How Astro Bot Highlights Sony’s Incompetence
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- Опубліковано 17 вер 2024
- As much as I love Sony and all they've done for the games industry, their recent track record of abandoning some of their longest-standing franchises kind of sucks...
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“It’s MY IP to sit on and do nothing with!”
-Sony when fans ask them to revive a franchise that’s actually fun to play
"Listen it's not the 90's anymore! It's now all about cramming in as many awful politics, hyper realism, and microtransactions. F*ck you, want another Crash and Spyro game from Activision to make you feel better?"
Smiling friends ftw
Honestly, Sony isn't the only one to do so. Microsoft and Nintendo are the same. As well as a few dozens other gaming companies. Which is very sad.
@@minislayer3241Microsoft, yeah. Nintendo, no.
@@ShiningStar5022 as a huge Nintendo fan - no, the most of their old games are locked in the vault and many of their franchises are in a hiatus
it's been a whole roller coaster with SONY
>Concord comes out for less than 2 weeks.
>Astro bot comes out to great reviews
>PS5 pro gets announced.
Remember the CEO said they didnt have a lot of original IPs. CEO probably never had a ps1
CEO probably has a PS5, since the PS5 has no games.
CEO’s favourite console is probably launch PS3.
@@DANBAN119 Playstation has no fricking Games.
The current executives strike me as people who don't play games, nor care for their own company's history.
I'll say this having watched the video, but the guy who made this did not disprove the Sony CEO. Dude said the Sony CEO is wrong and proceeds to list IP that *SONY HAS NEVER OWNED.* Should have focused less on talking about MGS and more about Syphon Filter.
I love it when Sony doesn't use its vast library of ips and then complains when their playerbase isn't as big as they want it to be!!!!! I love the fact that we will probably never see another ape escape entry due to the fact that sony doesn't see any value in the franchise!!!
That’s literally what I’m saying! You really get me
@@egonytI agree - Astro bot doesn't feel like the celebration of PlayStation that it should. With what Sony got up to? It looks more like PlayStation's gravesite.
"If it ain't Crash nor Spyro. No Heckarinos buy!" - Scrimblo Snoys
One of the heads is even quoted saying they don’t have any IP’s. Yes they do! They just never use them. According to him they forgot they even exist
They have SO many franchises for so many different audiences locked away in the vault that they can bring back and revive.
Ape Escape, Jak & Daxter, Sly Cooper, PaRappa The Rapper, LittleBigPlanet, MediEvil, Killzone, Resistance, Gravity Rush, Twisted Metal, Siphon Filter, S.O.C.O.M, Wild Arms, LocoRoco, Vib-Ribbon, Alundra, Patapon, Lemmings, Jumping Flash.
WHERE ARE THEY, SONY?
...Right there in Astro Bot?
IYKYK
Gravity Rush was a great duology... but there really isn't a way to continue that story.
Same with Jak apparently, even if its final note was a whimper.
But on the other hand, Sly Cooper isn't just open to continuation, it's got a cliffhanger that's _begging_ for resolution here! Same with Medieval whether you count the remake's comic or not! And Ape Escape was never story-centric enough to prevent new entries either!
Jak & Daxter could at least be put outside of the PS3, same for inFamous 1 and 2@@ShadwSonic
Cause the hacks would rather rely on Activision to crap out a Crash or Spyro title. Because Scrimblo Snoys sure made it clear with their metldown over their two golden Scrimblo darlings not being present in PSASBR. Now it's finally biting you guys where it hurts.
Hey, remember when Polyphony used to make this BADASS MECHA GAME CALLED OMEGA BOOST??? (Also a Sony first party IP btw) Sad to think that studio has now been turned into a Gran Turismo churning mill.
As a Nintendo Diehard, i I've always been drawn to Sony when they were in direct competition with Nintendo and SEGA because that was when they were the most diverse with their titles. Ever since they have been in competition with Microsoft, the culture shifted.
The day I started seeing more shooters and story driven titles than Platformers and Rhythm games was the day I drifted further away from the PlayStation brand.
I agree, the PS2 was the last console that had any fun Platformers or rhythm games on it. I would buy a PS5 if they announced a Remaster of the Sly Cooper Trilogy or a revival of Jack and Daxter. Heck, if they got the rights to Spyro and Crash back and made some new games for the PS5 I would have more motivation... But if they decide to push it on to PC (and they eventually will anyway, since the PS5 is doing so poorly) then they might as well forget the PS5 sale for me. Astro Bot bot may be a game that twists my arm slightly, but it doesn't pull me that direction yet, and wont if it dose come to PC. Lets face it, there is no reason to own a PS5 if you have a decent PC that can run it already, and it will be there in the next year anyway.
I second this. I that is likely the main reason Nintendo continues to thrive while Sony and Microsoft are failing. Most if not all of their games for the past decade have been so similar while Nintendo has consistently innovated. They make both mario and Kirby, both being platformers, feel and look and play so differently while every shooter nowadays is nearly identical.
Same. Since I really like a lot more cutesy type games, often on Nintendo consoles like Kirby or Starfy, it wasn't until Klonoa when I genuinely was more invested in the PlayStation from the first to the third.
You know with people talking about these types of games, it would be cool to see something like Vib-Ribbon come back too!!
I used to love Xbox and Sony. I switched to Nintendo after many many years. Im happy with my switch.
sony needs knack to save the ps5
It literally made the ps4 popular, it would sell a knackillion copies on ps5
@@egonyt we NEED knack back
Knack 3.. KNACK!! I LOVE KNACK!!! IM GONNA KNACK OFF
We'd be so knack
What about the other games? Like sly cooper Jack and daxter and others
I'm just gonna point out, I am SO glad that every single Astrobot review brings up Sly Cooper at least once. We need Sly content desperately
Amen, brother
Sony literally has a new heist game coming out called Fairgame$, and all I could think was "this should have been a Sly game". 🦝
just ONE GAME, we can't have that cliffhanger
Look at Nintendo. None of their games cost +100 Million dollars to make but get that on revenue.
They make good games that are fun with an average budget.
Instead of just throwing money to the oven.
To quote civvie11, "Maybe, y'know, maybe you're spending too much money, maybe??? Nah, it can't be that!" (For context, he was talking about how Epic Game's dev team didn't wanna make gears of war 4 cuz it wouldve cost them over $100m)
Games these days are more concerned about looking good than being good.
Astro Bot, a funeral service to a dying corporation.
The most fun funeral I ever played on a home console.
Most fun I've had a funeral frfr
That is a banger description 🔥🔥
It's the game equivalent of the song "Life is Beautiful" by Sixx:A.M.
Well you know what they say you can't spell 'Funeral' without 'Fun.'
2010's: The Pac is back
2020's: The Knack is back (?)
I want nothing more than Knack back
As a Nintendo guy, Astro bot was very enjoyable and made me wish that Sony embraced their ips as much as Nintendo does.
Sony is stuck chasing only the most profitable video games and easily give up anything below triple A.
While Nintendo will support small series that’s sells barely a million copies.
The way Sony is now seems unsustainable for them and add to that concord
I hope concord is sort of a wake up call
Sony must’ve been trying to say “I don’t need you guys!” to the non-realistic IP’s, up until now.
They did made an efford to retain Crash and Spyro.
But Universal said NO, unless they get an irrational amount of money that was not worthed.
and now Crash and Spyro are stuck with Microsoft thanks to Activision owning them at the time they were aquired
@@surogunerexcept Microsoft will probably keep them multiplat. They let crash and Spyro be in Astro bot (granted they might’ve already been planned before the buy out but Microsoft still could’ve pulled them). Crash and Spyro just aren’t big enough to be console exclusives anymore. Like Minecraft is obviously staying multiplat
I don’t think Microsoft will abandon making Xbox consoles, but I have a feeling they’re going to try to position themselves more as the Netflix of gaming with Gamepass.
@@night6724 I can't even imagine what would happen if Minecraft became a xbox exclusive. Like you said, that should never happen, but locking any future updates to the most popular game of all time would certainly be a sight to see. I do agree though that xbox is trying to become more of a service like Netflix, which I dont know how I feel about it. On one hand, not everything needs to be a subscription based service, but on the other it will lead to less exclusives on xboxs part. I mean they kinda already started the process by porting Sea of Thieves (great game) to playstation.
@@netherwarrior6113Minecraft started basically as an Xbox exclusive 🙄
@@cf3661 on consoles yeah. But it was always on PC and they put it on Apple devices.
315 MILLION DOLLARS? THAT’S A BIGGER BUDGET THAN NO WAY HOME HAD
We want more variety, not just realistic shooters or opened world games with realistic graphics and has a 9 digit budget that'll cause low sales and potential lay offs
This game really shows how many games used to be PlayStation franchises back in the PS1/PS2 days.
PS3 was great too. lego games. kung fu panda 1. even some old games there too so exclusively. even on simpsons
Sony/PlayStation goes through this cycle every couple generations or so:
• Release a great console to critical acclaim
• The worldwide praise goes to their heads and they think they can get away with scummy behavior, so they release the next console that’s overpriced and just weird
• Other gaming companies release better consoles that, combined with criticism, humbles PS significantly, and they desperately struggle to get back on top.
Rinse and repeat. The PS1, PS2, and PSP were successful, then we got the PS3 and Vita that didn’t do so well, the PS4 came along and restored PS’s dominance and pushed it to new heights, and now we’re back at the low point again with the PS5.
The only difference this time though is there’s a lack of competition to humble PS. Xbox is considering exiting the console gaming market entirely, and Nintendo is just focused on doing their own thing. Most gamers are starting to drift towards either traditional PC’s or handhelds such as the Steam Deck or ASUS ROG. PS’s starting to enter the PC market with their recent ports.
PlayStation NEEDS competition, badly.
If I was the head of Xbox sony will be sweating a sea
@@W5529Fortniteeh, Xbox sees the writing on the wall for consoles and is throwing in the towel rather than waste a ton of resources to compete on something consumers aren't even that interested anymore. Series S outsells Series X like 7-1, 75% of players prefer higher frames over higher fidelity, the Switch which is freaking HW running on a 2010 mobile chip is curb stomping everyone. Most Sony players are still on PS4. Pretty much all the signs are there, what is even the point of spending fortunes on the console arms race when high end in this environment?
Nah, ps3 was weird in a good way. We got stuff like Littlebigplanet, Heavenly Sword, Wipeout HD, Puppeteer, PSASBR, Infamous, Sly 4, FIVE Ratchet & Clank games.
@@tloz171nfs Most of those came in the latter half of the PS3’s lifecycle when the Slim saved the console. The original PS3 was an expensive, buggy, barren mess that enabled the early success of the Xbox 360.
@@gamble777888 Compete with Nintendo, start pushing our their own zany assortment of backlog IPs again, if not new ones. Keep the realistic games, too. Take up the market space XBox will leave behind once it eventually pulls out. Start actually STICKING to exclusives, too.
The fact that the other platform game they are still keeping alive, Rachet & Clank, wont have a new game until 2029 based on the Insomniac leaks is just horrible, when back in PS2 and PS3 they would get up to 4 titles or more. I want to play both the new Ratchet & Clank and Astro Bot, but those are basically the only exclusive titles I want to play on PS5 which doesn’t justify buying it, I rather wait and buy the Switch 2 since the library there will already beat PS5’s in no time for sure. Is sad that Sony have such a great library of IPs and doesnt do them justice
Ratchet and Clank Rift Apart is now on PC as well. If you do have a decent PC to run it, then there is no need for a PS5. I would understand why you wouldn't of course, but it does make the PS5 a harder sell...
I wonder why ratchet and clank survived and mostly everything else of that vibe/style and age is dead. Is it because it was a shooter or slightly more adult. Maybe it’s just insomniac pushing for it
@@monhi64 To be honest as popular as Jak and Sly are now, the Ratchet and Clank series did sell the most during the PS2 era. Also Insomniac was willing to make newer R&C games since Ted Price was still head of the company. Jason Rubin and Andy Gavin left when Uncharted got started so the direction of Naughty Dog changed right then. They tried to make a newer realistic Jak but they felt it wasn't feel true to the series. Sucker Punch moved onto Infamous and later Ghosts of Tsushima. Of course there was Thieves in Time by Sanzaru games but I don't think the sales justified them continuing the series...
It's because they always used Ratchet & Clank as a test rat for every new PS tech demo. But it's been shown that even Insomniac is going down the dark path of what the massive joke that is NaughtyDog nowadays. But with making Marvel slop instead of original ideas ever since they fully got bought out by Playstation.
the thing about Sega is that they're not a video game company. Sega (or more accurately SegaSammy) are a pachinko company with a video game side hustle. Sonic literally had a total of 1 page, in their entire investor report in 2020. it's only recently that they're trying to pivot to using it as a product to be improved rather than a marketing tool. it's also why Sega is not so DMCA happy with sonic stuff but are more litigious when it comes to Atlus.
once you notice this it will suddenly make sense why Nintendo, which is mainly known for gaming, has a much better game library diversity compared to Xbox, who also make office software, and Sony, who makes hardware.
imo I don't see it improving unless they fully detach Playstation or Xbox as separate companies with leadership that cares about games more.
SEGA will always be more of a game company than Sony.
-Sony is an entertainment company for more than 25 years and PlayStation kept Sony afloat in difficult periods few times already. PlayStation literally has sperate executives responsible for gaming industry.
Switch sold about 1 billion games, PS4 sold 1.7 billion games
I mean nintendo makes really good games. Otherwise.. Nobody would buy a worse console like the switch when theres playstation
Uh oh, PlayStation has no games…
@@kogamustard7717 exactly. the only reason Nintendo consoles sell well is because of the games themselves, the consoles are ridiculously underpowered compared to xbox and playstation consoles.
Sony is hoarding their legacy IP like a dragon sitting on a pile of gold
LIKE A WHAT?
More like a spoiled businessman who threw almost every franchise in the trash
@@Pinkyorangegirl hey now the franchises are still there, they just need to pick them up and dust them off from time to time that's all
"Its MY IP to sit on and do nothing with."
Like a what?
(You know that Klonoa is Namco, right? I would dearly love Klonoa 3, but that's not Sony's IP, it's not one of the many examples of Sony being incompetent)
Yes, and there are also a lot of third-party games, particularly classics that are not exclusive to Nintendo. But because Nintendo has actively financed and promoted those partnerships, they've really grown. Example, Marvel versus Capcom is usually seen as a Sony thing, but because Nintendo keeps promoting and investing in these collections, this might not being exclusive to them when those games are being brought up. Now people are talking about Nintendo with them. Only can exactly do the same thing. The problem is is that they let all of their partnerships shrivel up and die except for Square enix which is another Japanese company that has spent way too much money on budget with not enough return, which is why they're probably both meant for each other.
@@jordanwhite352 ho sees mvc as a Sony thing It was never exclusive tô Sony consoles
Rachet and Clank slowly feeling the effect of being abandoned since in the Insomniac leak had to wait till 2029 till a new game because most of the games there developing are Marvel games
Gosh, Ratchet and Clank is not abandoned. R&C:RA->Spiderman->Wolverine-> new R&C
Devs have lives and need to sleep too :D
They should use AI to speed up production thier time
The reason is because they have obligations to Marvel to create games within a certain timeframe. They only have the license for a limited time. If you look at the leaked roadmap, their focus is on R&C and new IP after their last X-Men game releases
Don't call them Sega. They're _Sammy_ wearing Sega's skin.
Astro Bot really came out at the perfect time, as the ridiculously high standard for AAA PlayStation games feels like it's at a breaking point. I loved seeing all these cool references to old games, and it's gotten me interested in going back and playing them for myself. I'm hoping Concord and Astro Bot are the 1 2 punch combo PlayStation needs to shake it up with their new game releases going forward
I think one of the main reasons it blew up to the extent it did is that it is so different from everything else on the console (and it’s just a really good platformer that’s fun)
No one bought the game u can say how great it is that don't matter if don't equal to sells it's a waste for the company you guys don't buy games..
@@justprincetv9299 are you talking about concord?
@Nooneishereonlyme am talking about all the games mos of them flop problem is the price and overcrowded amount of games this Gen has the most released games of thw Gen
Concord is more like Sony hitting themselves. Astro Bot is Sony hitting a target.
Klona is Namco
and Spyro is stuck with Microsoft now.
Sony might realize their need for cheap low stakes games and the unreliable nature of producing too many expensive blockbuster games back to back.
I hope Sony sees how popular Astro Bot is and they bring back some of their older ips.
10:20 let's not forget that Square Enix is refusing to do exclusives with Sony. They stated weeks ago that future Final Fantasy games will be released on as many platforms as possible, and it's being reported that they are actively working on re-releasing older Final Fantasy games on other platforms.
This coupled with the fact that Sony is releasing many of their console exclusives on PC a year or two after launch, with some like MLB The Show being released on every platform it is becoming increasingly hard to justify buying a Playstation.
Wow I actually did not know this. It’s a shame too because the remakes of 7 are literally some of my favorite games ever
Slight caveat, they aren’t refusing to do exclusives with Sony they are refusing to do exclusives PERIOD. They actually released twice as many exclusives on switch which they are now not going to keep doing either.
People like to paint this narrative that it’s Sony they have issues with when it’s not. They have just had so many failures which are mostly mobile games and multiplatforms like avengers that the exclusive deals cannot make up the shortfall.
Also, you know Sony doesn’t own mlb right? It’s a licensed property and they were outright told if they wanted to renew the license they had to release it multiplatform. MLB is also a tiny franchise. It’s only sold around 10-11 million copies since its first version released. By comparison insomniac’s Spider-Man alone has doubled those sales.
@@EelofTheTRIMS Can you name 10 switch exclusive squenix games? i really didn't knew they had any
Also Spiderman sold double (counting bundles lmao), but it cost 5 times as much
Sales aren't revenue, and revenue isn't profit
@@GianniLeonhartsales ARE revenue but they aren’t profit. Revenue is money coming in before costs are removed.
Switch exclusives (at least timed bearing in mind the ps exclusives are timed)
Dragon quest rivals
Octopath traveller
Dragon quest 11
Collection of SaGa
Bravely default 2
Triangle strategy
Chocobo gp
Live a Live
Dragon quest treasures
Ketsugou danshi
Dragon quest monster: the dark prince
There’s more if you class pc as it not being multiplatform but I made this list from ones that were on switch first and did not have a pc release day one.
Wanna know why Astro Bot succeeds? It’s not made by a western dev studio.
Sad but true, the Playstation fell off starting with 3 when the takeover of the Cali headquarters happened. One by one, their original IPs fell off. They didn't acquire Crash or Spyro when Universal put them on the market, they shuttered the studios responsible for Ape Escape, Patapon and so many others, their relationship with Konami soured to the point they no longer partnered with Playstation for Metal Gear, and they discontinued all fantastical or stylized series like Jack and Daxter, save for Ratchet and Clank which finally died this past gen.
Astro Bot is fantastic because it brings back the last time the Playstation _was_ king: the PS2. You say "calls its status into question" - my guy, don't kid yourself. Nintendo took its crown back with the Wii and has held onto it ever since.
The reason Cali Playstation failed is because they fulfilled Reggie’s prophecy when asked why Nintendo isn't graphics-centric: because eventually you reach a threshold where no further meaningful advancement can be made, and you have no other selling point to fall back on. That’s why they’ve always been game design first, and JP Playstation understood that. Hell, for a time they did it better.
I like to this Sony reclaimed it with the PS4 while Nintendo was struggling with the Wii U, but you are correct about western game development’s obsession with graphics. How far can game graphics really go before it’s considered a lost cause to pour even more millions of dollars into? I’m at least glad that Astro bot gave us a little taste of game-centered design rather than graphics-centered design and we got a great game out of it
@@egonyt Sony was winning against Nintendo from 1997 to 2007, a whole decade.
They had a revival with the PS4 like you said but Nintendo is dominating ever since.
Dude, what you on about.
Ghost of Tsushima is the best samurai game in the world, Japanese were ashamed that westerners made a better samurai game than themselves.
Jack and Dexter devs simply grew up from platformers and developed another tentpole IPs like Uncharted and Last of Us.
Ratchet and Clank never died, Devs released smash hits since PS2 and on PS4 and PS5 produced another amaizing R&C titles and also released different IP smash hit : Spiderman and now working on Wolverine.
Switch sold about 1 billion games, PS4 sold 1.7 billion games, so PlayStation never fell off and even congratulated Nintendo for an innovative hybrid console, despite Nintendo backstabbed them with PS1 30 years ago.
@tomaszstarzZz you do know they spent over 100 million dollars for 10 companies each to make a successful live service game?
@@tomaszstarzZzFirst of all with Sony who was actually trying to backstab Nintendo with IP ownership which is why Nintendo abandoned them. Of all, nobody grows up from platform games and they should probably go back to that. Considering now all naughty dog is is a Last of Us company and they've been horrifically struggling ever since part one came out. Ratchet& clank only saw one release this generation and will probably only show up the next generation and there are no spin-offs or anything because Sony has turned them into a Spider-Man studio or more accurately, a Marvel studio with insanely slow output. And we also want to note that there's the whole billion games thing. It's only because they've added the PlayStation. 2. The fact that Nintendo caught up and close the gap on this generation alone is astounding and when you compare their current offerings between switch and PlayStation 5, it's literally night and day in both sales and positivity. So basically in the same way Nintendo fans had to realistically look at the Wii U in the 3DS get your head out of your ass and start looking at the problems within the company that you invest in.
I used to be a die-hard Sony fanboy until PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale released. The game itself wasn’t necessarily _bad,_ but something about it felt so low-effort, half-assed, and mismanaged that it was the turning point for me switching to PC gaming instead.
Really hope that vaguely-mentioned PC port of Astro Bot becomes a reality, because I don’t feel like dropping money on a console with no games other than Astro Bot
PSASBR is one of my most beloved games ever, but I can totally understand why you changed trajectory after seeing it. For a game directly inspired by Nintendo's best money printing crossover franchise, it shouldn't have been as contentious as it was.
@@megamillion5852It was my childhood since I never had smash bros to compare it to lol
All I want is little big planet Sony 😢
yeah keep coping buddy 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@Nichslvl I know your home address I’m cummming 4 you
@@Nichslvl oh shut up 🙄 😒
So long as they just make it easily playable on PS3 and add custom server support, it’ll be fine. It’s dangerous to try and cater new releases to people like you, especially when Little Big Planet’s whole thing is custom design.
@@TheOnlyPedroGameplays okay lil bro 🤓
The ONLY way a new Parappa the Rapper game would be successful is if they partnered with Chris Chan to sing the song me made for that contest back in the day😂
We do NOT need another PSP contest
“Who needs a brand new Ape Escape when we can have the most generic shooter ever?”
Sony just needs to stop chasing a mascot. Since the beginning, they’ve outright abandoned their only official mascot, Polygon Man, in favor of just putting the games and franchises on display.
Sony tries so very hard to make THE mascot or THE game. At least when they had Sackboy they also had a steady flow of IP putting out games.
But according to the little Scrimblo Snoys, it all about Crash and Spyro. Nothing else.
Now that karma is now bitting them where it hurts seeing that Activision has shelved them again.
We've seen entire game genres disappear. We need Games. We need REASONS to want a console. We need 2D, 2.5D, 3D, low poly PS1 style, 2d animation style, cell shaded, sports & Xtreme sports we just need GAMES! They need to look back at the PS1-PS2 game libraries and let those games inspire them and get them back into doing what they did during those eras of gaming. It worked then, it will work now.
i dont want them to bring back old ip, i want them to make something new and give an emulation option for the classics.
That’s actually a really sound idea to see if it’d even be worth it for Sony to revive some old IPs on top of creating new ones alongside them
THIS. Sony desperately needs to add the ability for us to play the games we own. It’s very easy to read exactly what’s on a disc and copy it to the hard drive like any other ps4/ps5 game.
Emulation, especially with the PS5’s optimization and CPU, would be TRIVIAL to pull off. First, they’d have to make an optical drive that reads CDs.
Id be willing to buy an upsold optical drive for my PS5 that lets me play my PS1-PS3 games on it more than a PC setup capable of doing the exact same thing but illegally.
They'd probably rip out what made them fun if they tried bringing them back
The problem with their new IP was that their big new IP was Concord and very similar. Other games are coming out.
I swear that game was like some kind of psy op, no way Sony legit thought that would rake in gang busters @@jordanwhite352
A bit of context is needed for a lot of former sony exclusives. During the ps1 and 2 era, a lot games were not exclusive because of deals but because porting them was too expensive. Sony designed the ps2 and 3 in such a way that porting games to another system would be a hard and expesive task. This backfired with the ps3 causing sony to use a more standard architecture for the ps4, making it easier to port games to xbox or pc
Sony: This is MY IP to Sit On and Do Nothing With!!
So many of the series referenced are old loves of mine, and yet despite all of that? Astro Bot is the ONLY interesting Sony-born IP that I can't already access entirely from owning a Switch, a gaming PC, and a PS4. The only one that had been an exception was Ratchet's newest adventure, but that's on Steam now, so...
When it comes with Klonoa, they made the Reverie Series 2 years ago, promised on a 3rd Klonoa game. That Klonoa remaster was top game on steam for a week or two, but it seems like even the company, Klonoa Works, is asking for help on social medias for him to come back, showing that Sony forgot about Klonoa and quietly put him under the rug for cameos.
Well, thats a namco franchise, so you can forgive sony on that one
Bandai Namco is a shitshow in its own right, right now, Sony has no involvement whatsoever there.
How about Killzone, Twisted Metal, Cool Boarders. Sony blows now.
7:24 MGS 5 was not the first game on the series to go multiplatform.
MGS 3 was already on the 3DS, MGS 1 and 2 already had PC ports, MGS2 was released in the original xbox and MGS1 even had a GameCube remake.
Not to mention a bunch of less important games in the franchise (MGS gameboy, Metal Gear 1 and 2 on MSX and Nintendo, metal gear rising in PC and Xbox 360, metal gear acid on mobile)
Something I’ve noticed that a lot of failing AAA have been doing is that they’re following competitive trends in the gaming market rather than doing their own thing and/or innovating.
Astrobot is a success because it isn’t competing with anything else on the shelves. The only investment in the game a customer has is the money they spend at the start and they can get the full value of it no matter how long it sits on a shelf, whereas recent live-service online games have a shelf-life in the form of online developer support and online player engagement. Concord failed because not many wanted to invest their time *and* money into it, meaning those who did would not have anyone to play with and thus would stop playing it themselves.
This is a really neat video, and you are correct that Sony needs to utilize their IPs more, but I do have to clarify: Sony does not and has never owned the IPs for Crash, Spyro, Metal Gear, Klonoa, and Final Fantasy. Despite their exclusivity in the past, they have always been 3rd party IPs. In fact Final Fantasy started on the NES, Nintendo just shot their foot during the N64 era due to cartridge space, hence the jump to Playstation. Also the Ape Escape series has had more than 3 games, there was a couple of Japan-exclusive PS2 games, and a bunch of spin-offs as well, especially on the PSP.
I would definitely like a new Ape Escape though, so fingers crossed!
My sweetie surprised me with Parasite Eve on PS when i was sick in the 90’s;
I returned the favour with Gauntlet Dark Legacy on PS2 when she was sick in bed.
We made it a tradition to splurge on a game all the way thru PS4 like that.
Some games mean more than others is what im saying.
Couples that game together, stay together.
Hey Sony, remember Dark Cloud? SSX? Okage Shadow King?
That’s what i thought.
They don't even need to be massive games, they could do spinoff titles. Jak n Daxter a la Metroid Dread? Small, fun games are the best!
The best thing about the older Playstations was the variety of games and prices.
I'm happy Astro Bot exists and that it's being a decent success but diminish other PS games is not the way (they are not over the shoulder nor play the same at all, that only applies to GOW or TLOU if we get picky about it, their best new IP is Returnal), they have other IPs but there are some factor like some are niche IPs that most don't know or straight up don't care about at all (you cannot tell me people give a shit about wild arms or rogue galaxy lmao) some of them simply didn't sell well at least not on that period even with decent marketing no wonder Japan studio shut down, or the devs just moved on from those franchises, if they dont wanna make new games as part of their creative vision i think that good, i mean dont gamers advocated for creative freedom and devs doing what they want? well in this case that part of the freedom they have, let them do what they want, new IPs would be cooler.
In short, Twitter overhype doesn't translate into real life sales or fame, get your own opinion instead of repeating the same BS.
What? The definitive edition of MGS1 to a lot of fans is on the GameCube. The GAMECUBE. This video doesn't seem well researched. Heck it wasn't even Sony's fault for losing ownership of Crash and Spyro. That was all Universal.
This is too similar to the ignorance of people whining about Sony having exclusivity over Spider-Man without knowing the financial struggles Marvel had in the 90s and start of the century.
I’ve unironically been playing LBP and ape escape on my vita recently
I miss smaller games
The reason the 7th gen is when exclusive 3rd party games started to die out, is because the 7th gen was when the different gaming platforms began to converge in terms of power and ease of development. Most games were exclusive at the start because it took so long to develop for one console, that developing for the others would mean building one or even two entirely new games from the ground up.
Game design comes in phases. The old platforming phase ended, then the adventure game era ended, and the shooter game era. The TLOU phase with the linear over the shoulder gameplay and mature stories was great while it lasted but now it’s time Sony shifted to something new.
I don’t think Sony could have held onto the 3rd party IPs. In the past, developers needed them to publish and advertise the games. But we don’t live in the 2000s anymore. We live in the age of the internet, where you get to publish your game on a digital game store and advertise it on social media. Developers and publishers just don’t need exclusivity deals anymore, which thank god! Sonic went through a phase of Nintendo exclusivity and I was a PC gamer in the late 2000s. Anyway, my problem is the mishandling and downright ignoring their own IPs. F-cking Activision Blizzard could remaster their trilogies and sell them cheap and even made Crash 4. Sony? They couldn’t even include MediEvil 2 in their remaster. Sackboy? He has that very cool platformer with licensed music, which honestly, I like it more than Little Big Planet. But they didn’t do anything with it. Ratchet and Clank? They made that experiment to test the new SSDs and left it there to rot. And what’s worse is that these IPs might have contributed to the severely lacking adventure platformer genre. We had to wait for Sonic and Mario to make open world platformer prototypes. I mean really, if the Astro Bot game doesn’t make it clear how much people want simpler, fun games, I don’t know what will. People are getting sick of live services especially, but also the “serious, grown up” walking simulators. Like remember when Kratos was fun? And he still had a deep, meaningful and mature story. But now, we get these sterilised, safe, boring stories that are so afraid to offend Twitter with any form of edginess or anything entertaining really. And open worlds are getting stale too. It works in Sonic Frontiers, because of the sheer speed and fun of movement, but is anyone really aching for another assassin’s creed ripoff? Not everything has to be an RPG. It’s okay to have finite levels. I’m currently replaying Spyro Reignited Trilogy and having finite levels with clear and simple objectives, is so much more fun than slogging through Witcher 3, as good as that game is.
>Sees the old IPs
>Looks at Sony before grabbing the CEO's neck
>"Where's my f***ing Legend of Dragoon Remaster?"
It seems like Team Asobi only had the rights to mention Sony’s IPs. If Sony is smart they will allow Team Asobi to make new entries in these series, but I doubt Sony has learned this.
To be fair tho. A lot of youtube videos pointed that this is more a consumer fault rather than a company fault.
Playstation made games for all genres, even in the ps4. But people prefered to play another the last of us rather than another gravity rush or last guardian.
It is the law of supply and demand after all
EGon: Sony should release smaller games
Sony after shutting down Japan Studio: Um.....about that
Forget Astrobot, WE WANT CLASSIC STUFF
nah i want NEW and never done before while offering full backwards compatibility to play the real classics
Everytime I see the ps5 remote in astrobot, I'm reminded of my controllers stick-drift. I only had it 2 months before the drift started.
2:33 Silly experimental titles often _did_ have big budgets just as much as the narrative driven grounded thrillers.
Ape escape was heavily featured because a large group of the team asobi devs are from the original ape escape team. Source - game director interview on the friends per second podcast
There's a reason that most people don't take animation seriously as a storytelling medium.
Sony has been making games for 30 years now. They're old enough to have a legacy almost as impressive as Nintendo, but while Nintendo is still putting out new installments of its oldest series, Sony has discarded almost all of its past giants. It's no surprise they don't have as many diehard fans.
0:43 Notice how he’s making a video on the ps5 instead of playing games on it
Lmao 😂
What Sony should do is make a bunch of MCC (Master Chief Collection) style collections of their older games for PS5/PC (I could also see a decent amount coming to the Switch. That Lego Horizon game set the precedent for that) with quality of life improvements like bug fixes, modernized controls, restored online multiplayer, and remastered graphics you can turn on and off with a button press. That way those games could be preserved and made accessible to more people. They could also do Dead Space/Resident Evil style remakes of a lot of those older games. Thankfully, even if they don’t do this a lot of those games have been preserved on PC through emulation.
People would have a meltdown and say Sony is only doing remasters. And I think you know that very well.
YESSSSS
I’d be supportive but the Devil May Cry HD collection is an absolute shitshow, and so is every HD collection Sony has thrown to us. It needs more curation
@@TheOnlyPedroGameplays blaming playstation for something capcom did 😭
@@based-ys9um I thought of the exact same thing, which is why I mention that Sony needs to CURATE the stuff better. This means judging what they put out on that front regardless of if Capcom says it’s fine
"Metal Gear Solid V was the first game to go multiplatform"
Uh you might want to check your Metal Gear history. Even if we ignore the games from before the PS1 and just focus on MG Solid and later, we have plenty of instances showing Metal Gear was not exclusive to PlayStation, it was just heavily tied to PlayStation similar to how Final Fantasy was mostly on Nintendo before jumping ship to PlayStation for VII. For Metal Gear, I can point to Solid 2: Substance on Xbox, Solid: Ghost Babel exclusive to GBC, The Twin Snakes remake of Solid 1 being exclusive to GameCube, the HD Collection on 360/PS3 with the same release date, hell I'll even include Rising: Revengence on 360/PS3 with the same release date. Oh and 3D Snake Eater on 3DS. So while big debuts were generally saved for PlayStation, Konami showed they weren't above putting Metal Gear on other systems.
Maybe you could spin it to be the first mainline game to be launch as multiplatform?... maybe, i'm not sure lol
Sony won't bring all those fun franchises back because none of them are going to be so graphically busy to justify the PS5 Pro.
The fitting punishment for abandoning its Japanese roots and embrace the new mindset.
I'm not much of a Playstation fan (I mainly play Xbox), but I would LOVE to see LocoRoco or Vib Ribbon be revived, since LocoRoco only had 4 games and Vib Ribbon got only 2. They're both referenced in this game, Vib Ribbon having a cameo in a secret, and LocoRoco having a whole section dedicated to the game
Nintendo designed Astro Bot. It's proved in videos on UA-cam. Sony stole almost everything from Mario, even the blow in the Mic feature from Mario 3D on Wii U.
One Word : investors
Sony chooses what makes the most money to make them happy. Honestly hate this mindset
I'm real glad you brought up SEGA and how they're reviving their older IPs, it really shows that Sony has no actual excuse when a smaller company is able to do that.
The consequences of Snoys wanting nothing but their golden Scrimblo PS1 darlings Crash and Spyro to the point where Playstation would rather give up after PSASBR and make nothing but souless hyper realisim over the shoulder camera trash with garbage politics.
Glad that hacks of Activision are making more of Crash and Spyro huh? Oh wait........
It's a basic concept in economics that if your entire economy is supported by only one or two resources, it *will* crash in the event that those resources start losing their value, as you'll have nothing else to offer. This is what's happening with PlayStation right now, people are getting tired of these big budget narrative driven games that take 5+ years to make, and having neglected all their other IP for so long Sony doesn't have anything else to offer. Astro Bot's success may have shown people that Sony can indeed still make a good fun platformer, but it's also reminded them of what used to be, and how stale Playstation has become in recent years. If Sony doesn't take Astro Bot as a lesson to start making fun and simple games again, and to pull their old IP out of the vault, they'll start losing customers fast, and it'll reflect on console sales as people see less of a reason to buy a PlayStation. (I already suspect the PS5 Pro is going to sell poorly, and if THAT doesn't knock some sense into them, then I fear all is lost)
i literally spent months on astros playroom, i am not ready for when i get astro bot
A new Ape Escape game would send me
I can understand making a bad game and thinking its good, but how do you possibly make a good game and think its bad?
I feel like everything that happened with gravity rush is all that needs to be said. It's lucky we even got Gravity Rush 2, which, realistically, was more like a Gravity Rush Part 2. The first game basically just ends halfway through because they wanted the studio to rush it into a Vita launch title, and then killed the vita with stupid decisions.
If there is a parappa 3 I will voice parappa! I need to
It's also wild to me that they havent added any new infamous games, I know it one of the games that helped make ps3 and 4 popular, especially as it used the light bar and touch pad for the spray painting on the 4, but there hasnt been a sliver of news about it after Second Son, as far as I know, and i miss the game
You’re so right it completely slipped my mind (which isn’t a good sign)
That's because they bought the company that made that game sucker punch and allowed them to do their ginormous dream game, which took so long that it basically skipped almost an entire console generation and it seems like the sequel's going to take as long.
Sony hit their peak around the the PS2 after that they well all downhill and I don’t see them recovering from this.
This was a good watch. :)
I thought the topic was interesting and I agree with pretty much all of what you said.
Also, Klonoa is SO freaking cute, oh my gosh. I've never seen it before but now I wanna try it. 🤩
All the developers have moved on to other IPs. At least Sony lets them do whatever they want. You just have to look at Xboxs IPs for what will happen if you keep a series going for too long.
Why is Sony the only one being criticized for actually wanting to try new things? They simply dont have enough resources to bring some of these IPs back unless they get 3rd party developers to work on them.
It's worth noting that a lot of these IPs associated with the PlayStation series are often not even owned by Sony in the first place like Crash Bandicoot (I don't know the copyright ownership of this one), Spyro (not this one either), Tomb Raider, Klonoa (Namco under Bandai Namco), Metal Gear (Konami), and many more.
Edit: However, I wouldn't say Klonoa is a series that isn't supposed to be taken seriously considering the series is meant to be cutesy on the outside with a more fleshed out story on the inside, but I guess it is sort of smaller compared to other titles these days.
With the Twisted Metal TV show being a hit on Peacock I really want them to do a new game
It was a surprising hit! I wouldn’t be opposed to a new game
Will many of these franchises come back? Only time… and nostalgia will tell.
Sony complaining about not having enough original IPs this time around is like Nintendo saying the same thing (which obviously is a lie).
The way Sony has been is just lack luster. They had great ideas in the past with their 1st party IPs that made them what they are today, but yet abandon all of them in favor of greed and generic AAA realistic graphics cinema games. The real sad part about this is the way their past IPs has been long dead with only 2 remaining are "God of War" and "Ratchet and Clank".
One of my favorite games of all time are both "LittleBigPlanet" and "ModNation Racers" on PS3, and to this day their both still fun playing since I've been replaying them through emulation on my Steam Deck since I no longer own a PS3. The way Sony treated these IPs have been unacceptable, especially with ModNation Racers (After releasing the PS VITA version as a launch title (which lacks online play and feels like a watered down version of the PS3 game) they killed it, and supposedly the sequel was in the works only to get canceled in favor of LBP Karting (which is just a blantant rip off of ModNation and worse) leading Sony to completely kill the franchise and forget it's existance). LBP got killed off due to Sony's moronic decision to rush LBP3 for the holidays instead of delaying it in 2014, only to become the Sonic 06 of the franchise. And out of nowhere Sony finally brought back Sackboy (only for a spin off Mario 3D World clone), abandoning the LBP aspect all together (including shutting down the servers for every game in the franchise).
And to add insult to injury, locking online play behind a paywall (which is a scam, considering it was free on PS3). Then soon later they not only raised up the price for it, they added 3 tiers to it (even adding backwards compatibility onto it). Sony has completely lost touch by not only killing their past IPs and free online play, but also spending their entire resources on unecessary things like the PS Portal (a PlayStation Wii U with very limited playability compared to the Wii U), a woke "Guardians of the Galaxy" knock off (that took 8 years and milions of dollars to make only to be lasted for not even 2 weeks), adding censorships to "rated M" games (Stellar Blade anyone?), amoung other things, that including the PS5 Pro (a worse gaming PC) and going woke (hiring DEI consulting groups like Sweet Baby Inc. for writing games for the "Modern Audience" and the "Snowflakes" on Twitter).
All in all, Sony now just isn't the same Sony from the PS1 to PS3 era. I have owned every main console (including hand helds), and now I just own a PS4 that's collecting dust. As for the PS5, I don't see myself owning one anytime soon. What I bought instead is a "Steam Deck", which is an amazing console/PC. On the Steam Deck, not only is online completely free, but it's also fully backwards compatable via emulation, and it's portable. So overall, I've completely lost faith in the PlayStation brand as a whole, and now i've officially switched PC gaming via Steam Deck.
There are a lot of errors in this video
5:55 Sony didn't forget about sackboy, they tried something new with Sackboy a big adventure because Dreams was the ""next"" little big planet. Neither games got that much success or support but that's another story
6:20 What was sony supposed to do? They bought the studio behind the games, pretty sure if they could have they would have also bought crash at the time
7:20 if you don't want to consider the mgs pc port, it was mgs 2 the first game to be released on other consoles other then ps2, with a xbox release the year later, also we got the hd collection and rising on other consoles
Overall i agree that sony needs to release more smaller games
Also with the final fantasy stuff 16 probably will go multiplatform sometime down the road because square is realizing putting the eggs in sonys basket isn't making them money
Gonna nitpick for a sec, but Astro Bot isn’t really a puzzle-platformer. It’s just a traditional platformer on the rocks.
Sony just needs more remasters and remakes of the Last of Us Uncharted God of War and Spider-Man tbh
LBP alone would sell a lot of consoles
Nintendo is better-anchored in traditionalism, whereas Sony (at least their top brass) are interested in constantly pushing the boundaries of what can be done. This made a lot of sense during the technology revolution that saw insanely rapid transformation of games, a very obvious example being the shift from 2D to 3D. Now the technology, including AI, has come to a point that *imagination* is far more important than further innovation of tech. It's fine for Mark Cerny to keep optimizing experiences with the magic of his gaming science, but right now Nintendo is in a better position to win the hearts of gamers.
Yeah I gotta say I’m not really into PlayStation stuff… I’ve never been in fact I’ve never owned one I just emulate that stuff but even I recognize the fun awesome wacky ness of the games made in Japan vs America it was something special. They just did whatever and I’d love for those kinds of games to exist again
The worst is that it's been 4 years and we have no idea what Sony's ace developer, Naughty Dog, is working on. They have no games announced or rumored in the pipeline. Their last game came out in 2019. Just wtf is happening at ND! Also poor Insomniac is basically turned into a Marvel company.
5:54 bro there is a Sackboy game on the PS5. Its pretty fun and it reminds of me of something like Super Mario 3D World on the Wii U. Also Sony did make another great 3d platformer this gen, Ratchet and Clank Rift Apart is a brilliant game!
For Astro bot 3 I want Sackboy to be playable and make it like super Mario Sunshine level like feel
I agree with the whole sentiment, but I would like to point out some incorrect assumptions.
As you mention, only some IPs are actually owned by SONY (parappa, ape escape, wipeout and more), but sony dropped interest in developing them around already the mid of the PS4, culinated by their closure of japan studios. This was due to those kind of smaller games often performing worse, so while on the long term it's gonna have a negative impact it's safe to assume that sony took the decision for a pure business perspective. How to market and make smaller games more successful is still something that's hard to address for many companies and for sure maybe there is some introspection to do on the gaming community at large.
Meanwhile, third party games didn´t move off the playstation because sony wasn't renovating contracts or similar, indeed sony started doing exclusivity deals around PS4! Before it didn´t happen, because in the PS1/PS2 era console internals were so different that often it wasn't just worth or possible to retool entire games for another console, especially compared to the sales units they would provide. When production cost ballooned during the PS3/X360 era we started seeing cross platformr eleases because to recoup costs it was better to try go multiplatform, despite the big difference in the PS3 hardware....and once the PS4 joined xbox in being an x86 closed down pc, alongside the rise of game engines made multiplatting your game the obvious choice, with console manufacturing paying for limited exclusivity (meanwhile in the PS1 era game devs licensed their games for the consoles!). So theird party exclusive are mostly moved by economic and trechnical factoers
Weird twisted metal isn't in the game, like did I miss anything or was there no twisted metal references, and on that note, a new twisted metal game would be fire, and a vib ribbon game using Sony game music would be dope
Fun does not mean lower scale, they can cost the same if not more than those others "Big budget" titles mentioned.
Really weird fact regarding Crash and Spyro: not only did Sony not make much or any effort to retain them... They were owned by Activision and now Activision is owned by Microsoft. Crash and Spyro, two iconic characters that helped define the PlayStation 1, are now Xbox characters.
I doubt Microsoft would keep any new Crash or Spyro games exclusive to Xbox, since they've been making a lot of stuff multiplatform. But they could. We could see the day where there's a brand new Crash or Spyro for Xbox and PC but not for PlayStation.