If it moves, people will bet on it. Balls, dogs, horses, raindrops falling down a window. Saying that, if I was a bookie in Helsinki and somebody with a Brazilian bank account just dropped 5000 Euros on a match, alarm bells would start ringing.
We actually have a government owned betting company, who doesn't carry the games from below the fourth tier. The big bets were played in Asian markets and some sites that take cryptos.
It isn't the fact you can bet on the Finnish 4th division that is bizarre, it is the fact that bookmakers will take bets of sufficient magnitude that it is worth fixing the matches to make serious money.
I suppose they think that since it's a lower league there will be less scrutiny and thus the bets and the match fixing might go under the radar. Clearly doesn't work though
Just realised how many games of this type there have been. Plague Inc is obviously the most famous one, then there is the Pandemic 2 flash game that you mentioned (I remembered vaguely there being one!) and then apparently there is also a series of cooperative board games called Pandemic that also had a Steam release. Interesting that there have been so many
@@Fistrikedepends on where you started too. If you started in Saudi Arabia as is recommended you get a bit of heat resistance to start with due to your disease being acclimatised there as well as be able to send ships directly to Madagascar so you may find Greenland tougher. New Zealand and Iceland also worth a shot as while they have both an airport and a port they also 9-10 Flasks so they will actually invest a lot more into the cure, still not as bad as Greenland/Madagascar though
Finland will be on the map permanently when our (The Young Patricians) football reform and developmental plans for Finnish football come to light. I know Swedish football doesn't really have to do with Finnish football but we are making an audacious bid to get Pep Guardiola for Swedish national team manager. And hope to help Ari Lahti get someone like Pochettino, Simeone or Ten Hag to be the Finnish manager. Also the man (Alexander Julius Dahlmeier) who I work for is looking to buy TPS, HIFK, Djurgården, AC Milan, Deportivo de la Coruna, Valencia and HSV. This is part of a wider football reform scheme. We are looking to do some sort of cooperation deal with HIFK and Djurgården together with AC Milan and just for the hell of it ask Inter Milan to do a similar deal with TPS and AIK. in order to strengthen the diplomatic ties between Italy, Finland and Sweden and facilitate some football development plans that we have for Scandinavia, Finland and the Baltics. This is not a joke although I have been ridiculed extensively during these past five months. I have sent loads of emails regarding some of these matters and more to Hufvudstadsbladet. I am also working together on some Ukraine peace deal stuff together with my cousin (Swede of partial Finnish and Russian descent) from his apartment.
On top of this Germany has another big problem: Sports betting in amateur football. It's supposed to be illegal, but restrictions are being circumvented by offering everything from abroad and there are people on location observing the matches just for exactly that. And betting companies are not very willing to do anything about it.
@ Can‘t say I‘d blame you. And it’s ironic how in Germany teams were pushing the federal government to drop the monopoly held by Oddset, only for now even the Premier League in England trying to clamp down on betting sponsors. Then again, Betano sponsoring Euro 2024 as official UEFA partner ain‘t helping either.
@@sehu1291 Regulation doesn't mean everything is OK. Remember: sports betting in amateur divisions is illegal in Germany, yet bookies and their companies circumvent that regulation by offering such bets abroad, and that makes amateur football even more prone to being rigged.
Finnish 1st division is not even fully professional. There is no way any player is getting paid anything in the 4th division. Its basically a league for hobbyists. It is more likely that people pay to play than are paid to play.
This is not true-there are teams like Peimari United or Atlantis that have foreign players they pay. I’ve played in the lower leagues in Finland (Kakkonen, Kolmonen), and I have many foreign player friends who got paid. One of my closest friends was paid €650 a month, along with a free apartment and food. Okay, it’s not big money, but it’s enough for that level of football, especially considering how much money clubs are making at that level in Finland. I’m not saying that this scandal is something Finnish football should turn a blind eye to-no! It’s a big scandal and should not happen to anyone coming to play in Finland. But because Finnish football is at a decent level and pays foreign players from third-world countries relatively good money, it attracts people like these from Brazil who make false promises to players. This is something the Finnish FA (Palloliitto) needs to address. They should create new rules on how foreign players are brought in and how their contracts are made, so situations like this never happen again.
As a Finnish football fan, this is sad to hear! In Finland, when we get players from Brazil or foreign players, we are always excited that they bring flair and talent to the pitch. I played in the Finnish 3rd division (Kakkonen) and 4th division (Kolmonen) myself, in teams with foreign players, and I never heard of anything like this happening-thankfully! I hope the Palloliitto (the Finnish FA) and the police can help these people get some compensation for being paid so little. I don’t think it needs to be a huge amount, maybe 5-6k, just to help them get their money back and some starter money for their return to Brazil.
And to add to this video, Finland has one of the lowest corruption rates in the world, but still, things like this happen in Finnish football-it’s crazy. I think I know why this happens in the Finnish leagues: you really need foreign players if you want that extra talent on the field to achieve promotion, but the league’s prize money and sponsor money aren’t that good. That’s why situations like this can occur. This is a problem for all the teams in Finland and the FA to resolve so that we can have a league without match-fixing and scandals like this. Now, nobody from other countries will take Finnish football seriously anymore!
If you think the Finnish 3rd or 4th division is a poor level, I can tell you that in Finnish lower leagues, it’s common to have paid professional foreign players. The level in these leagues is not like Sunday league football-there are really good players competing in these divisions. That’s also why it attracts gamblers and match-fixing.
Regarding the human trafficking part but in a much less illegal but still scummy way, there's a club in Germanies lower leagues (FCA 04 Darmstadt) which lures mostly Brasilian and Mexican players from their respective second,third and fourth tiers to Germany to make them play basically for free under the premise they would be playing for Darmstadt 98 in the Bundesliga 2. Their relatively wealthy owner would contact them, send them fake videos from Darmstadt 98 and tells them they get the chance to play pro football if they come to Germany on their own costs. Some of the players even were regulars in the second tier of Mexico and had market values around 500k. Now they'll be playing in what is basically sunday league football in the 6th to 7th tier of Germany for no money and no perspective. They basically have to pay to play for an amateur side under the false premise that they'll be joining a pro-club from the second tier soon. Very compareable to the situation in Finland but without any payment whatsoever, not even "rigged-game-money".
Sadly from time to time this happens here in Finland. Not common but not ultra rare occurrence either. Once I remember it affecting our main league as well though that was in early 2010s if I remember right
Apparently this Decio dude was also the manager during an investigated game between XV of Jaú and Batatais, where Batatais gave away 11 corners in the first half. There is a Globo article from 2022 on that game with video including these 11 corners, I can tell you, they didn' try to hide it lmao. Weirdly though, the article mentions that after that game 7 players and the manager (Decio) were fired and later these 7 players were investigated but Decio wasn't. Anyway, if anyone is interested in the conclusion of the investigation; they weren't found guilty because it's hard to prove a defender kicked out a ball on purpose or because of a technical error.
This is what the plague of sports betting does. "Oh we have to have betting lines on every league imaginable so more people will spend money." Z is absolutely right, the only people who would realistically be placing money on the 4th division of any sport in any country would be people most likely to try to fix matches. Betting should only be reserved for the top division.
betting should be gone. it's just stupid. how do ppl think these companies make money? they pay insane on adds, they give you money when you sign in etc.
I think you underestimate how gamblers can easily sit there gambling on the most weird stuff like the Finnish 4th division. I don’t like betting companies but I still think people should be allowed to bet personally with others IRL. Or if there should be betting and other gambling sites and stores that it should be state owned, no ads and profits should go directly back to help the states people (In an idealistic society). This way I’d hope that without constant brain rot advertisement for betting, and more money going to prevention a good middle ground can be found where the many casual enjoyers can still bet without ruining their or others lives.
There were also Ilves kissat that had Ukrainians used same way. Police is investigating at least 4 teams in Finnish 4th tier called Kakkonen that is regional league and in 5th tier Kolmonen.
It’s easier to fix matches in lower amateur leagues since not as many are interested in it and thus there isn’t the same scrutiny around it. It is a major problem in Sweden as well, with Chinese betting platforms being used by organised crime to launder money.
Infecting Madagascar was kinda easy zealand. Make the virus carried by mosquitoes and job is done Greenland was the pain in my a*s in that game. Similar situation to Madagascar but cold af
Another case of South American player's aspirations being exploited is SVA Darmstadt 04, a club that pretends to be professional or at least have professional structures, to lure South American players into German lower league football. This season, they even signed a player from the second Mexican division! They have also been know for recording videos at Darmstadt 98's ground and training facilities, pretending those are theirs.
Another one I remember tipping you off on ages ago, although it looks like you came to it on your own (nobody checks Twitter messages, I don’t blame you at all). Crazy shit.
The only people betting on Finnish 4th division are problem gamblers and match fixers, there's literally no good reason to allow betting on amateur leagues.
I don't get your comments about not understanding how there's a betting market for the Finnish fourth division. If people support teams and follow that division, of course there'll be people wanting to bet on it. Just like how the English non-leagues have betting markets...
And the less the players earn from football, the easier it is to hook them up on a match fixing scheme. Especially if they were brought in by human traffickers. Also less media coverage. People can be very ignorant about lower leagues and what goes on there.
Also considering the finnish fourth div. is somewhat professional in the regard that players from abroad get payed. I mean you can actually bet on the brazilian third tier of women basketball or the albanian water polo league on some sites, thats way more dubious imo. Someone else already said it perfectly: if it moves, you can bet on it
Just want to correct a tiny thing: Globo os brazilian, not portuguese! Unless you were talking about the Portuguese language then, nevermind me, I'm dumb
Z people that gambke for the fun of gambling don't take on fixed games, there is no fun in that. The people that bet on fixed games WANT the money. They want to turn 1000 to a million so they pay for info on fixed matches. Also there are so many betting sites all over the world with people legitimately making obscure bets like people here in Nigeria betting on the Scottish 3rd league
I am too dumb to be a criminal. I don’t even get how you are making money off of rigging such fringe matches. I don’t know about Finland but where I live betting on amateur sports is illegal and whenever a story breaks about a guy in the stands being caught transmitting data to illegal betting sites I am wondering who is betting there besides the criminals. Because gambling doesn’t create money out of thin air, you need people placing normal bets, who you can then cheat out of their potential win don’t you?
Lower league football can seem obscure but the fact is that hundreds of thousands of people are involved in it in every country. And a customer looking for great odds probably doesn't care what match it is. Also remember that many footballers are gamblers themselves. In professional leagues they cannot bet on their own league so perhaps they bet on lower divisions instead or even other sports.
Wrong, I was thinking about watching this video before he even published it. The fact that youtube isn't advanced enough to count that as a view is not Z's fault.
The Finnish Fourth Division is finished.
Finnished
He's no finished; he's only 28!
If it moves, people will bet on it. Balls, dogs, horses, raindrops falling down a window. Saying that, if I was a bookie in Helsinki and somebody with a Brazilian bank account just dropped 5000 Euros on a match, alarm bells would start ringing.
I bet on the 30598 Raindrop to splash at exactly 11:56:23 pm😅
We actually have a government owned betting company, who doesn't carry the games from below the fourth tier. The big bets were played in Asian markets and some sites that take cryptos.
It isn't the fact you can bet on the Finnish 4th division that is bizarre, it is the fact that bookmakers will take bets of sufficient magnitude that it is worth fixing the matches to make serious money.
Because Finnish leagues are played in summer and other sports/leagues are not really.
Mostly asian bookies
I suppose they think that since it's a lower league there will be less scrutiny and thus the bets and the match fixing might go under the radar.
Clearly doesn't work though
This is the tipest of iceberg tips
The virus game is "plague inc" btw
That’s the spiritual sequel. The original game was called Pandemic II
Just realised how many games of this type there have been. Plague Inc is obviously the most famous one, then there is the Pandemic 2 flash game that you mentioned (I remembered vaguely there being one!) and then apparently there is also a series of cooperative board games called Pandemic that also had a Steam release. Interesting that there have been so many
2:30 wasn’t it Greenland that was notorious for not being able to be affected?
Yea cos you had to max cold resistance and transmission by water because they only had a port
It was both. If you spent points on heat resistance first greenland was harder, if you spent them on cold resistance it was Madagascar
@@Fistrikedepends on where you started too. If you started in Saudi Arabia as is recommended you get a bit of heat resistance to start with due to your disease being acclimatised there as well as be able to send ships directly to Madagascar so you may find Greenland tougher. New Zealand and Iceland also worth a shot as while they have both an airport and a port they also 9-10 Flasks so they will actually invest a lot more into the cure, still not as bad as Greenland/Madagascar though
Finally putting us Finns on the map in football. I remember reading about this in a local newspaper in the summer. Torilla tavataan :D
Finland will be on the map permanently when our (The Young Patricians) football reform and developmental plans for Finnish football come to light. I know Swedish football doesn't really have to do with Finnish football but we are making an audacious bid to get Pep Guardiola for Swedish national team manager. And hope to help Ari Lahti get someone like Pochettino, Simeone or Ten Hag to be the Finnish manager.
Also the man (Alexander Julius Dahlmeier) who I work for is looking to buy TPS, HIFK, Djurgården, AC Milan, Deportivo de la Coruna, Valencia and HSV. This is part of a wider football reform scheme. We are looking to do some sort of cooperation deal with HIFK and Djurgården together with AC Milan and just for the hell of it ask Inter Milan to do a similar deal with TPS and AIK. in order to strengthen the diplomatic ties between Italy, Finland and Sweden and facilitate some football development plans that we have for Scandinavia, Finland and the Baltics.
This is not a joke although I have been ridiculed extensively during these past five months. I have sent loads of emails regarding some of these matters and more to Hufvudstadsbladet. I am also working together on some Ukraine peace deal stuff together with my cousin (Swede of partial Finnish and Russian descent) from his apartment.
You’d figure there’d be something about FC Santa Claus given the season. Alas.
The absence of running situation is crazy.
WORSE THAN THE ABSENCE OF MAN CITY FANS HEYOOOOOOO
On top of this Germany has another big problem: Sports betting in amateur football. It's supposed to be illegal, but restrictions are being circumvented by offering everything from abroad and there are people on location observing the matches just for exactly that. And betting companies are not very willing to do anything about it.
I hate how, every Club has a betting Sponsor, every Bundesliga ad is full of betting Sites. Really frustrating.
@ Can‘t say I‘d blame you. And it’s ironic how in Germany teams were pushing the federal government to drop the monopoly held by Oddset, only for now even the Premier League in England trying to clamp down on betting sponsors. Then again, Betano sponsoring Euro 2024 as official UEFA partner ain‘t helping either.
But germany regulated gambling. Before it was a wild West grey area
@@sehu1291 Regulation doesn't mean everything is OK. Remember: sports betting in amateur divisions is illegal in Germany, yet bookies and their companies circumvent that regulation by offering such bets abroad, and that makes amateur football even more prone to being rigged.
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Finnish 1st division is not even fully professional. There is no way any player is getting paid anything in the 4th division. Its basically a league for hobbyists. It is more likely that people pay to play than are paid to play.
My dad used to play in the fourth division. Can confirm there is absolutely no money and its basically sunday league.
This is not true-there are teams like Peimari United or Atlantis that have foreign players they pay. I’ve played in the lower leagues in Finland (Kakkonen, Kolmonen), and I have many foreign player friends who got paid. One of my closest friends was paid €650 a month, along with a free apartment and food. Okay, it’s not big money, but it’s enough for that level of football, especially considering how much money clubs are making at that level in Finland.
I’m not saying that this scandal is something Finnish football should turn a blind eye to-no! It’s a big scandal and should not happen to anyone coming to play in Finland. But because Finnish football is at a decent level and pays foreign players from third-world countries relatively good money, it attracts people like these from Brazil who make false promises to players.
This is something the Finnish FA (Palloliitto) needs to address. They should create new rules on how foreign players are brought in and how their contracts are made, so situations like this never happen again.
Certainly not the way I expected or wanted Finland to appear on Zealandism
As a Finnish football fan, this is sad to hear! In Finland, when we get players from Brazil or foreign players, we are always excited that they bring flair and talent to the pitch. I played in the Finnish 3rd division (Kakkonen) and 4th division (Kolmonen) myself, in teams with foreign players, and I never heard of anything like this happening-thankfully! I hope the Palloliitto (the Finnish FA) and the police can help these people get some compensation for being paid so little. I don’t think it needs to be a huge amount, maybe 5-6k, just to help them get their money back and some starter money for their return to Brazil.
And to add to this video, Finland has one of the lowest corruption rates in the world, but still, things like this happen in Finnish football-it’s crazy. I think I know why this happens in the Finnish leagues: you really need foreign players if you want that extra talent on the field to achieve promotion, but the league’s prize money and sponsor money aren’t that good. That’s why situations like this can occur. This is a problem for all the teams in Finland and the FA to resolve so that we can have a league without match-fixing and scandals like this. Now, nobody from other countries will take Finnish football seriously anymore!
If you think the Finnish 3rd or 4th division is a poor level, I can tell you that in Finnish lower leagues, it’s common to have paid professional foreign players. The level in these leagues is not like Sunday league football-there are really good players competing in these divisions. That’s also why it attracts gamblers and match-fixing.
Thank you for the additional context!
Kakkonen would now be 4th level since ykkösliiga was added.
Zealandism casually dropping the golden rule of gambling: If you put money on the table, assume it's already gone.
Addicting games is an insane flashback
Regarding the human trafficking part but in a much less illegal but still scummy way, there's a club in Germanies lower leagues (FCA 04 Darmstadt) which lures mostly Brasilian and Mexican players from their respective second,third and fourth tiers to Germany to make them play basically for free under the premise they would be playing for Darmstadt 98 in the Bundesliga 2. Their relatively wealthy owner would contact them, send them fake videos from Darmstadt 98 and tells them they get the chance to play pro football if they come to Germany on their own costs. Some of the players even were regulars in the second tier of Mexico and had market values around 500k. Now they'll be playing in what is basically sunday league football in the 6th to 7th tier of Germany for no money and no perspective. They basically have to pay to play for an amateur side under the false premise that they'll be joining a pro-club from the second tier soon. Very compareable to the situation in Finland but without any payment whatsoever, not even "rigged-game-money".
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Pra variar passando vergonha 😂 cada uma viu
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0:08 - Globo is a Brazilian website. Brazilians speak Portuguese but they have their own country. Portugal is in Europe. Brazil is in South America.
Zealand, now that you are back at your homebase and you arent fleeing the authorities.....
WHY arent you running???
Damn i play in this division, we played Wilpas just last season. I must've completely missed the news cause this is news to me!
To be fair Z, you invented hairline trafficking years ago cos those follicles keep disappearing and no-one's ever found them...
Sadly from time to time this happens here in Finland. Not common but not ultra rare occurrence either. Once I remember it affecting our main league as well though that was in early 2010s if I remember right
Apparently this Decio dude was also the manager during an investigated game between XV of Jaú and Batatais, where Batatais gave away 11 corners in the first half. There is a Globo article from 2022 on that game with video including these 11 corners, I can tell you, they didn' try to hide it lmao. Weirdly though, the article mentions that after that game 7 players and the manager (Decio) were fired and later these 7 players were investigated but Decio wasn't. Anyway, if anyone is interested in the conclusion of the investigation; they weren't found guilty because it's hard to prove a defender kicked out a ball on purpose or because of a technical error.
This is what the plague of sports betting does. "Oh we have to have betting lines on every league imaginable so more people will spend money." Z is absolutely right, the only people who would realistically be placing money on the 4th division of any sport in any country would be people most likely to try to fix matches.
Betting should only be reserved for the top division.
betting should be gone. it's just stupid. how do ppl think these companies make money? they pay insane on adds, they give you money when you sign in etc.
I think you underestimate how gamblers can easily sit there gambling on the most weird stuff like the Finnish 4th division.
I don’t like betting companies but I still think people should be allowed to bet personally with others IRL. Or if there should be betting and other gambling sites and stores that it should be state owned, no ads and profits should go directly back to help the states people (In an idealistic society). This way I’d hope that without constant brain rot advertisement for betting, and more money going to prevention a good middle ground can be found where the many casual enjoyers can still bet without ruining their or others lives.
Do you have a link to this article? I can't find it anywhere
Great content Zealand watch every one ❤
zealand plague inc / pandemic reference went hard
The bottom of the iceberg is where the finnish line is.
The Zealand situation is crazy
There were also Ilves kissat that had Ukrainians used same way. Police is investigating at least 4 teams in Finnish 4th tier called Kakkonen that is regional league and in 5th tier Kolmonen.
This is going on in most sports world wide.. Particularly in European leagues top to bottom!
Same reason there is betting on USL2 or all College Sports - Action
Match fixing still core problems of footbal nowadays.
The game you’re talking about is Plague, Inc.
It’s easier to fix matches in lower amateur leagues since not as many are interested in it and thus there isn’t the same scrutiny around it. It is a major problem in Sweden as well, with Chinese betting platforms being used by organised crime to launder money.
And maybe now people start to understand that annoying Work Permit thing in FM's English football.
betting companies make so much money they probably dont even care
They don't care
Globo is a brazilian company, not portuguese
He was clearly referring to the portuguese language, not the nationality imo
nahh it was always Iceland for me on plague inc
Infecting Madagascar was kinda easy zealand. Make the virus carried by mosquitoes and job is done
Greenland was the pain in my a*s in that game. Similar situation to Madagascar but cold af
Another case of South American player's aspirations being exploited is SVA Darmstadt 04, a club that pretends to be professional or at least have professional structures, to lure South American players into German lower league football. This season, they even signed a player from the second Mexican division! They have also been know for recording videos at Darmstadt 98's ground and training facilities, pretending those are theirs.
I know 2 people personally who signed for this team from Scotland as well 😂 bunch of scammers
The lower the league, the easier it is to rig.
You just dont understand, the finnish 4th division goes crazy
Another one I remember tipping you off on ages ago, although it looks like you came to it on your own (nobody checks Twitter messages, I don’t blame you at all). Crazy shit.
The only people betting on Finnish 4th division are problem gamblers and match fixers, there's literally no good reason to allow betting on amateur leagues.
I don't get your comments about not understanding how there's a betting market for the Finnish fourth division. If people support teams and follow that division, of course there'll be people wanting to bet on it. Just like how the English non-leagues have betting markets...
And the less the players earn from football, the easier it is to hook them up on a match fixing scheme. Especially if they were brought in by human traffickers. Also less media coverage. People can be very ignorant about lower leagues and what goes on there.
Also considering the finnish fourth div. is somewhat professional in the regard that players from abroad get payed. I mean you can actually bet on the brazilian third tier of women basketball or the albanian water polo league on some sites, thats way more dubious imo. Someone else already said it perfectly: if it moves, you can bet on it
explains why my finnish fourth division side had a terrible season
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Just want to correct a tiny thing: Globo os brazilian, not portuguese! Unless you were talking about the Portuguese language then, nevermind me, I'm dumb
bei Lok und Chemie werden seit 2010 spiele geschmissen. grüße nach Leipzig :D
Z people that gambke for the fun of gambling don't take on fixed games, there is no fun in that. The people that bet on fixed games WANT the money. They want to turn 1000 to a million so they pay for info on fixed matches.
Also there are so many betting sites all over the world with people legitimately making obscure bets like people here in Nigeria betting on the Scottish 3rd league
Who's the adopted kid with no forehead in the back?
Rocha is pronounced Raw-Sha
Mentioning the plague game and saying its Madagascar he couldnt affect and not Greenland shows there is a skill issue
I am too dumb to be a criminal. I don’t even get how you are making money off of rigging such fringe matches. I don’t know about Finland but where I live betting on amateur sports is illegal and whenever a story breaks about a guy in the stands being caught transmitting data to illegal betting sites I am wondering who is betting there besides the criminals. Because gambling doesn’t create money out of thin air, you need people placing normal bets, who you can then cheat out of their potential win don’t you?
Lower league football can seem obscure but the fact is that hundreds of thousands of people are involved in it in every country. And a customer looking for great odds probably doesn't care what match it is. Also remember that many footballers are gamblers themselves. In professional leagues they cannot bet on their own league so perhaps they bet on lower divisions instead or even other sports.
Bro you fell off. 0 minutes ago and 0 views
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Bro needs some viewcount fixing.
Wrong, I was thinking about watching this video before he even published it. The fact that youtube isn't advanced enough to count that as a view is not Z's fault.
Your braincells fell off before commenting this.
More the reason to remember Zealand doesent have a clue about real football