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Let's be honest, any of today's majority full suspension mountain bikes are capable enough for almost any trails. It's all up to rider's capabilities & their wallet size.
Depends how big you ride but it is funny seeing people ride local basically flat xcountry on 8k plus bikes lol …. But yeah if you ride big you want to be sure the bike won’t buckle beneath you if you make a mistake.
Exactly! I have this same model t8 but I'd still upgraded the rear suspension, brakes, xt shifter, tires and im happy with it.
@@fleap817 yeah we have a local trail that only really has a 50 yard stretch where a good fs would be needed. Other than that you could ride a 120 hard tail with zero worries.
That being said after 3 back surgeries, and a knee surgery I may be one of those people on a fs on those trails 😂😂😂
@@stevendrake477 totally understandable 👍🏻
Really what is the bottom of the market you would stay away from? I am currently in the market for a full suspension trail bike and As i've found more expensive just tends to lead to better components but the "lower end" isn't bad, just may not have as many features or be as ergonomic because less engineering has gone into the part at that price point.
I have 2500 miles in 7 months on my Polygon...all in the Rocks, no street and it is solid and is the ''bang for the Buck'' Bike.
This is a great edit! With some epic footage. I really dig your ratio of POV and tripod shots. Super fun to watch and very informative! Keep up the good work brother.
I have a 2022 T7 and I absolutely love it! I wanted to get the T8 but they didn't have any in stock when I had the money. I do not regret getting the cheaper model at all. It has taken everything I've thrown at it with ease. The geometry on this bike is amazing! I have a friend that rides a Stumpjumper Alloy, same size as my bike, every once in a while, we swap bikes for a mile or so. While I would still be happy if I had purchased a Stumpy like I had planned, the T7 is just slightly more playful so I'm glad I made the decision to buy it over the Stumpy. It was cheaper and nearly the same spec parts.
I have the 2019 Polygon Siskiu T8 and have just upgraded to a Santa Cruz Bronson... and I totally agree with everything you say. The Polygon is very capable and fun. Anyone who gets one will not be disappointed!
Cheers! And thanks for echoing the message!🤜🏼🤛🏼
I’ll be honest, audible chuckle at “heavy 35lb bike”. I grew up riding a 50lb bmx 🤣
This is good stuff. We need more side by side comparisons of the different brands and not bikes that are 10k either. I have the 2021 T8 and love it...Enjoy your video style and wish I could ride like that. Knew you'd make that climb. Subbed for ya.
Cheers bro! Happy to have you in the audience! 🤘🏻
i am thinking of buying a 2018 version second hand would you recomend it?
I love my T8. Just switched to a fox dpx2 elite in the rear. Much better pedaling performance and softer ride. It feels like I added more travel. Reliability has been great for me over the 1.5 years so far.
Nice! Good to hear!
I love my T8 and would purchase again in a heartbeat, but I felt like the rear suspension needed a upgrade. I took the rear shock off to measure it and noticed the rear swing arm did not move freely. Four of the six bearings that let the rear suspension pivot were locked up. I know I could have had them warrantied, but they cost 10 dollars on Amazon and took less then a hour to install. WOW!!! back to the day I got it.
My T8 is just over 31lbs after a few upgrades. Spank 359 hoops with Hope pro4 hubs. Maxxis minion dhf in front and rekon in rear, both 2.6. SLX 4 piston brakes and SLX cranks. Spank spike35 bar and Spank spoon stem. Ergon sm pro saddle and ge1 grips. Crank brothers stamp 1 pedals.
Sounds like some quality upgrades. I highly recommend the Wolf Tooth Headset. Not too expensive and it's like butta........
Yeah I’m stock pilling a few carbon parts right now for a future upgrade video… can’t wait to pump this guy out!🤘🏻
Your content is great. And this video just goes to show that you don’t need to buy the highest tier bike in the segment for it to be capable and reliable. Mountain bikes have come so far that the bottom trim levels can almost compete with top trims of 3-5 years ago.
Truer words were never spoken! Kim blown away by how capable this bike is! Might take a beating during a full park day but for 95% of the trails I ride, it’s perfect!
Agree. Different sector but I bought a 2021 Vitus Rapide FS for UK £ 2,500 and it's absolutely as good as mate's Scott Spark at double the price.
This is my dream bike. So when i hear entry level and budget bike being throw around you know tje world is messed up.😢
I think 🤔 29 trail bikes are probably the funnest for most situations. And can still do most enduros, river trails, jump lines, bike parks and even xc. But best of all shred trails! 🕺
Yeah buddy!!!
These frames are poor quality and heavy. I had a T8 crack at the seat tube weld and it's a common issue. You're also dealing with Indonesians who don't speak English as a first language, know much about bikes and have low standards of customer service - these guys couldn't even provide spec sheets or know what headset cup size the T8 used!
Giant make the best quality frames at a low price point and have excellent warranty and after sales service, so that's what I'd recommend to anyone riding a bike reasonably hard.
my exp has been as an Australian where bicycles online (the parent of bikes online) sells a lot of volume. Also have a 2020 Commencal Meta AM and 2022 Giant E-Reign. I sold the Siskiu after I got a new frame under warranty.
Great video. Like the Charcoal over the purple. Bother in law has one, and jumps it at two local bike parks. May will be his 1 yr ownership mark with no issues. BTW, he’s rocking it at 55yrs old. I have the T7, and secretly wishing I got the T8.
Nice! 55 and and still at it!🤘🏻
Good video! The multiple people in shot reminds me of Jake Carlini
Evan’s in the house!!!!! Thanks brother! I appreciate the kind words! Means a lot coming from you! Hey I tried messaging you on Insta to get some advice “UA-cam stuff” but you don’t follow me so it didn’t go through. I’d love to connect and run stuff by you once in a while… Cheers!🤘🏻
My 170mm travel size Lg weighs 31.6lbs. Trail bikes should be able to climb well, especially mid travel ones. This bike looks pretty solid for $2,500.
Greetings from Vienna to all brothers and sisters! 🙂 Love your Chanel keep up the great work
Cheers Chapo! Appreciate the kind words!
Love my t8 best bang for buck bike on the market
I love it too! Sad I have to give this one back in a few months…
The T8 will be my main trail bike for a year in February. I still enjoy the hell out of it.
Ive rode both before. Both are very capable bikes. The T8 is more of a jack of all trades and master of none. The Meta is more downhill oriented and climbs a bit 'sluggishly' but a really fun bike to steeze in too. I guess its just down to personal preference and budget.
Great edit and review!
Cheers!🤜🏼🤛🏼
7:26… I was ALL on board until he said “3 5 P O UN D S”!!!
Looking forward to the video of how you are gonna make that bike lighter. 🚲👍
Thanks for posting!! Great review!
Cheers! Thanks for watching! And the kind words!🤜🏼🤛🏼
I just started Mountain Biking late last year with no preivous relatable experience (e.g Motorcross, BMX, Road biking etc) and stretched the budget after doing some hefty research on bang-for-buck beginner bikes.
So far, I am absolutely loving it, and all the comparison reviews that I've watched since buying it, have left me confident that I made a good choice for my first mountain bike. This ought to get me by for years as I learn the basics and improve my skills.
Thankfully I haven't had the pleasure of trying any of the ones that linger in and around the 5 figure price point because I'm fully priced out of that range, but it's a shame that the barrier-to-entry is so high, because it's such a fun activity.
My one petty wish is that the all-black version was available from my local retailer, as I'm not the biggest fan of the Purple and black one.
Yeah the new colour way is just👌🏻
Yeah, it's not bad, but I'm referring to the all black with 'polygon' in Orange on the underside of the down tube. 👌
You have a local polygon retailer? They’re an online only bike company
@@Smegma_pirateI bought mine locally from MEC in Canada.
Probably just depends on the region you're in.
I love my 2022 Orange P7. Comfy Strong Steel. Under 2000 on sale.
It’s good to see affordable mtn bikes. 35 lbs is heavy for a trail bike tho. Still, better to be riding a heavy but fun and capable bike than none at all.
Agreed! And like I said in the video… it doesn’t ride heavy. I’m sure carbon hoops, cranks and bars will help lighten it up but that defeats the affordable part.
@@TopToBottomMTB Its better to upgrade over time anyways, most bikes when bought new come with lower end parts. When buying a bike new its the frame you really need to be buying. Most of the parts you will probably replace anyways. Well unless you buy a $10k bike, that's an absolute waste of money unless you have more than you know what to do with. Usually a person who knows how to work on their own bike and has an aptitude to be able to replace the parts has a better knowledge on what's the best bike for the best trail. Allot of people would be better off buying a hardtail than a full suspension starting out.
I would love to see you testing a YT Izzo, 10mm less travel than this and lighter.
Maybe one day… I’d love to work with YT. Really nice bikes!
Awesome editing and review skills!
Thanks Kyle! Cheers!🤜🏼🤛🏼
At my local trails 60 year old lady’s Cruze up the hill on 10 grand bikes. Who convinced them they need that 😂
Great content very enjoyable viewing experience. Keep it up!
Cheers homie!🤜🏼🤛🏼
Doing a disservice to commencal comparing the T8 to meta am. You could get a more similar meta tr for the same price point as the T8.
No chance of getting a Commencal meta tr with Fox suspension for 2k.🥵
1:23 430mm HA!? Use to own a Polygon Siskiu N8... I blinged it out w/ better hoops (Spank rims on DT Swiss hubs), Factory 36 fork (@170mm), Marzzochi coil shock, Spank bar & stem, XT/SLX 11 speed drivetrain, Maxxis rubber - Assegai front w/ Aggressor rear.
Rattly cables (internally), less then supple rear end (despite the coil) & outdated geo (I even tried it as a Mullet)... Meant I moved on (frame wise at least).
In stepped a Banshee Phantom V3 frame, which was almost the same price as the full N8 bike 🤯
Was it a worthwhile upgrade?
Dang Skippy it was!!
The Banshee Phantom V3 is a much better bike all around. Ymmv 👈
That’s sounds like a sick build! I love upgrading bikes and can’t wait to throw some high end parts on this one. Cheers!🤘🏻
very nice editing!
Thanks Tim! Cheers!🤜🏼🤛🏼
Definitely interesteed now, my LBS has these in stock!!
Oooooohh👀
Great channel, by way of saying thanks I liked and subscribed. Looking forward to watching you ride the T8 down A-line. I ordered a T8 med/27.5 on black Friday for $2k. I've been riding a Polygon Xtrada large/29er and ordered a med/27.5 for my girlfriend. Riding both myself this last year has helped me determine the frame and wheel size that works best for me. Look forward to your next video. Keep up the good work and thanks again !
Thanks David! Appreciate your support!🤘🏻
What made you chose the 27.5 model?
@@TopToBottomMTB A tale of two Xtrada's. I rode the large 29er and med 27.5 all year on the same local trails and found the 29er more enjoyable on the fast flowing blues and the nimble 27.5 more on the steeper technical black with rocks and tight switchbacks and jumps along the trail where short chain stays shine and manuals are easier. The suspension is also increased to F150/R140. So I purchased two full suspension bikes on black Friday for the same reason. T8 27.5 and Canyon Neuron 5 29er. Cost T8 $2000 Neuron $1599
@@davidcrawford9421 I'm facing the same dilemma but without an opportunity to try both; at 5'10" 145lbs, the web site recommends a L/29 but I think I'd be happier with a M/27.5. Thoughts?
Great video. Nice bike. Love Thornhill. Might be going there today.
Thanks homie! Love that place! Wish I could go with you! Got family stuff to do though… Cheers!🤘🏻
@@TopToBottomMTB Nice!
Checked their website. This bikes look great! For all my friends and fam who say that they "don't need a full suspension modern bike cause they already have a great bike".... No... No you don't.
These - 85% the bike for 30% the cost. Great highly capable full suspension for the masses.
It climbs? They really fixed the pedal bob issues back from 2017 then. I have a D7 from back then and it does not like climbing, needs full damping to avoid extreme pedal bob. I guess they didn't really have to care back then when they still had the T series was a Collosus, because the Collosus T8 climbs almost as well as the Syncline.
I doubt there will be any reliability issues, it's a Polygon, we have jokes about cars getting damaged more than your bike if they hit you while on a Polygon lol.
Great review
Thanks Mike! That was a fun one to film and edit… Cheers!🤘🏻
Can you do a similar test of the Siskiu D7 or D7 SE please? Thanks
I’ll ask Polygon…
I have a polygon t7 and its also good for me.
Nice! Have you changed/upgraded anything on it?
Groupset was swapped with my 1x12 shimano slx and brakeset quad piston slx front and rear. Disc rotor was also changed to both 203 mm
Very cool! great video!
Thx Spence!🤘🏻
excellent explanation good examples very good review, let's see how it is with less weight
Cheers! I’ll make this into a monster!🤘🏻
Ordered mine yesterday
Congrats! You’re gonna love it!🤘🏻
I have a 2021 stumpjumper alloy in black. Awesome bike but ive been wanting to buy on of these also. But reliability is a concern. My specialized doesnt have as good components as the t8 but i feel its a work horse. It sits at 35lbs as well but im a big guy that makes it work. Can you compare these 2 from experience? Awesome review!!
“Technical climb trail”…come on dude that was a flow trail with one root/rock. 😂
🤣 little GoPro effect there…😉
I will agree with you on that is it that it is in amazing bike to jump because I'm only 92 lbs And 11 year olds old
Love your videos man! One question, how do you attach your gopro to the chinbar of the helmet? I like your pov a lot and I need some tips to make my mount aswell. Cheers!
There’s a lot of Etsy shops that make 3D printed mounts for specific full face helmets… just search for yours and order one. I made mine with a chopped up 1/4 camera attachment and zip ties. Should have just ordered one myself… 🤦🏻♂️
Polygon siskiu t 8 looks good plays nice., great ride!
“Plays nice” love it! Definitely agree on that! Great bike for the $
love this episode! could you do a timed trial on both bikes on the same trail?
love from Indonesia
Sick bike brother. Bikes online warehouse is like 8 miles from my house.
Thanks! Where’s the Warehouse?
Did you make the vid yet on attempting to make it under 30lbs?! New subscriber enjoying the channel man!
Glad to have you in the audience! 🍻Made this upgrades video! Didn’t really focus on the weight so much as changes that would make the biggest difference in performance…
ua-cam.com/video/phW9saiB5cg/v-deo.html
@@TopToBottomMTB thanks for the link!
Love from Australia
Cheers Mate!🤘🏻
Wish they updated HTA geo to 64.5 or 65 even, Yeah it's only .5 degree from 65.5 to 65 but I still want it. Also, T8/T7 have a well earned reputation for cracking frames at seat tube top tube intersect. No real word from mfg if thats been addressed with new production runs. All info is "fluff" without meaingful detail on stuff like that. Anyways, I was very serious looking at this as my next bike but have decided to go elsewhere. I do hope the brand becomes a stronger player and their bikes continue improving while maitain reasonable pricing.
Headtube angle is easily slackened with a slightly longer fork or an adjustable head angle headset… What bike did you end up going with?
@@TopToBottomMTB Specialized 2022 Stumpjumper Evo Aluminum Comp. $3,300 total including tax and shipping
I loved my t8 ……..but two cracked frames, 1 failed hub and 2 failed rims in 2 1/2 years tell me where they are cutting costs. It’s a great bike for occasional rides but if you’re like me and riding more than 60miles/100km a week you need a better bike. It’s just not strong enough. I’m going back to a hardtail. Commencal Meta HT AM
Thanks for sharing the insight!🤜🏼🤛🏼
@Top To Bottom MTB. Hey, man. There is another bike on the European market that is very similarly priced and equipped. It's CUBE Stereo One22 Race model no 653200. Could you please compare these two bikes in a few wrods? I find the German one much more visually attractive. What do you think? Thanks.
Great video! Does anyone know why Polygon have a reputation for cracked frames? Is this something they have now resolved? I'd imagine if they can survive that kind of treatment, they are pretty reliable!.
I’m sure the beginnings for any bike brands has a few issues to remedy… I have 4 of they’re bikes now and ride them hard… no issues anymore👌🏻
This is Thornhill? THIS IS THORNHILL!!! 😍🤣
What mudguard are you rocking on the Poly? Looks mad sick imo
Thanks Kaze! It’s a Mudhugger EVO long.
Polygon rules
Why ? What exactly makes the t8 better to climb than the canyon neuron 6?
This bike is my............ dream !
It’s soooo good! And great value!
Polygon t8 or Merida one forty 500 ?
Sick video as always ! Was that your son running after you @1:43? Lol. Hey man happy new year by the way!! This year is gonna be big for you !!
OG Jessy in the house!! Cheers! Same to you and yours! Gonna be a GREAT year if I can get a bunch more Jesses in the audience!🤘🏻
@@TopToBottomMTB what size is the bike?
Polygon T8 or Canyon Neuron 6 Al 2023 ?
Both great bikes! Canyon is a tiny bit more on the XC side but looks like an awesome all-rounder! And I can’t say enough about my Siskiu T8… such a fun bike! Rides well above its price range and is super capable anywhere I’ve taken it! 🤘🏻
To go down, I have to go up first. Which of the two mtb is more capable on climbs?@@TopToBottomMTB
ok@@TopToBottomMTB
@@sergiustancu561 definitely the Siskiu T8! Such a better climber!
@@TopToBottomMTB Why ? What exactly makes the t8 better to climb ?
Hey, can you help me with choice....
I can buy 2 used bikes in same price..
1.Polygon Siskiu t8 27,5 150/140
2.Canyon Spectral AL6 2020 27,5 160/150
Which one will be better trail / enduro and some jumpy style riding?
Canyon have better suspension barkes and rims
I Can also change fork and brakes in polygon for parts from Canyon
Any ideas?
I’d go Siskiu all the way… love mine!
Im thinking about coil but its heavy... Maybe just fox dpx2
Could you put it up against a Propaine Tyee?
I’d love to work with Propane one day… super sick looking bikes!
Iv found the parts on cheaper bikes just wear out faster. Cheap dropper doesn’t last , wheels break , bend easier. Cheep cassette heavier and wears faster. Cheep shocks blow. But the more expensive bike isn’t making you better really.
No way, most of expensive bikes are hugely over priced . First and for most : it depends of will, skills and physical shape and determination.
My area FB Marketplace had 3 new Polygons on it last I checked. So lots of people are buying them or getting rid of them or both.
The used market is saturated period with ALL types of bikes… not just Polygons. So many bought bikes to ride during Covid as there was nothing else to do and have now gone back to the gyms and regular Pre-Covid activities… if you want a deal on a lightly used bike, now is the strike!
Of course good
Do you think the T8 would survive a few yearly park trips?
Oh yeah! No problem!
I'd love for you to compare the feel of that Polygon to the Vitus Mythique AMP. Super similar in pricing and spec! The Loam Ranger guys loved it, I wonder if you would too!
If I can get my hands on one for sure!
Wheel size 27.5 or 29?
I ride the 29” but in size small and medium, you can also get the bike in 27.5”
Interested on how you make this bike lighter..
Tubeless, carbon wheels, carbon bars, lighter drivetrain components… tons of places to shave off some weight.
How old are you? I just turned 35 this year and feel like my stamina is so bad now I can hardly enjoy mtb anymore 😢
39
Is 7005 aluminum reliable enough for a downhill biking?
I’m no engineer… just a regular Ben who likes to ride bikes and make videos… sorry.
No, for most people a middle of the road mountain bike is more than enough, spending more won't make you go any faster
Very true!
Polygon are OK but not a patch on commi's
Both great bikes…
Polygon t8 or Merida one forty 500 ?
T8 all the way! Better FOX suspension!
I have a Polygon T7 with a Rockshox Gold 35 fork and I run out of talent, or kahunas, long before it runs out of capability
That bike kind of looks like a YT Jeffsy. I have rode that bike and a Commencal Meta TR and the Meta TR rides much better than that bike. Ride them back to back and you will see.
Meta gang woot woot
Can I the NEW 2023 SRAM Eagle AXS Wireless Transmission be mounted on the polygon t8?
Not sure… I’ll look into it and get back to you if I find out.
@@TopToBottomMTB ok
I just purchased this bike from a local distributor for $1740 USD out the door.
It looks like youre riding a medium frame in this video. Do you mind me asking your height?
Mediums were all they had left and I'm 5'9" which is top of the scale for this frame size. Do you think it will be okay for me? I'm in between sizes as they say...
I’m 5’9”
I ride a medium👌🏻
@@TopToBottomMTB That's awesome! Thank you for the quick response.
I'm a complete beginner and looking forward to getting started at the young age of 37, lol. I loved riding cross country when I was young and currently do some road biking as well.
You got offered to keep this bike free or really cheap in exchange for a favourable review... of course you reviewed it favourably lol
Nope! Everything is the honest truth… I’m hopping to build a reputation as an honest regular joe that loves to ride bikes. If it’s not hitting the mark I’ll definitely be telling you guys… The only thing I would change on the bike is the weight, as stated in the video. The geo, suspension, brakes, and drivetrain all feel really good! Not the BEST components out there but for $2600… 👌🏻
When Will this be in stock
You in the US or AUS?
Polygon T8 size?
I’m 5’9” and ride a medium… 👌🏻
Really wish I’d gone with a T8 instead of the D6 that I bought. Needing that additional travel. Hindsight is 20/20 I guess.
A good bike will help you grow your skills… D6 did the job, now time to get serious!💪🏻
T8 is 2k rn. I would buy it while you can
How generous of them allowing you to buy a bike from them lmao
At a discount… it’s our first time working together… I’m just happy they’re giving me a chance to make content with them! Cheers!🤘🏻
Are you riding in canada
Yep! I’m near Vancouver.
I test drove a used T7 and there were a few upgrades to it...but every time I tried bunnyhopping it seemed to not stay straight in the air. Like it dogwalked like a car with some frame damage. I ended up walking away from that purchase and wished him well on the sell...but coming from an early 90's Specialized Rockhopper 26". These newer bikes seem so much heavier and less flingable. I presently have a Walgoose Ledge X1 that I am gonna try upgrading as I go. I'm a weight weenie on a budget and figured if I can get the Walgoose (Wal-Mart Mongoose) to be as good a ride for a total of under $1,500.00. Then I did okay. Got to get some hydraulic brakes for this beast and I wanna upgrade everything but the frame...as with the reviews I've seen...the bike is worth the price...but for anything more than leisure sidewalk rail trail type of environment....this thing is a liability to the rider....
I look forward to see the upgrades for the bike you got and depending on my funds...and priority....cuz bills etc... I may follow your lead on what to buy. Thanks for the vid!
Cheers! Thanks for the support!🤘🏻
Okay, what is the subliminal messaging in that composite shot at the beginning?
What do you mean? You lost me.
3 of the same dude come out, one by one. One talks, then stops talking and just stands there. The other one does the same, then the third one... What is this illuminati shit?
Bike is all fine and dandy until the top tube gets the "Polygon crack" that they all eventually get and warranty ignores you completely.
I'll pass on the elephant heavy of a Polygon trail bike.
It really doesn’t ride heavy… Did you crack a polygon frame? What frame was it?
@@TopToBottomMTBThe T series tends to crack where the head tube and seat tube meet. I’ve been riding one hard (enduro racing and casing jumps) for about a year now and haven’t had a problem. If it cracks they’ll send you an updated frame
lol my $800 marin hardtail can do all that
Your height and the size of your bike?
5’9” and it’s a medium 👌🏻
@@TopToBottomMTB thanks
How tall are you?
@@TopToBottomMTB 5' 11". Not sure M or L is suitable for me, L seems larger suitable for 6' and above
Id go large… the med is on the small side for me…
Who on earth spends 5 grand on a push iron. You need your head lumps feeling
Someone who loves bikes… Have you ever invested a decent amount on your well-being, health, enjoyment… 5K is a small price to pay for all that if you ask me. Plus I get to sell the bike and recoup most of that back. To roll into a new steed in a few years…
expensive bike + beginner rider = riding skill
vs half price bike + amateur rider
Comparing old bike geo to current model year
True! The Meta is a 2019… But on paper, they have the exact same geo…
super bike
Thanks ✌️
Side by sides are great but..... You picked the absolute best 2,600 bike that's been made made in forever. That Poly makes a living making (luxury bikes) look dumb. Honestly with all the polygon hype that's everywhere. This just seems like another Polygon commercial. Peace ....
I genuinely love riding that bike and I’m truly blown away by how capable it is… not a commercial. Cheers!
@Top To Bottom MTB All heard, and I believe ya wholeheartedly. ...Just seemed like easy content 😁. Find us the Diamond that's hiding out there at a reasonable price. Again peace my friend....Good stuff!
Believe me if anything happens to the bike will make it into the 6mth long term review video before sending the bike back to bikes online. (Unless I decide to buy it…) I value your viewership and strive to stay honest and unfiltered. ✌🏻