchief to wipe her tears what's the difference from the north Korea regime, insensitivity in the highest order
The interview has that subtle British racism and superiority anyone whose country was colonised by them recently( in the 20th century )knows it. Its very subtle and they sometimes disguise it as humor or call it being straightforward but we all know what it is. Utterly cruel.
Koreans are noble people , its quite interesting how the president KIM IL SUNG took the care of daughter of a fallen president without expecting anything in return other than being good on his word. i really have respect for Koreans
This story is similar to the story of many Namibian children who were born in refugee camps in Angola and Zamibia and were sent to Cuba, East Germany, Czech, and others just to mention a few when the country was fighting for its independence from the Apartheid South Africa regime. The children were well taken care of and when Namibia got independence the children were repatriated to Namibia and these countries continued to support them giving them a chance through education, etc. Korea and Soviets/Russia also supported Namibia through the struggle times and we are forever grateful 🙏
you said children where taking care of on east Germany, if the are taking care of why are they there in the first place there is no care beautiful than they one in ur home place,
Sad that an innocent little girl was abandoned by her mother. Mum probably had no choice. Glad that she now has such a positive outlook for the future.
She leads a very humble life now, but possesses a remarkable story that no one has ever heard of. I hope a publisher or film studio reaches out to her so she can tell her story to the world. But because she has made a lot of effort to voice her support of Kim il sung and her dictator father, I suspect people might still be wary of her.
Hi,definitely the world doesn't need to know more about this lady ,at least in the world I live and I will explain why: I was born in equatorial guine,her country. My family and l sufferd from the evil of her father,l have families murdered under her father's regime and up till the day of today we are still suffering from the evil of her uncle,whom has been rulling the country for 45 years and counting. Reading that she got a book published it's like a blow straight to all the guineans people face. Some will stand for her and say it was her father who did it,good for them. As for me and most people seeing her trying to act normal is really painful !!! Shame on her!!!
@@well_i_liked_it, when you have suffered that level of oppression and evil it's hard to get over it. Till this day I can't visit my country neither go bury some of my beloved ones cause we are blacklisted by her uncles oppression. You are entitled to your opinion and so I am with my pain, therefore I don't think what she says in her book will bring some light or whatever she pretends,l am not interested. Greetings from Spain.
It's like someone can't have a complex life. You can be a dictator but a good father. You can be a priest but a pedophile. You can be humble but a murderer. Humans don't have only one side to them. Just because Kim was infamous in one way, doesn't mean other people never saw another side of him. Darkness and Light must exist together.
A sad, but inspiring story told by a very elegant and eloquent person. To be left in a foreign country without explanation and cruelly separated from hers mother, must have been a very traumatic experience for her. I wonder how she was able to leave the hermit kingdom that is the DPRK. I would have loved to have heard more of her story. A full-length documentary and even a film about her story would be absolutely fascinating.
😂the plain and simple fact that she’s here telling her story tells me is not what the media says about NK as usual we are fed whatever they want not the truth.
@@ameg2707 no defiantly not them sparing one dictators daughter from death does not exsucse the living conditions the people of North Korea live in. Basic food an transportation is a luxury
My heart aches for the pain she endured from childhood trauma. She has a an extraordinary unique life story and is a beautiful, intelligent woman. Best regards to her moving forward.
Yes. And the questions about emotions that the interviewer asked were very invasive. How did you feel, did you cry, did you hate your mother for leaving you, etc. What a bizarre position to put an interviewee into. JFC. Whoever wrote the interview script should lose their job
@@dntskdnttll I was thinking the same thing.. I did start to think it’s his job to ask sometimes very personal questions, but when she showed her emotions it was even more obvious how genuine she is
They are from a place where people will kill your entire family for fear of heirs. As hard as it must’ve been for them, sending their daughter away ensured that she stayed alive. I’m not saying I’m a fan of her father, but he made the wisest move as a parent.
Nah. If he had her safety in mind, he would be worrying about himself killing her in one of his increasingly frequent bouts of madness. Nobody alive is a fan of her dad - those who were were all killed by him.
Calls her father a "dictator" to her face, absence of individual respect, and then says "must be traumatizing" soon after like he even cares in the first place. What a broken personality and malicious creep?
Because he’s addressing someone’s FATHER. To her, his most important title is not dictator, but Monica’s father. That’s who he’ll always be for the rest of her life.
she said her father told her to study and to study for africa and come back to africa. that means alot. it means her father seriously cared for africa.
He's absolutely awful and needs to go back to journalism 101. This woman has a fascinating story to tell and he's not letting her tell it, interrupting and interjecting stupid opinions no one wants to hear.
It is extraordinary, she actually feels Korean. It was an amazing life, living in North Korea, protected and being looked after by the president, and finally leaving and seeing "world". May her heart finds peace and may she find a way to enrich the world with the lessons she learnt by living in the two worlds.
Why is that 'extraordinary'? Children are famous for their adaptability, are they not? It's a biological mechanism to ensure a child is still able to bond with their caretaker should they lose their parents/family/birth country.
@@liladance3506 When was the last time you heard of someone visiting North Korea, let alone growing up there? Even if you heard of one, when was the last time you heard of one who grew up being protected by the president? North Korea is not like Sweden, USA, Denmark etc... where people come and go, and adopting is a normal thing. Monique's life is extraordinary ! Very few people living in USA, U.K have seen what she has seen. I could have agreed with you if you had said, every life is extraordinary. But I can't agree with you saying there is nothing extraordinary about her life. But that's okay, we all have a right to see things the way we want to see them.
The interviewer is angry because she didn’t say negative things about North Koreans 🤣🤣. He would have given her much time if she said negative stuff about North Korea.
Ah, this lady ! Elegant and Eloquent and so humble. Her life experience is so traumatic and yet , she rises above and still she chooses to be her very best. May God Bless her. Thank you!
I find it fascinating how racism has been blocked out of North Korea because their people have been secluded from Western morals, it is absolutely fascinating how she explained she didn't sense racism after adopting into the North Korean culture. It is also fascinating how she noticed that racism is very much present in the west even if people share the same cultural values. I am kinda seeing that the cost behind maintaining western "freedoms" is without a shred of doubt racism and discrimination, it has been happening for centuries to point that we accept it as NORMAL. This woman is key to unlocking a glimpse of a parallel universe of how Earth could have been had western nations not had the opportunity to enforce racism and discrimination as payment for "freedom".
Not everyone in the west is racist and if the leader of a brutal dictatorship said she’s to be looked after nobody’s going to say shite and most North Koreans are too poor to care they have bigger problems and not everyone is racist theirs only a select few who are actually racist what you’re saying about the west is just bashing them for no reason at all
@@annea5781 True. The mom probably knew but couldn’t bring herself to utter the words that she wasn’t coming back. Although this did more harm than good. On the flip side maybe she tried to come back but died or was killed. Does anyone know what happened to the mother?
Childhood Trauma and Pain never heals and this manifested as she cried about her mother. She is a beautiful and eloquent woman and hope she one day returns to Africa to fulfill her fathers instructions to her.
Her story is amazing, and she answers with such calmness and poise. I wish they used another interviewer because this guy just kept cutting in without letting her finish.
This is an incredible story. My opinion is that some of the people we perceive as all "bad and evil" do have a bit of good in them. President Kim took care of her, and that's commendable.
Hers is an odd story, but even with most of us - we rarely know when the last time we will see someone. Both my parents are dead and the last time I saw each of them was as normal as any time I saw them.
I have nothing but admiration, for the North Koreans and for this lady. Apparently North Koreans would never desert a friend at the hour of need; very different from what we are told by the main stream media
It's obvious her parents felt that they would get executed and that their daughter would be safe in North Korea, away from any revenge missions by new regimes. Her mother must have been equally devastated.
The interviewer was inappropriate for this case I am glad others felt the same way. I felt he was insensitive and lacked empathy, almost like he wanted to get some "traumatic response " out of her. Theres a better way to ask questions and get the story told without doing that.
Well, at least he didn’t violate her, and it seems that he didn’t allow anyone else to violate her either. So, he has my respect for keeping his promise.
Very rare show of Universal Loving Kindness & Compassion shown to this daughter of late President Equatorial Guinea by the late North Korea President Kim Il~Sung ... 🙏 We Thank You So Much late President Kim Il~Sung for taking good care of monica Macias when she needed the help the most when growing up! 🕯🌷🌿🌏💜🕊
And forgot her mother tongue Spanish, me:👀Spanish I thought she's from Africa? Quick Google search oh yes another European colony, a Spanish one at that.
When I was in trade school about 20 years ago, my best friend was the son of EG's U.S. ambassador. Apparently, he had been sent to school as a punishment as he kept getting in trouble in the U.S. but he did mention this story to me when we were discussing North Korea once. I had completely forgotten that conversation until I saw this video just now.
The interviewer did his best to confirm his stereotype, but all I understood from her words was that the Korean leader was a man of his words, not expecting any return from her
But she can't really go back to her home. The current dictator president is her cousin and part of the group that killed her father. If she steps a bit into Equi-Guinea, she would be killed by him
I find this bitterly ironic. Her father was staunchly anti-intellectual, believing that it was a by product of western imperialism. He banned the wearing of glasses and education on pain of death. He even tried to stop his own people from leaving the country, but it was ok for his daughter to study abroad. Like so many despots, I guess the same rules didn't apply.
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This is one of the worst interviews in history, he kept talking over her and asked pointless questions. Still this is the first I've heard about this woman, she's captivating. Her story should be made into a movie or a full documentary.
@chillinebony I also noticed the numerous interruptions during the woman's interview. One of the important interruptions were when she was asked about "racism" in North Korea, and whether or not she experienced any, and she gave a very analytical comment which he obviously did not want to hear. She stated that there was some racism before she learned more about the culture and language, but afterwards she did not experience any more and was totally accepted, HOWEVER, unlike in the Western predominantly white societies where racism is practiced "INDEFINITELY" regardless of how well you adapt to the culture and languages. It was that part when I noticed him to talk over her before she completed the full sentence, and went quickly to another question as if it was an uncomfortable answer for him, and possibly for some of his viewers..
People might paint a negative image of North Korea, but it cannot be denied that what the president did for this wonderful woman was great, and quite monumental, because he could have sent her away and all alone..
@@etruscancivilization I completely agree, well said 💯
i agree he is being an idiot
@@chillinebony 👍🩴✅
This is journalistic voyeurism at its best, The interviewer lacks basic decency and seems to enjoy her heartbreaking personal tragic history. She handled his questions with elegance and humility. Lovely lady.
You have articulated my thoughts so much better than my emotions would allow me.
He also tries to belittle her, abuse her father, then ask her why she has not gone back to her country, and calls her a shop clerk. My!
Tell me about it. Classic case of enjoying black misery.
Europeans has this strange attitude
Yes interview wasn't done right
Greatest irony of all: Kim Il-sung apparently offered her more compassion and humanity - than this Channel 4 interviewer. Imagine that.
Exactly
Absolutely.
and DPRK despite their own version of ethnic supremacy still shows less racism towards her than where she is now based on her experience.
Humanity is so complicated
Right? He doesn’t even let speak her sentences to completion before he jumps in. So annoying
Why does the interviewer keeps on interrupting the interview before she can finish a sentence? How rude.
It talks too much
You know !!!
the interviewer is a white person and from the western side. they dont want her to humanize kim il sung. it's all propaganda reasons. they expect the woman to talk rude about kim il sung. it's typical western strategy. im not surprised
That's how they control the narrative, They want you to say only bad things to make the side they don't like look bad. I don't think racism would've even been part of the Questions .. Asians and Europeans are not Racists they're just surprised to see us. I went to Greece and had a wonderful time but everyone said they're racists I said you haven't even said a single word since we've been here 😂
He reminds me of a donkey’s tail area
The lady spoke very well and made clear that Kim Il-sung treated her like a daughter, which the interviewer could understand only with difficulty!
Because as a colon and western p he represent he was expecting her to say I was mistreated by Kim But nooooo she said Kim treat her like a daughter. Like she was his own daughters. That loyalty western people's don't have only hatred
He was so disappointed that what she said about how she was treated in North Korea goes against their agenda
@@vervetech9395How does it go against the evil that is Kim Il sung. He is evil. He liked children as does his evil grandson Kim jong Un. They like praise especially from children. They like to be worshipped especially from children. Are you a narcissist too, that enjoys the praise of others and to be seen as a god, instead of acknowledging the one true God and his Son Jesus??? That you cannot understand the evil that goes on behind the mask of someone like Kim il sung, Kim sung II and Kim Jung Un??
@@oshunase3068 loyalty to a dictatorship that brutally oppresses it's own people... Or wait let me guess... U probably think that's Western propaganda don't u??
This guy just purposely bombarded her with traumatic questions without even giving her time to regain her composure.
that made me mad...
Without even giving her tissues for her tears. That was embarrassing
That guy looks more like an interrogator than a professional journalist. Disgusting.
Oh. You're absolutely correct. He's a d.ck.
He baits her, plays compassion, then condescends then starts the cycle over.
Then the sob's editing crew reminds her of her father's misdeeds AND her adopted father's sc.mb.ggery.
He's a real piece of work.
It is not the whole interview so coming to a conclusion is difficult, but from the snippets, the man was trying to get emotional responses from the woman, was obviously interested in negatively portraying the North Koreans and her decision to currently remain outside her homeland, if he was intelligent he would realise such an act is complicated for her,as her roots where torn and there could be other ramifications to her return, also she has personal reasons too.his making of that statement " but you are still here" is a stupid statement, he seeks to give the impression she is unwilling to return to her homeland. All in all from the snippets of this interview it is bs.
I feel like the interviewer had an agenda and was mad that she described Kim II sung as a good person and a caring father figure to her atleast. They painted him to be evil and heartless but as she said, he could have handed her over and she would have been dead. Her father was dead so she wasn't an asset for him. The fact that he made sure she went to boarding school and was actively staying in contact with her is very interesting.
They always have a label for anyone that stands up against the west.
Yeah, he did. It's called the Western Agenda.
@@ValyrianCode
While starving and massacring their own people in the process. Just because they have some personal beef with the West does not excuse their own crimes against humanity.
They always have an agenda.
The media made him look so evil, until today I thought he was an evil man,but no evil person will take care of someone's kids,from different country different race without expecting nothing in return
Why do I feel so disrespected on her behalf as to how the whole interview was handled? Or did they have to get so much stuffed within so little time? Still, she responded with so much grace and humility. I would have loved to know more. A true gem, she is.
Nope, you had it right the first time. Scroll through the comments I only saw one person defending the interviewer.
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He's not a very good interviewer. Speaking over her, making assumptions, driving a motive instead of letting her speak for herself
I think he did a fine job.
To say he's not a very good interviewer is a huge understatement. I found him unfeeling, almost like he was a prosecutor trying to catch her in a lie.
North Korean discrimination was due to cultural and communicative limitations, however, once you learn their language and assimilate their culture and customs the barriers are dissolved, whereas Western discrimination is due to their superiority complex, which persists despite learning the language and assimilating their culture.
Exactly!
Right and this western “superiority complex” is another way to phrase pure racism. Yes an ugly word but let’s call a thing what it is
DESPITE knowing they are NOT superior! lol
In North Korea you’re not allowed to leave the country, sentence to years of hard labor for minor offenses, starvation of millions of people and can be executed for your speech. I think you’re confusing superiority complex with what we call freedom.
If North Korean culture is anything like the rest of East Asian culture, this isn't true. In the West you always have a chance to integrate given you speak the language and adhere to the culture. In East Asian cultures, you can never be fully assimilated since there's no multicultural element to speak of.
This interviewer is cold 🥶!!! Brrrrr, can’t even offer the lady a tissue! She is a wonderful lady and thank you 🙏🏼 for telling your story!
"maybe I'm still learning" I love how she responded to him almost shaming her for being in London.
I don’t know which interview you listened to. I hear no issues with how the interview was done.
@@nk-gp1mlyeah cause u lack manners.
I sensed a bit dishonesty in her words. Could have just said: That was my father's dream, not mine.
I pray she stays in London. Her father's chief master mind executor is still alive and ruling.
yes his retort "and yet you're still here" reveal some hidden annoyance that Africans should be in Africa ...as if to say your father told you to return to Africa so "why are you here?" this is not your country and you don't belong here but here you are nonetheless.... and the audacity to ask her about racism in the west while he himself is fully on display showing racism...it was a bit much for me
This is quite obviously a sensitive and simultaneously remarkable story. The interviewer was very inconsiderate and actually came across quite dismissive of her. My heart goes out to Monica and her bravery for talking and writing her experiences for us all to read.
I thought so too, he was not patient with her even when she was tearing up, no offer of tissues, no empathy . all he wants is the interview. poor interviewer....
Yes he was awful. And he continually talked over her - she didn't need his help to express herself.
Who’s surprised?
Typical British... the rest of the world as just exhibitions to them, not humans.
yeah, yeah, yeah... We're not here to talk about colonialism and western "evils", let's get back dictator bad. Tell me more about Bush/Obama/Blair killing 1million Iraqis... I mean the evil dictator that was dictating and murdering...
She deserves to be interviewed by a real interviewer.
Cristian Amnapour
The interviewer is awful and sadistic. I don't know him, but he seems to revel in the gutter.
I wish this woman healing, blessings, restoration, and recovery.
She has one of the most unique life stories and this guy is just interrupting her like he's met a million daughters of African dictators raised by Kim Il-Sung
He was disrespectful on purpose.
The interviewer is terrible. He talks all over her and cuts in all the time. And he seems quite heartless and almost as he resents her for her fathers crimes. It was weird to watch. She kept her composure and expressed herself well. Seems like a nice lady.
He should resent her father's crimes, her father (and indeed her subsequent protector) were *mass* murderers.
Her father was a monster, what do you want him to do?
@S A we expected to hear her speak since she is being interviewed. If he wanted to hear himself speak he could have done a monologue.
@@SA-ff9uc the father isn't the one being interviewed, though so...
Shocking 🤦🏿♂️
He really wanted her to cry so much talking over her ''you cried alot'', ''then your father was executed by a firing squad '' smh
Lack of sensitivity. Western news reporters are my most hated kind of foreigner live in my country for good reason. They have no morals
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What happened to her mother?
Sounds like Kim-Il-Song showed more humanity than this unlikable and rude interviewer.
Can you give her a minute to collect herself before bombarding her with more questions. Yikes.
It’s called editing- what’s wrong with people on here?
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@@biscuit4259 it's not just editing. You can see she's crying and trying to complete a thought while he's talking over her
Exactly
@@biscuit4259 Whats wrong is we see British men have lack compassion.
What an extraordinary, graceful, humble, beautiful woman. The world is a better place with her in it.
They shut it down really fast when she talked about less racism there than the West
No they didn’t you clown. He literally says “I was gonna ask you about that”. When talking about racism in NK
Interesting how she explained that the moment she adopted the culture in North Korea racism disappeared and that, in the west, racism is still evident even if you live in the same culture.
Lol she maybe it disappeared because she didn't have the media telling her she was a victim 24/7
@@tobiisiba1641 "The media"? Is that you're way of trying to wash yourself from racist and discriminatory actions that you know your country has been committing throughout history.
Fret not we will always be there to remind you how racist your system is!
@@tobiisiba1641 people don't need the media to tell them what they experienced in real life.
Because the colonisation is embedded. Korea have not colonised the west.
@@myamwezmyamwez8669 system??
He's right.
There's no knew to continually remind her she is a victim...no western professor or media to tell her how oppressed they are or some UA-cam trolls like you telling her such nonsense
Interviewer comes across as having very little empathy or ability to anticipate her likely reactions, regardless of his feelings about communism or other political systems. A brutal interview. Credit to the lady for her grace and patience in tolerating this added torture in her life.
@YellowMeadow Spirituelle Why are you still here you orphan whose father wanted you to go back to your birth country when the country you were from was taken over by his political opponents with said opponents still in power.
Did you face racism? yeah I wanted to ask that (as a follow-up).
Dude - this guy was a horrible interviewer. She kept it going, but wow. No one as an interviewer across from her would have been better than him.
nobody cares 😂. Cope
Agreed, he needs training.
He’s an interviewer Ffs he is there to quite coldly ask the questions and not offer therapy
@@ABC-dw7pe He talked over his interviewee, multiple times (without rewatching, when she was sharing her childhood, her reasons, that there's a difference between racism in each market)...
so if you consider his job "asking questions for them to answer" and nothing else... he's failing at even that...
Her father was very calculating. The man was aware of the enemies around him, as each day passed the surroundings were becoming increasingly unsafe & that's when he decided to take his daughter to Kim II-sung. It's clear that both presidents had deeper ties, so her life was safe. She should forgive mom, the move had been done to protect her life not to abandon her deliberately. The interviewer kept pushing the thorn in her flesh & that wasn't cool at all.
But it shouldn't be a thorn. Hopefully she will get there but the amount of strength it takes as a parent to give your child to someone else because you know they would perish otherwise. That's strength I don't have.
Putting her on exile overseas, his father could kill his people more indiscriminately without the worries of revenge on his children.
Everyone's talking about the kid. No one's talking why her parents had enemies who wanted to kill them.
I completely agree with you. He seemed insensitive
Exactly. His focus was not her pains but a delibrate efforts to make her say North Korea us bad.
I don't care what she believes in or what her ideologies are, I still find her an absolute unique person with an unique story that should be turned into a book or movie. Never heard of her before, this was amazing. Even if that guy was rude and the video edition made the interview rushed and all out of place.
That would be a great movie 🍿. I don't think Hollywood would do it yet
She was on korean radio and tv shows a couple of times. She sais she eventually met with Obiang and he begged for forgiveness. She forgave her cousin(she keeps saying it's her uncle due to the age gap but Obiang is the nephew of her father F. Macias making him her cousin. Both her and her siblings speak perfect korean. In anintervoew released some years ago, she put on the phone her brother who worked as a gouvernment official for construction some years ago. Nice to hear again from her.
Thanks for sharing. This is an interesting life indeed.
She must have one of the most fascinating biographies I’ve ever heard of and yet I’ve never heard of her before, no movies are made of her, and this interview is really, disappointingly, brief!! What a life! So tragic and yet she persisted. Bravo!
The interview is brief because what she was saying would not interest the interviewer. To get interested of you have to portray the NK in the worst image possible, nothing good comes of NK.
Apparently she wrote a book. Read that for more info. Def fascinating
@@FN-hg2el exactly, when she started saying good things about her experience there he immediately cut her off!
They should make a movie of all the people who have suffered and died as a result of her evil family instead.
@@FN-hg2el thank you for highlighting that, I didn't quite pick it up at first, but once I went back to watch the interview again, it was clear this bloke was looking for more than what he got
When your agenda is tarnishing someone's image then end up tarnishing your own. The racism question backfired
I guess that's why he ended the interview so quickly after getting disappointed.
The Interviewer seems to relish her pain…he keeps pushing and insisting “did you hate your Mum?” “Your father was executed…by firing squad”.. terrible 🤢
I thought his questions were reasonable and he acknowledged her pain and helped her to talk about her experiences. For him to ask did you hate your mum and to say you cried a lot is very likely the case and it is sometimes welcoming to have someone speak your pain, let you know they can put themselves in your shoes, acknowledge and accept you. I thought he was kind. This intelligent woman is wise enough to know her parents acted only as they knew how and in their daughter and son`s best interest. The woman was expressing how it felt at the time as a child. We all wish her well.
The media at its finest
Quite insensitive of him. Soo sad
British journalists have no manners.
Very wicked journalist not even a tissue paper or handkerchief to wipe her tears what's the difference from the north Korea regime, insensitivity in the highest order
What an incredible life story (so far!). A real shame Monica's interview felt rushed, pressured and insensitive. Sending my best to Monica.
My god, the way the interviewer was trying to trap her with "I got you" questions was outright ridiculous. I'm glad she did not fall for it.
Seems like her book Black girl from Pyongyang needs to be a movie already.
Also, the interviewers vibe was off!
The interview has that subtle British racism and superiority anyone whose country was colonised by them recently( in the 20th century )knows it. Its very subtle and they sometimes disguise it as humor or call it being straightforward but we all know what it is. Utterly cruel.
Very!🤢
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💯% Truth. In certain areas of the US, this kind of passive aggressive behavior is called "Nice & Nasty".
@@Azulakayes Guinea-Bissau was not colonized by the British, but by the Spain. What explain his mother be a white Spanish woman.
''Guinea-Bissau lol'' @@Sokol10
Koreans are noble people , its quite interesting how the president KIM IL SUNG took the care of daughter of a fallen president without expecting anything in return other than being good on his word. i really have respect for Koreans
It would have been even better if Kim had taken good care of the families of the comrades he eliminated on his way to the top.
Me too
Me too. Such noble people
It's what any decent human would do. Was he a decent human?
One act of kindness by a single individual does not represent the rest country, remember Kim killed his own uncle
This story is similar to the story of many Namibian children who were born in refugee camps in Angola and Zamibia and were sent to Cuba, East Germany, Czech, and others just to mention a few when the country was fighting for its independence from the Apartheid South Africa regime. The children were well taken care of and when Namibia got independence the children were repatriated to Namibia and these countries continued to support them giving them a chance through education, etc. Korea and Soviets/Russia also supported Namibia through the struggle times and we are forever grateful 🙏
That's true🌍🙌🌍 And this history nowhere you can hear it in media😩😭😩
you said children where taking care of on east Germany, if the are taking care of why are they there in the first place there is no care beautiful than they one in ur home place,
@@francisnwadike9505 there was a war in Namibia, so the children's parents left.
That's true. I have a sister from Namibia who came as a refugee
North Korea Eq Guinea relations is not a marxist relationship.
Sad that an innocent little girl was abandoned by her mother. Mum probably had no choice. Glad that she now has such a positive outlook for the future.
This story needs to be made into a movie! I’m immensely curious about the decades she spent in North Korea
Hollywood is not ready to make a movie 🍿 like that. But ya it would be good to watch.
It would go against western narrative about North Korea so it won't happen
This interviewer is so unprofessional watching the lady shed tears and continuing to ask her questions without any consideration.
She leads a very humble life now, but possesses a remarkable story that no one has ever heard of. I hope a publisher or film studio reaches out to her so she can tell her story to the world. But because she has made a lot of effort to voice her support of Kim il sung and her dictator father, I suspect people might still be wary of her.
Black Girl from Pyongyang: In Search of My Identity by Monica Macias
@@well_i_liked_it thanks for sharing. I'm surprised the interview made no mention that she had a book!
Hi,definitely the world doesn't need to know more about this lady ,at least in the world I live and I will explain why:
I was born in equatorial guine,her country. My family and l sufferd from the evil of her father,l have families murdered under her father's regime and up till the day of today we are still suffering from the evil of her uncle,whom has been rulling the country for 45 years and counting.
Reading that she got a book published it's like a blow straight to all the guineans people face.
Some will stand for her and say it was her father who did it,good for them. As for me and most people seeing her trying to act normal is really painful !!!
Shame on her!!!
@@well_i_liked_it, when you have suffered that level of oppression and evil it's hard to get over it. Till this day I can't visit my country neither go bury some of my beloved ones cause we are blacklisted by her uncles oppression.
You are entitled to your opinion and so I am with my pain, therefore I don't think what she says in her book will bring some light or whatever she pretends,l am not interested.
Greetings from Spain.
You cannot bite the hand that fed you
The interviewer is putting words in her mouth..
Not letting her tell her story.
Basically Kim saved her life
It's like someone can't have a complex life. You can be a dictator but a good father. You can be a priest but a pedophile. You can be humble but a murderer. Humans don't have only one side to them. Just because Kim was infamous in one way, doesn't mean other people never saw another side of him. Darkness and Light must exist together.
She deserves a real interview and a tissue. The interviewer was weird
that last question seems like a personal attack..
A sad, but inspiring story told by a very elegant and eloquent person. To be left in a foreign country without explanation and cruelly separated from hers mother, must have been a very traumatic experience for her. I wonder how she was able to leave the hermit kingdom that is the DPRK. I would have loved to have heard more of her story. A full-length documentary and even a film about her story would be absolutely fascinating.
😂the plain and simple fact that she’s here telling her story tells me is not what the media says about NK as usual we are fed whatever they want not the truth.
@@ameg2707 Thanks
@@ameg2707 no defiantly not them sparing one dictators daughter from death does not exsucse the living conditions the people of North Korea live in. Basic food an transportation is a luxury
I think so
@@ameg2707 exactly
My heart aches for the pain she endured from childhood trauma. She has a an extraordinary unique life story and is a beautiful, intelligent woman. Best regards to her moving forward.
I agree. And prayers for her soul - that she might find Jesus, the Love of God.
@Donnell Okafor What you think can't erase facts. Her story isn't up for debate, it's been documented and has more than enough evidence to back it up.
Yes. And the questions about emotions that the interviewer asked were very invasive. How did you feel, did you cry, did you hate your mother for leaving you, etc. What a bizarre position to put an interviewee into. JFC. Whoever wrote the interview script should lose their job
@@dntskdnttll I was thinking the same thing.. I did start to think it’s his job to ask sometimes very personal questions, but when she showed her emotions it was even more obvious how genuine she is
They are from a place where people will kill your entire family for fear of heirs. As hard as it must’ve been for them, sending their daughter away ensured that she stayed alive. I’m not saying I’m a fan of her father, but he made the wisest move as a parent.
Nah. If he had her safety in mind, he would be worrying about himself killing her in one of his increasingly frequent bouts of madness. Nobody alive is a fan of her dad - those who were were all killed by him.
Best response ever
He keeps bombarding her with question after question .Very inhumane and disgusting. No decorum at all! Let her reflect before she continues ..sheesh.
Kim sung can’t be all bad for actually stepping forth and raising her she wasn’t allowed to expound on her upbringing in Korea (wonder why?)
Someone needs to make a movie or documentary on her life -- absolutely fascinating.
It is
Calls her father a "dictator" to her face, absence of individual respect, and then says "must be traumatizing" soon after like he even cares in the first place. What a broken personality and malicious creep?
Why sugarcoat the truth?
Because he’s addressing someone’s FATHER. To her, his most important title is not dictator, but Monica’s father. That’s who he’ll always be for the rest of her life.
💯 Thank you!
I guess when your not a victim of that dictator u wouldnt care 🤦♂️
she said her father told her to study and to study for africa and come back to africa. that means alot. it means her father seriously cared for africa.
A strange and sad tale. What a lovely sweet lady.
Damn stop cutting her off he’s literally the worst interviewer I have ever seen in my life
He's absolutely awful and needs to go back to journalism 101. This woman has a fascinating story to tell and he's not letting her tell it, interrupting and interjecting stupid opinions no one wants to hear.
monica has a gentle manner. sad to be left. will look into her book. thank-you
This interview should have been MUCH longer
But she wrote a book about her story so maybe we can look for it and finish the story.
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No, the interviewer is a crazy man
Longer interview. But different interviewer!!
There's another interview with this woman in an South Korea YT channel.
It is extraordinary, she actually feels Korean.
It was an amazing life, living in North Korea, protected and being looked after by the president,
and finally leaving and seeing "world".
May her heart finds peace and may she find a way to enrich the world with the lessons she learnt by living in the two worlds.
Why is that 'extraordinary'? Children are famous for their adaptability, are they not? It's a biological mechanism to ensure a child is still able to bond with their caretaker should they lose their parents/family/birth country.
@@liladance3506 When was the last time you heard of someone visiting North Korea, let alone growing up there?
Even if you heard of one, when was the last time you heard of one who grew up being protected by the president?
North Korea is not like Sweden, USA, Denmark etc... where people come and go, and adopting is a normal thing.
Monique's life is extraordinary !
Very few people living in USA, U.K have seen what she has seen.
I could have agreed with you if you had said, every life is extraordinary.
But I can't agree with you saying there is nothing extraordinary about her life.
But that's okay, we all have a right to see things the way we want to see them.
it's not extraordinary, it's immigrant kids anywhere who move to a new country super young
The interviewer is angry because she didn’t say negative things about North Koreans 🤣🤣. He would have given her much time if she said negative stuff about North Korea.
I wish the interviewer would let her tells her story!
Kim Jong-Il sounds more compassionate than this interviewer who should be fired.
Ah, this lady ! Elegant and Eloquent and so humble.
Her life experience is so traumatic and yet , she rises above
and still she chooses to be her very best.
May God Bless her.
Thank you!
It's a luck woman. If are in Guine at time of his father downfall could end in throubles.
I find it fascinating how racism has been blocked out of North Korea because their people have been secluded from Western morals, it is absolutely fascinating how she explained she didn't sense racism after adopting into the North Korean culture. It is also fascinating how she noticed that racism is very much present in the west even if people share the same cultural values. I am kinda seeing that the cost behind maintaining western "freedoms" is without a shred of doubt racism and discrimination, it has been happening for centuries to point that we accept it as NORMAL.
This woman is key to unlocking a glimpse of a parallel universe of how Earth could have been had western nations not had the opportunity to enforce racism and discrimination as payment for "freedom".
Common sense is how can you know of racism if people are just one race? Stop being naive.
@@johnosumba1980 exactly, of course you won't have racism in a homogeneous society, Original poster is an idiot
Racism in the west....is real racism, they literally hate you because of your race & color
Not everyone in the west is racist and if the leader of a brutal dictatorship said she’s to be looked after nobody’s going to say shite and most North Koreans are too poor to care they have bigger problems and not everyone is racist theirs only a select few who are actually racist what you’re saying about the west is just bashing them for no reason at all
Koreans have other more pressing problems to worry about race issues
She’s so beautiful, I’m so sorry this happened 😢❤
They did that to save her life. Dad knew family was in trouble
Why’s the interviewer answering questions for her? Shut up and let her speak!
What a incredible heartbreaking story. Being abandoned by your mother is the worst.
But being alive is better
It doesn’t sound like she was abandoned, but I do believe she felt abandoned
@@annea5781 True. The mom probably knew but couldn’t bring herself to utter the words that she wasn’t coming back. Although this did more harm than good. On the flip side maybe she tried to come back but died or was killed. Does anyone know what happened to the mother?
Childhood Trauma and Pain never heals and this manifested as she cried about her mother. She is a beautiful and eloquent woman and hope she one day returns to Africa to fulfill her fathers instructions to her.
It had to be done
Her story is amazing, and she answers with such calmness and poise. I wish they used another interviewer because this guy just kept cutting in without letting her finish.
This is the worst interview I’ve ever watched. I feel bad that she didn’t receive the respect she deserved.
This is an incredible story.
My opinion is that some of the people we perceive as all "bad and evil" do have a bit of good in them. President Kim took care of her, and that's commendable.
What a fantastic human this lady is , God protect her
She's an extraordinary personality and her experience feels like a different dimension in history. Her experience is a legacy indeed.
This is an incredible story. It must have been so awful not to have known that the last time she saw her parents would be the last time.
Hers is an odd story, but even with most of us - we rarely know when the last time we will see someone. Both my parents are dead and the last time I saw each of them was as normal as any time I saw them.
Interviewer never let her answer few of his questions very impatient 😮
I have nothing but admiration, for the North Koreans and for this lady. Apparently North Koreans would never desert a friend at the hour of need; very different from what we are told by the main stream media
Who is that journalist? Absolutely horrific. Almost feels like he enjoyed her pain. Creepy
It's obvious her parents felt that they would get executed and that their daughter would be safe in North Korea, away from any revenge missions by new regimes. Her mother must have been equally devastated.
Would love to watch a longer segment with her. Her life sounds so interesting.
The interviewer was inappropriate for this case I am glad others felt the same way. I felt he was insensitive and lacked empathy, almost like he wanted to get some "traumatic response " out of her. Theres a better way to ask questions and get the story told without doing that.
The interviewer was doing the most. Let her answer!
Well, at least he didn’t violate her, and it seems that he didn’t allow anyone else to violate her either. So, he has my respect for keeping his promise.
Pretty one track mind huh?
What a terrible interviewer. Get this woman a good interviewer, we’d love to hear her story.
Thank you Monica for overcoming all hardships you faced to speak up for yourself .Make your country proud from wherever you are.
MONICA sounds very humble, classy, educated and very beautiful - The journalist was too harsh and brutal . I would love to know Monica
Man, he kept cutting her and was a bit to harsh (?) like give her a break!
Very rare show of Universal Loving Kindness & Compassion shown to this daughter of late President Equatorial Guinea by the late North Korea President Kim Il~Sung ... 🙏 We Thank You So Much late President Kim Il~Sung for taking good care of monica Macias when she needed the help the most when growing up! 🕯🌷🌿🌏💜🕊
she obviously speaks Korean like a native, and her ENglish is good.. she would make a good asset in politics and on the diplomatic level...
And forgot her mother tongue Spanish, me:👀Spanish I thought she's from Africa? Quick Google search oh yes another European colony, a Spanish one at that.
@@freetheworld2671 Surprisingly, that's where I hail. Its so weird seeing people from there outside of Spain, considering the place is very small.
@@freetheworld2671 equatorial Guinea was Spanish colony And they speak Spanish
@@freetheworld2671because she was young
Wow. That's an unimaginable childhood story. Thank goodness you're still here to tell it..
Poor thing. Thank goodness she was treated well.
Dear sweet lady, I pray God will comfort her. She has had an incredible experience. I will get her book.
"... living in London as a shop assistant" what a remarkably condescending way to wrap up the interview. Typical western media.
When I was in trade school about 20 years ago, my best friend was the son of EG's U.S. ambassador. Apparently, he had been sent to school as a punishment as he kept getting in trouble in the U.S. but he did mention this story to me when we were discussing North Korea once. I had completely forgotten that conversation until I saw this video just now.
I feel like the interviewer low key tried to diss her when he mentioned that she is “ a shopkeeper working in London” 👀
Is there a longer version of this interview? It felt quite incomplete and ended abruptly.
TERRIBLE JOURNALISM!! she's crying and he keeps asking sensitive questions.WHAT FOR? let het cry out and then pause the video, inhuman really
Some studio or someone needs to make movie/TV show about her life.
The interviewer did his best to confirm his stereotype, but all I understood from her words was that the Korean leader was a man of his words, not expecting any return from her
Is it an interview or an interrogation..!!?
No dictator would advice his child to study and come back to serve Africa... That's hero advice!! And thank you to Kim Il-Sung for protecting on of us
Dang could’ve gave her a tissue like wtf
Awful interviewer. Keeps on interrupting. He’s very arrogant in English media, too
From one dictator to another and they both treated her good.
And the Mafia look after their own.
Dictator behaviour are the best for parenting.
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In comparison to how they treated their own citizens.
Better than the half-brother and uncle of some dictator.
Your father wrote you a letter I believe telling you to study hard for Africa and come back to Africa.. And here you're living in London.
I felt that.
But she can't really go back to her home. The current dictator president is her cousin and part of the group that killed her father.
If she steps a bit into Equi-Guinea, she would be killed by him
I find this bitterly ironic. Her father was staunchly anti-intellectual, believing that it was a by product of western imperialism. He banned the wearing of glasses and education on pain of death. He even tried to stop his own people from leaving the country, but it was ok for his daughter to study abroad. Like so many despots, I guess the same rules didn't apply.
The one who killed her father is still in charge in her country.
@@kariluckis8030 How depressing
Her uncle @@kariluckis8030
I have so many questions. Very compelling interview.
Wow,what a life.😢❤🙏