5 Reasons NOT To Buy A Diesel Truck In 2022
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- Here it is everyone 5 reasons why not to buy a diesel truck in 2022. In this video I give the 5 reasons I think you should at least consider before buying a diesel truck including need vs want, fuel cost, emissions issues and more. My 2022 Ford Super Duty f-350 has been great for me but there is more to consider with a diesel vs a gas truck purchase. Enjoy....
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Your comment=Lazy brain
Is that your moms nickname?
My 99 7.3 runs perfect, I can work on it and no emissions BS. I don't need a race truck, just reliable ability to move whatever I need to.
You can work on the new ones also you just need more than just harbor freight wrenches and you can delete them pretty easy, but yes 7.3s are awesome but they don’t come even remotely close to a 6.7 pulling a trailer
Doesn’t take much to get a 7.3 into the realm of towing heavy stuff like the 6.7s do.
@@robertl9065 false
Not false, 2k in aftermarket engine upgrade and you have power of a 1st gen 6.7 no issues. And be simple and reliable
@@king7.3zf6lb7 you can do whatever you want to the 7.3 to improve power but alot of improvements have been made in the transmission that make the difference. I loved my 7.3 but it won't ever have performance of the 6.7
I agree with your comments. The only reason why I keep my diesel is because it's paid for and not a daily driver. 👍
Same same, rv and gooseneck puller when needed.
@@BruceMyersLBZthat's why I plan on getting a diesel for rv pulling but I also want to use the truck for off road, so I'm trying to figure out which is best
That’s probably why your truck has a shit load of problems
@@ThatLow_Slow5.3 My truck has zero problems. 12 years running strong.
I can really go for a mean tweet and a dollar gas right now
Me too
Trump was the greatest president of all time, and the election that he rightfully WON in 2020 was stolen. And here we are today. Ford truck prices are up 25-29% the last 3 years. Ram truck prices are up between 32-37% over the last 3 years, and that’s without Dealer markups…base model regular cab trucks cost now what a luxury truck cost 5 years ago. Doesn’t add up. The average price increase is 1.5% per year. The amount truck prices have gone up in the last 3 years, would normally have taken close to 20 years, going by history. Luxury trucks… that’s another topic I don’t even want to get into. Let’s just say the pussification of men is real. Roll down windows and vinyl seats, that’s a truck!
It's really much more simplistic than most people make it out to be. If you're into towing frequently, then by all means, buy a diesel. They have far more torque, and are ideal for towing---this especially includes you trailer-towing crowd. But if all you do is haul loads in the back of your truck (or nothing at all), there's no reason for you to own a diesel--the increased cost of maintenence offsets the mpg gains
1-5 because of the emissions.
Other then that, all 3 big diesels, you really can't go wrong with.
Depends on your application in my opinion but overall yeah all 3 would do you good
Just delete that shit
You should be putting additive in BEFORE you fill. Not after. You want it to mix. Not a big slug of additive floating around 😊
I do it both ways I’m sure it mixes around either way
I bought my 2008 E350 6.0 powerstroke before 2021 That's been deleted and studded and I love it as long as the diesel prices don't go $3 higher than the regular gas so if it's $4.40 a gallon for regular as long as it doesn't go over $7 a gallon it's still cheaper because I'm getting 21 mi per year gallon versus my 13 miles to the gallon.
3.0l Duramax diesel ⛽️ has been getting me 29mpg 😉 Love This Truck!
I’d love to have a Super Duty, but the F-150 Ecoboost is way more practical for me. Picked up a ‘22 earlier this year.
sucker. buy a old 7.3 and you headaches will disappear
I’ve got an 08 F350 with the 6.4. Had the new designed heads, dog delete and egr delete. Bruns like a top. You really need to have a use for it. I’ve got two trailer both in the 16,000 range so the diesel is perfect for towing. When I don’t tow it sits. Plus the drw is a pain to park. One thing you didn’t mention is the cost due to the quantity of oil and cost of filters. I wouldn’t work without one.
Despite the economic downturn, I'm so happy☺️I have been earning $60,200 returns from my $10,000 investment every 13 days
I just wanted to know your reasons. Our oldest son has a 2002 F-350 CC 4X4 dually with the 7.3L Power Stroke. He’s added a performance chip plus it’s straight piped. He loves his work truck, it’s a towing beast. But like you said price per gallon, you’ll need a 55 gallon barrel full of $100.00 bills just to fill up. You’re talking about new truck prices & dealerships markups, I’d walk away & not be foolish
I had the same 2002 F250 with 7.3 & the perf chip. it was so awesome! I had to sell it due to overseas tour. But right now honestly I know I could not afford that fill up. Good video. thx!
@yk2sunshine I'm about to buy a 00 250 7.3 diesel 6 speed manual, tuned, with a flatbed. I deff found a needle in a haystack condition truck but with only 1k miles on engine and trans I can't afford to say no.
Ok man you don’t need to add a fuel additive at every Fill up. And if you get fuel at Costco, 76, Shell, reputable fuel stations you won’t have a problem with that. Adding a fuel additive would be like every 15 to 20,000 miles. I usually add a few additive to my truck on one full tank before I change my fuel filter and I change my fuel filter every 20 to 25,000 miles. And I use a wicks fuel filter that filters down to 2 µm and it has a synthetic media. And with today’s trucks I would highly recommend switching to Amsoil. I have gained 2 miles per gallon from stock just by switching my engine oil transmission oil transfer case oil in front and rear differential oil. If you use a Amsoil signature series you can easily go 15,000 miles between oil changes. Amsoil says you can go 25,000 miles between oil changes but I do 10 to 15,000 miles because I do a lot of Intown driving and heavy pulling. And if you take care of your diesel truck knowing how diesels operate knowing how the emission system works you won’t have any problems with your emission system. With today’s vehicles the way that they’re engineered is around emissions they’re not like the trucks eight years ago and older. The new diesel engines are 100% engineered and designed around emissions. Unlike before they put emissions on engines that were not designed for it that’s where the problem started. Today’s diesel trucks if you take care of them and definitely not putting the cheapest fuel you can find in them they will last you a lot longer than a gas vehicle and give you better fuel Konomi than a gas pick up. I have a 3500 Rear Wheel Dr. pick up diesel and I get on average on a 300 mile trip 3.2 miles per gallon better than a friend of mine with his 1500 pick up. If the same year.
Now that sounds more like it. I have to believe what you are saying makes perfect sense. I’m about to buy a Chevy with the 3.0 and hope that engine will treat us right. So far all reviews say that it’s so. Thanks for your input.
@@hammer-r the 3.0L is so different then the 6.6L. They are good but not as good as the 6.6L I know some about that engine and what I do know is if you want a truck with the 3.0L and you can afford the 2500HD or the 3500HD with the 6.6 I would do that before I would get the 3.0L. And if you do decide to get the HD truck get the 2017 to 2019 L5P engine with 6 speed Allison transmission not the 10 speed.
@@hammer-r with the 3.0L it has a timing belt not a timing gear set which I do not like and it’s on the back of the engine on top of that. And it has a start stop feature which is terrible for diesel trucks and the emissions systems. Manufactures say that is not true their design to turn on and off constantly to save fuel but I got Proof that is not correct. Along with a bunch of other things that I’m not a fan of. But it is better then the gas engines and Ford and dodge smaller diesel engines.
@@Jc-bo1uu thanks for the advise.
@@Jc-bo1uu yea not a fan of stop start for a diesel. In fact you need to run idle an engine after a drive to cool down the oil and the turbo. Stop start does no good for the turbo.
A couple or few years ago I went hunting for a diesel truck and found a really nice Dodge Ram 2500 with the last of the 5.9 Cummins diesel engine . It the early 2007 . I'm the 3rd owner and it had 135,000 miles on it . I've been a mechanic all my life and have worked on and driven big rigs and trucks . Anyway , I knew what to look for and at when buying a truck . It's been a 5th wheel camper hauler all it's life for rich people until I bought it and it's spotless ! Damn thing looks and drives like new ! I got lucky as I almost gave up looking for my truck . It's the Mega Cab which I like in several ways except it has the turning radius of a dang School bus . But I love my 07 Dodge Ram 2500 Mega Cab 5.9 Cummins diesel truck with extra air bags for more weight . I bought it because the great condition it's in and got a heck of a deal on it plus it will last me till I die , so it's the last vehicle I'll ever buy . If you take care of your truck , it'll take care of you . A Cummins diesel engine will last me a million miles before it's time to rebuild it . It pulls my trailers great and does what I need , so I'm happy . By the way , Cummins is owned by Caterpillar , but they keep the two names and companies separate as both are known and used around the world . So for marketing reasons the kept the 2 names .
Same situation for me , 2007 ram mega cab but i have the 6.7 . I'm the 3rd owner and bought it from a diesel mechanic. Spotless and perfectly maintained. Should be my last truck purchase!
@@ericliebmann1087 Congratulations Eric . Please let me know how your engine holds up . Also if I may ask , what mileage does your truck have and if you have to do any repairs to your truck ? If I'm not mistaken , your truck requires DEF or am I mistaken ? As my truck with the 5.9 doesn't require the DEF .
I have a 2012 that I considered trading along with my F150 for a 22 Platinum F350. No more massaging seats though, which is the reason for a Platinum. Going to stick with my 2012 and make the short bed work for us instead. It's deleted and disaster prevention kitted. Rebuilding the front end to eliminate DW, and pulling the bed to repair the rust. No DEF, no DPF, Runs great, just getting rust underneath.
There are only three things you need to know about any vehicle:
1 How many fatal crashes per 100 thousand units sold.
2 Stopping distance at cursing speed on a wet road.
3 Its centre of gravity
Given that most crashes involve a single vehicle. and most single vehicle road fatalities involve rollovers. Its nice to know how prone to rollover a vehicle is. Because your cabin must be able to handle the dead weight of your vehicle when inverted, plus the kinetic energy of the crash: thats IF you want to walk away from a rollover crash.
Given all the above. Any van beats a light truck every day of the week. Light trucks are by far the most dangerous class of vehicles on the road, because they are top heavy, they have a long stopping distance because of their mass, and people tend to drive them like racing cars, which is suicidal.
I have both and the diesel is cheaper to run in the long run gas 8mpg diesel 18mpg. Better resale I see the old diesel trucks selling for more than they costs brand new
Never owned a diesel, don't know anything about then pre DEF or not, I always wanted one though. I appreciate the tips an information you give in this video.
I just removed my sled deck and swapped back to the factory wheels on my 2020 Ram 3500 Cummins because it’s leaving soon. My 7.3L gas F-350 was built at the beginning of May and should arrive here June 9th.
Diesel trucks get better fuel mileage than gas trucks so unless you plan on buying a sedan or SUV, get a diesel truck and do an egr delete
Diesel 7.00 dollars a gallon in California and diesel shortages on east coast is a good reason
I saw on Facebook someone mentioned it was $10 a gallon in some places in California.
@@ecappy4545 that's on the coast 80 percent of the vehicles over there are Tesla's and the nearest gas station from it is 38 miles away
I find in my area most guys buy a diesel is just to show off for the buddies.
I went with a 6.0 gas truck after my 06 dmax gave me tons of issues not engine issues but truck issues but I found unless your towing alot or hauling alot it isn't worth the extra price for diesel. And then on top of that. You have the bs to deal with the emissions stuff which isn't cheap. So the reliability of diesel has gone down hill due to that and it's to the point unless you want to take a chance at deleting the emissions which is against the law and could end up giving you a giant fine it's better to go with gas. Besides if you have a truck it's made to work not haul kids around to soccer practice.
Most gas trucks today can pull a heavy load without breaking a sweat. Do you good milage? No but again you bought it to work.
I went down a dirt road and heard some weird noises. Now I don't have any of the issues you speak of.
I was very fortunate I was able to find a 2001 f350 7.3 powerstroke diesel 4-wheel drive four-door dually 🤠.... but I had to drive all the way to Montana to get it and I live in North Carolina 😬... But it was worth it 👍🤠
I assume this mean only the larger trucks with larger diesels, not smaller diesels like the Duramax. As far as fuel prices, they go up and down. If you plan on holding onto it as a useful vehicle, you'll end up paying less than now.
I'm using renewable diesel based on fats vegetable and diesel, my 6.4 power-stroke regen a whole less now truck only has 12,000k original miles . I also a 5.9 Cummins truck she get the dirty diesel, pre emissions.
4.40 a gallon an 33 mpg highway 46.3 best 50 miles. I'll keep my diesel. Don't idle your diesel ever off idle to keep the oil psi up above 20 psi or your trashing your turbo...
Diesel 7 days a week twice on Sunday love my 6.7
im a 35 year vet in collision repair.i been working on a tboned 2016 2500 standard cab dodge ram 4 wheel drive.pulled the box cause cab corner was smooshed 3 layers in and backward,nevermind the tboned ram i found a very disturbing problem with rams.when you shut doors theirs plastic boxes behind cab with rubber flaps when i pulled box i saw flaps where missing like water was running into back of truck ander foam of carpet so today i lifted all carpet and foam the floor was full of water under the thick white foam backing they use thats disturbing.the flaps disintrigated and it had black mold everywhere owner never knew big plow truck.the rubber flaps where simply gone and the one s that where left i took my pinky and they fell right off
Damn 6 plus dollars a gallon,, I got nauseous yesterday filling my truck up here in Houston and it was $4.34 a gallon....
Worst I saw was 7 unreal
@@HammerdownMotorsportsUSA At $7 a gallon I'd park the truck..
I have options thank God..
Just bought me a fully loaded chevy l5p and love it 104k no issues yet. Wish me luck. Cause damn the emissions on these tptrucks is overkill
Diesel... I just bought a 2018 ram 3500 yesterday 6.7 Asian for towing all the time. I want to haul cars !
Nice video, no hating on one engine over the other just the facts. Most gas vs diesel usually ends up in a scuffle. 😄.
It sounds like a lot of people in this channel would be much happier driving electric trucks. As for me I will keep my diesel truck.
Not the channel I’d say more like keyboard warriors that don’t even subscribe
I watch this and i sit here thinking to my self, this video could have been made a decade ago over pretty much the same kitchen table issues with the cost of living
1. Fuel prices
2. See #1
3. See #2
4. See #3
5. See #4
Diesel
I will be picking my 3500 in June
Update Augs 2nd
I miss my old military 6.2 that I put a banks turbo on. It was fully mechanical and I could run on anything that would burn. Lol
7.3 diesel motor was the best motor ever invented both my 7.3 lasted over 700,000k miles my 2004 F350 had 864,689 miles when I traded it in. A new motor was 21,000$ I wish I’d of bought the motor now my F250 had 720k original engine and trans on both trucks I traded my 2002 250 for a new 2004 F350 king ranch I got it brand new off the lot and put over 850k on it. I quit towing and got a 2006 F150 and put 150k saw all the problems with the cam phasers and timing chains didn’t want to get stuck so I bought a new 5.4 engine with the problem fixed and I still have that truck to this day. In the next 2 years or so im going to get a 2020 - 2023 f250 platinum or 150 platinum 6.7 diesel or the twin turbo with the 10 speed, I, not paying 115k I could but I’m gonna wait 2 to 3 years and I’ll pay 50-60k . I paid 55k for my 2004 350 king ranch and I loved the truck but at the time 55k was a lot for a pickup I don’t need the newest toy with all the buttons I’m ok saving 50k and getting one that’s 2 or 3 years old. I just like the 2020-2023 150/250 body style
I would like to buy a new one …. Found a dealer who will sell at MSRP…Ordered an F350 power stroke KingRanch late last year… 5.5 months later… still not scheduled to be built… crazy times.
I ordered a 6.7 F250 in October. They told me I would have it before the end of the year. Long story short it showed up yesterday.
Got my 250 lariat in 4 months ordered in January
@@rmkratky Nice! I just got my email my truck is in production… I will be a diesel guy till I die!
Number 1 through 29 the cost of fuel and services.
Farmers are short on fertilizer. Look at the ingredients of Def fluid. Water and Fertilizer. They have been making us waste the fertilizer needed for crops.
Government should pay us to delete all that junk
@@HammerdownMotorsportsUSA the Government doesn't want us to eat tomorrow. I just found out myself an month ago. I thought it was something else. Not fertilizer. Same thing the farmers use. They made every Diesel engine use it. Even trains. All an set up. Although yes to what you said. Yet they don't listen to the people. It's an sick game they are playing. Yet your correct.
I was dealing on 2021. I am so glad I kept my 03 7.3 psd.
Diesel! ⛽️ Great vid! I’m about to trade in my 5.0 Mustang for and F250 so I can pull an RV….but with what I’m hearing about diesel shortages I’m starting to feel a little apprehensive 😕
Can’t beat diesel for towing
6.2 or 7.3 will work
I was thinking about getting a diesel as a daily driver, currently have a 2016 Nissan frontier, 17mpg, the dealership I work at has a 2011 dodge 2500 lariat for 30k, in debate
diesels are fun
Im about to trade my 14 raptor for for a 6.7...i test drove one, & the performance was crazy...
and then u buy a gas truck and hook up to ur camper and ur "gas" milage drops to 5 while the diesel still getting 15+
I just sold my 17 f250 with 60 k miles in good condition not excellent condition for $5000 more than I paid for it. Put the cash towards the house ,being out of debt is way more important than having a nice Diesel truck right now. Imho
good move
No diesel for me this time. I currently have a 2001 F250 7.3 diesel. None of the garbage on it but even though it’s bullet proof and all, it does not even compare to the power and quality of todays F250. But, I think I will pass on the diesel this time and stick with gas. Like you said, do I really need the diesel? No, just like what it can do IF I need it. Thanks for the video
I own a 1993 ford f250 7.3 idi.
It's not powerful but it runs on black diesel, has no emissions controls and is very reliable.
I believe that if a diesel can't be ran on black diesel/bio it's not worth the money.
If you have an older vehicle with a diesel then, in quite a few places you can get away without having dpf, or def systems, and in my state I'm not even required to have a cat on it, couldn't be happier and it runs great.
Same here
Diesels have more low end torque and are more economic they are more reliable and go on longer without maintenance and will last longer it will be more reliable than a gas engine and I think they are easy to work on least here in the EU
First….its a damn truck. Why is everyone wanting luxury truck? The main reason I bought a truck was I could actually use it as a work horse. Second…buying a truck for the prices they want is insane! It’s a truck. Third…people know they are getting ripped off and are still buying them things for high prices ….😂🤣. Don’t they realize being in debt is how they keep your working till you die? Who knows, maybe I’m just crazy.
I would love a little more back seat size than my quad cab, but just cant bring myself to "upgrade" from the 5.9
Only upgrade to that would be a 7.3 idi , 5.9 is better than all the others though
Actually fck all these electic pieces of garbage , time for all mechanical engineers to reign
Get a megacab 5.9. Probably the holy grail
On a 2005 Cummins that I rarely drive how often should I change the oil? Someone told me once per year but not sure if that is acceptable.
Glad my diesel 7th gen Suburban predates most EPA garbage...
Great Video! Thanks for the info. I was looking at a diesel today. I kind of want one, but I only tow our boat (8000-9000 lbs. depending on fuel and gear) in DE. I might do 50 miles of towing a year. Probably going to stick to the half ton Silverado. BTW are you in Lancaster County? That Sheetz looked real familiar.
Truck driver enters the room who has never changed his oil in over a million miles.
Fjb. I bought a 2019 ram rebel in 2019, gas was $1.85 per gallon, love the truck, fjb
I can watch him kick that box all day🤣😂🤣😂
I get my DEF at the pump for 1/3 the cost.
Diesel!
Most people that buy diesel trucks. Only get them because it's a diesel. I almost got one , but I went with a HD gasser . I have a Ram 2022 with the 6.4L Hemi. I pull a 15 gooseneck dump. I haven't so far wished I had more power. Time will tell I geuss....
The diesel looks good on paper but no way in hell i would buy a modern diesel unless it was necessary like in a 1 ton pulling max loads all the time. Its easy to get caught up in the numbers but 20 years ago people were pulling the same loads with less power than the modern gas engines produce and no 8 or 10 speeds either. Now people need 1000 ft lbs to tow a lawnmower lol.
Here is another perspective... looking at the new Lamborghini Huracan Technica....order takes about 3 years for delivery with a cost about $285K. Eats premium gas like there is no tomorrow, can't hold anything, can't haul period and expensive as hell to insure and attracts attention like bugs on the hood of a SuperDuty down south. Do I like it? Absolutely. Can I justify it? Not really. Will I still buy it - of course!!! There is nothing else like it!!!
$5.75 for reg gas in N CA at discount stations. Gas and D will be over $10 soon
170 bucks for a tank at 5.99
@@HammerdownMotorsportsUSA it's the shitter my D sits parked unless needed
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Yep, a 2022 diesel isn’t for a sissy boy or city boys. Wait… are they the same person?? 😂 I gotta disagree with your reasoning. Plus, I’m just about to take possession of a ‘22 F350 Platinum Tremor.
1. If you can afford a diesel truck, you should be able to afford the maintenence and the diesel. Plus, most Godzilla’s I’ve been seeing get worse fuel performance than the stock 6.4. This is going to, in part, offset some of the fuel expense. Plus, oil prices will go back down a fair amount in a couple of years - ESPECIALLY if we elect a energy friendly (read Republican) President in 2024. Once the global Covid panic finally goes away the oil price will go back down a fair amount - unfortunately for someone like me in the oil business. Lol
2. You even said how responsive your truck is WITH the emissions crap on it RIGHT before you complained about the emissions gear limiting the truck. Lol. A delete is always possible. Although, personally, I’m leaving mine on until a get (at least) near the end of my warranty. If you treat it right until your warranty ends and THEN delete the truck… that truck will last WAY longer than the gasser.
3. You don’t HAVE to pay through the nose if you go to one of the dealers, like Granger Ford in Iowa, who are letting you order trucks for only like 2% over invoice. I ordered mine for almost $8k BELOW MSRP from Granger. Sure, I gotta fly from South Texas to Des Moines to pick it up but one way tickets are still about $375. 1.95% interest from my local credit union makes the money VERY cheap to borrow. NOW IS THE TIME TO BUY! In another year or so you’ll be lucky to find a 7% interest rate. These two factors make this, actually, a pretty awesome time to buy, imo.
4. Diesel trucks retain their value much better than gassers. At least here in Texas.
I do agree that buying a diesel if you never tow anything might be kinda silly but given the better value retention, longer service life (generally), the reasonable (imo) mileage for such a large truck, the options they offer (if you decide to get an RV, boat, etc) and all the cool upgrades (like deletes) that are available when you’re ready, I can’t see ANY reason to get a gasser Super Duty. If you need a super efficient and cheap vehicle you shouldn’t be looking a a full size truck, period.
I do love your content but I gotta beg to differ on this one, particular video. God Bless!
Appreciate you watching its really just to beg the question but I’m for the diesel all the way God bless
I gotta disagree with one thing if you ride out the warranty and then delete your truck the damage is already done 60k-100k miles running that def and egr BS on a new diesel literally eats them from the inside out I would recommend instantly deleting if you buy a new one kinda goes with your other point if you buy a diesel you should be able to cover the cost of deleting it and if it happens to blow up without warranty you should be able to afford the 20k bill to fix it. The new gas motors in these HD trucks aren’t so bad like you make it out to be.
Exactly my thoughts except what others have mentioned with fixing the emissions from new. It’s a gamble, but think how long you will be out of a truck if it goes to the dealer and waits for parts. Unless your dealer has HD truck loaners, you will be without a truck that meets your needs and probably in a Mitsubishi car until they get the parts. Best to learn to do your own work and make the truck reliable.
@@Back_door_bandit_98 I COULD afford to do what you suggest but that contradicts what one of my closest friends says and he’s the top Ford diesel mechanic in a 80 mile radius. He’s independent now, after 20+ years of working at a Ford dealership (we live in a very rural farming/ranching community) as the lead diesel mechanic. The dealerships within that 80 mile radius actually bring him vehicles and, when they can, get him to come work on problem trucks at their dealership. I say this only to establish his credentials. HE thinks it’s crazy to delete a new truck still under warranty. He’s aware of my financial situation and he still cautioned me against deleting until the warranty runs out; and he’s also the one that advised me to get a 125k-150k warranty. He’s had good luck with doing it this way. Different strokes for everyone but I’m sticking with his advise and was only sharing my thoughts based on his educated opinion.
I’m starting a construction job where I will not be doing a lot of hauling but I will be doing LOTS and LOTS of driving. Should i buy a gas burner or a diesel?
Honestly, after some consideration, when it comes time to replace my 2015 RAM 1500, I think I might go with a gas 2500. I was considering a RAM 3500 Cummins HO as my next truck, but I don't want to deal with DEF, DPF, and all the other emissions throughout the warranty period. I'd get the 3500 to get the HO, so I would have the Aisin instead of piece of shit known as the 68RFE. My next truck will likely end up being a F-250 with the 7.3 gas, mostly because its a pushrod V8 and doesn't seem to have any major problems. I'm fine with the limits of a half ton and would get one if they weren't subject to CAFE fuel economy regulations. Three quarter ton trucks simply don't have all the little things to get 0.01 more mpg to raise the CAFE average. Electronic power steering is a big one for me, I simply can't trust those EPS racks after my rack failed *MID DRIVING* on my RAM. I'd much rather have a hydraulic rack, where the chances of it working one minute then shutting completely off the next is very slim.
In my RAM, my electronic rack failed at about 150k miles and I refuse to replace it because of the way it failed. I was simply driving down the road with power steering, then suddenly there was a warning on the cluster that said "Service Power Steering" and it just quit, making my wheel very difficult to turn. Now with the truck at 174k miles, I still haven't replaced the rack and power steering still isn't working. Luckily I was driving straight when the rack decided it was time to die, if it died mid turn, I probably would have crashed. Shortly after my rack failed, I looked it up on several forums and the racks seem to die when they want to. Some make it past 200k miles with no issues, others die at 30k miles. And I've heard of some dying after hitting potholes. I've decided that manual steering on a power steering rack is safer than replacing the rack with one that could fail in the exact same way. And on another note, the steering rack boots are being held on by zip ties instead of a hose clamp, which may indicate the steering rack or the boots have been replaced in the past.
I’m done with diesel pickup trucks. I love the concept and the sound of the engine very cool but so finicky fragile quirky. Ford and Chevy I have not had a Cummins always something going on…I know most of it is government bull$hit. But I’m done. I have 2 fords and 2 Chevy all gasoline and zero problems for 5 years…I know very sad but true towing equipment trailers , snow plowing …so much better every day reliability
Hands down Diesel trucks hold there value better than gas engine trucks, last longer, tow better especially on steep hills.
I already own a Diesel 2017 Colorado ZR2 and I'll tell you that $130.00 fill-ups sucked and why I no longer feel that they are worth it anymore. Also, all those emissions gadgets are a pain in the ass--especially having to put DEF in it where in a gas vehicle--you never have to. Bye, diesels--you were fun at one time, but not anymore. Sad. ☹
Yes they took the fun out with all that junk
Get anything you want gas diesel electric car. You always gunna have problems, i think the best car you gunna have is when you actually learn how to fix it if it gas,diesel or electric..
New Diesel owner here.
I've heard / read many times that you should only re-fuel at high capacity stations. What exactly does that mean?
I see in this video that you re-fueled at Sheetz. What's your opinion on that? Is any Sheetz good enough or should I be more picky than that?
sheetz has been good its a really busy station best is truck stops that have fresh fuel regularly
The fuel is filtered at the pump and on your truck. Plus, all diesel comes from the same place. Just buy the cheapest diesel and keep your filters up to date.
In California it’s almost the same for 87 octane and diesel
Premium in many places are higher than diesel
Crazy California
Unless you're towing a huge load and don't need the payload! I can give you 20 reasons to stay away from oil burners!
Love my Power Stroke, wouldn't have anything else. I do all my own maintenance so thats not an issue. Fuel costs, I don't care. FJB
Diesel
If you don't pull all the time with heavy weight its completely stupid to buy diesel! I actually wouldn't buy any new vehicle.. IMO they are complete junk. I would buy a 15 year old rust free truck and drive it! And it will be paid for and can buy a lot of parts for the 900 dollar a month truck payment plus 150 in insurance!!
Its flat out dumb
Good considerations, Im considering letting my diesel go for some of those reasons.. Politics are playing a big part, fuel costs are artificially inflated, they figure if they make it so expensive, they can force you electric.. All done on purpose.. sad state we are in..
I had a 2016 Chevy Colorado 2.8 diesel. I was tired of all the emissions crap on it and the constant regens with the 6000.00 stupid dpf filter. I traded it for a Ford Ranger
meh. my 7.3 will run in used motor oil. plus I can drive 115,000 miles with buying diesel at the price of an ev
Artificially inflated it's thanks to a 70 percent carbon tax that stupid Trudeau put on fuel.
Lots of conspiracy theories. There is no conspiracy to get you to switch to electric, just brainless assertions. The truth is that everyone is hitting the road and supply is down because of the war in Ukraine. Capitalism 101: decreased supply and increased demand = price increase. FYI electric vehicle charging prices are also rapidly increasing for similar reasons.
Biden started that as so ashe was elected by closeing XL pipeline and prices started its climb the Trudeau in canada put a carbon tax on 70 percent then after they the fake news media say its the war in Ukraine bullshit leaders that care more for migrants than residents in both countries.
#4 : Its not a matter of need, its a matter of a want I can afford. Although I will admit if fuel cost gets much higher the F350 will get parked more often.
If you need a diesel you can afford one. One would not buy a new one. Plenty of used ones that work well.
Agree with every point. I have a 2021 F550 service truck and opted to order with the 7.3 gas. No regrets.
“It’s 2022 and it’s a sad state that our economy is in”..... what is this guy talking about?? JOE BIDEN said we’re doing GREAT 👍🏻!!!
Something my FIL told me is to never buy fuel if the ground around the pump is too clean. Dirty ground means a lot of trucks means they go thru fuel more often.
is something wrong with the pumps?? Why they leaking? Like going to the bathroom the damn urinals are wet all around cuz the dicks can't aim right?
Diesel has unfortunately become a high maintenance girlfriend... seems fun at first but most people will eventually grow tired of it and realize that it's not worth the effort (or money). Diesel engines are a unique upgrade in the sense that they require so much more effort to maintain, on top of being less reliable due to emissions equipment and 3x the cost in service. No other consumer vehicle suffers from anything like this when going for the top performing engine. I'd love for Ford to sell a supercharger or twin turbo option for the 7.3 gasser.
That's why I bought an 01 7.3l Ford when I got my diesel. If I needed the super heavy towing ability of the 6.7 that would be one thing, but the 7.3 is insanely reliable
Yeah they started making the diesel in the 1800’s they haven’t got tired of them yet so.... lol
Gassers spend your money at the pump just a trade off
@@robperkins2674 diesel costs $1.75 more per gallon where I live. There is no trade off; diesel costs more per mile to drive now. Even when diesel was cheaper you'd have to put 100-300k miles on your truck to get the 8-10 grand back, which doesn't account for the increased service and maintenance costs
@@sly9263 I’ll keep my old good dog thanks never a new diesel truck for me way out of my reach when she dies I’ll think about what’s next but the way that truck runs I won’t have to worry about it for a long time and got a grocery getter so fuck Joe Biden
If the price is high or over priced of course bad time. But my F350 6.7 with its 740+ mile range per fill up and roughly 22+ MPG average w/wo trailer half the time. I love it. Can’t live without it, mentally.
I'm a professional diesel repair technician of 23 years. I can definitely say a diesel truck will cost you 2x more in maintenance than a gas in overall ownership. Not including replacing injectors, pumps etc! If you're not towing then don't buy it to be more manly. You will regret it.
I have zero regrets, but continue to tell people how to live
No regrets here either…. Family of diesel mechanics as well so yeah there’s that.
Can't understand why anybody would want a diese truck unless they tow alot lt cost way more to fuel it hell even a cheap oil change is 100 bucks !!
A diesel truck is a man's truck. You drive what you want and we'll do the same.
You know he’s right!
Appreciated your straight forward answer to the question you are 100% correct on the maintenance of a diesel engines a lot of people don't know how much maintenance a diesel engine requires to keep them running smoothly 👍
Diesel. Ha. I’ve had my 6.7 since 2014. Aside from changing the seal on the vacuum pump cover, *knocks on wood* I have not had a single issue with the truck motor-wise or much else in 149k miles. I did delete it, though. (It also has the banks ram-air intake, and the diff cover. Good choices.) It has been under a-rod’s care for the last couple of years now basically as well.
You are never going to change the minds of a die hard diesel fanatic or gas man, I can only put in my 2 cents. Had a 2003 F350 duley with a old IDI 7.3 with a 5 spd with over 220,000 miles on it with no major component failures other than a alternator. Yes I changed out the POS glow plugs kept up with the coolant ph , did not pull anything over 10,000lbs and yes I was passed going up steep grades, but still getting high teens as a norm. Due to a medical mistake had to give up the 5spd so went to research a new tow rig. Ended up ordering a 2021 F250 due to the problems Ram and GM were having with their engines with their on demand engine fuel management systems. which turned into a 2022 model do to the component shortages. I still wanted the power and torque of the diesel but without the added maintenance down the road which is why I ordered it with the new 7.3 and 4.30 elock in the rear. All the towing capacity I need minus the 10,000 dollar option, just my 2 cents.
And no exhaust fluid
You're right- you can't change the minds of people making emotional decisions. Objectivity and math however shows a clear winner in terms of cost to buy, operate and maintain.
Only one problem the 7.3. I.d.i production was stopped in 1994 after that it was 7.3. Direct injection power stroke
@@sly9263
It’s easier to fool someone than convince them that they’ve been fooled. Once people make up their minds, that’s usually it.
Agreed, most guys in Georgia have diesels for compensation. Hummm big truck little pecker!
I wonder what it means if you have a big truck AND a big pecker?
I have a 2006 Duramax extended cab, with under 90,000 miles and in perfect shape. Seldom use it but from what I learned from you, it must be worth much more than a non diesel. No additives needed other than a little into the fuel.
How much you want for it? 🤣
@@mckadebrown1908 Was thinking the same thing!
I have a very nice 2001 Excab 4x4 2500HD Duramax 6.6 LB7 with 93,000 miles 15.5 to 16 mpg city and 22 to 23 mpg highway.
No the fuck you don’t stop the 🧢
Too late as well. 2022 King Ranch Tremor.
Number 6: I don't give a fuck I always will drive a diesel I don't care about how much diesel is because I got money. I always keep up in maintenance on my diesel trucks. But I would like if sleepy joe can lower the gas and diesel prices down and also go to sleep and never ever wake up again.
I love my 2022 6.7 Cummins HO but in hind sight a 6.4 Hemi would have been a smarter decision for me. I agree 100% with everything you said. And I hate the DEF, EGR BS!!
I made the mistake of buying a new gas 6.4 in 2020. Hated everything about it especially fuel costs. That truck drank an obscene about of fuel. Traded it in for another diesel after 6 months and won't make that mistake again.
@@treeamigo8447 But how much DEF did it drink? Exactly!!
@@Motleymick
Def lasts quite a while unless you're always hooked to a trailer. Go buy you a 6.4 and I promise you'll be looking for a way out almost the day after you buy it. Looks practical on paper, that's why I went that route but in practice, a world apart from that diesel.
@@Motleymick it might not drink def but that 6.4 will certainly eat a lifter and cam. Then you'll need a whole new engine.
@@treeamigo8447 how do you keep ur diesel reliable?
Even with everything listed I would still purchase a diesel over an electric vehicle 💯! Over gas engine most likely but not 100%, I could always put a turbo on a gas V8 and be semi happy.
Electric sucks and will fade
@@edwinhermanson8842
Fade what? It’s literally going to be law. Very soon the only vehicles that will be sold will be electric. Like within the next 15-20 years. It’s not just a fad, unfortunately.
Look besides a couple small boats and light camper, I don’t need my 350 and I probably wouldn’t have it- but Id never get rid of it for one reason alone, I feel so much joy passing by a storming liberal with a mask on in there car going 10 under the speed limit .
Nothing like a Diesel! 🇺🇸🦅🇺🇸
“Nothing like an old diesel” Fixed that for you. These newer diesels even deleted and straight pipe just don’t have the same bald Eagles that they use too. The 5.9 Cummins and 6.0 Powerstroke were prime diesels. Even at idle they just sound badass not to mention straight piped nothing touches them. these new diesels stock are as quiet as my gas saver 99 honda civic
I’m looking to get my 1st diesel idk 7.3 5.9 or 6.7 I just want reliable I rebuild Allison transmissions and never owned a diesel
For some Canadian folks average diesel price in southern Ontario Canada 🇨🇦 is $2.50 a litre🤑🫣