Which Emma movie is better? 2020 or 1996?
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- Right, this is serious. The best Jane Austen comedy is at stake here. Gwyneth Paltrow or Anya Taylor-Joy? Autumn de Wilde or Douglas McGrath? Whether you've just seen the trailer or you've seen it in the cinema, let me know how you feel!
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Something I found hilarious in the 2020 version was how shocked and put out Mr . Knightley always looked when he entered a room and Frank Churchill was there. There was just something about that I found hilarious; they both just give a start like “what the hell are you doing here?!”
Sarah Ogborn hahaha i loved this non verbal tension between the two of them
I love that Mr. Knightley points out to Emma that she makes it clear she doesn't like Jane Fairfax, and then we see Mr. Knightley look at Frank Churchill like he wants to murder him every time they're in the same room.
sevenfaces Oh my god, that’s so true. And men still do it to this day... Men: “Women are so dramatic...” Also men: (throws a tantrum over something stupid without seeing any irony)
@@sevenfaces I'm surprised it didn't end with bodies TBH. If looks could kill this movie is a massacre
I loved their first scene together, when they both enter at the same time, pause, keep walking, Emma walks between them and they both stop at the door waiting for the other to walk in. The pacing in that scene is AMAZING.
My favorite scene from the 2020 version: Mr. Knightley running after Emma’s carriage all the way to Hartfield from the ball. Emma running down to meet him, their eyes lock into each other, Knightley’s about to say something... and Frank Churchill interrupts them. HAHAHA AMAZING
That was a cool scene, but I kind of like how the 1996 one leaves it more of a surprise to Emma when he proposes at the end. In the 2020 one, it didn't seem like she could be surprised by his feelings, between the hot dance scene and then this scene following.
@@mstie3252 I think the way it works is showing Mr. Knightley slightly snub Emma afterwards, several times. And after the "Badly done" scene where he just up and leaves, she probably thinks if he had any affection for her, it's gone.
indeed
My favorite scene from the 2020 version: THE ENTIRE FILM!!!!
@@rizahawkeyepierce1380 def as well as Emma's discussion with Harriet thinking Knightley likes her. Emma is left thinking Knightley doesn't admire her as much
How at no point in this did you mention the costuming!?! I couldn't stop staring at all those incredible collars!! And the way they styled Mrs Eltons hair was perfection.The format of this one and the humour style reminded me a lot of The Favourite, I loved it!
Oh yes the costumes were SO YUMMY. Alexandra Byrne is a legend 🙌
Costumes are eye candy for me! Always important, in my opinion, and yes, deserve high praise in the 2020 version. Not that 1996 didn't have exquisite costumes.
The costumes were beautiful. Mrs Elton's hair is actually arranged in a style that was fashionable in the 1820s-30s, but I suppose they wanted her to look slightly nouveau riche and pretentious.
Karolina Zebrowska has talked about it
The tone of the narrative made me remember the favorite too
Actually they had me at the trailer when Bill Nighy nailed the stair landing.
the dance scene in the 2020 version...... the yearning and the eye contact.. my favourite genre
God I actually couldn't believe how hot it was during the first watch - had to watch it again. Reminded me very much of the Pride and prejudice adaptation with Keira Knightley and the hand flex - aaaah, I actually cannot explain to anybody who doesn't read Jane Austen or watches adaptations of her books how sexy some of this stuff is
@@fridaherbst719 remember watching it in cinemas and hitting my friend the tension....
Gwyneth Paltrow and Kate Beckinsale did great movies of Emma - each in her own style. But IMO the best one was Romola Garai - it was more complete and rounded, possibly helped some by being a miniseries.
TheEntilza Yes! Also my favourite! Honestly I watch the miniseries at least once a year!
Completely agree. It's amazing.
The best adaptation hands down! Romola and Johnny Lee were fantastic and so was all the supporting cast
absolutely this
I have seen all of the versions of Emma and I think that the best adaptation was the Romola Garai one. It was the most romantic and heart felt.
A friend took me to see the 2020 version for my birthday (just before lockdown started), we were the only people in the theater under 40, and I giggled like a teenager throughout the movie because I was so delighted by how well it captured Austen's satirical tone and sense of humor. I felt like it was really effective in translating Austen's style for a modern audience. It doesn't hurt that I've been crushing on Johnny Flynn since Lovesick as well. I interpreted Emma's coldness and even meanness to be tied to a need for control that I've always read in the character, she seeks to control how people see her and have influence on their lives because she is so afraid of being alone or not well-regarded. I felt like this version really captured the underlying loneliness and distance Emma feels due to her station. I remembering reading the book for a book club when I was 14 and all of my friends hated Emma, and I was a bit indignant that they didn't try harder to understand her, because to me she was a character who was misguided and a bit arrogant about her own intelligence on the surface, but deep down was just trying to figure out her role in society and in relationships. I also felt that Harriet's portrayal was really effective in reminding the audience how young she really is, to me seeing so clearly that she's a teenage girl, and the Emma isn't much older really makes sense of their relationship. Always love these videos, Leena!
I loved Johnny Flynn as Mr Knightly.
I definitely disagree on the Harriet one; I read the novel right before watching the movie, and I got the impression that Harriet is almost a caricature of the young, naive girl trope in order for Emma to appear “better” to the others in Highbury and the reader. I think the 2020 Harriet was superb and added an important layer of humor
Mr. Knightley throwing his jacket to the ground was hilarious and probably my favourite scene
Also the red cloaks reminded me of Madeleine
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Up until now my favourite Emma adaptation was the 1996 made for TV movie with Kate Beckinsale, but the 2020 version has definitely topped it. It took me a little while to warm to it as well, but that dance scene won me over, I literally swooned in the cinema. I loved all the casting except Mr Elton, in the book you really feel that friendzone danger about him where I was almost worried for Emma's safety when she refuses him which I did not get from Josh O'Connor, and Frank Churchill was so bland. But Anya Taylor-Joy and Johnny Flynn were perfect for me. I particularly loved the inclusion of the servants, the way they're treated like part of the furniture by everyone, it was a great way to show the character's privilege without sidetracking from the story. I think someone could make an Emma that I'll love better than this one, but this has definitely become my new favourite.
I thought the servants were excellent too! Both as a privilege highlighter, and sometimes a comedic foil (with the footman when Mr Knightley is lying on the floor). I'm glad someone else enjoyed it!
I'm almost certain Harriet's most precious treasures are in the book because in clueless I remember Brittney Murphy tries to burn a cassette tape in the same scene.
I thought I remembered that too. Now must go look, though Emma was not a book I liked.
Sick of Reading yes it's in the book
I think the notebook of sermons might have been supposed to be this?
The most recent Emma’s costumes are absolutely lovely.
Scarlet wool cloaks worn while visiting or to church became so popular among English women in the 18th and 19th centuries that they are the closest England ever came to having a traditional folk costume.
I have Always loved both book and the original 1996 version very much so I was very nervous to watch it but wow they did it. This might actually be the best Jane Austen adaptation I've seen so far, I loved it so much!! I specially like the odd câmera angles, the color pallete and just how mean Emma is at the start of the movie. Also, finally Jane Austen's best love interest got the portrayal that he deserved. I'm glad you liked it too!
I've never been a big fan of Emma - either the book or the previous adaptations - but the 2020 version is EVERYTHING. And I loved how you can tell how much the filmmakers loved their own film - down to the smallest details, everything was chosen and put together in such a particular and quirky way. And dang, if it doesn't make my heart flutter to know it was adapted and directed by WOMEN writers and filmmakers. Finally, a female narrative told and given to us by our fellow SISTERS. 🙌🙌🙌
"And you see how uncomforperiod clothes were for men, too." Wowowow!!! I feel like Zack Pinsent will have a few thing to say to this. (He only wear recency clothes. Voluntarily. Because he likes them and thinks they're more comfortable)
Those starched collars! Ouch!!
Just watched the new one because I loved Queens Gambit. I barely remember the 96 film, but I remember Tony Colette. The cinematography and acting in the new one were great. It seemed to make the people more realistic than other period pieces I’ve seen. Loved your review will check out your channel.
My mother has always been a big fan of Jane Austen, and Emma was one of the first film adaptations I watched with her. I can't remember what version we watched, but I adored the story, the characters and even the tensions that started building. The scene with Emma and mr Elton in the carriage honestly terrified me. The one thing that took me out is when towards the end there was a flashback that showed mr Knightley holding Emma as a child, to which I thought "wHAT THE ACTUAL FRICK?!?".
So then the 2020 movie comes out, I see a few clips, and when I tell my mum there's a new Emma movie, we rent it and watch it together. I loved it! The scene with mr Elton still sends shivers down my spine, there was a disappointing lack of mrs Bates yet a still acceptable ammount of miss Bates, and the entire film took a more humorous approach at the adaptation. It's imperfect, but I adore it so very very much!
I just went to see the new adaptation last night and I'm obsessed! I'm not a purist when it comes to adaptations so I don't mind a bit of artistic license. I think it was really imaginative and so much fun.
the old one its displayed in a more serious way and the new one its definitely a comedy . i genuinely love the 2020 one because u rarely see old concepts being approached in such a modern an funny way ...without loosing depth .therefore u cant compare them , its more about preferences and what are people feeling more connected with :] if im being honest with you i would be so bored if someone would have come back with the same accurate interpretation of the history, i mean we all know how it was back in the days .this movie it was like a breath of fresh air. exquisite actually
im pausing half way in to say: you are phenomenal at explaining things I dont like to me. You really make me see it in another light even if I dont see it that way myself. It's a very cool thing, bravo
My absolute favorite version is the 2010 miniseries with Romola Garai. I always preferred it to the 1996 version. I’m nervous about the 2020 version.
So... 2020 did u like it? And why?
I snorted tea through my nose at *that* moment when you were talking about Frank Churchill. Thanks, I loved this video!
1996 Is still my favorite although 2020 is beautiful. The lines in 96 I just can't do without. I will watch both from time to time.
"when asked about Jane Fairfax, I simply reply she is elegant" was brought up a few times in The 96 version, among many others.
This woman does not seem to have read the book. She asks why they didn’t put in a scene where Emma is rescued from the river by Frank. Is this a joke or what?
Lizzy1ES yes I was confused about that too. It definitely doesn’t happen in the book.
@@jaimicottrill2831 Same, I read the book and watched the BBC series and was like... 'what the heck is she talking about'
I was almost ready to say: This is bull**! But you came through in the end by choosing Emma 2020. Which is, superior is all areas, for sure!
I love the old version. I agree with some of the points of yours, but I don't like how Emma was portrayed at all. I love the subtle acting of Gwyneth Paltrow...
I had trouble with 2020 with infusing the characters with too many 21st century traits. I do not think it will age well in the long run.
Saw it yesterday and I might just be a bit bowled over by this film. Great analysis - thanks for that, a shame you left out your thoughts on the music, as I think that contributed a lot to the 2020 version as well.
Harriet's Most Precious Treasures IS in the book! And they also include the scene in another great Emma adaptation, Clueless! My heart has to go to 1996 Emma here for a near-perfect adaptation.
I have always wondered why Mr. Knightly loved Emma. I know that even nice men often love selfish girls, but I like the way her change makes me happier for their marriage. I like the character arch. :)
One thing I really loved in the 2020 version was how much you saw Emma curate how other people saw her. She always knew exactly what lighting she looked best in and placed herself there and I LOVED it. Especially considering her relationship with Knightley. She would try to curate herself in front of him but she increasingly and increasingly fails until that *chefs kiss* nosebleed.
Leena: if you've never seen Emma spoilers dummy
Me: I am dummy
Will watch at a later date 😂
Have you seen the Webseires "Emma Approved"? It's by far my favourite adaptation of Emma! That and the 1996 TV movie adaptation.
Over the last year I have been introducing my 15 yr old daughter to the world of Jane Austin. I was not expecting to like the 2020 version as much as I did. It had a little more satyrical umph, which I liked. Next movie night we will watch the 1996 version. Off topic, but the Emma Thompson's Sense and Sensibility still holds up and is one of my favorites.
I do wish you'd set your camera up to have you in focus. This was my first visit to your channel and it did act as a distraction. That said; I really loved it, now subscribed and looking forward to more fun stuff!
“I will obtain some sort of disease or heartbreak from this man” so brilliant lmao
I am late to the conversation, as I have just seen the 2020 version of Emma. I had not seen either movie, or actually read the book. When I was at teacher-training college WAY back in the day, I had a lecturer that rather killed the book. She had a cold and spoke about "Ebba." I never warmed to the story at all. I found your comments very thoughtful and well expressed, Leena Norms. I know you tackled a couple of aspects of the film, but for me, what made the movie was the music and the set design and costuming. Personally, I didn't much care for Anya Taylor-Joy's performance, especially when she laughed or cried. Not sure whether it was intentional, but the acting made me cringe. I did thoroughly enjoy the dance scene with Emma and Mr. Knightley. It was beautifully done. The rest of the characters were highly enjoyable, especially Emma's Papa. As a matter of interest, I did view the Paltrow version, which I found a little insipid. I loved looking at the comments and many of them made me chuckle. Thanks for this video, it gave me lots to think about.
I actually really did like this new Emma. But my favourite is the one with Kate Beckinsale.
I haven't seen the 1996 film but now I want to. I wanted to love 2020 Emma but I couldn't quite properly get into it. I did enjoy it's take on the book but I agree with your criticisms. I think that not feeling the frank churchill romance and making knightly the really obvious choice from the start took away from it a lot.
Emma 2020 is a perfect film. There are zero things wrong with it.
I find your presentation style so engaging that I just watched this entire video and I haven't seen or read any Emma. At all.
Okay, but next time can we also talk about the 2005 mini-series version? I know that it isn't in the same category as the films, but I find it delightful! ^_^ Fantastic review and comparison though - this was very helpful for me being someone who is skeptical of seeing the 2020 film!
Ana Taylor Joy is BRILLIANT in EMMA. Nothing to compare with.
I am late to the game but I think one of the things I appreciated about the 2020 Emma is that the filmmakers seemed to know that the viewers had seen the other adaptions and gave us some new perspectives and focused on other characters, which is why there was so much less of Miss Bates, Frank Churchill, Jane Fairfax and other expected moments. For example, the secondary romance in the other movies always felt like Frank and Jane with Harriet getting the raw end of the deal. This time, I thought Martin and Harriet were adorable. They basically flipped the expected in a way that made it very exciting. Oh, and the friendship between Emma and Harriet is sincere at the end, where I think they become a bit estranged in the other versions (possibly the book, too?). It felt right that she is invested in her best friend. The Romola Garai version has a special place in my heart, but this movie UNDERSTANDS.
Harriets treassures from mr. Elton IS in the book. I think it is in a box, not at bag
Leena you remind me of Mrs. Bennett in your voice and jestering! I am currently watching the 2009
version of Emma.
I've never seen the 1996 version so many of the critiques you made I didn't see as I wasn't comparing it to anything. Like with Mrs Weston and Emma's friendship, it did seem very genuine and loving to me, I think because I wasn't comparing the portrayal of the friendship to another.
I love, love, LOVE the 2020 film though, I've seen it twice already and will probably go a third time before it is out of cinemas.
also I don't think that mr knightly and emma look the same age at all
I would have to say the Romola Garai BBC mini series is my favourite adaption but Ana Joy taylor is a treat.
Features Toni Colette: + 20 points. All other considerations put together: 0-10 points.
I agree with you on most of these points and just saw the 2020 film today. I thought Anya-Taylor Joy's Emma was exquisite and the heat between her and Johnny Flynn's Knightley was palpable. Sometimes I felt that the 2020 Emma was 2-dimensional (at first) but in time became more full and emotional. The little touches that made the characters seem human (close-ups, glimpses of flesh, the outdoor settings...wind!) really added to the film's overall emotional effect. Flynn's Knightly is far superior to the other version in that he is more human and much less slick than Jeremy Northam's version. I also loved the set design, art direction, and costumes, which all elevate it far above the '96 version and even the 2009 BBC version. Bill Nighy is the best Mr. Woodhouse hands-down,. but yes, we could have seen more of him.
2009 Emma, you should watch it
My gripe of the 2020 Emma is how little we saw of Frank Churchill and Jane Fairfax. Their characters weren't as fleshed out as the 1996 and all the other versions.
I saw the 90s version a year or two ago for the first time and enjoyed it a lot. But I just loved the 2020 version. Anya Taylor-Joy is a great actress - so good at being gentle and sympathetic when she needs to be, and harsh and aloof when she needs to be. I loved that the film allowed her to be genuinely mean and cold at times - so few movies in general allow that of women characters, and it's necessary in this story. I loved the direction and color scheme, too. Just lovely all around. I can't stop thinking about it.
If Emma is that mean, then why should Mr. Knightley fall in love with her? It's not comprehensible for the viewers. I know it's a problem of the original, not of the movie, because Jane Austen considered her mean, but still it makes everything inconsistent. The prior movies did a better job to not make Emma this mean.
I have no comment about the handmaid's tale connection, but seeing the schoolgirls marching around really cemented Harriet's status in life compared to Emma, and gave Mr Knightley's arguments a lot more credence when we could visually see how differently they moved in society.
Something I really appreciate about the 2020 version is how funny and witty and colourful and bright it is, as well as the amazing cinematography. I love the costume design too. It's blocked and shot beautifully, which I enjoy from the perspective of someone who literally is in uni for media production and is also just a movie enjoyer.
And I really enjoy the charcters. I enjoy how sweet some of them are and how cringe others are. Mr Elton is awful, but I find myself enjoying how bad he is lmao. Despite the fact that Emma is quite mean, I really do enjoy her all the way through.
Something else I really like is how when Emma is mean to Ms Bates and the camera lingers on her as what she said really sinks in, and both Emma and the audience is forced to sit in that for a little longer, whereas it would be natural to immediately cut to Bates' to see her immediate reaction. I like that it really stews on that for a bit bc it really is more about Emma and her realisation of her behaviour.
And the love confession scene is so good. It's so dramatic and funny, but also really sweet. Every time I watch it I go through so many different emotions bc of it lmao
Personally I felt like Frank and Emma seemed to be on quite similar levels when they intereacted. He had this ego and self-importance about him that I felt was similar with Emma's at the time, so I really didn't have the same problems w him that you do. She's been pained this amazing picture of him and she glasses right over his flaws, despite Knightley pointing them out. I get the sense that she really thinks they are equals (as equal as a man and a woman could get, at least) and they just seem to get along. It really contrasts w Knightley's kinder and more down to earth nature.
There's just a lot of things I love about it tbh
I actually really liked the 2020 version of Harriet - I got a better sense of her background as someone who was naïve not solely because of stupidity but more so because she was just really sheltered in an orphan school for girls. It makes sense that she'd not have a ton of social skills at that stage of just stepping out of school and trying to fit in with a society above her social class- I got a sense of authenticity because she was really behind on the ball on everything but was desperately trying to cover it up and learn as fast as she could. And yes, she was totally a pet for Emma, but I really liked seeing their friendship grow and evolve and become quite tender by the end - the narrative arc was more fulfilling to me, and I was wowed by the fact that Emma probably didn't like her as much in the beginning, but they grew to care deeply about each other by the end. Of course, that meant the first half of the film was quite uncomfortable to watch because of the overt manipulation going on, but feeling it ease out of that toxicity by the end was satisfying. That's my take - I really liked the 2020 Harriet:)
Loved this! Watched the new version of Emma last night and loved it! I've not seen the Gwenyth Paltrow version before but from other versions I've seen I did love the meaner version of Emma in the new version like you said. And younger Knightly I very much preferred.
Great comparison vid I enjoyed it a lot - if you turned this into a series you would smash it haha xx
Aw thank you! Yey glad you liked younger Knightly. Perhaps a series, very slowly; whenever film adaptations come out that I have VERY strong feelings about 😂
I’ll forever love the Romola Garai miniseries. But something I LOVE about this new version: most of Emma’s clothes are copies of/strongly inspired by existing clothes from the period! And her gemstone cross necklace is a copy of one of one of the few pieces of jewelry we know that Jane Austen owned.
I think you necessarily HAVE to have a meaner Emma for the screen. SO much of Emma's character development is entirely in her own head in the book. She doesn't outwardly change as much. So if you're going to show that drastic change in a visual medium, you need to show her prejudices in a more obvious way that doesn't need to be explained to us.
Those red cloaks, also called cardinals, were a fashion staple of British country women in the 18th and 19th centuries.
2020 Emma is okay--feels like a gourmet cupcake--pretty, but no substance. 1996 has horrific accents--just unwatchable for me. 2009 comes out on top for me - they actually show you why Knightley loves her. You get to really see the growth arc in Emma. In 2020 it's like "oh, I screwed up, I'm sad...all good now". The downside was the manners were very lax in 2009. I know they were trying for a modern audience, but I think they went too far. The main point of Emma is her growing and learning from all her mistakes. And 2020 made that arc very quick and neat...it wasn't that way in the book.
nope I'm sorry the 1996 version will always have a special place in my heart. especially the proposal scene, which is so much more beautiful.
I thought the 2020 version nailed the Harriet/Emma relationship. It showed Harriet as having a brain - "You think of Mr. Knightley for yourself" (BURN!) and "I refused Mr. Martin for you" (OUCH!) and Emma developing a conscience. She even took it upon herself to apologize to Robert Martin herself. By the time Harriet and Robert Martin did have their kissing scene, it felt like it was richly deserved.
Just sharing some thoughts here: you mentioned the Handmaid's Tale due to the red costumes of the orphanage girls... but the handmaid costume was inspired by nuns, so maybe the orphans' costumes were meant to reflect nuns, not the Handmaid's Tale? Personally, I got more of a little red riding hood vibe from it, perhaps symbolizing innocence and naivety, although I can see why viewers would make the connection to Handmaid's Tale considering the popularity of the book and show. :)
What did you think of the ITV mini series with Romola as Emma? That was the first version I saw and I would love to see your take on this, perhaps a part 2 or companion video to this one?
I have seen both, and like you the 1994 version will always hold a special place in my heart, but I was very pleasantly surprised by how much I enjoyed the new version!
I agree with you whole heartily….Super love 2020 version
The Miss Bates from 1996 can’t be beat. I also love Toni Collette from 1996.
I love Paltrow's sensitivity/ reactivity but also bitchy. Maybe could have been more so. But she seemed a bit more alive. But the man was worse. And in 2020, I feel the opposite. She seemed too wooden, not just bitchy. Otherwise, I agree overall with your points.
I would like to see your thoughts on the Mark Strong/Kate Beckinsale version. That was my first Emma! But I admit to loving them all and even preferring the 2020 version.
The 2020 version of Emma's snobishness via those who are her inferior is far more realistic than the 1996 Americanized version of the story. There is no class system in America. Class separation - I"m rich, your not therefore I deserve to be treated special - still rule Europe to this day. It was fitting that Emma Woodhouse would make sure that everyone around her knew their place. Because that is what is expected of her. Plus... did we really need to see both protagonists buns? Emma lifting her skirt to warm up her derriere in front of the fire place!! I think Jane Austen twisted in her tomb... LOL
I feel the '96 version did not capture how superior Jane Fairfax was musically, while the 2020 version NAILED IT!
I blame Anyas Eye for having exquisite look that says "Fuck you Iam better."
2020 version...definitely a quirky, Wes Anderson vibe. Loved it! I’d love Autumn de Wilde to remake P&P. I can’t get the 2005 version out of my head. Horrid
There's one little detail which adds to the hot sexiness of the dance scene: Emma and Knightly were the only ones who didn't wear gloves. The level of intimacy off the charts in the Regency times. Spicy hot 🌶️🌶️🌶️🔥🔥🔥🥵🥵🥵
I just listened to the book and even though I have way more recently seen the 2020 film I still saw Toni Collette in my mind. She will never be beat.
The Nosebleed is the Blue-Danube-spaceship-ballet moment of the cinematic decade: a happy accident to astound even Bob Ross himself. As a movie, as entertainment for today, the new version is absolutely better. As a rendering of Austen's novel, the older one may be better, but in that direction lies the BBC version which is much superior, though it cheats by being four parts.
My favorite comic character in the novel is the brother, John Knightley, but being nonessential to the plot, he's mostly overlooked in both movies.
I so agree about the casting!! Hated Mr Church!! And I find it so funny that a lot of people say that Mr Knightley is too young. He is the right age. But maybe people "feels" younger nowadays than in the regency era 🙂
The 1996 is my favourite, but I must say the 2020 one is also very good, although Emma is a bit meaner.....
I fucking loved this movie! Having no knowledge of anything about the story, I think I got it perfectly, so they did a good job portraying the story. I loved the costume, loved the cast, I loved everything about it
I saw Emma 2020 first and then read the book. I didn't have any preconceived notions. I feel that the new portrayal of Emma is closer to the books. The book says in several places that Emma was spoiled as a child. She was told that she is pretty, clever and rich (meaning upper class.) She has no reason to doubt that she knows best or that she is entitled to dictate to others. In Emma 2020 we have the grown-up, over-confident woman produced by that upbringing.
Also, Mrs. Elton 2020 wins hands down because of that hair and long neck. She looks a little like a pompous giraffe.
1996 is going for a naturalistic, sentimental aesthetic; the 2020 version is hyper-stylized and clearly has a massive debt to Wes Anderson, which I personally find more interesting, but it's obviously not for everything.
I’m about to go watch the new one so I may drop another comment later tonight. Right now, just from watching the trailers and the scenes from this new one, I don’t think I’m going to like it as much as the 1996 version (I’m just so attached to that one and love the way the characters are portrayed, and yes I’ve read the book and seen the 2010 miniseries). I have to disagree about Jeremy Northman’s Mr. Knightly being only two-dimensional. I think that in the 1996 version you are seeing the world through Emma’s eyes, and Mr. Knightly is seen as this kind of older brother who is always criticizing her and who seems “perfect”, but at the end you glimpse into his vulnerabilities and jealousies when Emma does.
Romola Garai - BBC 2009 will always be my favourite.
100% agree about Johnny Flynn. Like you I'm not one to get swoony about public figures, so the friends I saw it with were a bit taken aback by my utter adoration of him that I've kept hidden 'til now.
I haven't actually seen the '96 movie, but I always go back to the BBC series. Jonny Lee Miller's 'Badly done, Emma' is one of my favourite things ever. And Tamsin Greig is a wonderful Miss Bates.
The BBC version is the best but this one was charming and put a quirky spin on it. The one part I thought was strange was the bloody nose scene...
Tbh I never liked the 1996 version, I always though the 80s BBC version did the best adaptation of the characters. But I'm excited to see the new one! Emma is my absolute favorite. I feel like she's the most relatable Austen heroine.
"MOTHER! YOU MUST. SAMPLE. THE TART!"
Aria Antoinette ritcherson omg such an iconic line!!!
Lol I died when I saw that part! Loved Miranda Hart
😂 This is reason enough for me to check it out. I'm convinced now.
Literally laughed out loud at this comment 💕
There are some points in the 2020 movie where I feel like Emma is actually a kinder, more likable person than she is in previous versions. For example, after she insults Miss Bates at the picnic, Emma immediately regrets what she says and there are tears in her eyes before she even sees the others' reactions. She feels bad because she has injured Miss Bates. In other versions it appears that Emma regrets what she said more because of the disapproval it brings from Mr. Knightley than her own conscience.
That’s what I really loved about the 2020 movie it showed a good side of her
I haven’t read the book but I don’t think she was kind or at least reasonable am I right?
True, she's meaner in the book--but I respect and _like_ her move in the 2020 version because of what you're pointing out in this scene. Likewise how in 2020 she cares more about Harriet's feelings at the end, and takes responsibility for resolving the situation with Robert Martin.
idk. i kind of felt in the movie that she was upset because of what mr knightley had said. it's like she knew what she said was wrong but the thing that really comes down hard on her is when mr knightley berates her, making her seep slightly self centred. but that's just imo :)
@@shahadshd5165 I don't think that book Emma is mean or unreasonable, she is kind and very loving but she is a beautiful girl from a rich family, protected, spoiled with love and not one care in the world. She is most of all smart and witty and very much bored. Frank Churchill reads this very quickly and he plays with Emma's good nature and dislike/ jealousy for Jane , he is the devious one that never gets to be punished for his irresponsible behavior towards Emma or Jane and even towards his father. She is very rude to Miss Bates and she knows she did wrong because that is not who she is, not really. The way Frank constantly plays his mind game by provoking her using her deep dislike for Mrs. Elton, her young impatience towards Miss Bates and her jealousy for Jane brings out her immature,spoiled girl side to the surface, that is what makes her be rude. Knightly's reaction only reinforces what she already knew for herself and that is why it hurt even more and that is why she never really fell inlove with Frank, she knew in her heart that he wasn't exactly what he appeared to be.
zauza marisa I agree with your assessment of Emma. I think that both movie versions showed Emma in this light.
2020 Emma gets an extra 100 points for accuracy in the hairstyles, which is so incredibly rare that it must be praised!
I get those weird ringlet things aren’t aesthetically pleasing to a modern audience, but I want historical fashion and style accuracy in my period dramas, dammit!
The BBC P&P in the 90s also did the ringlets, but I can’t think of any other regency drama that does them.
Agreed, but that's also why i don't understand why they went into these stringy tiny curls instead of the accurate thick and tightly coiled style that we saw in BBCP&P. Can't have everything i guess¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I also loved how the state of her hair expressed the stability of her image of herself!!
Neartmhor I ended up being totally in love with the tiny ringlets!!
The Emma adaptation in 2007 with Romola Garai was great but it bothered me how they gave Emma such simple, basic hair and Harriet had the ringlets. They were trying to make Harriet look “silly” but it just made her look like she had a lady’s maid and Emma didn’t!
@@seventhsheaven OMG YES!!
I kind of liked that Harriet knew right away that Emma was in love with Mr. Knightley, because it works so well as a foil for Emma in that moment. Emma thinks she's so much smarter and more perceptive than everyone else around her (which is why she's so into matchmaking at the beginning), but almost everything she perceives is wrong. She thinks Mr. Elton is in love with Harriet. She thinks she's in love with Frank Churchill. She thinks Mr. Knightley is maybe in love with Jane Fairfax. She then thinks Harriet is in love with Frank Churchill and Jane Fairfax is in love with Mr. Dixon.
But Harriet, though wrong in thinking that Mr. Knightley is in love with her, is able to perceive Emma in a way that Emma herself was not able to, which breaks down Emma's assumption of her own superiority. Plus, this allows the tension to continue in a different way, because Harriet has just shown herself to be more perceptive than Emma, so Emma is more likely to believe Harriet is right about Mr. Knightley, too. (Plus it makes Harriet look less like a complete idiot than she did in the 2009 miniseries).
@Karen Bartlett I liked this too, and I love that Harriet gets a chance to not be utterly dense. I like it when adaptations give characters that were idiots in the books a chance to shine and be a little bit more aware than before, and I felt the 2020 Harriet was naive rather than stupid, which I think is how Harriet was intended to be anyway.
It also gives more power to Harriet's decision to accept Mr. Martin. It helps Harriet learn to trust her own intuition, which she so severely doubted at the beginning. When she marches in and announces her betrothal, instead of asking for advice, its kind of a fist bump moment.
In Harriet Emma succeeds in her own fantasy of vanity, she makes Harriet into herself.
@@emmajones5875 exactly, let's not forget Harriet is 17 years old, naive, a bit dizzy, not stupid but certainly not Emma's intellectual equal. Perfect Harriet for me.
Yeah it just felt like they emphasized the arc of both characters more effectively. Mia's Harriet didn't seem dumb to me even early on, just intimidated and out of her depth a bit. She's obviously clever, popular and well liked at her school and by the Martin's. She has some wits, and she really seems to come into her own entirely in this one, finds her place in the world, and has far more confidence and wisdom. And then you see her figure Emma out thoroughly before Emma fully understands herself. You can also imagine her and Mr. Martin being ridiculously happy together for 50 years.
Anya took Emma on a pretty substantial arc too. From arrogant and mistaken, though ultimately good hearted, to really seeing herself the fool and coming pretty unglued through one of the better displays of 4-5 crying scenes in a row ever from Anya, and ultimately being a much better person for it. Really thought it was pretty poignant compared to other versions , and for the time that she'd walk up to the Martin's with her patented goose basket. I found this one benefited a lot from a few re-watches.
Her not even mentioning Jane Fairfax in the casting segment is the most Emma thing I can imagine.
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I still want to know who she liked better as Jane and why lol
The scene with the nosebleed should go down as one of the most brilliant cinematic choices ever. I was not expecting it, yet it made so much sense. So brilliant.
it was an accident. the actress get them frequently. BUT A WONDERFUL ACCIDENT NONETHELESS
@@darthslayder6904 someone else said it was scripted, BUT Anna Taylor-Joy's nose actually started bleeding, so they ended up using her real blood instead of the fake blood they'd planned.
It was great because it showed how truly the character changed as a person. The ultimate in unpredictability in her usual controlled life.
How did it make sense? It's not in the book, and it's not consistent with anything else in this movie.
@@stoverboo You're right, it isn't in the book, but I would argue it works dramatically by deferring the romantic tension til the later scenes, making the emphasis more clearly on resolving Harriet before they can share greater intimacy so that the last scenes don't collapse, there are still some surprises. And yes, the Harriet rescue isn't in the book so obviously either, although I would argue it is suggested that Emma and Mr Knightley do sort Harriet subtly near the end, it is just made more obvious for the shorter film running time. It also makes Mr Knightley's suggestion that he move to Hartfield the emotional turning point scene after which they feel ready to kiss, and even in the book this probably is his noblest gesture, a genuine plot twist once we know marriage is happening, (although I think the film undermined this by showing Mr Woodhouse as compos mentis and not elderly). The Paltrow film solves this by just slicing the two scenes together, but that actually minimises his sacrifice by making it a spur of the moment thing rather than a genuine plan.
The nose bleed plays with the dramatic convention of *the proposal scene*, making it messier, more of a negotiation. And the messiness is in the book; Mr Knightley doesn't intend to propose, Emma thinks he's in love with Harriet, they both confuse each other.
So the red cloaks, where actually the closest to a "Nations Dress" that england had at that time, and red cloaks where HUGELY popular and both the less fortunate and the rich would have owned one. The handmaiden reference is just accidental.
I actually thought of that little French orphan girl and the girls all in a row behind the nun. Madeline!
I think Autumn talks about it in an interview that it was inspired by period accurate clothing but she was aware of the parallel and didn’t back away from it.
Both Lydia and Kitty in BBC's Pride and Prejudice had red cloaks!
lmao my favourite youtube trend is when we all watch the same viral videos then you see people spouting off facts, word for word, from those videos under the comment sections of other related videos, but presenting it like they're delivering rare expert knowledge
I didn't think it was an on-purpose thing when I saw it, but The Handmaid's Tale is what I thought of when I saw those bits.
The discussion around Johnny Flynn's age is frankly perplexing to me.
Gwyneth was 24 and Jeremy 35 in 1996. Anya is 23 and Johnny 36 (37 as of two days ago, March 14th - making him the same age as George Knightley, and providing the same age disparity between both sets of actors).
I think people who viewed the 1996 Emma earlier had the privilege of being younger and seeing Jeremy as older in their view than he actually was. As someone who is a fresh-faced thirty-five-year-old and often mistaken for being ten years younger than I am... I must say it's a bit offensive that people assume if you're 35 or older you must look haggard lol. I never got the impression he was supposed to be shockingly aged - just that he was more mature, which Johnny accomplishes every bit as much as Jeremy.
I think the real age gap between the actors shows why such a large gap isn't necessarily strange or shocking (especially at the time). 16 and 30 would be weird, but 21 going on 22 is an adult and the difference really becomes less severe as the years go on. And 35 is still young!
I think people don't realize the real life age gap. Johnny looks great at 36 so people assume he's younger
@@adorabell4253 The real problem with Knightley is his role in Emma's childhood. It creates accusations of grooming. In scolding her he was making her the perfect wife. Its an interpretation I have sympathy for even if I don't particularly like it.
@@04nbod It's definitely an awkward thing to explain to someone who hasn't read the book. It's hard to level accusations of grooming at someone who didn't even see Emma as a romantic prospect until she was well within adult age.
@@adorabell4253 'I have no doubt. Nature gave you understanding:-- Miss Taylor gave you principles. You must have done well. My interference was quite as likely to do harm as good. It was very natural for you to say, what right has he to lecture me?-- and I am afraid very natural for you to feel that it was done in a disagreeable manner. I do not believe I did you any good. The good was all to myself, by making you an object of the tenderest affection to me. I could not think about you so much without doating on you, faults and all; and by dint of fancying so many errors, have been in love with you ever since you were thirteen at least."'