What are schools really teaching? | Erika Sanzi | Just Asking Questions, Ep. 41

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  • @virghof5836
    @virghof5836 Місяць тому +81

    Chipping away, absolutely! This is one of the reasons children are depressed and anxious!!! Confusion!!!

    • @philwohlrab7588
      @philwohlrab7588 Місяць тому

      It's really a philosophical war rooted in postmodernism where there is an admission that the American meta narrative created by the enlightenment inspired founders was really just white supremacy writ large. Foucault instructed the two theories mentioned plus post colonialism. The basic assumption is that truth can't exist outside power. So these battles in schools really is an attempt to deconstruct existing paradigms and reconstruct one based on identity, and one that pushes selective subjectivity. Which Foucault himself, ironically would have opposed. It's almost like they've used his writing as a manual for retribution.

    • @tina-mariecrocker5687
      @tina-mariecrocker5687 Місяць тому +1

      Well said ❤

    • @kaymichelle7327
      @kaymichelle7327 Місяць тому +1

      Agreed

    • @JMaiden-ym2bl
      @JMaiden-ym2bl Місяць тому

      Yeah-it has nothing to do with their stay-on-phone helicopter moms.

    • @jefhorton1958
      @jefhorton1958 Місяць тому +1

      Confusion is the devil's playground.

  • @justinhale5693
    @justinhale5693 Місяць тому +142

    Once we trusted the government with our children the game was lost.

    • @notachair4757
      @notachair4757 Місяць тому +2

      Who would you have people trust?
      Corporations?
      or would you rather force it upon parents?

    • @justinhale5693
      @justinhale5693 Місяць тому

      @@notachair4757 *force* ?!?

    • @usefulidiot00
      @usefulidiot00 Місяць тому +21

      @@notachair4757 Gee I wonder what people did for literally thousands of years before public schools existed.

    • @notachair4757
      @notachair4757 Місяць тому

      @usefulidiot00 The rich sent their kids to private schools and the poor were illiterate?

    • @iand654456
      @iand654456 Місяць тому +2

      I received a good education from a school on a military base

  • @abramgaller2037
    @abramgaller2037 Місяць тому +52

    Children need books that have good grammar, good poetics, and good moral principles.

    • @mikeveis6393
      @mikeveis6393 Місяць тому +1

      That's already gone out the door.

  • @gabeo9474
    @gabeo9474 Місяць тому +50

    The important thing to understand is that social justice activism is only supposed to be temporary. The purpose is to correct a perceived injustice, so, assuming that the activism is effective, it's only a matter of time before the injustice will be corrected, thus eliminating the need for further activism. The thing is, we have many people who (seemingly unwisely) stake their entire livelihood on the expectation that the need for activism will never end. This turns the activism industry into a sort of pressure cooker where established activists need to find ways to justify their continued existence. And this is the driving force behind it all.

    • @helenromanelli2544
      @helenromanelli2544 Місяць тому +1

      Very well said ..

    • @petepower4217
      @petepower4217 Місяць тому

      Yes, well said indeed. The tiers of education in our country are mostly populated with folks of a liberal mindset. I think they believe that "raising" a liberal is the most important thing they can accomplish, generally speaking. Children don't have the life experience from which to draw upon so, in a way, they are empty vessels...to be filled. Rather than waiting for the child to develop any elements of wisdom over time, the liberal educator will "get their licks in" to "write" upon the child's "clay tablet of a mind" to "fix" certain ideologies into the developing child's mind.
      What you end up with is rather like an UN-guided missile of a social activist by the time they are done with them. The result is a virtue signaler w/out life experience.
      Indoctrination is a handy tool for those wishing to manipulate others. It is a very tempting thing to do to another in that it validates what you believe/wish is true. Then, all you have to do is "lock arms", whether you be right or wrong, and be, I hate to say it, effective in shaping culture. This approach is as old as any gathering of humans beyond a very minimal number (very small "tribe").
      I grew up with a lot of folks saying, like it was a generational theme, "I want to change the world". They would say this even though they had/have an incomplete picture of how humans work/live together. Not the fairy tale picture but the very real historical record of how folks actually behave.
      Here is a simple example: it didn't take too long for folks to figure out, way back when, that selfish people that would do harm to others needed to be sequestered from society, for the general good of society. Now, there are folks that are standing that argument, which has stood the test of time, on its head. Yes, the bad person will suffer for their actions but the rest of folks (hopefully larger in number) can go about life without having to constantly look over their shoulder. How did we get here? By providing excuses, ad nauseum.
      Folks who want to "change the world" need to start by standing in front of the mirror and telling themselves that they need to bridle themselves before they set out to bridle others.
      WIthout some sense of humility, it is very difficult to become wise. And no, there is no requirement that one desire to become wise but a general cacophony will follow that choice.
      Wash, rinse, repeat.

    • @Mirroj
      @Mirroj Місяць тому +1

      How insightful

    • @ErikGriffith1
      @ErikGriffith1 Місяць тому +2

      Great insight

    • @AndyJarman
      @AndyJarman Місяць тому

      It's gnosticism. In Plato's book "The Republic" Socrates proposes society be ruled by enlightened "Philosopher Kings" who would dispense justice and manage wisely.
      A problem Marx and Engels identified though is that reasoning and values as a whole are corrupted by a desire to fit in. We are suffering a delusion they referred to as "False Consciousness'" - this justified eradicating everyone who disagrees with The Party after the Bolsheviks took power in the 1920s.
      Now, fast forward to the 1960s and the Marxists in California could see the Americans in baby boom America would never be awoken from their False Consciousness.
      Californian Marxist philosopher Herbert Marcuse recommended that to bring about the great awakening, the energy of the spoilt children of the post war years, and the vengeful resentment of the "ghetto" classes should be used to raise a consciousness critical of the affluent comfortable lifestyle the workers of America were enjoying.
      The 1968 student rebellions commenced. The great awakening from False Consciousness had started.
      The children of America's immigrant and black classes became Woke.
      Falling asleep again, being seduced by materialism is some thing that .ust always be guarded against.
      This sacred mission has been given to all those who want to see justice is maintained, a Social Justice, a Critical Social Justice.
      So teachers, politicians, HR departments and judges are our new saviours, they are avowed defenders of Critical Social Justice, the never ending perpetual fight against being happy and satisfied.
      It's an eternal crusade, dismantling society.

  • @gabeo9474
    @gabeo9474 Місяць тому +50

    The inappropriate books serve two purposes. The first, and most obvious, purpose is to further expand the ideology. The main purpose, however, is to antagonize their opponents and elicit a reaction that can be leveraged to reinforce the victim narrative and prove the continued existence of discrimination.

    • @rebekahmontesdeoca565
      @rebekahmontesdeoca565 Місяць тому +6

      That's very insightful. This hasn't been considered enough.

    • @tristanm4332
      @tristanm4332 Місяць тому

      Just like the most inappropriate book for school age children...
      The bible.
      And yes there are sexual verses in the bible. Ezekiel 23:20 New International Version: "There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses".

    • @kenjmyer
      @kenjmyer Місяць тому +5

      This is a fundamental aspect of Hegelian center - margin rhetoric. Though found predominantly in the Frankfort school in the last century it now makes up the pop go to for gender studies, racial identity, sexual orientation, you have to radicalize with rhetoric and the elementary school has been the easiest target in early social formation since the late 80s.

    • @tommyprado9142
      @tommyprado9142 Місяць тому +2

      EXACTLY

    • @tylersingleton9284
      @tylersingleton9284 Місяць тому +4

      "They cry out as they stike you"

  • @northshorelight35
    @northshorelight35 Місяць тому +46

    They do indoctrinate. Specifically from ELA and social studies teachers. I was a teacher and saw this.

    • @sbielec30
      @sbielec30 Місяць тому

      😂😂😂 I would almost believe you, but Social Studies is non existent in schools. Social Studies is the crossword puzzle from the Weekly Reader 😂😂😂😂

    • @johnvahl762
      @johnvahl762 Місяць тому

      ​@@sbielec30
      Even worse, they have renamed the classes Social Science. And there is nothing scientific about it. They are misrepresenting the history of the world and our nation to fit their twisted agenda.

  • @groworforage342
    @groworforage342 Місяць тому +32

    many people also don't know many schools are NOT teaching novels or original documents anymore. I'm talking about kids getting to 7th grade without EVER reading a whole novel. They're only doing excerpts. it's not just about abandoning basics but also scope and depth from a cultural perspective. Is it all replaced w/ superficial content for woke checkboxes?

    • @user-sx9hq7qwert
      @user-sx9hq7qwert Місяць тому

      Y is reading a novel important? More to e point, y is reading fiction important at all? "Culture" is a lie, told by very unhealthy people. Y repeat it?
      "Come out of her, my people." Let Babylon rot with all its evil intact: don't take any of it home; don't copy evil practices.

  • @heartpath1
    @heartpath1 Місяць тому +36

    The bottom line is I’m against the worldview that European culture is bad, America is systemically racist, that black and brown people are more compassionate and enlightened, that sexual preference should be a protected identity and taught in school, and that gender is a fluid mindset. I think most of society agrees with me. The small groups of politically supported activists must be fought with everything we have or our society will crumble. Do I sound dramatic? Definitely, but that doesn’t mean it’s not happening. It’s time to push back against DEI and wokeism.

    • @tina-mariecrocker5687
      @tina-mariecrocker5687 Місяць тому +2

      Exactly

    • @chesscomsupport8689
      @chesscomsupport8689 Місяць тому +1

      Honestly, I'm at the point where I'm starting to think European culture is bad, because it led to the progressivism we see today. As much as the progressives see themselves as opposed to the Western tradition, it makes more sense from a broader point of view to see them as a logical extension of it - that is, the tradition that produced the Enlightenment, the American Revolution, etc. is naturally going to produce further agitation going forward. Most Islamic societies today, just to use an example, are not witnessing the same phenomenon, and there are reasons for that difference.

    • @heartpath1
      @heartpath1 Місяць тому +2

      @@chesscomsupport8689 Cultures produce many ideas and modes of thought. Conservatism is as European as Liberalism. The left promotes the idea that European culture is entirely devoid of any positive aspects and is only exploitative, corrupt, violent, racist, and oppressive. The fact is western countries are the least racist in human history. The British Empire funded an anti slavery naval fleet to patrol the seas in order to eradicate the slave trade. America fought a bloody civil war in an effort to abolish slavery. The fact is Europeans have made so many contributions that the world enjoys today that it’s flat out absurd to suggest otherwise. Of course, like any culture there are both positive and negatives but let’s stop the crusade to make white people the villains in the human story.

    • @chesscomsupport8689
      @chesscomsupport8689 Місяць тому

      @@heartpath1 And some of those things you list are exactly the problem. The anti-racist crusaders of today, who are a characteristically Western phenomenon, are a logical extension of the British anti-slavery naval fleet of yore. If Western culture actually were more like what the left claims it is, then it would not have produced the modern-day left to begin with. But because, as you correctly state, it is not that, we are seeing the fruits the Western tradition has borne.

    • @chesscomsupport8689
      @chesscomsupport8689 Місяць тому

      @@heartpath1 And some of those things you list are exactly the problem. The anti-racist crusaders of today, who are a characteristically Western phenomenon, are a logical extension of the British anti-slavery naval fleet of yore. If Western culture actually were more like what the left claims it is, then it would not have produced the modern-day left to begin with. But because, as you correctly state, it is not that, we are seeing the fruits the Western tradition has borne.

  • @rebekahmontesdeoca565
    @rebekahmontesdeoca565 Місяць тому +22

    Teachers who think they can possibly care more about my child than I do really piss me off. They assume that the child will be in danger from their parents if they know about a transition but actually their parents are the ones who are most invested in their child and therefore the one most likely to care about them. There are a few really bad parents but there are also dangerous teachers and I think parents are the safest bet due to their huge investment and biological urge to love.

    • @KonekoPurrrfection
      @KonekoPurrrfection Місяць тому

      They actually don't think they care more about the children then the parents...
      Its because they're PDFiles or narcissists

    • @AA-sf7wc
      @AA-sf7wc Місяць тому

      Government above parents is a push towards socialism.

    • @user-sx9hq7qwert
      @user-sx9hq7qwert Місяць тому

      A few bad parents? Umm. There are more than a few, n a "biological urge to love" is not a given. At all.
      Bad teachers, bad parents: they r both bad people.

    • @TijuanaK
      @TijuanaK Місяць тому

      I assure you, YOU can have your brat and I wouldn't give a shit.

  • @hw_plainview1179
    @hw_plainview1179 Місяць тому +32

    3 years ago I attended my daughter's middle school graduation in Nassau County, south shore, middle class community. The principle gave a speech telling the students that if they can be one thing they should be kind. "People will always remember those who are kind" she said. I told my daughter afterwards that I thought it was a stupid speech. You cannot please everyone all the time, and you cannot go around worrying about being nice all the time.

    • @victoriafuller4148
      @victoriafuller4148 Місяць тому

      Yes. Hate speech is so much more effective….ha

    • @TheNancypoo
      @TheNancypoo Місяць тому +1

      Sounds like the type of nothing rhetoric that rolls out of Harris’s mouth 🙄
      What a stupid message to be sending kids just starting their journey.

    • @thefallenslavesusall1857
      @thefallenslavesusall1857 Місяць тому

      be nice...until it's not time to be nice....#roadhouse

    • @Ms.A422
      @Ms.A422 Місяць тому

      I’m in Nassau have you considered homeschooling? The school system is getting crazy.

  • @IAmInterested-cc4hr
    @IAmInterested-cc4hr Місяць тому +36

    If we dont want governors or national level representatives weighing in on books then we need to close the Federal Department of Education and go back to local tax dollars stay in local school districts, source of funding brings power maybe you dont get some magic grant if you dont have Gender Queer on your reading list because the DOE thinks you should.

    • @Dan16673
      @Dan16673 Місяць тому

      Yup

    • @troll_kin9456
      @troll_kin9456 Місяць тому

      It would also help if the head of the federal department that creates the library book lists was not a self-described Marxist who bragged about being an infiltrator.

    • @sbielec30
      @sbielec30 Місяць тому

      I can tell you have no clue where textbooks come from. There used to be three publishers, that is now two. Another fun fact, Texas and California decide what goes into textbooks.
      You only receive federal funding if you participate in programs offered. ALL schools are funded by local taxes, hence why they are called Independent School Districts.
      I totally agree that Dept of Education has done more damage than good. It is great to have opinion, but that opinion should be one based on concrete information. Not having all the information is exactly what got our education system in the dumps.

    • @troll_kin9456
      @troll_kin9456 Місяць тому

      @@sbielec30 This is simply false. I can't speak for every single school district, but I know in the urban area I used to live in, public schools, though part of the local budget, were funded by massive grants that were passed along by the state government from the feds.
      And there WERE requirements for receiving that money. At the time, there was an effort to cut spending on public schools, which were the single largest line item in the budget, but it turned out it was impossible to make a 10% cut. There were minimum spending requirements to receive the grant, which are responsible for something like 70% of the funding for public schools. So you couldn't cut spending to schools at all unless you were prepared to lose the grant and effectively cut 70% of spending.
      And I don't think the place I lived was unusual in that respect. I expect this is the norm.

    • @sbielec30
      @sbielec30 Місяць тому

      @@troll_kin9456 Go back and re read what I said. Your rant shows you didn’t read it. Go back and slowly read.
      You also have never looked at the budget, or you would know the largest line item isn’t education, it is social security. You are just parroting things you heard, look it up. Largest line item in US budget.

  • @ellenbunker-lopez4007
    @ellenbunker-lopez4007 Місяць тому +7

    Thank you for this! i live in NYC and my kids are in public school, 3rd-7th grade. I have already notice some of this just from a parental observers distance but had no idea that it is not expected policy. Makes me very upset. I send my children to school for academic learning, not indoctrination.

  • @christopherleslie
    @christopherleslie Місяць тому +37

    Where in the curriculum are they addressing the portions of this country that are not as developed as where these kids live? The average American has no clue what people in rural Appalachia or rural Montana reservations living conditions are like.

    • @rachelm6941
      @rachelm6941 Місяць тому

      The elites largely just imagine what these peoples' lives are like and don't bother to fact check. Their realities are so outside of the scheme of the elites who have the free time and resources to push for curriculum changes...they don't even know what they don't know. They're dismissive of others who they perceive to have this flaw that is just epidemic in the elite circles. Most of them have never had a social relationship with someone who was "working poor" and take for granted that the other people have the resources they take for granted because they've literally never met a person who could even explain to them what life is like in an underfunded school (hint, its not the poor quality of the track!), waiting for payday to buy necessities, getting medical services at a clinic, etc.

    • @Clothmom1
      @Clothmom1 Місяць тому

      Oh gosh! This is very true!

    • @dustinmarquand5301
      @dustinmarquand5301 Місяць тому +10

      That's a very odd comment. "Not as developed"?
      Most rural kids I know are more mentally diverse in all subjects, but little of it comes from public education...

    • @Mirroj
      @Mirroj Місяць тому +2

      @@christopherleslie read the Foxfire series. You talk about resourcefulness as if it is a lack of intelligence.

    • @TheJocelynrae
      @TheJocelynrae Місяць тому +4

      ​@dustinmarquand5301 There are places where the infrastructure is very underdeveloped in America - where people lack reliable access to food, water, electricity, and/or medical care.
      I assume that's what the original commenter is talking about.
      I don't think they meant the levels of personal development of the individuals living there.

  • @johncoktosten9208
    @johncoktosten9208 Місяць тому +8

    The age inappropriateness compared to the information given is the number one characteristic of indoctrination. They are trying to get ideas in your kids head before you can give them any other ideas.

  • @josephbenz4913
    @josephbenz4913 Місяць тому +5

    “Why are we burdening children with this? “Because they are too young to think critically about what they’re being told.

  • @peterhudson7819
    @peterhudson7819 Місяць тому +9

    You are right. This is robbing kids of their childhood. Young kids should be being encouraged to play and interact in playful ways. To stress little kids out with social issues and political agendas instead of sticking to educating for the real world is abuse. Personal values and tolerance and behaviour are things that should be being instilled in the home. Furthermore to downplay the importance of language, and math is insanity. And what they are doing with history and not at history in the context of the time period is criminal. Why cant they see that pounding these things into a kids head at such an early age is in fact hateful is alienating kids based upon how they are born is abusive. I am not even going to get into the sexualizing of kids because it makes me sick to think that this is purposefully being done in schools. This is all so backwards and it baffles me to think that this anyone could support any of this, and I do not believe that this is a natural progression and not an indoctrination and part of a larger agenda which aims to cause harm.

  • @anerrantknight8077
    @anerrantknight8077 Місяць тому +45

    I have had this conversation with my very left leaning friend. He thinks keeping books like Gender Queer keeps personal stories out of elementary schools for kids to relate. Strangely enough, he disagreed when I asked him if pornstar Jenna Jameson's autobiography, Playboy and Playgirl should also be permitted in elementary schools. Unfortunately, he failed to see his hypocrisy.

    • @scsmith4604
      @scsmith4604 Місяць тому

      The left never sees their hypocrisy.

    • @TheTapeandscissors
      @TheTapeandscissors Місяць тому +1

      Why did he disagree with that? Is this shit that didn't happen? Can very easily see a book like that in a high school library for sure.

    • @anerrantknight8077
      @anerrantknight8077 Місяць тому

      @@TheTapeandscissors because of the nudity of the magazines & the inappropriateness of Jameson’s life story.
      Again, he missed the hypocrisy of what he was saying. Which is no surprise, since he thinks “my body, my choice” doesn’t apply to vaccine mandates, but does abortions.

    • @anerrantknight8077
      @anerrantknight8077 Місяць тому +4

      @@TheTapeandscissors He thought nudity in the magazines & Jameson’s explicit experiences were not appropriate for elementary age students. I don’t think he actually knows what Gender Queer is about. And he didn’t believe me when I outlined what that book actually was.
      He also didn’t see the hypocrisy of not acknowledging “my body, my choice” during a certain mandate a couple years ago.

    • @tina-mariecrocker5687
      @tina-mariecrocker5687 Місяць тому +2

      They have no clue how hypocritical they are

  • @petepower4217
    @petepower4217 Місяць тому +11

    "Why are you burdening these children with these topics?" The simplest answer is to indoctrinate them at an early age.
    Decide if you are OK with this or not. Hiding beneath the skirts of "teaching" is a flimsy excuse. Indoctrination is not an element on the path to transcendence.

  • @danieldow9385
    @danieldow9385 Місяць тому +11

    My child is in the second grade and is only now starting to grasp the idea of living in a town that is in a county that is in a state that is in a country that is on Earth. Water in Africa? 😂

  • @ChrisOlin
    @ChrisOlin Місяць тому +11

    James Lindsay was right.

    • @peterbills4129
      @peterbills4129 13 днів тому +1

      All 3 on this panel would benefit from listening to his videos. The gal in the middle repeatedly says Critical Theory and SEL; she's so close to grasping what the actual issue is.

  • @tylersingleton9284
    @tylersingleton9284 Місяць тому +11

    I don't care what the "technical" definition of "pornography" is. Illustrations and written descriptions are absolutely part of porn. Your grandma's favorite vanilla smut book is still porn. Anything with it that is given to children should be considered distribution to minors and be legally prosecuted.

    • @AA-iy4gm
      @AA-iy4gm Місяць тому

      I agree, and let me preface this by saying I'm an independent voter, but the extreme liberal/leftist influences are slowly but surely making sure that it's all very normalized, as we can see all around us, not just more and more s*xual content but more disturbing s*xual content as well, in the name of their version of freedom, expression and inclusivity. It doesn't help that the loud extreme right would rather pretend that s*x doesn't exist, stifling even the normal parts of that side of human nature, so it's hard for the two sides to even talk let alone meet in some middle. The middle, the moderates are missing, so every four years we have one or the other extremist side to pick to lead the country...

  • @sabinesfamily
    @sabinesfamily Місяць тому +9

    For kindergarten and early elementary school, the most appropriate social studies have to do with the child's immediate community. Africa? Other than a cursory understanding of the globe and far away places, the focus should be what is closest to the child geographically. That's aside from trying to introduce kids to certain political ideologies.

    • @mademsoisellerhapsody
      @mademsoisellerhapsody Місяць тому +2

      Language development is the primary area of learning from birth to about age 8. That’s why other countries teach foreign language from kindergarten forward. The U.S. stubbornly puts off foreign language courses until AFTER the students window for language learning closes.

    • @sabinesfamily
      @sabinesfamily Місяць тому +1

      @@mademsoisellerhapsody I agree that children can easily become bilingual but that isn't readily applicable to them cognitively understanding geographic locations that are irrelevant in their own lives.

    • @jlorde8838
      @jlorde8838 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@mademsoisellerhapsodythis isn't about language.

  • @maxpower1337
    @maxpower1337 Місяць тому +15

    Reading writing and arithmetic, kids don't need to talk about sex in freaking school who wanted this?

    • @KonekoPurrrfection
      @KonekoPurrrfection Місяць тому

      PDFiles wanting a larger pool of broken and confused kids to choose from.

    • @KonekoPurrrfection
      @KonekoPurrrfection Місяць тому

      Anyone who supports and pushes this is absolutely a PDF

    • @Mirroj
      @Mirroj Місяць тому

      Groomers and pedophiles in the school system administration wanted this.

    • @AA-iy4gm
      @AA-iy4gm Місяць тому +2

      Yeah remember when we were kids and had the privilege to think of our teachers with innocent eyes as just teachers, knowing absolutely nothing about their personal lives and being blissfully ignorant, rather than burdened by that on top of our own adolescent growing pains.

    • @TijuanaK
      @TijuanaK Місяць тому

      You'd have a point (I still wouldn't agree though) if _Captain Underpants_ and other such elementary and middle grade novels were not being censored and removed from school libraries.
      Get a grip.

  • @josephrohland5604
    @josephrohland5604 Місяць тому +78

    H O M E S C H O O L.

    • @victoriafuller4148
      @victoriafuller4148 Місяць тому

      Unless becoming a brain surgeon…ha

    • @Ms.A422
      @Ms.A422 Місяць тому +2

      Interesting that a lot of public schools are dumbed down. I’ve grown up in public school and it did very little to promote my talents. There were good teachers but on a whole many bad apples that could care less about their job. On the flip side if you have a parent who is well educated and has the means to provide socialization and push their children to be the best, why not more power to them? In that sense it’s a superior choice to public school.

    • @dandelionwine8487
      @dandelionwine8487 Місяць тому

      Especially if you want to become a brain surgeon. Homeschooled kids are ahead of the game.​@@victoriafuller4148

  • @t3tsuyaguy1
    @t3tsuyaguy1 Місяць тому +10

    I have a filtration system in my home, but it isn't because the water coming through my tap is undrinkable. Instead, I simply know that there are imperfections in any system, so there is a chance, however small, that my water could contain something unhealthy, lead for example. The cost of the filtration system is low enough, that it is worth it to me to have that additional layer of safety.

  • @mademsoisellerhapsody
    @mademsoisellerhapsody Місяць тому +8

    What IS developmentally appropriate for school age children is LANGUAGE DEVELOPMENT.
    WHY don’t US public schools teach foreign languages starting in Kindergarten when the window for language development is wide open? Asking for a Gen Alpha.

    • @Morbieus
      @Morbieus Місяць тому +2

      Our kids can't even read... this is much more important than trying to make them multilingual

    • @mademsoisellerhapsody
      @mademsoisellerhapsody Місяць тому

      @@Morbieus 🛫

    • @kenjmyer
      @kenjmyer Місяць тому

      Both kids went to Spanish immersion school K through eighth, but these schools only exist in more populated areas

  • @CarobMarcelle
    @CarobMarcelle Місяць тому +10

    In regards to your comment about race, if the only people are socialist (they are) and not people like Booker T Washington, Woodson even learning about Clarance Thomas. Then we are not all represented. It’s ONLY progressive socialism they ignore other viewpoints!

  • @lisathomas7932
    @lisathomas7932 Місяць тому +5

    We need to just continue to build our own schools for pure academics and if you can , homeschool. Beautiful innocent children are not worth the risk of this disgrace.

  • @info3496
    @info3496 Місяць тому +8

    Schools have been indoctrination centers for decades. That is why I chose to homeschool my kids 28 years ago. So glad I did.

    • @Republitarian-g4h
      @Republitarian-g4h Місяць тому

      Reduce the requirements of what is considered an education. Most people learn by doing things. Kids do NOT need to be learning in a school type setting, whether it be in public, private, home school for 6 hours a day 13 years or 17 to 18 years. Most people learn by DOING things. Kids need to start working earlier coupled with school and sports. . .

  • @robertsmall1657
    @robertsmall1657 Місяць тому +5

    “Teachers should be aware that European beauty standards are considered ideal in America such as light/pale skin”
    I didn’t realize that tanning beds and spray tans made you more attractive by making your skin lighter and more pale. 🙄
    Most women want darker skin. These schools are just lying.

    • @gisellemagraibhaigh8342
      @gisellemagraibhaigh8342 Місяць тому

      Its not a European standard its a world standard - globally the desire for pale skin (particularly for women) is valued to differentiate from the peasantry. Labouring outdoors vs sedantry scholarship or wealthy chaise lounging

  • @georger6624
    @georger6624 Місяць тому +5

    And then you wonder why normal teachers are quitting

  • @MitchellCantrell-h4q
    @MitchellCantrell-h4q Місяць тому +12

    I feel sorry for the kids. You have people who shouldn't get together, having kids when they shouldn't be having kids for a dozen reasons and then throwing the poor things into a system that is ran by groomers all while our pathetic society is attacking them from every direction with liberal patheticness. No chance

  • @brightpage1020
    @brightpage1020 Місяць тому +1

    💯 “chipping away at their childhood”, at their ability to reason, developmentally. 💯

  • @lampaso6967
    @lampaso6967 Місяць тому +2

    Describing the facts about African countries depends on the purpose, attitude, motivation, and tone of the speaker.

  • @_hesha_7092
    @_hesha_7092 Місяць тому +1

    It's strange how many educators have no clue what is developmentally appropriate for children at different ages. This must be an intentional oversight in the education and training of teachers.

  • @CrudelyMade
    @CrudelyMade Місяць тому +17

    how long before kindergarten kids who like cats are told that maybe they're a furry. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    • @eattheinvaders.3037
      @eattheinvaders.3037 Місяць тому +2

      Too late. It's already happening.

    • @TheNancypoo
      @TheNancypoo Місяць тому +1

      @@eattheinvaders.3037exactly, Hello Kitty is now being sold as a girl who has always been a girl. No, it was a cat and everyone knew it. This world sucks!!

  • @Traderbear
    @Traderbear Місяць тому +5

    Liz is in angry mom mode, and Zach is far too gentlemanly haha Great talk everyone

    • @RubenCota-w2s
      @RubenCota-w2s Місяць тому

      Yes. They both come across as leftist Democrats.

  • @jimbaxter8488
    @jimbaxter8488 Місяць тому +16

    GET GOVERNMENT THE HELL OUT OF EDUCATION….

  • @fruitofthevinefoundationra3266
    @fruitofthevinefoundationra3266 Місяць тому +1

    Schools must get back to teaching reading, writing, and arithmetic. We have got to get government out of schools.
    Parents determine what their child should and should not participate. As a former principal and teacher, hold your local principal accountable. School boards should be accountable to protect students from pornography and sexually explicit material at all cost.

  • @kittenzrulz2314
    @kittenzrulz2314 Місяць тому +4

    I find it interesting that only one type of indoctrination in education is discussed. In my school they declared that disagreeing with their religious ideology is not allowed, furthermore questioning their conservative agenda was strictly prohibited.

    • @RubenCota-w2s
      @RubenCota-w2s Місяць тому +2

      Was it a private school? Private schools have that right. It's wrong on both sides if it was a public school.

    • @kittenzrulz2314
      @kittenzrulz2314 Місяць тому +1

      @@RubenCota-w2s You do know private schools receive most of their money from the government? Effectively speaking taxdollars was spent so I could be indoctrinated, the school literally had a political ideology (right-wing) that students were not allowed to disagree with.

    • @Republitarian-g4h
      @Republitarian-g4h Місяць тому +2

      @@kittenzrulz2314 . . good. Better if they just eliminated public funding of education all together. It is doing a lot of damage.

  • @eattheinvaders.3037
    @eattheinvaders.3037 Місяць тому +5

    Im so tired of hearing the phrase European Beauty Standards. There is no such thing. Every continent has a myriad of varying cultural standards- including societal beauty standards. Then there are universal standards that transcend nearly society. The majority of what is referred to as "European beauty standards" are in fact universal standards. For example height and athletic build for men, hip to waist to shoulder ration for women. Facial symmetry for both. Another universal standard is rarity- least common hair color is red, least common eye color is green. Final note: the vast number of non-white cultures around the globe that value pale skin as a beauty standard for women.

  • @bernardfurst9133
    @bernardfurst9133 Місяць тому +1

    I don't know how people can successfully argue that these topics are a good thing to be taught this way and at these ages

  • @Nonsense-On-Stilts
    @Nonsense-On-Stilts Місяць тому

    Thank you for talking about this is a fair and balanced way. Throwing out the book banning accusations is what Andrew Gold calls “thought terminating cliches” that instantly shut down discussions on multi faceted topics. It is important to have meaningful dialogue.

  • @marywiggins7411
    @marywiggins7411 Місяць тому +5

    Okay. The word 'colonizer' is thrown around way too much. And 2nd graders don't need to know the ABC's of the black panther party. Maybe in 6th grade.
    Teach basics, solid basics.

  • @mariekatherine5238
    @mariekatherine5238 Місяць тому +2

    My grandchildren and grand nieces and nephews will never darken the door of a U.S. public school. They are either homeschooled or attend private traditional or religious schools.

  • @sethhill5689
    @sethhill5689 Місяць тому +3

    We are more worried about teaching SJW than teaching people to do math, read, etc. We have far too many people graduating that can't read or do math at grade level.

  • @chrislloyd8820
    @chrislloyd8820 Місяць тому +1

    It's always nice when Liz lets the other people talk.

  • @MockBrainworthy
    @MockBrainworthy Місяць тому +4

    If they aren't certified in it, they shouldn't be teaching it. If they are teaching uncertified then that is cause for discharge.

    • @AA-iy4gm
      @AA-iy4gm Місяць тому +2

      It comes from the top. Among many other players, the president of the United Federation of Teachers is Randi Weingarten, openly lesbian, without children of her own, in charge of influencing generations of children, backed up by liberal mega donors, with a statement that's still up on AFT website (education healthcare public services) since 2018 of her endorsement of J.B. Pritzker, for Illinois billionaire governor, who also happens to be trans...

  • @karmabint
    @karmabint Місяць тому +6

    how to shut down a joy of learning

  • @CarobMarcelle
    @CarobMarcelle Місяць тому +4

    Look up Emily Drabinski president of the American library association. You will get your answers.

  • @chrishalle4878
    @chrishalle4878 29 днів тому

    Made it about a third of the way through. Good guest, could you please let her speak more ?

  • @GreenWhitePurple
    @GreenWhitePurple 13 днів тому

    Great discussion

  • @BruceWing
    @BruceWing Місяць тому

    Fabulous and frightening discussion.

  • @melissa-p2k4v
    @melissa-p2k4v Місяць тому

    Thank you for your work and bringing awareness to this. It definitely seems to be a common theme that's popping up on the left - even the world economic forum. Very scary as a parent and someone who appreciates our freedoms, getting information from a variety of sources, and using critically thinking.

  • @kathyhagan8444
    @kathyhagan8444 Місяць тому

    What an excellent discussion

  • @TheDeadMan79
    @TheDeadMan79 Місяць тому

    The women of Reason are great, Amber Duke and Liz Wolfe in particular.

  • @authenticallysuperficial9874
    @authenticallysuperficial9874 Місяць тому +23

    Abolish state schooling NOW

    • @mht5875
      @mht5875 Місяць тому +6

      And abolish the Department of Education too

    • @michah321
      @michah321 Місяць тому +1

      So what are you doing with 100 million kids?

    • @wildcatblue13
      @wildcatblue13 Місяць тому +1

      @@michah321parents can teach them , that’s how it was done for decades

    • @michah321
      @michah321 Місяць тому +1

      @@authenticallysuperficial9874 would that abolish most of property taxes?

    • @michah321
      @michah321 Місяць тому +2

      @@wildcatblue13 yeah in the 1700s and 1800s🙄 when there was basic reading and addition and subtraction. 🙄

  • @christophermyslicki3526
    @christophermyslicki3526 Місяць тому

    Great talk

  • @blessed_wife.mom.boss_
    @blessed_wife.mom.boss_ Місяць тому +1

    Another issue is that these types of books being on the "required reading list".

  • @jonathanlee6098
    @jonathanlee6098 Місяць тому +1

    Education trains you on how to think. Indoctrination trains you on what to think.

  • @rachelm6941
    @rachelm6941 Місяць тому +25

    Re: The Bluest Eye- I'm not sure why the host is speaking about a book he's never read. Here's the scoop. (SPOILERS AHEAD) 1) I'm a big fan of Toni Morrison and think everyone should read her work at some point in their lives 2) The Bluest Eye is not for young children. Here's why. The protagonist is a young girl whose father r@pes her. She becomes pregnant, and eventually loses her mind. The darkness of the abuse this child faces both at home and in the wider society is so awful, most tweens and many teens probably won't even process it. I read it the first time as a teen, I missed much of the meaning of the book. Secondly, and this is obvious, r@pe/ince$t are not an age appropriate topic for tweens. My personal opinion is that this book should be available in high schools, and only assigned as an optional read on a list for kids in grades 9 & above because of the scene where this poor child is being r@ped by her father. Shocking children with no sexual experience by stories that make adults feel sick is common sense, not part of educating them on matters of racism, history, or healthy sexuality.

    • @darbyheavey406
      @darbyheavey406 Місяць тому +14

      Morrison is hugely overrated but your point is very well made.

    • @LebanonBologna40
      @LebanonBologna40 Місяць тому +10

      I read it in college and agree it should be reserved for older teens in an advanced class setting.

    • @-astrangerontheinternet6687
      @-astrangerontheinternet6687 Місяць тому +5

      That was read by my class in the 4th grade.
      The rap.e scene was read out loud by the class.
      It disturbed me greatly.

    • @northshorelight35
      @northshorelight35 Місяць тому

      I read this book in 8th grade. I don’t remember what it was about, but based on your post now I know why. lol Yeah, I definitely would have missed all that. Not for junior high. Maybe not until 12th grade.

    • @mht5875
      @mht5875 Місяць тому +6

      Toni Morrison? Absolutely none of her books are appropriate for children.

  • @msorsky1
    @msorsky1 Місяць тому +1

    How does school choice work, when everyone wants their children to go to the same school? There will undoubtedly be better schools that parents will gravitate to, and inferior schools that parents will attempt to avoid... With school choice, how would we decide who gets to go to the school of their choice, and how will it work at the schools in which are avoided at most schools? How exactly would the decision be made as to prioritizing the choices of schools for children? Would it be a lottery? Merit based? Would children that live next to a better more popular school potentially not be allowed to go to that school because of too many other kids choosing that school? How exactly would school choice work for both the popular and unpopular schools?

    • @stevejelley6342
      @stevejelley6342 17 днів тому

      In Belgium, Netherlands and Ireland school choice is a constitutional right. So I guess school choice could work in the USA pretty much like it works in other countries.

  • @carnivoresinneosho6095
    @carnivoresinneosho6095 26 днів тому

    I remember the commercials about starving children in Africa, back in the early 80s. My mom would use these to encourage us to eat our dinner. As a kid I distinctly remember thinking, I will send my food to them. Adults complicate situations. Kids need to be kids. Adults are the ones that need view changes.

  • @dixon103
    @dixon103 Місяць тому +2

    I hate to burst the blonds bubble but there are large swaths of the country that don't have water running in their house in 2024. Back woods Appalachia, even in my home we have well water and must have a home filter system due to led. So you went to Africa, try mountains of TN.

  • @lolz-f6c
    @lolz-f6c 11 днів тому

    I always end up finding that I was taught a bunch of black history that others were never taught. We had a women and minorities class in high school that people seem amazed that I took it during the 90’s. I went to public school in the Hudson Valley, NY.

  • @jeffreydamonte67
    @jeffreydamonte67 Місяць тому +6

    Montessori schools are often a good place to look for elementary age education without the political indoctrination.

  • @cassiecoleman3584
    @cassiecoleman3584 Місяць тому

    Great content

  • @JohnSmith-ux3tt
    @JohnSmith-ux3tt Місяць тому +2

    Not reading
    Not writing
    Not math.

  • @TheLegionsofScipioAmericanus
    @TheLegionsofScipioAmericanus Місяць тому +4

    The people teaching this to children are evil. No getting around it anymore.

  • @rachginsberg
    @rachginsberg 28 днів тому

    1:17:29 I was thinking the same thing. Schools want parent engagement and then schools will turn around and withhold crucial information about their child.

  • @jujube6395
    @jujube6395 Місяць тому

    My suggestion to any parent is volunteer in your classroom and then you will know what's going on in the classroom.

  • @Network83-pf8bm
    @Network83-pf8bm Місяць тому +2

    Teaching is HARD. Much easier to just pontificate about one's personal life experiences and opinions. Ever since Carter empowered the NEA it's been all down hill.

  • @WinkLinkletter
    @WinkLinkletter 15 днів тому

    I was in 5th grade when my black female teacher showed us all 'Roots'. She stood to hide the partial nudity scene of the black woman, but rewound and rewound the 'Toby/Kunta Kente' flogging scene explaining to the class that this is how whites who were 'our' (the white kids) ancestors treated blacks. This was all the way back in the late 70's.

  • @lizzielove6927
    @lizzielove6927 Місяць тому

    I agree that certain topics shouldn’t be taught too early but when it comes to the history of and certain things that have happened in these United States of America, we still need to determine what age it is that certain truths be told. The truth is the only pathway to actual repair and reconciliation. The truth is there is a small faction that would like to see us continue to fight over race specifically and the other topics are simply icing. If they can keep us fighting over race then they can stay comfortable and in control of everyone while fueling both sides. Yes Black people are aware that repair is needed. That doesn’t mean that Black people seek to turn the tables or anything of the sort. Deep down, we all want to be able to live in peace and happiness.

  • @tinootnoot2725
    @tinootnoot2725 Місяць тому +3

    children dont lose teeth until age 6 on average. pre schoolers are still learning language, this is hilarious

  • @presidentrogue5668
    @presidentrogue5668 Місяць тому +1

    Stop allowing schools to be a government monopoly. Attach money to the kids and allow parents to CHOOSE. Competition means schools will serve parents and kids instead of unions, and it also drives innovation for success.

  • @Iamknwownastrouble
    @Iamknwownastrouble Місяць тому

    One thing that I remember sticking out is when we were introduced to Communism in high school, I raised my hand to ask what the problem was and instead of getting an answer I get yelled at by the teacher and a trip to my school counselor

  • @mikeveis6393
    @mikeveis6393 Місяць тому +1

    This is why children do not belong in school.

  • @RobertApfel-zr1cc
    @RobertApfel-zr1cc Місяць тому +2

    The inmates are running the asylum. It’s utter madness and it’s moral rot at the core. Teachers should just stick to teaching the basics: reading, writing and math. And enforcing discipline in the classroom. We are failing our children, full stop.

  • @dawnmitchell11
    @dawnmitchell11 Місяць тому +1

    I would argue that pervasive is almost worse than universal regarding indoctrination topics. It's harder to detect as a parent. Ever since 2020, it seems like schools are continuing to try to limit parent involvement in schools.
    I live in a fairly conservative suburb outside a blue city. So I know it is invading the district, it's just hard to tell to what degree.

  • @topomusicale5580
    @topomusicale5580 18 днів тому

    The point missed in the book 'ban' discussion is that the local school librarians WERE making 'judgement calls' around appropriateness, but the decisions they were making were not in line with what normal members of the community agree with when they learn what the actual content is (i.e., pornographic content.) School choice is a cop-out when you talk about this - the vast majority of students in this country have no choice due to the lack of alternatives or family resources to take advantage of alternatives.

  • @balduran2003
    @balduran2003 5 днів тому

    Children do not have the capacity to evaluate moral truths. They should be taught those things by their parents until they are old enough to evaluate for themselves. Topics under political debate should not be discussed in schools at all.

  • @Notwoke7
    @Notwoke7 23 дні тому

    I would comment that we have to look back to Edward Bernays. When the Industrial Revolution started education curriculum was based on turning out workers for factories, building arts - like plumbing electricity and other working class jobs. Remember the days when you could become a survey engineer after graduating from high school without any college, not so today. I would argue that with the technological revolution education is changing, but this ideological kind of curriculum has nothing to do with a good modern education

  • @MattGPT-eh4cp
    @MattGPT-eh4cp Місяць тому +1

    Schools and Teachers focus on these issues as a way to distract from their failures teaching traditional subjects like math and reading.

  • @kennethbassett3222
    @kennethbassett3222 23 дні тому

    Look to the leadership of the American Library Association. They are one of the key drivers related to the promotion and selection of the books for awards and for the creation of specific awards. These titles are bundled in subscription services from vendors who also financially support the annual conferences and publications of the ALA, like Scholastic. Regardless of where you stand on the content at issue, people should know there is an organized and coordinated promotion of these titles. The organization has a history of ideological perspectives that are definitely left of center and dismissive or sometimes hostile to other perspectives that are still aligned with Constitutional principles of free speech but have some differences of opinion when it comes to what is age appropriate or for those that draw a distinction between what is appropriate for a school library as compared to a public library.

  • @tinootnoot2725
    @tinootnoot2725 Місяць тому +3

    it's age inappropriate due to parent egos because they think their children are above average intelligence, narcissism strikes again. worked with children for 15 years and parents are VERY competitive

  • @TheDeadMan79
    @TheDeadMan79 Місяць тому +2

    Spoiler alert about Santa Clause and the Tooth Fairy

  • @samoler1211
    @samoler1211 Місяць тому

    Informing the teachers about these "beauty standards" is not about teaching kids the history of why European standards are more saught after in America. It's to remind teachers to promote students for their non traditionally American beauty. I.e. saying to the black girl, for her natural hair, looks pretty today.

  • @craftylittlemunchkins2815
    @craftylittlemunchkins2815 Місяць тому

    We live in California! I pulled my daughter out of public school because of this.

  • @alexgaudette988
    @alexgaudette988 Місяць тому

    Re: the pre-k slide, I feel like a lot of this teaching more adult topics (specifically ideological topics) at egregiously young ages is the result of seemingly a lot of recent (probably millennial) parents treating their children as equals and adults, instead of having an actual parent child relationship

  • @robertsmall1657
    @robertsmall1657 Місяць тому +1

    Black communities being riddled with crime is somehow a result of over-policing? This is the most hilarious liberal argument ever.
    1. Police aren’t staffed highly in areas unless there is a reason to put them there.
    2. Citizens in the US have an insane amount of rights that prevent unlawful arrests. If the police are arresting you, there is a 99% chance you gave them a good reason to do it.
    3. A jury has to convict you also with the oversight of a judge to go to jail.
    The only way this “over-policing” argument is remotely valid, is if 80% of black men in jail are innocent. And I think it’s reasonable to say at least 90% of people in jail are guilty. That number is impossible to prove however.
    But the reality is that the culture of inner-city black communities breeds higher crime rates for many reasons. Pretending the police are arresting too many people is ridiculous.

  • @westcoastmex629
    @westcoastmex629 Місяць тому

    Horrible that the. US public education system is on a backwards spiral. As a Mexican American i find it very disturbing that our children are truly not being educated . This is why a lot of us have no problem with School segregation. We don’t want are children to be activist we want them to be productive citizens that help the country and society . We want builders not destroyers of civilization

  • @kevinpankanin6222
    @kevinpankanin6222 Місяць тому +4

    State sponsored normalization of sin and debauchery.
    Weimar Republic 2.0

  • @DjangoAV
    @DjangoAV Місяць тому

    Every single of those DEI agencies should be investigated heavily.

  • @Kayakmom9
    @Kayakmom9 Місяць тому

    So glad I only have one more kid going to school. 9th grade

  • @sabinesfamily
    @sabinesfamily Місяць тому +1

    Has Zach read The Bluest Eye? He may need to revisit it.

  • @TheDeadMan79
    @TheDeadMan79 Місяць тому

    Levar Burton, a black man, was the host of Reading Rainbow for years, BYW.

  • @glennmitchell9107
    @glennmitchell9107 Місяць тому +7

    Is it pandering to favor Black history, Black studies, Black literature, etc., perhaps beyond their due? What is the relative importance of Blackness to a particular community's reality? Black topics should be more relevant to communities in the deep South than to communities in the northern plains or the American Southwest. One size does not fit all.

  • @peterbills4129
    @peterbills4129 13 днів тому

    Y'all need to listen to James Lindsay.

  • @Ezekiel336-16
    @Ezekiel336-16 Місяць тому

    If the education system would focus on teaching kids how to think far more than what to think then they wouldn't have all the problems that they do now due to them indoctrinating kids instead of just teaching them. The what to think(s) aren't entirely avoidable though since they are part of social ethics and the expected norms within the culture of our society, but when the what to think(s) aren't overwhelmingly agreed on then they should not be taught and only introduced, if at all, when kids are mature enough to have an unpopular view while remaining respectful and responsible towards one another (i.e. something the teachers don't even really know how to model or live very well on their own inside or outside of school, which is another reason that 'what to thinks' shouldn't be done or they should only be done sparingly with plenty of safeguards).