I still remember the midnight line ups of 2007-08 on Disney Channel The Replacements Kim Possible The Emperors New School American Dragon: Jake Long Buzz Light-year A Star Command Timon & Pumbaa The Proud Family Brandy & Mr. Whiskers Dave The Barbarian The Little Mermaid Series Back to Back episodes of Lilo & Stitch: The Series
Guess what? I watch Wizards of Waverly Place every weekend along with iCarly and Liberty's Kids, 2 other non-Disney Channel shows I like. Wizards is the show I only watch on Sundays, though, unlike Liberty's Kids and iCarly.
Mine, too. Guess which character played which instrument in high school and which character goes to which school right now? Out of 3: 1. flute, University of Pittsburgh 2. trumpet, Mercyhurst University 3. French horn, IUP
doknot1999 i can't stand the laugh tracks that they put on modern sitcoms. i liked it better with the ACTUAL live audience laughing and cheering in old sitcoms. you feel me?
I hated Jonas and Sonny with a Chance. Disney does suck. I didn't realize it was awful till 2012..... Round the time they were showing previews for Gravity Falls. And Dog with a Blog. These shows absolutely suck! And Zendaya is returning to TV Screens later this year in "Super Awesome Katy" My god! Get it together Disney!!!! If Walt Disney was still alive, he would be ashamed of every show expect Phineas and Ferb and Gravity Falls. 😒
@XxSuperJailxXHU I know,I miss Life with Derek,That's So Raven,Lizzie McGuire,Kim Possible and so many other good shows.Now Disney Channel's stuck with A.N.T.Farm and Shake It Up and other horrible shows.
I watch both cartoons and adult shows.I know nowadays CN,Nick,and Disney those channels are for kids and teenagers,but back in the day it was not.I will still watch these channels as long as there are some good shows on.
The strange thing about the Jonas Brothers is that they managed to come back to the industry years later and their new music actually sounds a lot better than what they were doing with in disney and I never even cared about the Jonas Brothers when I was a kid and most of their songs ever really aged well
The two shows that use be on Disney Channel were "Boy Meets World, and "SO Weird". Those were my favorite shows back then. You're absolutely right. Disney channel is not the same as it use to be fourteen years ago.
My top Disney Channel shows from best to suckiest. This doesn't include the cartoons. 1.Girl Meets World (I love that show so much) 2.Good Luck Charlie (It's okay but not great) 3.Dog With A Blog (I GUESS it's okay but not something I would like to take my time to watch) 4.Jessie (I don't like it at all, the plot is not original. Not the worst I have seen though) 5.Liv And Maddie (I don't know what they were thinking, the plot is not original, like I said with Jessie. I would not like it if someone made me watch this) 6.A.N.T. Farm (the first season was fine, but it just went downhill from then. It's a boring show imo) 7.Shake It Up (BORING SHOW like I said with A.N.T. Farm and...that is all I have to say about it) 8.Austin And Ally (Words can not describe how much I hate this show. For one the plot is so unoriginal and seems to repeat itself over and over again. Second of all, they make the corniest jokes ever. Third of all, it is horrible) 9. I Didn't Do It (THIS SHOW IS SO BORING, I know I keep saying this but I am really not sure what else to say! I couldn't even watch a 2 minute clip of it, it was that boring. Thank god Girl Meets World saved my hope for Disney becoming a good channel again because this show about did it for me).
i cried alot on the lat episode of the sweet life on deck i miss the old days i wish we could seand a thousand letters to disney to tell them we want them back
I had a Retro Disney block over the summer, in which I watch all the great shows that Doknot1999 recommended and none that he didn't recommend. In the winter, I'll watch old Cartoon Network classics that he recommended on Boomerang, Cartoon Planet, or even on UA-cam.
I few months ago I found an unopened CD of Lizzie McGuire I got from a Happy Meal way back in the day. Still have no idea what to do with it or what's on the disc
i'm a 90s Disney channel kid off the wall vault Disney 2 movies a night movie surfers that take you inside the movie I want that stuff back is that too much to ask
I don't watch Disney Channel, but I only watched it for DuckTales, Disney animated theatrical shorts (from the 1920s-1940s), and a few other Disney Afternoon shows. The ones that came on in the 2000s-2010s suck.
In 2010 there were good shows like Arron Stone, I'm in the band, Zeke and Luther that were cancelled and good shows like Good luck Charlie , Phineas and Ferb, Kick Buttowski are still going and don't get me wrong shake it up are gravity falls are good. But some of the new shows like A.N.T Farm, Austin and Ally and My babysitters a vampire are just plain weird.
You know, in Fish Hooks, there's a quote in the episode 'Send Me an Angel Fish' that pissed me off. "Since video games rot your brain, watch cartoons or something." As in watch shows like Adventure Time over play good games like Zelda? (Sure, a game like Call of Duty CAN rot your brain)
it's sad Disney has fallen this low: Old Disney: showed morals in life & around the world like Aladdin in Arabia, Hunchback of Notre Dame in France, Mulan in China, Pocahontas describing American History New Disney (dramatization): Teenage Girl: OMG!!! HANNAH MONTANA BROKE UP WITH NICK JONAS!!!
actually i have to disagree with the hannah montana show i liked it and lots of other people did too i think the worst show is shake it up and ant farm and whats up with girl meets world, or i didnt do it, dog with a blog!! ug the list goes on!!!!
@doknot1999 hey um just wondering by any chance do you watch gravity falls? And if you do is it good or bad? Btw I loved the old Disney too but the new one like really the only thing that I watch on there is gravity falls and good luck Charlie but that's about it
Doknot1999 there is a show called 7th heaven which aired on the WB. It's rerunning on gmc now. I watched it and I thought, "omg! this is way better than good luck charlie!"
I remember lizzie McGuire when I was a little kid Hilary Duff does her acting well especially when she was little playing Wendy from Casper meets Wendy
I agree with you @doknot1999 the real Disney channel died in the year 2006 and even though Shake it up is gone that show is going to be remembered as the worst Disney channel show I wish they still aired even Stevens Lizzie mcguire that's so raven proud family and etc
When you were talking about A.N.T Farm and Shake it up earlier in the video and it was about sorry ass Shake it Up, Boyyyyyy, You got me lmfao and rofl
+SNES Bro Not hating on it, just don't like it there is a difference also, how can be an anime when it doesn't look anything like Naruto, One Piece, Poke'mon etc?
They need to make a channel with classic disney shows and they should do a reunion for them as a special. P.S suite life series in my opinion was the last good show on Disney channel and I teared up when they graduated and showed the slideshow
+Doknot1999 you should make podcasts for your rants they are good and funny the first time I watched your rant video is one of the other Disney rants I nearly cried from laughing my ass off keep it up man your really smart and funny.
I actually like Good Luck Charlie, it's the only thing i watch in disney. In my opinion GLC is probably one of the most decent shows on Disney, it shows life with family, etc. And Gabe is hilarious he's the trouble maker, PJ is the guy who seems like he has no brain, Charlie is just to cute, Bridgit the smart responsible one, Bob the crazy and scared of his wife XD, and Amy the one who wants to be famous. I have to give the show a A-
It's just sad that Disney went from producing awesome animated shows/movies with awesome villains to forcing all this awful teenybopper crap down our throats. Bring back the Ursula, Jafar and Scar days i say!
@Vanhallen5150 I know! Why don't they put the classics back on? I know they have "Have A Laugh" but they should put on full length shows. I would so watch it!
I prefer Disney's OG Friends (Mickey, Minnie, Donald,Daisy, Goofy, Pluto)because Mickey And his friends are better than the Phineas and Ferb Gang they use them for the kiddie shows (take Roadster Racers for example) and Slapstick violence (the new Mickey Mouse shorts), I Just don't Know Why Disney Have to Throw Shade at Mickey and His Friends Maybe they Don't care about them and Just focus On Phineas, Ferb and Their Friends I just don't know why @Doknot1999
Suite Life of Zack and Cody and That's So Raven are on ABC Kids, not family, including hannah montana, which are the only 3 shows left on ABC kids, ABC kids lasted 5 times longer with way more good shows and good cartoons back then. I agree with you with everything in this video.
The Jonas brothers almost KILLED ME. I have a Wierd condition were I have a heart attack when I here dying cats giving birth. I'm ok now, my family healed me when they helped me listen to actual music, not the freakin Jonas brothers.
I used to watch That's so Raven all the time along with the "Suite Life of Zack and Cody." I loved those shows to death. But then Disney became over-saturated with these shitty shows about teens having their periods are something.
I've moved on to shows like The Big Bang Theory, Two and a Half Men, Gossip Girl, The Vampire Diaries, Hart of Dixie, etc. Wizards ending was a sign that Disney was going downhill, in my opinion.
Holy crap I forgot about most of the shows. Most notably, Brandy and Mr. Whiskers and Life with Derek. i liked them. I also do miss shows such as Thats So Raven, emperors new groove, phil of the future, and especially Even Stevens! Even Stevens was my fav out of all of them! I also miss toondisney and Lloyd in Space, Weekenders, Teachers Pet, and more. I also miss those cheesy Disney Original Movies. And whatever happened to fucking Mickey Mouse? He isnt even used at all except in House of Mouse
I still remember the midnight line ups of 2007-08 on Disney Channel
The Replacements
Kim Possible
The Emperors New School
American Dragon: Jake Long
Buzz Light-year A Star Command
Timon & Pumbaa
The Proud Family
Brandy & Mr. Whiskers
Dave The Barbarian
The Little Mermaid Series
Back to Back episodes of Lilo & Stitch: The Series
Wyolkens plays Yess there is a god
i miss kim possible so much
Awesome show, am I right? Of course!
Márk Németh i miss the old disney channel so much
It's safe to say that the year 2008 was the last good year of Disney channel live action shows.
R2Armando i think 2011 because wizards and suite life on deck ended
Guess what? I watch Wizards of Waverly Place every weekend along with iCarly and Liberty's Kids, 2 other non-Disney Channel shows I like. Wizards is the show I only watch on Sundays, though, unlike Liberty's Kids and iCarly.
2009 the rise of Disney XD and downfall of Disney Channel & Nickelodeon
Brandy And Mr. Whiskers was one of my most favorite Show of all time and I still missed them ever since.:(
Brandy Harrington was as hot as Kaley Cuoco 😛💓❤️🧡💛💚💙💜😍
Mine, too. Guess which character played which instrument in high school and which character goes to which school right now? Out of 3:
1. flute, University of Pittsburgh 2. trumpet, Mercyhurst University 3. French horn, IUP
doknot1999 i can't stand the laugh tracks that they put on modern sitcoms. i liked it better with the ACTUAL live audience laughing and cheering in old sitcoms. you feel me?
+Gera WallStar I feel you.
Yessssss
If Undertaker Were In Brandy & Mr. Whiskers What Animal Would Undertaker Be IMO He'd Be A Cross Between An Bear And An Rabbit
I hated Jonas and Sonny with a Chance. Disney does suck. I didn't realize it was awful till 2012..... Round the time they were showing previews for Gravity Falls. And Dog with a Blog. These shows absolutely suck! And Zendaya is returning to TV Screens later this year in "Super Awesome Katy" My god! Get it together Disney!!!! If Walt Disney was still alive, he would be ashamed of every show expect Phineas and Ferb and Gravity Falls. 😒
Gravity falls and Phineas and Ferb are the only shows I like on Disney! I MISS TOON DISNEY!
that moron with the red hair ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ agree
Hi +Momo chan
And wander over yonder is good
Kevin Silver, Jr it's ok in my opinion
Back in here in 2016 and everything you said is STILL TRUE
Aw boy all those old shows brings back nostalgia and regret knowing that none of their shows now can even compare.
I love your rants. I especially laughed so hard at your imitation of the jonas brothers lol
@XxSuperJailxXHU I know,I miss Life with Derek,That's So Raven,Lizzie McGuire,Kim Possible and so many other good shows.Now Disney Channel's stuck with A.N.T.Farm and Shake It Up and other horrible shows.
The thing i like about Disney XD is that sometimes it shows reruns of The Suit Life of Zach and Cody. I loved that show!
I know.That's why I corrected it using an annotation in the video.You should be able to see it.
I watch both cartoons and adult shows.I know nowadays CN,Nick,and Disney those channels are for kids and teenagers,but back in the day it was not.I will still watch these channels as long as there are some good shows on.
The strange thing about the Jonas Brothers is that they managed to come back to the industry years later and their new music actually sounds a lot better than what they were doing with in disney and I never even cared about the Jonas Brothers when I was a kid and most of their songs ever really aged well
Lol i was laughing so hard when you were imitating the jonas brothers singing.XD
The two shows that use be on Disney Channel were "Boy Meets World, and "SO Weird". Those were my favorite shows back then. You're absolutely right. Disney channel is not the same as it use to be fourteen years ago.
how did London graduate
My top Disney Channel shows from best to suckiest. This doesn't include the cartoons.
1.Girl Meets World (I love that show so much)
2.Good Luck Charlie (It's okay but not great)
3.Dog With A Blog (I GUESS it's okay but not something I would like to take my time to watch)
4.Jessie (I don't like it at all, the plot is not original. Not the worst I have seen though)
5.Liv And Maddie (I don't know what they were thinking, the plot is not original, like I said with Jessie. I would not like it if someone made me watch this)
6.A.N.T. Farm (the first season was fine, but it just went downhill from then. It's a boring show imo)
7.Shake It Up (BORING SHOW like I said with A.N.T. Farm and...that is all I have to say about it)
8.Austin And Ally (Words can not describe how much I hate this show. For one the plot is so unoriginal and seems to repeat itself over and over again. Second of all, they make the corniest jokes ever. Third of all, it is horrible)
9. I Didn't Do It (THIS SHOW IS SO BORING, I know I keep saying this but I am really not sure what else to say! I couldn't even watch a 2 minute clip of it, it was that boring. Thank god Girl Meets World saved my hope for Disney becoming a good channel again because this show about did it for me).
Girl Meets World Is Bland To Me It's Like A Ripoff Of Boy Meets World And It's Not Even Funny
i cried alot on the lat episode of the sweet life on deck i miss the old days i wish we could seand a thousand letters to disney to tell them we want them back
I had a Retro Disney block over the summer, in which I watch all the great shows that Doknot1999 recommended and none that he didn't recommend. In the winter, I'll watch old Cartoon Network classics that he recommended on Boomerang, Cartoon Planet, or even on UA-cam.
I few months ago I found an unopened CD of Lizzie McGuire I got from a Happy Meal way back in the day. Still have no idea what to do with it or what's on the disc
this was disney back then
FUNNY ASS SHOWS
i'm a 90s Disney channel kid off the wall vault Disney 2 movies a night movie surfers that take you inside the movie I want that stuff back is that too much to ask
What do you think of the halloweentown movie series
Disney Channel should bring back Dave The Barbarian.
Dave The Barbarian Had An Alternate Intro Which Had Used The Rollin Theme That Undertaker Had Used
I don't watch Disney Channel, but I only watched it for DuckTales, Disney animated theatrical shorts (from the 1920s-1940s), and a few other Disney Afternoon shows. The ones that came on in the 2000s-2010s suck.
question how would you feel if PHINEAS AND FERB ended next year say with a theaterical feature?
In 2010 there were good shows like Arron Stone, I'm in the band, Zeke and Luther that were cancelled and good shows like Good luck Charlie , Phineas and Ferb, Kick Buttowski are still going and don't get me wrong shake it up are gravity falls are good. But some of the new shows like A.N.T Farm, Austin and Ally and My babysitters a vampire are just plain weird.
I Miss The Old Disney Logo
Me Too
I understand why Disney Channel was moved from premium cable (it was once
premium) to basic...who the ding-dong would actually pay for this stuff?
Hahaha! Disney sucks now, they got rid of some good shows a few years back and added all these other shitty shows :(
You know, in Fish Hooks, there's a quote in the episode 'Send Me an Angel Fish' that pissed me off. "Since video games rot your brain, watch cartoons or something." As in watch shows like Adventure Time over play good games like Zelda? (Sure, a game like Call of Duty CAN rot your brain)
Full The Future, That's So Raven and Life with Derek was my shit! Loved them so much. Takes me back.
* Phil of the future *
@ my bad😞
Doknot1999, I read that Shake it Up will be in its second season. I also read that there will be new shows on that channel as well.
The shows you mention that you liked, I'm glad that I'm not the only one who like those shows.
Yes,I know.I meant to say series finale.
I so miss the Lilo and Stitch series. I used to get up at 5 am every morning to watch it
it's sad Disney has fallen this low:
Old Disney: showed morals in life & around the world like Aladdin in Arabia, Hunchback of Notre Dame in France, Mulan in China, Pocahontas describing American History
New Disney (dramatization): Teenage Girl: OMG!!! HANNAH MONTANA BROKE UP WITH NICK JONAS!!!
actually i have to disagree with the hannah montana show i liked it and lots of other people did too i think the worst show is shake it up and ant farm and whats up with girl meets world, or i didnt do it, dog with a blog!! ug the list goes on!!!!
why did cory in the house get canceled?
Girl meets world is actually GOOD,but all that you said was true
thank you yeah i can agree with girl meets since its a spin off a show i love so very much lol Isaac Alinda
Alyssa Woodward I like girl meets world even though its not as good as boy meets world but I agree with every thing else you said
@doknot1999 hey um just wondering by any chance do you watch gravity falls? And if you do is it good or bad? Btw I loved the old Disney too but the new one like really the only thing that I watch on there is gravity falls and good luck Charlie but that's about it
They still show That's So Raven, Lizzie McGuire and Kim Possible on Freeform at 12 Midnights.
Cool, thanks for letting me know.
+Doknot1999 The new block on freeform at midnight's is called that's so throwback.
9:07
My reaction when someone said Velma is better than Hazbin Hotel, plus insulting the creator of Hazbin Hotel.
Who remembers " So Weird "
i do!!!! do you remember the jersey
Yep I love that show
what did you think about the phineas and ferb movie?
When i was little boy in the begining of the 90s i wanted a free Disney chanel on a TV. Now when i've got it, i don't need it!
thanks to Hannah Montana, there are hardly cartoons on disney channel
3:33
Walt Disney never had a grave, he was cremated.
i know im just reinforming is it ok if i sub?
Doknot1999 there is a show called 7th heaven which aired on the WB. It's rerunning on gmc now. I watched it and I thought, "omg! this is way better than good luck charlie!"
I remember lizzie McGuire when I was a little kid Hilary Duff does her acting well especially when she was little playing Wendy from Casper meets Wendy
do you have an opinion on DISNEY JUNIOR?
I agree with you @doknot1999 the real Disney channel died in the year 2006 and even though Shake it up is gone that show is going to be remembered as the worst Disney channel show I wish they still aired even Stevens Lizzie mcguire that's so raven proud family and etc
At 9:04 at the bottom there are names... Is that Satan?
When you were talking about A.N.T Farm and Shake it up earlier in the video and it was about sorry ass Shake it Up, Boyyyyyy, You got me lmfao and rofl
Phineas and Ferb Is the best show on the channel from It's beginning and until It's eventual end.
And Fish Hooks Is BLAAARRRRGGGGG
You know whats wierd fish hooks lasted for 3 or 4 seasons and was aired to 2015 or later
I actually do like Shake It Up, Wizards of Waverly Place, and Good Luck Charlie. They're the only good shows but now they're all done...
The newest season of A.N.T. farm isn't half bad. I think the only reason I like it is because of the high tech school.
Phil from the Future is back during 4:00 A.M on Disney Channel
Don't hate Cory in the house.
It is like the most famous anime.
+SNES Bro Not hating on it, just don't like it there is a difference also, how can be an anime when it doesn't look anything like Naruto, One Piece, Poke'mon etc?
It is anime
It lives beside what you call anime
My fave anime is Jimmy Neutron Boy Genius
It's a joke people are making.
Doknot1999 lol Doknot relax it's just some meme that's used as a joke 😂
Doknot1999 Blame Filthy Frank and his fanboys for the Cory in the House is the best anime ever meme.
They need to make a channel with classic disney shows and they should do a reunion for them as a special. P.S suite life series in my opinion was the last good show on Disney channel and I teared up when they graduated and showed the slideshow
That "Non-Disney Related" thing includes smoking weed and posting about it on Twitter.
@mqgTWO96 yeah,I meant ABC Kids.
you have just earned a new subscriber
you sir are awesome
Hey doknot1999 what do you think about of The Proud Family reboot?
Which is your favorite character in Phineas and Ferb, DokNot1999?
i love the all the 1999-2004 love the old show my fav was thats so raven kim possble and proud family miss the old family
At least Walt Disney have a granddaughter named Melissa.
I thought your version of the jonas brothers was music to my ears!
I Love Your Video's! You Deserve Some More Subs!
OH CRAP! I Forgot To Sub!
I have a crush on animated LIZZIE also what's your opinion on MOVIE SURFERS?
What do you think of Phineas & Ferb: Across the 2nd Dimension?
+Doknot1999 you should make podcasts for your rants they are good and funny the first time I watched your rant video is one of the other Disney rants I nearly cried from laughing my ass off keep it up man your really smart and funny.
I miss old disney shows
I actually like Good Luck Charlie, it's the only thing i watch in disney. In my opinion GLC is probably one of the most decent shows on Disney, it shows life with family, etc. And Gabe is hilarious he's the trouble maker, PJ is the guy who seems like he has no brain, Charlie is just to cute, Bridgit the smart responsible one, Bob the crazy and scared of his wife XD, and Amy the one who wants to be famous. I have to give the show a A-
I noticed that they didn't do their little hand shake anymore in the spin off
It was my first time ranting.I was nervous.
It's just sad that Disney went from producing awesome animated shows/movies with awesome villains to forcing all this awful teenybopper crap down our throats. Bring back the Ursula, Jafar and Scar days i say!
Two of those villians are dead.... and they're movies genius
Jade Allbrook Jafar was actually killed off in the poorly-animated sequel
Whaaaaaaa? That's not fair! I loved Jafar!
@Frogger2500 Thanks!
Thw official ending of "old disney" was when suite life on deck ended
@Vanhallen5150 I know! Why don't they put the classics back on? I know they have "Have A Laugh" but they should put on full length shows. I would so watch it!
Phineas,Ferb,Dr.Doofenshmirtz,Perry,Baljeet,Isabella.
I prefer Disney's OG Friends (Mickey, Minnie, Donald,Daisy, Goofy, Pluto)because Mickey And his friends are better than the Phineas and Ferb Gang they use them for the kiddie shows (take Roadster Racers for example) and Slapstick violence (the new Mickey Mouse shorts), I Just don't Know Why Disney Have to Throw Shade at Mickey and His Friends Maybe they Don't care about them and Just focus On Phineas, Ferb and Their Friends I just don't know why
@Doknot1999
Suite Life of Zack and Cody and That's So Raven are on ABC Kids, not family, including hannah montana, which are the only 3 shows left on ABC kids, ABC kids lasted 5 times longer with way more good shows and good cartoons back then. I agree with you with everything in this video.
Finn,Jake,PB,LSP,Marceline,Beemo,Ice King.
the jonas brother's had me cracking up
The Jonas brothers almost KILLED ME. I have a Wierd condition were I have a heart attack when I here dying cats giving birth. I'm ok now, my family healed me when they helped me listen to actual music, not the freakin Jonas brothers.
i was like lol when u said sorry butt shows like ant farm
Cody was lucky to have Bailey.
I was born in the late 90s, and I never really got into Disney Channel :T I loved House of Mouse tho ^^
I miss these shows, especially with toon Disney and abc kids
I used to watch That's so Raven all the time along with the "Suite Life of Zack and Cody." I loved those shows to death. But then Disney became over-saturated with these shitty shows about teens having their periods are something.
I've moved on to shows like The Big Bang Theory, Two and a Half Men, Gossip Girl, The Vampire Diaries, Hart of Dixie, etc. Wizards ending was a sign that Disney was going downhill, in my opinion.
@1:48 That Would Happen To Undertaker At The End Of His Career
Do you Pefer brandy and mr whiskers or the proud family
tell me this do you think KIM POSSIBLE and PHINEAS AND FERB could co exsist harmonessly
doknot1999 how you feel about the channel now?
+Chris J It still sucks.
yea it does
I don't watch it anymore. I just watch disney xd. I used to watch it in the 2000s
+Doknot1999 But it has Grav. Falls and Phineas and Ferb!
gravity falls and phineas and ferb got canceled
@XxSuperJailxXHU You are absolutely right.
Holy crap I forgot about most of the shows. Most notably, Brandy and Mr. Whiskers and Life with Derek. i liked them. I also do miss shows such as Thats So Raven, emperors new groove, phil of the future, and especially Even Stevens! Even Stevens was my fav out of all of them! I also miss toondisney and Lloyd in Space, Weekenders, Teachers Pet, and more. I also miss those cheesy Disney Original Movies. And whatever happened to fucking Mickey Mouse? He isnt even used at all except in House of Mouse
can you do a playhouse disney rants well now its diseny junior