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Is the 360 Missile the most insane kill we've ever seen on the channel? I think it might be....
Yeah I think the 360 python kill was probably the craziest
P-47 VS MIG-15
How about trying Su30MKI vs Rafael
Rafale VS Gripen Winner VS Typhoon
Best European Plane Tournament!
We want you fly su57 against f-22 please.
LS: That was close, but thankfully it missed
Python 5: How about round 2?
Python 5 in Arnold voice "I'll be bäck!"
@@spitefulwar thats gold
Yeah, I would've loved to have seen that from Longshot's side!
The absolute disrespect from that missile. Lol
israel does not respect anyone (as an israeli)
LS: playing dcs
GS: Playing literally ace combat qaam spam
We need F-16i with Pythons vs X-02S Strike Wyvern with EML.
@@verticalflyingb737 YES
I was sure someone was gonna say it, thankfully I found you
X-02 Wyvern >>> X-02s
Beautiful airplane
So they made the missiles from “Behind Enemy Lines” real now… :)
😂😂 like u dont need an aircraft just shoot the missile and he is gonna handle it
That is somehow creepy ... from the POV of the sensors of the Python, Growling Sidewinder and the Flanker must have swapped position(s), possibly even merging/overlapping for a short moment. Got lucky the missile did not change its mind and lock on to the F-16 ;-)
Who knows how long it actually existed....UFO
@@weasel7581 yes exactly . and i thought a fox 2 or heat seeker will fellow any heat source in front of him not going that far then came back . i think that was a glitch
And Ace Combat.
The QAAM has become reality. 😂
Flanker: "he missed!"
Python: "bitch please"
🤣🤣🤣
Daddy Chill
At this point, LS is a bigger part of the GS channel than his own. But lovin' the crazy shit you guys do together!
I do love the style of longshot's video though
@@michaelhaney9432 yeah same here. He has his own way of doing things and I definitely enjoy it
This seems like the literal definition of what happens when the missile knows where it is.
It only knows where it is by knowing where it isn’t
I’ve been laughing at this post for 10 minutes straight now
“And subtracting where it isn’t, from where it was, or where it was, from where it isn’t, whichever is greater.”
The missile knows where it is just hope to god it won't know where you are
flonkergobrrr
AIM-9X: "I can pull 25g's and turn on a dime."
Python: " Hold my beer "🍺 . . . . . . . . . . . .
Bruh😂
Seems a little OP lol
i heard from my father (an f16i pilot) that the python 5 can pull up to 100g
"Did someone said beer ?"
@@gamingkingdom1146 bruh, nothing can pull that kinda G.
I drove a Mirage for the SADF back in the day and that gives my age away. Love what you boys are doing and keep it up.
Hi! Are you on DCS? If so, what’s your opinion about this simulator?
Sadf ? What is that ?
@@xavierandreumas2332 Energy management, you gain speed too slow and bleed it too quick that would be my criticism. Apart from that - pretty neat. lol you guys can create scenarios that would make any flight lead and wing commander cry.
@@moderate1452 this is true
@@justsmallstuff4994 Don't know about American planes but the 'Cheetah' had more thrust.
6:50 those old school kill cam surely takes me back to early days of this channel! That never gets old man.
"The new style high maneuver missile... what would be the predicted attack spread?" That shit there was Macross Plus level missilery
What do you think is the closest thing we have to the vf-22?
The Python is the Grandfather of the HVMAAM Iin macross.
@@user-mz2yh6qz7y In pure appearance would be the YF-23
I believe the Python 5 accelerated at the end because its trajectory straightened out. Flying a 360 at Mach 1.5 to Mach 2 required a TON of induced drag to get the thing to turn that hard. Once it straightened out she was able to accelerate normally.
And it came out of the turn going downhill. Gravity adding velocity to a very slick airframe.
GS: "That missile is gonna miss..."
Python 5: "Are you sure about that?"
GS, you can use the 'boresight/cage' HOTAS button to directly control the head of your 9X (diamond on the HUD), without the need of FCR lock.
Radar is limited to 60 degrees, while the boresight goes up to 90 degrees, maybe more.
Great video !
“Allow me to reintroduce myself”- Python missile
Ok, F-22 vs python time!
you got that right. LETS SEE IT!
Maybe Su 35 and Rafale too.
That might be interesting, but only because F-22 doesn't have JHMCS.
@@NLozar22 I want to see fight with F-35 , JHMCS , F-35 with 360 degree vision and AIM-9X equiped with thrust vector and datalink and LOAL , I think F-35 it's invincible on fox-2 flights 😁
@@four-dimensionalperson I don't know... F-35 can only carry AIM-9Xs externally which negatively impacts stealth. I'd imagine F-35 is for more potent (by which I mean probably invincible) in BVR.
I think the merge is the only way to make a fight against F-35 at least a little bit competitive, still not that much probably though. So I'd it's BVR where F-35 is pretty much untouchable, rather than fox 2 fight.
The Rafael (same manufacturer of pyton V) I-Derby ER have that capability too, if is launched too close to hit the objective, the missile do turn to lock and engage again
The playback of that first python caused me to say one of the most genuine "Holy shit!" 's of my life. Fun to watch!
The Python took that "he missed" personally
I've been a fan of Python missiles and tried to explain to detractors why it has advantages over thrust vectoring missiles.
When you said your first missiles missed, i knew, i knew that it was going to loop vertically and attack again. That's how the missile was designed
Yep, many don't know that aspect about the Python 4/5 family. That was why it was a finalist in the RAAF WVRAAM contest with the ASRAAM the eventual winner
Would it lock on its firer aircraft by mistake?
@@hippoace It's possible but I believe since the seeker is essentially a super advanced camera with IR contrast lock it would have some sort of sophisticated target discrimination/IFF features but that's just speculation without knowing too much
@@ser43_OLDC cost and limitations
Someday Israeli F-16s will be able to kill a target without guns or missiles. The pilot just looks at you at thinks "Die." And you explode :D
they have already done that. they used a syrian sam to get rid of a russian plane a few months ago. the whining the russians were doing afterwards was epic.
Well, I cant blame them, they just really good pilots
@@fhmen Do you know more details on that story?
Well electronic jamming is in development emp weapons exist too, but you would not see them work till the next world war
@@mindtraveller100 as far as I know they were bombing something in syria, and on the way back they chose a route over the sea and a russian plane on approach to land on their base in syria was in between the israelis and the syrian sam site. the syrians launched on them and the dumbasses hit the russian plane trying to land killing all that were on the plane. russia has some stellar allies :D :D :D
General Chang : "To be....or not... to be"
The disbelief in his voice when the missle looped back for the kill.
As a former F-16 Crew Chief, and a DCC on a “D” family model, I have to say they did a great job with the canopy and accurate look of the Sufa. I am curious if they will ever update it to have someone in the back seat like the F-14. That would be pretty cool.
Yes, they did. I spent 25 years on the flightline in Ft worth/Lockheed and took part in the delivery of these acft. This is spot on !
Growling Sidewinder has begun to dabble in Belkan witchcraft
i think Longhot was even more surprised :D that thing is OP!
3:00 "But the cat came back the very next day, The cat came back, we thought he was a goner But the cat came back; it just couldn't stay away."~
Me: "It came back!"
GS 1 second later: "It came back!"
Holy bejeebus! Love to hear Longshot's audio on that one. Rumor has it that the wayward Python flew to Syria and shot down a SU-57.....
Rumar also say that russia shot down an israeli f35
@@AI.mash01 Yeah, score another kill for the Russian Troll Farm in the basement of a bank building in St Petersburg, Russia.
Interesting thought here, since some types, like the F-22 Raptors, are 100% of the time friendly, bc only the US flies them, I wonder if the Python-5 is currently coded to never engage one? I'm sure that bit of data is something that can be updated, but still, once the radar has ID-ed the type it could provide a meta-IFF response
It's official, F-16s can carry QAAMs, I want this F-16 in the next ace combat
Edit: also, the sun trick was diffused by the Red Baron himself more than a hundred years ago, and it still works surprisingly well
So long as we keep using EM radiation for sensors the Sun is going to keep fking things up for us when we look its way
Longshot: You missed
Python 5: Did I?
Maaaaan poor Longshot. The look on his face when that came back must have been great!
1. It was great seeing the missile on your channel. Like now the missile has really gone famous.
2. I think the missile has two distinct solid fuel engines, so when the first one burns out, the missile's software decides when's a good time to ignite the second one.
Hmm makes me wonder if DCS could be modded into a futuristic sci-fi game.
I want a DCS/Elite Dangerous style crossover more than any other game. BVR fight in Saturn's rings
To say i'm blown away by that Python is an understatement, i was like "wait, WHAT?" 🤯🤪
We HAVE to see LongShot's take on that kill, we just need it 🤣
"And it hit him right in the ass" - Growling Sidewinder 2021
Python 4 and 5 are supposedly pretty crazy, would love them in dcs.
An F-35 with its EODAS, datalink and this missile would be super deadly against any aircraft.
Imagine the 360 degree view and locking system of EODAS acting as a second head seeker for python via datalink from a different angle. That's scary
Those are like the QAAMs (Quick Maneuver Air to Air Missile) from Ace Combat 04!! They would fly back to the target if they missed!
GS: Merges, turns, fires Python.
GS: Returns to base and lands.
Python: continues dogfight on its own with enemy plane.
Flanker: har har, I'm more maneuverable than you f-16 and your missile missed!
F-16: are you sure about that?
OMG GS I HAVE WAITED FOR THIS SOOO LOOONG .. THANKS FOR MAKING F-16I SUFA VIDEO !!!
Free 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸 ☝🏽
Ikr bro samw
@@sinant.3779nooo
sure the python isnt made by Australian defence contractors and the missile is really called the "boomerang"
Now we need video "Israel airforce pilot reacts to: Insane Python-5 360 Degree Kill | DCS |"
Host: What do you call it when you launch a P5 missile, and it gets a 360° kill?
IDF pilot: Tuesday.
@aztec0112 why not Sunday 😂
Python 5 said I didn't hear no bell
Missile: "I didn't miss. I just had to turn around, is all."
I cannot wait for the next funny fails compilation and for this thing to make it’s way in. The screaming goat HAS to come out for that 😂
That python-5 almost hits as hard as racing-W7M.mp3! Lol. Awesome vid 😎! Poor Longshot taking a whooping.
That missile kill reminds me of the scene from Behind enemy lines! So it turns out 360 missiles are possible!
3:18 "it hit him right in the ass", a rare tone of voice of growling sidewinder with a mix of emotions varying from relief to admiration for the missile hitting his opponent in the ass, lolol XD. I am really thankful that the Indian Air Force has bought this missile from Israel, a very useful weapon indeed.
I was amazed that you didn't mention the Python's G load.
Can we just talk about how the python in the 360 kill pulls 50 G’s?!!
I feel many things after witnessing that missile come back and reign supreme.
Imagine this thing against an F-22, you wouldnt even need the maneuverability if you are skilled enough with it.
Flanker: it missed
Python: you have underestimated me
the view of that missile turning from the view of the flanker was genuinely scary. like as the pilot at that point just give up bc what can you even do lol
When you load QAAMs in Ace Combat 7
With that turning back on the target, Python should be considered a loitering munition lol.
The missile woke up and choose violence
360° tracking cones are op af
Python 5 with an HMD is really deadly
The Python 5 knows where it is at ALL times.
Until I see the python do this in real life...not going to believe it. Kool for Sims..
There's footage on YT of a Python 5 doing a 180 to hit a UAV at close range in 2006.
Look up videos of iron dome in Israel shooting down incoming rockets making complete 180 turns on a dime to pick off rockets don’t know what would be so unbelievable about a larger version of that targeting airplanes which is a much larger target
@@dallaswood4117 im not looking up anything. Feel free to post such videos as proof if you feel the need to prove it. Until then... my stance is as stated.
@@ghostrider1827 Here you go: (YT id) JqzXecIRf88
@@ghostrider1827 What's with this bias? What exactly is so unbelievable about this to you? Very reasonable for an advanced missle. I'm sure the US or Russia missles can do the same,or one able to do the same could be developed if they deemed it necessary.
Your utter shock at that first missile doing a 360 was epic. Dumbfounded hahah Great vid🤣
The Python 5 is an absolutely insane missile.
I'd love to learn to play this game with these two as my instructors
Sukhoi: Hah I'll just defeat the missile with some decoys and fancy supermaneuverability...
Python: Hello there I just made a tight loop to take another run at you
Sukhoi: ... What is this, Cold Waters?
Literally went "Oh shit! That's so fucking cool!" when the python came back
Damn Dude, you talk about the Python missile like it's a hot chick walking down the beach!
when you took no scope 360 to a whole new level
Now, i can't imagine what is going to happened in a dogfight (or any short A2A engangement) with this kind of missiles anymore, it's almost like the spec of the aircraft doesn't matter as long as you have this kind of missiles
It will be necessary to make your own kill first against anyone with the Python. In the first round, even if Longshot had killed GS with his first missile, the Python would have killed LS after he killed GS.
It's not realistic though. 360 lock means that it can turn after launch and lock on a target which is locked on by a helmet sight, even behind the launching plane. It can't see behind it, and it shouldn't have the energy to spin like that
My wife is Israeli. I can tell you. They fight just like those python missiles. Right when you think you're safe, they slap you right in the face.
Longshot: I am invincible
Python: were..
So the missile reattacks after it loses the target from the gimbal, reidentifies and diffrentiates the target from the flares and the other f-16? Yeah im reluctanct to beleive it does that in real life....
that missile had so much energy for a 360 wow impressive
GS dude, you've gotta do a F22 VS Python 5 now!
Ok, those Pythons are straight-up terrifying.
Great upload. Perhaps this missile on an F16 against a Rafale or an Su-57?
good work my dude, shared on my fb page!
That Python proves that if you love something, you've got to let it go.
If the feeling is mutual, it will always come right back... right back up your best friend's ass!
Suggestion: Try this vs the F-22.
GS, that was real good thanks, it was a lot more of what I was looking for. All your videos are very good though
That missile be like: I'll be back
When you click on the video hoping to get the first comment, but you realize GS already dropped pinned comment...
pinned comments don't count tho bro.
Next time I'll be ready...
same here.🤣
So true 😂
After watching this engagement wanted to do some other research youtubing the Python 5
Yeah that missle is frightening
Ok...if the missile overshot him and your radar was not on him, how was it still guiding without Rdr or IR? If both your rdr and the missiles seeker are facing away from the bandit, even for a moment, how did it know which way to turn?
It has to have some kind of data to know.
Or was your radar back on him in time? I dont know what just happened but it was awesome!
It's made up. It doesn't work like that in real life, as it needs DL to do that.
The secret sauce is in the seeker.
The Python didn't have some magic "extra propellant". It came out of the 360-degree turn going downhill. I.E. it stopped bleeding energy in the turn, and gravity is adding velocity. That's all.
Frick, that Python 5 looks like the QAAM from Ace Combat 04. Possibly inspired by the Israeli missile?? Would be too cool.
3:45
The missile: knows where it is...
The flanker: бляяяяяядь!!!
That python pulled a jen psaki.
"The missile knows where it is at all times- it knows this, because it knows where it isn't"
Python 5: "my death was, greatly exaggerated."
*"S O , Y O U R T H E P U N K I V E H E A R D A B O U T"*
that quote is from megamind
Simply Amazing!!!!
BTW the first video of the Sufa my remix ;).
Do a teste with the A-darter, its capable of killing a target siting at your 6.
He can't becuse the missile have to lock on the target, it will be possible in the future when fighters will have 360 radars
@@MrDvirpariente It can, because the pilot can use the misile seeker trough his helmet and use the high off boresight of the missile to designate the target, It probably wont reach 180° but It can track in extremely high angles, and about the flying capabilities of the misile it is assured that It can do a 180° turn and reverse its course. The target can be locked after the missile is fired as well.
Ofc i'm not saying that its something doable in 100% of the time or that It is something easy, Just that it's technicaly possible.
@@v1n1c1u55anto5 as far as I know and I know a bit becuse one of my brothers is working for the company how manufacturers the helmet and the for the one how manufacturers the missile... The helmet can't look on to a target but direct the missile after it's was fired, so you basically have to shot the missile into the the air without looking on anything (and I don't know if it's possible) and track backwards
@@MrDvirpariente well, i say only the informativo that was public available, they say it has the capability "look and shoot" where the pilot uses the HMD to lock into the target and shoot the misile. The capability of firing with no target locked yet that you mentioned is called "lock-on after launch" which they say the misile is capable as well. Are you from South africa or Brazil?
This was fun and educational to watch, that crazy epic shot with the missile. Damn!
I just got finished watching your Eagle vs Typhoon video adn was looking for info on the python lmao.
"The Python 4 employs a 6 in diameter rocket motor, a feature it shares with the Archer and the ASRAAM. The long burn motor has a tailored thrust profile to achieve optimal acceleration for close-in closing engagements and high energy for terminal phase homing or end-game engagement. Thrust vectoring is not employed, the missile instead utilises aerodynamic design to achieve a high turn rate throughout the its flight envelope"
That's your endgame acceleration explanation
So F-16i's are capable to carry QAAM's
Missile said: “I dId A fUlL oNe EiGhTy”