New Moto Guzzi Stelvio (2024) | First Ride Review
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- Опубліковано 31 тра 2024
- #review of the 2024 #motoguzzi Stelvio #motorcycle by BikeSocial's Simon Hargreaves. Moto Guzzi Stelvio debuts their water-cooled V100 engine in the long-awaited adventure bike for 2024.
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CHAPTERS
00:00 - Welcome
00:45 - On-board with model history
03:18 - Specifications
10:16 - Front & rear radar
12:00 - Prices
13:00 - Verdict begins
14:56 - Riding position, engine & mpg
19:00 - Screen & handling
26:40 - Outro
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I really love the new Stelvio, excellent machine. Once I set the sag properly the bike handled like a dream. The engine is a jewel and feels like it puts out more power than Guzzi says it does. Imagine that, an Italian motorcycle manufacturer that understates HP numbers! lol. Overall I am extremely pleased with the Stelvio. Bravo MotoGuzzi!
Great review. I was waiting for the V85TT comparison. These are now selling for £9499 or £10499 for the 'Tour.' More fun, more enjoyable and have the all important Guzzi character.🍔🍟
Thanks Simon. Informative and detailed as always.
Thanks for another great review 👍
Nowadays (oh God I already sound like an old person) everyone can strap a camera to themselves, go to a dealer and publish a video review. But there's just something different about people like Simon or Adam Child or Chris Northover for example. Keep up the good work, this coverage is always valuable to us followers of bike news and prospective buyers.
There's nothing different. They are all toeing the party line now. Especially now Bauer media have them by the balls. That's why you have that dick Chad doing reviews for every publication. Diversity? Do me a favour
Beautiful looking bike,great review,but personally still prefer the looks of the v85tt.
Great review thanks. First one I've seen where I actually had a good idea of what the bike is like.
Great review Simon as always, (you’re the most personable and informative reviewer at Bike Social! The V85TT would be my choice - it prettier! 🙏😀
My favourite reviewer Simon always prepared and who actually can ride and no talk about buy me a coffee or patreon 👌❤️
Thanks, but... about that coffee... 😁
I think the Stelvio will be a good seller for Guzzi. Personally, however, seeing the 2024 iteration of the V85TT and the improvements made, I’d put my folding on the smaller air cooled bike. Looking forward to your review, Simon, of the new V85.
variable valve timing along with a ecu flash could make it a preferable experience to something like the vstrom 800. hmmm
@davidfuchser
Agreed…..I’d buy the V85TT over an 800Vstrom and and the new 750 Transalp.
Great Review as ever 👍
Super impressive bike. The best looking of the adventure styled bikes in my opinion. Simon's ability to chat, recall facts and ride at pace is a brilliant skill.
Love your reviews, Simon. Have been waiting for this one. It actually very much reminds me of my Super Tenere ES...of which has quietly been put back into their '24 lineup (Anyone else notice that? Probably not...). It seems, like the ST, the more time spent, the more the bike will make sense. It sounds to be really capable and - for the most part; after all it IS Italian - very well-thought-out, and an excellent tripper. Love the looks, the new motor, the complement of features. In a moment of weakness, I could possibly buy one. But (talking of elephants), I'll wait to see how these water-coolers do in the wild after the miles pack on. Utter reliability is the one thing my ST has that would be extremely difficult to give up, and why it's still in their lineup. Surprisingly capable, exceptionally dependable. The two features you can't do without on 1000-mile trips. Hope MG has that worked out!
Great review. Many thanks. Surely the tiger 900 Gt Pro is also a direct competitor……cheaper, and with all the extras as standard. Love all of your videos. Cheers.
Interesting review. Alan Cathcart's review was glowing!
Thanks for that thought provoking review !!! Owned the Mandello S last year (briefly) until it was written off when 1 month old due to diesel on the road 😖 but thoroughly loved the bike ! Was confidence inspiring in the twisties. Was planning to just get another but thats when the launch of the Stelvio sparked my interest. Keen to go for the PFF model which is the one with the uprated radar tech. Waiting to test ride the Stelvio ! But by the sounds of your review, probably best going for the Mandello S with the semi active suspension 🤷♂️
Absolutely spot on. I have battery operated garden tools that are six years old that are useless because the battery has died. Tools are fine but have to be scrapped because battery is not available or too expensive!
The elephant in the room. Spot on.
Love Simon’s detailed bike reviews. More please. 👍……. Edit….oops 3rd person comment 😂
You wish is our command. More to follow inc. XSR900GP, Tiger 1200, V85TT and a new series that'll be worth keeping an eye out for. Plus a handful of group tests and What Bike Next? In fact, we should call is 'Simon Social'.
@@bennettsbikesocial 🤣 brilliant can't wait. 👍
@@bennettsbikesociallooking forward to v85tt,, probably my next bike, August, September
Does it have a low seat option and Sat Nav
Thanks for a great review
J
I thought I’d be interested in the Stelio but I can’t say I’m impressed. For the money there is just so much greatness out there and to be honest the V85 TT looks quite grand in comparison. Retro? Maybe, but isn’t that 9/10 of the Guzzi thing?
Hello Simon! I was hoping you would introduce the new Stelvio. 😉😉 You have a big heart for Guzzi and I love your V85TT videos where you can see how much you love this motorcycle. 😁😁 The new Stelvio is certainly a fantastic motorcycle, but it has also lost some of the typical Moto Guzzi character. It is more accessible and softer and therefore perhaps more suitable for the masses, but no longer has a 100% Guzzi character. You're not the first person to say that the V85TT is more like Guzzi 😉😉 I miss the passion in this test that you had back in Sardinia when the V85TT was presented 😁😁 including footrests on the ground in almost every corner 😂😂 my conclusion: The Stelvio is a great motorcycle but without the typical Guzzi character. If you want the typical Guzzi character, you have to buy the V85TT. Performance isn't everything...😉😉 I love my V85TT precisely because of the character, you also miss in the Stelvio. Greetings from Bavaria Robert
Nice review Simon, feels like you're talking to us rather than at us. I was intrigued by this, thought possibly I'd like MG but your advice means I'll stick with my V2S. I thought that might have come up in your comparison?
So the starting price for this is £14,816, the starting price for a BMW R 1300 GS is £15,990 and the starting price for a Honda Africa Twin Adventure Sports is. £16,299. So is the competition for this bike the Honda, or is it the basic GS which has shaft drive but admittedly handlebars and wheels are probably optional extras?
Spot on
Great review, I like my V85TT. I am now glad that I chose it over the stelvio
If I was interested in an ADV bike I think I’d have to go with the 1300 GS. If it leaned more on road with some off then maybe an AT with DCT.
Hahaaa! I cannot believe, you haven’t ridden the Stelvio pass! I have done something you ain’t done! 😅 nice looking bike! I need. A ride. Great review as, always.
Cheers Ben - yup, never done it. I'm not a massive fan of hairpins tbh.
@@writestuffmedia funny thing, I’m not either! I quite like living too!😂
Its a thing to do, rather than the greatest ride ever. A place to be seen. I enjoyed the Sustenpass and the St Gotthard Pass much more!@writestuffmedia
I'll have a test ride on one but, I think I'll be sticking with my V100 Mandello S
I've never ridden one, but I'm guessing the suspension feels nicer than the Stelvio's. I wish they'd put something really nice on it as an up-spec option (instead of the radar).
Interesting report Simon. When do we get the report on the new V85TT?
His type writer is in overdrive right now... !
Great review, you nailed it when you mentioned why persons prefer a Guzzi in front of other brands. I left Guzzi due to reliability and lack of spare parts. If you need to wait 3,5 months you give up. And this concerned two separate Guzzi’s (Norge and Stelvio).😱
However, the running V-twin is a character as you mentioned. So I’m still in love with the brand ❤️
I had a V85 for 2 years and we loved it. I now have the new GS1300 and had briefly considered the Stelvio. Unfortunately it is no competition for the new GS
You spent thousands of pounds more for the GS and the BMW dealership will buy a new Ferrari on what you spend in servicing 😉
Thanks for the review! I'm just confused by the pre-load at the rear, if you increase it, the bike will lower at the back as the spring is already compressed, not the opposite. You should have had less feeling with the front after that.
No, other way around! If you increase preload the bike will sag less with your weight, ie ride higher
I’d like to see a vs along the lines of all the 1000ish ADV bikes. Africa Twin, Suzuki Strom 1050, tiger 900, the Versis 900, , this, and any others I may have missed. It would really shape my ideas on the size.
I'm that guy that keeps reminding people that the Guzzi engines are longitudinal V twins, not transverse V twins.
Die hard fans will probably head towards the V85tt
Simon, have you test ridden the 2024 85TT which was just revealed? Variable timing and some nice updates. Looks like it carries on the real Guzzi DNA!
Yup, rode it the day after the Stelvio (but it was embargoed). Vid up soon!
Nobody yet has mentioned the cost of the panniers. Will they be available as a package like the V85TT?
Not sure I’d be confident enough in touring in this simply due to the difficulty in finding parts or service if needed
But I’m interested in getting one to try
Isn't the Suzuki V-Strom 1050 AT a closer point of comparision to this, than the Honda Africa Twin?
Wouldn't this bike's size put it up against the GS and Tiger 1200, both of which are shaft drive?
Call me Shallow but with Motorcycles looks are very important, and to me this is a real show stopping beauty. If it rides well it could be 1300 GS rival, however dealer network issues could limit it's sales here in the UK. It's a Motorcycle for "Mods".
I have always wanted a Guzzi and the Stelvio looks sexy.
The only thing i worry about is the short valve service intervals and cost.
I live in Canada and ride 30-35,000km every season (6 months).
The Guzzi valve service intarval is 10K, so I would have to do 3-4 services a season $$$.
My current bike a 2019 Super Tenere has valve service intervals of 40K.
What do you think?
Thanks for the great video!
That's only the first interval and it's 15000 km. Then the interval extends.
.....and if you don't care about radar and want shaft drive you can (in theory!) get a GS1300 for under £16k. Nice review.
Hi Simon. I’m going down to near where you rode next month. Would you be able to post a .GPX file of the route you rode, or at least state where you started from and finisherd at (then I could work out from the paper/online map resources). Many Thanks !!
Found it at last. Thanks for ALL your help……
Mandello & Stelvio should have been 1200, just to put some space between it and the 850 models. I had high hopes for this bike, but I guess it depends where you are trading up from.
I think value for money and Guzziness will make the new V85’s winners (V85 Strada for me, after all, how much off roading are you going to do on one of these)?
Question if it was your money, which one, Africa twin adventure sport 2024 model or the stelvio?
The AT is highly off road focused. The Stelvio isn't. The AT is brutal, the Stelvio isn't.
The 2024 Yamaha Super Tenere ES also has Shaft drive
Exactly what you need from a bike. Other companies need to take note. We don’t need 1300 cc and electronic crap. Give us a nice practical bike with a fair price.
So , in a few words which one would you choose? Stelvio or Africa? Also how do you compare it to the basic Africa (21" wheel) , does Stelvio handle better than this one? What about weight feeling? Are they equally strong engine wise?
I'd go for the Africa Twin Adventure Sport with semi-active (the 2024 model).Stelvio has 'better' - or more road-oriented - handling than the 21in AT. But the stock AT feels lighter and more agile.
AT feels like a much fitter engine - perkier!
Africa Twin with shaft drive 🎉🎉🎉❤
Real men use a clutch lever 💪🏻😉
That's just the problem with older Guzzi, to heavy for long trips.😢
The only thing missed in an excellent review is that the BMW GS wasn’t really mentioned. And it’s a bargain comparatively.
I want a stelvio 800 cc with 85hp and 20-25 kg lighter 😊😊😊
Great bike, super marque...GOOT-ZEE.
Hello,
I think you are a bit unfair with this particular model. it has a transmission shaft which the africa does not have very important to me. the competition is between triumph 900 gt & pro, Ducati multi 900 v2, Suzuki Vstorm 1050 & Honda Africa adv.
I believe once the active suspension from Mandello S is fitted it will be the most complete offering in its class.
It's a very smart move by Guzzi and will get a lot of customers from other brands like me who is considering swapping my BMW F800GS for this model. I'm sure Guzzi fanatics resent it but I prefer the evolution along with the safety this model offers.
I have test ridden the Stelvio in Greece.
Thank you very much for your presentation.
Guzziness aside, I would be worried the quality of some components would not be very resistant to corrosion in the UK climate. I guess as someone who loves Italy, their people,food and clothing, I'm a bit nervous of their engineering standards. Having said that, these bikes seem to appeal to me.
I don't understand why they have a smaller fuel tank on this bigger adventure bike versus the 85TT and that bike it gets better fuel economy.
I like the Stelvio, good point about the PFF version re the additional cost to turn the adaptive cruise control on ?? I was in a dealer the other day and they never once mentioned that being an extra?
Still like the bike, due to test ride one shortly and have sneaky feeling I'm going to love it 😊
I was hoping they would do a V100TT 😢
You should get an Africa Twin, apparently.
That Simon... his reviews are too thorough and make mine look like the amateurs attempts that they are. And he can have that in the third person too!
Mhmm ... food rests mounted to the engine block sounds like a terrible idea in case you drop the bike 🤔 But if I haven't bought the CRF1100 almost two years ago, the Stelvio would be a strong competitor because of the shaft drive and ... well ... I just like Guzzi 😁
Thanks Simon! Which one do you prefer 85tt or the Stelvio? 😊
V85TT :-)
Don't think the wind tunnel is in use any more.
I've always loved Moto Guzzi - although I'm amazed that people still can't pronounce it properly - you can pronounce pizza ? Well, the ZZ is said the same way!!
I'd been thinking about a Stelvio, as I already have. MotoGuzzi 1000S and an Africa Twin 1100. The Honda is a real tough act to beat and an amazing road bike.
I bumped into a guy with a V100 Mandello yesterday and after a year of riding it, said that he really liked it. However he said that his mate had an identical machine that had been at the dealers awaiting repair for 10 months with electronics issues!
Now, if that was a Honda, that would have been sorted, but you're relying on Piaggio UK, who are hopeless.
So I'll enjoy riding my old Guzzi, but I'll take the Honda over the Stelvio.
Or, as the man says, get a proven V85TT and spend the change on fuel and see the world.
I want no “same-same” bike! Piaggio! If I want an elektro beemer or a dct honda I’d have bought them. V85 all the way.
Simon says 21 lL tank, bike's doing 49 mpg and he reckons that means 180 mille range that to me looks like a 220 ish range is it my senility or
his causing problems
My money would be on the africa twin
Put a shaft on the Tiger 900 then you would have brilliant bike ,enjoyed the video
Pretty much what the Tiger 1200 is, since it got the T-plane crank.
@@meteficha moce bike the 1200 bit bit to tall
The Africa Twin is probably a better buy but the shaft drive and the radar are nice. I think the Stelvio is a much better looking bike.
Quite frankly the Stelvio is cheaper bike with a much more modern design and plenty of character that the ATAS. Better engine, better (shaft) transmission, better handling, more road oriented wheels (same size as the Ducati Multistrada while the ATAS is an off-road motorcycle adapted for road use), better wind protection, high quality radar system (front and rear) that works great and proprietary system for installing side panniers directly on the motorbike without the need for side frames. To me the only downside is atm the lackness of electronic suspension at all.
I would imagine that you keep using the clutch because an Adventure Bike with those power and torque figures simply doesn’t nee£ a quick shifter. Nothing that isn’t regularly used on a racetrack does. It’s no more than a current trend, a gimmick.
Moto Guzzi will always be a left field choice. Have they done enough to keep the traditional followers? If it was me I'd go v85. And pocket the difference.
The number you see ( or don't) on the road I think says what buyers want, which might be why Guzzi might be trying to go more mainstream with the Stevio.
Ride safe 👍
The V85TT is quite popular here in Switzerland. People, especially older riders, seem to appreciate its relaxed riding, keeping in mind that European speed restrictions mean that you will almost never use a bike's full performance.
Currently on a 2008 1200 sport. Would happily trade up to the Stelvio
Here we go again with a motorcycle reviewer complaining about "character". I have a KTM SMT 990. It has more character than just about anything else and is huge fun. I also have a Versys 650, which has zero character, but is really good for doing long distance riding when I don't want to struggle with a bike's quirks.
Yeah... I'm not complaining one way or the other - just pointing out the Stelvio dials down the Guzzi character a bit (not entirely) and dials up a certain amount of, I dunno, civility.
In truth, character is as much what you bring to the bike as the bike brings to you. Versys 650 owners who don't have an SMT as a reference point (great bike btw) might say 'hang on, my bike has LOTS of character!' and they'd be right. It's subjective.
When it comes to bikes, character's usually just another word for unreliability
I’ve had a 650 Versys, a true d it all bike. Also had 2 Laverdas for 30 years. All 3 great bikes, one for commuting, one to race, and one to tour. Now it’s a 900 tracer GT, some character nothing like an RGS1000. Just watching the video now…
Where exactly did he complain about character?
All I heard him say was that some diehards might find that it's less reminiscent of an older Guzzi feel and character.
Like you said you find your KTM very characterful, your Kawasaki bland.
What makes you think Moto Guzzi buyers are looking for a bland bike rather than what they've been known for all these years - character?
I didn't hear any complaints. Merely pointed out the new engine has a balance shaft that eliminates the Guzzi rock 'n' roll which you may dislike, or not.
Really, thousands of hours in the wind tunnel?
😂
Oh look a house on two wheels
Who’s going on a big tour on a slim, lightweight 250cc?
This makes me itchy for a reply....😊
Longitudinal, Si, longitudinal.
Stop it! Stop it right now!
@@writestuffmedia the v8 in my Jeep was longitudinal, and inline 4 in my car is transverse. Orientation is defined by the crank, not by the sticky-outy bits. That's your remedial moto journalist education for today.
Longitudinal not transverse.
I keep saying it, i said it with the Mandello, If your gonna pay with the big boys, you need to bring a proper Baseball bat to the game so you can hit with the big boys and not like little league hits. The bike is missing 20 HP to play in this game. Your performance is in the 2005 - 2013 R1200GS territory. How is it you can start with a clean slate and wind up ten years behind the competition? Even a V2 Multistrada runs rings around this bike. What are they thinking about over at Aprilia?
Certainly cheaper than the BMW.
‘Nothing to prove’ (channel) said he was told Guzzi would bring out the Ohlins 2.0 semi-active version next year, so all that ‘vagueness’ could be dialled out. But the Southampton Guzzi dealer Deardens (who have them) say ‘No way is a s/a version coming out’. AGAIN, I think Guzzi have missed a trick. The radar is as you say rubbish. The paint is Matt (subjective, but I hate Matt paint). The Mandello S needs Gold wheels (but they won’t let you have them). Guzzi - what are you playing at. Not having s/a on this bike is a CRIME…..Also their side-box luggage system is very clever in that you just take off the rear seat, put the boxes on and put the seat back on. BUT the boxes themselves have these “struts” which stick out, and will snap off in the 1st hotel door. Then you’re f**ked. Guzzi …… ARGHHHHH
Grown man, years of motorcycle world experience and still fails to pronounce the name correctly.
Gutzi? I can't bring myself to do it. It's like saying Ducahhhhti or Kawasahhhki. In my ears it sounds pretentious, like trying too hard. I'm a northerner at heart.
Plus I'm almost as bad as pronunciation as a I am at maths. I'll leave Moto Gutzi to those born south of Watford Gap 😁
I get it but… how do you pronounce “pizza” then?
04-07 1200GS 226KG easily reduced to 215kg so keep your stupidly heavy new bikes. And stop bullshitting about crap new bikes which are clearly too heavy, too complicated and too expensive. Give me an exception if you disagree?
Unfortunately the guy doing the review doesn’t come off well at all. He doesn’t come a cross as he understands or has knowledge of the bike like Adam Child does. With a lot of erms, I think and what I have I forgot’s. Unfortunately I had to switch it off.
Yeah, but Adam Child is a KNOBHEAD
That bike is way behind bmw