Debt: The First 5000 Years, Chapter 1: On The Experience of Moral Confusion. David Graeber Audiobook

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  • Debt: The First 5000 Years. David Graeber Audiobook
    Chapter 1: On The Experience of Moral Confusion
    David Graeber's Dank Audio Stash: • David Graeber's Dank A...
    Red Library Podcast episode on the book: • Debt: The First 5000 Y...
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    Review with fun responses from Graeber: libcom.org/lib...
    "1) I do not make debt the main factor of social development. I merely make it the main topic of my book. 2) that slavery and wage labor are forms of exploitation of labor is self-evident. It is absurd to say I don't recognize it. This is like insisting that every time one mentions fascists one has to also clarify that they are right-wing. [...] 5) I do not reject the labor theory of value. I simply note that neoclassical economists, with whom I clearly disagree on almost everything, reject it. In fact I've written an entire book on the labor theory of value. I simply don't emphasize that body of my own theory here. [...] 8) I do not propose a vision for the future. I say quite specifically that I am not going to propose a vision for the future. In fact I say I am making no policy proscriptions at all other than the idea of a clean-slate. Your writing here is disgraceful and you owe me an apology. You've just made things up off the top of your head, based on your (almost entirely incorrect) assumptions about my politics and what you think I would envision Pure hostile extrapolations. [...] Maybe rather than condemn the book, you should reflect on how you managed to read a book by a theorist who has written extensively in favor of a labor theory of value, uses an explicitly post-Workerist Marxist approach to the current economic crisis, and looks forward to the abolition of the state and capitalism, but just wasn't explicitly emphasizing those aspects in the text, and ask yourself how you so completely missed it all. Because this is really an embarrassment."
    Critical reception: (en.wikipedia.o...)
    "[...] The book was reviewed by way of a debate in radical left Jacobin magazine. In the first review, Mike Beggs wrote that while "there is a lot of fantastic material in there", he "found the main arguments wholly unconvincing...Graeber is a wonderful storyteller. But the accumulation of anecdotes does not add up to an explanation, and certainly not one that would overturn the existing wisdom on the subject, conventional or otherwise". In response, J. W. Mason defended the book. He noted that the book's "key themes are in close harmony with the main themes of heterodox economics work going back to Keynes," and that while it is "no substitute for Marx, Keynes and Schumpeter, for Minsky and Leijonhufvud, for Henwood and Mehring... it is a fine complement." He also underscored that Beggs' criticisms are drawn mainly from conservative streams of economics."
    Contents
    01: On The Experience of Moral Confusion
    02: The Myth of Barter
    03: Primordial Debts: Is Money a Commodity or an IOU?
    04: Cruelty and Redemption
    05: A Brief Treatise on the Moral Grounds of Economic Relations
    06: Games with Sex and Death
    07: Honor and Degradation, or, On the Foundations of Contemporary Civilization
    08: Credit Versus Bullion, And the Cycles of History
    09: The Axial Age (800 BC - 600 AD)
    10: The Middle Ages (600 AD - 1450 AD)
    11: Age of the Great Capitalist Empires (1450 - 1971)
    12: (1971 - The Beginning of Something Yet to Be Determined)

КОМЕНТАРІ • 59

  • @skyedogg
    @skyedogg 4 роки тому +167

    Rest in peace Graeber

    • @thr404
      @thr404 3 роки тому +7

      Rest in Power!

    • @blakebrown534
      @blakebrown534 2 роки тому +2

      I only found out we lost him about 6 months ago and I was sooo upset. Truly a radical thinker...one of the quirky guys we need in this world who looks at things a little bit differently

    • @ronithmenon5282
      @ronithmenon5282 2 місяці тому

      😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮​@@blakebrown534

  • @KenrickLeiba
    @KenrickLeiba 3 роки тому +44

    I hadn't realised Graeber died last year until I read the comments. This is a great loss to the world. RIP Graeber.

  • @arizona1100
    @arizona1100 3 роки тому +20

    this came up in my algorithm a month ago and i’ve almost finished the book now. love it. rest in power.

  • @dansoderburg1854
    @dansoderburg1854 2 роки тому +11

    I’m so fascinated by the audiobook reader guy. This guy also did Jurassic Park. Dude got a killer voice. Dude rocks.

  • @hahaforrealtho8967
    @hahaforrealtho8967 4 роки тому +8

    RIP DAVID! Build monuments to this guy

  • @Peace2051
    @Peace2051 Рік тому +6

    This is an amazingly insightful series! Thanks, Dank, for putting this playlist together. It's embarrassing that my home state of Minnesota is brought up in this context.

  • @josephs.3372
    @josephs.3372 4 роки тому +19

    Ah, I've listened to a few presentations from this guy. Good to see his book up to finally dig deeper.

  • @Mr1van5
    @Mr1van5 4 роки тому +17

    This is fantastic, thank you so much for uploading

  • @nancysutton7891
    @nancysutton7891 4 роки тому +14

    Thanks for uploading this!! A great book... and more of us should read/listen! I'll pass the word on :)

  • @theory_underground
    @theory_underground 3 роки тому +5

    I love this book so much

  • @CartoonManWhoo
    @CartoonManWhoo 3 роки тому +8

    David, among others, made me an anarchist!

  • @el_m3allem
    @el_m3allem 2 роки тому +4

    glob bless you for uploading

  • @abird7823
    @abird7823 4 роки тому +6

    Thank you! This book is so important.

  • @nullhyperthesis8428
    @nullhyperthesis8428 3 роки тому +3

    Man this channel kicks ass

  • @marxist_scum
    @marxist_scum 2 роки тому +3

    miss you, David

  • @theory_underground
    @theory_underground 4 роки тому +4

    keep up the good work

  • @3dsamtube
    @3dsamtube 2 роки тому

    RIP.. YOU CONTINUE LIVING IN OUR HEARTS AND THOUGHTS

  • @milesgallon8326
    @milesgallon8326 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the upload. Power is knowledge and weapons are books

  • @bschonger83
    @bschonger83 3 роки тому +3

    Thank you

  • @raphaelradespiel9970
    @raphaelradespiel9970 4 роки тому +3

    Rest in power

  • @paulmatcott2215
    @paulmatcott2215 2 роки тому +3

    Dr Joseph Farrell references Mr Graeber in his excellent book 'The Financial Vipers of Venice'. Definitely worth a read :)

  • @modusoperandi4769
    @modusoperandi4769 9 місяців тому +1

    17:40 am I the only one laughing out loud at this joke ?

  • @mikevincent6332
    @mikevincent6332 3 місяці тому

    He died from necrotic pancreatitis after months of strange health symptoms both he and his wife were sufferring from. They blamed it on CV but if you look it up its a known side effect of the interventions

  • @muffinspuffinsEE
    @muffinspuffinsEE 4 роки тому +2

    R.I.P

  • @Lance0714
    @Lance0714 2 роки тому

    Understand debt forgiveness
    and debt jubilee

  • @JasonJayJJ1
    @JasonJayJJ1 Рік тому +1

    Rollo Tomassi got me here. Talking about dowry.

  • @Jetpack_J0
    @Jetpack_J0 Рік тому +1

    Great boook learned about it from the tv series called "THE BLACKLIST "

    • @DankAudioStash24
      @DankAudioStash24  Рік тому +2

      Thanks for the rec! Had never heard of it but definitely looks entertaining. :)

    • @Jetpack_J0
      @Jetpack_J0 Рік тому +1

      @@DankAudioStash24 its the latest episode aired from this season

  • @thatanimepfpguy
    @thatanimepfpguy 2 роки тому +1

    13:48 if Haiti is in debt then why do all the countries send it money?

    • @Lesboi
      @Lesboi Рік тому

      Otherwise countries won't be afraid of defaulting on loans because of indifference otherwise...i think so

  • @redman6790
    @redman6790 3 роки тому +1

    @18:04

  • @teoparra5426
    @teoparra5426 2 місяці тому

    32:51

  • @01iviaa
    @01iviaa Рік тому +1

    is this the updated and expanded version or the original

  • @tjs9876
    @tjs9876 Рік тому

    7:57

  • @wabakoen5548
    @wabakoen5548 Рік тому

    RIP

  • @roc7880
    @roc7880 2 місяці тому

    business loans made during the pandemic were forgiven, but student loans not. SCOTUS had no issue with the former, only with the latter. It seems socialism is bad only when it helps the lower classes.

    • @DankAudioStash24
      @DankAudioStash24  2 місяці тому +2

      @@roc7880 What is the relation of the Supreme Court and socialism ?

  • @LL-cz5ql
    @LL-cz5ql 3 роки тому

    F