William Shatner On His Fallout with Leonard Nimoy | The Meredith Vieira Show
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- William Shatner still regrets the fact that he and Leonard Nimoy never reconciled before his passing and opens up about the Star Trek tribute he organized to honor Nimoy's legacy.
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It's likely that Nimoy cut himself off from people, including Shatner, simple because he didn't want his friends remembering him as frail and sick. It's a reaction that many people with a lingering illness have.
Not uncommon .
My mom has done the same in the last year of her life, she didn't want her friends to see what cancer has done to her... so it's very understandable, to want to be remembered at your best and not your worst...
Nimoy cut him off because Shatner was doing a documentary on "The Captains" (of the Enterprise) and wanted Nimoy to be apart of it. Nimoy was getting ill and didn't want to be filmed. Shatner kept trying to talk him into it, and then secretly filmed him without his permission. When Nimoy found out, he was pissed and that was that; or at least that what I heard.
@@oboogie2 that's just fans loving to bitch about Shatner, unless you heard it from Nimoy personally then its all bullshit
I agree (about Nimoy wanting to be remembered at his best not worst).
I met Bill in Hollywood. He used to frequent the restaurant where I was a cook. Once I brought him his salad-to-go, and when I gave it to him I put out my hand and just said, "Big fan" with a smile. He instantly put down his salad and took my hand and vigorously shook it, and then engaged me in normal conversation without pretense for a few minutes. I'm no betazoid, but I felt nothing but humble and generous human qualities from him, he was genuinely happy to talk to some random chef in a restaurant for no reason at all. All actors have a job to do and it takes a certain kind of personality. All actors in Hollywood are adversarial unless they are very good friends and they all talk shit about each other constantly. I liked Bill, he's a decent fellow. He always came to our little cheese shop for a salad and always tipped well. I don't believe any bullshit gossip about him.
Me either, sure he probably was a hard ass and demanded the best stuff for him but he always delivered the best and he seems more real than the rest.
@@darthbane2669 Certainly more real than Takei. Shatner talked things through with Walter Koenig and they made peace.
I have only heard good things from him and Nimoy by his fans.
The two were the best character persons to get fandom. They seemed to really enjoy both make fun of it and revel in it in good ways.
Better them than a lot of us... I don't know if I would like that type of attention... but then again I'm an introvert. I would die a little inside having people notice me, even if they didn't bug me for an autograph or anything.
These guys seemed to use it to live longer and make others feel better.
Good decent people who found reveled and one still does in their lives.
That's a good story thank you for sharing that in a little bit of insight into his character that's for sure.
Thank you for sharing this! Day to day regular interactions with people tell the truth of anyone’s character. One appalling so-called “Hollywood celebrity” example: Ellen Degeneres unleashed unjustified anger to a waitress for having the audacity of letting Ellen’s eyeballs see her nail polish that was chipped from working too hard! The waitress lost her job over Ellen’s complaint to the restaurant’s manager! Everyone is human. No one is perfect. So just be TRULY decent and nonjudgmental to all you meet.
"I have been and always shall be your friend"
"Of my friend, I can only say this. Of all the souls i have encountered in my travels, his was the most.... Human"
Well, almost always.
live long, and prosper
I'm not normally a "crier", but I teared up during that scene.
Some people just don't care about friendships. And it really hurts when you don't even know what you have done.
"Of all the souls I have encountered in my travels, his was the most...human."
NOOOOO : C
And he played that scene so very well. Touches me every time, especially if you think about their real life friendship.
Being Scottish, it was, for me, the most powerful star trek scene.
Not only did it capture the grief losing a lifelong friend, it also exemplifies respect & true friendship across differences. When Scotty started playing Amazing Grace with his bagpipes.....
I paused a moment, realized how very short and fragile life is. I truly realized my friends and family were my
treasure.
I will always think of Bill & Lenard as exemplars of what good men can be. I loved what both men represent and, in my heart, both are equally honored.
What about BONES!!!!
@@hansjuker8296 yes. What about Deforest Kelly?
Beautifully said.
Whether they were close friends or not, there is no question in my mind that Shatner and Nimoy made Star Trek happen - along with the rest of the regular cast.
I agree, with the addition of the crusty Kelley!!
They were very close friends. I think once his health issues came into play he became distant. Also, if William Shatner had known about the Assisted Death he most likely would've tried to talk him out of it.
My father used to say" don't visit me during. my funeral service, visit me when I am alive so I can see you and shared a wonderful communication"
don't see people when alive and then remember when the person dies. when my mother died i requested no flowers except what the family put on top of her coffin and people ask why not.
Mr. Shatner is an excellent interviewer. I remember he had Mr. Nimoy on his interview show at Nimoy's home and asked him if he would have ever had such a beautiful home if there was never a Star Trek. Leonard said no and that it was all possible because of the show and he learned to tolerate fans who insisted as addressing him as Mr. Spock.
Nimoy was such an iconic actor. I really loved seeing him act again in fringe.
I read that Shatner said of L Nimoy " I love him and admire him " That remains with me..
The greatest bromance in tv history.
"He's not really dead if we find a way to remember him."
When JESUS is our Lord and Savior, we will die and go to heaven! It is a joy to know my "loved ones in Christ have gone to eternal LIFE"!!!
@@suzannebenz8928 I completely agree with your comment, but I was quoting a line from the movie
Shat has raised millions for charities over the years. He is a good man. He's not arrogant anymore than other actors. He's been around forever. Cut him slack
anymore
@@matthewronson5218 consider the source
@@matthewronson5218 he still works. Takei doesn't. End of story
Great great actor love this guy
I like Shatner. I don't see arrogance now. I see a man trying to reconcile with many people, trying to find out what he's done to cause grief, and he is 85 and tireless. Appears at many functions and charities. Keeps busy and looks healthy.
I don't think he had a falling out with Nimoy. The COPD overtook Nimoy. My husband also had COPD. The disease is terrible when the complications arise. We try to protect our husbands so that the rest of the world does not see them in this weakened state. My hubby, who was also an entertainer passed away from the same thing as Nimoy only a couple of weeks later. He was unable to speak to many of his friends the last year of his life. Many people came to the funeral and there were a few who should have been there but if there was a commitment of course they could not attend. Shatner committed to appear at an important event but did his best to have someone at Nimoy's funeral to represent him. I truly believe they were good friends and now as Shatner is in his mid 80s, I applaud him for truly reaching out to not only continue to entertain us but to try to leave behind a legacy as a good person. I think we know more about Shatner's life that we do of our own friends around us. So what if he has an ego.
Lea Dakis
Lea Dakis Read his twitter account. He is an angry man.
After Star Trek made Shatner a famous celebrity. Shatner became a pompous stuck up jerk! During the Star Trek conventions, Shatner didn't allow any of the co stars take the stage with him. Shatner only allowed Nimoy to stand with him on stage. The co stars always mentioned about Shatners arrogance. And also that Shatner was very controlling on the Star Trek series. Shatner was a great choice for Star Trek. However, Shatner is a worthless pile of trash as a sub humanoid!
Roger Dodger I've read his Twitter account and no, he isn't an angry man. However, he is constantly attacked by imbeciles like you who think i's fun to troll him hoping for a reaction. Shatner is an icon. Who are you, internet nobody?
excelsciors All you are repeating is hearsay, you poor excuse for a human.
Shatner is a wonderful and generous man with his charity work. My heart goes out to him on the loss of his friendship and colleague.
Both great actors William was and still a legend and Leonard was also a legend to me Mr Spook was best ever main reason why i loved Star trek. So sad to think they were no longer friends in the end i guess as time goes on you drift apart.
RIP Leonard you always be a legend to millions.
Respect to you William and Leonard. Star Trek the original was the greatest TV series of all time.
He's 85 and looks like he could pass for a "tired" 59.
yortko1 so true. I had to google his real age - unbelievable!
yortko1 Still a full head of hair...
Pablo Nino Nathanael Stoop Not his real hair nor has it been for a long time
Well, it's a damn good toupe' - you can see his scalp through it.
He's such a bull shitter lol
Bill Shatner is clearly a remarkable person who has learned some hard-earned lessons in Life.
We are all fallible and we are all learning.
Give the guy a break and appreciate him for what he has done and the things he has come through for the better.
Shatner & Nimoy created one of the most remarkable & enduring character-friendships in all of TV and film.
Love Shatner since I was a kid and always will ..He's a good guy .
@Jim A trust me, he's done far more good for the less fortunate than you ever will. So take whatever you think you know about him and shove it, cause that's all it's good for.
You do know the guy killed his wife right?
Better thant he assholes like George who keep ranting hatred at him when he cant even defend himself. Shatner scotty and deforest "bones" I feel were the best. They didn't go all political and outright attack Bill later in life.
he never get old man voice...amazing....sounds essentially like he did 50 years ago
Nimoy was dying and had a lot to consider and do. Who knows how communicative he was able to be. There was no argument, just a sudden loss of contact. People just like to hate on Shatner. Look at the selfie photo. Yeh, that's very indicative of the jerk people say Shatner is.
Also, Shatner doesn't say horrible things about George Takei even though Takei says some pretty bad stuff about Shatner and has for decades. Shatner made up with Walter Koenig. Sure Shatner has an ego, but he has acknowledged it and made amends.
Well done William Shatner, you made a sincere effort to honor your old friend, even after time and distance, and perhaps some hurt feelings had come between the two of you. Actions speak louder than words, Mr. Shatner is a good, but imperfect man doing his best to spread a little kindness in his later years. His sincerity is genuine.
He has truly showed his true beautiful colors
Bullshit he chose attend a function with that POS Trump. over his dear friends funeral. Shatner is an asshole.
So much joy and happiness brought by the Original Star Trek cast. Love em all!
Wow, what a very, beautiful way to remember Mr. Nimoy's life and passing. Spock was and always will be, my all time favourite character in the Trek franchise, and utterly, irreplaceable.
Undieing Love, Good Sir. Forever, Rest In Peace.
My Trek Best. Out. \V/
I’m 57, and me and my cousin grew up on Star Trek...
We both loved the show and played ‘Star Trek’ as kids!
We both wanted to play the role of Kirk, but I gave into him and let him play it...
No wonder we wanted to be Kirk...any kid did...William Shatner did a fantastic job of playing the role!!!
Brief aside: we had an Enterprise model that my cousin put together for me, and we took it outside with us to play ‘Star Trek’
The original series Star Trek in the 60s was the best of all the ‘Star Trek’, and I truely believe that William Shatner was the one that made that difference!!! 😎
man.. that's just sad. I wished they stayed friends until the end. Their friendship on screen seemed genuine
well, at least they act good.
He didn't have to attend his funeral, for he attended it in the "Wrath of Khan".
Shatner's "hair" looks more authentic than it did when he was on T.J. Hooker. Hell, the guy is pushing 90.
He was 51 when he made that show.
i heard he is as bald as a cue ball...
@@Tom24112 He is, so was John Wayne, so is Tom Selleck....I'm going to open a toupee store in LA!
@@Gamble661 Top quality costs several thousand a month. Shatner's gets talked about more than other famous men's because for part of his career he was making a lot of appearances but not a lot of money.
@@MagicAl5F4781 Several thousand a month?? I think it's time to execute my plan!
I never said I thought Shatner's didn't look ok, it's never looked cheesy to me. I think if you watch old appearances by John Wayne sometimes it was apparent with him but back then the techniques probably weren't as good not matter how much money you had.
Love Shatner. Wonderful man and a wonderful actor, too.
Meredith Vieira is so hot, pretty, and beautiful; she is also sweet, lovely, and flawless; such a guardian angel and true blessing!
Both men were at opposite ends of the political spectrum but were great friends for decades.Till what ever happened happened. That should be a lesson for everyone. Now days if you disagree with someone you get throat ripped out sometimes. He looks obviously upset. Age and realizing your own mortality does that to most. Not a criticism or condemnation of anyone just one man's opinion. To Shatner and Nimoy I say Tks for the great art and example. Bless.
Shatner is not a Republican ot Conservative.
@@anthonylogiudice9215 He doesn't tend to talk about any political material either, to his credit. He's not interested in stuff like that. According to Shatner and a few people, the alleged fallout happened after Shatner did The Captains documentary. Nimoy didn't want to be involved with it at all, for whatever reason, and asked Shatner to keep him out of it. Shatner went behind his back and had Nimoy go through what Nimoy believed to be an interview but it was actually material that they knew they were going to use for The Captains. That was the alleged breaking point where Nimoy allegedly said he had had enough of Shatner's antics and their relationship fell apart.
Now what Shatner did was kind of shitty. To his credit, he has acknowledged that he didn't handle that situation the best way, and he regrets that their relationship fell apart in Nimoy's final years. Shatner wanted to be there for Nimoy. I don't think he truly understood why Nimoy was so upset and he wanted to talk about it and figure out a way to make amends for it. Shatner tried to reach out to him several times, but Nimoy never contacted him again.
You can tell that it is one of Bill's biggest regrets to where it still hurts him that their relationship fell apart in Nimoy's final years. He clearly misses Nimoy a great deal and he wishes he could still see Nimoy again. You can tell just talking it about it on this video is bringing him to tears. This is not a man who didn't care that Nimoy died. I think he just handled it his own way: going to the funeral was just something that was going to break him, he would have to accept that Nimoy is gone and he clearly still hasn't accepted that fact (can't blame him) and he wanted to do something good and do something in Nimoy's honor in his own way. So anyone saying that Shatner doesn't care about Nimoy is clearly wrong. That is something that no matter how flawed Shatner is, you can't question how much he truly loves Nimoy.
@@anthonylogiudice9215 I suspect you might be wrong about that.
@@eq1373 You have a lot of New Deal liberals (many of them now in their 80s and 90s) like Shatner who do not like the SJW woke crowd. But, he is a liberal nevertheless. Just watch his interview he did with conservative Rush Limbaugh 10 years ago or so. Shatner disagreed with him on every policy point.
Trump told him he helped raise millions for “charity” - yeah, Trump’s “charity” - the one he was forced to close and banned from ever opening up another scam charity again.
🥴🤢🤮🤑
This cast was like a family. Some don't care to stay in touch. Some people bond. They fight they make up. Sometimes things just happen
Family often break up or friends. Sadly I have very little in relation with either I have a select few I feel free to be myself around, the rest come off as liberals who will attaack and judge you on social media. Nimoy was the liberal and betrayed them.
@@darthbane2669 wow you turned it political
Mr Shatner spoke so kindly...i'm very proud of him. God Bless you both.
One should keep in mind that Nimoy was Jewish, and it is Jewish law or tradition that the body be buried within 24 hours, Sabbath excepted. He died Feb 27, 2015, and was buried two days later, a Sunday. That doesn't give much time, at least not as much as some would think if they did not know this. No, it didn't make it impossible for Bill to make it to the funeral, but it's not like weeks or months went by.
Kinda reminds me of a similar story where a man by the name of Thomas, missed out on the burial of his best friend. It took Tom a week later to visit his friend's burial, only to be surprised that his friend was still alive.
Except that story is primitive mythology.
Go to hell, anti-semite.
You are absolutely correct!!!
Shatner is Jewish too. Jews are required to sit Shiva when someone close dies. And absolutely attend a funeral.
Nimoy explained. He didn’t want to be a part of a star trek captains video Shatner was doing. He thought that Shatner had him videoed as an interview, but was really guys taping him for Shatner’s video. So Nimoy said that he had it with Shatner’s games.
Do you know where I could find that revelation from Nimoy? thanks!
Leonard Nimoy also spent a lot of his final months (last couple of years) primarily in his home, due to his failing health, not going out or seeing really anyone but family. I believe it was his widow who said this, she even elaborated that they stopped going to their cabin further north (Tahoe?) because it was at a higher elevation and Nimoy found it difficult to breathe, so they'd go to their cabin and he'd be stuck inside on oxygen. He really suffered greatly in his final years. Maybe it's easier for Shatner to say he doesn't really know - maybe he actually doesn't, as Nimoy never told him directly, he just ghosted him. Either way it's unfortunate. Love is funny, you don't always have to like each other, but perhaps Nimoy still loved him, he just had other priorities.
@@narf8107 My mom died of COPD and we used to go up to Lake Tahoe for vacation when I was a kid. I can vouch that she felt terrible when we went up to that higher altitude after her disease progressed. Her lungs just couldn't handle it. I'm glad I never took up smoking!
Catmom2004 Shatner’s book about Leonard.
That seems reasonable to me. Some people, they can be friends, but they only see you when they have some reason, they want something ... they take energy to deal with. I would say Shatner to me seems high maintenance as a real friend. Sure he can turn on the charm in an interview, same with Donald Trump ... some coincidence huh, but they cannot be friends because they are always scamming something - but they don't see that as bad either.
Oh my goodness, how tragic. Don't feel bad, Mr. Shatner. I've just had a 20 yr friend that nursed me back to health when I was sick, I mean the whole route. He just walked out of my life. He was not angry at me but I don't know where he is or if he's alive. You see he's 30 yrs my senior. We had a great friendship. He was my landlord at one time. We took over the property and he became the tenant. In the beginning, we sat by the fire, had goodies, watched movies, then I would just go upstairs to my place. I'll always love him. Anyway, we have all the Star Trek on CDs and I think Mr. Nimoy is one of the most handsome men that EVER came to this earth. When he took off that German helmet I actually gasped at how lovely he looked. Love you too, Mr. Shatner. Thank you for all the wonderful Star Trek you guys did. You were perfect as captain. XXXOOO
Some people when they are not doing well, they just want to hide and stop communicating, it's nobody's fault. They just need to be on their own.
Moneca Savoie...Yeah, I bet that's what it was. Mr. Nimoy probably just wanted to be alone and didn't want to tell his friend to stay away (didn't want to hurt Mr. Shatner's feelings).
Be nice if Meredith allowed bill to finish his thoughts...
Brianna T she should have said, “Is that your final answer?” LOL
Bill wasn't good on Million Dollar Passwords, Meredith should have been the contestant on that episode.
THANK YOU.. Shut her pie hole let him speak .& take your time
?? all she's doing is obsequiously following a pattern of prearranged 'talking points' agreed in advance with Shatner and his agent I would guess
Talk show hosts do it to keep things progressing. It's rude but somtimes needed since they don't want a show where the whole time slot is used up discussing one thing. At least she isn't doing it for narcissistic reasons like Ellen does where she constantly has to place herself in the story or force herself to be relevant to the guests story almost every time with interruptions like 'Yes! I was just saying that to my wife in our nice house.' or 'Yeah I do that too! That's why I love doing this show.' etc etc etc.
Remember, shatner is the good guy... As long as you ignore pretty much everyone he worked with on Star Trek. Even on his own show, Walter calls him out for being a brute. Nichols has called him out, Takei, and eventually Nimoy wanted nothing to do with him.
It's not 'everyone else,' it's him.
The only Sci Fi series were the actors touched my heart .
Leave the man alone. He's not perfect. Who is? Nimoy wasn't. None of the folk on STtOS was. We all do unpleasant things throughout our lives.
Very true, well said. Shatner is probably the most criticised actor of all time. George Takei, was accused of sexually assaulting a former model in 1981 (historical allegations - innocent until proven guilty) and later made an embarrassing joke about it.
Lenord Nimoy was a star before Shatner. Little one. And better than Shatner. He was a friend of Leonard `s before his (obligation) He is the most sanctimonious person in the country.
@@colleenpayton1130 who knows the truth.
@@andrewdock7288 what do you mean
imho what is all boils down to is life is too short not to talk to one another.
It is a terrible shame that the cast really didn't all get along as portrayed in the TV series / movies, as a child of the 60s they were like family to me the reality just makes me sad.
That's life. Hollywood is fake.
Have you never worked with a total a-hole?
Well, Paul Darrow, remember that some of the fiercest squabbles occur between family members.
Paul Darrow wait till u work with lazyg dipshits orazy a mangers
Well look at it this way: It's a tribute to their great professionalism that they managed to maintain a high standard of production even with co-stars they hated!
Shatner is such a consumate professional, and the one true Kirk. He is my hero.
I like William Shatner . He is a wonderful actor. He is a wonderful actor, playing Captain James T Kirk on every Star Trek series . I watch every one of the Star Trek pictures.
Sometimes you just let contact with someone drift due to an accumulation of little things, none of which matter individually, but cumulatively they can make it so life's just easier if you don't interact. In cases like that, actually sitting down to discuss it would likely cause friction rather than resolve anything. Doesn't mean that you don't still like the person in a lot of ways, and have a lot of shared history with them, just that you know each other so well you know how the conversation would play out in advance.
The hand signal Nimoy used comes from the Hebrew letter 'shin' and from a Hebrew prayer. Nimoy remembered seeing it when he was a child. As for the feud, Nimoy liked attention he didn't like sharing the spotlight. Unfortunately, he allowed it to come between a friendship. None of us is perfect. Star Trek will always be a favorite of mine. The show gave to me, and I learned from it, as well as the actors themselves. I particularly admired Nichelle Nichols, and had the honor of meeting her; we had a nice conversation- she was so kind to me.
You think Nimoy liked attention more than Shatner?
@@justgivemethetruth they both did, Shatner still..However, after reading about Nimoy and watching documentaries, he worked very hard to get and keep attention, often taking lines away from other actors.
@@michellegulden1052
That is a really dishonest and untrue thing to say. You must be being paid by Shatner or related to him. William Shatner was famous for hogging the camera and re-writing lines to make his part bigger. You hear that all over the place, but you never hear it about Nimoy. That is really creepy, Shatner trolling a guy in death to make his image better ... no wonder Nimoy secretly hated him.
@@justgivemethetruth you're incredibly immature
@@michellegulden1052
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Shatner even wrote another one of his boring books admitting how bad he handled the cast of Star Trek.
I believe that sending his daughters to the funeral was a very nice thing to do in his stead. He clearly could not attend the funeral. I'm sure that Leonard Nimoy, being a kind and good person that he was, would feel the same way.
I think William Shatner is still a great man and everybody makes mistakes and sometimes one doesn't know what went wrong. That's not a William Shatner exclusive.
Not a Shatner exclusive but because many are self-centered doesn't make it right. Bullies love to claim that they don't know or don't remember how they hurt someone. And if he doesn't know by now, Shatner's being willfully ignorant.
Well, why don''t you give us your personal knowledge of what Shatner did to "bully" anyone?
Well said!!
I love Star Trek TOS. These guys were great together.
There are good ships, there are star ships, there are ships that sail the sea. But the best ships are friendships, and may they always be.
Oof.
I know COPD can leave its victims very incapacitated, literally gasping for air as they depend on a constant flow from an oxygen tank. Nimoy's last appearances in the new series of Star Trek films required much computer effects to digitally erase the breathing tubes from his face and recreate his mouth movements to match his prerecorded, foleyed-in dialog. And that was when he was more than a year from the end. Some COPD patients are initially mobile (with help from a power chair) but eventually most become bedridden. It's an embarrassing end, totally lacking in dignity. I have heard Nimoy withdrew from many friends in the last months of his illness because of his feeble state and appearance. Johnny Carson (who also died from COPD) backed off from all but his closest family in a similar manner.
My gf's dad is in the process of dying. It has been excruciating for months now. A horribly undignified state of being. It saddens me deeply that we have a whole process, well worked out, for bringing people into this world, for maintaining them while they're in this world, but not for easing them out of it. We as a civilization have not come to terms with this and sadly we all face the prospect of being agonized for the last part of our life when we again are at our most vulnerable. Saddens me deeply.
Dario impini. Hi. I just wanted to offer condolences for what you are going through. Went through it a year ago and it can be very lonely and isolating. Please, god bless you and your family.
@@jime6688 Thank you kindly sir. It's a hard experience even to watch it second hand.
Dario Impini yes, it is. Please, don’t take this in a creepy way, but if you need to talk and don’t have an outlet, please hit me up.
@@darioinfini Switzerland is the one country with a very active hospice 'culture'. A lot of people who want to end their lives with dignity go to switzerland, but its obviously expensive. Here in Canada we just got legalized 'assisted death' but its still at the beginning stages with doctors and nurses, especially in religious hospitals, often over ruling the wishes of patients and their families. Meanwhile I've hardly talked to a person that hasn't dealt with a relative dying a horrible death while they were forced to stand by and could do nothing to help.
William Shatner looks incredibly good for a man 84 years old. Absolutely amazing. He could pass for someone in Their late 50s....
@Poklando I disagree
No worries, he comes back in Trek III.
Leonard Nimoy explained that he borrowed that hand sign 🖖🏼 from a Jewish tradition he was familiar with. He did not make it up.
Yes you are right it is a Jewish thing, the actual hand sign is a Jewish letter, which is the first letter for one of the names of God, I think it's called shin, I'm not too sure it's pronunciation.
Im Jewish. Shin looks like this- ש
That doesn't looks like similar to me.
@@dolria1 apparently this is what Leonard Nimoy said I'm an unsure whether it is shin but it is something of that but he did say it was a Jewish letter first letter of the name of God this came out of the mouth of Leonard Nimoy the letter itself I'm unsure of or its name I just thought it was something like that that is all.
@TheVoiceOfTruth wow didn't know i worship moloch. Total bs. You are reported to UA-cam.
He didn't invent the gesture, but rather the application. That was his idea to use something he was familiar with, but was obscure enough that most viewers wouldn't recognize it as anything familiar, eg alien. So using it as part of his character was simple, and brilliant.
Touching... (tears well up)
Bill knows the answer why Leonard stopped talking to him, that he's since admitted. Nimoy told Shatner something in confidence which he later blabbed publicly in an interview.
What was it?
Reinvention - Bill Shatner knows that it was down to him secretly filming Nimoy for his Star Trek captains documentary - in the grand scheme of things maybe it wasn't worth falling out over but it was a betrayal of trust.
That's exactly what happened. Shatners ego wouldn't allow him to miss that funeral but he knew in his heart that he betrayed a friend. And he'd rather lie about it.
Gee. He doesn't know why Nimoy stopped talking to him...he doesn't understand why George T can't stand him...and he was surprised when Nichelle told him that the rest of the 'crew' hated him....gee.
Out of those three... Takei is a difficult man (childhood in a camp does that to you).
Sometimes things get out of hand and last years.
This just so sad when we loose a friend over something and don't understand and when thay pass on its heart breaking
He knows why, he used intellectual property that belonged to Nimoy without permission, even after he was denied permission by Nimoy. I saw an interview with Nimoy where he explained he had not granted the use and Shatner used it anyway. I wish they could have reconciled or at least Shatner could have made a charitable donation at Nimoys' request to atone for his transgression. Life is what it is and you don't get 2nd chances to do the right thing, usually!
Exactly
What was the intellectual property?
@@niallchurch2679 My understanding is that Shatner was making a documentary about sci-fi fandom, and invited Nimoy to appear on it. Nimoy declined, but Shatner secretly filmed him while he was at a convention anyway. Nimoy was furious about the breach of his privacy and trust.
www.thoughtco.com/leonard-nimoy-died-hating-william-shatner-3987061
@@martinodoni8943 probably not true if it came from the ghastly Daily Mail fake newspaper.
@@martinodoni8943 If it was the documentary The Captains like the article suggests I didn't see nimoy In it. If he was it was a blink and you will miss it sort of thing. Still I think Nimoy may have been a little petty letting it ruin their friendship.
To think that Kirk said "I wouldn't die because the two of you were with me" ( said to Mcoy and Spock)
This quote is sadly true since both of those legends are gone.
The chemistry between Spock and McCoy is unlike anything written into shows and movies today. Their banter was amazing. I'm gonna cry when Shatner departs to join them, the three characters feel like my old freinds.
Thing with shows like Star Trek is it will revolve and evolve around a very select set of individuals. Both Shatner and Nimoy were really the two main arcs of the show, with the rest obviously being in supporting roles. Again I would think Shatner would have a bigger role as opposed to Nimoy simply because Bill was Capt Kirk. Kirk was in charge of the Enterprise and so that was the premise of the show. I would go as far to say, the Enterprise was a bigger “ star “ than some of the supporting cast members. It would probably stand that there may have been a little jealousy at play from the minor leagues and over time it’s just manifested into rumour and dislike of Shatner for no real reason. Reality is if your a Trekkie, you know who the stars are, you know their name and who played whom. I would imagine that possibly eight times in ten, if you had the chance to meet one of the stars, you would go for Shatner or Nimoy. That’s no disrespect to the rest of the cast. It’s simply an observation. Live long and proper people 🖖
Deforest Kelley for me
Dont know why Nimoy bitched so much about Bill in the later years, he got plenty of important roles in tng, and was even in that pathetic excuse of a reboot.
@@seesnap He's dead Jim! O.o
@@seesnap But that's impossible!
@@seesnap James Doohan probably because I am actually Scottish.
This was the best way he could have honored Leonard. It perfectly encapsulates Spock's quote at the end of Wrath of Khan. "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few." Props to Shatner for choosing integrity and the greater good over his personal feelings. What an amazing man.
Except he took the flight back and would have been able to be a part of the funeral for that time.
@@sandracushing8907 I agree Sandra. We can't know what was happening behind the scenes with this, but we do know that Shatner did some nasty things to his fellow cast members (including the video bit that has been mentioned on this thread). He is neither evil or a saint. I like the man and have enjoyed his work, but I think we do have to look at the whole of the man and his conduct.
It is possible that he was told not to go to the funeral. I have seen that happen on several occasions within my own family and friends. It's an unfortunate final middle finger to the person receiving the message, but it absolutely does happen.
If that happened, I can understand why he wouldn't want to publicize that (perhaps as much out of respect for Nimoy as for the light it would cast him in personally).
Perhaps he was simply honouring Nimoy's final wishes by not attending?
I delivered travel arrangements to Mr. Nimoy once in 1995. He actually signed my paperwork. I have no idea why I just turned it in. I really, really, really should have kept that signature. D'oh!
I think Shatner would have gone to Tears if he had gone to the Funeral.
Can't Anyone See That
And he also doesn't talk like a person in their 80's.
At horse shows, he's just "Bill" to everyone. Great guy.
yortko1
In HIS eighties.
@@alanleslie7751 you are grammatically wrong.
NO, he has a remarkably strong and even rhythm
@@karsten9895 You are correct Karsten. At first, it would seem the proper wording should be "in his 80s" but the original sentence uses the phrase "like a person" rather than "like people in their 80s.
I wish there was something I could do for all the haters in this world. Leonard Nimoy and William Shatner had a big impact in my life. They gave me the strength to keep going no matter how hard the circustances are. I pray for all of you who give a thumbs down to a man who is only trying to be a good person and help others now. Thanks for showing me this video. It brought an avalanche of tears to sooth the hurt of it all...
Seems to be a pattern with Shatner. His co-stars on Star Trek all hated him but he seemed to be the last to know and always feigned shock and puzzlement.
They didn't "all hate him". There were some who were very good friends like Kelly and Nimoy while others were not as friendly like Takei and Doohan. By the way Takei was known to be very jealous and always wanted a bigger role on ST. He was jealous not only of Bill Shatner but even Walter Koenig when he first arrived on ST. He was pushing to get his own command of a starship which he eventually did in the final ST movies but failed to realize it would only be a sideshow because the main action would be on the Enterprise.
@@LA_Commander Takei is a whiny, limited talent bigot, intolerant of opinions other than his own. I put zero stock in anything he says. That said, yes Kelly and Nimoy got along with Shatner, but they were established actors by then, had guest starred and in effect had made their mark, albeit very small successes at that point. I reference what the great TV character actor Richard Herd told me at a Chillerthon while signing autographs and we chatted. I told him "you worked with Shatner, who has the reputation of being the biggest jerk in show business". He said "Yes and that reputation is well-earned". Wow. But then he followed up with "Well, I shouldn't knock him, he was OK to me on T.J. Hooker for 4 years.". That's the point, Shatner wanted the spotlight and would only cede it to those he felt were "worthy" I guess. But, for the record I think I'd put up Shatner's career, both before and after Star Trek way, way over Takei's. Takei has done nothing other than cash in on his feud with Bill and coming out of the closet.
Nimoy likely stopped talking to others too. I've seen people go quiet when they've heard they have terminal illnesses. It's normal, William. I also think it would have been better for him to express his feelings to you in some way of communication to you b4 passing. This hopefully would have left things on a positive note. Please consider this idea. I've seen many pass who acted this way, became more private, inward. Dying is tough stuff for some.
This man played in the Twilight zone..and he is still alive..and look good...wtf..this man is the boss
Also did a film in Esperanto.
There was some closure on this, as after Leonard died, his daughter met with Shatner and told him that her father loved Shatner dearly. That had to count for something.
YOU ARE AND ALWAYS HAVE BEEN MY FRIEND JIM.
My understanding is that Bill made a mistake, maybe unintentionally. He was making some kind of Trek-related video, and asked Nimoy to be involved. Leonard declined. Bill, maybe on the sly, took footage of him, and without his knowledge or permission, included it in the video. Apparently Nimoy was upset, and never spoke to him again. So dang sad.
I've heard a lot of conflicting stories about Shatner's relationship with al lot of the cast members. I actually believe most of them, but for some reason they have not deterrmed me from really liking Shatner. Some say he had a huge ego, some said he was a narcissist. Both of which may be, and probably are true. But I recognize him for what he ALSO is, an entertaining, talented, funny and inspiring person.
I would break down in tears if I met him in person just out of respect and joy.
Love you ! Respect !
People should lay off Bill....I mean Kirk and Spock were best-friends..sadly Shatner and Nimoy weren't. I mean raising money for Red Cross is a pretty respectable excuse to miss a funeral for someone that you weren't particularly close to. Also, Shatner has been very gracious to his Star Trek co-stars in various interviews while these same people have literally made it a industry to trash Shatner's reputation in public....that's very class-less IMO.
This is just wrong.
Nimoy and Shatner have gone on record HUNDREDS of times celebrating their friendship.
I understand that, but they both kinda played their friendship for "Hollywood" publicity...while I'm not doubting they liked and respected each other, I'm not sure they were nearly as close as ppl they would have us belive.
Also, death is a sad thing and people deal with death in their own unique way...so many ppl beat up on Shatner, so I'm gonna give him the benefit of the doubt!
Ryan Hunter
Ask Nimoy's son if they were actually close or watch any record of past conventions where they appeared with each other behind the scenes. ;)
There is literally no evidence to the contrary.
Regarding Shatner....
Well he certainly is difficult, but he doesn't have any ill intentions according to my observations.
Knightrunner actually they were
What I'm getting out of all of this (consistently) Is that William Shatner was hard to work with, and be around. I'm hearing this from other people that worked with him on the Star Trek set especially. The truth is a very difficult thing to swallow for many people. Also, people just don't (for no reason at all) suddenly stop talking to other people that they claim to be life long friends with. Especially when they are dying.
Shater took the action to prioritize what he did on that date, and acted to make a gesture to give due homage to Nimoy. A life well lived by him, and those to in perpetuity keep his memory alive. He won't have to be concerned with at least one former cast mate.
I have always enjoyed the work of both Shatner and Nimoy. One of the worst aspects of social media is that many assume the right to be as nasty to as many others as possible, especially to those more successful than they. Kudos to all who can remain gracious under fire.
It seems sad, but this happens more often than people might think. Old friends, even siblings, will just stop communicating because of various different reasons, they might simply change with age and lose common interests, have a disagreement, or something small might have offended one unknown to the other; who knows? But then they grow apart as time passes until one dies. The best thing to do then is reflect and celebrate all the good memories and the happy times that they did share in life.
From what I recall their dispute was over one of Bill's projects that Leonard wanted no part of. Bill knows this, but doesn't want to acknowledge it...
Leonard said no to Bill's planned documentary. Bill went ahead and used footage of Leonard without his knowledge or consent. It was a shitty thing to do and Bill is lying when he says he doesn't know what happened.
Bill has also denied knowing why other cast members disliked him. Clearly he doesn't want to admit his wrongdoing and that's just cowardly.
Exactly
Shatner has THE BEST F ing hair!!! Met him twice and he was always nice to me. I wish I could afford that hair system!!!
Yes, and he even put burt Reynolds, on to the same hair system, burt said so in an interview.
Made from 100 % Trible silk
@@scottmullins87 that's exactly the trible with it! Lol
My guess would be that if Leonard was ill even before he was dying, this can effect peoples patience and other aspects of their behaviour. If it's true that Shatner is a tough person to get along with, then that may explain it. I don't think Shatner should take it too personally or seriously and just be thankful he knew him and was friends with him.
I like Shatner a lot I always have. But, I have to say that when you have a group of people (fellow actors) and all of them have had ill feelings with one person, then one has to ask if the one person is the problem, or, is it everybody else? Simple deduction would dictate that it's probably the one person. We all know Bill has an ego as big as the Sun. But, it still doesn't change my opinion of him. I think Shatner is an absolute icon that could never be replaced.
William Shatner I love you! God Bless you
Meredith Vieira, we love you, God bless you!
The fact that he lost the respect of so many of his fellow former cast mates says more about his character than theirs. Pity, smh.....
Not really.
Did he, though? Takei is the only one who has much of anything to say, and it is basically that the star of the show kept ana eye out for how he was portrayed and wired to advance his own image and career. That's kind of what many people do at work. Compare that to all of the stories if people who have met and known the guy, and the complaints just add up to much.
Please don't feel bad even thou i just learned of this Mr Shatner ....Your heart was in the best place to honor one of your best -special special friends that Nimoy would have been ...Leonard would be far happier that you participated in raising funds for the red cross... He was that kind of man...and so are you ...and if leonard was as ill ...as you say ...there was no possible way he could have responded ...an his family wouldn't have been reading any message ...just my thoughts ..sending positive energy ...life long fan
Maybe he wanted you to remember him as he was and didn't realize for a moment that this is how it would appear or it being taken this way😢
George Takei (Sulu), Walter Koenig (Chekhov) James Doohan (Scotty), Leonard Nimoy (Spock)... all had a "fallout" with Shatner, and he's always claimed it wasn't his fault. Does anyone else see a pattern here?
Exactly. And his beef with Leonard started in 1966, when Leonard let in a interviewer from a paper, who started snapping photos, and Shatner was worried about his "little make up secrets" coming out. Oh sorry William, we'll leave you, to have your toupee (now hair system) applied in peace.
George Takei is a fucking piece of shit, himself though.
Clubbed Sandwich yes I do understand you. But Shatner is seriously not nice. Don’t get me wrong, his an amazing actor, especially when he was very young, in the glass eye, in 1957 he was total class. But damn, he can be nasty. And as for George, when I met him near London, 12 or 13 years ago, he was in a pantomime, and giving away autographs for free, and Shatners worth many many times more. I met him in 2005 at an autograph show, he signed 5 autographs, with no one else around, and didn’t even look up. Well I had just spent £150 on autographs, and was not having it, so I said “thanks William” quite loudly, too which he looked up, and said “thank you” what a prick.
@@dalebaker9109 Don't get me wrong. I agree that Shatner is not a good guy either.
wow didn't know Star Trek crew off the set were not cordial with each other. Always thought Takei, Shatner and Nimoy were great friends in real life as well.
It's been know for years Dumbass...
@@Anth230 Not everyone is glued to the internet dumbass.
It's not true that the actors of ST were not cordial with each other. Some were great friends and got along well (Shanter/Nimoy/Kelly for example) while others were less so (like Takei and Doohan for example). Take any diverse group of people and you will find some who get along great and others who don't. Keep in mind there is a lot of petty jealousy at play. George Takei was notoriously jealous not only of Shatner but also Walter Koenig when he first appeared on the set of ST.
Loved Leonard and William British star trek freak here how i loved the original show best ever to me such a shame both not speaking at all at the end not sure why this happened.
Anyone know why they fell out?
to boldly go where no man has gone before🖖🖖. Live long and prosperous..My friend
Some people are so needy, you never know what kind of relationship Shatner and Nimoy had!
These relationships sell tickets and books and DVDs ... and now every show has some kind of thing where they all hang together and say they are a family and love each other ... it's for profit.
ive missed a lot of funerals of people i love -it doesnt matter -we'll all meet again...except malware makers...
great lovely and sad story
Nobody just ''stop talking'' to their dear friend without reason, dear Bill.
@MysteryFan Ah, insults. The last refuge of a man who lacks the intelligence, the maturity, the creative mind and the fertile imagination to conceive strong arguments in order to win any confrontation. Thank you, dear sir, for reminding me that this world is filled with incompetent, immature, rude, self centered, arrogant and simple-minded folk, who most desperately seek attention when they are not worthy of standing out from the crowd, thus they succumb to insults in order to get people to pay attention.
But for argument's sake.. all of his co-workers had nothing good to say about Bill. He is arrogant, selfish, rude, provocative and manipulative. On the contrary, very few people had bad things to say about Leonard, so i ask you, with what little objectivity you possess.. who is more likely NOT to respect a friendship?!
I think it's such a shame that his lingerie company failed simply because of its name. Shatner Underwear was never going to gain traction.
Hahahaha .... that's funny.
Spock’s logic: “The Needs of the Many Outweigh the Needs of the Few” or the one
@Tuco The Rat No. That was in the need of the dictators like Stalin or Mao. Same with Hitler's concentration camp, the need to have people feel superior over others and scapegoating all the problems they had on a set of people based on some differences in beliefs and ethnicity.
The kings and queens of old who brought their people to war or famine or to other ilk would say the same thing.
Republics from the Dutch to America would say they were doing things for needs of the many... while screwing over the few or the many too.
Most tyrants or group of tyrants ruling together did not do so proclaiming to serve a few or themselves. Ever.
Because nobody would follow such lunacy.
Was always for the "greater good" for all types of tyrannical or inequitable reigns under all political systems and/or economic systems.
It is for the masses and each of us individually to discern the genuineness and reasonableness of various leaders' or representatives' causes. To be brave and speak out and/or fight against deceptions and charlatans and not pretend with them when it is apparent that it is not for the greater good but exploitation, coercion, blackmail, bribery, thuggery, manipulation, etc. and has little to nothing to do with the greater good.
Democracy isn't mob rule. Mob rule is when a thug or group of thugs can convince or scare the people into submission, perhaps inducing an apathy or impotence that in turn invokes a type of Stockholm syndrome, a delusion that the thugs or thug is really a representation of your own thoughts and needs even when it's utterly at variance.
Otherwise, why even have elections? Why even have representative republics? Why even both feigning rights with a constitution that is supposedly comes from not just a simple democratic majority, but a required larger super majority?
And why would anyone want to satisfy the needs of a few when the needs of the many are held in contempt?
Do not confuse the pretends of dictators for the results of democracies.
Bill, he loved you no matter what. He loved you. Live long and prosper!
I am losing a battle with my life and I for some reason cannot be around anyone. My mother died of liver cancer and she refused to let anyone see her but my sister. She refused her other children, grandchildren, Sister a final visit, in the months before she died.