This is an easy choice to make . its the TS-464 or in my case the TS-664 running Truesnas . This is one badass setup and the ZFS snapshot and Truenas performance are phenomenal. What amazes me is I'm able to consolidate 3 PC servers running VMware onto this single system. Now I just need to get another TS-664 so I can do ZFS replications.
@@GG-kc9cz there are a few ways to do it. If you are staying with the same manufacturer it’s very easy. The easiest way with Synology is to basically move the drives (in order) to the new NAS and use the migration wizard-the new NAS will recognize the drives from a different Synology and offer you to migrate. I have done this a few times, but as always, have a backup of your data. Otherwise, you can install a new NAS with only a few drives and manually move the data over. With Synology SHR, you can add drives as your budget allows to expand-much better in my opinion than traditional RAID 5.
I was looking for a Plex media streaming NAS and found your website and then channel and I just wanted to say that you've been incredibly helpful and informative! Thank you! I really appreciate the detail you go into and it has really helped to inform my decision.
@@jhartigan82 I went with his website's recommendation in the end, the QNAP TS-464. Loaded it with 2x12TB drives for now but plan to get an M.2 in there too for caching. So far it's been runing like a beauty!
Im getting ready to buy a qnap. Synology restricting their drives and being so propitiatory about everything kills it for me. Currently running Truesnas on an old pc and I think Im a little bit in over my head and would like a more user friendly machine. Im not worried about their past ransomware attack (Im sure they will fix things.. its happens) . Everything you have should be backed up in a second location and never put anything with sensitive info on something attached to the internet anyway. Encrypt a couple thumb-drives with veracrypt for all your log-ins, passwords, crypto seed phrases..etc BTW.. I love your channel. TY for all the great info.
Great video, agreed with your conclusions! However, Synology is basically pricing itself out of the market with accepting none other it's own heavily overprices hdd's en ssd's, which are all Toshiba's with a slight overhaul. So no, not gonna get that.
Great video! I fully agree that the 923+ has grown on me as well, but I still feel the same about the company. QNAP in general seems to be catching up quicker in software than Synology is catching up in hardware. @Nascompares would you please post a video on the TS-453e? To me the 453e has really grown on me, the faster m2's and being perfect with multichannel, it really checks all the boxes. To me it is the 453e or a full intel QNAP offering. The 453E I think now deserves more than an honorable mention in the top picks, many months in production it is exceptional.
Multiple questions for you: 1) What is faster to use? 10 gbit connection or the USB connection? Is there any difference (usb vs ethernet) if I use spinning hard drives? 2) Is there any point of using the SSD chache for photoediting, when most of the time Lightroom dont interact with original files very often. Or will it speed up transfer/writrs to the NAS too? Not just reads? 3) Can you use wifi-expansion cards with either of these?
A video request/ idea Low profile GPUs for nas with no IGPU like the Ryzen NAS' - what is availiable from the 10xx, 20xx and 30xx series - and what do they really provide in terms of concurrent streams/ encode.
Another problem with the 10gbe card, no wol support. You have to muck around with using the 1gbe port for wol support, but with a non existent IP. That's another cockup. Synology are off my list, after 15 years.
I absolutely hate this video! I was going to buy a DS923+ and because of this video I am now undecided. I'm already running a DS918+ now so I can't decide to stick with what I'm familiar with or want to learn something new. Actually a good video, just putting too many options in my basket. I'm getting too indecisive in my old age.
I bought a 453E because is was the best value, and it frankly has gotten better with time. If your only doing file serving either one works fine and the 923+ will be a bit faster, if you want to you use it for other applications get the 464. Can't go wrong really. I really detest the direction Synology as a company has been going, I feel I'm just squeezed ever step I take with them. Profitability is a good thing, but there has to be a balance that. Good luck.
I have a 916+ and heard about some issues with snology and older NAS support....ca you elaborate on this. I am not an expert, and just want a plug n play solution without dealing with licensing issues, and just works till it craps out. or am i asking too much in todays "you will own nothing" mentality
WARNING: If you are thinking about buying a QNAP. The built in Download Station on the QNAP does NOT support auto extract of completetd torrents as you are used to on the Synology Download station. Extracting your files on the QNAP is a real hazzle compared to the Synology. So if that is important for you, then DON'T BUY THE QNAP.
Hi! Please, I really do not understand why people are bothering about transcodeing on DS923+. I really do not understand? I have it on DS923+ and everything is running great. Plex server, DS 923+, is doing transcodeing only for computers, mobile phone, etc. that doest not support 4K and than Plex server, DS 923 + have to make it for them. Today and for in past of 10 years most of all technicial devices have that support. Is there something more that I do not know? As I said my DS923+ is running all movies and shows without any problem. Just one thing that I done is that I put OPENVPN on my mobile phone and it runs everything much quicker. Is there something that I'm missing? Thanks in advance. Elvir
elvir, so the 923+ plays Plex with no issues, yes? I'm in the market for a new NAS, but i watch movies with closed captions. on. Can't hear worth a darn any longer. Will i have an issue here? thank you!
@@rdbjr52 Hi, I did not have any problems because all movies were played on 720p or 1080p and Directly. A devices like notebook, phone and good TV is playing Al for me that support that and trancoding is not giving me Synology but device.... and as I said it is playing directly without transcode so I did not have any issues. Also, if you play it in your home, not from outside where ih use OpenVPN, you should play all good. 👍
I have a DS918+ for years and couldn’t be happier and more satisfied.
This is an easy choice to make . its the TS-464 or in my case the TS-664 running Truesnas . This is one badass setup and the ZFS snapshot and Truenas performance are phenomenal.
What amazes me is I'm able to consolidate 3 PC servers running VMware onto this single system. Now I just need to get another TS-664 so I can do ZFS replications.
You are great, i only wish I was into NAS enough to maintain my interest apart from when I’m looking to buy a new nas !
I have a DS418 and wanted to upgrade. I was looking at the 923+ but went with a 920+ because of integrated graphics/Plex. Great video!!
How do you move all data from old nas to new nas ? Thanks !
@@GG-kc9cz there are a few ways to do it. If you are staying with the same manufacturer it’s very easy. The easiest way with Synology is to basically move the drives (in order) to the new NAS and use the migration wizard-the new NAS will recognize the drives from a different Synology and offer you to migrate. I have done this a few times, but as always, have a backup of your data. Otherwise, you can install a new NAS with only a few drives and manually move the data over. With Synology SHR, you can add drives as your budget allows to expand-much better in my opinion than traditional RAID 5.
Can't even get a 920+ for a decent price anymore
I was looking for a Plex media streaming NAS and found your website and then channel and I just wanted to say that you've been incredibly helpful and informative! Thank you! I really appreciate the detail you go into and it has really helped to inform my decision.
what did you decide on?
@@jhartigan82 I went with his website's recommendation in the end, the QNAP TS-464. Loaded it with 2x12TB drives for now but plan to get an M.2 in there too for caching. So far it's been runing like a beauty!
Im getting ready to buy a qnap. Synology restricting their drives and being so propitiatory about everything kills it for me. Currently running Truesnas on an old pc and I think Im a little bit in over my head and would like a more user friendly machine. Im not worried about their past ransomware attack (Im sure they will fix things.. its happens) . Everything you have should be backed up in a second location and never put anything with sensitive info on something attached to the internet anyway. Encrypt a couple thumb-drives with veracrypt for all your log-ins, passwords, crypto seed phrases..etc BTW.. I love your channel. TY for all the great info.
Great video, agreed with your conclusions! However, Synology is basically pricing itself out of the market with accepting none other it's own heavily overprices hdd's en ssd's, which are all Toshiba's with a slight overhaul. So no, not gonna get that.
Great video! I fully agree that the 923+ has grown on me as well, but I still feel the same about the company. QNAP in general seems to be catching up quicker in software than Synology is catching up in hardware. @Nascompares would you please post a video on the TS-453e? To me the 453e has really grown on me, the faster m2's and being perfect with multichannel, it really checks all the boxes. To me it is the 453e or a full intel QNAP offering. The 453E I think now deserves more than an honorable mention in the top picks, many months in production it is exceptional.
Can I say that I am already looking forward to their x25/x26 portfolio? I mean, sooner or later they must come up with a new NAS that is actually new
Multiple questions for you:
1) What is faster to use? 10 gbit connection or the USB connection? Is there any difference (usb vs ethernet) if I use spinning hard drives?
2) Is there any point of using the SSD chache for photoediting, when most of the time Lightroom dont interact with original files very often. Or will it speed up transfer/writrs to the NAS too? Not just reads?
3) Can you use wifi-expansion cards with either of these?
A video request/ idea
Low profile GPUs for nas with no IGPU like the Ryzen NAS' - what is availiable from the 10xx, 20xx and 30xx series - and what do they really provide in terms of concurrent streams/ encode.
Best NAS for photographers
Another problem with the 10gbe card, no wol support. You have to muck around with using the 1gbe port for wol support, but with a non existent IP.
That's another cockup.
Synology are off my list, after 15 years.
I just use a scheduled starts/shutdowns.
@@domantlen6231 which is what I use most of the time... But sometimes I need to wake it up while on the sofa and it's in the loft office...
I absolutely hate this video! I was going to buy a DS923+ and because of this video I am now undecided. I'm already running a DS918+ now so I can't decide to stick with what I'm familiar with or want to learn something new. Actually a good video, just putting too many options in my basket. I'm getting too indecisive in my old age.
I bought a 453E because is was the best value, and it frankly has gotten better with time. If your only doing file serving either one works fine and the 923+ will be a bit faster, if you want to you use it for other applications get the 464. Can't go wrong really. I really detest the direction Synology as a company has been going, I feel I'm just squeezed ever step I take with them. Profitability is a good thing, but there has to be a balance that. Good luck.
:) Me too
Why are you considering upgrading your 918+? I am asking because I have the same box as my main NAS at the moment.
I have a 916+ and heard about some issues with snology and older NAS support....ca you elaborate on this. I am not an expert, and just want a plug n play solution without dealing with licensing issues, and just works till it craps out. or am i asking too much in todays "you will own nothing" mentality
WARNING: If you are thinking about buying a QNAP. The built in Download Station on the QNAP does NOT support auto extract of completetd torrents as you are used to on the Synology Download station. Extracting your files on the QNAP is a real hazzle compared to the Synology. So if that is important for you, then DON'T BUY THE QNAP.
not possible? how does this work in qnap?
Thank you
Hi!
Please, I really do not understand why people are bothering about transcodeing on DS923+. I really do not understand?
I have it on DS923+ and everything is running great. Plex server, DS 923+, is doing transcodeing only for computers, mobile phone, etc. that doest not support 4K and than Plex server, DS 923 + have to make it for them.
Today and for in past of 10 years most of all technicial devices have that support.
Is there something more that I do not know?
As I said my DS923+ is running all movies and shows without any problem.
Just one thing that I done is that I put OPENVPN on my mobile phone and it runs everything much quicker.
Is there something that I'm missing?
Thanks in advance.
Elvir
elvir, so the 923+ plays Plex with no issues, yes? I'm in the market for a new NAS, but i watch movies with closed captions. on. Can't hear worth a darn any longer. Will i have an issue here? thank you!
@@rdbjr52 Hi, I did not have any problems because all movies were played on 720p or 1080p and Directly. A devices like notebook, phone and good TV is playing Al for me that support that and trancoding is not giving me Synology but device.... and as I said it is playing directly without transcode so I did not have any issues. Also, if you play it in your home, not from outside where ih use OpenVPN, you should play all good. 👍
You got a NAS for sale lol.
Might have to do some sales of the 2020 gen devices, yeah!
Lacking good cpu is shameless. Just a few dollars more.
Please giveaway 1 NAS for me. 😂. Very good work Sir.
stick to cricket lingam