One With Nothing also costs 0 dollars. You can't *buy* such power, you have to *earn it* by defeating an owner of the card in a gladiatorial match to the death.
Yeah, it feels odd seeing Mana Drain so high on the list when it has myriad cheaper versions available. Perhaps the 'only consider the price of the original printing' rule for these lists could be replaced by 'take the lowest price of all printings' as I feel like that is the price most players care about. 'How much would I have to pay if I wanted a copy of this card,' not 'What is the priciest version of this card?'
Using only newest versions of cards would not give you a good idea of the value of the cards as new sets are depressed for macro reasons that go well beyond Magic's gamer community and also undervalued cards and sets may increase in value greatly because their power level is off the charts. In the meantime a normal event like a reprint or a banning could destroy all the data on newer versions. Original versions that are highly prized after rotation when they are not wanted for standard (because a standard player wants them cheap) would reflect a cards ability to retain value and be used to tell how much people are willing to pay to play old formats. New printings prices are as informative about value as they are about whether the card can be destroyed in game or not: new cards invalidate all claims. Put another way: you'd rather go by collector value because that's actually what the value is. This usually advantages older sets but if a card only exists in a special printing then it makes sense that some new promo sets could make a new card valuable.
Mana drain is a great counter spell but what you’re going to be countering isn’t normally going to fetch you much if your opponent knows you have 1 or more in your deck.
It's a bit weird to look at the original printing, instead of the cheapest version. Mana Drain, for example, is less than $40 for the most recent printing. An Alpha version of Fog beats out most of the cards on this list.
Funny you make this video today, since last night I was updating some of my commander decks in Moxfield and happened to notice Mindbreak Trap was like 60, which is crazy.
I think these most expensive lists would be neat if you listed the cheapest available normal version of that card, too (so Unlimited for the #1 cards). You could also make these lists where you only look at the cards whose cheapest versions are the most expensive (that have been printed two or more times). It would be more work, but not massively more.
Once again, I cry at the number of cards I used to have but were given away by a relative. I wasn't a fan of control decks back when but I had most of 1-5.
2:45, hahaha yay Romance of the Three Kingdoms card! You’re essentially just paying for the art at that point hehehehe, that card would be a much cooler land or artifact if it were printed today.
Fun fact, I am actually one of the least expensive instants in Magic: The Gathering. Mostly because my only effect is to ask for "Top 10 Vintage Cards (Minus Power 9)"!
#3 is interesting. You’ve often said that cards that give your opponent a choice about what you do are not good, but this one seems like it can work to the player’s advantage.
there's a big difference between your opponent choosing between one option thats good for them and one thats bad for them (as they'll always choose the one thats good for them), and making them "chose" between three bad options. intuition is mostly used to just make them chose between three copies of the same card, making the choice moot, or to choose between 3 cards that are great for the player if they're in the hand or the grave. even in the worst case scenario, you get one card you really wanted in your hand and thin your deck by 2, which is infinitly stronger than your opponent choosing to sacrifice a creature they dont have etc in most modal spells your opponent choses the mode of
Honestly if I was making a most valuable________ card type in magic. I would exclude reserved list cards due to being artificially scarce due to WOTC's knee jerk reaction back in the day. I would have them in their own list(s). That said Nizzahon is awesome.
@@NizzahonMagic I paused when I read Sorcery, and then made my comment haha, instantly after it played again you explained it and I laughed even harder
Hurkyl's Recall shouldn't be there. Yeah, the original legends one is pretty expensive but you have a ton of reprints for a couple of bucks. The other cards either are the only version that exist or even the cheapest version is equally stupid expensive.
This is why we set rules for things, and under those rules, explained clearly at the start of the video, Hurkyl's recall qualifies. If you feel like doing such a video under your own rules, you have your own youtube channel, rathet than berating someone on how they provide you free content.
Mind break trap is a bad card, it’s another one of those that’s good in tournament’s and reads good but nobody is going to want to play against you in a casual game with a card like that. Man Hurkyll’s recall, haven’t seen that in a long time. Intuition is so freakin’ good, the game just got so good with the rath cycle. I don’t think they really thought intuition through when they printed it and it’s one of those that is worth the price to get 4.
There are A LOT of limiters on Shallow Grave, but for what it cost that is ESSENTIAL. But, MAYBE Reserving it is a bit much? This would have been great RARE or even UNCOMMON in a Graveyard/Sacrifice focused army type.
Literally just had this idea: now that your doing stuff for EDH/Commander, what about a "Best New Commander" list? Im currently working on a Selesnya Hydra deck with Pul... ok i cant remember his who name; but you HAVE to lnow who im referring too. There are some cards produced PURELY for a spacific format, so lets lean into it MORE!
Intuition IS a card that needs to be Reserved. There are SO MANY decks that use the Graveyards and rely on having stocked and same name/spacific named cards in the Graveyard or your Hand. Its no wonder its almost 200$!
Most expensive cards list: *exists*
Portal Three Kingdoms: "now this looks like a job for me"
My best friend used to play a mono-red Commander deck and would fork the first ramp spell another player played, which always made me smile.
I'd say I'm surprised One with Nothing isn't on this list, but according to an unnamed person who makes a lot of Top 10 videos, it is a sorcery.
One With Nothing also costs 0 dollars. You can't *buy* such power, you have to *earn it* by defeating an owner of the card in a gladiatorial match to the death.
It does allow for a turn 1 feasting trollking
Same for Yargle.
@@TheGloriousLobsterEmperor That would be less dangerous than facing someone who runs Teeka's Dragon
@@cax1175 Oh yeah, nobody defeats a Teeka's Dragon user.
Those “free” commander spells should’ve become a card they print in every commander deck.
Mana Drain might be $200 in Legends, but it's been reprinted in Iconic Masters, Commander Legends, and Double Masters, where it's around $40 instead.
Yeah, it feels odd seeing Mana Drain so high on the list when it has myriad cheaper versions available. Perhaps the 'only consider the price of the original printing' rule for these lists could be replaced by 'take the lowest price of all printings' as I feel like that is the price most players care about. 'How much would I have to pay if I wanted a copy of this card,' not 'What is the priciest version of this card?'
@@networkzanimex hence why he prefaced all the terms for how cards prices were determined, as this only includes original printings.
Using only newest versions of cards would not give you a good idea of the value of the cards as new sets are depressed for macro reasons that go well beyond Magic's gamer community and also undervalued cards and sets may increase in value greatly because their power level is off the charts.
In the meantime a normal event like a reprint or a banning could destroy all the data on newer versions.
Original versions that are highly prized after rotation when they are not wanted for standard (because a standard player wants them cheap) would reflect a cards ability to retain value and be used to tell how much people are willing to pay to play old formats.
New printings prices are as informative about value as they are about whether the card can be destroyed in game or not: new cards invalidate all claims.
Put another way: you'd rather go by collector value because that's actually what the value is.
This usually advantages older sets but if a card only exists in a special printing then it makes sense that some new promo sets could make a new card valuable.
Mana drain is a great counter spell but what you’re going to be countering isn’t normally going to fetch you much if your opponent knows you have 1 or more in your deck.
It's a bit weird to look at the original printing, instead of the cheapest version. Mana Drain, for example, is less than $40 for the most recent printing. An Alpha version of Fog beats out most of the cards on this list.
Top ten sideboard only .
It would be fun
(Feel free to tell me to stop asking if it's annoying)
He wouldn't anyways because comments boost the rating of his channel. Your opinions and ideas are valued, even if not immidiately used.
Funny you make this video today, since last night I was updating some of my commander decks in Moxfield and happened to notice Mindbreak Trap was like 60, which is crazy.
I think these most expensive lists would be neat if you listed the cheapest available normal version of that card, too (so Unlimited for the #1 cards). You could also make these lists where you only look at the cards whose cheapest versions are the most expensive (that have been printed two or more times). It would be more work, but not massively more.
This is one Top Ten where the most expensive card was glaringly obvious.
Maybe they would have, had not 2 (or 3 of them) being overwhelimg powerful. They did reprint the white one.
There is also 4th Edition black border where you can find the Recall with this art.
Once again, I cry at the number of cards I used to have but were given away by a relative. I wasn't a fan of control decks back when but I had most of 1-5.
2:45, hahaha yay Romance of the Three Kingdoms card! You’re essentially just paying for the art at that point hehehehe, that card would be a much cooler land or artifact if it were printed today.
the perfect videos for "dang i used to own that" feels
Would you/have you done a top ten invitational winner designed cards list?
Hurkyls Recall is also available as foreign black bordered, drastically reducing the price.
Hurkyl's recall has been reprinted a lot of times. Other than the original legends one, you can get any version for a couple of bucks.
@@aritzmartinezrodriguez1825 True, but if you want a black border print there is only antiquities and FBB
@@mrhaftbar 10th Edition was black bordered
@@SketchyTinkerer true, but not with the original art.
Fun fact, I am actually one of the least expensive instants in Magic: The Gathering. Mostly because my only effect is to ask for "Top 10 Vintage Cards (Minus Power 9)"!
#3 is interesting. You’ve often said that cards that give your opponent a choice about what you do are not good, but this one seems like it can work to the player’s advantage.
Intuition is never a real choice, since you can search for three copies of the same card.
there's a big difference between your opponent choosing between one option thats good for them and one thats bad for them (as they'll always choose the one thats good for them), and making them "chose" between three bad options. intuition is mostly used to just make them chose between three copies of the same card, making the choice moot, or to choose between 3 cards that are great for the player if they're in the hand or the grave. even in the worst case scenario, you get one card you really wanted in your hand and thin your deck by 2, which is infinitly stronger than your opponent choosing to sacrifice a creature they dont have etc in most modal spells your opponent choses the mode of
That "this sorcery is actually an instant" thing was so confusing lol
It is a sorcery whose text describes that it is played as an instant.
why is this channel so small now when its still just as good?
I don't think its smaller than it used to be.
Great video, as usual. Are draft videos gonna return to your channel?
Yes
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In all honestly thanks for everything you do Niz! You make me want to be a UA-camr
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Honestly if I was making a most valuable________ card type in magic. I would exclude reserved list cards due to being artificially scarce due to WOTC's knee jerk reaction back in the day. I would have them in their own list(s). That said Nizzahon is awesome.
Noice, I own Cyclonic Rift, Mindbreak Trap, n Force of Will. :3
For episode 613 do the top 10 jewish cards! Leviathan, malach of dawn, candelabra of tawnos... a golem maybe? Hebrew Glory? You can find the rest.
Hmm, 1 card or a AAA game on Steam? Mtg players: give me 4
Number 9 was a sorcery not an instant 😂
Guess you didn't listen to the video.
@@NizzahonMagic I paused when I read Sorcery, and then made my comment haha, instantly after it played again you explained it and I laughed even harder
Woot woot!!
Hurkyl's Recall shouldn't be there. Yeah, the original legends one is pretty expensive but you have a ton of reprints for a couple of bucks. The other cards either are the only version that exist or even the cheapest version is equally stupid expensive.
This is why we set rules for things, and under those rules, explained clearly at the start of the video, Hurkyl's recall qualifies. If you feel like doing such a video under your own rules, you have your own youtube channel, rathet than berating someone on how they provide you free content.
Mind break trap is a bad card, it’s another one of those that’s good in tournament’s and reads good but nobody is going to want to play against you in a casual game with a card like that. Man Hurkyll’s recall, haven’t seen that in a long time. Intuition is so freakin’ good, the game just got so good with the rath cycle. I don’t think they really thought intuition through when they printed it and it’s one of those that is worth the price to get 4.
Alternative title. 10 instants that need reprints
Blaze of Glory from Alpha is $1500
Sure is. But I only include the three most expensive from a single set, as I said in the intro. Otherwise this whole list would be Alpha instants.
There are A LOT of limiters on Shallow Grave, but for what it cost that is ESSENTIAL. But, MAYBE Reserving it is a bit much?
This would have been great RARE or even UNCOMMON in a Graveyard/Sacrifice focused army type.
Literally just had this idea: now that your doing stuff for EDH/Commander, what about a "Best New Commander" list?
Im currently working on a Selesnya Hydra deck with Pul... ok i cant remember his who name; but you HAVE to lnow who im referring too. There are some cards produced PURELY for a spacific format, so lets lean into it MORE!
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Intuition IS a card that needs to be Reserved. There are SO MANY decks that use the Graveyards and rely on having stocked and same name/spacific named cards in the Graveyard or your Hand.
Its no wonder its almost 200$!
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